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Irby White joins Jesse Sarwar to discuss Liverpool's transfer business and how those new players will help shape Slot's new Liverpool.
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Introduction and International Break
00:00:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome to the Daily Liverpool podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. We're in the middle of the international break, so no Premier League action to preview this weekend.
00:01:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
But there's still been plenty of things going on, plenty of talking points for us to go over, all in the company of the coach himself, Erby White.
Transfer Window Reflections
00:01:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
How's it going, Erby?
00:01:16
Irby White
going well. I mean, nothing to complain about. Nine points from nine. Alexander Isak to end the window. On a personal note, just wrapped preseason with my team, so things things couldn't be better.
00:01:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
All looking up. um Have you recovered from the drama of the transfer window? What was your of your overall take of Liverpool's transfer window?
00:01:36
Irby White
I'm sure we'll get to the Mark Gehie thing, but there was maybe just a bit of a spoiled feeling about my when I woke up Monday morning that we're getting both Isak and Gehie, and then when We, the news came out that we weren't getting Gayhi. It was just kind of, you know, I was like a four-year-old not getting what I want, everything I wanted. But then I realized, you know what?
00:01:58
Irby White
We're getting, let's hopefully the best striker in the Premier League. Let's prove that he's better than Holland when he's with better players. So yeah, can't be too, can't ask for too much. So I'm, I'm thrilled.
00:02:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, it' but it has been a massive, massive talking point. um Missing out on Gahey, it it was, i think, it was a bit of a gut punch because it it was so close.
00:02:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, the the deal had been signed, the deal had been agreed by the two clubs, medical had been done, paperwork had been submitted, everything was done and it was just a last second pullout from Palace. But you think that we've got the numbers in terms... I mean, that was my concern.
00:02:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
I thought that Isak was the priority purely because of numbers. I'm not saying that we didn't we didn't need Gahey maybe in terms of quality. you know He would be an upgrade on, let's say, you know maybe Joe Gomez and maybe Leone.
00:03:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
But we we do have four centre-backs. whereas i thought I think that we were a bit light up front.
Comparing Transfer Tactics: Europe vs. US
00:03:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so I think it was probably more important that Isak came in.
00:03:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I wanted to ask you evie something, you know, you're obviously stateside. In terms of the the way that players like Isak, Jaan Wisser at Brentford have kind of agitated for them for their move, what is the the view of you know football fans in the United States. Is there like a parallel in American sports where where players do this to try and get out of their contracts?
00:03:42
Irby White
ah you see this in the NFL in the the and the NBA kind of all the time, you know, players will James Harden, Jimmy Butler in the NBA, for example, they, I mean, how many times have they moved teams after demanding to go to one team and then six, to six months later to a year, they're ready to get out.
00:03:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Really?
00:04:00
Irby White
So, You see it quite often, particularly in the NBA. you know Micah Parsons of the Dallas Cowboys just got his move to the Green Bay Packers after not getting a contract that he wanted with the Cowboys that he felt he was deserving of.
00:04:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right.
00:04:14
Irby White
So it's definitely something you see here in the United States. And I think we're just so used to it that it's it's not abnormal.
00:04:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
right
00:04:24
Irby White
So as a football fan, a European football fan, when I see it happening with players like Isak and then Kane to an extent, which he only break briefly did it a couple of years ago.
00:04:35
Irby White
it's not It's nothing new to me. um I don't know if it's the same to you because i mean those are just three instances I mentioned there. so But yeah, i mean it seems to happen with a an American superstar a handful of times each year.
00:04:52
Irby White
It doesn't matter which sport it's in.
00:04:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think the British press, I think we think we get really up on our high horses, you know as if this is like really you know this is so unusual. really, if you take a if you take a step back this goes on in football quite a lot where you know players are not happy for whatever reason, whether it's they want a new contract or whether they genuinely, for career reasons, they want to go to a bigger and better club and and yeah push their career forward.
00:05:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But I do think that there is a an element of of, particularly, I think, in in in Britain, a bit pompous when it comes to the way that players...
00:05:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
want to maybe move to another club because none of that ah none of that opinion, there's no consistency in the way that, let's say, clubs treat players. yeah Clubs will discard players at the drop of a hat.
00:05:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know that there's i don't know if there's a there's a phrase in American sports, but in in in England, they call it the bomb squad, which is basically players who are just discarded and they they make them train
00:06:05
Irby White
Mm-hmm.
00:06:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
away from the first team with the with the reserves or with the youth team, which can be, for a senior player, it can be quite humiliating. But that this there doesn't seem to be any kind of pushback when it's the other way around. So it's an interesting one. I thought it was quite interesting to see what the American perspective
Analyzing Liverpool's Transfers
00:06:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
would be on that. But let's let's take a look at this a quick look at the players that came in, the players that left, because it does...
00:06:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
It does bring into perspective a bit the number of players that have come in and left. This is quite a big overhaul of players. i mean the players and this This is just the main players.
00:06:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jeremy Frimpong, Milos Kerkhez, Marma Dashvili in goal, Armin Pesci in goal. We've got Giovanni Leone coming as a young centre-back.
00:07:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Florian Wurtz. Ekertike and then obviously right at the end Alexander Izak and then the players that left some big names I mean Luis Diaz Nunes went to Al-Hilal Harvey Elliott last day deal out to Aston Villa obviously Trent Alexander-Arnold Queen Kelleher and Kostas Simikas went out on loan to Roma and You know, a couple of players that didn't get much first-team action, Ben Doak to Bournemouth, still got £25 million pounds for him.
00:07:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And Tyler Morton, which i I think a lot of people were disappointed with, um left, I think, was it to Marseille? um And obviously, you know, we lost yeah ah Diego Jota as well in those circumstances. But, you know, it's it's a lot of players in and out, isn't it?
00:08:03
Irby White
Yeah, and one thing I actually just noticed internally last night when I just saw on Instagram a picture of all the signings that come in, how different obviously the team looks with the incomings and outgoings.
00:08:15
Irby White
For Allison, though, just the goalkeeping department, how much that has changed because he lost his deputy in Kelleher, coming in as Marmadashvili and Woodman, and what's the young kid's name?
00:08:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. That's right.
00:08:25
Irby White
um
00:08:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
question
00:08:27
Irby White
the Pesci, yeah.
00:08:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:28
Irby White
And then Tafarel left. So it's just...
00:08:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
the The goalkeeper coach. Yeah.
00:08:32
Irby White
I mean, just for him, it's almost like he's at a new club, you know, and he's off doing his goalkeeper training.
00:08:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:37
Irby White
So that's going to be an adjustment for him. I hope it's something we don't have to talk about. um But just, yeah, the overhaul of the squad. I mean, we still have the key players like Allison, like Van Dyke, Salah signing new contracts, just kind of the core sticking around. But just it seems like the players that were on their way out,
00:08:59
Irby White
We've replaced them brilliantly. it just I wonder when we get to you know that that December, Christmas time, January period, are some of these players ready?
Are New Signings Ready for the Premier League?
00:09:09
Irby White
Is Karekez is here? Is Frimpong ready? is Is Verts ready for that intense game in two days, game in three days, game in four days, game in two days again with the with the FA Cup if we're still progressing in the Carabao Cup?
00:09:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. yeah
00:09:21
Irby White
and just that hectic schedule, players of the past are so used to it. I think that's what we're going to be looking at when we get to that period of the season, more of just how do they adapt or are they ready for the physical challenge that's coming? Because we've we know we've lost players that were just so capable of getting us through that, as we saw last year, you know getting to a cup final.
00:09:46
Irby White
leading the league all the way through. So I'm just hopeful that these new guys are ready for the challenge of what's ahead.
00:09:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah I think that's a really really good point the the ah fixture pile up the fixture intensity you know the likes of fruit yeah yeah
00:10:03
Irby White
Well, we just saw Verts going off Arsenal with a cramp in like the 82nd, 83rd minute. And it's like, mate, just wait till you play.
00:10:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
see yeah
00:10:12
Irby White
i don't know the pictures off the top of my head, but it's, you know, say we played.
00:10:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah December is just brutal, isn't it?
00:10:16
Irby White
I mean, yeah you could very you could have Bournemouth away, City at home, f FA Cup, and then you have a game on on the first.
00:10:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:23
Irby White
And it's just like we're going to need you to play 80 minutes in all four of those games.
00:10:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Well, apparently...
00:10:28
Irby White
So strap in.
00:10:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, apparently Arnie Slott said that but when he was asked about, you know, is Vietz okay? You know, what was the injury? And he said it was cramped, but apparently Vietz had said him,
00:10:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
he felt cramp in parts of his body he didn't know existed. And like like you said, I think ah most of us were saying, listen, mate, this is three games in, this is nothing yet.
00:10:50
Irby White
Yeah.
00:10:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I think you make a really good point. I think it is going to be interesting and and really, I mean, crucial for our chances to see the likes of Frimpong, you know, Vietz, the players, you know, Eketike, the guys who have come from other leagues overseas to see how they adapt to the, just the sheer intensity of the Premier League. And you mentioned the fixtures.
00:11:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Again, I think we've got the same thing that we've got, that we had last season where I think we've got on a Wednesday, we've got Real Madrid. And then on the weekend, we've got Manchester City.
00:11:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah, you know, so, you know, that that kind of thing is, um you know, is going to be really crucial, which does show how much, you know,
00:11:26
Irby White
Right.
00:11:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
you do need a squad. this This is no longer 13, 14, 15, 16 man
Benefits of the International Break
00:11:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
game now. You know you do need a big squad.
00:11:45
Irby White
right
00:11:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
um and as we as we you know We are in the middle of this international break. I certainly hear in England, Liverpool fans find it really, really annoying international breaks. We just can't stand them.
00:12:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Especially the first one in the season, which is like, you've just got yourself up for the premier League. three games in then they're off for two weeks again as well. But um I'm just wondering if this break could actually be of benefit to some of our players.
00:12:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Certainly, obviously, the ones who are out injured, the likes of Frimpong, Canate, obviously gives them a bit of time to to get over those injuries. But we have seen the likes of Vietz, as we've mentioned, maybe struggling with the the pace of the Premier League,
00:12:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
um You know, players like McAllister, who didn't have much of a pre-season, and they do look like they're a yard short. And even players like Andy Robertson, who's obviously very, very familiar with the Premier League.
00:12:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
He hasn't got any many minutes under his belt this season. So maybe these guys, McAllister, Robertson, going away you know to their international teams is going to be a benefit to get those minutes up.
00:13:02
Irby White
Yeah, two of those players you mentioned and another two that you didn't. I think the big one is Isak. I mean, this is a mini preseason training camp for him with with Sweden.
00:13:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
00:13:11
Irby White
He's got two matches that I'm hopeful that I'll be able to get to watch here. I heard the manager say he's not going to start at least the first one. um But I mean, that's a mini preseason for him. Hopefully he can just...
00:13:23
Irby White
build up a little bit so he can be available. I mean, when we get back, we've got Burnley and Atletico Madrid. um And you got to think that we're going to need him for those matches. And then the other one is, is Leone.
00:13:33
Irby White
I mean, he's got gotten called up to the Italian national team.
00:13:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:37
Irby White
And it's just, I think that'll be, obviously he's got, he, he had, he's ah got experience in Serie A, but I mean, that's a good little training camp for him to be around top, top players in Italy.
00:13:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:50
Irby White
And I mean, potentially even getting, know, game time with them. um so Because I think we we started out the conversation talking about missing out on Gehi. Do we have the numbers there?
00:14:00
Irby White
I think Leone is going to be needed. So I think the the international break for Leone, Isak, Robertson, McAllister, Connor Bradley, Frimpong recovering from injury is just...
00:14:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:14
Irby White
It's come at the right time, you know especially like you said, as a fan.
00:14:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:17
Irby White
It's not ideal since we just started. But I think... for the bigger picture in the, in the run of the season that we're heading into, i mean, champions league and the cup care about cup starting, we're going to need all, we're going to need the squad.
00:14:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:30
Irby White
And so just getting everybody up to speed is, is going to be crucial for a run, trying to win as many trophies as possible.
00:14:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's an interesting point you made about um Leone. And I'd almost kind of put Eketike in that bracket as well, in the sense that Eketike has been called up for France now.
00:14:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it just kind of elevates a player, doesn't it? you know you You come to a ah club like Liverpool Football Club and you know you you've got to be an established international, or at least you know that that's what you aspire to be, right? Because you look around that dressing room, you've got all of them are internationals.
00:15:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Many of them are international captains. And so I think it's really important for them just in terms of their confidence, their status at the club in terms of building their kind of, you know, personality that, look, yeah, i i I'm supposed to be here.
00:15:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I deserve to be at Liverpool Football more Club. So I think that's a really good point. And Leone, I think 100%, I think especially now that we didn't bring Gehi in, I think it just means that Leone will, without a doubt, he will get game time because as much as I love ah Joe Gomez, and I think he reminded everyone,
00:15:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
with that 15-minute cameo against Arsenal, where he was just... There's not many players who can come in third game of the Premier League without having any minutes under his belt and just perform to that level without being flustered.
00:16:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just, you know what, this is just another game because I've done it all.
00:16:07
Irby White
Yeah. And the day before the transfer deadline shut because there was rumors circulating of him going AC Milan, potentially swapping with Palace if we were to get Gehi.
00:16:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
AC Milan.
00:16:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:17
Irby White
So I'm sure his agent, and he'd heard the rumors, or his agent had at least said, these clubs are interested in you 24 hours before the window shuts, and then you have to go and play Arsenal. who you're goingnna If you're going to be a part of the squad, that's going to be the team you're competing against to win the league, one of the teams.
00:16:33
Irby White
no i mean With that distraction, he comes in. He just... Everyone talks about Gehi being a pure professional. Same thing with Joe Gomez.
00:16:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:16:41
Irby White
Never had any drama anything like that with him.
00:16:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:16:43
Irby White
I mean, sure, the injury record has never been too nice to him, but he's always approached it with positivity, and he's just been such a good member of the squad for, is this season 11, I think I saw?
00:16:55
Irby White
Season 10?
00:16:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
he's he's He's our longest serving player now.
00:16:58
Irby White
ah Amazing. And he's, mean, what, still only 28 or something like that. So...
00:17:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:17:04
Irby White
I mean, his some of his best years still could be ahead of him. So, I mean, I think it's crucial to have him around. He can play right back.
00:17:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:10
Irby White
He can play left back, center back. We saw some weird times he played as the six under Klopp those last six months.
00:17:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
He played... Yeah, he played defensive midfield and in in the FA Cup, yeah.
00:17:17
Irby White
So, I think he's crucial to have around. And even if we were to go and get Gehi again, we've talked about Gehi a lot. He's not even a Liverpool player. But if we were to go get him in January, I still think you have to keep Gomez around just because of his versatility.
00:17:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:31
Irby White
And in that hectic period of the season, it's just...
00:17:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
100%.
00:17:35
Irby White
I mean, just what a guy to have around.
00:17:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. No, I 100%
Joe Gomez: An Asset Amid Rumors
00:17:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
agree. And regular listeners of this podcast will we will'll know that I've i've kind of waxed lyrical about Gomez for a long time.
00:17:45
Irby White
And I believe Tuchel likes him too. I think Tuchel has talked about him too.
00:17:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. and
00:17:49
Irby White
It's just if he can stay fit, if he can get game time, I think he's ah an option for the World Cup, whether he would play or not.
00:17:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:56
Irby White
I think Thomas Tuchel, he passes all his different systems from a five-back to a three-back to a four-back. I think he would be ah valuable member of the squad for the world cup.
00:18:08
Irby White
So I'm hoping he can stay fit, um, just for that sake as well.
00:18:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
without He's one of these guys, he's ah he's a player's player and he's a manager's player. So he might not get the kind of you might knock get the headlines, he might not get the kind of um you know people kind of raving about him on social media. But if you ask every single one of those Liverpool players, you know do you want Joe Gomez at the club?
00:18:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
And hands down. Because as she said, He can play anywhere across that back line and not just play there, play there with authority. you know, he will never let you down.
00:18:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he's just such a model professional, never kicks up a fuss, doesn't complain.
00:18:48
Irby White
Yeah. Yep.
00:18:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
If he's asked to play left back, he'll play left back. If he's asked play right back, he'll play right back. He'll just do a job and he'll just, you know, carry on.
00:18:56
Irby White
yep
00:18:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I hope what you say is true, that maybe some of his best years, are ahead of him. And hopefully if he can overcome those injury problems, um, you know, uh, then hopefully that's the case. and ah And again, I also agree, even if we do get gay in, I think having someone like Gomez, you can just play across that back line.
00:19:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
You just, that those players are just, they just don't exist. You know, they're very, very difficult to come by.
00:19:24
Irby White
Mm-hmm.
00:19:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah. But, um, if you, you look at, you know, we've already mentioned that the, um, the number of players that come in and left, it's quite a... It's almost like a revolution as as opposed to an evolution. And, you know, FSG have done this before, ah maybe not to this extent, but even when we had that kind of midfield rebuild, you straight away, it was like Wijnaldum, Henderson, Fabinho out. And then we, you know, we bring in the likes of McAllister, Graubenberg, Sabozlai.
00:20:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And you know it's I think sometimes it's quite a risky move because it's historically, Liverpool used to have a ah phrase of like two in, two out. Like even at our most successful periods, it was like, ah okay, two players out, two players in.
00:20:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Whereas you' you're seeing this much more kind of um aggressive churn of players um under FSG.
Strategic Planning Amidst Competition
00:20:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
But you've got to say it hasn't failed.
00:20:31
Irby White
I love what you said about it being a revolution, not an evolution. you know I viewed this window as an opportunistic window, not just the deals that we and the players that were available or the deals completed.
00:20:46
Irby White
I think the Liverpool hierarchy was looking at Manchester City starting to fall off. me Arsenal, Arsenal, can't get over the line and so maybe those are two squads that are starting to deteriorate that are going to need a bit of ah evolution of their own over the next couple windows and viewed this summer as we've got the money from just our success on and off the pitch let's go and build a squad that's capable of competing for the next four or five years and potentially dominating it's hard to dominate english football but
00:21:20
Irby White
I think they just viewed it as a window of these six, seven players not only are ready to play for Liverpool, but they're young enough to be a part of the squad for five, six years, hopefully winning multiple leagues and champions leagues and cups, while the two biggest clubs, to biggest club two the other two clubs that have been competing for the league the last three years are starting to stumble a little bit.
00:21:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm. Mm.
00:21:44
Irby White
they just viewed this as we can go win and dominate and kind of put Liverpool back on that perch of they were that they were in the seventies and eighties and be the team in England for half a decade. And I think, I mean, it's just, they just, they were ruthless. We've talked about Arnest Slott being ruthless as a manager.
00:22:02
Irby White
And think we'll get onto that point when it comes comes to Kieson a little bit, but I just think, I think that, idea and that philosophy is kind of just circulated throughout the club um with with just from Billy Hogan to just everybody in the Liverpool hierarchy just has that same kind of model in their head.
00:22:20
Irby White
And I mean, I'm excited for what's what's to come. ah This is particular particularly this season. So and I'm glad the window is finally shut, too.
00:22:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think, yeah, 100%.
00:22:31
Irby White
um I'm tired of scrolling on X and Instagram, you know, doom scrolling for any kind of just snippet of just hope.
00:22:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just too stressful.
00:22:38
Irby White
Oh, we're getting this player, this player, this player and focusing on the football for the next three months before we do it all again in January, because I just have a sneaky suspicion we'll I have a sneaky suspicion we'll go for someone, whether it's Gaye or someone else. I just, I don't know. I just have this feeling that that there's someone unnamed that we'll be going after, whether it's a forward midfielder.
00:23:00
Irby White
But um' I'm glad we don't have to deal with that for three months.
00:23:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
See, this is what it's done to us Liverpool supporters.
00:23:05
Irby White
I know.
00:23:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've kind of raised our expectations that we're going to do big things in every transfer window. But it's interesting that you mentioned about the um the opportunity that the club saw, you know, the the kind of football landscape across England, you know, where where City are at the moment.
00:23:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
And, you know, you've rightly pointed out that Arsenal just haven't been able to get over the line. And maybe this was an opportunity to really kind of stamp our authority and really go not just win but dominate.
00:23:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
And one of the criticisms that FSG um that was levelled at them was the last time under Klopp when we won the Premier League, when we won the Champions League, there was this perception that we didn't really then go and really aggressively attack the market and kind of build on that.
00:23:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I think that, you know, in their defence, I think one of the things that FSG are very, you you mentioned ruthless, and I think that's correct, but I think they're also quite disciplined in the sense that I think the financial conditions for the club, um you know, when when we won the Premier League last time and the Champions league under Klopp, I don't think that they were quite there yet, you know, to do everything that they've done this summer.
00:24:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Whereas if you look at now, we've got the the stadium pretty much done. the AXA training ground, which is just like a world-class village facility now, is done.
00:24:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so I think the the base, you know all the sponsorship deals have come in, the new Adidas deal, and I think all of those components coming in now, and Liverpool have just thought, right, we've we've we've placed those building blocks there, and now let's just really kick on. So I think it is really really an exciting period to be a Liverpool supporter.
00:25:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
And, you know, let's see where it takes us. But we're going to go to a very quick break. And then when we come back, we're gonna we're going to look at some of the tactical options um that maybe have opened up for Arnie Slott after this summer transfer window.
Tactical Plans with New Signings
00:25:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Irby, there's been a lot of talk um and speculation around how Arnie's slot will fit his kind of new players together, particularly his ah his new ah attacking options that he's brought in together. You know, we bought Eketike first.
00:26:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
It looked like he he was going to be our main number nine after selling Nunes. And then we go in and get Alexander Izak. And you don't spend £125 million pounds on a player and then sticking him on the bench, right? So what do you think um these signings tell us about Slott's tactical approach for Liverpool this season?
00:26:32
Irby White
I think he wants options and flexibility to play multiple systems and multiple shapes. I kind of want to wrap the, just I don't want to say Mark Gahey's name again after this, but part of me thought in some games, maybe away from home,
00:26:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:52
Irby White
Or I think there was an idea to even play three-back with Gehi, Kanate, and Van Dijk. If you kind of look at their three profiles, you know Van Dijk in a three-back can play the center of a three.
00:27:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:27:05
Irby White
He's done that with the Netherlands. Mark Gehi historically has kind of played as a left-sided center back anyway at Palace. Sometimes they play a five-back, three-back. heek but in a four back, he can play that left-sided center back and Kanate's always played as a right-sided center back. And so I think there were some matches where he was going to consider playing a three back Karakas on the left. And I think Frimpong would have been the one that actually suffered with Sabal Sly kind of playing that right wing back out of possession. And then with the ball, I think Karakas and Sabal Sly would have kind of tucked into midfield and just had a rest off defense of three dominant center backs.
00:27:43
Irby White
Now that that's not completed,
00:27:46
Irby White
I think it gives him now the flexibility as well to play different midfield shapes, but also different attacking shapes.
00:27:53
Irby White
I still think he'll play Hugo Eketike with Isak.
00:27:58
Irby White
Everyone's talking about a 4-4-2 potentially with Salah off the right and Verts off the left, and he can kind of tuck in and link up play when Kerkhez goes, and then Frimpong can attack down that right side.
00:28:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
a
00:28:09
Irby White
I still think he's going to be the player that suffers a little bit because... I mean, I think you'd agree that, that Subalzai has to play, right?
00:28:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
he's got a play
00:28:17
Irby White
He's got play. And so is he going to do kind of that, that inverted Trent role a little bit in letting, you know, Gravenberg or McAllister kind of be a double 10 with Verts.
00:28:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:28:28
Irby White
I'm not sure. i think, You know, defensively, when we don't have the ball, I think it will be Ekotike on the left wing. But then when we have the ball, it'll just be two strikers.
00:28:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:28:39
Irby White
And Salah will have that that kind of ability to float from the right wing to a striker space, even the half space as a 10 with Verts. it's just It's just going to be interesting because I think we all view Ekotike as a striker, right?
00:28:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:55
Irby White
And so is he able to do the defensive dirty work that Gakpo, that we've seen Diaz, that Mane was able to do?
00:29:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:29:03
Irby White
Is he able to do that?
00:29:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:29:05
Irby White
But also, are we going to press so hard like Klopp did that we... don't really have these periods of where we're not, you know, with the ball. And so I just find it really interesting that what what we're going to do with Ekotike and Isak, and ah we have to wait two more weeks, right. To see how this is really going to play out maybe longer while Isak, you know, builds up his fitness. But I think he has a plan in mind to play both of them in some matches. Now there might be some matches where Ekotike comes off the bench, but everyone's talking about them and I'll let you get to your point.
00:29:37
Irby White
But, about how they're just both tall, wiry strikers.
00:29:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. Yeah. Hmm.
00:29:43
Irby White
I do think Isak is more of kind of on the on the shoulder kind of player of sometimes he can be in between the center backs.
00:29:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:29:49
Irby White
He can hang on the shoulder of of one of the center backs in a back four where we've seen a lot of Ekotike kind of dropping into those half spaces, right? Picking up the ball. Center backs we saw in the Bournemouth game were just terrified to go to him because of of the of the pace we had with with with Gakpo and Salah to to ah kind of occupy those spaces center backs leave.
00:30:09
Irby White
And so...
00:30:11
Irby White
I mean, just the flexibility and the and the profile of players we have in attack, particularly now with ISAC, it's just, I think it's going to be frightening for some teams to plan because I think they're going to be like us speculating.
00:30:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:30:22
Irby White
how do How do we defend Ekotike, ISAC, Salah, Wurtz, Saboslay? Like, what how is he going to approach this match against us?
00:30:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. No, I think you're 100% right. I think that i think there's ah there's a an incorrect assumption, i think, you know in in some parts of the media where ah where, where are they going to play all these players? As if they have to play um at the same time every single game.
00:30:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know we We are hopefully looking at a team that will get to about 55, 60 matches you know for for the season, which means that we're going to be going deep into all of the major competitions that we're fighting for the Premier League, we're going deep in the Champions League.
00:31:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
And if that's the case, yeah they can't play every single game.
00:31:10
Irby White
Yeah, exactly.
00:31:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I think there is going to be... and when When we say rotation now, it doesn't have to be wholesale rate rotation. it It can be literally just one player dropping out and then you have another three come in and then you have a different one player dropping out.
00:31:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
And i take your point about the potential of a four four two The only thing that I would say where I think that that's one of the less likelier options that Slott likes is it just, I think it leaves us a bit vulnerable in the middle of the park, which he loves to control.
00:31:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
That middle of the park, central midfield, and I think if you only have effectively two midfielders, which which would be, in our case, maybe Gravenberg and McAllister,
00:31:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think that it just leaves us too exposed. um I didn't think of the three at the back that you that you mentioned with with potentially Gaiji. I know this is like a Gaiji podcast now, even though he's not with us.
00:32:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I thought of that and i thought, wow, what a back three that would have been.
00:32:17
Irby White
it's um I mean, that's impenetrable, if you ask me. I mean, just because they would their job would be, gosh, so so just so simple, attack defense.
00:32:29
Irby White
Just not a lot of rotations.
00:32:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:32:31
Irby White
It's just when we defend, yeah we'll have to ask Karakaz and whoever's on the right to defend in a five. And then when we have the ball, it's just us three. You're not getting past the three of them because if you get past Kanata, if you get past Gehi, you've got the best center back, arguably, to ever play the game.
00:32:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
You've got the best, Yeah.
00:32:46
Irby White
there to recover.
00:32:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then you've got the best goalkeeper in the world as well.
00:32:48
Irby White
Exactly. And so I think it, yeah, it was a very interesting proposition and just idea. Maybe was just a little bit too much football manager and FIFA for me, but at the same time, it's just the idea of it.
00:32:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
who
00:32:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who knows it knows January? January, that might might come to fruition.
00:33:01
Irby White
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows?
00:33:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
The Need for Squad Depth
00:33:04
Irby White
But it just, again, the flexibility and just of, like you said, the players that could come in and out.
00:33:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:33:11
Irby White
And like you said, the media as well, There's always this narrative, I feel like, just with the English media of just, well, how are they like how are they going to fit all these players in? Who's going to play where? It's just like, it's just like but you you have to remember it's England.
00:33:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
As if you have to play 14 players in in a match or something. know
00:33:24
Irby White
and we're
00:33:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:25
Irby White
City have tried going for this quadruple. Liverpool have tried going for this quadruple. it's just We have the quality, even in depth now, that we might get to a Carabao Cup final with...
00:33:36
Irby White
The B team.
00:33:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:38
Irby White
And so just you need these players when it comes to these big matches, especially, you know, you get to March and April and you have a chance to hopefully win a treble. You have games every three days and you get to those latter stages of the Champions League and FA Cup and you're facing.
00:33:52
Irby White
the Bayern Munich's, the Real Madrid's, or the Arsenal's, the City's, the Man United's in your cup.
00:33:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:58
Irby White
And so you just need this level of quality. you know One of my best friends here, Patrick, fellow listener of the podcast, by the way, American listener, he was telling me, he's like, I don't want ISAC.
00:34:08
Irby White
We have Eka Tika. I'd rather we spend the money on... And I kind of understood his point. and He's like, why not go get a Diaz left-wing replacement? and a backup striker for another $40 million. I was like, it's great, but it's also just like there's an opportunity to go get one of the best top three forwards in the world with Isak, and you have this young kid, Rio Ingemoa, coming up.
00:34:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:34:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:34:30
Irby White
It's just like, why block his pathway with him? I mean, that would make him seventh choice forward, arguably, with Chiesa. So he just didn't understand. He's like, where are they all going to play? I was like, if we play 60-65 games, they're both going to get...
00:34:47
Irby White
25, 30 starts in all competitions.
00:34:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
get games they're gonna get games and I think gone are the days now where
00:34:49
Irby White
So I just, you need these players. You need these players.
00:34:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
This used to be a thing you know by a backup striker or or ah or a backup defensive midfielder. I think that the games are so many now that you don't have backup strikers, you just have strikers.
00:35:04
Irby White
Mm-hmm.
00:35:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
and And they are good enough to play in the first team. And I think you know it looks like Liverpool and certainly Arne Slott is falling on this kind of happy medium where, yes, there's been times where we've had 22, 25 players.
00:35:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
But realistically, once you get past the 16th player, they weren't really good enough to really propel Liverpool to a Premier League or a Champions League.
00:35:27
Irby White
Yeah.
00:35:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so now I think we're... We've always had a good first 11, but now we're moving into that territory where we've got 18 and 19, you know, 20 maybe really top-quality players where we can effectively go and challenge for a lot of these competitions...
00:35:44
Irby White
agreed
00:35:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
and have a ah real realistic expectation of of of winning something there.
Dominic Sabozlai at Right Back?
00:35:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
But and another um interesting um another interesting um ah development is is it right back.
00:36:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's it's something that has come come up maybe even by by accident because of the fact that Frimpong was out and Conor Bradley wasn't quite up to match fitness.
00:36:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that is do Dominic Sabozlai moving into right back. And all of a sudden, you've got this guy who's got an unbelievable engine. I mean, i don't know if you saw some of those clips of of ah us.
00:36:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
he him um We're attacking. He's full pelt. full Runs the full length of the pitch. We lose the ball. And then from the edge of the Arsenal penalty area, he bombs it all the way back.
00:36:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
And the guy just does not break stride at all. And then he's got he pinged a diagonal full-length pass to, I think was Veers, which was very Trent-like.
00:36:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then our right-back comes along and and, you know, puts that free kick away. And we're like, you know Trent Alexander who? um You know, so even that has possibly opened up another tactical option for slot.
00:37:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Because if you've got someone of his ability and engines, his engine his work rate, his passing ability, and his goal threat. And he can do that all from right back.
00:37:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's just...
00:37:26
Irby White
It's incredible. I mean, we've kind of, I don't know if the cycle is ending of these infer inverted full backs, excuse me, going into midfield.
00:37:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:37:35
Irby White
you know it It was like a little bit of a trend for for two, three years, and then maybe it's fading a little bit.
00:37:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:37:41
Irby White
um Like, for example, we've gone for Kerekez and Frimpong, these modern kind of attacking outside backs.
00:37:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:37:45
Irby White
But it's funny what you said about him, just the engine. It's just compare him to Roger Federer a little bit, just 90th minute of a game, fifth set. It just doesn't look like he's broken a sweat.
00:37:57
Irby White
Right.
00:37:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's amazing.
00:37:58
Irby White
And so, yeah, It goes back to the point. He has to play. And it's just, I feel like you could play him. You could plug him really anywhere. Do you want him to be a ah plug and play player? I'm not sure.
00:38:10
Irby White
Cause you know, I loved his role under Klopp where he was kind of he took that Henderson role and he was, I mean, he was, he, he did Trent's dirty work, you know, he, and he was able to pop up in those spaces to score goals as well.
00:38:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:38:22
Irby White
It's just, we have such a, the point I was about to make exactly.
00:38:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
But with Vietz coming in, it does it does mean that, you know, even though, you know, we we spoke about the rotation in the forward line. I think there's going to be rotation in that midfield line where, and we saw this at the back end of last season where, you know, McAllister and Gravenberg kind of ran themselves into the ground and come kind of February, March time, you could see them really quite heavy legs.
00:38:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Whereas if you're now, because in the in the early pre-seasons, um So Boslein was playing that double pivot, you know, the number six role.
00:38:57
Irby White
Mm-hmm.
00:38:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so I think that he will, he might not like this, but I think that he will be someone who plays lots of different positions to give maybe McAllister a break in defensive midfield. He might go to to right back. He might play attacking midfield when Virts is not playing.
00:39:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But so there's also the Frimpong situation as well, which I think could be quite interesting, especially during the December-January period when Salah goes to AFCON for you know what could be between, don't know, five, six, seven matches.
00:39:33
Irby White
Yeah.
00:39:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Frimpong, he could quite feasibly be stuck out on that right wing. And then you might have Conor Bradley or Sabozlai playing at right back. So again, there's a ah lot more tactical flexibility there.
00:39:47
Irby White
Exactly to the point about the flexibility. it's just now we have potentially three guys that can play right back and then you know We've talked about Frimpong playing the right wing. He's done it for Leverkusen.
00:39:58
Irby White
He's done it for the Netherlands you know in in different systems, of course, rather than a fourth three our traditional 4-3-3.
00:39:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:04
Irby White
But still, he has not just like a handful. i mean He's got years of experience doing that in just different seasons, different systems, and different coaches.
00:40:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:40:13
Irby White
I think Federico, I hope Federico Chiesa will have something to say about that come January. um But it's just, like it and this is another thing about this international break.
00:40:26
Irby White
It's just, it's leaving you wanting more because we just, I feel like as Liverpool fans, we're so impatient when it comes to transfers as well. Like, okay, can we get the announcement out?
00:40:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:40:36
Irby White
Now we just, were we're so anxious to see what the established big picture idea is that we're going to do 60, 70% the time.
00:40:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:40:44
Irby White
And it's just, I don't want to fast forward to January. i want I want to enjoy every bit of moment, but it just... And that's what that's what's great about podcasting now. it's just like we we can speculate, right, on all these things.
00:40:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:40:56
Irby White
And and let's be honest, Slott knows a lot more about football than you and I combined. It's just, I'm sure he'll come up with something that we would have never even thought of, and it'll be a success. And so, yeah, it's just the idea...
00:41:12
Irby White
And it goes back to the squad. It's just, at least we have the squad now to do all of these things that we're speculating about.
00:41:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
00:41:17
Irby White
And it just, it, it leaves you feeling comfortable, even if there are, you know, Salah goes to AFCON and then there are injuries. It's just, we have all these pieces in place. And then we also have these young guys in place too, that could also hopefully step up.
00:41:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, you mentioned Rio.
00:41:31
Irby White
You know, we've got Rio that we've talked about. I don't think we've talked about Naoni enough.
00:41:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:41:35
Irby White
um Stefan Bocetich is, is firmly back in the squad now.
00:41:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's another really interesting one. Yeah.
00:41:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I'm i'm so pleased. ah for him that he he is back and hopefully if he can get over those injury problems I really genuinely think that he is he's someone that can really make a ah massive difference to our midfield in terms of just adding that quality depth um so he's another ah you know one to look out for but so you mentioned Chiesa so let's have a little pivot to the announcements of the Champions League squad
00:41:40
Irby White
yeah.
00:41:54
Irby White
i hope.
Chiesa's Champions League Exclusion
00:42:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Now, we you know there's a 25-man squad. We only announced 22 players because of the limit of um you know overseas players. You've got to have a certain number of homegrown players, which we've only... And that's why we've only gone for 22 players.
00:42:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
No room for Chiesa. You've got to feel for the guy because he got hardly any game time last season. And again, absolute model professional.
00:42:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
You never saw him kind of kicking up a fuss. You never even saw him sulking, which as as a seasoned Italian international, he's come from Juventus, right?
00:42:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
You wouldn't blame him for having, let's say, a long face if he was sat on the bench. You'd think, okay, right, he's he's got he's an elite professional. He wants to be playing.
00:43:03
Irby White
And he was, I mean, the player of the tournament in Euro 2020 Yep.
00:43:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
But he was, yeah, exactly.
00:43:06
Irby White
Yep.
00:43:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
But he he never showed anything other than ah professional attitude.
00:43:12
Irby White
yeah
00:43:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then when he came and when he would come on, it would be for like for two or three minutes, but he would have such a great attitude. And now this season, he's got more minutes than he's probably had the entirety of the last season, had a good start is is scored.
00:43:23
Irby White
yep
00:43:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And then he gets this kind of body blow. of He's not going to be in the champions league. And I'm just thinking, what does that, what does that mean for Chiesa?
00:43:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
i'm I'm really looking ahead to January. does Does that mean he's thinking, you know what, look, um I've given it my best shot and I'm still going to play with a great attitude. There's no way I kind can't ah can't be in the Champions League.
00:43:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
just If I want to make it into the the World Cup squad for Italy in the summer, I've got to move.
00:43:53
Irby White
And ah
00:43:57
Irby White
yeah, exactly. He's got him. And we've talked about just, I mean, the word ruthless time and time again with the manager. I think he is like, like he's got a heart.
00:44:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:44:07
Irby White
He's a kind, friendly guy, but when it comes to just his work and the football and decision-making, it's just, he can't be sympathetic, um which to ah an extent I believe in, especially as a coach, you have to, but
00:44:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Decision making. yeah Yeah. You
00:44:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
you have to.
00:44:23
Irby White
Just for his sake, it's just, I mean, he's just come off of scoring the winning goal against Bournemouth. He's making an impact off benchit off the bench.
00:44:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:31
Irby White
um It felt like we finally found a role for him, and then just this comes in a World Cup year. It's just, yeah, I mean, just an absolute blow for him. And I just, I hope...
00:44:43
Irby White
that just give you have to give care about cup games, just every single one, you give him the cup games. Hopefully we progress for his sake.
00:44:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:44:51
Irby White
He's got to start every single one of those games. Hopefully until, you know, we get to the latter stages,
00:44:59
Irby White
you know, and I haven't, I've just been, you know, yesterday was just kind of a busy day with, with coaching and all that. I kind of just saw this and I was like, it was just a strange one to me.
00:45:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:45:07
Irby White
And I've kind of been catching up on it on social media and trying to, forming an opinion and it's just it's more of just kind of just sadness for him
00:45:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah i mean i get from slots perspective you know to give rio that spot in terms of his development. But um I think most Liverpool sports, because they've really taken Chiesa to their hearts.
00:45:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I really do think that, I think that in January, i think I don't want him to leave, um but I think that he will. And I think for his sake, I think he should, because he's he's too good to be sat on the bench and he's too good not to make the Italian squad for the World Cup.
00:45:43
Irby White
yeah
00:45:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so, I think it'll be a ah real shame, but um I can see him leaving in January.
00:45:51
Irby White
I just think he has to, I think he just has to stay selfishly again. That might just be from Slott's point of view as well. it's just, Salah's going to be gone. hopeful I mean, we we all want Salah to win AFCON, right?
00:46:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:46:05
Irby White
You know, we want him back as soon as possible, coming back healthy, but it's also just, you want him to go win it.
00:46:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't want him to win AFCON.
00:46:09
Irby White
And so,
00:46:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
I want Egypt to get knocked out in the the earliest possible time so that he comes back.
00:46:15
Irby White
I don't know.
00:46:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's terrible thing to say.
00:46:15
Irby White
I was i was thrilled for Sadio Mane a couple of years ago.
00:46:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, no, you're right, you're right.
00:46:20
Irby White
um But it's just during that period, we need him. And I think we just we have to just say well you know, I mean, as soon as the Champions League final in June is over, you'll get your move, hopefully back to Italy.
00:46:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:46:33
Irby White
um
00:46:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:46:34
Irby White
Give us a season. i just I think we're going to need him, and I think he's going to score a handful of important goals here and there, whether it's to a winning goal like he did against Bournemouth or a goal to kind of wrap up a game, whether it's in a you know a tight 2-1 game and then we wrap it up three one He gets that kind of that late goal to kind of seal a match for us.
00:46:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:46:55
Irby White
you know Give him that Shaqiri role a little bit. because Reward him a little bit more.
00:46:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:59
Irby White
um And then, like you said, if he can kick on for the next eight months or so, play a part, maybely maybe get in the World Cup squad when he gets his time, and then hopefully you know sell him on and we go get Michael Alise.
00:47:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:47:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Police.
00:47:16
Irby White
Yeah.
00:47:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely. He's he's what he's wonder he's definitely one for the future when Mo moves on. But so yeah, we'll see how that develops. But look, we're going to wrap it up for today now. That's all for today. You've been listening to the Daily Liverpool podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. Please support the show by following us wherever you get your podcasts. We'll be back on Monday to bring you all the latest news on the Reds. Until next time, from myself and Irby, thank you for listening.