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Speaker: Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. And back with Paul after the summer. The summer heat. The summer things. of the thingss heat wave even.
Speaker: <unk> hey It was a heat wave. Several. think like three or four waves. o And ah so if you've already read the title of the podcast, this is Paul's farewell podcast episode. Oh, my God.
Speaker: So ah without whi well well let's so so let's let's get into it. But first, we have to go to a place where the distractions are landmarks and the detours are the main roads.
Speaker: Welcome to Paul's last ever, possibly, ah ADA Steville. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Because the boys are here.
Speaker: The boys were here. They were still here until the end of this particular episode. I just made up those nukes. I'm just...
Speaker: those links of the just there and then. ah love Amazing, isn't it? I love it. m Okay, hello. I was, no, I am, um Thompson, and I was diagnosed with the combined ADHD, the deer get dragged on three years ago.
Speaker: Jesus, and I'm Martin West, and I was officially diagnosed with the combined ADHD, poopy, platen, suspected autistic. And we are the mayors, currently, of ADHDville, and we're here at the King's Agitated Head, tablecloth, taking care of business and the business today is like the business of saying farewell to Paul.
Speaker: um Yeah. So let's ah well let's jump into the tractor for the last time. Yeah. And we'll just head on over to the coffee place um well um we'll and we'll just get into it.
Speaker: We'll get into it. We'll get into it. one me Right. get into this.
Speaker: into this
Speaker: rough
Speaker: going to get it off. I've got my tea. I'm ready to go. I haven't got anything. I've nothing. Oh. Nothing.
Speaker: Beverage wise. You're going to be like dry mouth Thompson.
Speaker: to to dry and mouth thompson and Well, not only for many reasons, but also because I'm on medication at the moment. It's drying out my mouth.
Speaker: I'm on medication for migraines. Oh, wow. It's a new drops. They give me drops, Martin, for my migraines. All right. Yeah, anyway.
Speaker: right apparently some people use these same drops yeah the same drops from migraines apparently some use it as an off-label adhd solution okay okay all right sounds something all right well let's get into it so uh what's going on paul what is going on well i can't remember i can't remember whether we told peeps before that I've got a new job or whether it was just a conversation that you and I had.
Speaker: Did we tell people? I don't know. But anyway. nice I've got a new job. All right. I've got a new job. I've got a full-time job teaching at a private primary school.
Speaker: um a kind of dual language Italian English, Anglo-English school full time job from 9 until 3 then but because I've got to pay bills which we'll get on in a minute because I've got bills to pay I've also got other jobs so I'll get home I've got about half an hour do to myself not even like 20 minutes and then I've got three hours of teaching online to do. Wow.
Speaker: That's what's going to happen. So that's the kind of ah the theme for today's episode. It's like, okay, right, we talk about, you know, we talk a lot about, you know, trying to find a job that's compatible with being ADHD and autistic or both, right?
Speaker: But actually, I think it's less than 1% that get to choose, that have the luxury of saying, um oh I'm going to do a job that's compatible with me being autistic.
Speaker: No, it doesn't happen. Hardly ever. think it hardly happens. So I've got, as we've talked about the ADHD tax a number of times in a couple of episodes, I've got some bills to pay.
Speaker: right so that's it you know yeah yeah so it's it's uh yeah yeah cash yeah the that the whole money side caught up with you anyway i mean mean jesus i mean i have to make money yeah i'm in a fucking panic to uh try and make cash myself so uh yeah yeah Yeah, I mean, it's got to the point where there's this, like, it's going to sound ridiculous, but there's someone opposite me looking at this window here.
Speaker: Right. That um is going is is going on, ah is having, like, an Amazon binge. And every day a fucking truck, not truck, a little van turns up.
Speaker: And every time his van turns up with his Amazon packages, I think it's going to be another someone else asking me for money. so it puts me on edge whenever they park up next to me or opposite us you know oh god it's gonna be so i like enough i don't care how i've got a i don't know i don't care how compatible it's not or it is this job i've got place to build right yeah yeah just reality you know look after number one
Speaker: Yeah. And hopefully if I do that for, you know, eight to nine months, I'll sort it all out. Nice. Which would be nice, wouldn't it, Martin? Oh, God. Can you imagine the the relief?
Speaker: And maybe I'll come back to doing the podcast again. That's the point. Right. Because at the moment, I can't. I'll be been burning too many matches. You know, post Michael in Canada.
Speaker: Hello, Michael. as As you put it, would be using up too many spoons. Right, right, right. And I couldn't, there's no way I could keep go keep keep going on with the podcast for the moment.
Speaker: For the moment. the moment. Right. Well, I mean, like, so if, I mean, i i so in case anyone's wondering what's happening with this podcast, the ADHD podcast will carry on.
Speaker: um And I'll kind of go into that way down. later so uh that that that will carry on so i you know what paul if you come back and you're kind of going you know what mate i kind of want to do the whole podcast thing again right yeah yeah
Speaker: ADHD will probably be like running it, doing its thing. And you can certainly come back as a guest and kind all that. but ah Well, I was just going to say, would come back as a guest every once in a while. Right. You can just come back as a guest.
Speaker: And that's totally fine. And pop in. You know what I mean? Yeah. And if you did ever want to do a but podcast, i thought I think we'll, I think...
Speaker: You and I will do a different podcast. I think we'll just do. Probably. Something else. You know what mean? Probably. his Because, i mean, that brings up another subject, Martin. Because we were wondering about, well, ADHDville as a name. Because it should be, it should be all ADHDville.
Speaker: Because i would see my doctor, Martin, last week. Right. About getting an official autism thing going on.
Speaker: i fine And i've got I've got a prescription. yeah In Italy, you have to do that. You need to go to your GP first, and then you can get, and then blah, blah, blah.
Speaker: So, well, point being, maybe in a few months' time, I'll have my official autism yeah kind of... team bro in italian is team bro yeah um diagnosis diagnosis yeah rubber stamp ra right all right all right yeah well when that happens you you you should definitely come back and yeah yeah i mean i know that i am like you know that you are right
Speaker: i know i mean i know that i am like you know that you are right I've got it coming from both sides. Right.
Speaker: i I do tend to think that if you've bothered to think about whether you are or not and you've gone into researching whether you are or not and you're down in the weeds of whether you are or not, you probably are.
Speaker: Right. Yeah. Down in the weeds, kicking the can down the road. Right. think i was spen About time I just picked up that can. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: and put it where it needs to be. All right. so that So that kind of like clears up why. And so that's good. So we've done that. And then what happens next? We've kind of cleared that up a little bit. soft soft So the rest of this episode, just in case anyone's interested, right?
Speaker: I have no, there is no so no script. This is just going to be. Yes. didn we enormous script Just Well, I mean, no. Well, no.
Speaker: But we had like talking points. We had talking points. But this is going to be like, yeah, so there is no quiz at the end of this. we won't be doing a letter part. I'll be doing all of that right next week. But um so this is this is this is just you and me chatting about the 140 people
Speaker: 140 something episodes. Episodes and and just yeah reflecting on that. Well, let's reflect then. Because i it's been a really important companion for me over the, like well, you and the podcast, Martin.
Speaker: A companion for me to like, you know, to like um rest my weary, you know, sold and into the vast um um jacuzzi kind of kind of place to where could rest and my my my ADHD kind of thoughts.
Speaker: Right. Yeah. I mean, it's been the same for me in that I think if I didn't do, if I hadn't have done this podcast, my ADHD would not be on the front of my mind and it would just kind of s slipped back into like, and I yeah would, and I would have just carried on, know, bumping along, not really thinking about it a huge amount.
Speaker: So I kind of like that every week, like I'm forced to like, at least sit down and chat about it and, and, and, research stuff. Oh, and tons of research.
Speaker: even but There was a thing a cup about 10 days ago. I thought, oh, I need to say that on my next podcast. It's like, oh, I've got no outlet anymore for those kind of like things that you want to say about latest things that are happening.
Speaker: There's a lot happening. There's a lot. There's a couple of, ah there's one podcast actually that is no more in the UK. It was actually my favorite podcast.
Speaker: Right. ADHD, no, what's called? The Other 20% is called Podcast. they're not They're not doing a podcast for a while. They're kind like, I know what they're doing.
Speaker: But it's a real shame. But there's a lot happening at the moment. There's a lot happening. with ADHD in the ADHD world. A lot of new research.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. I've been, yeah, though but it'll be interesting to kind of see what what comes next. But yeah, I mean, like podcasts come and then they go. They go, apparently.
Speaker: Right. Because, you know, what, right the beginning, I thought if we get to 10 episodes, that that would be, that would be something. That would be like, I wasn't even sure that we would get That be a thing. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. And we did almost three years in the end. Right. Almost. must yeah Without a break. Not far off. Yeah, I know, right? That's astonishing, isn't it?
Speaker: It is nuts. At the very least, how fast that's gone as well. Yes, because if you'd if you'd said to me, like, yeah, you're going to do a podcast with Paul and and you're going to do it for about three years, they were like,
Speaker: No, never. way. Three years. Three years. Three. What, we can't make out for three years? No. But you but this I think as you um suggested, Martin, you know, having been doing having the commitment of a podcast every week means that you do a certain level of research, you know.
Speaker: and the You know, research, you know, for the benefit of our listeners, obviously, you know, our viewers, but also for our own benefit as well. Yeah.
Speaker: You know, learning what there is to learn, keeping abreast of what's going on in the world of ADHD. I have been keeping abreast or two of what is going on in the world.
Speaker: So where are you with your autism? Are you are you thinking of getting that? rub us down to... No. Because here it is expensive.
Speaker: Right. I mean, thousands of thousands of of like dollars to get an an autism assessment so right it is a lot of money um and time and there's nothing i can get out of it it isn't like so yeah you know there's no there's no accommodations that I can apply for or dis disabilities that I can apply for not that i would be because I'm fairly capable but
Speaker: um So i there's no point. Yeah. Yeah. i'm Kind of the same with mine as well. By the way, in the in the three years we've been doing the podcast, when I got my diagnosis for ADHD three years ago, it took me two months to get a diagnosis. Okay.
Speaker: Now the waiting list is five years. Yeah. in just three years the difference in Italy has gone off the scale.
Speaker: Right. Which is good. you know there's There's a lot more awareness. There are now a few ADHD podcasts in Italian.
Speaker: okay They just weren't there three years ago. this one no wonder If you said ADHD in Italy, they'd what are you talking about? Now it's becoming a thing.
Speaker: You could to clean up with your... I could clean up. With an Italian language ADHD podcast. Yeah, but yes, I could. I don't think my Italian is that good.
Speaker: It's pretty good. i mean, I am bilingual, um but do a podcast in Italian, that's bit of a stretch, Sparty. All right, fair enough. um But i have I have thought about, because i'd be I'll be teaching primary school, I've already had a conversation with the people that are employing me about, asked them how many children they had that they suspected of having ADHD or autism, and unlessce they said, oh, don't know.
Speaker: So um I'm going to be, I'll be into it, um um and maybe recognising, these kind of traits in my kids.
Speaker: Right. yeah Um, I start in about, um, two weeks time. That's going to be really interesting. I'm going to be teaching kids English, um, from about about four, five and six year olds.
Speaker: Wow. And, uh, that's going to be really interesting. Really looking forward to actually a challenge. Yeah, Jesus Christ. rather Rather you than me, pal. Yeah.
Speaker: I don't know. I could... And maybe one day getting into, you know, in Italy it's a bit tricky. You need certification and stuff. But maybe I'll get into it. Maybe not.
Speaker: This could be my last job, i was thinking, Martin. Right. If all goes well... This could be my last freaking job that I ever do. Your last full-time job?
Speaker: Yeah. Which is weird to think about. ah know I know. am really... I mean, as I said, even though I'm i'm looking for...
Speaker: ah streams of income. Yeah. i am Doing a full-time job feels like I will apply to two full-time work.
Speaker: Right. I will hold my nose and kind of just put... put my in a private things but I mean and if something came up that looked kind of maybe it was remote and I could still work at home and maybe I'll you know okay if the money's worth it then sure but I really don't want really don't want to well my job is from 9 until 3 every day not including weekends
Speaker: Not only weekends. So that's my job. It's also um three minutes from my house. Oh, Jesus Christ, on a bike. Yeah, on a bike.
Speaker: You could, right. I could easily cycle to work and back. So that's a big... um In terms of... I mean, that's when I come back, and I will be coming back as a guest on at least several occasions. Absolutely.
Speaker: And um it will i'm going to try and learn to, you know, not to burn my matches.
Speaker: And to like know to to manage my flow, my energy energy flow. Now, knowing what I know now about my ADHD. Right. Yeah. It's going to interesting.
Speaker: Nice. Yeah. so um I was curious to know, Martin. Get for it. Because we you and I have done the same job for the last 27 years in the creative sector, right?
Speaker: Yes. um In terms of how compatible would you say that job was for you, that compatible with you being ADHD and autistic?
Speaker: I approve. I would say if I was diagnosed and I understood. Diagnosed 27 years ago.
Speaker: Yeah. And I just understood myself better. I would say working in graphic design advertising. Was pretty.
Speaker: i've got a percentage here. It is. I'd say it was like 70% compatible. patable
Speaker: All right, your arms are extremely in here. I've written here in my script, I did a job for 27 years that was, is, was 70% compatible.
Speaker: God, look at that. Look at that. On the same wavelength. Yeah. Because there was that 30% that was like, holy crap.
Speaker: It was a bit kind of... Well, yeah. It was good because there was the dopamine, you had the deadlines, but there was also the, you know, the, what's it called?
Speaker: The, when you just lose all your energy. Right. The burnout. Burnout. Right. Major burnout. Right. Because ah how the, I mean, just for the folks at home, so how the, and ah a lot of,
Speaker: When you work at an ad a agency, you pitch a lot. You're pitching for work, right? So there'd be a thing that will say, okay, well, Samsung, have new phone out. They're looking for some pitches, right? So you will work on a pitch. And this is outside of your normal work, your day-to-day work and the projects that you're currently doing and working on.
Speaker: Then you'd have a pitch come in. and that was working outside of your day-to-day. So that meant evenings or weekends. Right. And it would be very intense, very stressful. We have to win the pitch. And it was, i mean, it was quite... Sometimes, often the pitches were unpaid.
Speaker: often um'm unpaid. Right. So you don't get any extra... Even more <unk> pressure Right. So you don't get any extra money for working weekends or anything.
Speaker: You just do it because you want to win. And...
Speaker: And they're really good fun, but you get... but you start to get more and more pitches and then they burn you out and there' and they're... and that part of the work I found was the killer.
Speaker: That was what got me in the end, was the picture and the stress and the anxiety of it. I remember once, i ah my boss was away on holiday and when I would say boss, he was the founder.
Speaker: He was the founder of the agency. And he was on holiday and when the pitch came in, and I just followed my my gut instinct on the pitch.
Speaker: And he came back a day before the pitch was to be presented. He said, oh, I think we should also pitch a safe route, Paul. So I worked until 4 o'clock in the morning on his safe pitch.
Speaker: Right. Right? e And we we pitched at about 10 o'clock in the morning. i My pitch won it. Yeah.
Speaker: yeah And to be fair to him, he didn't apologize for making me work until 4 o'clock in the morning. But holy crap, you know, holy crap. You know, if you don't want the risk, just don't go on holiday.
Speaker: Right. just you know Just trust me. But that's how it just how it is. Right. I think i've I've said this before. i think I was working on ah oh it was a think it was a PlayStation pitch.
Speaker: um And it was, i worked all day, all night, all day, all night, all day.
Speaker: Right. So that was 24, 48, 50, 60 hours, right? 60 hours continuously. That's mental. On this pitch. And we didn't win it, which was annoying.
Speaker: after all that effort? i One of the biggest pitches I had in recent years, when I say recent years, was pre-COVID.
Speaker: That was the last big pitch that did. it It was for one of the biggest, or no, it was the biggest energy company in Italy. right So and we're pitching for their whole digital footprint.
Speaker: Right? Right. So from their website to the to their um to their social, everything. We're pitching for that. And it was the first time, I didn't know until afterwards, but they paid to be on the pitch list.
Speaker: They paid $20,000.
Speaker: euros which is about $20,000. Right. right to to be To have the privilege of pitching. Oh, my God. And we lost.
Speaker: The pressure. The pressure. That's insane. of I'm glad. i'm glad i It sounds like you didn't know that at the at the time. No, I didn't know it at all.
Speaker: Thank I didn't know it. In fact, I didn't know at the time that I was employed... specifically to see them through, well, to have because they lost their creative director at the last minute before they pitched for it. okay So they took me on. They didn't tell me this, but i was basically taken on so they could they they had um a creative director as a figure in their structure.
Speaker: So they could say, oh, we've got a creative director. But they didn't tell me any of this. Yeah. it's is this this It's the same old shady shenanigans. like Oh, shady? It's kind of second-hand car salesman. Right. level so ah So I came and set up the New York agency right for this ad agency. And... um We had so few people, I mean, I am guilty of this of the shadiness, that when we had a client come around to look at, to to to see the workplace, right, to see who we are, we would we would basically just bus in friends, anyone that we knew, anyone that anyone knew, to basically just sit at desks so it made us look like we had way more people than we actually did. Yeah, i had that. had the same in London, and an agency, and they yeah they're they were pitching for Sky, Sky Digital.
Speaker: m This was before Sky were became really big. Right. Right. um I know that because I worked on the Sky Digital account, but they when they pitched for the account, they they hired in freelancers and hired in and computers as well.
Speaker: Oh yeah, totally yeah, yeah. So they populated the agency with people. and that Made them look three times bigger than they actually were.
Speaker: Yeah, for sure. And then the Sky, when they said, oh, congratulations, you've won the account, but just so you know, we're going to make you bleed for your money. Nice. Nice.
Speaker: that's And they did. That's pretty much how they worked. Right. Yeah. Bastards. Yeah, that rock there are clients that are nice to work with.
Speaker: And at those that are odd. And those that are just. I'm sure they're much nicer clients now, though, Martin. They're probably really nice clients now. I'm sure there's a whole different crew. I'm sure they're lovely clients now.
Speaker: Right, right, right. Yeah. But, you know, like, so, you know, just telling people who are who are who are listening, there was always a war going on between the client who just makes...
Speaker: loads of changes makes you work late just like just being complete dicks about it right and they just like yeah and then you've got us on the other side on the creative side who just kind of get who who eventually go, this is enough, right? We cannot work on this anymore.
Speaker: And then there's a sort of a ah sort of a battle that kind of goes on where the agency doesn't want to push back on the client because they think the client's going to just leave. Totally. But they have to keep their they they they creative style happy. so So they all kind of come up with some sort of agreement about, okay, well, you can only have three revisions and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker: And everyone goes, okay, well, that sounds good. And then the client ignores it. and just go back to the whole chaos. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: I've had more than that. i've had I had a creative director once that um finally, after a lot of tons of work, the client finally approved the work and then the creative debt director walked them back and says, no, I'm rejecting it.
Speaker: It's not right. Even though it had been approved, I'd worked in it, the account director had approved it, the client approved it, the client directors came in because he wanted to let show his muscle and says, no, I'm rejecting it.
Speaker: So it all started all over again just because he wanted to, you know, It's just ego games. Just just bullshit. Right. So anyway, so yeah cause that's yeah, we just went off on a tangent about... Just a tangent there.
Speaker: Yeah. But yeah, the point being about ADHD compatibility. Right. and i think that that i I did a quick check, Martin, before we kept them online, right?
Speaker: And it says that with research research focus on focusing on co-occurring conditions and subclinical traits of ADHD and autism, um the figure is up to 30% of the whole of the global population are neurodiverse. 30%.
Speaker: thirty percent Oh, wow. Right? And I wonder, I suspect that less than half of 1% are doing ADHD or autistically, you know, compatible jobs.
Speaker: Right. A lot less. Yeah, a lot less. yeah because ah Yeah, because people do tend to like,
Speaker: they'll either kind of do a job like ours where you're in one industry and then it's, it's you know, like I know that alex Alexandra worked in a kitchen, for example, as a chef. And it feels very similar in that in that it's it is quite an is this quite and quite an and abusive environment or it certainly can be easily can massively and huge so you kind of work in this industry and then you burn out right and you can no longer do it um or you kind of like just bounce around from job to job to job to your because you can't know because it's very difficult to
Speaker: Yeah. Or when you get, you know, age 56, you get an ADHD diagnosis, and you start reflecting on your job that you did the last 20-odd years, you think, holy crap, there's just a pattern of burnout.
Speaker: Right. You know? Yeah. What you thought was just, you know, like problems, you know, nailing down a job, would actually just burn out. Right.
Speaker: Yes. Because you're undiagnosed you and you don't know who you are and you're just like yeah pushing and pushing yourself because the industry that you're in really pressures you into like yeah doing working hard.
Speaker: Yeah. There was one job, I got sacked him from one job and and you know I felt there was an element of shame about getting sacked because it's the only job I was ever sacked for.
Speaker: in my career now look look back and you think no they're acting like assholes that in the agency and had ever i every you know it's like every excuse to behave in the way i did because they just they're just abusing my my generosity you know the amount of hours i was putting in Right.
Speaker: I mean, i yeah, i've as I said before, i've been I've been sacked from almost every job that I've ever had. And that's vaness because the industry that I work in is like has a very high rate of being fired.
Speaker: um and yeah And that's usually because, and that's almost always because, It's not like personal personal um failing. it's It's always like we lost a client, therefore we have to let go of a bunch of people.
Speaker: Yeah. And goodbye. your got so So we worked for for Redland Communications, right? Way back, way back, way back in the 80s, I don't know. late Right. Mid to late 90s. Mid for sure.
Speaker: um And yeah, and ah we were all working away, you and me in our little studio doing stupid little things with brochures and leaflets for bricks and roof tiles and whatever.
Speaker: And then we all get marched into a conference room, right? So our boss goes, right, everyone, okay, ah we're all going to the conference room. We all go in there. We all sit down. and then the CEO guy, boss guy goes, well, we're going to let go of the entire communications department. That's all of you.
Speaker: So you're all gone. Yeah. And that's like, that's been, that's, that's like That's happened to me over and over and over and over and over again. Yeah, yeah. That pattern.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah, totally. I'd left by then, though. Oh, would you? I'd left by then. ah you didn't get to i i experience that little little bit of fun. No, didn't, no. oh ill do these kind of I'd probably already started working in London by that time.
Speaker: and Well, I worked in London it before then, and then they moved to moved around a lot. But yeah, I'd left by then. Oh, right. Yeah. and So i'm I'm quite used to the whole the whole, you know, walking one day and then you find out that you let go and then you just walk out again.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. So um well um i'm goingnna try it I'm going to try and make my new job ADHD compatible. They've been really nice. They've said, Paul, you've got a completely um clean slate.
Speaker: You can do whatever you want with our kids. Wow. Educationally, I mean. Yeah, obviously. Yeah. i i And so he said, look, you've got a completely...
Speaker: a black piece of paper, Paul. You can do whatever you like. Fantastic. Jesus. So I've ordered books. All right. I did some research, ordered all the books I want to do Right. And, yeah, we're going to get creative.
Speaker: Wow. All right. That sounds like a load of fun. They've been really trusting. They said, look, Paul, you've got a black piece of paper. Fantastic.
Speaker: Wow. It's to be quite an experience. a the I think I'm going to be exhausted, but because I don't ah can't do even though I've been diagnosed with ADHD, I can't do anything at half pace.
Speaker: I'm all or nothing. All right. And I'm going to burn all my matches. I'm going come on as a guest. You'll barely recognize me. You're going to say, Paul, what the fuck happened?
Speaker: right i burned all my matches i burned my matches mate uh can we start start up audi age h h uh a hdville so yes there we go we'll do audi hdville yeah as as as a sister podcaster oh adhdville yes so God lord.
Speaker: Well, that's that's... All right, well, that's... ah it's its Exciting times for you. Exciting times. Oh, that's for sure.
Speaker: Oh, blimey. That's for sure. But yeah, so I'll be coming on as a guest every now and again. Yeah. Well, you know what? it's been it's been like yeah cause ah It's been interesting that you've stuck this out for nearly three years.
Speaker: Yeah, which is rare. Right. It's rare. It is. And you know i I think if there's like something to be learned from that, it's like doing things with someone else gives it much more chance of being, you know, being at least 16. If I'd done the podcast by myself, it would have been like 25, 26 episodes.
Speaker: Oh, right. And then you would have been like, bah, can't do it anymore. Yeah. yeah cause it cause it cause it Yeah, because it is a a commitment to kind of like go, right, we are going to do something every every week.
Speaker: And by and large, we we have hit every every Tuesday. Not every Tuesday, but certainly almost every Tuesday. Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: We've done it. Yeah, we've been pretty, Disciplined. We've been quite disciplined about it. for Right. And I don't think part that is because it's just it's just fun to sit down and chat to you every every week. you know like it's just like it's It's just a pleasurable part of my week. So it's like, yeah, of course I'll make time for that.
Speaker: Cool. Yeah. Okey dokey.
Speaker: It's the yeah it's the it's the is the end of an of an era. you know, 140-odd episodes is... Yeah. It's no laughing matter. What's a laughing matter?
Speaker: it's it's a It's a triumph. It's what it is. Totally a triumph. Mmm. Totally a trope. All right. Okay. Well, you know what I thought we would do is ah is ah is a ah I would get you to rate ah doing the whole podcast.
Speaker: Okay, right. So we can have the sort of ratings. And then yeah we can yeah you can kind of give us your- Okay, the rating. That's so easy. That's a no brainer. Give us the It's a no brainer.
Speaker: Right. The final- Dofamine is so easy, such an easy 10. or hang on, hang on, hang on. I have to hit the- ah i have to hit the oh Okay. I have to hit the button. I'm sorry, yes. The banjo.
Speaker: The banjo. For the last time. The banjo. Here we go. Is it a dopamine hit or is it a burnout thing? The ADHD podcast. Is it a dopamine hit or is it a burnout thing?
Speaker: Well, let's say Martin, surprise, surprise, I'm going to give a dopamine hit a full 10. I'm going to round it off to 10. Full 10. Full 10.
Speaker: ten wow And then, alright, and then how much is it has it has it been a burn? How much has it taken away from you? Well, very, very life essence.
Speaker: Well, I mean, it's not zero. no It's not zero because it's been revelatory. I think is the word.
Speaker: You know, in terms of, because we started the podcast literally a week after I got my diagnosis. Right. so it's been had ah there' been um Yeah.
Speaker: So it's been painful at times. It's only been painful for because of the natural course you take after such a such a diagnosis. Right. So burnout, you know, in terms of...
Speaker: Just like every week, you know, you kind of, I did i didnt need a break as ah as I took at the end of end of July. I started thinking about it all the time. So burnout, I'm going to burnout is like a, I don't know, two point, going round it off, 2.97. All right, that's that a nice round number.
Speaker: Yeah. 2.997. Here we go. I shall enter it into the scores. all of times. You're going to miss my quiz. That's what you're going to miss, Marty.
Speaker: Challenging your your little grey matter. Right. Big grey matter. Sorry, big grey matter. So, right. So, I think you're you're right. we should We should we should round round up and round out the quiz part. i dont i don't think I've got the scores.
Speaker: Anywhere. think I won the first round, and then we were like neck and neck. won the first round. And then neck and neck on the on the second round. I think it was neck and neck.
Speaker: Yeah. I think that's where we were. So I think ah so that's where we so that's where the d the quizzes then draw.
Speaker: left left left off it was like it was like one it was game one to me and then a draw
Speaker: Yes, exactly. That was fun. and I was all keeping score, to be honest, Martin. Clearly you were. You're a lot more competitive than I am.
Speaker: Well, see, I kind of thought that if like if there was some tension that I could like pull from it, you know what I mean? It's like, oh, you're in the lead. Oh, I'm in the lead. was trying to squeeze a little bit more.
Speaker: you know, little bit more drama out of it. Right. I think we squeezed quite a lot. Yeah, I genuinely didn't care whether who won or not. It was just like, it was just... Oh, I did. ah so Oh, yes, you were like, God damn me, Martin. Oh, I'm fiercely competitive.
Speaker: All right. All right. Yeah, no, I... yeah I wasn't at all. um Do I have... wonder if I have my other... Oh, I had some funny glasses that I just thought... Anyway, fuck that.
Speaker: I'm just... I'm just phone anyone at home up i'm actually just... For some reason, I decided to go through the the the drawers of my desk for no reason.
Speaker: But, other like, shuffling. No, not shuffling. What's the word? Rummaging, rummaging. Rummaging, I know. It's like random bits of art artwork from school.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: Random crap. That is that is real rummaging. That is proper class rummaging. All right. and what do i mean Do you have any... like any and ah think I think that's it really. Final thoughts? All right.
Speaker: Well, we will have you back as a guest. Yes. And I'm sure that'll be good fun. Before you know it, I'll be back.
Speaker: Before you know it, you'll be like... the airwaves. Martin, you're talking all really wrong. I need to get back to the podcast. I got sacked.
Speaker: like Oh, blimey. Oh, all right. um In that case, I think it will just be... um All right, so but I can then tell you about ah next week.
Speaker: So next week, post-Paul, it will be season two of ADHD, your podcast. We've had season one, Paul,
Speaker: triumphantly, heroically even, kicks off the podcast with me. 140 odd episodes. Triumph of, of i get against all odds, against all neurodivergent odds.
Speaker: A triumph of podcast content. Exactly. And ah so that was a very epic season one. And next week we'll be doing starting off season two with with with Amy, um who's been keeping me company for the summer series.
Speaker: so she's coming back full time um and we will shuffle things around a bit because because this because the season one like that's its own thing you and me like it's his own vibe Yeah. can't You can't recreate that.
Speaker: No, it's so untouchable. It is. It is. it ist it's it's ah It's a little work of art. It's untouchable like some kind of seething little, don't know, rash.
Speaker: Yeah. Untouchable. Yeah. does Season one. Don't go scratching in that. The rash. leave it leave it behind start another rush so yeah so next week I will be back with with with Amy but I'm going to start the the the outro music I think okay because here we go here we go here go Here we go. Press the button for the last time on this episode.
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Speaker: And you can also pick up a quill and email us at adhdville at gmail.com. But in the meantime, be fucking kind to yourself. And I beseech you fellow ADHDers, fare thee well with gladness of heart.
Speaker: oh there it there no That's that. That was nice. That was nice. There we go. That was it. We did it. We did it.
Speaker: Who knew that we would have a podcast one day and this was it? 143, is it? I think this is 144th episode. Right. That's a lot of episodes. Yeah.
Speaker: That's a lot of quality time, Paul. A lot of quality time. Quality time. All right. Goodbye, everyone. Goodbye.
