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Speaker: Back in the room. That was a bit high for me. Back in the back in ah room. Manly, manly, manly. Yeah, so here we go. ah Glad that you could you join us. And if you're new, hit that subscribe button.
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Speaker: Yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, there's dogs dancing and stuff.
Speaker: Oh, anyway, so yes, was getting distracted. Good Lord. Good Lord. That's never happened with ADHD before. What is going on?
Speaker: Anyway, my name is Martin. I was diagnosed with the combined ADHD poo-poo platter in 2013 and my pet, Rock Ralph, who is now dressed in a scarf.
Speaker: um ah thinks I have all think i have a to or to autism, but I'm not the only one. I'm not the only mayor running this beautifully weird town.
Speaker: Please welcome my co-mayor of ADHDville. My name is Amy. I'm the co-mayor along with my assistant, Jake.
Speaker: And I'm um slightly neurodivergent, highly sensitive, totally neurotic. My pet, Roxandra, is wearing a sweater that matches mine that says I'm cold from me 24-7.
Speaker: Because as I mentioned last week, I'm officially always cold now. Oh, you. Right. We, yeah you, you, you do have more interesting sweatshirts than i do. Last week, it was like, uh, uh, go to therapy. therapy Right.
Speaker: I think it's because I'm always cold. So I like to have a good assortment of different sweatshirts. Right. Yeah. Mine usually just say but my mind usually say ah Brooklyn.
Speaker: Listen, that's not a bad sweatshirt. Like four out of five just say Brooklyn on it. They do. Your sweatshirts do say Brooklyn. Yes. That's because I lived there. Oh, all right. For about 10 years or so or more. I love a sweatshirt that says Brooklyn.
Speaker: Right. Something cool about it. Right. But, you know, from the city that never sleeps comes the question, ah can you die of boredom?
Speaker: I am very excited to discuss this. I love this. Go ahead. What are your thoughts? Well, you know, like, so I've kind of looked into that. Plus, i've also I'm layering in and ah what it means if you suffer from anxiety or ADHD or autism or a bit of both.
Speaker: so canrise So it's kind of like a little bit skewed towards anxiety. us lot and the way our beautiful brains work so question is what's the point of boredom wait a minute before you dive in i i wonder if we're gonna have very different takes on this so you say how you feel because i have a very strong opinion on it on boredom right right right okay so what's the point of boredom okay so
Speaker: Imagine you are a hunter-gatherer 50,000 years ago. back in time. time Yeah. And you spent hours looking for berries.
Speaker: right I mean, that does sound like you could die of boredom doing that. Right, because like where can you plug your iPhone in? Yeah, right. Where's the TV for a little company?
Speaker: Right, you don't have nothing. Okay. you're You're hunting for berries in the same spot. There's nothing there. This is almost like the Paleolithic version of trying to hunt for so for snacks in your couch. What was that gorgeous word you just said?
Speaker: Paleolithic. Oh my God. What a beauty. I love a good word. That's like 50, I think 50,000 years ago, it was like the middle or the upper Paleolithic era. So yeah, that's when our little stone age, you know, ancestors were yeah running around.
Speaker: Right. Um, hunting for stuff and if they couldn't find anything there that was their brain going just abandon that thing and go and look elsewhere so your brain created but but the uncomfortable feeling of being bored because you weren't getting what you wanted from, know, you weren't finding any berries there. go that is so somewhere else. Interesting.
Speaker: whoa i think that is really interesting our brains created boredom. It's almost like the reason we experience pain.
Speaker: You know how there are like some people who like don't experience pain and they're all their hands are burned and whatever, like because it's it's signaling something. So it sounds like it's the same with boredom.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. It has a purpose. Wow. Right. It has a purpose. Right. But the modern day version of that, you know we we can just go and get our berries down at Aldi.
Speaker: whole food cover yeah What was yours? Aldi's? Aldi's? Yeah. It's like a sort of... ah it's more it's It's come over to the States, I believe, but it's it's more prevalent in the UK and Europe.
Speaker: It's like a sort of a cheap... ah food supermarket i was gonna say has their produce is it cheap good or cheap cheap I can't I can't attest to to that i I'm not even sure that they do do fresh stuff um they might do I don't know basically we can go down to the deli we don't have to die of boredom to pick our berries No, the way we we don't. So, like, if you go up to the middle, no, the modern era, h you know, so we're, you know, so I think about boredom. Boredom isn't having nothing to do because there is always something to do, right?
Speaker: Okay. It's... it's it's For me, it it is like wanting something that your brain can in in that your brain can engage in because nothing quite hits the spot. So you can be there. You can sit there with loads of tasks that you need to do yeah around you, but nothing is making your brain interested in any of it.
Speaker: And it just kind of sits in this uncomfortable feeling of being bored. now was What was your ah take? I have a really strong opinion on boredom.
Speaker: OK. It's very interesting we're talking about this today because um i was driving Sean to the train this morning and I was just saying to him out of the blue, i said, you know what? i am so happy I'm with someone who always has a lot of stuff to do because – I would find it very unappealing if you were ever bored. And I think that's because growing up, my mother was always like, don't ever say you're bored.
Speaker: But that doesn't mean that I'm like doing crazy stuff. I mean, I literally can watch TV for eight hours and I'm not bored. I just find it such an unappealing quality when someone is bored. I remember dating someone and he was always like, I'm bored. And I was like, bye, you're not for me. i just feel like, like, there's no reason to be bored. Do whatever you want to do. Watch tv um read a book, whatever, do a puzzle. I don't know. But I just feel like, I think it is, I really, i it gives me the ick.
Speaker: when someone says they're bored. So on a date, yeah someone was across from you and said, Amy, I'm bored.
Speaker: Oh my God, I would die of embarrassment. That was not how it happened. and Someone was like, we're on a date and I'm bored. No, i was I went on a couple of dates with him and um whenever we would like communicate over text or whatever, like during the week, let's say, and I'd be like, hey, how's your day? He would just be like, I'm bored over and over again. I'm bored, I'm bored. And I was just like, it first of all, it puts pressure on me. Am I supposed to entertain you?
Speaker: Like, ah you could like, it's so unattractive. And like, and even like, now I live with someone, neither of us have ever said I'm bored to each other, whether or not we're together or separate, like in the house, meaning like he's watching his own movie and I'm doing my thing. Like, I don't know. i just, am I being, um i just, am I unreasonable? Like, am I? I just find it, I really, it's like a real,
Speaker: hot button for me or something like don't be bored figure out something to do you're not five years old i don't know am i wrong no I don't think so and i think the research carries will back you up so oh there was some there was ah there' some there was some British research 2010 who and ten a who and they produced a nice paper called Bored to Death was their title. And they studied about 7,500 British civil servants, which is like sort of lower government... Well, no, it's just government jobs, basically. And they asked how bored they felt...
Speaker: Oh, at work. At work. Oh, no. Okay, go. What was it And then they followed these people for about 20 years and they saw what they whether they whether the people who were said that they were bored died more often than the ones who said that they weren't bored.
Speaker: And the ones that were bored died more often? Yeah, so the finding was was that people reporting high levels of boredom were more likely to die during that 20-year follow-up period. what do you think that's a ah What do you think that's about? I feel like that's about, i don't know, I don't want to get too woo-woo, but i I think that's about your spirit, like not being stimulated.
Speaker: Right. Well, don't I mean, if I'm going to stick to the research paper here, what they yeah the the catch was that the study couldn't prove that boredom killed these people, but they were more likely to be depressed.
Speaker: they They may have more other health effects. health stuff they may have social circumstances yeah and and that could explain some or all of the reasons so you know so it feels like boredom might be dangerous but it it's probably more like a sign that something else is kind of going on it's like a symptom almost because to me that makes sense like if you're Like there are some people, do you ever go into like, I don't know, like a store that not a lot of people ever frequent and you see the the same person working in there for however long, however many years. And I always think this must be really boring.
Speaker: Is it depressing? Well, if it's depressing and the person's depressed, you know, there's research that that could lead to health issues. Like I feel like it's sort of all filters down, right?
Speaker: it it Honestly, i feel like it depends. I think you could be have a very have a very low level, I call it low level, but a very rep repetitive job.
Speaker: Yeah. And still that can be quite an in in that can be quite interesting. yeah So I used to work at a grocery store and I would put...
Speaker: and know ah when when I when I was getting myself through through k college and i would go after college and I would stack beans on shelves and it was very repetitive, but I really liked it.
Speaker: Why did you like it? Because I liked the rip the repetitiveness of it. I didn't have to think about it. It was just like empty beans, go and get more beans, put beans in whole.
Speaker: yeah was And my mind could just do way more interesting things in my head while my body did did you know quite basic boring things. Right, right. Oh, I think that's so interesting. And and then someone gave me money. at the Right, right.
Speaker: Now, I think for someone, i think for me, i wouldn't like that because i think i I thrive when I like interact with people more. So I feel like i I find that more stimulating, whereas some other people might find that like stressful. Right.
Speaker: Maybe you, I don't know, maybe you would find that trustful and that's why it's more enjoyable to like stack the beans. I think it just depends on your personality type. Right. Yeah.
Speaker: So yeah there is a, speaking of personality types, there was this fun little experiment. So for example, would you rather sit in an empty room for an hour with nothing to do Okay.
Speaker: Or receive one mildly painful electric shock. Oh, my God. ah so yeah it's a No question. I'd rather sit in the room. What about you?
Speaker: Right. I think I would probably just sit in the in in in the room. But, I mean, there was a scientific a experiment in 2014 where we had a bunch of people that would sit in a room without much to to do. But there was something that you could do.
Speaker: You could give yourself an electric shock. Right. So in order not to be, but is right, would I rather be bored or because I need something to do and the only option is to shock myself, I'll shock myself. Right. And the genuinely surprising finding for the for the re researchers was that there was a substantial minority of people who did, who would who who who who would give themselves an electric shock just to kind of not be bored. Right.
Speaker: I mean, is that horrifying? I find that so horrifying. Like, learn to be with your thoughts. Learn to be with your thoughts. If the choice is be alone with my thoughts or shock myself and you choose to shock yourself, I think you need to go to therapy. I mean, am I wrong? That's insane.
Speaker: I mean, ah an ADHD brain, can see, would be like, hmm, what would happen if I did? I mean, okay, look, I know I am i am i am eating up time with with this story, I can remember when I was like seven years old, hu I got on a chair. This happened more than once.
Speaker: got on a chair and then ah I unscrewed the light bulb from the i from the light, ah the overhead light, and I would stick my finger in the empty
Speaker: Suck it. because And what happens? Because there was a tingly feeling that I thought was very interesting. Did it hurt? No, it was just a tingly feeling. i No one do this, okay? no Don't try this at home. Don't try this at home.
Speaker: I'm surprised that I am alive. But do you see the difference? The difference is you were a seven-year-old child who was curious and like didn't know anything. This can be forgiven. You're not like an adult who who isn't mature enough to sit and like just be with your thoughts. And so you're going and giving yourself a shot.
Speaker: That's insane. I mean, that's insane, Martin. I think the seven-year-old is okay. By the way, I'm curious what that feels like. Oh, no. yeah But I'm not going to do it. But i'm not going to do it. Right. Because i'm not seven.
Speaker: Right. Okay. Right. I'm just going to have to whip through yeah the the rest of this. Okay. So I'm just going to bullet point from this point on. with So if you're talking about anxiety, the like...
Speaker: Can you be, like this is this was the first thing I thought of, can you be bored when your brain doesn't shut up? Right? yeah Interesting. So I think that's a question for...
Speaker: You, like like, do you get, do you, like, if you if you have a lot of anxiety, can can you still get bored and yeah and and have anxiety at the same time when your brain's, like, running?
Speaker: I don't think one has to do with the other. i Like, I don't think, I can, let's say, I'm sitting at home. I've watched all my shows. I've read all my books, whatever. And I'm like searching for something to do.
Speaker: My like crazy thoughts or whatever is bothering me will not entertain me. Like, ah yeah, I don't, I don't think, I think I can still be bored and now I'm just bored.
Speaker: And I'm hostile because now I'm bored and all my like annoying voices in my head are bothering me. It's like a lose-lose. I don't know. What do you think?
Speaker: don't know because I was i was wondering like can you like so say you're watching a film right but you're not fully engaged in it because you're because your mind's like worrying about something else. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: So you're not really enjoying the film. Right. And your ah your attention keeps sort of worrying about something else. So you're anxious and you're bored at the same time.
Speaker: I mean, ah that's terrible. Right. Yeah. That's terrible. So. Right. So in in that situation, it it kind of feels like for an anxiety. So in in in order to enjoy the thing that you're doing, you just have to kind of sort of sort of just kind of sort of do things that make you feel safe and calm.
Speaker: Right. So that you can then enjoy something and not be caught in this weird no man's world. but Yeah, yeah, yeah. I totally agree with you. Yeah. Next up, can you die of boredom with ADHD? You see, the thing is is that i I can see where we get into trouble here because because if you have ADHD, you don't like being bored, right? Sure, yes. And you will do anything, including shocking yourself.
Speaker: Yeah. to kind of like do something. So I can, so you will do risky, you you will get into risky behaviors and do crazy things, which, you know, could,
Speaker: you know, good dare you know could dare you could end up underliving yourself just by because you were bored. Because you're bored. Well, then you literally will die of boredom because you were so bored that you electrocuted yourself.
Speaker: The cause of death there is partial boredom. Right, right. So, i mean, so, and then I will we' whip onto autism because that's a very different thing. and the And the interesting thing is, is that from the outside, know, someone who's who's doing a very,
Speaker: um it can look like what someone is doing is very, very boring. Right. But, But it looks boring from the outside, but actually when you're that person doing that thing, it is like you are in – it is great. You love that very systematic um ah good predictable process. It's like I can remember seeing –
Speaker: I think it was whatever the studio was that was doing Game of Thrones, I think they famously hired autistic people to work in the video editing.
Speaker: Why? That's so interesting. Because and they interviewed one guy, and now and he was working on one of the main characters, Jon Snow. He was outside, and he had to edit out most of the snowflakes that went that that went ah went across his face. Not all of them, but like most of them.
Speaker: I mean, how tedious is that? It's like the looking for the berries. Yeah. It is a very, very tedious task. Oh, that's horrifying. Okay. um you Right. You could think of as, like, very, very boring, but to that aut aut autistic guy, he was like, yeah, this is great.
Speaker: I love this. Isn't that amazing? You could just sit there in this darkened room and just edit out snowflakes for, like, days and days and days. I mean, like, something like that makes me just feel so happy that, like,
Speaker: different people that I'm just so grateful that in this world, there are different people for different things. Like I always think of overnight people, people who work overnight shifts.
Speaker: I'm just like, I remember in, in our old building in the city where Sean and I lived, the nighttime doorman was so cool. I'm like, you're too cool to be like a nighttime doorman. Like, what do you mean? Like, Like, I don't get it. He was the coolest guy. And he was just like, i just am a nocturnal person. and I'm just like, I'm so grateful that there are people like that who can do these jobs. So someone like me, for example, who doesn't want to work at night, doesn't need to worry about that.
Speaker: You know what I mean? I just think that's really cool. Yeah. But um what I'm not saying is...
Speaker: is autistic people still get bored. it isn't like It isn't like they don't get bored. Of course. You're human. He is very... Very loud.
Speaker: He is. he's He's getting involved. very He's getting very involved. He's been loud for the past two days, this dog. So I guess what is the conclusion? guess we have some evidence that says that boredom is being bored is associated with poor outcomes for all the kinds of reasons that we said. Yeah, basically.
Speaker: and that And that people will do crazy things to escape it, but we don't have evidence that boredom itself directly kills you. But i think that date example that you said is is good because it kind of, it's like a little red flag. If if if if someone just says that they're bored all the time,
Speaker: Yeah, it's there's something else going on there. There is. There is. Very unattractive. Right. So, you know. Agree. Boredom doesn't kill you, which is probably good news for anyone who's ever sat through double maths on a Friday at school.
Speaker: Oy vey. Because like that was the place that I was like, probably the most bored I've ever been in my life is at school. But again, lessons there are people who like me. I work with someone who...
Speaker: The joy that this person takes in like math is the joy I have for TV shows. Goodbye. And by the way, what I remember being really bad at math and saying to myself, well – at least there will always be, it'll always be the same. Like one and one will always equal two and blah, blah, blah. And then maybe like six years ago, I worked with someone who had two kids and they were learning math and it, and math has changed, which to me makes me so angry. Like there's no, do you know this? You don't carry the numbers anymore.
Speaker: do you know about this? No, because don't do kids homework anymore. and you right and know you know, if you're adding and subtracting it in school, you learn carry the one or whatever.
Speaker: They do it. Oh, God, I'm so happy I'm not in school anymore. They do it in a crazy way now where you draw like circles and you cross the circles out. And it's like it's it's a whole you're like drawing.
Speaker: it's It's completely different. And it just makes me so angry because I'm like, I don't know why it makes me angry. But I just I get so angry with math because I hate it. I don't understand it. And now you're making it more complicated for these poor the kids.
Speaker: Well, look, look, I I can make it simpler for you, Amy. Use a calculator. Numbers, yeah. No, no, no, no. Well, yes, yes. But there is only one number, and it's the number one.
Speaker: There are no other numbers because the number two is just two number ones.
Speaker: There's just one number. That's it. Wait, are you is this your is this your theory or is this a fact? No, it's a fact. Who says? says? I could... i couldn't i couldn't Yeah, like someone says this?
Speaker: Oh, see? yeah I get so agitated when we talk about this. I turn into like another person. I'm sorry. I get so mad. I just i really... i i it was so Math was so hard for me. I cry i would cry. And of long division. Did you have to do long division? Yes.
Speaker: I would do long division, and I remember my father trying to help me, and even he was like, i don't know how to do this. like It's really hard. And it was just... it and then You get to seventh grade and they're like, here's a calculator. Like what? Why was I learning how to do all this stuff?
Speaker: And now you're telling me could use a calculator? Oh my God. I remember sitting in Mr. Charton's math class on the first day of school and he said, you could use calculators. And I was like, are you out of your fucking mind? I spent all this time. Yeah. Like what?
Speaker: Oh, it makes me so mad. I don't use math. Now they have Excel. I mean, I could really go on a thing. It's so dumb. Actually, i was having brunch last weekend with um your wife and some of our child-free friends, and we were saying...
Speaker: in high school, instead of math or sort of as like a a substitute for math, they should teach um finances because that Right. All right. Next topic. I think as I mean, when, when, when I got a calculator at school, obviously you would type in five, eight, zero, zero, eight, and then hand it to your, to your mate and turn up. your yeah Yeah.
Speaker: Oh, that was it. That was the end of that story. Yes. Okay. The end of that story. Right. Moving on. Yeah. What you got? I mean, like we. We'll talk about my stuff next week. All right.
Speaker: Right? Let's just go to Am I Being Unreasonable because this is a fun one. I Being Unreasonable? All right. Oh, little speech shift.
Speaker: It's Martin to read it out. am so excited about this one. Who wrote in, Martin? It's Trisha. That would be my wife. It's his wife.
Speaker: Right. The lovely, curly-haired, blonde Trisha. I was, a yes. So I was given this, I picked it up this morning. All right. So it she says.
Speaker: Wait, wait, wait. I have to say, yeah the way she wrote it was a little complicated. So Tricia, if you're listening, I i tried to condense it a little bit. I'm going to put some emphasis in this.
Speaker: Okay, great. Right. So, it is to arrive if I have to meet you at 1pm for a reservation, do not text me at noon wanting to know if I can meet you at 12.30 instead. No!
Speaker: i can't meet you at 12.30. That's when I'm leaving to meet you. If you'd caught me earlier... In the morning, okay.
Speaker: But as a neurodivergent person with time blindness, I use urgency to to assure that I get somewhere on time, meaning I'm not getting ready until right before I have to leave. This is absolutely true.
Speaker: Like I've been going, are you ready to leave? And then she's like literally like... just come out of the bathroom oh having a shower and say, yeah, I'm almost there. I'm like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. um so So she's saying that she's mapped it all out. I've just stepped out of the shower. Yes, so exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not prepared to meet you half an hour early. Is Tricia being unreasonable?
Speaker: Hold on. Over to you. Applause for that for that reading. That was beautiful. There was light and shade to it. And I loved every second of it. um i She's being reasonable.
Speaker: i think I had this like experience when I was little and it really changed my opinion of showing up early because I feel like people think showing up late is the rude thing.
Speaker: But when I was little and I never forgot this, I was like nine. um We were going to my aunt and uncle's for Thanksgiving and we were early. and ah I had an older sister and she said to my mom, we're early. Like we we were like early, like half an hour, 15 My sister said, we can't go in.
Speaker: We're early. And my mom was like, so? and my sister was like, it's not nice to go in early. This is the first I'd ever heard of this. My mom was like, I really don't care. Let's go in.
Speaker: She rings the doorbell. My aunt was hisssed Like she didn't say anything, but she was, it was maybe 15 minutes early when you're kind of like, like Trisha, like you're getting out of the shower. She was like putting the finishing touches on stuff. She was in our bathroom. She's running around. She wasn't ready yet.
Speaker: And she was very angry and I never forgot it. And because of that, I never show up early. If I'm meeting someone and I'm there early, i don't say I'm early because I assume like Trisha, like what if they're still on their way and they're scrambling?
Speaker: Just chill the f*** out and wait until the designated time. Again, don't be bored. Scroll on your phone. Read your book. You can entertain yourself until it's time to meet the person.
Speaker: that's my That's my thought. What say you? Yeah. don't Don't change plans on me. I know. just just Just don't. The thing is, I know i will, because I'm such a Philippine people pleaser, i will I will try and accommodate that that person, sometimes unnecessarily and to my detriment,
Speaker: and then I'll end up scrambling around You know, ah yeah, I mean, that's when I will jump out of the shower and then I'm literally grabbing clothes and I do not know, like nothing will match, right?
Speaker: It will just be like a complete chaos. And I'm running out of the house and I'm still haven't dried myself and I'm wet and I'm going to catch pneumonia and die.
Speaker: You know, that... that stuff Yes, and and we don't want that. don't want that. Now, dare I say, the person... saying can you meet me early is being a little selfish because they're not really considering your time and the way you've scheduled right like your morning. Right.
Speaker: So that's also kind of like, I don't really like that. That's where you should have good boundaries. Yeah. sometimes I don't. Yeah.
Speaker: All right. What's the verdict? Trisha, I think you're being reasonable. Absolutely. Totally reasonable. All right. Also, what i found oh um what I'm really enjoying about about my mic, I mean, if you if you're watching on YouTube, I've got my microphone in front of me, but then just in the background, there is there is a lamp, right? So that it looks like the end of my microphone is glowing, which is kind of giving this podcast, like everything I'm saying is like, It's like godlike. You should have it. You should sit in that exact spot with this exact lighting all the time. It's very ethereal. It is it is now going to be a thing.
Speaker: should be. is now going to be a thing where I'm going to try and get this lighting set up in such a specific way. Yeah. ah So I'm enjoying that. Right, right, right. And and I'm kind of, but um I'm playing with it a little because i because because because if I lean in, you get this nice lens flare, right? Yes.
Speaker: And then when you say something really like meaningful, you could slowly pull away and the light will. And then the whole kind of, yeah, it's yeah it's it' it's it's a nice little little thing for my ADHD brain to that up to play with. Yeah.
Speaker: All right, should we go to the post bag? We should. that's so weird. I love that. It's so weird.
Speaker: I love the post bag sound. Post bag. Post bag. Thank you. I think I prefer your version, to be honest. ah All right. ah Deputy Mayor Alexandra.
Speaker: Alessa, who, yeah I've just remembered, likes maths. She is one of these people who really likes maths. Well, good for you, Alexandra. See how angry I get?
Speaker: I turn into, like, a different person. I don't know. I think it's because I feel like i can't you're smarter than me and it makes me angry, but, like, I'm smart in other ways, too, just not the math way. Like, I just feel like i like my defense is gone.
Speaker: I mean, I won't speak for Alexandra, but I would strongly suspect that she would say, no, she's she' not inherently smarter than didn' you. As you say, you're just smarter in different Different ways. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: You know, and that's what, I mean, that's what I, that's that's one thing, oh, that's one thing that I really like and amazing. finding people who are smarter at stuff than I am Right.
Speaker: And then asking them a bunch of questions, like just kind of being in in the room with them. I mean, so for example, I did them last year, and people will ah may remember this I went to a watercoloring class recently Oh, lovely.
Speaker: That was local. i thought, oh, let's go and do something different. And I went in there and it quickly became apparent that I was the best person there.
Speaker: Get out! which oh Wait, I'm not surprised because you have't you're the creative side for sure. I am. I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And everyone was like, oh, Marty. oh my um you know And every every every time I put something down on the water curry, everyone was like, ooh, ooh. What an ego boost. No, well.
Speaker: Or no. Yeah. See, i I was going to the class to learn something. And when you're yeah equal to the teacher or possibly even better. Yeah. and odd it's I'm not learning much.
Speaker: Yeah. i I want to be the worst person there. So that there's a room full of really talented people that I can go, whoa, how did you do that? How did you do how did you get that colour? How did you, like, wow I can learn something from these people. They're all learning from me.
Speaker: And that's... So I never went back because it's the wrong way round. I would go back every day and twice on Sunday because that ego boost would make me feel so happy. Don't know what that says about me, but that's how I feel. well know I mean, like, like obviously.
Speaker: ah But you weren't learning, and that's ah right. yeah I'm sure you had a little bit of, like, oh, not bad. Yeah, I was like, oh, okay, yeah, this is is cool, this is cool. But but it's like, ah yeah, but but this that's not why I'm here.
Speaker: Right, right. No, that makes sense. Anyway, anyway, on yeah um on with the Deputy Mayor Alexandra. So last week were we were talking about um do we secretly sniff each other? And after i picked out a couple of things from her lovely, lovely ah comment. And anyway, if you're listening to this, jump in the comments wherever you're you hear you're hearing this. and just even Even if it's just a thumbs up.
Speaker: You don't have to write anything mad. Just go, that was good. Or that was crap. Anything. Anything. Either one. Just an exclamation mark. We're happy to hear from you. Anyway, so up I picked out a couple of things about about smell.
Speaker: She says, i i also remember when my grandma was hugging me, I was always sniffing her like I do with most people when i when i like them.
Speaker: Oh, that's nice. Yeah. And she says that I often sniff myself, my clothes, my sheets, my pillows, especially blankets, books, food to see if I want to eat it. And in general, lots of stuff.
Speaker: of stuff I'm like a hound. I mean, she is a chef as well. so um Right. i wonder if she likes, you know, I like a good, bad smell.
Speaker: Like if something, if there's like a rotten container of Chinese food, let's say, in my refrigerator that's been in there for two weeks and i haven't thrown up, I'll smell it. And then I'm like, oh and I'm grossed out, but I'll smell it anyway.
Speaker: i don't know why. That's like the electric shock in the room. I know. i know. But it's less painful, but it still is like it can make you gag, but I do it anyway.
Speaker: Oh, I love this. Yeah, I like a good bad smell. Oh, im i'm i am i' am i am I am now fascinated by that. um We will have to come back to that. Next time there's something, not milk, because I feel like that could really make you like throw up if you smell bad milk. But Martin, next time there's something in your refrigerator that's old, take a whiff.
Speaker: Okay. All right. I am i am This has got me very excited. It's horrifying. You're going to be grossed out, but I don't know. I can't resist.
Speaker: I'm going be Googling the hell out of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. so they And then lastly, she says, ah I have my grandpa's but binoculars and i frequently so so and I frequently sniff them because they remind me of him.
Speaker: Oh, that's sweet. I know. That's really sweet. That's really sweet. That's nice. Yeah. Actually, you know what? just Just briefly, when I used to... My... my graham grandpa, my grandma used to have a pug, right? Pugs run in our family.
Speaker: They have been in our family for like decades and decades and and decades. Yes, Little Eddie. Your Little Eddie a pug. So we we are we are four generations of pug owners. Okay. um And it wasn't until I got a pug, right, that and then when I washed Eddie, the pug, and dogs have a sort of a smell when you wash them. Yep.
Speaker: um that I realized that when I went around my grandparents' house, it smelled of wet pug. So what must have happened is when they knew we were coming around, they bathed their dog, their pug, just before they went around. And that's why the house smelled like that. It always smelled like they just were washed their dog. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: And then lastly, Nyssa on TikTok, um when we talk about names, talk about do you look like your name? She says, I i don't really um look like my name, but so many people refer to me as Lala or another old alternative name,
Speaker: depending on when i when it was in my life. Which is like, do you have like, have you ever been given like a nickname or a yeah version of your name? And then someone from your past like goes, oh, hey, you know. Yes.
Speaker: it's It's heartwarming. Ah, yeah. ah Don't you think? No, she was saying the same thing, that that that that it that it felt comforting. It warms your cuckles. That's what she always says. Yeah, it makes you, right? Has that happened with you?
Speaker: i I tend to panic more than feel heart heart warm because it because it feels like an and an old version of me being kind of cooled up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. i know. no that makes sense.
Speaker: I see that. I see that. um Okay, we had someone else write a lovely email. Her name is Tanya. I'll read her email. I'll read parts of it. All right.
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Speaker: um But this makes me want to, if I see something I like, it makes me want to comment because it feels really good. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I thought that was lovely.
Speaker: does. All right. So let's, ah I think we should wrap up. wrap up i might have to cut out five minutes out of this well we have a special episode where we may be doing but we could talk about that next week too hey end on a high note right like george from seinfeld he liked to to leave the room on a high note so let's end on a high note cool all right and then uh to tara also known as alex who' a job whose job uh job
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