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The History of Baphomet
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Happy Halloween boos & ghouls! 👻
We are thrilled to throw on our costumes and rip the shiny wrapper off on our spooktacular October series, featuring deep dives on specific spooky topics related to the history of All Hallows’ Eve! 🎃
In Part 2 of this month-long series, Felicia dives deep to depths of hell to uncover the history of Baphomet! This goat-headed Pagan deity may be seen as a demon by some - associated with the devil, satanists, and every Metal band ever - but it is actually a symbol of balance in various occult and mystical traditions. Listen to hear more about its origin dating all the way back to the 1300s as well as his many depictions in modern pop culture as well.
We hope you enjoy these hair-raising Halloween episodes in October! Stay tuned for more tricks & treats and in the meantime: reach out to us on Instagram at @sinistersisterspodcast if you have more topic ideas for us to cover!
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Introduction & Fall Vibes
00:00:12
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Welcome to the Sinister Sisters podcast. I'm Felicia. I'm Lauren. We're best friends. And we like spooky stuff. And here we are in our second week of October. Are you feeling the fall vibes yet?
00:00:26
Speaker
I am. Unfortunately, it's 85 degrees in Dallas still. I know. We actually had some good fall weather. It did get very rainy. So that was unfortunate. But it was the correct weather for like a sweatshirt and a jeans and a jacket. And that was that was nice. I'm so jealous. I like I pulled out my hot coffee to have like pumpkin spice hot coffee this morning.
00:00:54
Speaker
Oh, I was sweating drenched in sweat. You're going to have to get the ice. I know.
Halloween Treats & Trick-or-Treating Memories
00:01:00
Speaker
You know what's so good, though, is the Starbucks pumpkin. Is it just a cold brew? The pumpkin. Oh, yeah. That is fire. That is so good. I almost like it better than a pumpkin spice latte because it's like I think I do light. It's more and it's also more coffee. Yes. Yeah. Not just like a frappuccino. Not just a frappuccino.
00:01:24
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, actually, I mean, we're talking about recommendations, but if we're already talking about food, we thought that this week we could talk about our favorite Halloween candy very briefly. And I think we have the same one, actually, that would be boring. Probably. What's yours? Is it Reese's? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:01:47
Speaker
Although I do love, I was going to say, did you say it cut out right when you said it? You said Reese's Pieces, right? No. Oh, the pumpkins. Yeah. And I said Reese's because like I say Reese's, but I do say Reese's sometimes. I say Reese's other times, but I always say Reese's Pieces, which I know is wrong, but I can't stop and I won't stop.
00:02:09
Speaker
I can't say Reese's Pieces. No. Who would say it? A monster. Reese's Pieces. I love that. There's Reese's Pumpkins. Oh yeah. Oh my gosh, they're so good. The Reese's Pieces are also the best movie theater candy in my opinion. I totally agree. I still feel like there's a part in me that
00:02:35
Speaker
I don't know. I said this the other day that regardless of what candy it is, for some reason still having a full-size candy bar still gives me the thrill of when you got it in your trick-or-treating basket. You're a full-size candy bar.
Trader Joe's Seasonal Hits & Misses
00:02:53
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That's so sick. So even a Hershey's, I'm still delighted. Just a big old Hershey's chocolate bar.
00:02:59
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That's so true. And honestly, I don't think we treat ourselves to a big Hershey's bar often enough. Like I feel like I'm always like, I eat them like the many ones that they're being given out. Like why am I not buying myself full size chocolate bars?
00:03:15
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when I go to the store like that. You know what I do get though sometimes is the bag of the dark chocolate thin Reese's. Those are those are really nice. I will I will just straight up buy those and be like these are just my snack.
00:03:31
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Oh, my gosh. They're so good. Did you have you ever had the Trader Joe's like? Yes, and they're like peanut butter cups. Yeah, so good. They're great. They're so I did my I did do my Trader Joe's pumpkin haul. I didn't go quite as crazy as last year. What did you get? What is I got top top couple? Yes. Top couple items. I got pumpkin spice coffee and then I got pumpkin ravioli. Oh, that sounds good. Butternut squash soup.
00:04:01
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Oh, I got that same soup. So good. And then the autumnal pasta sauce I got too. They are autumnal. Do you get the apple cider donuts? Those are my fav. I normally do. I didn't this time, but they're really good. I'm not a huge donut person, but those are so good. It's really the best. And I got a little pumpkin.
00:04:29
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Oh, nice, nice. Oh, I also, I got the, this is also Trader Joe's, the pumpkin shaped pasta. Oh, wait, I did too. Oh, did you already cook it?
00:04:40
Speaker
No, uh-oh. Okay, it cooks a little odd to me because the structure of the pumpkin doesn't really want to hold together. So it kind of ends up being a lot of smashed pumpkins. Oh, no. I thought they looked so cute. They are cute, and they taste like pasta. They don't taste like anything other than
Podcast Feedback & Recommendations
00:05:03
Speaker
pasta. Anything special. And so I did eat them, and I'm going to keep eating them because that's my favorite food. But I will say they don't hold their shape
00:05:10
Speaker
Like they kind of break apart. I should have known. But can you imagine if they didn't break apart and you could stuff them with little bits of mozzarella? Yes, a little bit cheese, a little ricotta. What is this podcast? What are we talking about? People love it. Do they? Who? One time. Oh, actually, I'll say thank you. Now I looked on our
00:05:34
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I never look at our Apple podcast reviews because when we first started, we begged a couple of our friends to put reviews so that it looked like somebody had listened to our podcast. And now there's actually reviews on there and they're very nice. There aren't any one stars? I don't think so.
00:05:53
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No, they were all very kind. I was like, wow. They were talking about ricotta. It was super boring and not even spooky. Oh, OK. All right. We spent enough time on the food. Yes, let's move to recommendations. What do you got? So I have been watching pretty much nonstop and it's still painful for me to do so.
True Crime Content: Impact & Ethics
00:06:16
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The Jeffrey Dahmer TV show. OK, I want to hear because I got through the first
00:06:21
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two episodes and I had to stop because what is that feeling I'm feeling when I'm watching it? It's like almost too much. I am so disturbed. And it's not really in a fun way. No. It's zero fun. We forced ourselves to finish it.
00:06:41
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it. I don't know what to say. I said this to one of my co workers where I was like, I like, I just don't know why I like, I don't know. It's like, I'm not a gay man. Like it feels very distant, like too real, sort of. But it's like, you know that it happened. And it was so f'd up. Yeah, that it's just so real, like realistic in terms of the acting. Yeah, it's like,
00:07:07
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Oof, it's heavy. And you know what? And it should be, because it's heavy material. Obviously serial killer things shouldn't be fun, because they're about serial killers. But I don't know. It was so much heavier than I expected it to be, which I know makes no sense. No, I agree. You know the Ted Bundy movie? It's filmed a little with fun. There is no fun in the Dahmer.
00:07:33
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And it's also not like, like I feel like I watch a lot of like true crime or like Dateline or like, you know, things that are like actually what happened. And for some reason it's just like, I don't know. I think it's because like, I don't know. I've read a lot about like, there's a lot of online backlash because they didn't talk to the victim's families ahead of it, which I do find really like, especially later. I don't want to like, I don't know if spoilers is even the right word because it all happened, but like,
00:08:02
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There's a scene in the courtroom where a lot of the victim's family speak that's like they use their exact words in the Netflix show. And I'm like, I think that would bother me. I don't know if that was me in court using my own words and then they just put it in the show.
00:08:24
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especially thinking about the amount of people making their livings and profiting off of something so horrible and then using your traumatic experience and you're not getting any money for it. I don't know if that is pretty...
00:08:41
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I think the other thing that was so unsettling to me is how many times he was almost caught like for some reason that also makes it so much more disturbing to watch where you're just like it's not like he was flying under the radar and was really good. It's like there were multiple times that like people complain about the smell like like all this stuff that's like he should have been more paying attention.
00:09:08
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And it's like, I think it's like that perfect, I don't know. It's like so, it's obviously so upsetting too because it affected the gay community so strongly where it's like that again, it was like the AIDS pandemic, like anything like that, that it's just like, geez, people were literally just like, we don't want to deal with this, so we won't pay attention.
00:09:27
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And even Dom are being like, I'm going to kill these people because no one's going to miss them. I know some fucked up. Fucked up. So, so good. Yeah. But I got through it. And I do think Evan Peters performance is remarkable. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've never
Hocus Pocus: Sequel Disappointment & Original Charm
00:09:46
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seen him in anything and not fall in love with him. Yeah. Except for during this because I can't fall in love with Jeffrey Dahmer. But just as an actor, you know what I mean? Yes. I think he's so amazing.
00:09:57
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Oh, my God. And they do get to like the fan letters in jail part. And that's like, oh, it's like what's wrong with people? I don't know. That always freaks like the people that like write to serial criminals. I'm just like, what is that about for you? I don't know that. And they're in jail. Like, yeah, I don't know. It's crazy. All right. My recommendation is a much lighter note, but it was something I was pretty disappointed by. And I thought that I couldn't be disappointed by it. So it was shocking.
00:10:27
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And that was Hocus Pocus 2. Oh, yeah, me too. It's not what I thought. No, it didn't feel like they were improving.
00:10:43
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and took the best takes sometimes. I just felt, I don't know, the fact that they began, like they entered the scene, the three witches with the song, I was like, what? And that wasn't very good. And then it was just sort of, it felt like they didn't get a script and that they were just riffing based on their memory of the last movie.
00:11:05
Speaker
I agree. I don't know. And like the young girls were actually pretty good, I will say. Yeah, I was curious to say that. Yeah, like I felt like they were fine. It was fine. It just wasn't like I'm like, I feel like that was a pretty easy sequel to get right in certain ways because it's so beloved. Yeah, but somehow they it's not I didn't like it. I didn't enjoy it, which it was such a bummer.
00:11:35
Speaker
I also felt like it was just like, I don't know. I felt like Sarah Jessica Parker had like so many lines that I was like, I really don't think you were like a fleshed out character. Like you should have just stayed like a sidekick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Like, I don't know if it was the writing. I don't know if it was like, it felt kind of rushed. Like it felt like something that was thrown together, which I'm like, there's no way they threw together Hocus Pocus too. So how did this happen? And like kind of low budget, which was like, wait, why?
00:12:06
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Who directed it? Oh, I did look this up. She also choreographed it. Oh. Yeah, she was somehow involved as a female director. A director and choreographer. It was Anne Fletcher who you might know from directing the proposal.
00:12:31
Speaker
Choreographer, step up, okay. Yep, she seems like she's mostly a choreographer, which, you know, no shame, just interesting. Yeah, I just- Oh my gosh, she directed Dumplin', our fave. Oh my god, we love Dumplin'. Hmm, interesting. I just really like when they get Kenny Ortega to do it. I know, what's he doing? What, are you busy? You couldn't come through for us for Hocus Pocus 2? I don't understand.
00:13:00
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I also kind of felt like I wish I don't know. I was a little sad that they didn't ask any of like the kids or I know that was weird to me, too. It's kind of they did like the. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah. No, it just felt like why not? They are all available, I'm sure. Yeah, especially like I mean, Max. Oh, my gosh. People were in love with Max. Like, why was he not? And then Danny, I just don't understand. And Allison, I was still an actor.
00:13:30
Speaker
Yeah. Like what the heck? Like they could have done like a full reunion. Like what they should have done, obviously, is that Allison and Max ended up together. They had a child and now the child is being hunted by the Sanderson sisters. I agree. I mean, you're welcome, Disney. I just gave that to you and she wrote it.
00:13:53
Speaker
Oh, yeah. But yeah, I was one. Yeah, I got the like, I don't know. I also walk. We both, I think, walk like a very fine line of like, I like pro female feminist content. But like at the end, when she was like, I miss my sisters, I was like, what? When a friend would never. And oh, and like, I did. I understand they were trying to like humanize
00:14:20
Speaker
Win a friend and make them like, she's only evil because she had a bad childhood. And it's like, it's okay for witches just to be evil. Like it doesn't, it's okay. It's a kid's movie. Like I don't need it. I don't need the whole backstory. Backstory them as kids. Yeah, I just didn't need it. I don't know. Where was Max? I just, that's all I want to know. I know he's not really an actor anymore, but he could have- Still would have liked it. I still would have liked it.
00:14:50
Speaker
A little cameo, something. Yeah. And then the cat never talked. Nope. Sad. The cat came out and they were like, and they were like, oh, was that? And I know Binks died, but like I thought it wouldn't cool if at some point he was like, hello. I know. Another cat. In the last moments. I mean, I feel like I could have read this movie in like about 15 minutes. I agree.
00:15:16
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I agree. All right. Should we get into it? We should get into it. I'm excited about your topic today. I know very little. Me too. Yeah, it's similar to your Grim Reaper where it's like something you kind of know so well imagery wise, but like you don't know why it exists. So today I'm talking about Baphomet or just the
Baphomet: Symbolism & Misunderstanding
00:15:40
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idea of the goat as devil in
00:15:45
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you know, our culture and in movies and etc. So let's do this. Alright, Baphomet. So the first mention of Baphomet was actually during the First Crusades.
00:16:02
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And there was, in a letter, a warrior wrote that they thought, and this is just like, it's hilarious, honestly, they thought they heard the Turks who were going into battle yelling Baphomet, but most people think that they were actually yelling Muhammad. Oh my God. And it was just so many people, this person misunderstood. And so they were like, oh, what's Baphomet?
00:16:33
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So Baphomet became this like, and because they were like against the Turks, they of course made it into this dark thing that some kind of demon, like clearly this group is worshiping some kind of demon, whatever. And then in 1307, we're gonna move right along about 300 years to the next time it kind of comes up in history is actually by the Knights Templar.
00:17:01
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which you may know by the Holy Grail. Oh, there's those cats. So the Knights Templar were also known as the Poor Knights of Christ, and they were a religious military group that was established during the Crusades and became a really powerful force, but they didn't
00:17:28
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answer to a particular king or country, they answer to God. So countries were very intimidated by this ever growing powerful Knights Templar that could pretty much take any of them down if they wanted to. And by the way, this is not a history lesson and I am
00:17:54
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generalizing and exaggerating. I'm just telling a story, people. But this is, you know, this is the basics. So at a certain point, King Philip, the fourth of France, was really mad at the Knights Templar. And so he basically started this rumor that they were worshipping
00:18:19
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know, the devil in certain ways, but ultimately this figure of Baphomet. So after these accusations happened in 1307, King Philip pressured the Pope at the time, Pope Clement, to have many of the Knights Templar members in France arrested and tortured until they gave
00:18:44
Speaker
false confessions to worshiping Baphomet and other demons. And then those knights were burned at the stake. Yeah. But something that is pretty cool is that the Knights Templar actually still exists today. And it's probably like it was I think it was only disbanded once one time for like seven years or something. But it's like one of the oldest groups to like have ever ever existed. So.
00:19:12
Speaker
I just thought that was pretty cool. They've been around for like over a thousand years. And torturing to false confessions was happening so long ago too. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. But yeah, I just thought that was cool. Still around, still kicking. But there was never any sort of imagery around Baphomet until he was drawn for the first time and put into a book
00:19:40
Speaker
which was called Dogme et Ritual de la Hot Magi, which was published in 1861. And English is called Transcendental... What? Transcendental magic is doctrine and ritual. Which is like, that's a book I'm trying to read. Ye? I know.
00:20:05
Speaker
All right, so this Baphomet then became based on this drawing that we will post is in is the most known drawing of Baphomet became associated with this image of the sabbatic goat.
00:20:19
Speaker
So this book and drawing is by Elifis Levi, I think, who I think I'm saying his name right, who is French. And the imagery, and once again, you can pull this up on our Instagram, but I'm just going to describe it to you and kind of take you through each piece of it.
00:20:45
Speaker
So the first thing you'll notice is of course that the goat's head on what seems to be a human body with no big wings. Yeah. With big wings.
00:20:57
Speaker
And it's actually, even though it does look spooky, it is also kind of a beautiful image. And ultimately, what the image is supposed to symbolize is this idea of balance. And that is put into play in almost every part of the image. So
00:21:17
Speaker
So for example, it shows all the different elements on it, fire, water, air, and earth. The body is supposed to have male and female parts. It's supposed to, it has both crescent moons, the waning and the waxing moon. The front
00:21:42
Speaker
of the goat's head is wearing this thing on its forehead that is the pentagram and the pentagram
00:21:51
Speaker
I think is typically a sign of protection and it actually is later that people started turning the pentagram
Modern Use of Baphomet & Cultural Symbolism
00:22:01
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upside down and it also looks like a goat head and that became the dark version of that. So that's interesting. I feel like I've seen this picture now that I'm thinking about it but I'm not sure. You've definitely seen it.
00:22:18
Speaker
Let's see, the flame, it says here, the flame of intelligence shining between its horns is the magic light of universal balance. And the image of the soul is elevated above matter. So I don't know, it's actually a really, really cool image. Yeah, so that's, that's the Eli part of it. And then we're gonna skip ahead even further.
00:22:47
Speaker
Even further. Even further. And that is to Aleister Crowley, who was a I mean, he's done a lot. He did a lot of things, but ultimately he was an occultist that and I don't really know why, but I listened to something and I guess he's sort of controversial, but I can't remember why exactly.
00:23:11
Speaker
Maybe just because he's an occultist. Maybe. But he started using this image in his agnostic mass or black mass of Satanism.
00:23:28
Speaker
So I don't know if you have you seen the movie that's called I think it's it's about the satanic temple. It was on Netflix and it's about them putting up the statue of Baphomet. You don't know. You're not talking about Sabrina. No, no, it might have been Hulu. Hold on. Oh, it's Hail Satan question mark. Oh, I've definitely seen ads for that, but I never watched it.
00:23:56
Speaker
Yeah, it's actually a pretty cool documentary. And it's basically about the people associated with the Satanic temple, which is they're trying to put up this giant Baphomet to stand against people putting up religious statues in public
00:24:18
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places ultimately, where it's like if you're going to say freedom of religion, and if you're going to have to say to all, and basically proving how ridiculous it all is. So it's actually pretty cool. And the Church of Satan, or sorry, the Church of Satan, the Satanic Temple are two different things.
00:24:40
Speaker
So here's a quick rundown of the differences between the Satanic Temple, which is a newer organization founded in 2013, versus the Church of Satan, which is from like the 1960s. So the Satanic Temple is actually an officially recognized church.
00:25:01
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our government says it is. The Church of Satan is not. And neither of these religions believe in Satan. They don't actually base their practices around the idea of Satan, though the Church of Satan does believe in magic and the Satanic Temple does not. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, and the Satanic Temple is primarily
00:25:23
Speaker
The intention of it is to preserve and advance secularism and individual liberties. So what they, they're really about the separation of church and state. And so them putting up the Baphomet was like that, that the idea of doing that. More just like, yeah, F you and you're having religious statues, less like we worship the devil. Yes, absolutely. So, so yeah.
00:25:53
Speaker
So coming back now, so Alistair Crowley in the early 20th century put Baphomet into his agnostic mass. And it says here, so he wrote a bunch of books, this one being magic book four.
00:26:12
Speaker
And in that one, it says Baphomet was a divine and androgyne so like androgynous and hieroglyph of arcane perfection seen as that which reflects what occurs above so reflects below or as above so below. So
00:26:31
Speaker
That's also this idea of balance. And we see that in a lot of different religions and cultures and all of that. But ultimately, that's what Baphomet is all about. He also writes in this book, and this is a quote, the devil does not exist. It is a false name invented by the Black brothers to imply a unity in their ignorant muddle of dispersions. A devil who had any unity would be a god. The devil is historically
00:26:59
Speaker
the god of any people that one personally dislikes. It's kind of like hardcore. This serpent, Satan, is not the enemy of man, but he who made gods of our race, knowing good and evil, he bade know thyself and taught initiation. Yeah, so ultimately,
00:27:23
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Ultimately, I think what he's saying is there is no God, there is no devil. And to him, this idea of Baphomet means the union of opposites. So then we start to see it used in association with the satanic panic movement. And also particularly, it was taken on by counterculture groups such as like
00:27:51
Speaker
heavy metal bands and black metal. And this, not only the Baphomet image, but also the upside down pentagram, which is used in the it's actually the, the symbol of the satanic temple and the Church of Satan, this upside down pentagram goats head thing. So it got taken on a lot. And these things that felt very like devilish and spooky, and seemed
00:28:18
Speaker
and to back in the 80s with satanic panic, something to be feared, something that felt occultish and evil. So yeah, and then I guess in more recent news, the 2018 Netflix series, as you briefly mentioned, Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. So there is a giant bathement at the Academy of Unseen Arts.
00:28:43
Speaker
and the satanic temple tried to sue the show for using what they said was their personal depiction of Baphomet and it was settled out of court somehow. I feel like they, yeah, anytime it's settled out of court, I'm like, I bet they just paid them off. I mean, maybe not. Yeah, they just gave them money. Yep. That's right. And then the other one that I feel like we have to mention is Philip. Black Philip. Black Philip, yeah.
00:29:12
Speaker
Did you know, I wish I had it, the Black Phillip Funko Pop. Did you see that one? Oh yes, I have seen it. I thought that was so cute. So Black Phillip is from The Witch, Robert Edgar's The Witch from 2015, and is the devil on earth, Satan himself, in the form of a Black Billy Goat.
00:29:37
Speaker
Honestly, an icon. So scary when he's still a goat and then at the end when he transforms too. Yeah, absolutely. And then also I think there's parts in the Bible as well of like wanting, you know,
00:29:52
Speaker
God's sheep versus Satan's goats. So I think the imagery, you know, goes back and forth a long time. The imagery tends to repeat itself over and over again. And even when you think of like the devil having horns, think of Maleficent having those big ram horns. And Lauren and I actually went to a really cool talk
00:30:20
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years ago now. It was before the pandemic, I guess. Was it the meatball subs? Yeah, the meatball subs. When we went to this talk about the devil as depicted in pop culture, and he didn't specifically talk too much about the goat imagery that I
00:30:36
Speaker
remember, but there is always this like idea of like the horns that comes up a lot. And I don't know, it all just kind of gets mixed together into one pot, even though it's all kind of very different things that come from very different places. I think when people are looking for something to worship or something to hate, things just kind of get lumped together in this good versus bad versus what actually something means or comes from.
00:31:03
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And when you think back to the very first thing I told you, which is that the whole word of Baphomet was a mishearing of the word Muhammad. It is just like a dumb mistake. It's like, what does anything mean? I love that, that it started with that. Yeah. It doesn't seem to be anything that anyone
00:31:24
Speaker
thought really existed. It just kind of snowballed throughout centuries to be this devilish depiction, this demon that we've learned to love over time. I love that. That was my first thought when you were talking about the Bible stuff because that was a lot of my Sunday school learning was very, even the class that I took for several years is called
00:31:53
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the good shepherd. And so the like, Jesus watching over his sheep was like a big theme in all of my Catholic upbringing. And so yeah, like the idea that like goats are somehow like sheep gone wrong or like, you know, like the messed up version of sheep. Have you ever watched the videos of goats screaming? Oh my God, they're scary. That is unpleasant sound.
00:32:22
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There is something that sounds a little evil about that. Even Black Phillip in The Witch just living his life on the farm is just scary. Their eyes are these weird little slits or their pupils are scary.
00:32:38
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Yeah, and they like really like don't give a fuck like go. It's like I've met all I actually had a goat named after me once. Well, my my cousins raised have raised goats for many years. And so there was when they were little and I was the favorite cousin at the time they named one Felicia.
00:32:54
Speaker
I love that. I don't know what happened to Felicia the goat. Is Felicia alive? I'm not sure. But yeah, I don't know. It's an interesting thing how certain things become good and evil and some things you're supposed to be scared of and some things you're supposed to worship. Does any of it have meaning or have we just put meaning on these things? It's interesting thought.
Evolution of Cultural Symbols
00:33:19
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I know. And now it's like, I don't know, I think about like,
00:33:22
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the trickle down too of like, why would we want to aspire after being sheep and just like following along blindly and joining the herd? Well, and that's what religion is, right? That's actually the imagery because that's what they want you to do. But now all these conservatives saying don't be sheep. Don't be sheep unless you're going to follow me, in that case, be a sheep.
00:33:46
Speaker
I know. Man, it is so interesting. Maybe we should all want to be goats. Black Phillip. Yeah, Black Phillip the wind. But yeah, it's good stuff. It's good stuff. That's Baphomet. That's all I got for you today. That's it. Amazing. Thank you so much for that. I feel so much more knowledgeable about. I'm going to take that Mohammed thing into the world. Yeah.
00:34:14
Speaker
All right, well, that's it. So thank you all so much. And next week we'll have another episode led by Lauren on a very spooky topic.
Conclusion & Teaser for Next Episode
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And we hope you have some sweet, sweet nightmares. Bye.