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134. From Law to Light: Lindsey Mazza on Embracing Spiritual Purpose After Adversity
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In this episode of the Spiritual Fitness podcast, host Eric Bigger delves into the transformative power of spiritual purpose with Lindsey Mazza, a former family lawyer turned spiritual advocate. Lindsey shares her inspiring journey from the demands of law to a fulfilling spiritual path sparked by a pivotal life event, exploring themes of identity, vulnerability, and authentic alignment with one’s higher self. She candidly discusses the challenges and triumphs of living with a disability, advocating for inclusivity and the representation of diverse abilities. Lindsey also reflects on her struggles to break free from societal expectations and embrace a life of purpose, now coaching clients through spiritual practices that foster inner trust and deeper connections.
Also in this episode:
- Healing requires presence and is facilitated through simple daily rituals, such as meditation and intentional silence.
- Vulnerability is a strength; understanding and showing all parts of oneself leads to profound personal alignment and authenticity.
- Men’s emotional and spiritual healing is crucial, and creating supportive environments for men to express vulnerability leads to significant transformation.
Guest Bio
Lindsey Mazza is an entrepreneurial lawyer turned leadership catalyst and keynote speaker, inspiring others through the transformative power of self-advocacy. Born with a physical disability that shaped every facet of her life, Lindsey harnessed her voice to rewrite her narrative and guide others toward their true purpose. With a career rooted in serving others through advocacy, Lindsey has now stepped onto the stage, sharing her story of resilience, passion, and intuition to empower audiences. Her mission is to help individuals make unexpected breakthroughs and embrace the spotlight in their own lives. Lindsey’s words resonate deeply, leaving a lasting impact on those ready to take charge of their future.
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Transcript
00:00:06
Speaker
Welcome to the Spiritual Fitness Podcast.
Introduction to the Spiritual Fitness Podcast
00:00:08
Speaker
I'm your host, Eric Bigger, and each week we will explore powerful practices, inspiring stories, and expert insights to guide you on your path to holistic health. By blending spirituality and physical wellness, we support you in strengthening your body and soul. Whether you're a seasoned spiritual seeker or just beginning your journey, the Spiritual Fitness Podcast is here to help you unlock your inner potential and live your most vibrant, purposeful life.
00:00:35
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It's Miracle Season.
00:00:41
Speaker
Spiritual Fitness Spiritual Fitness podcast back again with another episode.
Meeting Lindsay Maza
00:00:45
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And I'm so happy and so grateful to be here because I have a phenomenal guest. We just met a few weeks ago through a client of mine's and she is just this amazing soul. Just such a leader and a catalyst. She's a keynote speaker.
00:01:01
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She's so spiritual, so tuned in and tapped in and in a self-advocate for those who want to help themselves through spirituality, through life, through trials and tribulations. And I want to welcome to the podcast, Spiritual Fitness podcast, Lindsay Maza. Lindsay, welcome to the podcast, How Are You? Before we got on air, we were just talking about astrology, numerology, ah life, and this is going to be an incredible episode. Thank you for being here. Thank you, Eric. I'm so excited to be here.
00:01:31
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I love it. Well, let's get into it, you know, to people who don't know, just give them a brief synopsis. During my due diligence, I know you come from a lawyer. That's your background. Yeah.
Lindsay's Journey with Disability
00:01:42
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Recently transitioned into a spiritual world of just helping people find themselves because as a lawyer, you're advocating for people. So what type of law did you study and work in and what was your passion for you got into this space that you're in today?
00:01:56
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Yeah, so I was a family law lawyer for about 11 years, so dealing with people's hardest points in their lives, separation, custody, their kids. An important part of my background is that I was born with a physical disability. And that was something that I never acknowledged, never wanted to talk about and just worked harder, put my head down, thought I'll just do the thing, climb to the top. And because advocacy was just an inherent part of how I had to live advocating for myself, I thought, I'll advocate for other people. And that's how I got into law. And, you know, I was good at my job, was a lawyer by the time I was 26, worked at a large firm, and then at 29, quit to open up my own practice with five business partners. And we grew it from a small one room office. And then we took over the whole floor of our building and had presence in multiple
Inner Unhappiness in Corporate Life
00:02:54
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cities. So by the external world,
00:02:56
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Very successful, but I was miserable. Why is there such a commonality in the corporate sector? Just in general, I feel like in these times we're living in. Yeah, so I think, and being totally honest, like I was so miserable to the point where by the beginning of this year, I was waking up in the mornings thinking it'd be easier to be dead than to face the day. And when I shared that with colleagues of mine, you know I thought I was being super vulnerable, uncovering this revelation, and they nodded back at me like, yeah, us too. Us too, Lindsay, we're like that. Wow, they did? Yes, this is normal.
00:03:33
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so Right? And I was shocked. I was at a law event and, you know, we're standing around and I'm like, guys, what? Like, that's not living, right? That's not how we're supposed to live each day. Can't we strive for something more than that? And yeah, it's become normalized. It's almost like you can't be happy and be textbook successful.
00:04:00
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Yeah, and it's so fascinating when, you know, you can be vulnerable with someone and then they share their vulnerability and you're like, oh, we're both in the same space. How did this start? Where did this come from? And to people listening, you know, and Lindsay is such an incredible soul. Her energy is amazing. She's so just great at what she does. But I wanted to talk about your disability for a minute. Like when I met you, I never thought that you had a disability, that you would have one.
00:04:29
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I mean, people with disability, they're normal to their restraints, but maybe not to the world at large, because we talked off air about DEIB and how diversity and inclusion and belonging, but there's not a lot about this people who have disabilities. What is the disability that you have? And I think you share with me that your father was born with the same disability, correct?
00:04:51
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Yes. So it's called Poulter-Ramm syndrome. It's a genetic difference, which results in upper limb differences and heart malformation. So like hole in the heart.
Acknowledging Poulter-Ramm Syndrome
00:05:03
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And so yeah, my dad also had the same disability and it was for me to even say the name of it to you today is massive growth for me because I don't think I said the name out loud until two months ago. Interesting. Why was that?
00:05:22
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First of all, it's a label, and it's a label that was only ever used in my presence as a negative growing up. It was only in medical situations. It was only in differentiating me from my peers if I needed accommodations. It was the thing that made my life harder. I spent my entire life pretending it didn't exist.
00:05:49
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So the only people that I would speak about it with were my family. And it was because it was my shield. And right, I thought, if I don't acknowledge the differences, then they don't exist and then I'll just fit in like everybody else.
00:06:03
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And clearly you do not fit in because you're so different in how you think and how you show up to the world. And one thing I've noticed about you is that you're so authentic and very transparent in where you're at, how you're feeling. I think that's what people want to evolve to in today's society because like you said,
00:06:23
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when you address you know your vulnerability with your peers, they were dealing with the same symptoms or the same challenges. And so now you're in a new space of being more connected to self. Was that the turning point that led you and say, you know what, I got to get out of this world of this career, this corporate environment to go to a more spiritual space to find my sole purpose?
00:06:46
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Yeah, so I've always been an intuitive person and I've always been into spirituality, but I couldn't live in that world and practice law. The two were just totally disconnected, so I had two versions of myself. And I incorporated those elements, obviously, in my day-to-day, which made me good at my job because I was able to maintain balance for the most part. and call in the right clients because I incorporated those tools.
Inspired by Her Father
00:07:15
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But the catalyst for me was when I lost my dad last year in October. And at his funeral, everybody was relaying their stories and experiences with him and about how his
00:07:29
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him having a disability and him being a an outlier to his generation. He was a baby boomer, right? So when he was born, he was taken from his parents. They wanted to put him in an asylum. His mom didn't see him for three days. They had to demand to get him back.
00:07:44
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He grew up Catholic, the Catholic church didn't want him at church, didn't want him going to school. like His parents fought for him and then he became a judge. right He was a total outlier and he was an advocate for people with disabilities. so Listening to people relay that to me at his funeral was a really pivotal moment for me because I thought, my dad's been a mentor to me from a legal perspective and just as a father.
00:08:10
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But I'm supposed to do more with this similarity that him and I have. I'm supposed to tell our story, and by telling our story, I'll be able to help other people. And so that was about a year ago, and that was the turning point for me where I realized I had to be doing something different than what I was doing.
00:08:32
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Yeah, and I think that was his way to give you the intuitiveness, the nudge, and say, baby girl, it's time. I need you to take this to a whole other level. And it's beautiful when you can listen in because a lot of times, especially when we're grieving the loss, it's hard to listen, right? It's hard to be connected to things within ourselves that can transform outside of ourselves.
00:08:54
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But for you, you were able to stay present to answer the call. And now we're here today talking about it. So what did that look like when you got the nudge to know like, okay, I know I have to do something different. I have to do something more. I know I'm just as different as my dad was, and I have true power to make a difference.
00:09:14
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How did you go about moving into that space? Because I think a lot of people struggle with that. Like, okay, I've mastered this part of my life, my career, but I'm so empty inside. I know I want to do something different. What was your action steps to get you into you knowing like this is what you wanted to do?
Embracing Vulnerabilities
00:09:32
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I started to hear my dad. When I say was always spiritual intuitive, like I would use tools to get guidance and I would tune in, but I started to actually audibly hear him and I started to get guidance from my guides. And I've always turned to that part of my life during really hard times. Like that's when I've really leaned in. And so what that looked like for me was I started to take care of myself. So I started to work with,
00:10:00
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people who could help me. I started to follow my mentors and I started to sit in silence and listen to the parts of myself and see the parts of myself that I had been avoiding because what I realized was everybody talks about but alignment, right? I want to be aligned. I want to increase my vibration. I want to manifest. But what I learned was you cannot achieve true alignment until you're able to show the world all the parts of yourself and you can't do that until you can see them yourself. Wow. And how did you go about showing yourself that you found out about or knew about that you was hiding from to the world? What did that look like? Because I know people listening that's going to watch this and listen to this. They're going like, well, what are the tools and what does it look like? Because people are always into the how. So what was that for you?
00:10:53
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So I was so disconnected from my body that like I resented being different. So that looked like like I would avoid mirrors. Taking a photo shoot for me, my first photo shoot was like jumping out of an airplane without a parachute. like The amount of fear that I had behind those things being actually seen not hiding anymore. And like the hiding is a joke for the most part because it's a visible difference. But I was hiding myself. So I started to do the things that were hard. I started to honor the parts that I thought were different and reframe how I thought about it. right So my whole life I'm like, You know, it sucks. Life's been harder. i It's been harder that I'm different. And then when I started to think about all of the things that I have acquired in my life because I'm different, I realized that the one thing that I didn't want to talk about is the one thing that's always given me the loudest voice. Wow.
00:11:54
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It's the thing that made me tenacious. As a little kid, I was problem solving with teachers so that I could be included with my peers. It was having the strength to speak out when I wasn't being treated fairly. And that has led me down this path.
00:12:14
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but being able to actually connect the dots that really took me sitting with myself and thinking, what are the parts of me that I hate? What are the parts of me that I continue to loathe? And I need to start giving them attention and learning to love those parts of myself.
00:12:31
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Yeah, because I believe that's when true wholeness comes in, right? Because like you said, you're not complete until you can complete the incomplete parts of yourself. The parts you don't show to the world, the parts no one knows about, the thing you do to know why when no one's looking.
00:12:46
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and embracing say, you know what, it's okay. It's okay to embrace your shadow self, to embrace your fears and insecurities. And like you said, just going to mirrors and being seen. And that was hard for you. It's hard for a lot of us. It's hard for people to get on a podcast and speak their truth and their vulnerability. So I commend that you've done it and you've been in this space of evolving. For you, I want to get more into like,
00:13:14
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Lindsay's spiritual practice and intentionality. What does that look like for you on a day-to-day basis?
Daily Spiritual Practices
00:13:20
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How do you get into that space? Yeah. So for me, and I think I heard this on one of your podcasts, showering for me is like the portal to connecting with, and it always has been my whole life. So hearing you say that it was really cool. Cause I don't know anybody else that does that, but I always start my day with the shower and I clean my energy, right? I picture detaching all energy that's not mine.
00:13:48
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I always intentionally call back any power or energy that I've lost. And then I picture myself protecting my own energy, right? That's when I connect with my guides, I connect with my dad and angels, you know, I believe in all of it. And I just have a little conversation and, you know, ask them to show me who I need to be that day, what I need to say.
00:14:15
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who I should talk to and ask them to help me get out of my own way, right? And you know, it's so interesting, there right? I've been thinking a lot about in most of life, there's love and there's money, right? We put these things on a pedestal. And then there's this part of life, spirituality, where it's for some people, now it's more like open and people more vulnerable in that space, but it's, you know, probably the last three decades or more, religion has been like spirituality to a degree.
00:14:47
Speaker
But what I'm learning is the way people talk about it now is more freeing. Where I used to think, because I found out earlier this year that I have all these spiritual gifts, like psychic gifts. Clara Sintank, Clara Voink, Clara Audio. And I thought when things are coming to me, I'm like, what is this?
00:15:08
Speaker
So for you to say that, I'm pretty sure there's people listening and who will watch this. If you think like, yeah, that intuition, that discernment, that knowing, that's a gift that you should listen in and lean into more because it'll help you in your day-to-day life, but also help others that you don't even know. And yeah, like you said, taking a shower is such a portal of Lensing your energy, open your energy field. You get more clear on what it is you want to do for the day. So you do the shower, you connect to your spirit guides, connect to your father and you know everything in between, angels. Now what happens on a day to day? Once you out you get out the shower, you put on your clothes, whatever, you start your day. What does your day look like? like Are you a person who prays a lot? Do you meditate? What else happens beyond that realm?
00:15:59
Speaker
Yeah, so I definitely meditate and tap in every day. And that could be a form of guided meditation, whatever I'm feeling. Perhaps it's a form of prayer. I have a conversation, right? And I listen, and then I do the things that I'm being told. Because I think that when you start listening and following the steps, that's when the connection gets stronger because you become confident in that relationship. So it started like I would ask for signs. So one of my major mentors, and she doesn't know that she's my mentor, but Gabby Bernstein, I just absolutely adore. I love her. And she talks about always asking for a sign if you're looking for guidance from the universe, right? So before I had this more clear contact, I would ask for signs.
00:16:52
Speaker
before making decisions, right? You know, if I'm supposed to do this, show me a white owl and I would do it in a very like safe container in my head, not out loud because I didn't want to trick my phone algorithms into showing up, right? So I would ask for those signs and then I would follow them. And if I didn't get the sign, that was the universe redirecting me. And now when I hear yes or no, I stop questioning it. Like I'm past the point in my life where If I meet someone and something feels off, I'm not going going to try and convince myself from a people pleasing perspective to give them another chance or look past it. If it's no, it's no, and that's okay.
00:17:37
Speaker
right Yeah, and I think trust is the most important ingredient anyone can have within their life, their relationships, their business partnerships, how they go out in the world because I feel like outside of the flesh, what you have the most is your trust in life, your trust in yourself. And I remember for years, I didn't trust life.
00:17:58
Speaker
I just trusted myself, so I wouldn't allow anybody to do anything for me. So what that block was my receivership, because I just wanted to do everything. But trusting that voice, that inner voice, trusting your intuition and listening. And I also think it's powerful that we shouldn't have to give a person another chance to prove that they're right from what we're seeing. And I think, no, people mess up, people make mistakes.
00:18:23
Speaker
like Yeah, but why are we allowing ourselves to embrace something that we know is a big no for us? There's nothing can justify what you just did or what I just witnessed. Your body will tell, your body keeps the score. I think you know the space we're in today's world, people question because they do want the answers, but the answers are within.
00:18:44
Speaker
They're all within. And we get so disconnected because of social media, mass media, what our friends think, our peers. But I think it's about what do you think? Because when you have to leave your corporate environment, you have to think, okay, what do I really want from my higher self? And what does my higher self want from me? And then how do I take a step into that space?
00:19:08
Speaker
Can you speak on like for you when you're working with a client, are you working with individuals on connecting within themselves?
Coaching and Spiritual Tools
00:19:16
Speaker
What is a process that you will probably take them through or something you will kind of make them aware of to get to the side that they need to be in? Yeah, so I think It depends because it's private coaching. It depends on what the person's really struggling with, right? And how far along the spiritual path that they are. But I think the starting point is, you know, people are coming because they're looking for more. They're coming because they're not happy. And the starting point is figuring out what is it that's really making you unhappy, right? What part of your body is being triggered?
00:19:49
Speaker
what are the external triggers that are causing this discomfort and really like getting comfortable in the discomfort? Because if we can't pin down what the thing is that's making you unhappy, then we can't move forward. So that looks like honest conversations, some meditation, breath work. And then from there, it's ongoing communication because the triggers are going to keep coming up, right? And then including spiritual tools as they feel good for people. One of the things that I had heard very audibly from my dad was I was asking for all these signs, right? Should I do this? Should I do that? And I heard him say to me, I asked him for a blue butterfly because it was something that he had shown me previously and I was making this big decision and I said, dad, show me a blue butterfly. And I heard him say to me in his tone and sarcasm, just like he would if he were here,
00:20:46
Speaker
Lindsay, you need to stop seeking external validation. You have all of the answers, but fine, I'll send you one more blue butterfly. And I got that butterfly, but then after that, it was like, no, stop, you gotta start listening to yourself. But I think through the coaching piece, people, you need that validation, right? Like as you start gaining momentum, you need somebody to validate your intuition and the path you're on.
00:21:13
Speaker
Because I think that the challenges, for me, in any aspect of when I was getting downloads or knowing things that I shouldn't know, I'm like, is this true? Because why do I know this? How do I know this? Am I responsible for like this information?
00:21:31
Speaker
ah About a week ago, ah I got a reading, a human design reading, right? I have an open throat, so undefined center in my throat, meaning human design is like, I can pick up on things that people are thinking and feeling, and I can speak to it. Where people who have a defined throat, they won't say it. So I had to learn that just because I have information on something, I don't always have to give it. But my perception was I feel like I'm holding you back if I don't tell you the truth and I realize like everybody's not ready for the truth and everybody don't want the truth. So I had to learn how to have discernment when I'm speaking on the truth about something I know that I should know or don't want to know. right I could just meet a person like, hey, I'm moved to tell you or I might ask a question.
00:22:18
Speaker
What you need healers, teachers, like I have energy healers, I have astrologers, I have so many people that helped me understand the concept of my vessel was coming through. Not to confirm to validate, yes, but to know I'm on the right path because sometimes it can be a lot when you're like sensitive and my Pisces, I'm so sensitive to energies. You're like, whoa,
00:22:40
Speaker
What is this? You got a baby to kind of like hold the container within yourself, but also trust that the information that's coming through is time enough for you to give it or speak on it. So I know for you, you said you've been donating your entire life. So I'm pretty sure that's how you help yourself in your business, friendships, partnerships. I want to talk a little bit about the healing piece within life, right? You've got women, you've got men.
00:23:07
Speaker
And what really raised my eyebrows with you is that you really spoke on men wanting to heal and evolve. And I hadn't heard that from a woman ever in the way that you speak on it. What brings you into the space of wanting men to heal themselves and be better? And you said you spoke last night as well. Can you speak on that?
Creating Safe Spaces for Men
00:23:27
Speaker
Yeah, so this is going to be controversial, but that's okay. I don't love the women empowerment groups that only support women.
00:23:38
Speaker
I've never felt aligned with them. And the reason for that, I think, is because I've never found a place in that. Like, speaking candidly, it's never been women that have helped raise me up in my life, in my career. I think that a lot of women, especially high-achieving women, because it's often harder to advance, we are wired to compete. Mm, that's good.
00:24:08
Speaker
So I think that it is hard for women to truly celebrate the success of other women without jealousy because that's been my experience. I have had female bosses who have complimented me in one breath and then tear me down in the next.
00:24:25
Speaker
who have felt threatened by my success, and that's been my experience. And even in my personal life, I've had a lot of really beautiful men who've wanted nothing but for me to succeed and have celebrated along with me and who have this depth within them, but they don't have a community to reach out to like women do. Ooh, that's deep.
00:24:52
Speaker
Even my dad, my dad, he had pendulums and crystals and was secretive about it. I remember when I was a kid seeing one of his pendulums being like, dad, what's that? And that he like silently practiced his spirituality.
00:25:08
Speaker
Even my brother, I talked to them all about these things and they're like, we don't have a group to go to. And they end up either emoting on their own or have no safe place to really deep dive into those emotions. and And I've always really connected with men, even in my practice as a lawyer, like when I announced that I was leaving law, it was my male clients that were the most emotional.
00:25:32
Speaker
Yeah, because I don't think I know as men, one, the reason we're not good at expressing our thoughts and feelings is because the paradigm or the perception that, okay, you're weak. I'm asking men, you don't want to be weak.
00:25:47
Speaker
Two, we don't have the program or the conditioning to cultivate that space in a healthy way where it makes sense to us and the women that we might be dating or sisters, mom. And then three, we don't want to be judged. So but I'm not crying in front of a woman. are You crazy? It's like, but why not?
00:26:07
Speaker
ah I'm a man, I gotta a hold it. And there's conversations where you keep everything to yourself, you don't tell your woman anything. And I'm like, okay, I get it, but what you mean you don't tell your woman anything that you're going through emotionally or mentally. And so I just got back from my university, Hampton University, Go Pirates. And that was the conversation I had with some of the supervisors over there. Like they have a lot of things for women and healing and mental health and emotional wellbeing.
00:26:36
Speaker
But there's no space for men. And I think talking to you a few weeks ago and me going through, there's a documentary people listening and watching. It's called The Work and it's on Amazon Prime and it's about prison inmates and outsiders come in, they come together, select group, and they grow through this process of letting go their emotions and being vulnerable. And a lot of these men are so much paying for all the suppression of years. And like when they're crying or actually screaming, like they're letting their, their beasts out of their anger because it's been so suppressed that they can't even control it. And this is why I think
00:27:19
Speaker
The world is the way it is, at least and from a men's perspective. We don't know what it's like to be emotional and be vulnerable and be transparent and be clear. Or where I come from, you express yourself. You're judged. Oh, come on. Don't let them see you sweat.
00:27:35
Speaker
Be a man, pull your pants up, like all these things, right? So I honor you that you want to create a container for men, you know women as well. But it does bring a very concern to me that I'm thinking about it, that it is no space or place where men can go to just talk about their emotions and their feelings. And then you get some women's group who are like, I want a man like this and I want a man like that. And I'm like,
00:28:01
Speaker
Yeah, but then ask yourself who's raising these men? Probably their moms. We're leaving them behind. Yeah. Totally. That's exactly it. And I think that, of course, women empowerment groups, there's a place for that. And I appreciate the foundation for why they were created. But I just think there also needs to be a container where men feel safe and When I did my talk last week, what really took me back was that it was the men afterwards that were coming up to me and saying things to me like, like, I see your soul. Thank you for showing us your beautiful soul. And I'm like, So look, people listening, watching, that is what true union and companionship and partnership is. Women, are you listening? If your man or the mass energy that you call in is telling you that they connect with your soul, not your flesh, and I think that's what's happening. The empowerment groups are going more on a material, physical flesh space.
00:29:08
Speaker
But they're not thinking about the internal space, right? The soul, the spiritual, the higher self. And I've learned in my life, working with so many women, is that emotional and mental and spiritual connection is very important. You know, they say men want respect and women want love.
00:29:27
Speaker
I believe men really want peace and women want intimacy. How can you be intimate with a man if you don't understand his pain or you know you're not programmed to understand it or he's not programmed to express himself, to tell you where he's at, to get that connection.
00:29:46
Speaker
It's a journey right for all of us, but I think if we can be open to change, be open to listening and accepting a person for who they are, where they are, and not having this expectation as how they should be, and granted, I love women ah and I think what's happened is that women got all that power. So no woman or man has ever seen a woman in her full power because women has been suppressed most of life.
00:30:14
Speaker
So I think women are even trying to understand their power that they have in the universe now. And even some men are even accepting it or trying to control it. But the nervous system is not used to it. So everyone is even clashing or they don't have no true alignment in it. It's it's an interest interesting space we're in. And I think this is why you, me, and people of our genre of work, we got to help each other.
00:30:37
Speaker
And I think we're all in balance. Like at the end of the day, like as a woman in the corporate world, like my masculine and feminine energy was totally out of whack. Like I resided most of the time in my masculine energy. The doing all the time. and So transitioning into this world, really relearning the feminine energy of like,
00:30:59
Speaker
you know I'm just going to be, I'm going to let things happen, I'm going to trust the masculine energy of the universe to hold me in this space and help me propel forward. like I think that that women need to relearn that right and men need to get comfortable with their feminine energy.
00:31:17
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And you know, to want more in life, there is gonna be some type of output, which is masculine. You have to do more. There's nothing wrong with that. Like, it says some women will want more things, so they're willing to do the work. However, I just thought about it. I wanna know if women want more. Is it because of the masculine, and they seen that for so many years as a blueprint?
00:31:43
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of what they should have, right? Like if women for centuries and times are seeing men getting all this power, all this money, all this just prestige and like, of course they want what they want, but is it just a reflection of what they saw this entire time? That's why they want it now.
00:32:00
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And then there's something that Jordan Peterson talks about equality, like equal pay and things of that, which I agree. like If a woman is great at a job, she should get the job. It shouldn't be about gender roles, right? But then he was saying, women want equal pay only when it's in a position of power. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. He said, think about truck drivers or building skyscrapers.
00:32:27
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I don't think women want those jobs, right? So it was just fascinating how he broke it down. It made me think. But more importantly, what I'm saying is that unconsciously, like you said, we're in balance. We're doing what we think we should do.
00:32:41
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We don't really know because we're not fully integrated into our wholeness because of how the masculine structures was created, at least in America, on what to be, how to show up. so But I think you need both. And as a woman, being a woman is a superpower because a strong feminine energy is where things are manifested through because you can have child, right? So, without that, they say the subconscious is feminine and the conscious is masculine, but the woman is who manifests things for you. Behind every successful man, there's a man. The ladies, I love that you can get it done and you want to get it done. You want to be your boss, but I love when you're nurturing and you're giving and you're allowing and you're trusting and you say, hey, you tap my shoulder, to say, hey, go this way, do that. This is what my soul was telling me, because that's power. Yeah, totally. It's a balance.
00:33:33
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There's a balance. It's where men get disconnected too, right? Because men want to take care of women. Yeah. Right? And we're out here just being like, we can do it all on our own. I tell men, I say, you're providing and protecting, but she doesn't feel safe. That's the point men are missing. We're not making women feel safe. won i didn't protect them Maybe some, but I feel like in this this competition, it was like, I don't want to be better than you. I just want to be better than me.
00:34:00
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I don't want a baby to have a cycle once a month. I want a woman to naturally be a woman. And I want a man to naturally be a man, right? I don't want to compete with what you're great at. I can have a kid. And I don't want to try to. I don't want to compete with that. Right. But I do understand the disconnect and the challenges of the pay. Because I believe the best person should get the job. I don't really get too much in like, you know, demographics and background. And if you're great at what you do,
00:34:31
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I'm gonna hire you. When I'm going to someone to get out, I work best with women. yeah Because I feel like they have a different perspective than I do, they can help me get to the root of my pain more than a man. That's what I believe.
00:34:44
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because they're looking at it from a different lens. So I think that's why the mass and the feminine energies are needed. But in your life and within your practice, from keynote speaking to helping people get to their higher self and heal, them what is a commonality that you're aware of that's happening most, that's keeping people even stuck or just in this space of just not evolving or changing? What is that common thing that you're seeing within the world?
00:35:14
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I think that there's too much complacency. One of the things that I've always done is I researched the heck out of everything. like I am constantly learning. If I don't know the answer, I want to find it. If I'm feeling a certain way, I want to tap in deeper. and I think that people are so disconnected and they're so comfortable continuing on this hamster wheel because they're not motivated enough to find the answer. like I think part of it is laziness, but I think mostly people are just so exhausted trying to keep up with their day-to-day that they don't have time or energy
00:35:56
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to stop and find the answers, right? Because they got bills to pay. We live in this crazy economy. Two-income homes aren't enough to put food on the table. I don't know what it's like in the States, but in Canada, the cost of groceries is obscene. So people, that keeps them stuck.
00:36:14
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It's fascinating because it's true because there was a guy, uh, receiving a lie, stretching your vessel to receive more. And he was like, think about it. The more you work, the less you can really manifest things. Because how can you manifest things when you're always working?
00:36:30
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I was like, damn, that's so unique. And then I started thinking, when I rest, I manifest. The biggest things that's coming to my life is when I'm not doing anything. Not when I'm out trying to get everything done. My challenge is that I was so afraid to be still and listen and deal with what I'm really feeling or supposed to feel in my body so it doesn't control my emotions or control me in a way where I'm just running from it. It says a lot about just presence, stillness, silence, like you said earlier, how we can go within and advocate those wounds that we're not looking at to help us get to the next side of life. But if we're always working, we're always doing, we're always giving and not being, we can't really evolve or heal. And I think that's why I think the world is calling for more light workers like yourself to open up containers and hold space for people to feel safe
00:37:28
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really just relax. I believe there should be one day of one week in the entire world, everything is just shut off and and we don't do anything, right? Like, oh, just have a day. Don't do nothing for a day. That should be ah a world day of nothingness.
00:37:45
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But you know we haven't been programmed because of that, and there's a lot of fear underlining the constant work in the rat race. What is three things that you can give the audience, people listening, that they can do right now if they're in a rut mentally and emotionally? They just want to get up to get a fresh breath of air. They just want to breathe again. like What is some tools you can give them that can benefit them?
00:38:11
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Yeah, so I think that people over-complicate all of this, right? I think they over-complicate spirituality and mindfulness because we think, oh, I don't have time. I've got a thousand thoughts going on, so I'm going to try and meditate for five minutes, but two minutes into the meditation, my mind goes off in a different direction, so I've failed at meditation, so I'm not going to try it again, right? Yeah. And like I said, most people shower in the morning before they go to work.
00:38:40
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while you're in the shower, think of how you want your data unfold. Everybody's got time for that, right? I also think people underestimate the power of moving your body as simple as walking. If you're able to walk, for me, walking's very meditative. And i that was one of the things that my coach gave me permission to be like, you don't need to run five miles. Go for a walk. And when I really started to lean into that,
00:39:07
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That's when things would come to me, the walking, right? Being in nature, being outside. And then I think before you close your eyes at night, like get off your phone, just put your phone down, turn off the TV. And we all have five minutes before we fall asleep with our eyes closed or we can tap in again, right? Where we can talk to our higher self guides and say, you know, like if there's any message or anything I need to know, a lot of it comes to you in the middle of the night, right? A lot of it comes to you while you're sleeping, right? And those are missed opportunities.
00:39:41
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your presence, right? Like, again, like you said, slowing it down, meditation, walks, being present with yourself at night, listening to the listening as you're in the shower, asking empowering questions, like, how do I get out of this? Just really sit with the question and let the answer come through without you trying to force it. It's so true, because it's simple. Like you said, we do overcomplicate things, even in relationships, in all of life. It's like, we want love from somebody, but we really want his love from ourselves.
00:40:08
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like We don't have to heal to live. Living is healing. And we just wake up, right? Before we get up here, I do want to touch bases and you know circulate some energy around a disability space because outside looking in, I don't know what it's like to be disabled, right? so To people listening and just in general, what is something people can be mindful of for people in a disability community or just people in general? I had a young lady reach out to me and she was looking for a job and she couldn't get a job because of her disability.
00:40:42
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And I was like, damn, like I didn't know what to say. Other than like, oh, here's a link, check this out. But how can we be more mindful and how can we share space and just open up to people who are disabled and accept them as, because they are human, right? And not just put them in this space of like you're an outsider because of your disability. Because I think like you said, that would make anyone feel like they can't talk about what they have and they just want to be normal.
00:41:11
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Like as a starting point, you know, the next time you go to work on Monday or you're at an event, look around the room and see how many people with visible disabilities are present.
Importance of Inclusive Hiring
00:41:22
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It's usually zero.
00:41:25
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you know So I've gone to some networking events recently and as far as I can tell, and I appreciate there's non-visible illnesses and disabilities, but in terms of like physical invisible ones, usually there's not a representation in the crowd and it's because people are concerned about accessibility. So I think just being conscious and really considering all people when you're planning events or at your place of work because the accommodations are usually easy ones and just asking the question. right like If you're putting out an ad for a job and you're looking for candidates or you're planning an event, ask the question. Put right on the form if if you require any sort of accommodation or special request for accessibility. like That question is not even posed.
00:42:19
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And it's so easy, but I think that people are afraid to be offensive, right? So they don't want to ask questions that could be perceived as offensive. But I think that you know when you come at it from a place of kindness,
00:42:34
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The intention behind it is we want to be inclusive and that makes all the difference right and i think you know people with disabilities are discriminated against like i certainly didn't get hired for jobs that i should have been hired for and i know that because i was overqualified for those jobs so that's why i worked harder and made my own job and i was successful.
00:42:55
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But I think that it's a missed opportunity because the thing that people without disabilities don't realize is someone who is born with a disability or has acquired one will bring to your place of work or your group a different skill set that is invaluable. It's problem solving skills that others haven't thought about. It is tenacity because we've had to work harder.
00:43:24
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And I just think that it needs to be a greater part of the conversation when we're talking about inclusivity, because it's not currently. And it's 2024, so it should be. Yeah. And I'll be transparent because even me asking the questions I felt in my body like, damn, should I say this question like this?
00:43:42
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And I'm so glad you acknowledged it and you said it because I felt this when I first got introduced to the mental health space right as an advocate. And then I experienced people who had like you know panic attacks or people really suffer from depression.
00:43:57
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And I told myself, I'm not going to let this be a stigma. We're going to talk about suicide prevention. We're going to talk about mental health awareness. And so now I want to break the mold within him myself to be able to talk to any disabled person with love and kindness and not have that apprehensive, reluctant energy when I'm speaking because you speak to me.
00:44:18
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Don't put it nowhere. Don't put it on a pedestal. Don't put it beneath you. Just speak to it. And I think that alone is enough for people to say. Just be mindful and just look around. And people who run big corporations like have these questions on your questionnaire or when someone's interviewing for a job. Because it is a different capacity of thinking and being and doing not only tenacity, just on your vibration on how you think.
00:44:42
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There's information on dyslexia, right? I think I'm said the word, right? And usually people who have that, I don't know if that's counted as a disability, but they read things backwards, right? However, because of that, when they probably were in school, because I have someone that I know really close, they had to find an answer. The fact that they had to find an answer, what they became good at is knowing who can get the job done better than them. So some of the biggest people in the world that we look up to, the Richard Branson's, the Walt Disney's, these people created big corporations have dyslexia because they're great at hiring and finding people to do the things they can't do to build something successful because that's their biff.
00:45:27
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They have the sermon on who can get it done where someone like me, I'm going to read the entire book and I'm going to go to school and all these things, right? And there's a quote that says, the A students work for the B students. The B students work for the C people. The C students will own a company and the D students own the land that the company is on.
00:45:47
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People don't get so caught up in degrees and titles. you know A lot of people are self-taught, right? The richest people in the world don't have high levels of education, but they have high levels of emotional intelligence or awareness or bandwidth to move through life. They have life education.
00:46:06
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Yeah, but thank you for speaking on. I think it's just so important for us to hold space in the DEIB world of belonging. Because when I spoke at the Cairns line last summer, I didn't see no disabled people there. I didn't see no one speaking about disability.
00:46:23
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within the influencer market, social media, pop culture, mental health. They don't talk about it. You don't even look for it. You saying, and I think it is time for all these things to be talked about and shed some light on for the benefit of everyone. So we want to get into the energy of Lindsay. Where can we find you? How do we work with you? And how do we get to know more of what you do on a day to day?
00:46:50
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Yeah, so the easy one is to go to my website, which is, it's LindsayMaza.com and I've got an Instagram page. My link's there as well. And yeah, in terms of working with me, I do private, the spiritual coaching. I also have a consulting part of my business for inclusivity because I think corporations need to hire somebody like me yeah so that I can show them a different way of thinking because it's such a missed opportunity. And I think, like I said, it is the one minority group that is really not present. And that's how as a company owner, that's how you stay ahead of the game. And that's how you expand and you call in a wider demographic as well.
00:47:38
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And then the keynote speaking, they're all on my website, keynote speaking. I love it all, but that's really my passion because I love to be able to talk to a group of people and really kind of through my story, turn what they think the journey of somebody with a disability is on its head. Because I think we all have stories to share and people learn from them just through our honesty and vulnerability. So,
00:48:06
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Yeah, that's where you can find me and all of the things that I do when you can book discovery call with me and I'm happy to connect with people further. Yes, people listening. Connect. Get in there. Talk to Lindsay. Lindsay, before we leave, can you give us some empowering, motivational, inspirational, influential words to the people listening? I know you have some for us. We would love that.
Turning Weaknesses into Strengths
00:48:33
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I think going back on what I had said about really being able to tap in and look at the parts of ourselves that we're afraid to look at, because once you sit with yourself and you look at those parts,
00:48:47
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That's where your superpower lies. And for me, that's what it was. This disability has actually been my superpower. And we've all been given these differences or things that we perceive as weaknesses to actually teach us. And then by us learning, then we can teach other people. so I think we should all be on the journey to find what our superpowers are because that helps us show up in the world in the best way for us and for other people. So it is mic drop. Lindsay, thank you. Thank you. This is incredible. People share subscribe like this episode. Tell a friend and tell a friend, please follow Lindsay because she has so much more to say. We're out spiritual fitness podcast. Talk to you guys soon. Peace.
00:49:38
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