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#46: Jail Time

Happy birthday wishes to Jessica!!! She spent the morning returning a mansion purchased for the FPOBA. Boy do we miss hearing about her fights with strangers on Threads. Watch HBO Max if you are in need of gratuitous sex and violence. Francis outlines the latest Apple Pay credit card scam and we want your vote on whether you see pre-fab jail cells in the picture above.

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Introductions and Discussion Topics

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From a makeshift recording studio in Brooklyn, welcome to The Grocery Stick with Jessica and Francis. Shut the front door. That is not what we agreed upon. Francis and Jessica. Meh, ignore that.
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We're Brooklynites and friends. We're here to talk, laugh, commiserate, and argue about all things travel sports-related, kid-related, and plain old life-related. It's Francis and Jessica, or I quit.
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Shh.

Birthday Celebrations and La Boheme

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Episode 46. Jessica. six jessica 46. It's closer to my age. Yes. And if you don't me saying, you probably don't mean to call us out.
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It's fine. Because by time this thing airs, it'll be passed. Happy birthday. Thank you. Jessica. Thank you. I'm a day early. no one knows what day this is today. So ha ha happy birthday, Jessica. And hope your family is out there right now with both your cars buying you a gift.
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They are not. I assure you.

Solo Birthday Plans and Humor

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know? Well, so I already got my gift. Oh, even better. like Like from Eric. I already got my gift. Okay. Excellent. And he got me tickets to see La Boheme at the Met, which we went to on Wednesday night, which was amazing. Fancy.
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Amazing. Cool. Yeah. Super cool. Ruthie keeps asking me what I want. I keep deferring because I just, I know she doesn't have any time shut because she's got a tournament this weekend and they're gone. and go Good luck. at that And then I'll be alone. buy something for you with your money.
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Yes, exactly. i'm going to go take myself out to dinner and myself out to brunch. Exactly. Okay. Because I will be by myself. Okay. It's all right. you know'm that It's not a guilt thing. Peaceful. I could have very easily made plans and made a choice not to. The quiet quiet is really nice and I'm okay with that. That's good. And the weather is better. So that would be awesome. Yes, except it's supposed to rain on Sunday.
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What? Yeah. Okay, we can't say that. Now they know what day we're recording. They don't. just said Sunday. Sunday happens every week. And there are six other days. True. i I know you don't want to rehash it.
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I don't need you to rehash it. Oh, God. i just want to make fun of you. Sure. Well, everybody. You and everybody else. Everybody. Jessica's late but podcasting today. Because she had to return the mansion that she bought. Yes.
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For... the so for for the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. That's right. If you're listening to our podcast, order you know what I'm talking about. I should totally just just change it to the ah to the acronym. You had to return a mansion. You You had to return

Life with Dogs: Traits and Challenges

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the mansion that you bought for the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air your household. And I'll tell it looked like a castle.
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But one level. But wait, would that have made the o the OG upset? Oh, God, no, because the other one is is freewheeling. He does not. so He doesn't wouldn't care. He wouldn't be jealous. No crates. Freak. This guy rolled into my crib. No, he'd be happy. Now he gets a mansion.
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ah Hello. I am the original dog. Yeah, no, the OG hates being confined. Oh. Hates it. So, no. I think he would take great pleasure, actually, if the other one... They wouldn't fight over it. You swear they wouldn't fight over it. Swear.
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Oh. A thousand times over. That is well-adjusted dog. Yeah. The first one, the OG? Yeah. Yeah, the OJ doesn't care. Damn. Okay. Yeah, he's he's super easy, actually. Yeah.
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It's the wee one that's a little antsy pants. He's an antsy pants. ok can know He wants to eat everybody when they walk in. And then and then what happens is is like he recognizes certain people. right and then what happens is he does like this smile, the dog smile thing. And sneezes incessantly to show you that he's not yeah know being aggressive.
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okay But every time, i swear to God, nobody wants to come in my house with that dog. I'm not coming over now. yeah i mean like You didn't want to come over before. Guys, i got a new dog. Don't come over. Yeah, you guys didn't want to come over before because of the other dog. Well, the rest of my family definitely not coming over. That's what I'm saying.
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Yeah, exactly. So, okay. Okay. It's all right. We'll just have to come to you. That's it. Come on over. um Okay.
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And have you gone into any new fights

Navigating Online Platforms

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recently? i i keep forgetting every episode I record, was like, oh I got to ask Jessica about new fights. Yeah. It's been quiet. You haven't told me anything about new fights on the internet. I have. I've gotten into fights.
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Yeah, but, you know, it's funny because now it's it's um kind of more delineated by platform. Oh, but it's... yuki It has yielded no hate follows for us Damn it. listen Oh, you know why? Because I don't know if I have it linked on my thread. Come on, lady. Use this the power of social for good. I have to check. I have to go look. I don't know if it's there. Yeah, on threads. Because threads is like the it's Instagram's version of X. And so people are just mean.
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I'm not on threads. Are they really? Oh. Are the threads supposed to be happy? Oh, God, no. It's just like It's like the most racist file. Anybody says whatever they think. Every keyboard warrior is typing the most vicious, you know, most vicious things they would never say to anybody's actual face. Oh, Jesus.
00:05:25
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It's terrible. Like, I have to sign out of it in order to, like, stop. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. So oftentimes I sign out of and then it just sits for a little while. But it's interesting because I have friends yeah whom I love and yeah there's a lot of heated rivalry stuff on threads that they send me. So when they send it to me, because we're like three yeah loons.
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They're called loons now, fans of heated rivalry. They're called loons. That thing's I guess, yeah, what i saying? it's It's a recent thing. Why would it die down? I don't know the show. don't watch the show. There's more seasons coming out. and Okay. you know I mean, it it definitely it got renewed for another season, and it's a series of books.
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So it just finished season one or two? Yeah, one. Oh, one. Six episodes in season one. Okay. Yeah. and so half my family hasn't watched it and the other half yeah is very into it.
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Okay. I'm sure you can guess. I can guess. Yep. I already know which half is half. Understood. Yeah. Okay. And then I have this like these two girlfriends. Yeah.
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Who are, you know, very into it. Kind of, you know, like me. Yeah. Maybe more than, probably more than me. I mean, they're kind of like definitely more, i think. And are there heated discussions? Yeah. Yeah, we basically have that this. Yes, there are. but shit really but It's not people don't get mean, at least not that I've seen. But there's definitely there is a culture around it now okay that um where there's a lot of memes. There's a lot of, you know, a lot of inside quote, you know, are the two guys. Yeah. i call them protagonists.
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Are the two guys, the main characters, are they both gay in real life? No. Oh, one is not. Yeah. He might be by, but he definitely has a long term

TV Shows and Graphic Content

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female girlfriend companion. OK.
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And the other one I believe is, but has not. um I don't think he's revealed anything. okay i don't know that he's not out. I just, you know, it's like being out and revealing it publicly to your masses is not really the same thing. Right. So people wouldn't care these days. But, i you know, you kind of listen to him and see him and you start to go, hu yeah, I could see that.
00:07:37
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Okay. Yeah, but they're both like amazing eye candy and women are following all over them. And women are really impassioned about the story. Yeah. Right? Because it's like everything that you want to happen comes true.
00:07:51
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so you know dwell So if you're one of these legions of female followers, do you need to understand hockey to enjoy this show or not really? Absolutely not. Okay. Not even a little bit.
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Got it. It's just kind of like the hockey aspect, I would say, is another character in the story. yeah. yeah But not it's not integral. It is... it is um Yeah, HBO Max.
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I knew it. Yeah, it's HBO Max. HBO is the only place where they're going all these like graphic scenes on every show they do. Cinemax. Remember they used to call it Skinemax. Skinemax. It was such a huge thing when I was in high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember those days. HBO definitely.
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I remember when I first watched Game of Thrones, I was like, what the fuck is going here? haven't watched it.
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I know. You want to watch like gratuitous sex and violence. You watch Game of Thrones. Like what the hell is going on here? feel like in the first episode, there was some um incestuous insanity happening. And I was in like some mood, I guess that day. And I was just like, oh, I'm so not in the mood for this. And I, so I turned it off. Yeah.
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And then I just never went back. And then everybody around me watched it and rants and raves about it and they love it and they think it's amazing. Yeah. And then I look at it now and I'm

Understanding Criterion Channel

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like, oh, that's a lot of time. They're trying renew it. I mean, i just saw ad. It's like, hey, it's like a 10-year anniversary or something like that. So like relaunch, rewatch, blah, blah, blah.
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Really? Oh, like, relaunch it? Like, continue the story? Well, no, no. They've had, you missed, like, so they've had Game of Thrones, and then they've had several spinoffs. There's House of Dragons. Right. All these prequels, right? Like, I know of them, but I haven't watched them. Yeah, yeah. And there's another one about something, a knight's tale or something. It's about just following a, just some random,
00:09:45
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kid turning into a night poor kid turning into night anyways all good stuff I love the all the stories in the spin-offs kind of like getting in into Star Wars but but like I said but if you want to watch gratuitous sex and violence that's the make-believe world that's the series to watch yeah I think HBO Max is a really good provider ah they know their audience yeah yeah that kind of that kind of sex and violence people who knew Yeah, well, you know what's really funny? um So we we have Criterion.
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I've about that. Criterion channel. Yeah, yeah. which is amazing. If you if you're truly a movie lover yeah and you really enjoy zero Yeah, we don't remember what we were talking about until we got rudely cut off by Jessica's microphone.
00:10:33
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Yeah. Technical difficulties. So never a dull moment here. Oh, Criterion Channel. Criterion Channel. Right, no, because we were talking about sex and violence. Yeah. And so... Wait, do you have the vote? Isn't Criterion Channel where all these are like super, super high-end, like well-regarded movies, shows? Yes, that's where it is. and so But who votes for them?
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I actually don't know the answer to that. Somebody does. Some critics. some critics they're Right. There's something... i don't know what the... And I probably should have looked it up, but I really didn't expect to talk about this at all. problem the preiumm round um So I don't know who runs Criterion. like I don't know what it is. I do know that you know critically acclaimed films are the ones that are always chosen for this. And they do...
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spotlights on directors and spotlights on, you know, producers. And what they do is they'll take, let's just say they take Stanley Kubrick yeah for instance. Right. And what they'll do is they'll pick six Kubrick films for 30 days that you can watch.
00:11:39
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Oh yeah. It's actually very, very cool. That's a unique concept. Yeah. Yeah, it's super cool. i'll take ah I'll try to see if I can take a screenshot of it. okay The only reason i know about it is because I listen to the Myers brothers.
00:11:52
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Okay. ah Seth Myers, Josh Myers. Right. um They have a podcast about family trips. It's pretty cool. They just interview lots of celebrities about their youth and their family trips. Yeah, yeah. pretty fun. That's And then, and he says this guy's so busy.
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Because he still has a talk show, right? And then he does the podcast. I have no idea. Does he? I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Late Night with Seth Meyers. I'm pretty sure it's still on. And then on top of his family ah family trips podcast, he also records another one ah called The Lonely Island podcast with Seth Meyers.
00:12:31
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Okay. And that's, um he's on it with his old Saturday Night Live buddies. Mm-hmm. So you've got- That's fun.
00:12:46
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shoot, Sam, Andy Samberg. Oh, I love him. Yeah. Andy Samberg and a few other guys. So there's four them and Yorm. What's that, Yorm? Anyways, they're like writers from the SNL days and they go through all these old SNL episodes and talk about how they produce certain skits and everything.
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um And they're always referring to, it is this a criterion? Does this qualify for criterion? Right. is this Does this episode is a criterion? And some celebrities will get and say, yeah, I think so. no not not this one. Not quite. but but And so that's the only reason I know about it. Okay. um I didn't realize you could pay for it.
00:13:24
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Yes, you can. you subscribe to it. Yeah, you can subscribe to it. It's an app. Oh, cool. It is much check it out so worth it if you love film. how much e How much you pay?
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That is a very good question. of my Korean friends is like that every time we talk about stuff. How much you pay? I actually don't know the answer because um I'm not the one who ordered it.
00:13:49
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Got it. Free Rider. I love it. Yeah, I don't know. i just kind of like, I roll with it. Yep. I hear you. Yeah, I mean, and you know, I'm looking at the web website right now and i there's really nothing that, oh, our mission, I guess.
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Criterion Collection has been dedicating to publishing important classic and contemporary films from around the world in editions that offer the highest technical quality and award-winning original supplements. Cool. Okay.
00:14:19
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Yeah, but that's all it has. It's like watching the Oscars or the Golden Globes. Nobody really knows who the people are. Well, that's it. Oh, thank you to the Hollywood Foreign Press. Who the fuck are those people? Right? Who are they? how do become one of them? Mysterious people that vote for these awards. I know. Interesting.
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I don't really understand. Okay, I'm going check that out. Thank

Community News: Baby Announcements

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you for that. Yeah, you're Before forget. Yeah.
00:14:43
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There are two newborns on the way, which I'm really excited about for my friends. that's sweet. So call out to them. One of them is in in my building, neighbor, guy I work for.
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ah And his wife is a like a really famous woman. principal ballerina. Oh, how nice. And so, so happy for them. I think June or July arrival date.
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ah So good for them. Happy to help out and and help install the car seat. there in a gro It's probably a two man job. 18 years ago. ah But yeah, so congrats to them. i think ah my buddy Dan listens every once in a while. So hello to you and congrats again to you and your beautiful wife for the upcoming baby. But the other baby, which you will,
00:15:36
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you know the person, but you don't know about, is Coach Brian. Oh, no way. Yeah. Bree's pregnant? Yep. Coach Brian, again, like a June, I keep can't keep track, June or July. I mean, both couples, they're going to be super, super parents. Super awesome parents. June or That's like impending. I know. So super awesome parents.
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No, I mean... you know i knew a while ago, but it's not my news to share. and and you know how it is. People sense it. And then and then now it's like you're sort of two-thirds of the way there. Okay, it's kind of safe. Right. Normally I think the the superstition is 12 weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. ah I mean, as someone who's birthed children, yes the superstition is generally 12 weeks. Yeah. So, you know, for some 20 weeks, because the 20 weeks a lot of ground are, you know, more sensitive. I'm just being respectful the whole bit. But but now i'm like, OK, hey, you guys are super parents. Congratulations to you. I look forward dropping by and laughing at you. Yeah. because i Yeah. I can't wait to point and laugh. we I do have interesting conversations in our building. I had one yesterday with a four year old about Optimus Prime.
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Oh, Transformers. I love this. I'm like, what? Transformers are still a thing. She's like, they're still a thing. They were a thing when we were kids. Oh, yeah. Still Optimus Prime, Megatron, Bumblebee, blah, blah, the whole crew. I'm like, oh, my God. love those films. I love that. Those movies are so fun. That's so awesome that kids are still playing with Transformers. Transformers. And Thomas the Train? Sure.
00:17:07
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Oh, yeah. Thomas is still a thing. And I was just thinking the other day about I don't know if it's still on, the crazy shows that I kid you to watch. Do you remember Bubble Guppies?
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Wonder Pets? Oh, my God. I love the Wonder Pets. Wonder Pets. The phone is ringing. Oh, my God. Holy shit. There's so many of those cartoons. Like, oh, wow. Damn.
00:17:31
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Did you ever watch World World on PBS? bird world no word world de word world no yeah oh yes what's that i know npr what well i'm talking like you know 15 16 17 years ago but oh my god what a great show it was do kids watch sesame street anymore no yeah i think they do they do sesame street still going sure ah muppets oh my god the muppets dude you know that disney bought the muppets Oh, that's right. So they're putting Muppet World at Hollywood Studios.
00:18:03
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And they're changing the rocking coaster that was sponsored by Aerosmith. So it was like an Aerosmith themed coaster. And now they're making it Muppets themed. ah h Awesome.
00:18:14
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What else have kids watched? Ni Hao Kailan. Oh, I love Ni Hao Kailan. And then Dora the Explorer. Yeah, she was the worst. Diego. Diego was pretty bad too. Yeah, he was not. I was not excited about that. What is that? What is that? Always the... Shoot, what was that one they always picked on? What was the guy they always picked on? What the... Endor the Explorer. Oh, I don't remember.
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There's that... The... the It's not the enemy, the evil one. Yeah, I don't remember. Striker. Oh, yeah. Striker, no striking. Striker, no striking. I'm like, I still don't understand what that means. was like, what the hell is going on here? I don't either. I felt very confused by all of it, really. yeah Oh, my God. but Some of those shows were so good. Yeah. well so i hope Anyways, I hope these two newborns get to watch those shows so I can go back and walk down memory lane and hang out with them. Whatever you do, don't watch Miss Rachel. She sucks. Oh, I didn't know that one.
00:19:08
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Oh, she sucks. terrible. my My niece used to love her And then she kind of like came out as super pro-Palestinian. oh shit no kidding Yeah, well, I mean, she literally had like one of the, so one of the press, and I'm throwing air quotes up. Yeah, yeah. One the press guys up from Gaza who's not, I mean, there is no free press in Gaza. So, you know, people correlated it to her supporting Hamas. It was a huge thing. Oh.
00:19:36
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And so now she just spends all of her days basically... touting the likes of guys like Mark Ruffalo and Susan Sarandon who are raging anti-Semite. Oh, yeah. Right. That's crazy. well All children. All children. It's just like, okay, that is not all children. What's that other actress of that movie, right? Was it was it Cinderella? Beauty and the Beast. you know but Remember that actress? 18, 19-year-old? And it was like a big Disney show. Rachel...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and then like she went off on this, like was it pro-Palestinian thing? Oh, yeah. And pissed off and didn't want to watch the show and got boycotted. It was Snow White. Snow White. and so why That's it. Because she played Snow White. and Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Al Godot, who's Israeli, was playing the witch? No. Was she playing the witch?
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I don't know who she was playing. I think so. yeah Whatever. So no one watched it. i was like, oops. No, it was a computer huge it was a huge loss for Disney after have to put as much money into it. um Yeah.
00:20:36
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Cancer culture live and well. yeah Well, you know what? Listen, you can say whatever you want. It doesn't mean you're free from consequence. Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely true. Additionally, your First Amendment's right. Don't protect hate speech.
00:20:49
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So, you know, there' is there's definitely stuff that needs to be considered. iCarly. you remember iCarly? Do you remember iCarly? I remember that. Salmon Cat. Oh, my God. Salmon Cat. When Ariana Grande was just like a ah tween, ah an airhead character tween on the show Salmon Cat. Yeah. Before she came out and started like really belting out her songs and becoming a woman.
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A woman. wo-man. wo-man. wo-man. my God. Yeah. Holy cow. ah Okay. Well, that was nice walk down memory lane.

Digital Scams and Apple Pay

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I have a new scam. PSA for people. New scam happened to my wife. Oh no. Credit card scam. I mean, it's the usual credit card fraud, right? We always come across. Somebody's website gets hacked. Oh, no.
00:21:43
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Whatever. Somebody steals your information. The restaurant person scans your card in the back while they're paying. Right. Go on a shopping experience. And that's fine. Like, you know, we use Amex and they always protect you. It's no big deal. But the new one, and I could be late to the party.
00:21:58
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But the new one is, okay, and I'm sure all the credit cards do this, but you have Apple Pay, and then you spend on your card, and then you discover there's fraud, and then you call in the credit card companies, hey, there's fraud, i need a new card. Sure, no problem.
00:22:12
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So your current card is canceled, but we can update your digital token inside your phone, and so your phone immediately gets the new card details. You can tap and pay for stuff, but you can't see the details in the physical card until it arrives couple days later.
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But now, as I found out, I was like, listen, then there's some fraud on my wife's card and it's like stupid. It's like $2 at Hulu. I'm like, come on. Well, they're trying to if going to notice. They're trying to see whether you notice, right? Yeah. so But so first it's Hulu. Hulu, I see like 12 transactions on Hulu.
00:22:45
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It's all pending, you know, Amex, you know, contacts. I'm like, yeah, it's not us. It's fraud. Okay. We have to give you new card for your web. Sure. No problem. New card. Before the new card even arrives, I see more fraud.
00:22:57
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Wonderful. I'm like, the fuck? I call Amix. I'm like, guys, the card hasn't even arrived yet and there's new fraud. And again, it's like $2, $2, some other bullshit. and ah And then I look closer and I'm oh, why does it say Apple Pay?
00:23:14
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was like, what? And then they're like, oh, yeah. Okay, so now the scam is they used to get your card and just spend. And then you cancel it and then party's over. But now, if they can find a way to add it to your to their Apple Pay on their phone, when you call Amex for a new card and they update your number, they get the updated number. So they keep spending.
00:23:39
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ah They keep tapping. It's a convenience feature, right? All the banks do that as a convenience. say hey, we know it's problematic and blah, blah, blah. So the physical card, old card doesn't work. We've updated your digital token. So your new, your, I mean, next time you do it, you'll see your phone immediately updates to the new number. You can tap it because under there,
00:23:59
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Yeah, it makes sense. Under their rules, it's your card, it's your phone, you tap it, you should be able to keep spending, off you go. But it doesn't account for the fact that someone else might have also added your card to their Apple Pay and in the system, recurring charges, Apple Pay charges, they just let them go through again. So then I had to call again before the card even, ah the second card even arrived and said, guys,
00:24:24
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And most people don't know this. This is why I'm bringing this up as a PSA. And that is you have to call the bank and tell them you need to revoke the digital token for my card.
00:24:35
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You're basically kicking out everybody who has this card on Apple Pay or any kind of auto ah Safari or whatever it is, the autofill. And then once that is done, okay, then you ask for the new card.
00:24:53
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And so then when that card arrives, only you have that data. That sucks. Yeah. That's okay. I mean, just added trouble. Yeah, but and when they you call them about fraud and you say to them, hey, you know, I need a new card. Yeah.
00:25:08
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Why wouldn't they just automatically reverse the token? Because they don't, I mean, again, like. You have to assume that all your cards are Apple Pay. that'll happen more more. But in the, you know, in the traditional sense, oh, and you get a couple bucks, new card, here's new card.
00:25:23
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Right. And if you don't, I'm sure if you met an experienced person on the other end and they look at the transaction that says Apple Pay and they say, this this wasn't you, right? No. Oh, okay. so we got to reset your token.
00:25:36
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For the most part, people are like, oh, I just need a new card because it was just, you know how it is. Like people just copy it at the in person. Right. And they don't really, oh, maybe it's a good question. Maybe it's not that prevalent yet. Right.
00:25:48
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that it's being hijacked for someone else's Apple Pay. Okay. And yeah, and maybe in a couple of weeks or months, it will be like, hey, every time you call for a new card, they reset the token.
00:26:00
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Right. Yeah. I mean, I would think that, you know, with Apple Pay being so prevalent and so part of society that it would just automatically happen if you had a fraudulent situation. Well, here's the thing, right? Hmm.
00:26:12
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So as I was trying to get to the bottom of who it might be with my wife, was like, I feel like traditional fraud, someone just grabs your card. And they go to the back and they just copy the numbers down, take a picture of it and they can go spend on it temporarily. Right. And then you say it's fraud. OK, fine.
00:26:30
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And then more advanced fraud is guys buying stuff on the dark web because they hacked whatever the sacks of the website and they stole everyone's data and now they're just selling it. And and I've seen like these articles. They'll sell like I don't know how they make money. It's like they'll sell 10,000 stolen credit card numbers for like five bucks.
00:26:49
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Wow. It's that cheap. really and they just keep selling them in volume over and over again. Okay, fine. Because they know that you know mo whoever buys them, most these cards have been canceled or not going to work. And so how much money are you really making? I have a question. Yeah. Do you think that these are the same guys that are aggregating all these dead people's driver's license numbers and supplying them to people who make fake IDs, right? It's the same people. Same people. Yeah, that's kind of what I think. Sitting in whatever, North Korea, Africa, Iran, China. right right right russia whatever yeah yeah uh same people Turkmenistan yeah yeah selling it for crypto um and then and then
00:27:28
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um but to get it to your apple pay yeah right especially for an amex card i was like okay you need my home address I think you need all the card details and especially for an Amex card where you can steal the card number, the expiry date and the four digits security on the front.
00:27:54
Speaker
Amex has another three digits only found on the signature strip on the back of your card. So that means the person who has all that information Clearly has your card. physics your card Right.
00:28:09
Speaker
Has your home address. Now, a restaurant guy doesn't have at doesn't even have your home address. Right. So then now it goes down to like, okay, a doctor's office because they would know oh your home address plus have the card when you pay a copay or something, right?
00:28:23
Speaker
Right. Yeah. They'd be tapping it because they are still old-fashioned, right? Yeah, yeah. Orโ€ฆ I was like, told my wife, maybe one of her nail salons something that. Like, cause again, oh no, one of her returns. Like once in a while she, went once in a while, my wife, the beauty of this, right? It's like yeah you order something online, it's free shipping. And then sometimes now they're catching on like, oh, we're going to charge you $9.95 for a return.
00:28:47
Speaker
Every time i buy something now, yeah I have that. Okay. And so I'm like, just pay Happy returns, like all them. I'm just pay she's like, what? I'm like, just pay it. It's worth it because I don't want you walking out to the store. But every once in a while, she's like, no, I refuse to pay and I'm going to go to the store. like, okay. So I'm like, so you go to the store and the receipt, because you an online order, your online receipt, you give them.
00:29:11
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Has your address. Has your address. Yep. And you got to give them your card. Right. To refund the money. So it could be one of those people. Yeah. Anyways, not that way I'm going to track down this person, but.
00:29:23
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I'd like to see the vigilante ism that goes into tracking down who this person is. I'm doing more to say it, to tell her, Hey, can you please be more careful handing over your card to people who also have your home address?
00:29:37
Speaker
Like, just tap it. Tap and pay. Right. They don't see anything. You tap it. I don't even take my cards out anymore. I just do everything with my Apple Pay. Well, think online too. Online, I'm like... If you are paranoid, then you use things like ShopPay, Apple Pay, where they change the number yes for the merchant.
00:29:56
Speaker
They don't actually see the real number. right But there are still people, like my wife, who diligently type in the number. Yeah, and I've done that. Right, help? Yeah. And then save. and I was like, why?
00:30:08
Speaker
And i was like, ShopPay, Amazon Pay, Google Pay, Apple Pay, all that is designed to protect you from fraud. That's right. Yeah. Right. It's true. Yeah.
00:30:20
Speaker
Any who's that was a long winded 10 minute example of watch out for Apple Pay scams, people. Yeah. I think, you know, I think now people are kind of in a in a headspace of desperation. hmm.
00:30:36
Speaker
You know, people are losing their jobs. People are, you know, just feeling desperate because everything's so much more expensive or getting more expensive. I went to the gas station today. yeah And, you know, if you pay cash, it's 409. If you pay for we with a credit card, it's 429 right now.
00:30:55
Speaker
But all of it's self-service here. And I feel like it should be the 409 or less. Like it should be less money because I got to do it myself. 429 divided by 409 is an extra 5%.
00:31:07
Speaker
five percent Right. But I think, i feel like it should be like 5% less on both ends because you're pumping your own gas. Like if I went to New Jersey, it's the same price and I'm not pumping my own gas. Yeah.
00:31:20
Speaker
It's even cheaper, actually. Yeah, or it's cheaper. Well, actually, I would argue that when I was there last week, I went and got gas, and it was about $4.29. But it was, I think, location-driven because I didn't realize I needed gas until I really needed gas because I wasn't paying enough attention.
00:31:36
Speaker
And so by the time I found something, it was more expensive than some of the other stations I had seen. Okay, but the price thing, it's taxes. That's the difference. And so whether you're pumping or not,
00:31:49
Speaker
When I go to New Jersey, I'm like, don't touch my car. That's funny. I'm pumping it myself. Like, what? I'm like, they're like, I don't care. Yeah, good. Once in a while, they're like, no, no, no, no. You can't do that. It's the law here. It's safety. Yeah. I'm like, okay, fine. But for the most part, most guys are lazy. Like, you want to pump your own gas? Sure. can it are Power to you, brother. Yeah.
00:32:08
Speaker
I actually like it when they pump my gas. I don't want them to do it because I don't want to wait. So I'm out there. I tap. I fill it up. I'm gone. And some of the busy stations, you wait for the guy to come back. It could be another like four minutes. I'm like, no, don't have that shit. I'm out of here. Yeah, I don't care.
00:32:23
Speaker
i like i like the fact that they're doing it. you tip guy? No, but I love that I don't tip the guy. I don't know if anybody, to how do you tip him? I've seen people tip the gas guy. like I don't carry cash really like that anymore. Tip cash. Unless I'm going on a trip. if i'm going on a trip yeah If I'm going on a trip, like an actual trip, I have tipping cash. But otherwise I don't carry tipping cash. You know, like singles, fives, you know, small bills. Like I don't do that.
00:32:48
Speaker
Does anybody do that on average? You walk around with like five singles, $5. I don't carry singles. I carry fives. Right. Okay. Right. But I'm not tipping the gas guy. Right.
00:32:58
Speaker
I think that they may be. People I've seen it. So I've never seen anybody tip them, but I feel like they do make a living wage because it is the law there. I've seen people tip like the Hertz bus guy.
00:33:10
Speaker
I'm like, what the fuck's going on here? The Hertz bus guy who takes you from the, from what? from The shuttle. The shuttle. Oh, I've tipped those guys. What? Are they helping you with your bags? that why? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that's different. Yeah, I mean, I don't tip anybody. Not just for driving, right? No, I don't tip anybody unless they're helping me personally. Fucking America. I swear to God. Yeah, The tipping thing is getting out of hand. Well, the tipping culture is definitely an issue.
00:33:32
Speaker
Pay people properly. mean, what the is the tips thing? Europeans think we're a joke because of tipping culture here. Oh, Japanese be offended. Tip Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I give you good service because I'm proud of my work and I get paid. I don't need your tip.
00:33:46
Speaker
Right, right. But here it's, you know, I mean, i don't know how much waitstaff makes on the books anymore. But when I did wait tables when I was, you know, early 20s, late teens, like I made $2. That's dishonest of the restaurants and places. And to honest, is like I think โ€“ And then I would work and people wouldn't tip.
00:34:05
Speaker
Right. yeah so Like, you know, and I would bust my ass all the time, yeah which is why the restaurant business to me is. Yeah. You know, well I think if you're a good I know it's rare, but there are definitely restaurants out there where say hey, we're paying you a living wage and the tips are really extra on top, which is great, as opposed to what most restaurants, how they scammed people and the delivery drivers up until recently where it was like, we owe you 15 bucks an hour. And if you manage to get $10 tip, we only pay you five.
00:34:34
Speaker
like dude You can't fucking do that. You owe me 15 bucks an hour. That's the thing I've never understood. And that's an American thing. It is an American thing. About taking money away from you yeah if you make tips. Yeah.
00:34:44
Speaker
Well, and then the other thing that I always found a little bit ah questionable, I guess, was the pooling of tips. Oh, yeah. Like the pooling of tips. yeah The only time that I find it accessible is for workers like busboys who are support workers who don't make tips directly like or bartenders. like like ah And they don't have sections either. There's like whatever needs to be clean that's right cleaned, I clean. Right. right As opposed to servers with their sections. Right. Right. But the the whole entire notion of pool tips for waitstaff and then trickle down from there, I think is... Is a kind of fairness thing they're trying to achieve?
00:35:18
Speaker
I don't know. But you know but it it really doesn't... um It's not a motivating factor, right? If you're pooling tips and you're busting your ass and the next person isn't, they're getting the same amount of tips. Yeah.
00:35:31
Speaker
that you see that That's right. And that's okay. So overall, I think culturally that's that's generally an issue here in since ah in the sense of going to places like Europe or Asia and say, Hey, your service, your level of service is not getting better or worse.
00:35:48
Speaker
in the absence of a tip. Right. We're getting paid. And if you want to give us tip, that's cool. And so you if you're the kind of person that wants to throw money around, you're not getting better service. You might be disappointed because I'm working for my paycheck and maybe this gets pooled.
00:36:07
Speaker
I think in theory, the pooling of tips probably only works if you could conceptually guarantee that everybody who works for you is giving the best level of service.
00:36:18
Speaker
Right. We know in real life that's not true. And that's, I think, what gives rise in America to more tipping is because people are trying to buy favors. Right.
00:36:31
Speaker
Better service, better seat, better whatever, by giving this person more money. Whereas in other places, I i do remember. My God, she'll listen to this. she shell She'll laugh. I do remember when I first moved to Asia to work.
00:36:49
Speaker
Okay. If you try to tip somebody, they would look at you funny and not not root they and anything would not Not insulted like they would be in Japan. Right. But more just bewildered. Like, no, no, I think you gave me too much. We already charged you 10% as a service fee.
00:37:07
Speaker
Right. And so if it's $100, they billed $100, which includes your 10%. Give me $110. They're so honest. They would give me back $10. Right.
00:37:18
Speaker
And I'm like, no, you can keep that. And they're like, huh? I was like, it's for you. right There's no strings attached to this. Thank you for your service. And they're like shocked. Obviously, it's changed over the years. But um yeah.
00:37:32
Speaker
I do that though. American thing. It is uniquely an American thing. And then when Americans go to other places and they try to tip, it's like... Well, because they they only know their own yeah you you your culture. But, you know, you have to assume that or no, I guess you don't have to assume anything. You would like to think, let me rephrase, you would like to think that when people start to book a trip in other countries and other cultures that they would have an understanding of the nuance before they go. But I think that generally Americans are, and this is ah a very generalization type thing to say, but I think that there's a lot of narcissism in the U.S. Yeah. And so when they go to other countries, when they go to other countries, they don't do that research. They bring their culture with them.
00:38:16
Speaker
Right. I mean, and language, you know, like they don't try to speak anything else. So on one of our trips, like a long time ago, like more than 15 years ago to Italy, remember my whole trip with the glass factory in Venice and how they wouldn't bring us back because we didn't buy anything? yeah so Yes. after Venice, we went to the island of Capri.
00:38:41
Speaker
Okay. Positano. Right. Beautiful. Totally. Yeah. And one of the, again, like, you know, Americans say like, people don't tip blah blah blah, blah, blah, blah. No one expects it. And people kept telling me that. I'm like, you say that. And then I took this, like, they did this really weird boat tours.
00:38:59
Speaker
where they would, you know, it's not like gondola type of thing in Venice, but this is in Positano and Capri, actually Positano. And then they took you to this cave to show you like the underwater structures and everything. i Took you to a cave to drown you. And I was like, and it was like, a it was my God, it was like, it was like an assembly line. i was like, what? There's like 30 gondolas just going back and forth, back and forth to this sort of thing and this tour guide. And I remember at one time, at one point i was like, okay, now I know we're in the ultimate tourist trap because I still remember this vividly.
00:39:31
Speaker
and look at my wife. She wanted to do this thing. And the guy said, look, it's the baby Jesus. It's the baby Jesus. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? He's pointing at some underwater, like, was it stalagmite, whatever, structure. Okay. it I mean, it was a stretch.
00:39:49
Speaker
But they're basically saying that that that structure looks like the manger and all that kind of stuff, right? Okay. The baby Jesus. Okay. Fine, whatever. Fine. All right. i get it You have to put on a show for the tourists. And then we leave.
00:40:03
Speaker
And then we leave at the end. And... if I don't recall. i It may have cost like 30 or 40 euros. Okay. At the time to take this thing. So we do it. Right. And I see, ah you know, all the as stupid Americans tipping. Okay, fine. like Do whatever. Here's 10 and just leave me alone. Right. Okay. And he's like, that's not enough, sir. Oh, no. Like, excuse me. What?
00:40:28
Speaker
He's like, the tip should be higher. I'm like, I thought I was in Europe and people don't tip. And so this 10 euros should make you happy. So I tell my friends, like, okay. And again, that's a tourist trap area. they're used to Americans. But it's not true that most of Europe in these places don't get offended or get offended, don't expect the tip. There are some tourist traps where they're totally trying to hustle you. I was like, you're not getting...
00:40:49
Speaker
i was like if you ask me again i want the 10 euros back that i gave you because i'm like what did you do you rode this freaking gondola into a cave and gave me a fake baby jesus gave me a fake religious experience and then you sent me back to the shore it's like a seven minute round trip it's almost like getting on the small world ride at disney i love and then the guy at the end when they lift the gates up can i have a tip it's like are you fucking I know. I know. I have to say, and my kids hate that ride. I love that ride. yeah Yeah. But it's like that. Yeah. What if somebody at the small world, you got out, they opened the gate, they put their hand out and said, tip oh, there's a fight. Excuse me for a second.
00:41:26
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Holy fight.
00:41:30
Speaker
Every time there's a door that's closed that gets knocked on or opened, I'm telling you, he is the most protective listen animal. Jessica is okay. I'm fine. dog okay. And the person who knocked on the door is fine. And no one's face got ripped off. Nope.
00:41:46
Speaker
By the no pit bull. Sorry. The pit bull posing as a, what was it? What do they claim it was again? ah Labrador. The pit bull. The pit bull rescue that's posing as a Labrador. Labrador. According rescue.
00:42:00
Speaker
He's a Labrador. He's a Labradorable. Oh, my God. With the mansion, the Fresh Prince of Bel Air yeah rears his head to protect Jessica.
00:42:11
Speaker
I got love it. then wonder you won't give him back. Oh, I do. Nobody's taking him. No one wants him back. But you won't give him back at this rate. Yeah, seriously. i mean, honestly, i he he would he would kill someone on the street if they came to like yeah hit me, do anything towards me. I think that he would really... And he's and he's fine otherwise. yeah i mean, otherwise, he just minds his own business. He likes to go and... smell and pee on things and he's fine and he you know he's curious about people just a regular average dog yeah he doesn't lunge at anybody he doesn't bark at anybody nothing but if someone came and tried to hurt me or lunged at me he would definitely intervene yeah yeah well I have a guest hello guest you'd be happy to know that nobody what's up bro nobody no dog owner or no dog walker has let their dog jump on me today Oh, I'm so proud of you. I'm so happy for you. Which is good. It is good. yeah Because that's rude. Yeah.
00:43:11
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, I got so many comments, by the way, from our last episode about... The bike, the bikers. ah The by self-righteous bikers. God, they're all self-righteous. There's the narcissism. Yeah, yeah. And and I'm telling you, that's one of my best analogies.
00:43:28
Speaker
Putting the helmet on. Bye, Francis. Later, bro. you Be in touch. Don't be a stranger.
00:43:38
Speaker
oh and and um maybe our picture. Maybe our episode picture will need to be, I think they've started delivering the actual jail cells across the street from me.
00:43:52
Speaker
Oh my God. They're covered. It's like, okay, I'll just wait to I'll send you a picture. But it's awesome they come pre-assembled. Oh, I mean, so, okay. There's all these white cubicle looking packages that have showed up on every floor.
00:44:07
Speaker
And like 10 or 20 of them. I'm like, what could that be? i was like, server? No, it's a jail. It's not a server farm. ah Wouldn't it be great as cubicle if it was a server farm masquerading as jail?
00:44:20
Speaker
I know, exactly. And I was like, those have got to be jail cells because was like, they're tiny. Do they look like they're 10 by 10? They look, hey from where I stand, they look like they're 5 by 10.
00:44:33
Speaker
Oh, that's really small. That's really fucking small, right? Yeah, that's really small. Maybe that's not a jail cell, but there's so many of them. They're being delivered as cubicles. It's got to be a jail cell. I wonder if there's an office floor that has the need for that kind of... You know what?
00:44:50
Speaker
Yes. i That it will be our podcast episode picture. Excellent. And people who listen, please look at the picture and tell me whether you think that is a jail cell. Neat opinions. Being delivered.
00:45:00
Speaker
Yeah. I also did see three porta-potties being raised to the top floor of the construction today. Yeah. Oh, good. They have somewhere to go pee and poo. You gotta go pee if you're on the 20th floor and constructing a jail. Because everybody poops, don't you know?
00:45:15
Speaker
all right, Jessica, you got 10 or fewer minutes to talk about something before we go into dad jokes. I want to talk about Arizona State University. Ooh.
00:45:27
Speaker
Let's do it. What you got? um So I don't know if you saw. i don't know if you follow their socials. Nope. I do follow their socials. Okay. And they have a player who's make who I think last night maybe was made his NHL debut.
00:45:42
Speaker
Who? His name. Maxwell Predators guy? um Hold on. Let me make sure I don't mess this up. Because thats saw that guy. Hold on one second. Yeah.
00:45:54
Speaker
I want to make sure I don't screw this up. I mean, a lot of a lot of rookies made their debuts the last the last week or so because it's sort of ah not meaningless but almost meaningless games when you have a playoff contender against a non-playoff contender.
00:46:13
Speaker
Right. So they're getting all these rookies are getting... How come I can't find it now? I had it. I thought I had it bookmarked. This is so annoying. um I forgot his name, which does not bode well for me, by the way. This is an age thing that is now. it flicks both of us.
00:46:30
Speaker
Don't worry. Holy. Because I had something this morning that I want talk to talk you about on the podcast that I learned. And I was like oh, this is going awesome for the podcast. And by the time I got to my desk, I'd forgotten it already. Oh, it's so bad, right? Like, it's really bad. let me see. There was a Nashville Predator kid last night, for sure, because he got a pass from Stamkos. He scored his goal.
00:46:52
Speaker
He's from Edmonton, i think it was. Uh, 23 years old. Forgot his name. Uh, but his parents were the stands. Everyone happy, happy, happy.
00:47:06
Speaker
i can' Then there was a Vancouver kid, not Vancouver kid, sorry, Vancouver player against Edmonton last night in Edmonton. His parents were there and somehow ended the breakaway and he scored.
00:47:18
Speaker
So congrats to him.
00:47:23
Speaker
Oh, this is killing me. The brain fart is just a... It's such a terrible... only have eight more minutes, Jessica, to find this name. It's so bad. think it is the Predators guy. Must be the guy. Is it Cole O'Hara? Yeah, that's the guy. Predators guy. Yeah.
00:47:38
Speaker
Good for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. a nice Yeah, it was... ah Yeah, it popped up in my feed. you know like i don't i don't really um yep follow them that much. you know and And my algorithm is very strange. It was a class act. He scored a goal. damn goes I think he's captain.
00:47:57
Speaker
Right to the net. Pick of yeah it's pretty awesome um That's a keeper. It's pretty awesome. yeah But you know, rookie at 23? Fuck, that's got hurt, man. Well, why? why Why?
00:48:10
Speaker
i mean, a rookie at any age in the NHL doesn't hurt. I think in the grand scheme of you know what we know about hockey and getting there, obviously a lot of blood, sweat, and tears went into, and dedication went into playing, getting drafted, playing in the minors, getting finally called up at 23. It's hard. Most people give up by like 2021.
00:48:32
Speaker
Because yeah i think you forget that most of these guys get drafted at 18, right? Yeah. As opposed to someone who gets drafted at 21, 22. That's different. right then Then you just showed up and you're there. So I don't know his journey. So, right. He could have been.
00:48:47
Speaker
Did he do all fours at ASU? No. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't think so. That's what i figured. I don't think you did. Probably did two and then left. Actually, I'm not even sure that this is the right guy. Different guy?
00:48:59
Speaker
It might be a different guy. I thought you were going to about ASU, I saw something about the portal. Oh, what did you say about the transfer portal? there was like four or five ASU guys leaving.
00:49:10
Speaker
No kidding, really? I like, Jesus. Yeah, because and it's like you have to imagine all these. And so then obviously when they leave, ASU is picking up people to come and fill their shoes. But generally, if you're in the transfer portal, you're not happy that you're not playing, right?
00:49:25
Speaker
Right. unless you know Unless you go to Mercyhurst and they bail on the program and you get 24 guys into the portal after being totally was that they recruited one week before. did you see Yeah, you do that was the guy, right? they they The gnaw put up the post saying, congratulations, going to Mercyhurst. And all the comments like, ah dude, they shut the program down like a week ago. Why would you even put this on Instagram? It's like you're put pouring salt into the wound. This guy's got to go find a new school to go to. Yeah, right. I mean, so, you know, the one thing that I haven't been able to figure out is how bad does a program need to fail or what is the failure of that program in order for them to get rid of it?
00:50:07
Speaker
It's just money. Yeah. They think they can't compete. They need the money for something else. Yeah. um And I think that the reality is I don't know where Mercyhurst is academically on the on the U.S. news, whatever they use for ranking. Right. But right now, if you are outside of the top 60 or 70 schools, right your enrollment has dropped by double digits.
00:50:34
Speaker
And then the people that are coming, they want free or subsidized education and you're not getting donations. So there are lot of schools, which we're going to see in the next 10 years, that will drop these programs because...
00:50:46
Speaker
That's what you cut first. Yeah. Even though, I think even though it's shown that having sports teams, successful sports programs is what draws a lot of students to your school.
00:50:59
Speaker
Right. even Even just the academic ones, because and I've met a lot of plenty of kids in recent years who tell me, I want to go to Michigan i about and not for any academic program. They're smart kids. I want to go because I want a Big Ten school. I want to go to football games. I want to to hockey Right. Okay, cool. I didn't realize that, but yeah, I get that in America. And so I think it's a mistake for some of these schools to cancel those kind of programs um because then it it just exacerbates the the lack of applications okay and people that want to attend your school.
00:51:30
Speaker
Right. Right? And hockey is like the number three sport, right? It's football, then it's basketball, and then it's hockey, and then no one else matters. To be honest, right that's really what it looks like. And even the gap from, as you and I have talked about before, the gap between football, basketball, the hockey is massive. It's huge. essentially Football, 70%.
00:51:49
Speaker
seventy percent Yeah, it's bananas. Basketball, 27%. And then the remaining 3% is hockey and everybody else, right? Yeah, which is crazy. i mean, it's just say it it's a huge, yeah you know. So if you're Mercyhurst, I think, and you have football and you have basketball, I don't know if they do but if they do, then hockey doesn't matter.
00:52:09
Speaker
Right. I could see that. We're out. The money, the recruitment, the money they would have to pay people, they think, under NIL to field a good team. I think a lot of those teams, like Mercyhurst, they feel like all the southern colleges like ASU, Alabama, all these places, Georgia, who want to go from club to D1 and are willing to spend money. Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:34
Speaker
Yeah, you can't compete. Right. Yeah, I can see that. kind think So it'll be interesting. I think definitely you'll see more of that. But there's definitely lots of schools in the Northeast, small liberal arts colleges that are literally going bust. Like you'll see more and more. I've seen a couple articles already this year. There's going more in the coming years. They just...
00:52:54
Speaker
You can't hang on the students. Then you can't hang on the professors. you can't now Now the buildings are being rented out to refugees or hockey teams or whatever junior teams or whatever it is just to fill the dorm.
00:53:05
Speaker
Yeah. Right? And then it just it just snowballs like, oh, this is just an empty campus. Who wants to come here now? So give me an example. Do you remember and but um one of them off the top of your head?
00:53:17
Speaker
um Keep talking. I'll dig it up for you because I just sent the article to somebody. Yeah, because I haven't seen that article, but I'd be curious to know where those, like which schools are referenced in an article like that.
00:53:32
Speaker
um The latest one I saw was a liberal arts school in, I want to say New Hampshire or Vermont or something. small school. Mass.
00:53:44
Speaker
But it had like some big people that went there. Yeah, small, small. I mean, it's like these are sort of, I would say, 5,000 to 7,000 student kind of places. Okay.
00:53:56
Speaker
um yeah But they have been around for 100 Right. Right. And um have certain kind of programs that do really well. um But then they they just can't survive. what's the latest one That's a shame.
00:54:11
Speaker
It is. It's a real shame. spot name Oh, this is called the last one I saw was Hampshire College. I've never heard of it. It's like... Doesn't mean it's not good. I've just never heard of it. No, no. um It's like, well, I mean, you know, but when the one that everyone picks on, Bemidji and Mercyhurst. I mean, all these places like, you you know, i don't know.
00:54:32
Speaker
i didn't even know about Mercyhurst until like we started talking about hockey, you know, college hockey. Yeah, right. actually I had no idea. From an academic standpoint. Nope. Right. So this one, Hampshire College, is a 56-year-old college.
00:54:47
Speaker
Some people try to raise money. but More than 300 U.S. colleges and universities closed from 08 to 2024. And I would say those are really like the Trump University bullshit types. Those are just out...
00:55:01
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really just out to cheap people. But it's definitely coming to roost where if you're a small college and I think you're out of the top 70 to 80 on the rankings, you just don't have the funding.
00:55:16
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And the thing is like, as you and I talked about, like, you know, in general, even though we figured out that there is some discounting going on between different places, the cost of running college is the same.
00:55:28
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but In fact, you'd argue that a small college that is 5,000 students students costs more per student to run, right? Right.
00:55:38
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right Because teachers cost what they cost, buildings cost what they cost, land cost what cost. And so ah you need to be at a big sort of 30, 40, 50,000 student institution to really be able to get some kind of scale, economies of scale for your teaching.
00:55:55
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Otherwise, you're putting a lot of pressure. Or you or you have to be like, you know, an Ivy and have like a billion dollars in your in your endowment to pull from. Right. Because otherwise you can't, you can't survive. Right.
00:56:09
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Right. Well, yeah, it's interesting, too, because, you know, I know you were watching Rooster and I'm watching Rooster. Yeah, right. And so
00:56:18
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yeah that's exactly what came into my mind. yeah You know, I was watching John C. McGinley have a conversation about, you know, budgets and, you know, having to cut publishing because it's not part of the green initiative. Right. From the program that draws a lot of people. Right.
00:56:34
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You know, and like the other administrator whose character name I can't remember, but he was um Cameron from Ferris Bueller. Oh, yeah. I can't remember his name right now. It's driving me crazy. This whole thing is making me crazy. But, ah you know, when he like walks away yeah from the English teacher and he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, we're going to put all the poets names on the back of the church. He's walking. Yeah. yeah Like that's kind of what's conjured in my head right now in this conversation. yeah But you done yeah, it's, it's, it's, uh, yeah. It just, you know, it's funny with, with so few D one schools for hockey, I was a little surprised that the program went bust.
00:57:13
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I mean, so 60 D1 schools, okay, is my recollection. Right. Something like that. You'll pick up a few more. You'll pick up like two or three, four maybe in the next couple of years. Yeah. And you'll lose a couple. So let's say net-net's still 60.
00:57:27
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And then to be honest, is like 30? thirty You and I do not know. Yeah. What? That's D1? Yeah. Because people also forget like just because it says D1, We're all thinking Big Ten, ACC, D1. Right. On ESPN. Yeah.
00:57:46
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People filling stadiums to watch them, right? Yeah. But that's not it. That's not it. no ah Like Lindenwood? Yeah. that's that The D1 that we know is like a quarter of D1, right? Right. The rest of D1 are schools that have pumped money into the program. Yes. They're in D1. They don't even have to be part of a conference. Nope.
00:58:06
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Right? And can declare D1. And so what? Right. and lose every game. Yeah. So that's the other misnomer. Is that the right word? Misnomer for kids. Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, there's a D1 doesn't mean it's good.
00:58:19
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Right. and And just be, well, but if you wanted to play D1 college hockey, right, it depends on where your priority is. Okay. So if you're not playing D1, let's say Michigan and all these, you know, BU and whatever, all these really good hockey schools, right? Yeah. Then are you playing D1, one, to say you're D1, like the AAA scam, and then two, because you want to, you want money. Right. Right.
00:58:42
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Right. That's yeah probably what it is. yeah Right. Probably. it's As opposed to. But, you know, it's like you can only. You're playing D1 because you're headed to the NHL. Right. But I mean, if you you know, besides the money aspect, let's yeah let's, you know, the e the financial aspect put aside, if you don't have good players to float that program, then the program dies anyway. Right.
00:59:01
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Totally. Regardless of funding, right? Sure. So when you start looking at these other D1 programs that are unknown to the rest of us who only know big name schools, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:59:13
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There are people clamoring to go there who are, you know, good hockey players who won't get to go to University of Minnesota or Cornell or whatever, right Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they still need to get into the school. And not every...
00:59:27
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Sure. You know, not every kid is able to be good enough to go play hockey and to get into school, let's say like Harvard or Yale. Right. Because, you know, like we know you still need to get into the school.
00:59:40
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um So, you know, these other schools, I mean, that you've never heard of. Have you know i mean heard of Augustana University? No. Like, where's that? Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Of course not. Have you heard, keep picking on Bemidji, so I'm not go to pick on them.
00:59:54
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Have you heard of Kinesias? Yes, Kinesias. I know. It's upstate. I don't know that. Yeah. Oh, okay. Have you heard of have you heard of Harvard? No, not at No. no lake superior state no i'm guessing it's in new york though uh you'd be wrong it would be in sault Ste. Marie Michigan oh yeah that makes more sense doesn't make more sense no then then when we picked on already liu we always pick on uh maryville university no i don't know missoura yeah well isn't that where lindenwood is too
01:00:31
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lindenwood is oh yeah i didn't know that st charles missouri was probably missouri um let see what else you who else can we pick on who else can we pick on i think it's unfair that minnesota has so many that's minnesota well it's high school hockey driven probably yeah yeah yeah for sure um have you heard of princeton no
01:00:57
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Robert Morris. I don't know that one. I do know that one. Pennsylvania. Moon Township. Okay. I do know of that one, actually. But I didn't know. Stonehill? I do know of Stonehill. But the only reason I know of so Stonehill is because my my son has talked about it in the past.
01:01:13
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Okay. He brought it up because I didn't know. You know, I was like, what are the, you know, what are the D1 schools that I wouldn't know? And yeah you just started listing

Education and Michigan Schools

01:01:21
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them. And I was like, yeah, I don't know any of these schools. Yeah. I was like, okay. Okay.
01:01:24
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Have you heard of Ferris State? Yes. I do know Ferris State. Michigan. Yep. Big Rapids. So there's a lot of these kind of those kind of schools that are out there. I do know Ferris State. All the big state schools obviously end up having, in the cold places, end up having good. But okay but even look look even Michigan. the Michigan technical Technological University, MTU. I'm like, what?
01:01:47
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yep And you got Western Michigan University. yeah but i think also right no like Michigan State, you you Michigan, bla bla bla verona but Michigan Technological University? man i don't know If you grew up in that area, is that like going to a Lindenwood or LIU? I have no idea. i have no idea. but you know it's like It's no different to me than you know when I discovered Gonzaga.
01:02:08
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right with the you know The first time they entered, you know the March Madness. like I had no idea where Gonzaga was either. yeah And now everybody knows where Gonzaga is I'm sure if I pull up the D3 names, we'd be even more lost. Oh, for sure.
01:02:21
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ah it at some of the schools that exist over there. 100%. Central State, Connecticut. i think What the hell is that? Yeah, I don't know.

Dad Jokes and Humor

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1,500 students. kind think Anyways. um Okay.
01:02:33
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Oh, God. Well, the time has come. Oh, God. i want... Wait. i We ended last... After we stopped recording last episode and I told you the age. So our it wasn't recorded. i Our listeners need to know that for the last six or seven episodes, the dad jokes I've been reading...
01:02:51
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and And kudos to you, Jessica, because people have said, hey, Jessica's smart. She's getting these. hu
01:02:58
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Those dad jokes were listed on the internet where I got them from. And the internet is the all-knowing being. Those were listed as dad jokes for little kids under the age of eight.
01:03:13
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Aww. So you were stumped by a lot of like yeah eight year old jokes. Yeah. I am upgrading you i don't today. i don't think like an eight year old. I'm upgrading you today to 10 to 11. Oh, goodness. All right. We're getting a little closer. We're still about 40 years off. But what else? The same as are you smarter than a fifth grader?
01:03:33
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No, because yeah i can do that. But that is 11. That is 10, 11. that is ten eleven Oh, yeah. Eleven. Yeah, yeah it would be. OK, here we go. Are you smarter than a fifth grader episode version? Oh, Lord. dad jokes Here we go. i need to get my music ready.
01:03:49
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OK, the buzzer. I love the buzzer. need to buzz you. OK, you'll get this one. Come on. ah What country's capital is growing the fastest?
01:04:01
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You might know this answer. What country's capital is growing the fastest? Oh my God.
01:04:12
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oh If you don't know it right away, I've stumped you. It's Dublin. yeah Holy shit. So the answer is Ireland. Every day it's Dublin. Yeah, I had to start rolling from like Spain and Portugal across Europe. There you go. You got it. Hey, you are smarter than a fifth grader.
01:04:30
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Yeah, that still remains to be seen, but we'll figure it out. Let's hear it. this This one I don't understand. Okay, then why are you giving me a joke that you don't understand? but Because I need your brain power.
01:04:42
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I need your brain power in this one. Okay. oh god This one is how much did buccaneers get paid?
01:04:50
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Hmm. We have both been, I know the answer and I've been stumped. How much did Buckner's get paid? Oh, I get it now. I get it now. Oh man, going so pissed. I am going to be pissed. I can't believe this is for 10 million pounds.
01:05:04
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One more. Yeah. No, I'm okay i not getting it. Not in less than 30 seconds for sure. No one's getting this, by the way. How much did Buccaneers get paid? And here's the answer. $3.14 an hour because it's the pie rate.
01:05:20
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Pirate. Oh, that's so bad. That's bad, right? That's bad. And let me tell you something. no one's getting that one. I'm also telling you a fifth grader's not getting that one. Because they haven't even done pie. Exactly.
01:05:30
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They haven't even done pie yet. Exactly. And they certainly are too young to make those nuanced type jokes. Pie. No. Pie day. No, no, no, no.
01:05:41
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I missed pie day this year. Hmm. Okay. Here's... um God. Okay. I love it when you start to chuckle to yourself knowing the answers. You'll love this one. This one's right up your alley. Great.
01:06:00
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Why did the grape cry? Why did the grape cry? Why did the grape cry? Grape.
01:06:13
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You won't get it, but you'll love it. I think I know. Oh, yeah. oh yeah Oh, sorry. No, that doesn't work probably. Tell me. Unless a cry is the same thing give it a word as a wine. Oh, no. No.
01:06:26
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That would not be it. No. Okay. Then no, I'm on the wrong path. Why did the grape cry? I don't know. Because its mom was in a jam. Oh, that's kind of funny. i I know you like it. You're not going to get that, but that's not bad. Yeah, that's kind of funny. i was good I was going more like it got stepped on and let out a little wine.
01:06:44
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Oh, i hey. that's where That's where my head went. That could work. which is really indicative of where my head's at right now. Yeah. Wine. Yeah, that's where my head went.
01:06:56
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It's all good. i was going to give you originally, what do French hedgehogs see on Groundhog Day? Oh, my God. I have no idea. i didn't know hedgehogs are French. What does a groundhog do? That's my American versus a song. A groundhog comes out. yeah A groundhog comes out of the ground on Groundhog Day ye and looks for his shadow. Right.
01:07:15
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And if he sees a shadow, It scares itself back into its house, yeah home, yeah and then we have a long winter. Yeah, six more weeks of winter.
01:07:27
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If he doesn't see his shadow, or he or she, excuse me, or they. That's your American narcissism too. If he, she, or they does not see you went there his, her, or their shadow, yeah then then it's an early spring. Yeah, I think okay i think so, yeah.
01:07:44
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ah This is Jokas. What do French hedgehogs see on Groundhog Day? Their chateau. Oh, that's so funny. That's really funny. I wouldn't. shut up but there's chateau Yeah, I probably wouldn't. have yeah but But I think stupid.
01:07:59
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Okay. Anyways, episode 46, In the Can. Whoops. I like in the can. Thank you very much. She likes it in the can. There it is again. Where are those friends who saw the first, oh, I can't believe she said that on the radio. Oh, my God.
01:08:12
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it was awesome. Thank you for your hard time. It was a lovely conversation. And before we go, you want to know. Inquiring minds want to know. Oh, God.
01:08:23
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Does the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air going to get another mansion to replace the one you return? Maybe. Okay. It's a possibility. it's It's going to depend on a lot of factors. but Okay.
01:08:38
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Yeah. But this time I need to be sure because I can't do the return rigmarole again. Okay. but i mean So you haven't ordered yet. You're looking for it. Oh, yeah. No, no. I haven't ordered anything yet. oh Okay. All right. now we're we're We're status quo for the moment. Stay tuned, people, for updates about the most spoiled dog in America. Thank you for listening to National Public Radio on this fine April afternoon.
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