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#42: Sh*t Everywhere
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#42: Sh*t Everywhere
It’s been 12 weeks and Jessica is still being exploited by the dog rescue network - no money, no medical help. And now that youth hockey is finally over, Francis can’t find enough hours in the car to listen to all his favorite podcasts. There’s mayhem on the horizon for future hockey parents, as USA Hockey launches the new national development league. As old man Francis keeps laughing at the mistakes created by AI, Jessica simultaneously loves and hates her daughter’s volleyball journey.
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Introduction to The Grocery Stick Podcast
00:00:02
Speaker
From a makeshift recording studio in Brooklyn, welcome to The Grocery Stick with Jessica and Francis. Shut the front door. That is not what we agreed upon. Francis and Jessica. Meh, ignore that.
00:00:13
Speaker
We're Brooklynites and friends.
Themes and Episode Announcement
00:00:15
Speaker
We're here to talk, laugh, commiserate, and argue about all things travel sports-related, kid-related, and plain old life-related. It's Francis and Jessica, or I quit.
00:00:23
Speaker
Shh. What's up? Episode 42. Jessica, we're on episode 42. It feels old.
00:00:35
Speaker
I think at 42 I started to feel old. It's certainly when my eyes started to go. How was your weekend? It was fine. how about yours? okay.
Fostering Dogs: Experiences and Legalities
00:00:45
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Time out. yeah How long have you now had this rescue for? It's been blur to me. 12 weeks.
00:00:53
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12 weeks. Yeah. Three months, if my math is correct. You're a good mathematician. You do basic really well. Three months you've had a rescue. Is that normal?
00:01:06
Speaker
Yes. It is normal. Really? Yeah. How long would you need to have this dog before you start getting worried? I'm not worried.
00:01:17
Speaker
At all? know I don't know that I would get worried. I just kind of feel like this is what it is right now. um I mean, I don't think he's being networked, if that's your question. No, no, I think it's part of my point. If that's your question. They gave it to you, and then you're a nice person, and you kind of hang on, and we could be having this conversation a year from now saying...
00:01:41
Speaker
I'll be saying, hey, so it's your dog night. No, no, it's still a rescue. No, it's not. It's yours. It would still be a foster until I signed a contract otherwise. Like, I don't, I don't. but What does that mean? No one's ever coming back. I know, but. I don't own the dog. They own the dog, right? They own the dog. Until they're, well, I mean, look, you you're a business guy. You understand how this works. It's still business to a degree.
00:02:02
Speaker
There's a contract I have with them right now as a foster that I don't take care of them. If something goes wrong or things aren't good, I give them back to the foster. I don't go and like drop them at the pound. That's a contract. No, no, no. Okay.
00:02:12
Speaker
As a business person. Yes. Keep going. Hold on. then Yeah. The second phase of that is an adoption process. The same way as like, and I hate to make this comparison because it's not the same, but the same way as you would either foster a child or adopt a child. Yeah. It's the same thing with, with animals, right? Until there's a contract in place that says I'm solely responsible, 100% financially and otherwise for this dog's wellbeing, blah, blah, fucking blah. Yeah.
00:02:36
Speaker
Yep. Until that time comes and there's a signature, I don't own the dog. He's just, he's basically a freeloader. Well. But I don't own the dog. Well, okay. So as a business person, I will tell you that contract, whatever's in that contract is worth less than the paper that it's written on. course.
00:02:53
Speaker
You're not suing them. No. For money. No. You're not going to sue them to take the dog back if they say no. But if I take the dog. Yeah. Right. And I don't have that contract. Yeah. It's theft because the dog is considered property. no, no. So I'm at the losing end of that for sure. I'm at the losing end. but you're not because like, you know, you not because nobody wants that dog.
00:03:14
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So you don't steal it you're stealing something nobody wants. So who's enforcing that theft? quote unquote The rescue. They don't want it back. Yeah, but it's still, I mean, okay, maybe they don't. And maybe at that point, they would just gift him, right? Maybe, whatever. yeah or Or find somewhere else for him to go or take him back to whatever property they have, wherever that is. Some kind of boarding situation. Like I'm not obligated to keep him if I don't want to keep him.
00:03:41
Speaker
If I say to them, if I say to them, I can't keep this dog, it's done. I can't do it anymore. it needs to be immediate. Figure it out. You have a week. They would have no choice but to figure it out because the alternative to that is me then doing something against contract, but something that would be well within my right because they've abandoned me.
00:03:58
Speaker
So there is. Right. So the contract works both ways. i Sure, but like if I ran that rescue and I'm over the limit on dogs, I'm out of space. Yeah.
00:04:09
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You have this dog. Yeah. Dogs got health problems. I just ignore you. A week goes by, whatever it is. yeah Guys, I can't keep this. I ignore it. We're looking. We're looking. And I'm not really looking.
00:04:22
Speaker
Yeah. And then I know that what's gonna happen? You just give it to a local pound. Yeah. No, I would never do that. You might not do that. Yeah, and I know. But my point is, as a rescue from wherever they are, there's absolutely zero incentive to come and get that dog from you when you say time's up.
00:04:40
Speaker
depend it Well, it depends on the rescue, realist just realistically. Sure. It really depends on whether or not the rescue is legit. You know, there are rescues like in the city, in New York City, that are super legit. The one that I've i've worked with in the past, you know they wouldn't even let me use a dog walker. They wouldn't even let me leave the dog with a dog sitter. It was like if I needed to leave town, they picked up that dog and they put it to another, brought it to another foster. Okay.
00:05:06
Speaker
temporary or permanent, whichever that looks like, depending on the situation. Like for instance, the first dog that I fostered, yeah had applied long-term foster her. ok and someone else came in and said, oh, I want to foster to adopt. So they naturally went that route because in my interview, they were like, well, would you adopt her? And I was like, well, I can't answer that right now. I haven't even met her yet.
00:05:29
Speaker
I was like, I can't right now. What I'm willing to do is I'm willing to take care of the dog, nurse the dog back to health. I'm willing to temper its behavior and help train it in order to make it adoptable. Whether or not that adoptive parent or family would be mine. I can't tell you that before I've met a dog. Like, who does that? I know. But asking that out of the gate, as you just said, which is, you know, somewhat ridiculous. You know, yeah they're hoping. Well, but they're always hoping you just don't give it back.
00:05:55
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Well, they're always hoping that you adopt. And what happens is, is the foster to adopt process yeah allows you to really get to know the dog and see whether or not the dog, one, fits into your lifestyle, two, fits into your family, right?
00:06:07
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Or three, is is not suited to any of those things, right? So you you make choices as you go. There are people who are strict fosters and their objective yeah is to save as many lives as they can. So they never adopt. They never foster fail.
00:06:25
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Which is a real thing. They never do it because they have an understanding of their own limitations. yeah And that suggests that if they were to foster fail and keep that dog, they would never be able to have another dog, which means they can't foster anymore, which means more lives get lost in the shelter system. yeah Right.
00:06:42
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So it all depends. But like the first. So anyway, so like I became the stand in short term emergency foster for that dog. Vacations, work trips, yeah weekends, yes yeah like whatever that looked like. yeah if they needed help, they'd call me. Okay. Which was fine because I still got to hang out with her and be a part of her recovery and all that stuff. And and I just she was just actually adopted by a family. oh nice. Yeah. who By the way lives in my neighborhood. Wow.
00:07:12
Speaker
And guess who i guess who I saw less than 24 hours after the adoption? Nice. I saw the dog. Okay. And she was great. She saw me and she went bananas, which was really funny. Oh, that's really cool. Yeah. So, you know, it's like, it's a process. And for that dog, it was a six month process. Right. And so the objective generally with these dogs is to get them to a point where you can make them adoptable. Right.
00:07:38
Speaker
Like you wouldn't take a dog like this one right now. You wouldn't take a dog like this and the one that we've been talking about um and just say, okay, willy nilly, anybody can have you. Here, and I put you up for general adoption.
00:07:52
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Because the opportunity for failure is so much higher. So it just takes longer. contract has no time limit on it, right? There's no terms.
00:08:03
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No, but like but you know the obligation with an the unspoken obligation within the community, like I said, legitimately, like for legitimate rescues, is that when someone volunteers to do it, there could be a time period...
00:08:19
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Yeah.
00:08:29
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put your dog put that dog into um a dog sitter situation or a boarding situation while they go on vacation then that's a hard stop and so they have time to go figure out another another foster um' situation for that dog. As you can tell, I'm a little skeptical. I feel that you've just been given this, this, this dog, which you love. And then i do they're like, Oh, see ya.
00:08:53
Speaker
And they're never coming back. Right. I don't feel that way. I don't know how responsive they are to you. I mean, you know, like I did, you know, and the other thing that I need to profess is oftentimes these people do this as a passion project.
00:09:08
Speaker
Sure. And not as a not as a living. Like they don't make any money off of a 5013C or whatever is. No, no, I get it. God bless them and you and people like you in the world to to do that because I'm not doing it. Yeah. I got too much shit going on. I'm not doing it. i'm not adding another layer of complication to my life. And, and, but again, but as a business person, I would just tell you, I don't think they're treating you fairly.
00:09:31
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Yeah. As a friend, I'm like, this is horseshit. Yeah. Like the ones that treat people fairly, I mean, like any other business, even if it's nonprofit, if they treat their people, you foster parents with respect. Right. Yeah.
00:09:45
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and being responsive at the money and the healthcare everything, their reputation builds. And then more people will come and go, oh, I would love, I would love to recommend you to be a foster parent for this shelter. Right. Because they're really awesome and they're responsive and take care it. And they understand like, if you, if you got to go, they're there within an hour get the dog. Right. Like, boom. Awesome. Well, I mean, it's planned better than that. Like, it's not an hour, it's planned better than that. But yeah. But whatever, know, it's customer service. And then there's the one that you're doing with now, it just seems like they've left you in the lurch. I've heard from them. It's just a little bit more sporadic. Yeah.
00:10:18
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But I've heard from them. I heard from them recently. So, you know, I mean, I'm not. All right. Look, if I was worried, I would tell you I was worried. I'm not worried. You know, I mean, there's going to come ah point where i am going to leave town. I mean, I've been yeah and leaving town separately. Like we've been traveling a lot. I know that. and And to be honest. You have been going out of your way to take care of this dog. I know you have your own dog. I do. But like you have not been able to be as flexible yeah with your children's sports lives on the weekends, let's say, yeah because of the dogs. Well, yeah. But you know what? I have a dog anyway, right? So think whatever, whatever. if it was
00:10:57
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If it was really, really important, yeah like crazy important for everybody to go, yeah i would i would ask my dog sitter to stay. But it's it's another expense that where it's like if it's not necessary. Like it's not a vacation.
00:11:11
Speaker
Yeah. Right? A vacation is a totally different ball of wax. Yeah, yeah, I understood. I understood. Sports weekends, it's like, you know. I did see something that I thought ah thought about you. There is pet phone.
00:11:26
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that just came out. or i don't know it had been launched officially or it was us it was a concept. There's something called MWC 2026. It looks like a conference of like pet technology. wow It's called the Pet Phone. $90 smart caller attachment uses GPS signals to track your pet and has a paw call me feature that triggers a call to your phone if your pet jumps over a foot three times in six seconds.
00:11:56
Speaker
And the built-in speaker lets pet owners talk back because separation anxiety goes both ways. That's funny. That's true, though. I could see that. So if it jumps above a foot three times in six seconds, it's like frantic and wants something.
00:12:11
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Is that what their deal is? Yeah. Well, what that does is it's, you know, when they jump like that and they're by themselves and they suffer from separation anxiety, it's like it's a like a barrier wreck to reactivity situation. And they literally bounce off the walls.
00:12:24
Speaker
Oh, got it. You know, like if you were to, you know, put them into a room with the door closed. yeah you know i I mean, I got a ring camera, an indoor ring camera, so I can keep an eye when we used to keep them separated. But now that they're together and it's fine.
00:12:42
Speaker
We leave them together all the time, except at night. ah do they get to roam the house or they have to or the door closed? No, they roam the house and they don't go anywhere. Seriously, they literally don't go anywhere. They have a front window. It's like a movie theater for them. They don't go anywhere. Nice.
00:12:57
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yeah I don't have to worry about it. And they're not and not destructive. Okay. Okay. Like at all. But. At all? Mm-mm. That's pretty good. Yeah. It's not too bad. Good training. Yeah. Good for you. Yeah. It's not too bad. um And additionally, when i had the f I had the gate up, keeping them separate.
00:13:14
Speaker
Yeah. um The little one would climb the gate. So we would find him on the couch when we got home anyway. said Nice. Smart. So it's, you know, it got to the point either close the door, create him or just leave it be. And yeah after a few times of him scaling the the fence, so to speak, getting, you know, de-jailing himself um and realizing that everything was fine, it was just not, ah it wasn't worth pursuing anymore. Yeah.
00:13:41
Speaker
Okay. so Okay. All right. um We should talk about how we feel as
Youth Sports: Challenges and Dynamics
00:13:50
Speaker
parents now that youth hockey is over.
00:13:52
Speaker
I'm sad. Yeah, I'm kind sad too. but And i have all these podcasts that are building up now on my phone with no time to play them because I'm not driving four hours each way for games. I mean, you could still drive four hours. Just go grocery shopping at Stu Leonard's up in Connecticut. Yeah.
00:14:10
Speaker
Thank you. Stop walking around the corner. ah But yeah, sad. But I'm so i mean i' was super excited. like Yeah. you know because obviously they're both off on potentially a junior career yeah kind of fun and exciting right it's a new new chapter ye for them it's true i mean you know i think that there's a lot of growth that happens yeah at this point for them i mean you know i think that there's been a lot of growth all along which is part of what i've really respected about this particular journey and of itself um It's been honestly, it's been so much fun as a parent. Yeah. um It's been very social, which has been great, you know, because everything's hectic. And so when all your weekends are sucked up.
00:14:56
Speaker
Yeah. you know, with you with sports, it's like you start to you you start to really lose your social life basically. Right. Cause you're away all the time or you're yeah at games all the time. And, you know, your friends are going and let's just say hypothetically, like taking their kids to the museum on a Saturday and you're like, I, so I can't go, but yep thanks for the invite. And then eventually, you know, they stop inviting you. Yeah.
00:15:19
Speaker
Oh, um which has happened. that well know But then when they're really young, 10 year 11 year old, Yeah, but it's it happened. And then, you know, like the kids, friends stop inviting them because they always have to say no. So they just don't bother anymore. Right. yeah And so, you know, the the social aspect of travel hockey, although sometimes irritating and sometimes not um not enjoyable for the most part, was really, really fun.
00:15:47
Speaker
Like I met a lot of really, really cool people, I think, through the journey. And I wouldn't call all of them my closest friends. But yeah really, like if I saw them, I would be so happy to see them. Yeah. um You know, and and i would I would offer that ah it's been such a joyful experience overall.
00:16:08
Speaker
Like it's just brought joy yeah to my existence as a parent. You know, it's given me it's given me so much time with my son yup that I otherwise wouldn't have had. Yeah.
00:16:22
Speaker
You know, the drives, the hotel stays, you know, all of that. I wouldn't trade it. And i wouldn't I wouldn't go back and change it, even though all the NIL and the Canadians and whatever have you know screwed everything up for them a little bit. I still, at this point, would not go back and wish it to be different or change it. um Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:42
Speaker
ah I mean, I would change a couple things that we did or didn't do, like trajectory-wise. Yeah, yeah. You know, maybe make a couple of decisions differently. Yeah, I mean, that's normal life, right? Yeah, totally. go through something the first time and then, oh, no, in hindsight, then.
00:16:59
Speaker
Totally. Whatever, in hindsight. It's not a regret. In the moment. Right. It's not regret. It's just kind of like one of those things where it's like, huh, we probably could have done that differently and then it would have just been a little different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You make the best choice you can when you have whatever information you have your fingertips, right? That's right. everything.
00:17:16
Speaker
I mean, I kind of feel sorry for the and the younger parents who have to go that whole 1517s national development program process starting next year. I think it's going to be complicated. um i think that it's going to be fraught with with terrible behavior, actually. Anytime there's a selection process involved with kids and parents, you you got to expect the worst. Yeah, I just think i think that that they're taking something that's already been a little bit volatile and they're just kind of like turning it up, out like going turning it to 11, like just like turn it to 11. Oh, like I mean, what could go wrong with 32 teams around the country that are supposed to be feeding into the national team development program right and their tryouts? oh
00:18:00
Speaker
Right. Yeah. You say that, you're like, oh, yeah, shit, that's going to be painful. Yeah. I think it's to be terrible. i could just see the hate and the fights in the parking lot and all other shit that's going on. Well, and the vitriol. My kid is better than your kid. Your kid has been the team. But i can only I can only imagine what the vitriol is going to look like online, too. Oh.
00:18:21
Speaker
Right? Because when you're hiding behind your keyboard, people don't give a second thought to saying anything that they think. but You would never say it to me in person. It is weird, right? You probably wouldn't. But like if you're typing it, nobody seems to care. but like but okay So my so ah my son's team, they went to prep school playoffs. They lost in the semifinals to Avon. And...
00:18:42
Speaker
and ah I get on the Avon pace. Congratulations. Cause they ended up winning elite eight championships. So congratulations name congratulations to them. Well earned, played well, stacked team. And then like this one, this is one comment from, a yeah again, from an unknown account. And this is like, Oh, you guys think you're so hot shit. And you have all these Oh sevens on the team who should be in juniors or something. They're the same age as Gavin McKenna.
00:19:12
Speaker
You know, you must be so happy with yourself. And I was like, I mean, I'm from the losing team and I'm looking at that guy. Dude. Soar winner. What? No, no, it was not a sore winner.
00:19:22
Speaker
It was like somebody criticizing Avon for having kids, older kids who shouldn't even be there. They all do because it's not about that. But who can't? The rule allows it. And I certainly hope it wasn't from our team. I was like, I'm like, why do people have sour grapes against a team that, sure, it's a super team like Shattuck, right? And if you manage to recruit those people, good for you.
00:19:46
Speaker
How many o seven s were on your team?
00:19:51
Speaker
um we had eight seniors and i think six of them are oh sevens and two are oh eights they didn't reclass okay right that's a little small i think most teams generally have like like no you're because your roster is like 25 okay but it's almost half it's almost 50 yeah But that that tracks because like you know most prep schools that are serious about hockey really recruit you at 16.
00:20:22
Speaker
Right. As a junior. Right. And then they make you re-class. Junior. No, but whatever you whatever age you are, yeah doesn't matter, right? It's like junior, senior. Yeah. Most people. Most people don't come in as definitely not as freshmen. But your son wouldn't have been there unless they made him because he's there because they made him reclass. Otherwise, he would have graduated already is my point.
00:20:41
Speaker
Like he's in 07 graduating this year. yeah He would have graduated last year had the school not made him reclass or had he not volunteered to reclass. And some 07s reclass twice. no but Right. I'm just saying it that's my point is like it doesn't have like a prep school. That's yeah not even an argument.
00:21:00
Speaker
No, no, no, I know. But for the people who are bitching, so that's that let's say it's probably this person is probably from Minnesota Chicago, is my guess, right? That's probably valid. Because because they're like, oh, you should play high school, you graduate when you're grade 12, and then you go play juniors. and if youre but but But there's so many things wrong with that argument, because like, A...
00:21:17
Speaker
This person, i don't know they're a hockey person, but fuck, Gavin McKenna is a freak of nature. Totally. Let's just be honest here, right? like Yeah. connibiard Conor Conor McDavid, all these first round top 10, 20. Right. Yeah. All these guys are like, you can't compare regular prep school, high school kids with him or people like him. was Those are top 10 NHL draft picks, right? They're freak of nature, yeah right? The general path for everyone is you play your high school, whatever age you are, it doesn't matter, grade 9, 10, 11, whatever age you are, you're 9, 10, 11, 12, okay? And you graduate and you go to juniors and you go to college. And and you can't have sour grapes because my thing is like,
00:21:58
Speaker
you you you can't keep playing high school and then skip juniors. Let's say if you want that path, like right you are who you are. Every junior team can only have three age outs that are turning 21, right? yeah So everyone's 20, 19, 20.
00:22:14
Speaker
Anyways, so then it filters down from the college down to juniors into prep. Nobody would be, like ah in our current year, nobody would be an 07 senior If there was a path to go direct to college right or juniors earlier. Correct. Right. Right. So anyways, and i I was just laughing like this guy got sour grapes. Like, who are these people?
00:22:38
Speaker
Like, just say congratulations. Yeah. No one's happy losing. I'm not happy losing, but we still had a hell of a season. And I was like, they are a better team. I feel like i feel like the person who writes that comment doesn't understand the process, actually. Totally.
00:22:51
Speaker
Totally. It was just i just weird, but i was like, but like you said, anyways, like you said, online people could hide behind whatever it is. And, and, oh, that's definitely going to come for the national development program. I can't just wait to hear all the hate on the Instagrams with me, everything about how stupid,
00:23:06
Speaker
this program is and how much more pain it's caused families money politics for sure people buying their way in bribing their way totally to get to national development program because it's supposed to be a pipeline but then but the thing about that so like you have all this grief getting into this 32 team development league which has no nationals at the year end right unlike tier one triple a right okay Okay, so give them something there. And then let's say you go through all that pain and suffering and pay your way or bribe your way or whatever it is you think you did to get yourself, your kid into this 15s program. And then let's say get cut at 17. You're going to have more grief. And then, and then, as you know, and I both know, everyone wants to be in that program at 15, 32 teams, mind you, 32 teams 15-year-olds nationwide, right?
00:23:58
Speaker
Suddenly, you're trying to pick, I don't know, 18 to go to NTDP? Yep. And every team has a roster of like 25. Yep. So from 32 teams of 25, you want to push everybody to into one NTDP. And and then, does that mean state festival's over? Right.
00:24:21
Speaker
i don't know. but I don't know. me just I just want to address something about NTDP. Yeah. Yeah. The NTDP selection process yeah is going to be zero different than it was last year, the year before, the year before that.
00:24:37
Speaker
It's still going to be of the 40 kids that those guys deem the best. Yeah. Out of all of them. And then they're going to pick the 18 who rise to the top like cream. Right. Yep.
00:24:49
Speaker
Yep. And then that's going to be that the amount of kids in the on those 32 rosters for those 32 teams is not even going to matter because by the time 15 rolls around, they already have an idea of what they're looking at and who they're going to follow.
00:25:03
Speaker
And the only thing that would change that trajectory is if people came in and and were amazing and surprising. Right. i Listen, i I agree with you, except that the expectation from these parents, oh yeah no theres you no hugging heads that if your kid gets into the n d l yeah on one of the thirty two teams yeah That you should be a shoo-in for NTDP. Right, which is not. Which is not going happen. So there's going to be a lot of families. Even the top 10 teams in all the AAA that we've played. Yeah.
00:25:39
Speaker
You know, like the the NTDP kids, for the most part, came from only those 10 teams or or so or smaller, right? So... Well, then, so then, i know, but so then, 32 teams, 25 kids, that's 800 players, Right, and then you have to factor in Minnesota hockey.
00:25:57
Speaker
No, I know. so So, we can say that the selection process doesn't change, but the point is, you're expecting, if you get into the NDL, to be a pipeline into NTDP. Sure.
00:26:08
Speaker
So, now the odds are, what if if you're not in one of those 32 teams, on one of those 32 teams, Yeah. Are your chances zero now to end end up in NTDP, given that you and I talked about before, like, hey, they're always late bloomers. There are. And and i don't think that it's an I don't think it's a dead end. I think yeah that you know if there's a kid who's making magic happen yeah outside of that entit deep and that NDP nd e program. n yeah NDL. Right now I'm getting all my letters all confused. feel like I'm dyslexic. um
00:26:42
Speaker
If there's a kid making magic outside of the and NDL, he'll get recognized. they'll They'll find him. Right. You hope they might not. The scouts are so lazy these days. Yeah, I think they might just go to NDL and say, listen, there's a kid, whatever, playing whatever CJR independent and is scoring like five goals a game. You should look at him.
00:27:04
Speaker
And they'll be like, well, but you know, we only need 18. And you know that that kid's going to have an advisor slash agent who's going to want to make sure that they get noticed. Right. So. it depends on It depends on your personal situation, I think, more than anything else and how you manage coming from, let's say, Connecticut Junior Rangers, right, in that enclave and making yourself well-known amongst the higher-ups who make those choices. yeah It's not impossible because popcorn, right? Kids are like popcorn. They pop at different times. like That's a real thing.
00:27:38
Speaker
It's not impossible, but i was just thinking other day about you – you Ultimately, it's not like you and your kid and my kid, we get lucky because we have the right coach at the right time. And we only get that coach because at youth hockey because his daughter's on the team.
00:27:54
Speaker
Sure. Yeah. Every other team in that program is dog shit. Dog shit. And they do not care. Nope. About the kids. They don't care to develop them. They're picking up coaches... really have no training and it's basically glorified babysitting yeah at $10,000 a season. Okay. crazy. It's like crazy, right? Okay. so So, so your and my perspective, I think is a little bit warped in a positive sense because we had a really good experience. Yeah.
00:28:24
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Right. It's true. That true. think that for most people in the New York area, that is not the case. Right. ah yeah so then yeah So then I think you what you happens is if you're serious about the sport from young, like i I am the first person to tell people I would not have survived AAA hockey from six years old. There's no freaking way. yeah But people do it. They do. And and when we see coaches like our code our youth coach says, it doesn't matter. You pop in, you pop. They'll find you.
00:28:53
Speaker
I think that's true to a certain extent except that if you make the assumption I hear the bark in the background. know. Sorry. Do you to No, God, no. He barks. The pin drops, he barks. I would argue that if you are hockey player yourself, as a father or a mother, and you want your kid to play hockey and be on that path, you don't have a choice.
00:29:22
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But to go look for those AAA programs at six or seven, because you have to make the assumption that in those programs, the coaching going to be better. Because if you came to Chelsea Piers, sorry, guys, your coaches suck shit except for the one that we had. Yeah. Do not care about the kids. I don't think you should apologize for calling it out. Okay. So so if you if you go there with a serious player. Yeah.
00:29:44
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And. Out of 25 kids, three kids want to be serious and 22 are there for babysitting and the coaches don't care. Like you get this. You're just like, this is bullshit. So then you get forced into that AAA system, which you don't want to be participating in because it's political and kids, parents are crazy. The travels in time. Are we really traveling across the country with six year olds to play hockey? Like really? Right. And, and then, and then, so and anyway you go up the thing and NDL makes it worse. so my My point was it like as well-intentioned as you want to be as a parent, right, and and not go through some that stupid shit. And the coach is telling us you will be found. I'm like, I get that. But the same time, i disagree in this day and age wholeheartedly because the exposure thing between scouts getting lazy,
00:30:34
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ah people playing all year round and being hyper-competitive, right, that if you don't get into the mix early on, you fall behind very quickly, not as a player, but in the exposure thing. And let let's be honest, right? Unless you're the top 0.1% player right and you know you've got the skills to go away, the next 4.9% of the players who can all play...
00:31:02
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d1 d3 hockey how do you stand out it's really difficult yeah and i don't care how much you pay your advice how what kind of superstar advisor you have like the power with the coaches the teams the college is like you and i know this you see players all the time they get committed like that player i forget my kid i've seen 10 other players like that yeah that is right time right place like like like a lot of things in life okay i understand that but so but based on that then like For your kid and my kid, for example, if if the youth program we had really cared about our kids and told us what to do, you and I would have known about Pee Wee Quebec.
00:31:37
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Yes. Two years in advance. Yep. Right? And send our kids there And even though I tell new families that have young kids, that Pee Wee Quebec doesn't change your trajectory.
00:31:48
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It does. it It's good experience. It's a good thing. It's a good experience and it can, it doesn't necessarily happen for everybody, but it can change your trajectory being in that environment. For sure. For sure.
00:31:59
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hundred percent, especially if you're a good player. but we just and where you you And you come from a smaller market. I mean, if you consider like the the double A designation of where we came from, yeah if we went and and one of our kids or both of our kids or none of our kids or whatever made a team that went to the queue, those kids would have been noticed.
00:32:20
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No, but i think that, that i guess I guess my point is that the super teams already exist from all over the world right at 12 years old, right? Right. well Everybody else, you make a team on Long Island or whatever it is you go, and you go and you have fun.
00:32:33
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But at 12, whenever you look like at 12, unless you're a freak like Conor Bedard, at 12... at twelve We haven't, I mean, I honestly haven't seen a kid who at 12 is a superstar, superstar, not quite and NHL superstar, but like a really good above average player who developed early is not, that gap doesn't exist when they're 18 anymore.
00:33:00
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Everyone else is caught up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. 100%. So one of the things like I tell the parents, like, okay, don't, I guess the stress is, my kid has to make a team. i'm like, okay, I understand that. And it's good to go. If your kid doesn't make that a Pee Wee Quebec team, it doesn't mean they don't make it. Right. And often's my point to them and oftentimes those teams are, they're not only pre-picked, but they're pre-picked really far in advance. sure And all of those like tryouts for the you know Quebec teams or whatever are really a money grab.
00:33:29
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Well, and those things aren't going far. But again, I tell people, look, it doesn't matter. Go have fun. You and I talk about youth hockey experience, hanging with your kids. It's a fun trip. It's expensive. It's 10 grand, whatever it is, per kid. And it's a week or week and a of school. But you can go and really enjoy yourself and have that fun. Yeah. And you know what? I don't know single person who went on either of those. There's two, right? There's the Q and then there's the, what's the other one? The Brick. The Brick. But they're really young.
00:33:59
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Right, right, right. But I don't know of anybody who went on either of those who said they had a terrible time. Right. No, exactly. Sorry. No, totally. So you go and you have fun and and there's a whole bit. but But I guess the original point I was trying to make, bless you, that that the exposure game which is going to be made even worse by ndl which makes parents do stupid shit like buy ice rinks that's right every i hear that i'm just laughing like yeah this dad is rich bought an ice rink and a team for the kids like what are you kidding me like really that okay
00:34:35
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Yeah. I mean, people, you know what? it's going to cause people to move and change their markets. I would, i I'm curious. I would be curious to see how many people pick up and move to Minnesota for their kids' hockey so that they could play high school instead of having to deal with that whole system. bet you lot. You know, that whole weird system. Or Illinois. Illinois, too, I think, also has a really good high school hockey situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But not only high school hockey. Minnesota only has high school hockey. Yeah.
00:34:59
Speaker
Right. So if you go to a school where the team is fun and good and you get on that team, yeah you know, you don't have to deal with this other crap. No, this whole thing is like an American thing. Because again, like in Canada and definitely Europe, it's community based teams. Right.
00:35:17
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You live in the area. Here's a team, again, they run programs where all the kids show up when they're young. You're AAA, you're AA, you're single A, you're B. right And they want to develop you, and there's always kids moving up and down.
00:35:32
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yeah And people accept it, right? ye And so the NDL could be like that if they tackled it from mites. But trying to tackle at 15 and 17 only,
00:35:46
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yeah The 17 things I don't even understand because the 15s you're picking for NTDP. And then after that, if you don't make that team, Who cares about NDL? Right. Although, I guess, you know what, if it also becomes a feeder, though, for things like USHL and D1 commitments, I think that people will still want to be there.
00:36:06
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and And I i feel... But are they picking from the 15s? Well, I feel like they are. I feel like they're picking from the 15s and the 17s. I think that if you have that yeah ability to be in that program and stay in that program, that you are you are get first dibs at pretty much anything and everything you want.
00:36:22
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I think the rest everybody else falls away. Right. In our current system,
00:36:30
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the USHL picks up everybody from the draft when they're 15 and 16. Nobody, no i mean, I know, yes, it's um it's never zero, but the odds of you walking on a USHL team at 18. Well, at 17 or 18, you wouldn't walk on, but you could very easily get camp invites because they notice you.
00:36:52
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So there could be something else that's happening outside of being tendered. Yeah. But, but for the most part, you know, USHL is already filled entirely filled with drafts and tenders by 16. Yeah.
00:37:09
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Okay. So again, it's like, yeah, but there are also, there are also kids by the way, who leave like, you know, this, there are kids who are like, yeah, I don't want to play here. i want to go to the I want to go to the OHL. Right. So they pick up and they go.
00:37:22
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So there's always like, there's a turn there is a turnover. i'm just My point is is that those turnover positions, which will happen, those openings, which invariably always happen, um will get filled by people in that small cross section.
00:37:39
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Yeah, I guess the key question Nobody else is gonna get any looks. like I guess the key question is, if you like look if you look at your kid and you played club and he had a chance to move somewhere for NDL,
00:37:50
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would that be a a slam dunk choice or would there still be some thought that an 18U club at a high level, like the Avs, is worth more in the development of your kid living at home, cetera, et cetera, going to a school, whatever it is, rather than camping out in some, you know,
00:38:19
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small town location. It's basically sending them to juniors early. Right. At a junior team sanctioned by USA Hockey, which you hope creates a standardization of facilities and care.
00:38:32
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Correct. Right? For that kid. Sure. Right? And if your 17s NTDP program is picked from 15s, then really your 17s NDL program is no different from your kid playing 18U abs or my kid going to prep school. Yeah.
00:38:52
Speaker
It's true. I just think it brings ah another high-level option into focus. And and yeah you know part of my ah argument with that is you know that the competition in that league is going to be infinitely better than the eighteens Yes, it's the consistency for sure. Yeah, it's going to be much better. So the experience might be better. The hockey is definitely going to be better. And maybe maybe if you really look at it pragmatically, the possibility of the coaching being better is yeah definitely there.
00:39:22
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yeah You know, not to like be offensive to anybody. I'm not criticizing anybody. I'm just saying like, you know, because you know that if they're vetting those kids as the best, you know, they're vetting the coaches at the same rate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah And so, yeah, you'ot for your development, 100%.
00:39:37
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A hundred percent. Yes. Go, go to whatever small podunk market it is. like We'll go, we'll look back in five years and figure out whether or not that was a good experiment for them or not. Yeah. i mean you know, look, not everybody has the same path, but everybody wants the same things. Yeah.
00:39:55
Speaker
Yeah. Right. So, you know, however you get there, I guess that's really a personal preference. Some people would rather have their kids stay home at 18, right? And like, you know, have the experience, which, you know, I am very grateful for it.
00:40:12
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I didn't bank on it though. I didn't have an expectation of it because, you know, like we've said before, like my kid got injured last year, so he lost, you know, the majority of the season. So he really didn't have any options, but to do another year of 18s where he was.
00:40:28
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Yeah, I really wonder what what happens to state festival and all the different state regional selection process. They still happen because they're still have but that was for nationals. Yeah, no, but you're still playing nationals, right? so i'm ah Yeah, that's true. I don't know. That's right. That's right. Districts is not the same as regional. National camp.
00:40:45
Speaker
Yeah, this probably goes by the wayside. Yeah. Well, that would suck. Yeah, it probably doesn't happen anymore. that would be a bummer. Hey, it's it's Sam. Okay. Can you give me a second? Time out. Thank you.
00:40:56
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We're back. Okay. I remembered. Yeah. It took me 40 minutes to remember what talked to you about today. AI. We're back on the AI thing. Mm-hmm. Because...
00:41:11
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There was this great article um about a woman. She is the um head of Meta's AI alignment division. Whatever whatever that is. Okay. so What that means. Okay. But the reason why i came up is because she was testing this tool called OpenClaw. So the people who listen to us,
00:41:36
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if they follow AI, know this thing about OpenClaw, Meta bought it, basically this guy, yeah um software agent, people are using it. So she was testing it. Okay. On a fake email box. Okay.
00:41:48
Speaker
Sure. Brudent. Sounds about right. it's It's an agent. So it's just, you're giving instructions. Tell me, go through my email box. Tell me what you think should be archived. What should be deleted? What should be, you know, highlighted. Okay. it She tested, she tested. Everything's great.
00:42:03
Speaker
Awesome. So then she rolls out onto her real email box. okay
AI in the Workplace: A Meta Employee's Story
00:42:10
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And it started to delete shit. And it started to clear her. and in And she documents this on, I applaud her for documenting this on social media like and admitting to her mistakes. but So she says that She literally had to, it was mission impossible. She had to run across the room. but She couldn't stop it from her phone. Run across the room to basically shut down her computer to stop it from deleting everything.
00:42:37
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Jesus. but But here's the thing.
00:42:41
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The AI knew it did not follow her instructions. Mm-hmm. That it broke the rules. Mm-hmm. The bot, when she asked why, was completely like, I don't fucking give a shit. It basically said, you have a right to be upset that I didn't follow your instructions. And it basically I don't care.
00:43:03
Speaker
Wow. Okay. This is somebody who is like. she's in She's deep into the AI, right? Obviously, she's testing this because she wants to roll it out, use it, and she should have technical expertise.
00:43:18
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And even then, it basically gave her the middle finger and did went off the reservation and did whatever it wanted to do. It's like a Terminator vibes. Totally.
00:43:29
Speaker
Yeah. It's Terminator vibes for sure. And then I saw this thing on on um that IBM is hiring a record number of entry-level people.
00:43:43
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this goes back to our earlier conversation about how do you develop managers if you don't have any entry-level jobs. IBM is doing the opposite. IBM is hiring a record level of entry-level people, students,
00:43:57
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Because along the lines of what I said before, it's like, hey, we, you know, you need people to learn AI and use as a tool. And that's great. yeah But we need people. Yeah. And people are going to be disappointed in a couple of years when AI really has not fully automated your life and taken over and done all the great things that you asked it to do.
00:44:14
Speaker
Right. But what they'll do first is they'll make the mistake of getting rid of all the people. Yep. Which is basically what's right Yeah, which they're going to do first. And, you know, I mean, AI from the from the jump has had, you know, Terminator vibes. I mean, that's pretty much exactly what Terminator is about. The machines take over, right? that's But that's the funny part because we're not even at a point where the AI is actually thinking yet.
00:44:36
Speaker
Right. It's not that advanced. It's still processing... code and instructions that we gave it. right and And remember when i told you this, one of the startups I'm advising, which used one AI to start coding, and then we realized it's skipping steps and being lazy. he like what the fuck And then we had a second AI now be its supervisor, look over its shoulder to make sure it does the thing. Right. And then when it still skips steps, it kicks it up to a human.
00:45:06
Speaker
Right. So I'm like, so the efficiency people think they're getting from ai bots and agents is not there because however they're being coded, I guess the human human bias is being coded into the code.
00:45:20
Speaker
Sure. Well, because they're really they're really replications yeah of of the human brain. Right. and it's right and in In computer form. I mean, yeah again...
00:45:31
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ah i i I have no other choice but to use Terminator as that's my reference point. Sure. But, you know, I mean, the movie the movie is pretty succinct, right? Yeah, like yeah, yeah. They create this technology. Yeah. They embed this technology in foot soldiers yeah in order to send out foot soldiers for war.
00:45:50
Speaker
Yeah. And Armageddon. Yeah, yeah. And hegemony, right? I mean, all of those things, right? Yeah. And so I don't think this is any different. I just think this is the manifestation of what used to be sci-fi fantasy. Yeah. Right.
00:46:01
Speaker
Well, I'm still waiting for flying cars. I'm waiting for my Jetsons lifestyle. But what you have now is you've got self-driving cars, right? So what you didn't have before. And so the manifestation of flying cars, Jetson style, could effectual it could effectively come from... Even the self-driving cars. Oh, they make mistakes all the time. This is my argument for people. The self-driving cars today are also not thinking. No. They've just been fed so many scenarios.
00:46:27
Speaker
Yeah. and they can And they can, quote unquote, think so, process so fast, quickly, in... milliseconds what the 80% probability correct decision would be. right Let's do that. 20% of the time we're going to be wrong. wrong yeah Hit the brakes.
00:46:47
Speaker
And like then reassess. right right and my i guess And ultimately my argument to the the engineers that I'm working with who are obviously all in on AI, I look at them and guys, I think the problem you have with AI is that even when it's thinking,
00:47:04
Speaker
An AI that is not a human being doesn't have doesn't have e q Yeah. That's what I told them. Any program that lacks EQ, and I don't know how you program EQ, doesn't understand the nuance of humans. So, for example, if I'm standing ah on the corner of the street and I'm reading my phone and the light turns green.
00:47:26
Speaker
The car really doesn't know whether I have intention to cross the street. It's just been fed a million scenarios, a different scenarios. of ah If his left foot is forward and he's looking down and then he looks up, he's going to cross, you better slow down.
00:47:42
Speaker
But humans are random, right? We can do all sorts of weird shit. Change our minds all the time. we f All the time. I take one step, I turn around. like And until a bot can have some sense of EQ and understand nuance,
00:47:57
Speaker
I find it very difficult ah for it to ever become truly a thinking being. Right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I hear you. I'm just, I'm just, so it's not there, but I'm not, my point is, is that I think that that's ultimately what they strive for. Yeah, yeah. And so it's going to keep, you know, evolving over and over and over and over again, each iteration better than the last, just like the iPod, for instance, although I do miss the click wheel, I have to say.
00:48:26
Speaker
I like things that actually function. That's been going to come back in cars. I've read so many articles now where the whole touchscreen thing is a complete farce. Yeah, i hate it. hate touchscreen. And then like on the steering wheel, like this this the the plastic sensors where you have to like swipe up and down. People are like, fuck that.
Preferences in Car Controls
00:48:40
Speaker
Give me the switch do and the dial. I want tactile. I want things that I can push. And I want bells and whistles. I want things that I can push. I want to hear things that click. i want I want the mechanics. I want the basic mechanics. Yeah. Which, you know, I mean, not to dive into it too much, is watch which is what I appreciate like when I've gone and shot like Rifle Knight at a range, right? Is the basic mechanics of it yeah are are so refreshing because it's literally mechanical. It is tactile. yeah It is not something that's automated. yeah And so, you know, I feel the same way about my car. Like, yeah I don't want everything to be automated. I know. I don't want everything to be like a touch thing.
00:49:16
Speaker
yeah no no, no. I can't tell you how many times I have to reset my touchscreen. Yeah, I know. Oh, yeah. All the time. Right? It's got it's got a huge failure rate. I mean, i mean compared to you know other things, probably not as big as i I'm purporting it to be, but like no no honestly, i have to reset it. None of them work as well as they're supposed to work, first of all. Right? That's sure. I like the buttons. like Part of the reason that I haven't upgraded my car, you know I mean, it's it's not an old car by any means. It's got a lot of miles from sports, travel sports, but...
00:49:47
Speaker
You know, part of the reason that I don't want to upgrade it is because it happens to have buttons in it. Yeah. Like, I like it. Yeah. I don't want to not have pushing buttons. I hate that shit. So I'm glad I remember that because that's important. I've seen more and more articles about, and I kind of knew this garbage in, garbage out thing And I was just like, listen, you can do basic tasks, AI, but yeah you know, the reality is like, even i laugh. i think I think, I think it was like anthropic or open AI, even they're still using salesforce.com. I'm laughing. Like you guys, tell ai everything but you're using, you're using like a basic CRM software from like 20 years ago. That's kind of interesting. To run your business. Why?
00:50:25
Speaker
That's kind of interesting. Really? Yeah. is so I mean, listen, and again, like I told you, like if you own a database of information and like a company and yeah AI needs access to it, I think that's the glitch. Like whoever owns that information that needs to feed the model to do the tasks, that's the moat.
00:50:44
Speaker
Right. just So a and an AI bought without the, they call it source of truth. Right. It's useless. Right. Because it can find, you go find this information for me and it takes all the shit or it hallucinates and gives it to you. Like, dude, it's not. Gets everything off the Wikipedia. there was Before we go on to your volleyball thing, there was there was a case I just read of a company that the guy, the analyst discovered that for the last six months, we have been making national territorial sales decisions based on AI, fake AI data. Yeah.
00:51:17
Speaker
Like, holy fuck. And they're like, we we hired, we fired, we divvied up the country, blah, blah, blah. All this shit yeah based on the AI. And then when one young analyst looked at it, said oh, this is all wrong.
00:51:30
Speaker
Crazy. Because the data was bad. The data's bad, yeah. anyway And traceable. You can check it. So now it's like – And so nobody's checking it. Everybody's AI. So now you're creating more work, right? Because now you're double-checking the AI work. So just it yourself.
00:51:45
Speaker
Right. Right. I mean, i could see I see it as a tool. It works well as a tool yeah for a lot of things. Yeah, yeah. you know But it's not it's not foolproof, obviously. And there are times that I've put in prompts and I get answers and I'm like, that doesn't sound right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. No, wait a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what do? Oftentimes, like, I make um and make dog food.
00:52:08
Speaker
And oftentimes, I'll go to chat GPT for proportions, like ingredient proportions, because i don't do, like, a two-pound workout. um a two pound batch. Like I'll go and I'll do a 10 pound batch. Right. And so, yeah, yeah if I had a basic recipe, I could do the basics, whatever, but I add other things. So I look for, you know, um percentage of ingredient, I guess, yes you know, cause you don't want to overdo anything. And I prompted it yesterday. i had 10 pounds of meat and I prompted it for rice instead of quinoa. Normally I would put quinoa. Okay. But I was like, i want to do this batch with rice. Yeah.
00:52:42
Speaker
And I think it messed it up and I think it gave me too much rice. Right. Right. and And my instinct was like, this is too much. Yeah. you you know It was my instinct. I was like, this is not this is not it. And I even had it split it into two separate because I had it in two separate vessels to cook. OK. I was like, you know, had it separated out, parse out the ingredient measurements and all the whole thing. And looking at it now, I look at it and I'm like, there's too much rice in this. right Yeah.
00:53:09
Speaker
It screwed you. Screwed your dogs. Yeah. So I got to go and purchase more meat, make more meat. Hi, buddy. Make more meat and add it. There you I've got
Sports Culture: Volleyball and Soccer
00:53:20
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the meatball. All right.
00:53:21
Speaker
What's up, dude? Seven minutes. Volleyball. bitch about volleyball. Yeah. Here we go. Go. Super fun sport. The culture is amazing. Yeah. The girls are, for the most part, all supportive of one another. Great. They roll through these big convention centers and they clip people.
00:53:38
Speaker
So what these girls do is they go home and they do they take clothespins, the spring-loaded clothespins, and they decorate them. And then they walk around these convention centers and they put the clips on everybody and you've been, quote, clipped.
00:53:50
Speaker
That's cool. Really fun. And like some girls have like huge collections. Other girls are walking around with it like yeah clipped in their hair because they don't even know it's there. Like and the idea is to be secretive about it and not have anybody know where it comes from. Oh, nice. Really fun.
00:54:02
Speaker
This particular one was called the Irish Rumble. It was in Lancaster. Okay. Amish country. Amish country, which is like another world. I digress. Yeah. um And it was really interesting because people, coaches were dressed as leprechauns. That's so fun. You know, like like ah some of the girls had hair clips that had little leprechaun sparkly top hats on it and they would play with it. you know like you can You know, you can get creative. You know, knee socks that had rainbows and pots of gold, like tons of, you know, tons of stuff.
00:54:35
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But they always run late. Right. Of course. So no matter how awesome the environment is, yeah you get to stew in that environment for a very long time.
00:54:48
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This particular tournament, we did not get the AM m wave. We got the PM wave, which means you're going afternoon. Right. Like after 12 PM, you're going in. Oops. And by that time, they're always already And so on Sunday, we went in, we had a 1.30 game, arrived at 12.30, only to find that the 10.30 game was still playing.
00:55:09
Speaker
And there was another game before us. So we actually didn't take the court until like 3.30. Ouch. Which meant we didn't get home until like 10 o'clock at night. Ouch. It was a very, very long day. But what really set my soul ablaze during this particular tournament was the lack of chairs supplied, which yeah for volleyball parents, we all know we show up with chairs. Yeah, i' right.
00:55:32
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Right. you show up I've seen that. People always carry those like foldable chairs with them. Camping chairs. Everybody has a camping chair because you know that all of these venues have that's right no chairs. yeah And they supply chairs for each bench, each team's bench, so to speak, right?
00:55:47
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So this one particular court we played on for the majority of the time, at a certain point, the parents that we played against took the chairs from our girls' bench.
00:55:57
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They left two for the coaches, how fucking considerate of you, but took the rest of them. And so they were sitting on the other side of the court where the parents, spectators yeah have those chairs, right?
00:56:10
Speaker
And then realized when the teams were done warming up, yeah they switched to play. All of these parents picked up all the chairs and walked to the other side of the court. Come on, call them out. What team is this? are they from? I actually don't even know. name. Come on. I think one of them was had Premier on their jerseys. Their jerseys were pink. Those were the most egregious. Okay. Really terrible.
00:56:34
Speaker
And the other one, the jerseys were white. I can go back and look at the schedule. i want I want to know their names. You can call them out. That's horse shit. That's for the girls. That is not for the parents. Too bad for you for not bringing a chair.
00:56:47
Speaker
Yeah. Sit on the floor. It's your problem. Right. Sit on the floor. Like our parents that didn't bring chairs sat on the floor. Yeah. Terrible. See? Just terrible. Volleyball, soccer, those kind of sports, basketball.
00:57:01
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parents shouldn't be allowed to be that close to the playing surface you know hockey we have the boards and stuff of that right and other other sports like if you're in if you're playing tennis i think if you're playing tennis and some other or even squash is like hey stand way back and either the way but i i mean my daughter played soccer was like that was like i just get annoyed even at our own team parents like some there was like uh it's funny an irish dad who was a wooden stop like He only yelled at his daughter and the ref, which is fine. But it got to a point where his daughter turned around one day and said, shut the fuck up, dad. In front of everybody. yeah. like i was like, dude, she can't hear anything the coach is saying because you're coaching over the coach.
00:57:43
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I was like, let it go, dude. Crazy. I mean, and that's why. And and and I remember having at one tournament – um like It's funny, at a tournament where a Canadian team came down from Toronto yeah to play here in New York.
00:57:59
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And the first game we beat them and there was one episode where they kicked the ball, missed our net, and it kept rolling. And so, of course, our goal is like, I'm not getting it. We're leading like whatever, 2-0, whatever it does.
00:58:11
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And so they have to go run and get it. And you give you know part of soccer is killing time, right? Okay. Yeah. So the next day we're playing and a different field and the ball goes by, goes between me and another dad.
00:58:23
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But basically at this dad of the other team, he literally, it was coming at him. He literally lifted his leg and let the ball go down the field. No.
00:58:34
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Right. And this time they're leading. Come on And i look him and was like, what the fuck is wrong with you? And he goes, oh, you guys did it to yesterday. go, no, we didn't do that yesterday. Yesterday, the goalie, who is a player, and it's called gamesmanship, they did that.
00:58:52
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right we were We're not part of the field. We're not part of the game. it's common knowledge that if you're on the sidelines, the parent, and the ball comes to you just stop it. I didn't ask you to pick it up and give it to our kid. Right. But you don't lift your foot up and let it run all the way down the field kill the game.
00:59:06
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. he gave me like some stupid, accent i'm like I'm like, dude, go fuck yourself. Go back to Toronto. was like, I hope we can do a car accident. Sorry, I was like, are we in a fucking car accident? Seriously. You know what? Here's the other thing. And i was like, you know, it's not a nationalist thing. was like, I'm from Vancouver. I'm a Canadian. You're a Canadian.
00:59:23
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Not that we know that, but you're supposed to be better than that. This is what was picked from some fuck fucker from Long Island. Sorry. so bad. yeah What the fuck? Oh, i was so pissed. I was going to punch that guy. The first time and only time I've ever been so angry that I wanted to punch another parent. I'm walking out of here. like you're youre Be a fucking dick.
00:59:43
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You came all the way from Toronto to this tournament to show the girls on the field how to be a poor loser. Right. Right. lack Lack of sportsmanship. i Like, good for you, dad. Hope you're happy.
00:59:55
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Yeah. Agreed. And that's why parents shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the field, the playing surface. Yeah. Honestly. Stay in the bleachers. Yeah, I totally agree. i um you know, one of the other moms who was sitting next to me yeah was so angry that she went over. She was like, I'm going to go say something. And I was like, well, don't say something to the parents. Go check with our coaches first. Yeah, tell the coach. Right. and see And see, you know, take their temperature yeah and see what they think. And, yeah you know, she did. She went over and she asked them and they said not to worry about it because our girls aren't going to sit down anyway. If there's an injury, the coaches will get up and the girls sit, you know, whatever. Right.
01:00:26
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which was fine. I think they were just like, you know, they were, they were avoidant of any confrontation, yeah yeah yeah which is fine. Like it's okay. But I, you know, one of the other parents was at the end in the hallway, which is behind the netting behind the baseline.
01:00:44
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And she was furious by the time that match was done too, because there were two moms from the other team that, sitting at that end where our girls were playing and serving and every time our girls were serving they were making noise for the other team like cheering for the opposite team you know i'm sure can you be heckling fucking young girls playing volleyball like this is again that whole thing a like you know Nobody here is going pro.
01:01:11
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Right. I don't know what the fuck you're doing. Right. And, and, and you know, the, the, the truth of the matter is like the likelihood of any of those girls even playing like D3 college ball is slim. They may be play club or intramural. This is something that they like and that they're having fun and it teaches them teamwork and all that other bullshit. There's no parents standing on this on the sidelines in D1 volleyball, waving their hands and heckling them.
01:01:35
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Right. It's like, what the fuck's going on here? Oh my God. There's some people. It's just they they lose all sense of reality. I'm going to tell you, it's crazy. Crazy. Okay. Well, then
Humorous Exchanges: Dad Jokes
01:01:50
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it time for the dad jokes. Oh boy. And Jessica is a little tired this morning. So I think I have a chance to stump her, but I'm going give her. think you might have a chance. I'm going to give her some easy ones.
01:02:05
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Oh, Lord. this is easy. Remember, remember, dumb yourself down to my level. no Okay. I try all the time. You're too smart for your own good. Dumb yourself down to my level and you will see the light.
01:02:22
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I will try. What do you call a shoe made out of a banana peel?
01:02:31
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What do you call a shoe made out of a banana peel?
01:02:40
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I have
01:02:43
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no idea. need more sound effects. A slipper. Okay, that's kind of funny. That's kind of funny. Come on, that's pretty good, right? That's that's kind of funny. Okay.
01:02:55
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In the same vein. Yeah, great. What did one hat say to the other? Oh, shit. Sorry. Wrong one. You didn't even give me any time.
01:03:07
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Wrong. Flat finger. What did one hat say to the other hat? What did one hat say to the other hat?
01:03:19
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Five, four, three, two, one. Oh, pretty close. to the other hand five stay here i'll go ahead why ah pretty close You go on ahead. The judges will give that to you. You're welcome. okay Okay. Well, just for that, we'll give you the bonus round. Oh, God. The bonus round is, how did the barber win the race?
01:03:50
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How did the barber win the race?
01:03:58
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For the tie break, the OT win, can she give me the answer? How did the barber win the race? like Think like a dumb man. By giving a shortcut? Yes, he did a shortcut. god Winner. That's a good way to end. Episode 42. Those are good, right? Yeah, they're actually pretty funny. They're good. They're really good. They're cute. You know, the thing about them is they're really cute. like i can Exactly. I can tell my niece those and she would get it.
01:04:28
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Yes. She's four. Yes. She would laugh at those. might. Give me one those crazy, awesome kid infectious laughs. She might. Those are awesome. I'll try it. I'm going to try it.
01:04:39
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