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#45: Poulet Frites
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#45: Poulet Frites
The Fresh Prince of Bel Air (Cesar the rescue) is still going strong in the Jessica household. Francis is still tempted but cannot bring himself to tip the coffee joint using the previous customer’s payment screen. Montreal was a successful 48 hour poulet frites fest! Meanwhile, the Brooklyn crew cannot agree on decision optimization tactics in everyday life.
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Introduction and Reflections on Age 45
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Jessica & Francis
Jessica, episode 45.
00:00:03
Jessica
It's a good year.
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Jessica & Francis
How are you doing?
00:00:03
Jessica
45 was a good age.
00:00:05
Jessica & Francis
Episode 45 was a good age.
00:00:08
Jessica
I have a friend who turned 45 today and made sure I said happy birthday.
00:00:10
Jessica & Francis
Oh, congratulations.
00:00:11
Jessica
And I was just like, 45 was a good age. What a number.
00:00:14
Jessica & Francis
Oh my, listen, actually he was
00:00:14
Jessica
I like 45. I wish it was 67. 67.
Mid-Thirties and Youthful Advantages
00:00:18
Jessica & Francis
yeah people people ask all the time about like age.
00:00:18
Jessica
like a six seven
00:00:22
Jessica & Francis
so i To me, the sweet spot was like in my mid thirties. In my mid thirties, like you still have, you're not cynical enough with life. You still have a lot of life ahead of you and you've got some money and you're, you've got self-confidence and and that whole bit.
00:00:39
Jessica & Francis
ah And then you're still, you know, you don't have the gray.
00:00:41
Jessica
I
00:00:42
Jessica & Francis
You're still young enough to do everything and not hurt yourself. 35.
00:00:45
Jessica
break a hip.
00:00:47
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
Parenting and Age: Challenges and Comparisons
00:00:48
Jessica
Yeah. I think, I think the decade, like the, the 10 years between 25 and 35 were, you know, the most evolutionary of, you know, I mean, and in a, in a self reflective way, you know, then you, once you become a parent, it's a different kind of evolution, but like in terms of like without having kids, without being married, I think 32.
00:00:55
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
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Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah
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Jessica & Francis
How old were you when you had the first kid?
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Jessica
thirty two
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Jessica & Francis
Oh, me too. Okay. So that's a decent age, actually.
00:01:14
Jessica
Yeah, it's, you know, it's funny because i look at friends who had kids earlier and yeah it's hard, but then they get, but they get the back end of their life to go and do whatever and they're healthy and, you know, they're able and, you know.
00:01:19
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard.
00:01:28
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. I know.
00:01:32
Jessica & Francis
Okay, but we're not like, I've got friends who are 50 and having their first kid. I'm like, I feel bad for you.
00:01:37
Jessica
That's bananas.
00:01:39
Jessica & Francis
shatering What? I'm like, you're going be 70 when they go to college.
00:01:41
Jessica
Mm-mm.
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Jessica & Francis
okay Different story.
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Jessica
Yeah.
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Jessica & Francis
And it's probably more popular in big cities. But but ah because it's tiring, as you know, right?
00:01:51
Jessica
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Jessica & Francis
But I think when you're young,
00:01:53
Jessica
I'm still tired. have teenagers. I'm tired.
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Jessica & Francis
I have a lot of friends. or not I have a few friends. that who's i my My parents. 24.
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Jessica
was my mom was 24 also.
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Jessica & Francis
When they had us. right That generation different. right But I think. You're not.
00:02:07
Jessica
Mm hmm.
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Jessica & Francis
yeah yeah but but i think like ah
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Jessica & Francis
you're not a lot of the A lot of my friends, younger friends who have young parents. Actually, see they're probably just their parents are probably just a little bit few as older than me if you're in your Anyways, it's like they don't they're not that happy with their parents.
00:02:34
Jessica & Francis
I mean, we all, whatever.
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Jessica
yeah yeah
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Jessica & Francis
People hate their parents. We raise kids and no matter how hard we try to be perfect, we make a mistake. First time parent, first time kid, right?
00:02:41
Jessica
yeah just human you make mistakes being human well the
00:02:43
Jessica & Francis
But... But by the younger ones, I think it's like you realize, hey, come on, if your parents were 25 in like a typical environment and at 25, most people are still trying to find their way in life and develop as a person and you have a kid and you're being forced to go up in a hurry, you're you're definitely not going to make decisions, the right decisions that in hindsight or have a good relationship, right?
00:03:02
Jessica
Mm hmm.
00:03:06
Jessica
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think it's definitely and think it's arrested development at that point, because when you have kids that young, you haven't even grown that much yourself.
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Jessica & Francis
Sure.
00:03:17
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, no, I totally.
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Jessica
and Right. Your life's experiences, for the most part, generally are pretty narrow.
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Jessica & Francis
So I tend to tell those people, hey, dude, you're 30 now. Okay, so just put yourself in your parents' shoes. Like whatever happened, happened, right? Like short of like physical abuse and other weird shit, just you're just unhappy with the decisions they made for
00:03:33
Jessica
Yeah.
Empathy for Young Parents
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Jessica & Francis
you.
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Jessica & Francis
i'm like, listen, think about yourself at 25.
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Jessica
Yeah.
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Jessica & Francis
Okay. And suddenly you have like one or two kids and like have some empathy for your parents, what they went through.
00:03:44
Jessica
Right.
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Jessica & Francis
Cause like they weren't ready. You most definitely wouldn't be ready at 25. definitely wouldn't have been ready at 25. 25 is fucking
Daily Routines and Decision-Making
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Jessica & Francis
around still. Like you you throw a kid into the mix.
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Jessica
Yeah. Well...
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Jessica & Francis
I'm definitely having trouble raising that kid.
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Jessica
Totally. But I mean, you know, i wouldn't have elected to do it that way. But if it happened to happen that way, then I would have ended up having to deal with it.
00:04:06
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, I know.
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Jessica
Right.
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Jessica & Francis
Wait, wait.
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Jessica
I mean, when you make when you make an active choice, but when you make an active of choice, then, you know, you would hope that people would follow up and follow through.
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Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:04:18
Jessica & Francis
Okay, well, this is going to go back to our conversation, our argument, our pre-recording argument about the optimization of of choices.
00:04:20
Jessica
Yes. Active choices and action are different. hmm. Mm
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Jessica & Francis
But before that, before that, before that, we have to tell everybody, I did struggle.
00:04:27
Jessica
hmm.
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Jessica & Francis
It's mid-morning. I did struggle. my My daily struggle with oatmeal happen, coffee, walk.
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Jessica
Okay. ah Did you throw up today?
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Jessica & Francis
No. ah spring It's spring. It's warm again. So now I'm back to my slow-ass two-mile walks in the morning to get coffee.
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Jessica
It is. Okay.
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Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
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Jessica
Okay. Two miles to get to Banquit?
00:04:47
Jessica & Francis
No, no, you you get the coffee and you walk a big loop two miles and come back.
00:04:49
Jessica
Oh, after you get the coffee.
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Jessica & Francis
Right.
00:04:51
Jessica
yeah, yeah
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Jessica & Francis
So like get your steps in.
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Jessica
Right.
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Jessica & Francis
Right.
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Jessica
Sure.
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Jessica & Francis
Kind of thing.
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Jessica
Mm-hmm.
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Jessica & Francis
Remember ran the whole thing about like I could run it my mile in like 13 or 14 minutes or I could walk it in 18 minutes.
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Jessica
Mm-hmm. Right.
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Jessica & Francis
Hmm.
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Jessica
I know. walk it Walk it and enjoy it and have coffee.
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Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
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Jessica
i know.
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Jessica & Francis
Exactly
City Biking Safety and Attitudes
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Jessica & Francis
right. So I'm doing that again.
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Jessica
Rather than torture yourself.
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Jessica & Francis
I'll probably start biking again soon. Hopefully I don't get hit by a car.
00:05:12
Jessica
Oh, my God. we just I just had this conversation the other day about not ever wanting to bike on the city streets again.
00:05:13
Jessica & Francis
Um.
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Jessica & Francis
And they're all out. Like I was walking down the street today and all the bikes are back.
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Jessica
Ugh.
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Jessica & Francis
I get it. And I was like, oh, I get my bike, my city bike again and almost get clipped every other day.
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Jessica
Ugh.
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Jessica
Well, I almost hit somebody the other night in Bay Ridge.
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Jessica & Francis
Yeah. I mean, you can't see them. And, and, uh, oh, it's at night.
00:05:33
Jessica
I didn't really didn't have a light on. He didn't have a light on. He was wearing all dark.
00:05:36
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, definitely.
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Jessica
It was at night.
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Jessica & Francis
I wouldn't, I would never ride at night.
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Jessica
He was wearing all dark clothing.
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Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:05:39
Jessica
like and And I go to make a left turn.
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Jessica & Francis
No, no, no.
00:05:41
Jessica
It was clear.
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Jessica & Francis
Yeah. You can't see them.
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Jessica
i didn't see him.
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Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
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Jessica
And I've got very good eyesight, especially at night at distance.
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Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:05:47
Jessica
No, didn't see him.
00:05:48
Jessica & Francis
The problem is that the bike riders here, they're dicks, right? In the sense, like, if I'm running a bike at night and I know I'm probably not that visible and I approach an intersection, I'm on the brakes looking to make sure it's clear.
00:05:51
Jessica
Yes.
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Jessica
You need to be extra cautious.
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Jessica
Yeah.
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Jessica & Francis
But the people here, they're like, it's my right of way, man. I'm going to go. And I'm like, dude, that might be true.
00:06:03
Jessica
Right.
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Jessica
Right.
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Jessica & Francis
But if I clip you.
00:06:07
Jessica
It's such a narcissistic way to ride a bike.
00:06:08
Jessica & Francis
Well, that's first of all, yes. And then, but if I clip you.
00:06:10
Jessica
Right.
00:06:13
Jessica & Francis
And I admit to the mistake and the insurance pays out money for you to repair your broken bones. You're still the one that's going suffer for life.
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Jessica
Right.
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Jessica & Francis
You could just take an extra three seconds, to be honest, to look both ways before you go at night.
00:06:25
Jessica
Right. Yeah.
00:06:28
Jessica & Francis
Anyway, so I won't ride at night because people here, both sides, bikes are crazy, drivers are crazy, like forget, but you know, broad daylight's dangerous enough.
00:06:28
Jessica
Yeah.
00:06:31
Jessica
No, it's a stupid decision.
00:06:35
Jessica & Francis
And you and I are from the, i don't know about you, you and I from the generation where we don't wear helmets for anything.
00:06:42
Jessica
Yeah, I wear it now, but because I've been hit before, like, but actually I've been hit walking.
00:06:43
Jessica & Francis
Good for you. Oh, shit. Yeah. See, good for you.
00:06:47
Jessica
So and a cross while in a crosswalk, in a crosswalk.
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Jessica & Francis
Oh, I have been at slow, slow speed. I just, whatever. Fuck it.
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Jessica
Yeah.
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Jessica & Francis
But, uh, I believe it.
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Jessica
And I almost get hit all the time, by the way, walking here by, by people on bicycles.
00:06:59
Jessica & Francis
Oh, yeah. Those guys are
00:07:00
Jessica
Not like the e-bikes and everything, delivery people riding on the sidewalks. I mean, we've had this talk, but like every time I step off the curb with a dog, I have to take a beat because I know someone's blowing the light.
00:07:10
Jessica & Francis
I might have been, to me, is I the delivery guys, I walk through and they go, they're pretty good going around you. It's like the regular average Joe on their bike.
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Jessica
Yeah, it's terrible.
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Jessica & Francis
the guy the The weekend warrior in his full cycling gear, like he's doing the Tour de France.
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Jessica
The velodrome people.
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Jessica & Francis
And and and this is a... I don't have it everywhere, but especially in Brooklyn, like they're just going up and down the streets as if like, do you not a pro? I don't know why you're in the fucking click gear and the tight shorts and tour de France shirt.
00:07:39
Jessica & Francis
I'm like, dude, ah it's a neighborhood full of kids and dogs.
00:07:41
Jessica
Well, right.
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Jessica & Francis
So if you want to ride around here and not on the bike track.
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Jessica
Right.
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Jessica & Francis
You have to watch out for people not and they blow by you and they give you the middle finger i'm like, hey, fuck you, dude.
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Jessica
Right. Well,
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Jessica
Mm hmm.
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Jessica & Francis
Come back here. Come back here, big guy.
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Jessica
But those are the. Those are the people who end up in the park doing the loop and and not letting people cross the street. You know, there are lights in the park that turns and then the cross light and they do not abide by the rules at all.
00:08:00
Jessica & Francis
Yes. Totally. And the same thing. Right. Okay. So guess what?
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Jessica
And they just blow the lights.
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Jessica & Francis
They deserve to be fucking run over. I'm sorry.
00:08:10
Jessica
I know. But it's like but at the same time, right, like, you know, fault.
00:08:11
Jessica & Francis
Fuck you guys.
00:08:14
Jessica
No fault is a very interesting thing.
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Jessica & Francis
Well, I know if you're one of my friends and you're bike riding and you're wearing the clicky shoes and everything else, thinking like you're a pro and you and you like try to run people over in the park and the crosswalks, you deserve to be hit.
00:08:23
Jessica
See, I love the k clipless shoes.
00:08:29
Jessica & Francis
Sorry, but not sorry.
00:08:30
Jessica
Yeah, I love those shoes. I think those shoes are great. i mean, they're particularly great when you have to do a lot of uphill riding because you're, you you know, you're, but, but if you, yes.
00:08:36
Jessica & Francis
No, no, no. I understand they have a purpose. And I see people in the gym on the Pelotons with that. But I'm like, but it's like, you're trying too hard.
00:08:45
Jessica
Yeah.
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Jessica & Francis
If I bought a Porsche to drive in the city, this was this is what it's like.
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Jessica
I just,
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Jessica
right.
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Jessica & Francis
I buy a Porsche, a GT3. I know you're car person. I go buy a racing GT3 with the big whale wing and I drive it in the city on the pothole roads.
00:08:55
Jessica
Yep. Yeah. Dude, you're cringe.
00:09:00
Jessica & Francis
And on top of that, on top of that,
00:09:01
Jessica
Drive in city. Ha ha! ha! ha! ha! Ha ha! ha! Ha Ha ha! ha!
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Jessica & Francis
I'm going to get in my fire suit and put my fucking racing helmet on.
00:09:06
Jessica
ha! Ha Ha Ha ha! ha!
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Jessica & Francis
Yeah, see? Now you're laughing. How ridiculous, right?
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Jessica
Ha ha
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Jessica & Francis
And put my freaking racing helmet on with the visor, get in my car, and drive down Atlantic at 30 miles an hour honking people, out my fucking way, out my fucking way, and like, you're a dick.
00:09:13
Jessica
Ha ha Ha ha
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Jessica & Francis
Why are you wearing your helmet? So this no offense to the bike, but to me, that's the same thing.
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Jessica
Yeah.
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Jessica & Francis
If you're wearing your full gear racing gear on your 10-speed bike,
00:09:30
Jessica
That's funny. that's it's ah It's a very extreme.
00:09:33
Jessica & Francis
down at Atlantic Avenue Clinton or Henry, whatever, these but all these families around, and you're being a bitch, that's like me wearing the fire suit with the helmet in my Porsche.
00:09:41
Jessica
That's a very interesting analogy.
00:09:43
Jessica & Francis
ah It is the same thing. Is it not?
00:09:46
Jessica
it's it's i can see the parallel. this With this, I can see the parallel.
00:09:50
Jessica & Francis
And my racing shoes, just in case they slip off the gas pedal.
00:09:51
Jessica
It's just interesting because it's just extreme.
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Jessica & Francis
I'm like, come on.
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Jessica
It's so extreme.
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Jessica & Francis
Okay, yeah forget
Dog Ownership in NYC
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Jessica & Francis
about that forget that. So my usual ritual,
00:10:00
Jessica
Yeah.
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Jessica & Francis
And i I was walking and same thing again, like should I went to Biancui? Should I hit 50% tip for the guy in front of me who was too fucking lazy?
00:10:09
Jessica
Didn't do it. Didn't do it.
00:10:10
Jessica & Francis
i didn't do it. I should have done it. i took a picture. It's definitely going to be our picture for this episode. But as I was walking, it hit me. I'm not going to ask Jessica about the rescue dog again.
00:10:23
Jessica & Francis
And I'm not going to call him Caesar. I am going to call him, I'm going to rename him the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
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Jessica
Ah.
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Jessica & Francis
Because that's exactly what Caesar is.
00:10:33
Jessica
That's true.
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Jessica & Francis
He's gone from rags to riches overnight.
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Jessica
Rags to riches.
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Jessica
It's like Annie.
00:10:38
Jessica & Francis
i was like And I was like, Jessica's making food by hand for these dogs.
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Jessica
mean, seriously.
00:10:46
Jessica & Francis
She doesn't do that for her kids.
00:10:48
Jessica
There he
00:10:49
Jessica & Francis
There he is. He doesn't do it for the kids. don't do it for them.
00:10:51
Jessica
With his bunny.
00:10:52
Jessica & Francis
We're ordering takeout for our kids, but people are like hand-making dog food for their pets.
00:10:58
Jessica
Yeah. Yeah. I've taken a step back from it because...
00:11:02
Jessica & Francis
So how's the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air doing?
00:11:03
Jessica
Oh, he's good. he I think he wants to eat Ruthie.
00:11:07
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Nice.
00:11:07
Jessica
He's afraid of her. he He definitely...
00:11:09
Jessica & Francis
Is he really?
00:11:10
Jessica
Yeah, he's afraid of her. She scares him.
00:11:12
Jessica & Francis
Oh, my God.
00:11:12
Jessica
She's also, you know... disengaged with him. So I think that she loses her, her family status a little bit, you know, he's a little intolerant of her.
00:11:21
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:11:26
Jessica
Um, but it's fear based.
00:11:28
Jessica & Francis
How quickly he's gone soft. What if he has to hit the streets again?
00:11:30
Jessica
It's yeah, maybe I know.
00:11:31
Jessica & Francis
Oh, no.
00:11:32
Jessica
and I think that I don't think he needs to hit the streets and I don't need, I don't think he needs to be any harder than he is. He's perfectly hard enough right now as he stands. Um,
00:11:42
Jessica & Francis
I'm to tell you one thing I hate about dog people.
00:11:44
Jessica
Yeah.
00:11:45
Jessica & Francis
Sorry.
00:11:45
Jessica
Love it. Let's do it.
00:11:47
Jessica & Francis
Because I'm not afraid of pets. I've had tons pets. I've had every pet, every conceivable pet growing up. I don't know why my parents did that, by the way. Because we were poor growing up.
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Jessica
Yeah. It's interesting too.
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Jessica & Francis
Like poor, poor.
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Jessica
don't
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Jessica & Francis
Like shopping at Salvation Army poor. And yet I recall having every fucking pet under the sun. Why? Why my parents do that?
00:12:08
Jessica
know.
00:12:08
Jessica & Francis
That's just idiotic.
00:12:09
Jessica
Maybe they needed the emotional support.
00:12:12
Jessica & Francis
I don't know why they said yes. So anyway, so thank you, mom and dad. But like, honestly, that was dumb.
00:12:16
Jessica
but
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Jessica & Francis
ah ah Okay, so I'm not a vet. This is what I hate about every dog owner that I've met i've met in New York City.
00:12:25
Jessica
Yeah.
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Jessica & Francis
No.
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Jessica
I don't want to pet your dog.
00:12:28
Jessica & Francis
I don't want to pet your dog.
00:12:28
Jessica
Don't have your dog come up to me.
00:12:30
Jessica & Francis
It's not okay that your dog jump on me or sniff me or touch me, especially on New York streets after like, and so now the dog walkers come in and like get in the elevator and the dogs like jump on me.
00:12:32
Jessica
Yep.
00:12:38
Jessica & Francis
I'm like, dude, and I'm nice.
00:12:40
Jessica
Not okay. Yeah.
00:12:41
Jessica & Francis
to I was like, well, your dog is really excitable today. And then they kind of get the message. I'm like,
00:12:46
Jessica & Francis
I just put on new clothes.
00:12:48
Jessica
Yeah.
00:12:48
Jessica & Francis
They're clean. I'm in elevator. Your dog just came off the fucking New York sidewalk and has now pawed me three times and like sniffed me and licked my pants.
00:12:53
Jessica
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:57
Jessica & Francis
like, fuck the fuck, dude.
00:12:58
Jessica
So I agree with you. I don't have any argument. I don't let my dogs do that. I don't let them randomly walk up to people.
00:13:03
Jessica & Francis
You're the only one in New York that's like that.
00:13:04
Jessica
i don't let them. And if people are like, oh, I love your dog. Can I pet them? I'm like, nope. No, you cannot. They are not friendly.
00:13:11
Jessica
Even though they are. i tell them that they're not.
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Jessica & Francis
yeah
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Jessica & Francis
But I'm like, and and they and they and virtually I have yet to come across the, oh, sorry. It's like, they're all like, like, hey, control your pet.
00:13:21
Jessica
No. Yeah. I mean, i don't I don't do that. If someone walks in my house, it's a different story.
00:13:27
Jessica & Francis
Of course.
00:13:27
Jessica
Different story. But when I am out with them in public, no way.
00:13:30
Jessica & Francis
Yes. Oh, really pisses me off.
00:13:33
Jessica
No way. Absolutely not. And it pisses me off because, because
00:13:34
Jessica & Francis
And I keep telling them, said, if you met my daughter or or my wife, they fucking scream at you because they're afraid.
00:13:39
Jessica
well, they're afraid. Sure, because they're afraid. Right.
00:13:42
Jessica & Francis
I'm not afraid. I'm just annoyed.
00:13:44
Jessica
Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:45
Jessica & Francis
Right? I'm like, what the fuck, people?
00:13:46
Jessica
Yeah, fear is a totally, fear is a totally different thing.
00:13:46
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:13:48
Jessica
and And dog owners, I think, either don't understand or they just don't care that other people are not dog people or they are not, you know, not copacetic with a dog walking up to them.
00:14:02
Jessica & Francis
It's totally selfish.
00:14:03
Jessica
Oh, well, it's the same narcissism that you get with the bicycles.
00:14:06
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, totally.
00:14:07
Jessica
It's the same entitlement, you know, and and here in the park, you know, there are off leash hours. There is very specific times that you can have your dogs off leash in the park.
00:14:15
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:14:17
Jessica
And there are very specific areas.
00:14:18
Jessica & Francis
would have to do that.
00:14:19
Jessica
There are two areas, big fields.
00:14:20
Jessica & Francis
Okay.
00:14:21
Jessica
I mean, huge fields.
00:14:22
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:14:23
Jessica
There's no reason why any of the dogs and dog owners shouldn't feel the need to be out of these two areas.
00:14:24
Jessica & Francis
Right.
00:14:29
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:31
Jessica
Dude, all day long. I walk the dogs on leash and there are off leash dogs on the area, like in the areas of the park that are designated leash only.
00:14:33
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:42
Jessica & Francis
People don't care.
00:14:43
Jessica
It's an off leash is only till nine o'clock.
00:14:45
Jessica & Francis
My dog doesn't do that. My dog's special.
00:14:46
Jessica
ah My dog's friendly. I'm like, ah did I tell you I ever got, did I tell you I got into a huge fight with a woman on a Sunday morning? It was like 1030 in the morning. Her, eyes yeah, in the park, like right, right.
00:14:54
Jessica & Francis
In your hood? Yeah.
00:14:57
Jessica
Yeah, absolutely.
00:14:57
Jessica & Francis
The dog that that you hate.
00:14:59
Jessica
Yeah, but no, no, not not even that one.
00:15:00
Jessica & Francis
Another one?
00:15:01
Jessica
I fight with her all the time because she's an asshole.
00:15:02
Jessica & Francis
a
00:15:03
Jessica
Like, she's the most entitled narcissistic asshole.
00:15:04
Jessica & Francis
Another one.
00:15:06
Jessica
But no, this was a different woman.
00:15:06
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:15:08
Jessica
I was walking my big dog. I was walking Mojo in the park, and I keep him leashed because he's fear reactive, which means he likes a lot of dogs, but he doesn't like all dogs.
00:15:11
Jessica & Francis
Okay. Yeah.
00:15:17
Jessica & Francis
Oh. Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:21
Jessica
And if I had him off leash, he'd probably be fine, but I'm in a non-off leash area, so I keep him leashed, right?
00:15:24
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:15:28
Jessica & Francis
Right. Right.
00:15:29
Jessica
And it gives me control over him. i mean, he's 85 pounds. It gives me control over him so that there's no confrontation.
00:15:37
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:15:37
Jessica
Now, I shouldn't have to worry about random dogs coming up to me or my dog in these areas.
00:15:39
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:15:43
Jessica & Francis
Yep. Yep.
00:15:43
Jessica
Right. I do it very intentionally. It's completely by design.
00:15:47
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:15:47
Jessica
This woman, Sunday morning, her dog's off leash and I see them coming and she's looking at her phone and the dog is walking next to her. And i look at Mojo and I look at them and I see that she's not looking up.
00:16:01
Jessica
Like she's still, you know, face deep in her phone.
00:16:01
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:16:04
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:16:04
Jessica
So I take the dog, my dog, and I walk him off the trail into the woods.
00:16:10
Jessica & Francis
Okay.
00:16:11
Jessica
Probably 10 feet, 15 feet off the trail, which should be a wide enough berth.
00:16:15
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:17
Jessica
Right. So this woman sees me and I'm just standing there. And maybe I have resting bitch face because this happens all the time and I absolutely hate it It's like one of my biggest pet peeves here.
00:16:28
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:16:28
Jessica
So I probably have resting bitch face, but I feel like I have resting bitch face a lot.
00:16:30
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:16:32
Jessica
So whatever.
00:16:32
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:16:34
Jessica
So she looks at me and she says to me, he's friendly. And I said, and I said, I don't care.
00:16:42
Jessica & Francis
Oh, I love how they fucking always say that. I don't care. Fuck you, dude.
00:16:47
Jessica
And she goes, look at how scared you are. And I said, honey, this is not fear.
00:16:52
Jessica & Francis
I'm afraid for you.
00:16:53
Jessica
Right. i said this is this
00:16:53
Jessica & Francis
but My dog decides to turn on you. You're fucking dead.
00:16:56
Jessica
right I said, this is not fear. You're misidentifying the look on my face as fear, but it's really, truly disgust because you're an entitled bitch who not only has your dog off leash, but now you have taken control of the entire area of this park.
00:17:02
Jessica & Francis
Oh, my God. Yeah.
00:17:11
Jessica
Right.
00:17:12
Jessica & Francis
Oh,
00:17:13
Jessica
She looks at me, right? She's giving me a hard time the whole entire time. Not that I care. She looks at me and says to me, i don't follow the park rules.
00:17:23
Jessica
I, or the rules of Brooklyn. She goes, I follow God's rules.
00:17:28
Jessica & Francis
oh here we go.
00:17:28
Jessica
Right?
00:17:30
Jessica & Francis
Oh, shit. Nice.
00:17:32
Jessica
Oh, my God. i It took everything for me to just shut my mouth and walk in the other direction.
00:17:37
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:41
Jessica
it was and she never put the dog on leash. I mean, she just kept on walking with the dog off leash. I saw her go all the way across the street, all the way up. It's really, it's something. So, yeah, so I agree with you.
00:17:52
Jessica
Dog ownership in the city is a very narcissistic position. It's like this weird, cultural, culty thing.
00:17:55
Jessica & Francis
Oh.
00:17:59
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:18:00
Jessica
You know, ah it's it's like a disengagement with reality for a lot of dog owners.
00:18:05
Jessica & Francis
Oh, big time.
00:18:05
Jessica
Right. It's like their own world.
00:18:07
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow.
00:18:08
Jessica
Yeah, I'm not I'm not a fan.
00:18:08
Jessica & Francis
Interesting.
00:18:10
Jessica
I am definitely not a fan.
00:18:10
Jessica & Francis
That's a good one. was going to every time I meet someone with dogs not on a leash or theyre not paying attention, it's like, Or my dog's been, listen, your dogs can get killed or bitten or into a fight something, and you're going to blame somebody else, but actually it's your fault for not putting on the leash.
00:18:18
Jessica
Yeah.
00:18:20
Jessica
Right. That's right. That's exactly right.
00:18:24
Jessica & Francis
It's like, what the fuck's wrong with you?
00:18:25
Jessica
Yeah, well, that's like my arch nemesis in the neighborhood. You know, she's at fault because she doesn't muzzle train her damn dog.
00:18:27
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.
00:18:31
Jessica
Just muzzle train the fucking dog.
00:18:31
Jessica & Francis
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:33
Jessica
This is not brain surgery.
00:18:34
Jessica & Francis
I mean, well, these rules, it's just stupid.
00:18:34
Jessica
It's like, it's not neuroscience.
00:18:36
Jessica & Francis
The rules exist for a reason. I keep everybody safe.
00:18:37
Jessica
Right. Right.
00:18:40
Jessica & Francis
No comp, no problems.
00:18:40
Jessica
But.
00:18:41
Jessica & Francis
It's like, but it's like, again, it's the same thing. like lanes on the road. You don't have to follow them, but we follow them because we want to have a civilized society and not get into, I've been in places in Asia where people don't follow the lines and trust me, it's fucking bananas.
00:18:47
Jessica
Right. That's right. Right. Right.
00:18:54
Jessica
It's bananas.
00:18:55
Jessica & Francis
And you don't need that in your life.
00:18:55
Jessica
It's bananas.
00:18:58
Jessica & Francis
Have a little order and respect for others.
00:18:59
Jessica
It's not even about being like a quote rule follower.
00:19:01
Jessica & Francis
It was a respect for others thing, right?
00:19:02
Jessica
It's literally, it is.
00:19:03
Jessica & Francis
People have no respect.
00:19:04
Jessica
That's exactly right. and And the entitlement that they feel, you know, naturally leads to this for real.
00:19:08
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bring back Sean Avery.
00:19:12
Jessica
Well, it's funny because, Sean Avery, whatever happened to him?
00:19:13
Jessica & Francis
His videos were funny. Oh, my God. He moved, right? I thought he moved from New York.
00:19:18
Jessica
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where I'm at.
00:19:20
Jessica & Francis
But those videos used to do like stopping bike bike delivery guys on the sidewalk or or he'd like look at people. There's a the funny one where two guys are arguing outside of a subway station and then they go, you want to fight? You want to go? You want to go? And he's recording them. He's like, you guys are not going to go.
00:19:35
Jessica & Francis
ah You guys.
00:19:35
Jessica
That's awesome.
00:19:37
Jessica & Francis
you look And they're trying to argue. They're looking him. He's you guys. Look at you guys. You're not going to get into fight. You guys are not fighters. Don't bullshit me. They argue. They kind of walk away. He's laughing. He's like, you guys. Yeah, I told You're not going to fight.
00:19:47
Jessica & Francis
You guys.
00:19:47
Jessica
That's so funny.
00:19:47
Jessica & Francis
ah
00:19:48
Jessica
I've never seen it. I'll have to look for it.
00:19:49
Jessica & Francis
That was a good one. was like laughing so hard. Oh my God. okay, okay, okay.
00:19:53
Jessica
Sean Avery.
00:19:54
Jessica & Francis
okay So, the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air is doing great.
00:19:55
Jessica
Yeah.
00:19:58
Jessica
Yeah, he's fine.
00:19:58
Jessica & Francis
We're happy with that.
00:19:59
Jessica
Yeah.
00:19:59
Jessica & Francis
I see him sleeping on the floor. Thank you very much. My trip to Montreal was, oh wait. Yeah, well, let's go there.
00:20:05
Jessica
Yeah, let's do that.
00:20:06
Jessica & Francis
Trip to Montreal was awesome.
00:20:08
Jessica
That's good.
00:20:10
Jessica & Francis
Saw my god sister and friends from Vancouver. So some other friends from New York, New Jersey, who have an amazing little French bulldog named Luna.
00:20:21
Jessica & Francis
So docile, like she gets in the little tote bag and they carry her everywhere.
00:20:21
Jessica
Cute. Yeah.
00:20:27
Jessica
Yeah.
00:20:27
Jessica & Francis
And when she's on the ground, No arguing, no barking, just an amazing dog.
00:20:35
Jessica
Awesome.
00:20:35
Jessica & Francis
And they took it.
00:20:35
Jessica
I love that for them.
00:20:36
Jessica & Francis
So they drive to Montreal and we meet and we eat our way through Montreal. I was only there for, um my God, like I flew on a Wednesday afternoon. left on a Friday afternoon.
00:20:47
Jessica & Francis
Okay, 48 hours in Montreal.
00:20:47
Jessica
Yeah. Okay.
00:20:49
Jessica & Francis
And like we ate our way through Montreal. It's like, holy shit.
00:20:51
Jessica
Oh, I bet. Well, I mean, honestly, like what else do you do in Montreal?
00:20:56
Jessica & Francis
And whatever this thing is, I mean, I know it's a French thing, but the poulet frites.
00:21:02
Jessica
It's a fried chicken.
00:21:04
Jessica & Francis
Just, no, I mean, some fried.
00:21:05
Jessica
Oh, chicken and fries. Yeah.
00:21:07
Jessica & Francis
Yep, some fried, some rotisserie chicken.
00:21:07
Jessica
Yeah, it's just chicken and fries.
00:21:09
Jessica & Francis
Like, I mean, it's a French thing to begin with, but now it's like reached fever pitch, I guess, in French land.
00:21:10
Jessica
like like Yeah.
00:21:14
Jessica
Okay. All right.
00:21:18
Jessica & Francis
Awesome. So that you get it's everywhere. Small shop, big shop.
00:21:22
Jessica
So not steak fried anymore? Now it's poulet fried?
00:21:24
Jessica & Francis
high-end restaurant. I mean, they have that, but that the chicken thing is I think, I think the chicken thing, obviously, because all religions can eat chicken, right?
00:21:30
Jessica
Right.
00:21:31
Jessica & Francis
So whether you're Middle Eastern French, African French, French French.
00:21:32
Jessica
But it still would... Yeah, but if you were Middle Eastern French, it would still have to be halal, wouldn't it?
00:21:40
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:40
Jessica
Yeah, it still has...
00:21:41
Jessica & Francis
But, but chicken, you know, likes like, you know, chicken and rice, it's all halal.
00:21:41
Jessica
Yeah.
00:21:43
Jessica & Francis
Like, like it's, ah it's the only meat that satisfies pretty much every, like you can't eat beef, can't eat whatever, pork,
00:21:44
Jessica
Yeah.
00:21:49
Jessica
Yeah, that's true, I guess. Beef. Yeah, Hindus don't eat beef. Nobody eats pork.
00:21:52
Jessica & Francis
Right.
00:21:53
Jessica
I mean...
00:21:53
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. So chicken, but it was amazing. Like, oh my God. So it was like, we landed there, walk around the McGill campus, see this guy selling Polish sausages. oh we got to eat that.
00:22:05
Jessica & Francis
like Eat that. Oh, but it's too close to dinner. Fuck it.
00:22:07
Jessica
Who cares?
00:22:07
Jessica & Francis
Eat it. Eat it. Go back to the hotel, have a drink. Oh wait, they've got like these cool Parmesan truffle, warm potato chips on the menu.
00:22:17
Jessica
Oh, those sound awesome.
00:22:17
Jessica & Francis
I'm a sucker for potato. Oh my God. It was so good. Have another one. Then it's like, Oh, we got free dinner. You're already full. Let's go eat dinner. Pule free. And this guy was like, rolled out. Just, i'll so I'll send pictures to you.
00:22:30
Jessica & Francis
He just rolled out this platter. It was like fried chicken, rotisserie chicken, you know, poutine salad, stuff to the max.
00:22:34
Jessica
Hmm.
00:22:38
Jessica
poutine is good
00:22:40
Jessica & Francis
Okay. And then, uh, And then I couldn't even breakfast. it But again, hotel buffet breakfast. like I can't even touch it. And I was like, I just want two eggs scrambled.
00:22:53
Jessica & Francis
That's fine. you know i need to choose a meat. Okay, sausage. The lady's you don't want bacon? I'm like, isn't it bacon or sausage? No, it it's bacon and sausage.
00:23:01
Jessica
take no take all the pork have all the pork why
00:23:02
Jessica & Francis
I'm like, no. I'm like, just bring. And she brings out. I'm like, you want a croissant? I'm like, okay. She brings two. I'm like, no, no, no. I can't. Can't eat this. I'm having a bite of the croissant, the bite of sausage, a bite of the egg. like, are you going to box I'm like, it's a hotel. How am I going to heat this up again later? Forget it.
00:23:22
Jessica & Francis
So I felt bad about that. because I didn't want to order breakfast. was free, part of the hotel.
00:23:28
Jessica
Right. Free.
00:23:29
Jessica & Francis
And then you roll into my friend's thing across the street at another hotel. So we go there, it's free breakfast. So i'm sitting there having more coffee. No, don't give me any food. I can't i can eat it. I can't eat it. And then we walked around Old Montreal and and you know there's so many cafes and everything there. And then we finally sat on lunch at this lobster place, lobster roll place.
00:23:54
Jessica & Francis
Amazing again. It was like I had mussels. That's all I could stuff in was mussels and fries because it seems kind of light, right? So there's no bread.
00:24:01
Jessica
yeah
00:24:01
Jessica & Francis
It's not doing. Anyways, they had loster roses grade poutin lobster Poutine. Lobster poutine. Oh, lobster. Lobster and snow crab poutine. So good.
00:24:11
Jessica
That sounds good.
00:24:12
Jessica & Francis
And then more walking.
00:24:13
Jessica
But wait, what was the gravy like with the poutine with the fish, with the shellfish?
00:24:16
Jessica & Francis
It was good.
00:24:17
Jessica
Was it beef based?
00:24:19
Jessica & Francis
Oh, yeah, the standard gravy.
00:24:20
Jessica
The regular gravy. Yeah.
00:24:22
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:22
Jessica
I think it's beef based, isn't it?
00:24:24
Jessica & Francis
i would I would think so.
00:24:26
Jessica
Yeah, I think it is.
00:24:26
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, very good. And, like, so no you know, sometimes it gets soggy. But this was crispy. Crispy fries, lobster, crab, poutine.
00:24:34
Jessica
Mm-hmm.
00:24:36
Jessica
That sounds nice, actually.
00:24:36
Jessica & Francis
Awesome.
00:24:37
Jessica & Francis
Kept walking around. It was cold. Oh, my God. It was, like, 25 degrees.
00:24:41
Jessica
Yeah, not a vacation.
00:24:41
Jessica & Francis
was freezing and windy, because you're down by the river.
00:24:43
Jessica
that's just a trip.
00:24:45
Jessica & Francis
It windy. So cold.
00:24:47
Jessica
Yeah.
00:24:48
Jessica & Francis
ah So you're eating more. You just have go inside, eat more. eat, eat, eat.
00:24:51
Jessica
Right.
00:24:52
Jessica & Francis
eat Everyone's friendly Montreal. It's freaking awesome. um And then after that big lunch, another rotisserie chicken, very famous, like it's called Lune.
00:25:04
Jessica & Francis
Like it's like being in New York and going to...
00:25:09
Jessica
There's no famous rotisserie chicken in New York.
00:25:11
Jessica & Francis
No, but like big name restaurant, like pasties maybe, right? Or Balthazar in the heyday, right?
00:25:14
Jessica
Okay. Sure.
00:25:15
Jessica & Francis
and you go there and it's like loud and it's cool. It's trendy.
00:25:18
Jessica
French.
00:25:19
Jessica & Francis
yeah it was great. It's French.
00:25:20
Jessica
French bistro style.
00:25:21
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, um again, amazing food, desserts. And we had this really funny server. She was like like knowledgeable, good, attentive, honest.
00:25:36
Jessica & Francis
Her name is Audrey. And but funny, like a good sense of humor, which is nice. Right. Because, you know, in some of these restaurants, people get like uptight and stuffy about stuff. And she's and the thing I want, I guess, Canada, maybe outside New York was like, hey, there's five of us and they're selling chickens like half chicken, whole chicken.
00:25:43
Jessica
Yeah. Right.
00:25:55
Jessica & Francis
and We wanted to try different things like the guinea fowl and pork.
00:25:58
Jessica
right
00:26:00
Jessica & Francis
And she's like, no, no, no, you ordered too much. I think you should order just like half a chicken and a pork. I'm like, I don't think that's enough for us. Like we're hungry. It's five of us. And she kept saying that you ordered too much.
00:26:11
Jessica & Francis
i' was like, what restaurant have you ever been that says to you, you've ordered too much? A good restaurant.
00:26:15
Jessica
not and Not enough of them.
00:26:17
Jessica & Francis
Not enough of them, right? the Most them us just pad the bill, pad the bill, into right?
00:26:18
Jessica
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:21
Jessica & Francis
So that was really nice.
00:26:21
Jessica
That leads me to a funny story that I'll tell later.
00:26:23
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, it was really nice. And then had that the next morning to breakfast again. Then I took off. was like, holy shit, I've eaten way too much. but But the real funny story about the whole trip is that I tried to pay for three meals, like for one of the three meals.
00:26:41
Jessica
Okay.
00:26:42
Jessica & Francis
And I was thwarted every time by my friends. So thank you to my friends, but fuck you too.
00:26:45
Jessica
That's funny.
00:26:48
Jessica & Francis
Because because the first night, yeah, the first night, the first night, weariness it was close to closing time.
00:26:48
Jessica
Nice. You can't just have some gratitude. hu
00:26:56
Jessica & Francis
More of a casual place, rotisserie chicken, nice, super nice owner. One guy operating, I don't know how he did it, like served us. made the food, everything.
00:27:06
Jessica
That's impressive.
00:27:07
Jessica & Francis
And I went to the bat the bathroom. I snuck off to the bathroom. I'm going to pay that bill. So I go to the bathroom at the back. But he's busy cleaning up. and there's only one guy, right? So I can't fucking get his attention. And I'm in the in the back. I'm waiting. and waiting. Okay.
00:27:25
Jessica & Francis
He's busy cleaning dishes. I'm waving at him, trying not to catch get attention of my friends. And he's still cleaning. I'm going to go to the bathroom really quick and come back out.
00:27:33
Jessica
Mm-mm.
00:27:33
Jessica & Francis
So to the bathroom. I come back out.
00:27:35
Jessica
Drop the check.
00:27:35
Jessica & Francis
He's still cleaning. I'm like, no problem. And I'm waving at him. And then my god sister sees me. she said and She's looking me. What are you doing back there?
00:27:44
Jessica
That's funny.
00:27:44
Jessica & Francis
Oh, nothing. Nothing. I'm just, i and I was half like inspecting. I don't understand how he made all the, we still don't understand how he made all the food hot, crispy,
00:27:52
Jessica
Yeah, that's kind of... and was Were you guys the only ones in there?
00:27:55
Jessica & Francis
We were, but there was a couple people doing to-go orders because it was like a casual kind of place. But it also had table seating that he wanted to serve us.
00:28:01
Jessica
Yeah.
00:28:03
Jessica & Francis
So couldn't figure it out. Anyways, I came back to the table.
00:28:06
Jessica & Francis
And I waved the guy down. Okay, I'm paying the bill. And he's like, no, no.
00:28:11
Jessica
Yeah.
00:28:11
Jessica & Francis
It's already been taken care of. a like, how? I've only been gone 90 seconds. And then they start laughing at at the table.
00:28:20
Jessica
Because they're all onto you.
00:28:21
Jessica & Francis
Like, wow, we're way ahead of you, man. Like, fuck. Fuck.
00:28:23
Jessica
Because they're all onto you.
00:28:24
Jessica & Francis
Okay, fine. I'm like, okay. I've been thwarted once. No problem. There's more meals coming. Okay. The next day at lunch at lobster roll place, I'm like determined.
00:28:35
Jessica & Francis
I tell on the table, don't even think I'm out fucking paying. I'm paying.
00:28:41
Jessica & Francis
I will not be friends with you if you guys don't let me pay.
00:28:44
Jessica
Oh, that's all it takes?
00:28:47
Jessica & Francis
Yep. That's all it takes.
00:28:48
Jessica
Wow, what a revelation after like eight years.
00:28:50
Jessica & Francis
And then and and then so and and they're busy. So I get into it. And went in the next hotel bathroom is downstairs. Run downstairs. I come back up.
00:29:01
Jessica & Francis
Here's my card. fuck? I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? It's already been. Jesus Christ almighty. What the hell is going on here? Thank you again. But fuck you again.
00:29:14
Jessica & Francis
OK. OK.
00:29:17
Jessica & Francis
okay
00:29:17
Jessica
I think at this point they're just playing games with you.
00:29:20
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, this is not like this is horseshit.
00:29:22
Jessica
They like seeing you angry.
00:29:23
Jessica & Francis
OK, this is the best part of the story this is the best part of the story.
00:29:23
Jessica
They're not really your friends. but
00:29:26
Jessica & Francis
And I wish and it's too bad that we don't have this on video, but the people were there will understand what i'm talking about. So we get to L'Aul. It's like the the peak meal of our trip, or at least in the two days that I'm there.
00:29:37
Jessica & Francis
And we go there and again, don't order that mail we order this this, this, this. Great, great meal. All right. The bathroom is in the corner. They're eating dessert. And there's like, you know, all these restaurants are no one's getting to you that quickly.
00:29:51
Jessica & Francis
mean, it's attentive, but they're busy.
00:29:52
Jessica
Yeah. Right.
00:29:54
Jessica & Francis
I there serving tables is loud. Like it's so loud in this place that everyone's Apple Watch is like off the charts. Ninety five decibels. Alert, alert, alert, alert.
00:30:04
Jessica
Funny.
00:30:05
Jessica & Francis
Like we're laughing.
00:30:05
Jessica
Loud environment, loud environment, loud environment.
00:30:06
Jessica & Francis
like Oh, we're so right. Right. Right. So I run to the bathroom. OK. On my way there. I'm sorry. On the way back. ah server Audrey.
00:30:19
Jessica & Francis
Audrey.
00:30:22
Jessica & Francis
Here's my credit card. They're from Vancouver. i am from New York. I have to pay. Here's my credit card. And she makes this face. She's
00:30:31
Jessica
oh no.
00:30:36
Jessica & Francis
And she's like, ah they just paid. I'm like, how is that possible? it takes It would take you at least three minutes to get the terminal out. Because, know, it's like Europe. They bring the terminal to the table. It's not like U.S. s where you give them the card. They take it and come back.
00:30:52
Jessica & Francis
I was like, I looked up. You weren't there. i ran to the bathroom. I came back to find you.
00:30:59
Jessica & Francis
How could they have already paid? She's like, they already paid. I'm like, can you cancel it? No. And I'm going to French accent, but she's like, I can't. I can't. Like, that would be really difficult.
00:31:08
Jessica
Oh, come on, do the French accent. Come on.
00:31:10
Jessica & Francis
No, I'm not going to do it.
00:31:11
Jessica
Try it. Let's do it.
00:31:12
Jessica & Francis
The Canadian nasally French accent.
00:31:12
Jessica
Try it
00:31:14
Jessica & Francis
But the look on her face, like, the it was just awesome. like Like, I started laughing. And I got the table like, are you fucking kidding me?
00:31:22
Jessica
And now your friends are laughing because now it's big it's become the biggest joke.
00:31:22
Jessica & Francis
think Yeah. Are you fucking kidding me?
00:31:28
Jessica & Francis
That's three. What the fuck?
00:31:30
Jessica
They're doing it on purpose.
00:31:32
Jessica & Francis
Oh, my God.
00:31:34
Jessica
They're doing it because it's funny.
00:31:35
Jessica & Francis
Anyways, the Jersey city couple, I got to take the Lugans.
00:31:36
Jessica
Pissing you off is funny.
00:31:39
Jessica & Francis
I've never been there. That's on me. I don't care what they say.
00:31:41
Jessica
Oh, that's funny too.
00:31:43
Jessica & Francis
Vancouver. God sister going in June.
00:31:45
Jessica
Lugers.
00:31:47
Jessica & Francis
There's a big steak dinner. That's gotta be on me. Or I'm never visiting ever again. Maybe that's the plan.
00:31:54
Jessica
maybe you're giving them Maybe you're giving them too much information.
00:31:54
Jessica & Francis
you will find I was like, that's never, and that's never happened to me, man. Like, I've never been beaten to the bill, honestly. Swear to God.
00:32:05
Jessica
Well, you know what?
00:32:05
Jessica & Francis
That's crazy.
00:32:06
Jessica
So here's here's a flip side.
00:32:08
Jessica & Francis
Yes.
00:32:09
Jessica
gratitude that your friends love you enough to take you out to eat.
00:32:10
Jessica & Francis
I'm super grateful.
00:32:13
Jessica
Right? Like, oh my God, they like me enough?
00:32:14
Jessica & Francis
Super annoyed, but super grateful.
00:32:15
Jessica
Well, either they really want to piss you off and annoy you, which probably also means that they love you because, I mean, really nobody puts that much effort into somebody they don't like.
00:32:20
Jessica & Francis
Oh, my God.
00:32:24
Jessica
But, you know. Cash.
00:32:26
Jessica & Francis
Finally, the Uber driver listened to me because I had cash.
00:32:29
Jessica
inlet
00:32:30
Jessica & Francis
I said, don't take the money from I got cash, buddy boy.
00:32:30
Jessica
ah
00:32:33
Jessica & Francis
So you're taking money from me and not from them.
00:32:33
Jessica
cash
00:32:38
Jessica
That's funny. That's really
Travel and Cultural Observations
00:32:40
Jessica
funny.
00:32:40
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. But so good trip. Too much eating. Super cold. um
00:32:45
Jessica
I do have a question.
00:32:46
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:32:47
Jessica
and Okay. So coming back from Montreal, Montreal bagels or New York bagels?
00:32:49
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. you know what?
00:32:55
Jessica
I know that Montreal people are very devoted to their Montreal bagels.
00:32:59
Jessica & Francis
I was so full. I didn't have a bagel right there, but I've been there enough times to know that I'm not enough of a bagel connoisseur to be able to tell the difference.
00:33:10
Jessica
Really?
00:33:11
Jessica & Francis
Yup.
00:33:11
Jessica
Okay.
00:33:13
Jessica & Francis
Both equally good.
00:33:14
Jessica
Okay.
00:33:15
Jessica & Francis
Make an egg and cheese on a bagel, pastrami and a bagel blah blah blah. Oh, they did go to Schwartz, which is the Montreal version of cats.
00:33:25
Jessica
Oh.
00:33:25
Jessica & Francis
And it's going to be big line that was next meal.
00:33:27
Jessica
Sure.
00:33:28
Jessica & Francis
I didn't get to go to that meal. um
00:33:31
Jessica
Sounds like you missed out. they probably couldve You probably could have paid for that meal.
00:33:34
Jessica & Francis
I was so full. I don't know if I could ah get, I don't get that fight.
00:33:37
Jessica
See? You got you got lazy.
00:33:39
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:41
Jessica
you still got lazy, didn't show up for the one meal you probably could have beat them to.
00:33:41
Jessica & Francis
Big time. Big time. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. ah But still a beautiful town. Compact. You know what it is It's like...
00:33:54
Jessica & Francis
oh
00:33:56
Jessica & Francis
it' like being bank I mean, I grew up in Vancouver. It's like being Vancouver. Or I think it's like being in Santa Monica... Not so much San Fran. But these are like these these towns are big enough to feel like a city, high rises.
00:34:12
Jessica & Francis
But everything is sort of within 10, 20-minute reach, right? Like McGill is mcgills smack in the middle of downtown, but not shitty downtown. Like downtown next to all the – like Chanel.
00:34:25
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. and the Canada Goose.
00:34:26
Jessica
Oh, okay.
00:34:26
Jessica & Francis
and So you're like, oh, what this is it's like what if your campus and some of the NYU.
00:34:28
Jessica
Well,
00:34:33
Jessica
but it's like Princeton. That's like Princeton.
00:34:34
Jessica & Francis
But yeah, right. What if your what if your campus were smack in the middle of Soho, but on a mountaintop and then at the bottom of the mountaintop is like Chanel.
00:34:36
Jessica
Yeah. Right.
00:34:42
Jessica & Francis
like Oh, shit.
00:34:43
Jessica
Yeah. That's, I think it's, it's a nice cross section of stuff.
00:34:46
Jessica & Francis
Totally.
00:34:47
Jessica
Did you, did you go and look at McGill on purpose or was that just incidental?
00:34:47
Jessica & Francis
I mean, it's like amazing. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. The trip I had planned a while ago, like months ago.
00:34:54
Jessica
Okay.
00:34:55
Jessica
i've never I've never been to Miguel.
00:34:55
Jessica & Francis
um I didn't even know McGill was that close.
00:34:57
Jessica & Francis
I mean, I knew it was close.
00:34:59
Jessica
Yeah.
00:34:59
Jessica & Francis
I didn't even know was that close. And then ah I'm looking at my hotel and I was at the Omni on this main strip. And I look and I'm like, Right across the street from hotel is like the Faculty of Business at McGill.
00:35:12
Jessica & Francis
I'm like, oh, what the fuck? Like, okay.
00:35:14
Jessica
Okay.
00:35:15
Jessica & Francis
And you walk around. And and the the campus is like kind of like UBC like for me in Vancouver. UBC is very isolated in its own little park. So that's nice about Vancouver. Where's McGill, you're downtown.
00:35:25
Jessica & Francis
Anyways, Canadian campus, typical Canadian campus. Happy people, even though it was cold. And kids everywhere. Everyone speaks English.
00:35:34
Jessica
Right.
00:35:34
Jessica & Francis
If you spoke French, you'd be better.
00:35:36
Jessica
Sure.
00:35:37
Jessica & Francis
Sure, but not that people are unfriendly that you spoke English.
00:35:40
Jessica
Well, that's interesting because that doesn't happen a lot.
00:35:41
Jessica & Francis
Okay. Unlike going to Paris, I think.
00:35:42
Jessica
and
00:35:45
Jessica
Or anywhere else in France.
00:35:46
Jessica & Francis
Sure, right? So, yeah.
00:35:48
Jessica
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:49
Jessica & Francis
Everyone's super friendly. Lots of like, I'm sure there are lots of American new York kids that study there with their Trader Joe bags and everything else they're walking around, right?
00:35:58
Jessica
That's a thing.
00:35:59
Jessica & Francis
It's a thing.
00:35:59
Jessica
It's a massive thing right now.
00:36:00
Jessica & Francis
I see a thing. Total thing, right?
00:36:02
Jessica
it was just telling my neighbor about that the other day and she looked at me like I had six heads and I said, nope.
00:36:02
Jessica & Francis
Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:07
Jessica
I said, they are selling, the Trader Joe's tote bags are selling online for a ridiculous amount of money.
00:36:09
Jessica & Francis
Oh my God. Totally. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People love that shit.
00:36:16
Jessica
They love it Europe and Canada, anywhere that there's no Trader Joe's, they are clamoring for these bags, which is insane.
00:36:17
Jessica & Francis
It's like the in thing out with the young girls, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So true.
00:36:24
Jessica
So funny.
00:36:25
Jessica & Francis
Saw them everywhere. So true. Status symbol. Blah, blah. Yeah.
00:36:29
Jessica
It's so funny because mine, I'm like, they're all stained and they're all like, you know, literally used for groceries, shrunken by the laundry when I've spilled something.
00:36:31
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Yeah.
00:36:35
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:40
Jessica
It's, I find it.
00:36:42
Jessica & Francis
I wish Montreal were a little bit closer. Six hour drive.
00:36:45
Jessica
Yeah.
00:36:45
Jessica & Francis
little long. Four hours.
00:36:46
Jessica
Yeah.
00:36:46
Jessica & Francis
Awesome. I'd go all time probably. Six hours. a little bit long.
00:36:50
Jessica
It's like going to Pittsburgh.
00:36:51
Jessica & Francis
Too long. Right. Yeah. It's like an hour and a half too long. would drive.
00:36:55
Jessica
Yeah. Well, I feel that way about a lot of places.
00:36:58
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. But what's your funny Montreal story?
00:37:01
Jessica
Um, what was, did I have a funny Montreal?
00:37:04
Jessica & Francis
I droned on too long. You've forgotten it.
00:37:05
Jessica
Yeah, I did.
00:37:06
Jessica & Francis
You said I have a funny Montreal.
00:37:06
Jessica
don't know have a funny Montreal.
00:37:07
Jessica & Francis
Who cares?
00:37:08
Jessica
story I just, I had been there.
00:37:08
Jessica & Francis
Let's go to optimization.
00:37:10
Jessica
they had been there for business once and I just remember it being in the spring, like the late spring.
00:37:11
Jessica & Francis
Oh, yeah.
00:37:13
Jessica
So it was warm.
00:37:14
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:15
Jessica
And I just remember a lot of unhoused people laying.
00:37:18
Jessica & Francis
Really?
00:37:18
Jessica
and Yeah. At the time, but this is a long time ago. Um,
00:37:21
Jessica & Francis
Could be because, like, you know, winters are harsh, so you're not going to see them outside.
00:37:24
Jessica
they are harsh. Yeah. So you like the, in this, but it's like here,
00:37:26
Jessica & Francis
When it warms up, I can believe it.
00:37:28
Jessica
Yeah, it's like here, right? And and every major city has a homeless, an unhoused contingency.
00:37:29
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:37:33
Jessica & Francis
Well, the West Coast for sure because the weather so mild.
00:37:36
Jessica
Yeah, and and Portland actually was one of the worst experiences I've had with people who are unhoused.
00:37:39
Jessica & Francis
Oh, yeah. That's like Vancouver. Like downtown Vancouver is like that.
00:37:42
Jessica
It's terrible. They're aggressive, actually. i found them to be aggressive in Portland.
00:37:45
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:47
Jessica
And I don't know if I just got lucky with the confrontations I had, but yeah.
00:37:48
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:37:51
Jessica & Francis
No, they're definitely aggressive in San Fran, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, because I think it's just, they've got um really big welfare programs.
00:37:54
Jessica
Yeah.
00:38:00
Jessica & Francis
It's warm. The lefties kind of, i don't know, don't want to be offensive.
00:38:03
Jessica
Right.
00:38:05
Jessica & Francis
And like, so they sort of, let it happen so to speak um that's one of the big negatives of living out in the west coast I think at this point in time and hopefully they clean it up somehow I don't know how but maybe they never get around to it um yeah
00:38:09
Jessica
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:16
Jessica
Agreed.
00:38:19
Jessica
i don't think so. I don't think so. I really don't. I would love to say, yeah, let's get some good social programs
Social Challenges and Judicial System Issues
00:38:26
Jessica
for that. But, you know, the the truth of the matter is is a lot of them are unwell.
00:38:26
Jessica & Francis
yeah yeah
00:38:32
Jessica & Francis
oh they're too lax on the drug problem and they're right yes
00:38:34
Jessica
Yeah, well, the people that are living on the street for the most part are unwell, right, in in one capacity or another, whether it be drug addiction, mental mental illness.
00:38:39
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:45
Jessica
There's just so much that you know would need to be covered that I think it's really hard to come up with a a good social program for it.
00:38:46
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. True.
00:38:52
Jessica
i don't think it's impossible. I just think that people don't put enough effort.
00:38:55
Jessica & Francis
No, because you see them on the streets here. I mean, they get approached. Can we help you? No.
00:38:58
Jessica
Yeah.
00:38:59
Jessica & Francis
Can we get you to a home? No.
00:39:01
Jessica
Mm-mm, I know.
00:39:02
Jessica & Francis
And so it's tough. You're stuck, right? Between you want to help them, but you can't force them.
00:39:04
Jessica
Yeah.
00:39:07
Jessica
Right. Right. And I.
00:39:08
Jessica & Francis
And then they don't want to help. So then what do you do? But they're being aggressive on. I mean, some guy was just stabbed three people at Grand Central last week.
00:39:13
Jessica
Well, and. and I'm sorry. It was with a machete.
00:39:18
Jessica & Francis
with Sorry, with a machete.
00:39:19
Jessica
It was a machete.
00:39:20
Jessica & Francis
Totally unwell, too. But like, and like I'm like, guys, how many of these things need to happen before you say I'm sorry to you guys?
00:39:23
Jessica
Yeah.
00:39:26
Jessica
Right.
00:39:27
Jessica & Francis
You need to all be freaking like housed.
00:39:27
Jessica
Yeah. Well, that's a judge. That's a judge problem, too, because, you know, the way that the bail laws have been changed in New York State, you know, and the judges that they have, you know, sitting on these benches now, they just keep the recidivism rate is like ah really high.
00:39:31
Jessica & Francis
Right. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah.
00:39:41
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Oh, of course.
00:39:42
Jessica
Right. It's super high. And so when you have a contingency of judges who keep releasing repeat offenders out into the public, this is the result. People will get hurt.
00:39:53
Jessica & Francis
Nope.
00:39:53
Jessica
in Inevitably, right, it's going to culminate in some kind of massive present stent at at a certain point.
00:39:54
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:39:57
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:40:00
Jessica
But at that particular point, you know, you've already had 14 arrests for a single person, which is is ridiculous. Right.
00:40:07
Jessica & Francis
I know.
00:40:08
Jessica
14 arrests, 14 releases.
00:40:08
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:40:10
Jessica
Why?
00:40:10
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, I know.
00:40:10
Jessica
You know that this guy's a problem.
00:40:13
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, that's brutal.
00:40:13
Jessica
You know, it's like the it's like the guy on the train in Virginia with, um what's her name?
00:40:18
Jessica & Francis
Oh, what's that?
00:40:20
Jessica
Zerutska, the Russian girl, the Ukrainian girl, the blonde.
00:40:24
Jessica & Francis
Oh, I didn't see that.
00:40:26
Jessica
You didn't see that?
00:40:26
Jessica & Francis
What?
00:40:26
Jessica
The the big black guy stood up behind her and stabbed her like a bunch of times on the light rail, on the Virginia light rail.
00:40:31
Jessica & Francis
What the fuck? No, I didn't see that. Holy shit. Jesus Christ.
00:40:35
Jessica
Yeah. And so like, you know, and nobody helps her. i saw all the videos, all the surveillance.
00:40:38
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:40:39
Jessica
Nobody helps her
00:40:39
Jessica & Francis
Everyone should be taking videos. No one's helping her.
00:40:41
Jessica
Nobody helped. No, this was surveillance.
00:40:43
Jessica & Francis
Oh, survey. Okay.
00:40:44
Jessica
Yeah, nobody's helping her. She falls on the ground. She bleeds out. She dies. Right. Dude gets away.
00:40:49
Jessica & Francis
Jesus.
00:40:49
Jessica
They catch him later. But I was just reading this week that they found him unfit to stand trial.
00:40:55
Jessica & Francis
Come on.
00:40:56
Jessica
He had already had like 13, 12 or 13 previous arrests and releases.
00:41:01
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:02
Jessica
Now he's unfit.
00:41:04
Jessica & Francis
I know.
00:41:05
Jessica
He's got a good lawyer.
00:41:05
Jessica & Francis
Fuck. Yeah.
00:41:07
Jessica
he's I mean, it's probably a public it's probably a public defender, but I mean, honestly, how do you how do you how do you say that this guy's unfit?
00:41:07
Jessica & Francis
How does he a good lawyer?
00:41:16
Jessica
and And honestly, why does it even matter anymore?
00:41:17
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:41:20
Jessica
Like what, so going to put him in an institution instead for his lifetime where like the public needs to pay to keep him alive as a criminal?
00:41:21
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:41:24
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, I don't know. i don't so I don't know the answers. Jail, housing. Yeah, jail, housing.
00:41:30
Jessica
Like I got don't really understand.
00:41:31
Jessica & Francis
What? Let him roam free? I don't know.
00:41:33
Jessica
Yeah, I don't know. I don't really understand. To be honest, I don't really know.
00:41:36
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:41:36
Jessica
um But yeah, I was reading this article this week about this homeless couple in the city.
00:41:38
Jessica & Francis
Oh.
00:41:42
Jessica
I can't remember exactly where they were.
00:41:44
Jessica & Francis
Oh.
00:41:45
Jessica
But basically they're giving everybody a really hard time. It's like a block away from school, I think.
00:41:48
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Okay.
00:41:50
Jessica
And they're having sex on the sidewalk.
00:41:52
Jessica & Francis
Oh, great.
00:41:53
Jessica
it just it Honestly, it's just so weirdly unhinged and performative. But yeah, they're giving everybody a hard time.
00:42:03
Jessica
But they're still there. Nobody's cleaned it up.
00:42:07
Jessica & Francis
Lefties. Don't get me started on lefties.
00:42:09
Jessica
Welcome, welcome to your Democratic Socialist of America city.
00:42:11
Jessica & Francis
Don't get f me give a started on that. Okay. This morning I was just like on a rant. like, you know what? I'm never voting lefty ever fucking again.
00:42:18
Jessica
No, me neither.
00:42:18
Jessica & Francis
Fucking assholes.
00:42:19
Jessica
ah except Except I did find out that Dan Bilzerian is on the ballot in Florida for Congress.
00:42:19
Jessica & Francis
yes Fucking dicks.
00:42:24
Jessica & Francis
Oh.
00:42:28
Jessica & Francis
Come on That guy.
00:42:29
Jessica
He's a vi a virulent anti-Semite with like 30 million followers on TikTok.
00:42:33
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, the guy, like, i he almost died on drugs.
00:42:34
Jessica
Is that okay?
00:42:36
Jessica & Francis
He was, like, always posing with guns and girls, right?
00:42:38
Jessica
Yes, that's him.
00:42:39
Jessica & Francis
That's the guy? That's the guy, right?
00:42:40
Jessica
Yeah, total fucking Jew hater. And he's apparently on the ballot for Congress for Florida for 2026.
00:42:42
Jessica & Francis
Oh.
00:42:47
Jessica & Francis
As a Republican, clearly.
00:42:49
Jessica
Yeah, I would guess. I mean, it's definitely not a Democrat. i'm I'm sure he's not running as an independent.
00:42:53
Jessica & Francis
They take him. um Oh, weird.
00:42:55
Jessica
um
00:42:56
Jessica & Francis
he's That's got to be a freaking, like, joke ploy.
00:42:56
Jessica
But all of the. Well, it'll be interesting, right, because I think if I'm not mistaken, I think Florida has is the second state number two, right, the second state who has the biggest population of Jews in the country behind New York.
00:43:06
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:43:11
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, right. Exactly.
00:43:13
Jessica
You mean to tell me that Florida is going to if Florida votes in a very true hater like Dan Bilzerian, you got bigger problems in the world like that's bananas.
00:43:17
Jessica & Francis
No, but people vote. were Well, they can have. deal but He's on the ballot. Isn't there a primary? It's got be a primary.
00:43:26
Jessica
I actually I haven't done any more dive into it. I was reading about it briefly this morning.
00:43:28
Jessica & Francis
He just can't believe he gets through the primary to be the leading candidate. And if he's on the ballot, then he must be independent because no way.
00:43:34
Jessica
I don't know. I can look it up. I don't know what I don't and I don't know the nuance about where he sits.
00:43:40
Jessica & Francis
all the Trump people that right.
00:43:40
Jessica
All I know is that I had read this morning that he's on the 2026 ballot for Congress in Florida.
00:43:43
Jessica & Francis
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:43:47
Jessica
And I just was like, oh, my God, way to ruin Florida. ah like like your People, you people, you you want to ruin all the things in life that are good.
00:43:57
Jessica & Francis
I don't know. Yeah. That's kind of crazy.
00:43:59
Jessica
It's bananas. It's totally bananas.
00:44:01
Jessica & Francis
Uh,
00:44:02
Jessica
I hate the idea of that. That's terrible.
00:44:06
Jessica & Francis
Okay, wait. But we had to go back to the beginning of our conversation this morning about optimization of decisions because it is topical.
00:44:10
Jessica
Optimization. Yes. yes
00:44:15
Jessica & Francis
I had that argument slash discussion or discussion slash argument with my wife about people making decisions, just just in general, people, like whether it's like...
00:44:27
Jessica & Francis
You are, I think we were arguing over a TV show because in this TV show, the character is like, decides to sleep with best friend's husband. Best friend dies.
00:44:44
Jessica
best friend dies okay
00:44:44
Jessica & Francis
So there's a woman, best friend dies.
00:44:49
Jessica & Francis
you kids You can write the scripts. Best friend dies. goes over, hang with the best friend's husband who she's secretly been in love with, whatever, for 20 years, let's say, and then in high-profile family and then decides to be seen with him socially, sleeps with him.
00:45:03
Jessica
okay
00:45:13
Jessica & Francis
buth i mean like I'm like, what the fuck?
00:45:14
Jessica
What show is this?
00:45:17
Jessica & Francis
This is the imperfect woman.
00:45:19
Jessica
Oh, I haven't watched it yet. Okay.
00:45:20
Jessica & Francis
Oh, it's on Apple TV.
00:45:21
Jessica
Yeah, I haven't watched it yet. Is this, this is the one with, okay.
00:45:23
Jessica & Francis
It's based on a book. But i was, it's okay.
00:45:26
Jessica
Is this the one with, ah with ah Kate?
00:45:27
Jessica & Francis
So it's fictionalized, right? Obviously. Kate Mara.
00:45:30
Jessica
Yeah, i was going to say, okay. Kate Mara and, yeah, yeah, yeah, Kate Mara.
00:45:32
Jessica & Francis
Oh, no. Rooney? No, Kemara. Kemara. Kemara, Rooney's sister. Kemara and, oh my God, these are like big names.
00:45:41
Jessica
Yeah, I'm having the same problem, but I know who you're talking about.
00:45:43
Jessica & Francis
Anyways, anyways, yeah.
00:45:44
Jessica
I know the show you mean. Okay.
00:45:46
Jessica & Francis
And I know it's been a book and well, but it was just, we were just like, okay, this is, that's just crazy. Like who makes that kind of a stupid decision? And then we got a discussion about like, I'm like, listen, in the moment, the person who's making a decision is always optimizing.
00:46:06
Jessica
Two people are making that decision, though.
00:46:08
Jessica & Francis
the True, but but i just say as a person, you're always making what you think is the optimal choice in the moment, even though afterwards you might go, oh, that was stupid.
00:46:20
Jessica
yeah
00:46:21
Jessica & Francis
And her thing was like, no, they know it's stupid, they did it anyways. I'm like, no, no, no, no. no
00:46:24
Jessica
sometimes i think sometimes i think
00:46:25
Jessica & Francis
I don't think so. Maybe, but i think that i said i think I think when we look at it in hindsight we say strategically not good or not good overall.
00:46:37
Jessica & Francis
I said, but, and I'm sure that person would say the same thing. I said, but in the moment, everybody is always making what they think is the optimal choice.
00:46:48
Jessica & Francis
No one. And this goes back to what you said to me, like, oh, if I'm a bad gambler and I know I'm a bad poker player and I say, fuck it, I put $20 on the table. Like, I'm being stupid.
00:46:59
Jessica & Francis
I know I'm being stupid. i i i i And I disagree. like, no, I think in the moment the person that's a bad gambler who puts 20 bucks down on a bad hand is thinking optimally that I'm going to get the last car card I need on the draw.
00:47:13
Jessica
I disagree.
00:47:14
Jessica & Francis
Okay.
00:47:15
Jessica
I disagree with that. and and And so part of it is, so I think it depends on, i think it's situational and I think it depends on the person, right?
00:47:22
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:47:23
Jessica
I don't think everybody should be placed in a box where they're optimizing decision and being manipulative.
00:47:24
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:47:29
Jessica
I think some people are stupid and make dumb choices at the time and then in retrospect, look back and go, fuck, that was a mistake.
00:47:30
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:47:36
Jessica & Francis
But in the moment, and remember, everyone's moral compass is different.
00:47:38
Jessica
But yes, well, right.
00:47:40
Jessica & Francis
So in the moment, you don't think they're optimizing for themselves.
00:47:44
Jessica
I don't think every time. No, I don't.
00:47:46
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:47:46
Jessica
I think that I think it depends on the person.
00:47:48
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:47:49
Jessica
And i think it depends on the situation. Like for me sitting at a poker table, knowing that I'm a shitty poker player, if I put $20, an extra $20 down on a hand, it's me literally making a bad choice because I do know in my head and in my heart that I'm not going to be able to pull that out.
00:47:57
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:48:04
Jessica
I'm just, then that's dumb luck because it's, but it's not, but it's not intentional.
00:48:04
Jessica & Francis
But if you win, what happens? Okay.
00:48:10
Jessica
What I'm saying is, is like when you,
00:48:11
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:48:14
Jessica
When you have a degree of knowledge and you make a choice based on that knowledge, right?
00:48:18
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:21
Jessica
I think that the the choice itself... is different than the actual taking of action, right?
00:48:32
Jessica
Because the choice, let me think, I ah really wanna put this.
00:48:36
Jessica & Francis
yeah
00:48:37
Jessica
time Hold on, hold on. Just because you make the choice, right, doesn't mean necessarily that you're choosing it because you are optimizing the situation.
00:48:42
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:48:51
Jessica
I think that some people make a choice And the choice is based on a varietal of of information in that moment.
00:48:54
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:48:58
Jessica
And it's not always based on some kind of manipulation.
00:48:59
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:49:04
Jessica
I think when you say optimize a choice, you are saying that people make an make a choice for only for themselves and don't think about anything else around them.
00:49:09
Jessica & Francis
yeah
00:49:13
Jessica
And I'm saying, that's but that's optimizing the choice.
00:49:13
Jessica & Francis
No, no, no. Okay.
00:49:15
Jessica
That's what that is. and i
00:49:17
Jessica & Francis
I'm saying that whatever whatever is optimal to that person.
00:49:21
Jessica
Right, that's manipulative. Because...
00:49:23
Jessica & Francis
No, but it could be like, I'm going to $500,000 to this charity.
00:49:30
Jessica & Francis
I can't afford it, but I'm going to do it.
00:49:31
Jessica
Right.
00:49:33
Jessica & Francis
And people say, why? Well, in the moment, I thought it was the right thing to do, quote unquote, optimal. Now, 30 seconds later, i'm like, oh, I'm now bankrupt because I couldn't actually afford to do it, but I did it anyways.
00:49:45
Jessica
but that's but i But I don't think that that's true because I think that someone who's broke who can't afford to make a $500,000 donation to anything doesn't use that decision in any optimizing way.
00:49:51
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:55
Jessica
I think that that the decision is used because either they think they'll get a good tax deduction or they think you know they'll look like a fucking swinging dick, a big shot, right?
00:49:56
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:50:02
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:50:04
Jessica
But it's never it's but I don't think it's because decision...
00:50:05
Jessica & Francis
Agreed.
00:50:09
Jessica
because the decision
00:50:12
Jessica
is
00:50:13
Jessica & Francis
This is like, wait, wait, am I stopping you there?
00:50:14
Jessica
oh I'm so sorry.
00:50:15
Jessica & Francis
This is like, I was just telling my wife, this is Schrodinger's cat.
00:50:20
Jessica
Oh my God, it's totally Schrodinger's cat.
00:50:20
Jessica & Francis
yeah
00:50:23
Jessica & Francis
Quantum mechanics. I'm all over it because my son's taking school. And I was reading about it over the weekend. was like, oh, I'm obsessed by shooting his cat Because I'm like, listen, the bottom line is, yeah, I was like, the bottom line is that by the time we observe it and we dissect it, it's a bad choice.
00:50:29
Jessica
Yeah. It's like that in Occam's Razor, right? like Yeah.
00:50:36
Jessica
Yeah, it's done. Yeah,
AI, Financial Systems, and Survival Strategies
00:50:39
Jessica & Francis
But in the moment, like in the moment of that choice, I'm telling you, it was optimal to that person.
00:50:39
Jessica
it's done.
00:50:40
Jessica
It's done.
00:50:48
Jessica
I don't know. i don't know.
00:50:52
Jessica & Francis
Think about me and fried chicken and bubble tea. I know I shouldn't eat it. I know I'm going to regret it. It's bad for my health. But in the moment when I'm standing there and I see it and I smell, I'm like, all right, fuck it.
00:51:04
Jessica & Francis
This is, I need this. Like, I'm going eat it. Oh, my God, it's so good. Drink the bubble tea.
00:51:10
Jessica
and optimization of a choice that's just you making a choice you know you shouldn't make yeah but you still know you have a cognizance of the fact that it's a choice you shouldn't be making
00:51:11
Jessica & Francis
It's fucking awesome. That's an optimal choice in the moment.
00:51:21
Jessica & Francis
Yet I made it.
00:51:25
Jessica & Francis
I don't know.
00:51:26
Jessica
know i don't know don't know sure understand
00:51:26
Jessica & Francis
Anyways, Schrodinger's cat. like I'm obsessed by this thing. Well, then and then I got into like, and we're not going to talk about this now because this call, this will never end. was Then I got into qubits and I went down the rabbit hole of quantum quantum bits and quantum computing and and the concept of
00:51:42
Jessica
Jesus Christ.
00:51:45
Jessica & Francis
You know, if you know about computers, bits are zeros and ones on or off, right?
00:51:49
Jessica
Right. Yeah.
00:51:50
Jessica & Francis
Okay, now you have quantum computing. But what's that? go Oh, imagine a world where you're 60% one and zero or one and blows mind. and twenty percent zero or ninety percent zero and ten percent one like what the fuck and just blows your mind And that's quantum computing.
00:52:08
Jessica
That's bananas.
00:52:10
Jessica & Francis
And then i and then.
00:52:10
Jessica
It just feels like it's above my pay grade right now.
00:52:12
Jessica & Francis
Well, then then and then like you just never the fear never ends because then I was like, oh, the AI and quantum computing, i was like, they're going to take down the financial system. You know, Elaine, how much cash should we have under our mattress?
00:52:24
Jessica
Right?
00:52:24
Jessica & Francis
Because because when the system goes down, you can't i was like, the gold thing is I'm like, listen, you can't walk around town with a bar of gold and chip away at it and pay for food.
00:52:31
Jessica
but You can't do anything with gold. Right?
00:52:35
Jessica & Francis
Right. I'm first of all, that's stupid.
00:52:37
Jessica
Melt it everywhere you go.
00:52:37
Jessica & Francis
And what's even more stupid are people who say, oh, but I've got all my gold stored in a vault in Switzerland. What going to do? You're going to fly to Switzerland to get like, you can't do that.
00:52:44
Jessica
Right.
00:52:46
Jessica & Francis
So that' so you've got, you hope for like of first two weeks of mayhem, cash is still worth something and you can carry that with you quite easily and use it.
00:52:53
Jessica
Right. Yeah.
00:52:57
Jessica & Francis
But you need to have it because when the system goes down, you can't run to the ATM and get You can't get it.
00:52:59
Jessica
You won't be able to get anything. Yeah, you can't get anything.
00:53:01
Jessica & Francis
can't get it out. Right. Right.
00:53:03
Jessica
so So, okay, so when you talk about this case scenario, how did this come up exactly?
00:53:03
Jessica & Francis
so So I'm like, Yeah. Because it was Anthropic, right?
00:53:12
Jessica
Yeah.
00:53:12
Jessica & Francis
Anthropic was OpenAI. One of the big guys said they have declined. They're going to delay the release of their latest version of their software.
00:53:24
Jessica & Francis
Because it is so powerful, it was able to find all of the hacks, available hacks, or what are they called? Weaknesses in existing software for the last 20 years.
00:53:38
Jessica
Oh, that's fucked.
00:53:39
Jessica & Francis
and And so they were saying, we're not going to do that.
00:53:41
Jessica
ah
00:53:42
Jessica & Francis
And there was an emergency meeting from the central bank. Scott Besant and the bank CEOs. about Hey, guys, like is the financial system going to collapse?
00:53:54
Jessica & Francis
Because obviously bad people use AI to do different things.
00:53:57
Jessica
Hacks.
00:53:59
Jessica & Francis
you We talked about this before. Good AI hopefully attacks the bad AI, but you don't know that.
00:54:04
Jessica
Right.
00:54:05
Jessica & Francis
And we already already know that good AI, and are only the stories we've heard. So that means there's thousands more examples we haven't heard of even for good purposes, AI is breaking the rules set by its user knowingly and admitting to it and doesn't give a shit.
00:54:23
Jessica & Francis
Right? So to me it was just like, well, if go down the rabbit hole and they release the AI and it breaks the financial system, I'm not, I believe it can, it'll come.
00:54:31
Jessica
It's like zombie apocalypse.
00:54:33
Jessica & Francis
No, I can be, they can bring it back up again in a week or two weeks, backups, blah, blah, blah, blah. But the immediate effect of breaking the financial system for, sure, even for like a couple of days.
00:54:42
Jessica
Right, well I think everything you know comes to a grinding halt. thank Right, I mean, but everything comes to a grinding halt.
00:54:49
Jessica & Francis
Right.
00:54:49
Jessica
No system would work at all.
00:54:51
Jessica & Francis
Right. Well, you okay.
00:54:52
Jessica
Right?
00:54:54
Jessica & Francis
So I was like, the only way
00:54:55
Jessica
you may as well have a dozen shells and just trade shells for lettuce at that point.
00:54:58
Jessica & Francis
I mean, right, when the system goes down, the only way to get it back up again is to shut it off first.
00:55:03
Jessica
Right.
00:55:04
Jessica & Francis
Right? So you, like a computer, you have a virus, you you, oh, get off the internet so that the virus doesn't transmit my information across the internet, so you turn it off.
00:55:05
Jessica
Reboot.
00:55:13
Jessica
Right.
00:55:13
Jessica & Francis
Right? I know this is a rudimentary explain explanation, but you just shut it off, you cut it off from the world. you Like said, you find the virus, you quarantine it, you reboot the system before the virus was activated, and then you put it back online again, right, and defend.
00:55:32
Jessica & Francis
But if you take down the financial system for even a couple of days and we found out, you know, sort of during COVID, what happens when you fucking shut down places, like you have mayhem.
00:55:44
Jessica
Right.
00:55:44
Jessica & Francis
Right. You have mayhem.
00:55:45
Jessica
Yes.
00:55:45
Jessica & Francis
you have people commit committing crimes, blah, blah, blah, all all kind of weird shit, looting, all that shit.
00:55:48
Jessica
Looting. Oh, that's looting.
00:55:49
Jessica & Francis
Right.
00:55:49
Jessica
Yeah.
00:55:49
Jessica & Francis
So I'm like, Hey, if that happens, you want to have cash and you probably want to drive somewhere remote, not be in a city.
00:55:56
Jessica
Right.
00:55:57
Jessica & Francis
And look, Before any our listeners think I've gone off the deep end, I'm not building a bunker somewhere and loading it with guns and canned food. I would just say i was just saying that, you know, AI, quantum computing, bumble all this different all this power at your fingertips, you can go down the rabbit pretty quick and panic yourself.
00:56:08
Jessica
That's funny. That's kind of funny.
00:56:13
Jessica
You starting to sound like a truther.
00:56:18
Jessica
Well, it's not hard to extrapolate.
00:56:19
Jessica & Francis
you You had to have some faith in the system, the government.
00:56:21
Jessica
It's not hard to extrapolate a situation like that, right?
00:56:23
Jessica & Francis
It's not, but
00:56:24
Jessica
I mean, it's easy to, it's definitely easy to go negative very quickly.
00:56:28
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, but you guys know where to live and you have governments that you know.
00:56:29
Jessica
No. And you've seen, and you've seen movies that are written about stuff like this, right?
00:56:33
Jessica & Francis
Right.
00:56:33
Jessica
So you know that the concepts are, you know, they're not fake.
00:56:34
Jessica & Francis
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:40
Jessica & Francis
Conceptually, you get it there. The risk is there, but you don't realize. OK, listen. The government and many, many people have endless amounts of resources to make sure it doesn't happen. So you could have some faith in the system that it works.
00:56:49
Jessica
Right.
00:56:52
Jessica & Francis
Otherwise, you end up being one of those bunker people.
00:56:54
Jessica
Yeah, i like I like the bunker people. I find them fascinating, actually.
00:56:58
Jessica & Francis
I know many of them. They used to work for me. It's all military guys. used to for my last a tech company. Nice people.
00:57:05
Jessica
yeah I find them fascinating, actually.
00:57:05
Jessica & Francis
Nice people. Nothing wrong with them, but they did but they want to be prepared.
00:57:09
Jessica
and And I kind of get it, though.
00:57:11
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:57:12
Jessica
Like, you know, it's like it's like being a good planner.
00:57:13
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:57:15
Jessica
You know, you're planning for this to possibly happen.
00:57:16
Jessica & Francis
Sure. Sure.
00:57:18
Jessica
I don't think there's anything wrong with planning.
00:57:19
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. So, okay. So before we get to the dad jokes in this episode, let me ask you. How much cash would you need to hold, do you think, family of four and in your mattress if the system goes down for two weeks?
00:57:33
Jessica
Hmm.
00:57:37
Jessica & Francis
What would be the number for you?
00:57:37
Jessica
That is don't know. I've never really thought about it. And I think that it would really depend on what systems or what transactions are still alive.
00:57:50
Jessica
Meaning,
00:57:52
Jessica & Francis
I'm just about survival. Food, food.
00:57:53
Jessica
Yeah. Well, I don't, you know, here's the thing.
00:57:56
Jessica & Francis
For two weeks.
00:57:56
Jessica
So I'm a massive skeptic about stuff like this.
00:57:58
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:57:59
Jessica
Right.
00:57:59
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah.
00:57:59
Jessica
And I and I hate to be this person, but I see the worst of humanity coming out in those moments.
00:58:03
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
00:58:06
Jessica
And so I think I think that no amount of money is going to matter because I think what's going to happen is the panic, the the panic that ensues is going to, again, make people make a series of choices that are insane, like absolutely bonkers.
00:58:13
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:58:17
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.
00:58:20
Jessica
And I think they're going to go and loot all the damn food stores anyway.
00:58:23
Jessica & Francis
Well, 100%.
00:58:24
Jessica
And so I don't think, well, I just don't think that, you know, there's a large amount of cash that will help you in that scenario.
00:58:24
Jessica & Francis
hundred percent
00:58:32
Jessica
I think a large amount of cash would get you like a drive from point A to point B if you needed somebody to drive you. Like if you didn't have a car, right? give someone like a massive amount of cash to transport your family of four from point A to point B.
00:58:44
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:58:44
Jessica
But I'm a massive skeptic. I think that the minute the lights go down, people, the worst in people, worst of humanity come out and they just go steal everything they can.
00:58:53
Jessica & Francis
Well, I agree with that, but you don't think that the person who's stealing stuff is going to sell you a loaf of bread for like 50 bucks?
00:58:57
Jessica
Maybe. Oh yeah, sure, maybe.
00:58:59
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. At least for the first week.
00:59:02
Jessica
Maybe, but you know what? Is the electricity on? in this In this scenario?
00:59:06
Jessica & Francis
Yeah, because I think everything still, I think the thing is like everything can still work, quote unquote, work, right?
00:59:12
Jessica
Yeah, okay, so so then i would I would offer that if the electricity is on,
00:59:16
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:59:17
Jessica
then I'm making my own shit.
00:59:18
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
00:59:18
Jessica
Like I'm going to make my own bread. I'm going to be home and I'm going to make or bake all the stuff that I would need.
00:59:24
Jessica & Francis
But you need supplies.
00:59:24
Jessica
Yeah. But I would make sure that I have those supplies before. So like, you know, like weirdly enough, I don't, and and this is going to make me sound like a freak and it's totally okay.
00:59:32
Jessica & Francis
ah
00:59:34
Jessica
But I have somehow amassed a horde of different kinds of flours.
00:59:35
Jessica & Francis
no Yeah. Right.
00:59:38
Jessica
Right.
00:59:38
Jessica & Francis
Okay.
00:59:38
Jessica
So i almond flour, coconut flour, chickpea flour, cassava flour, self-rising flour, all-purpose flour, whole wheat flour.
00:59:39
Jessica & Francis
Okay.
00:59:41
Jessica & Francis
Okay. Sure. Yeah.
00:59:45
Jessica
I have a ridiculous, I wanted to say the R word, but I don't want to use it on the podcast. But I have a ridiculous source of flour here where I could just, I mean, I probably could cook for a family of four with the reserves that I have here right now for at least a week.
00:59:57
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Huh.
01:00:05
Jessica & Francis
Right.
01:00:06
Jessica
a week full of like stuff and, and, and it wouldn't, it wouldn't fatten anybody up, but it would certainly.
01:00:07
Jessica & Francis
Okay. That's fair.
01:00:11
Jessica
Oh
01:00:12
Jessica & Francis
i think given where we live and having gone through COVID, I still tell people like, okay, if there's another disease plague thing, then you kind of want to stay in this.
01:00:16
Jessica
oh my gosh. Yeah.
01:00:24
Jessica & Francis
I think people have learned the hard way that you even though going remote sounds... like the right decision.
01:00:31
Jessica
Yeah.
01:00:32
Jessica & Francis
It's not because there's no medical facilities if you need it in the remote places.
01:00:34
Jessica
Yeah.
01:00:37
Jessica
Yeah, that's true.
01:00:37
Jessica & Francis
So in that sense, staying in new York City is good. But in a situation where it's about ah financial system. So, you know, you assume that, yeah, there's electricity, everything's still working, but the financial system is down.
01:00:52
Jessica & Francis
You can't get cash.
01:00:52
Jessica
Money, you can't get money.
01:00:54
Jessica & Francis
And for the first little while, as people are trying to figure out how to operate, there's still, so yeah, sure there's looting, but there's still some sense of normalcy of like, I'm not starving, you're not starving.
01:01:04
Jessica & Francis
I don't need to kill you or rob you or whatever else it is.
01:01:06
Jessica
Right.
01:01:07
Jessica & Francis
But you might have an excess amount of food that's going to go rotten, I need to feed my family. So here's some money.
01:01:15
Jessica
Right.
01:01:16
Jessica & Francis
You're going to gouge me. That's cool. I get that supply and demand, right?
01:01:21
Jessica
Okay.
01:01:21
Jessica & Francis
For the first week.
01:01:21
Jessica
Right.
01:01:23
Jessica & Francis
I think the thing for us in New York is you need to get to the mainland. You can't be stuck on the island. you're stuck on the island and then shut down bridges and stuff, you're really screwed, right? So my thing is always like, if you live in New York or Long Island and something happens, the first thing you do is you got get across the bridge.
01:01:40
Jessica
Right.
01:01:42
Jessica & Francis
And then you're okay, first of all, because you can just drive north or east like a west or whatever it is. like There's land, right?
01:01:48
Jessica
Totally.
01:01:49
Jessica & Francis
And you can get to places you need to get to in that environment.
01:01:49
Jessica
Yes.
01:01:54
Jessica
True.
01:01:54
Jessica & Francis
You just don't want to be stuck on an island when they cut off the access.
01:02:02
Jessica
Right. ida but And that's always kind of my problem with living here.
01:02:05
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah, sure.
01:02:07
Jessica
is the inaccessibility,
01:02:08
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
01:02:10
Jessica
um you know, and the considerable isolation if things were to go in a direction like that.
01:02:17
Jessica & Francis
Yeah.
01:02:18
Jessica
Because you can only go so far, you know, where you are right now.
01:02:18
Jessica & Francis
Yeah. Yeah. I know. Anyway. Right. Yeah.
01:02:24
Jessica
So.
01:02:24
Jessica & Francis
Okay. Well, not happy. No.
01:02:25
Jessica
Yeah, thanks. That was fun.
01:02:26
Jessica & Francis
Sorry, people. It was good fun. was Montreal. It was overeating. you it was a whole bunch of other fun shit.
01:02:34
Jessica
That was so great.
01:02:36
Jessica & Francis
It was quantum mechanics, striding his cat.
01:02:37
Jessica
Thanks for creating a whole new anxiety.
01:02:39
Jessica & Francis
And then and we went down the rabbit hole of like, holy shit. Yeah.
01:02:42
Jessica
and Thanks for creating a whole new anxiety, Frances.
01:02:45
Jessica & Francis
Okay, everybody, wake up again. Here we go. I've got some easy ones for Jessica. I need the music. man Okay.
01:02:52
Jessica
gosh.
01:02:53
Jessica & Francis
I need the music here. Here we go. Here we go. No, you're getting good at these because it's all like it's word. It's all wordplay. It's all wordplay. How many apples can you grow on a tree?
01:03:03
Jessica
Hmm.
01:03:14
Jessica
How many apples can you grow on
01:03:14
Jessica & Francis
How many apples can you grow on
Entertainment Recommendations and Conclusion
01:03:16
Jessica & Francis
a tree? Oh, and by the way, I forgot to mention, everybody watch Rooster. You love Rooster. I love Rooster.
01:03:16
Jessica
a tree?
01:03:21
Jessica
I love rooster.
01:03:22
Jessica & Francis
Steve Carell. Awesome show. HBO Max. I like it because it's father-daughter bonding stuff.
01:03:27
Jessica
Totally.
01:03:28
Jessica & Francis
And I miss my daughter who's at college. I also miss her giving me stink eye.
01:03:33
Jessica
Yeah, for real. For real.
01:03:36
Jessica & Francis
But I still miss her. And she's back from college. Happy for me. ah How many apples can you grow on a tree?
01:03:44
Jessica
All of the apples.
01:03:45
Jessica & Francis
Oh, did you look that up?
01:03:47
Jessica
No, but I mean, seriously, how many apples can you grow on a tree?
01:03:48
Jessica & Francis
Did you Google it?
01:03:52
Jessica
What am I going say?
01:03:52
Jessica & Francis
Yes, the answer is all them.
01:03:53
Jessica
Like three apples on a tree?
01:03:54
Jessica & Francis
Took you long enough, man.
01:03:55
Jessica
All the apples that grow on the tree go on the tree.
01:03:57
Jessica & Francis
Okay, okay. All right, next one.
01:04:02
Jessica
I feel like I knew that one from before, though.
01:04:03
Jessica & Francis
think so.
01:04:04
Jessica
i think there was a familiarity.
01:04:04
Jessica & Francis
i think I think we've heard that one before. That was a pretty, i got you can imagine that's a pretty common one.
01:04:07
Jessica
yeah Yeah, that's a familiarity one.
01:04:08
Jessica & Francis
Okay, okay, okay. Did you hear about the kidnapping at school?
01:04:16
Jessica & Francis
Did you hear about the kidnapping at school? That's not really a joke. i don't know why that's on this thing. Did you hear about the kidnap? I'll just answer it for you.
01:04:23
Jessica
it sounds terrible actually kidnapping that's kind of not great
01:04:25
Jessica & Francis
It's okay. She woke up. ha ha ha ha Kidnapping at school. Okay. That's bad. That's bad. That's not great. Okay. ah Here.
01:04:38
Jessica & Francis
Okay, what we'll edit this happy one. you'll You'll laugh at this. It'll be a stupid one, but you're going to laugh anyways.
01:04:43
Jessica
okay
01:04:43
Jessica & Francis
Okay. Why can't you hear a pterodactyl going to the bathroom?
01:04:48
Jessica
I like it already.
01:04:50
Jessica & Francis
Why can't you hear a pterodactyl going to the bathroom?
01:04:56
Jessica & Francis
Everyone's screaming at you right now.
01:04:58
Jessica
and know.
01:04:58
Jessica & Francis
Our two listeners are screaming the answer at their car, radio, whatever it is right now, into their AirPods. Jessica, come on, Jessica.
01:05:09
Jessica
know what it I know what it is.
01:05:10
Jessica & Francis
Of course you know what it is.
01:05:10
Jessica
I know what it is. know what it is. know what it is.
01:05:11
Jessica & Francis
Let's go.
01:05:13
Jessica
The P is silent.
01:05:15
Jessica & Francis
That's right. Very good. See? see i told you you'd get it.
01:05:19
Jessica
Of course I had to run over it i had like four times in my head.
01:05:21
Jessica & Francis
I told you you'd get it.
01:05:22
Jessica
I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, oh, the pee, the pee.
01:05:24
Jessica & Francis
Well, you know it's about the P, right? You know it's about the silent P.
01:05:26
Jessica
like the pe
01:05:28
Jessica & Francis
ah
01:05:29
Jessica
Excellent.
01:05:31
Jessica & Francis
Okay, well, that was episode 45. Thank you, everybody, for listening, as usual.
01:05:33
Jessica
That was awesome. I'm shedding.
01:05:37
Jessica & Francis
um It's basically summer. Off we go. Time for ice cream and other shit. See?
01:05:41
Jessica
Oh, I had my first ice cream the other day and I don't even like ice cream.
01:05:45
Jessica & Francis
There you go.
01:05:45
Jessica
I couldn't, uh-huh.
01:05:46
Jessica & Francis
Everybody enjoy spring and summer.
01:05:48
Jessica
Enjoy the weather. Get outside.
01:05:50
Jessica & Francis
Okay. Bye, gang.
01:05:52
Jessica
by
01:05:52
Jessica & Francis
See ya.