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71% Fear AI — Here’s 3 Ways People Are Overcoming It
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In this AI marketing podcast episode, Dan Sanchez and his co-host Travis Sanchez dive deep into the emotional and practical landscape of job security in the age of AI. While 71% of Americans report being worried about AI taking over jobs, Dan and Travis explore why their audience of marketers feels largely confident instead. They dissect the stats, the mindset shifts, and the hands-on practices that separate the worried majority from the optimistic few.
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Resources Mentioned
- Reuters AI Job Loss Poll - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/americans-fear-ai-permanently-displacing-workers-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2025-08-19/
- Microsoft AI Job Risk Report - https://arxiv.org/pdf/2507.07935
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Timestamps
- 00:00 - 71% of Americans are scared AI will take their job
- 01:30 - Why boomers and Gen Z might feel differently about AI
- 03:00 - What’s really fueling the fear: uncertainty and media hype
- 04:50 - Microsoft’s list of most at-risk jobs (marketers, beware)
- 07:00 - The surprising flip in Dan's LinkedIn poll
- 09:00 - The mindset that brings confidence in the age of AI
- 13:00 - The 3 ways to stay confident: mindset, news vetting, experimentation
- 18:00 - How daily life use of AI builds career confidence
- 23:00 - Why mastering AI in your existing tools is the real unlock
- 24:00 - Creating AI-animated kids books with Google Gemini and Grok
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Transcript
Fear and Optimism about AI's Impact on Jobs
00:00:01
Travis
Thank you.
00:00:01
Dan Sanchez
71% of Americans are afraid that AI is going to take their job. And it's not exactly a mystery why. We've been bombarded by the news outlets with doom predictions for years now. Ever since ChatGPT came out, we've been talking about job loss, job loss, job loss. And so it's no wonder why people are nervous.
00:00:20
Dan Sanchez
Yet, I want to talk about something in this podcast that show that a lot of people, a minority of people, a group of select people are actually standing in defiance of that and they're not worried at all.
00:00:31
Dan Sanchez
So in this episode, I want to cover three different reasons why bunch of people are having confidence despite all the headlines and what they're doing about it to actually feel good about the future.
00:00:42
Dan Sanchez
So let's break it down.
Introduction to 'Bot Bros' Segment
00:00:44
Dan Sanchez
In this episode of the AI Driven Marketer, You were talking to Dan Sanchez, myself, and Travis Sanchez, my co-host.
00:00:51
Travis
Come on. Happy to be here.
00:00:53
Dan Sanchez
This is the Bot Bros segment where we uncover the help from the hype in order to help marketers learn more about what's actually useful out there in the AI news cycles.
00:00:53
Travis
Hmm.
00:01:03
Dan Sanchez
So, Trav, let's break it down today. that That report came from Reuters out of a poll of about 4,000, 5,000 people. I went and checked and did the due diligence to make sure it was an actual stat because you know how many stats are made up. And it was true. Like,
00:01:17
Dan Sanchez
This a reputable news source, polled thousands of people, and 71% of Americans said they were worried about AI taking a lot of jobs in the future.
Generational Attitudes towards AI
00:01:28
Dan Sanchez
I want to ask you, have you seen that nervousness around people you know?
00:01:28
Travis
Wow.
00:01:33
Travis
I haven't seen a nervousness, but I've definitely seen a defiance from blue collar workers, most of all, who I don't know if that defiance be is a nervousness that AI will start taking their jobs if I don't know, different skilled robots are actually able to outperform those labor tasks. But
00:01:57
Travis
My guess is the people that they were calling, a lot of them were in their golden years, their better quarter of life. And yeah,
00:02:08
Dan Sanchez
Because you're gonna get ripped on in the comments for saying boomer one more time.
00:02:09
Travis
yeah if I say boomers again, in their golden years. And i as I feel about how Gen Z's language or Gen y is so complicated and changing so quickly, and I can't keep up with all of the vocabulary it's the same way that i think people feel about ai it's like man they just figured out the internet they just figured out social media i don't want to figure out a new technology and it is quite advanced so it would make some people nervous
AI's Impact on Job Market and Society
00:02:40
Dan Sanchez
i don't know. I think Gen Z is particularly a fairly anxious generation. So I could see them being nervous about it, especially if you're in college right now and worried about getting job.
00:02:48
Travis
oh yeah okay
00:02:49
Dan Sanchez
Lots of news reports about young grads not being able to get jobs because of all the AI automation and stuff going on. So don't know. i I'm in a bubble, so it's hard for me to tell.
00:02:59
Dan Sanchez
When I talk to people outside of my bubble, there's kind of a underlying anxiety. I don't know if they're anxious about jobs, but there's an anxiety about, like, I don't know what's going on. Something big's going on.
00:03:10
Travis
Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:11
Dan Sanchez
It seems kind of dark, but I don't really think about it that often. But when I do, I can tell something's going on, and I'm not in it.
00:03:18
Travis
I'm, so I'm surprised it's so high.
00:03:18
Dan Sanchez
71%.
00:03:19
Travis
I mean, what was it? 71%?
00:03:22
Dan Sanchez
seventy one percent
00:03:22
Travis
What was it? That that's yeah, that's, that's really high. Did you break down? Cause I just opened the report to see they voted on four different areas of where they think AI is going to be.
00:03:37
Travis
have concerns about there's like, political chaos. Too many people will lose jobs replacement. Oh, I see you put, you pulled a job one, but then there's other things like increased electricity consumption replacement for in-person relationships.
00:03:50
Travis
I know you're sticking to the job loss one, but I thought that the relationship one was also pretty high. 66%, which maybe that's true. We've seen a lot of buzz ah around people getting emotionally attached.
00:04:02
Dan Sanchez
I am, i am more, I'm personally more concerned about relationship issues caused by AI than I am about job loss when it comes to AI.
00:04:09
Travis
honest Yeah. Okay. That's fair.
00:04:13
Dan Sanchez
I, I've already started to see some of the relational issues. That's a whole nother news topic we could jump into because some new things have come up around that.
00:04:18
Travis
Yep.
00:04:21
Dan Sanchez
Can I tell you, I've even thought about starting another podcast about AI called artificial attraction, just to talk about that topic.
00:04:27
Travis
Wow.
00:04:28
Dan Sanchez
But I'm like, no, I don't have enough time for another podcast. But I'd really like to just talk about psychology, relationships, and AI and how it's impacting it.
00:04:34
Travis
Right. Wow.
00:04:36
Dan Sanchez
But... Somebody needs to start that show. I will be your first sub. That would be really fun. Provided you're taking the the line that this is bad for us, not good for us. If you take the, this is good for us, then I'm unsubscribed.
00:04:50
Dan Sanchez
I won't even subscribe to that show. But moving on in Microsoft release some of the news that's causing people to be nervous. They released this like 40 most at risk jobs.
00:05:01
Travis
Yikes.
00:05:01
Dan Sanchez
I saw this going viral on and,
00:05:03
Travis
Yikes.
00:05:03
Dan Sanchez
And of course, in the mix of it, like of this if they of these 40 occupations that are most at risk, we have proofreaders and copy marketers, as in copywriters.
00:05:15
Travis
Oh.
00:05:17
Dan Sanchez
And that's not really like news. If you're in marketing and you you're a copywriter and you didn't know AI was coming for you, like, Like, where have you been? Right. So like, obviously people who write for a living, especially copywriting and like AI has been doing a lot of that work for a lot of people now.
00:05:33
Travis
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
00:05:34
Dan Sanchez
But web developers are in there. Data scientists like there's a bunch of different things in here that are you're like, OK, well, public relations specialist. That's another job title in there. business teachers, post-secondary. So it's kind of like a lot of these things fall or hit around marketing or directly impact marketing um in a way, like writers and authors, which you know covers some marketers.
00:05:58
Dan Sanchez
then, of course, I think the one that's kind of ancillary next to it is sales representative marketing. or is sales representatives of service or essentially service reps.
00:06:07
Travis
Right.
00:06:08
Dan Sanchez
Makes a lot of sense. I mean, I even just the last episode I did was about how you can replace your frontline sales reps with for inbound calls with an AI agent. Don't need them anymore. Don't need the ah ah clerk answering the phone call for a chiropractor anymore because AI can take in, book the meeting, answer questions.
00:06:23
Dan Sanchez
follow up and do all kinds of things now. Like now, that's, it's not future tech, it's now tech. So it kind of makes sense, but will that actually lead to more job loss?
00:06:34
Dan Sanchez
I don't know.
00:06:35
Travis
All right. So the positive spin on this is how many times I've heard other individuals talk about how many jobs AI will actually create.
AI Tools and Job Efficiency
00:06:45
Travis
Just like people thought when the internet was coming out, there would be an incredible loss of jobs.
00:06:49
Travis
But how do we know? we Most of us know that it actually created more jobs. It didn't remove away work hours. It just increased work hours because the productivity could go up.
00:06:58
Dan Sanchez
Yep. New jobs.
00:06:59
Travis
So Though there's a list of jobs that might be lost, there's also going to be an increase.
00:07:05
Dan Sanchez
new jobs
00:07:06
Travis
However, I also heard a spin that was like, more people will not understand how to create prompts to get AI to do what it needs to do. Like, it will be more difficult understanding how to be proficient enough at prompting to do efficient work to actually be paid using AI. And I was like, that's a hot take.
00:07:28
Dan Sanchez
Man, who said it?
00:07:29
Travis
And you want to know who said it?
00:07:32
Travis
I have no idea. I was scrolling on social media.
00:07:36
Dan Sanchez
Thanks, bro, for leading me on. So before we jump to the next segment of the poll, which has the shocking thing that I did a poll and asked my audience, you guys, if you were worried about AI replacing your job, and I think you'll be be shocked by the the turnaround of it.
00:07:52
Dan Sanchez
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00:08:05
Dan Sanchez
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00:08:19
Dan Sanchez
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00:08:34
Dan Sanchez
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00:08:45
Travis
Dang.
00:08:45
Dan Sanchez
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00:08:56
Dan Sanchez
And tell me about it later. Did you try it? Did you not? did you like Did you not like it? Did you like it? Let me know. So moving on to the poll, I asked people and I just put out, how worried are you about AI replacing your job?
00:09:07
Dan Sanchez
And it flipped from the 71% that they were worried. my The audience on LinkedIn said, 54% said, not worried.
00:09:17
Dan Sanchez
21% said a little worried. 15% said somewhat worried. And 10% said very worried. So it's almost like a total flip-flop. And actually aligns. When I talk to a bunch of you, I just put out my calendar a few months ago and I met with a bunch of you and like face-to-face here over over Zoom calls.
00:09:34
Dan Sanchez
And ah that's kind of aligns with what people said. Almost everyone I talked to, I asked the question, like, how do you feel about the future of AI? And they're like, oh, I'm so excited. They were is mostly optimistic. Some of them were optimistic with just a little bit of nervousness.
00:09:47
Dan Sanchez
So it kind of lines up with the poll. That's how people feel. And it got me to wondering why why such a stark contrast. So Trav, where are you at? are you Are you like optimism plus a little nervousness? Like, or are you 50-50? Where are you at?
00:10:01
Travis
Okay, so I'm in the place of... I feel confident in my skill skills as a manager, as a connector, as a relational leader, which I just... I have a hard time believing AI will take that away because... oh man.
00:10:20
Travis
this is this is This is where it gets my mind a little bit crazy, and I'm a verbal processor. So when I start talking about... using AI for my own emotional processing with some hard things with my spouse, with some past coworkers.
00:10:35
Travis
And it makes me emotionally feel seen.
00:10:35
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:10:38
Travis
I'm not attaching emotions to it specifically, but it's helped me process emotions. I'm like, what step away are we from having managers that are AI that actually encourage are clear.
00:10:50
Travis
The tasks are followed up with there's accountability. And the person who gets encouragement from an AI person, I don't know if it's a screen, if it's a robot, whatever actually is like, man, I love reporting to this guy.
00:11:03
Travis
It makes me feel. So then i don't know. It makes me question my, my I'm safe because I'm good with people thought, you know what mean?
00:11:12
Dan Sanchez
i think I think you are safe because there's a big difference. Even though AI is can be extremely empathetic or it can at least ah fake empathy better than a lot of humans do, for sure.
00:11:24
Dan Sanchez
There's just something different about humans because humans have core values.
00:11:30
Travis
right okay but how many humans don't have core values either
00:11:31
Dan Sanchez
AI does not. AI has whatever core values you feed it at the time.
00:11:38
Dan Sanchez
Yeah, so but that's that's not there that's their problem. That's not your problem. You have a set of values that people can trust when things get hard that won't change. That makes a big difference.
00:11:49
Travis
yeah i'm just thinking about when ai
Adapting to AI: Mindset and Strategies
00:11:52
Travis
starts getting rights and they're allowed to like own property and
00:11:58
Travis
You roll your eyes.
00:11:58
Dan Sanchez
God forbid.
00:12:00
Travis
You roll your eyes.
00:12:00
Dan Sanchez
Oh, gosh.
00:12:01
Travis
I've seen too many movies.
00:12:02
Dan Sanchez
Oh, bro, that's why I did the whole episode with Kenny Ortiz to talk about some of these issues from a theological perspective, which if you haven't listened to that episode, I'll put it in the show notes.
00:12:07
Travis
Yeah.
00:12:11
Dan Sanchez
But I talked about like the theology of dealing with some of these AI topics.
00:12:13
Travis
Just totally.
00:12:14
Dan Sanchez
I will probably have more episodes like that in the future because AI, as it gets smarter, it's going to be a whole can of worms and weird philosophical theological issues we'll to deal with.
00:12:20
Travis
just just from and oh Just from an ethical perspective and people are fighting for AI rights, you know.
00:12:24
Dan Sanchez
Yeah, 100%. hundred percent
00:12:28
Travis
Anyways, um um I'm not too nervous in the short come. i I'm more excited. I have about 90% excitement, 10% nervousness.
00:12:36
Dan Sanchez
Okay.
00:12:36
Travis
So I would probably put myself in the not worried category because I'm so filled with positivity of what the next five, 10 years are going to look like.
00:12:47
Dan Sanchez
So let's talk about why people have confidence. Like why, why does the audience that is listening to this show and following me on LinkedIn, not worried at all, or just, or just a little bit worried?
00:12:58
Travis
Cause they're early adapters. They're rock stars. They've got everything going for them. Growth mindset up into the right. You know what I mean?
00:13:07
Dan Sanchez
Probably. i this is hypothetical. I didn't actually ask the audience, a though. There's some comments and some talk about why. this is my hypothesis about why the audience, you guys listening now, are less likely to put worried and more likely to put not worried or just maybe a little bit nervous.
00:13:25
Dan Sanchez
And I think mostly it's just big part of it's just a different mindset.
00:13:31
Travis
Right.
00:13:31
Dan Sanchez
You can break it down. the The part that makes me just a little bit nervous is just the uncertainty of the future. We don't know. If there's going to be a lot of job loss or it's going to be job explosion, it's probably be somewhere in between.
00:13:43
Dan Sanchez
We don't know, but that uncertainty always makes people learn are a little nervous. And the thing that I think through all over and over again, that makes, gives me a lot of confidence. I'm like, okay, well, let's, let's play this out. Both scenarios. so If we lose a lot of jobs, let's say like great depression level, 20%, 30%. Well, it's 30% of people still have a job.
00:14:01
Dan Sanchez
Can I be good enough that I'm part of that 70%? Heck yeah, I'm go to work my butt off and I can be better than 30% of people. Can you? i don't know. At most people, if you ask if you ask people if they're smarter then they than the average person, so they're over the 50%, it's like almost everybody thinks they're smarter than the average person, which statistically is impossible, right?
00:14:23
Travis
Yes, and most people think that they could kill a lion with their bare hands. So, I mean...
00:14:30
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:14:30
Travis
to
00:14:30
Dan Sanchez
Yeah. Yeah. So the question is, are you putting in the work and doing the due diligence to learn and stay on top of this stuff so that you can be better than that, than the 30 bottom percent?
00:14:41
Travis
Right.
00:14:42
Dan Sanchez
That's what I'm trying to do. It's even why I have this show is to master AI. So I can, if, if worst case scenario, we have that situation, I make it in the top 70%, right?
00:14:51
Travis
Right.
00:14:52
Dan Sanchez
But even, even that's, that's just hypothetical. Maybe it's not, maybe it's the total opposite way. And we end up with way more jobs than, If you're learning AI and taking advantage of it now and working hard for the worst case scenario, then you'll be way more better set up for the the best case scenario.
00:15:05
Travis
Right. Yep.
00:15:05
Dan Sanchez
So having an attitude of like, yeah, it's go to work out for me.
00:15:05
Travis
good. Mm-hmm.
00:15:08
Dan Sanchez
i don't know if it's gonna work out for everybody, but I'm to work my butt off so that at least I can control a little bit of my own destiny. I can at least control how I react to the situation, which whichever road we go down, I'll be ready.
00:15:14
Travis
no
00:15:20
Dan Sanchez
And I think that's just having a growth mindset and just being ready for whatever scenario throws at us and be like, let's go either way.
00:15:23
Travis
good
00:15:28
Dan Sanchez
But that's not it. I think that's a big part of why people are optimistic is they're just having that kind of a mindset into it. But I think there's other things in it. I think other people are also just doing a good job of staying on top of this AI stuff. So that's the second thing. I think you have to get good at vetting through the news. And I think there's three ways to do that.
00:15:47
Dan Sanchez
I think the thing I like to do is just establish a baseline of what AI can do. How are you using it? What can it do? What can it do? Kind of establish, get comfortable with it, establish that baseline of what you know it's capable of, test things, and then have a balanced mindset of being curious and highly skeptical.
00:15:53
Travis
Right. Right.
00:16:05
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:16:06
Travis
Yeah.
00:16:06
Dan Sanchez
you can't be, both you can't be one or the other.
00:16:06
Travis
Right.
00:16:08
Dan Sanchez
It has to be both. and anytime you hear new news, like when Microsoft released that report, that doesn't mean people are losing their jobs and like crazy right now.
00:16:16
Travis
Right.
00:16:18
Dan Sanchez
That's just a hypothesis.
00:16:18
Travis
Right.
00:16:19
Dan Sanchez
That's just the, well, based on these factors, we rank stacked a thousand jobs and these ones came up the top of the list.
00:16:19
Travis
you
00:16:24
Dan Sanchez
Well, doesn't mean that they're going to lose their jobs. That's just, that's just a guess based on a silly report.
00:16:30
Travis
And because our our audience is in the top or echelon of intelligence, people know that fear sells.
00:16:38
Travis
We've seen it across time and history that if you can get them to fear, you can start controlling their minds and then their wallets, all that stuff.
00:16:38
Dan Sanchez
Yep.
00:16:45
Travis
I mean, we've seen it over and over again. So if you can have that skeptical view of the news constantly, i mean, everyone knows it.
00:16:53
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:16:53
Travis
In the news causes like more depression than just going for a walk because positive stories people don't want to know about. They want to hear about the scandal, the worry, the doubt, the the destruction.
00:17:04
Dan Sanchez
The masses want to hear the hard stuff.
00:17:06
Travis
They want to hear about the negative stuff, which feels entertaining.
00:17:10
Dan Sanchez
our brains are triggered to react to that.
00:17:11
Travis
I know. So you just have to know. Yeah. Being skeptical is a really great, a great way to think about it when you hear about AI taking over jobs and things.
00:17:21
Dan Sanchez
But be curious, lean into it, watch it.
00:17:22
Travis
Oh yeah, for sure.
00:17:24
Dan Sanchez
But don't be surprised when Microsoft and Salesforce are putting out these crazy PR pieces.
Navigating AI News and Building Expertise
00:17:29
Dan Sanchez
Salesforce is like, oh, we're automating 30% of our jobs now. I'm like, yeah, and you also want to sell a lot more Salesforce subscriptions to make people think they can do it too.
00:17:38
Dan Sanchez
I don't, 30% of their jobs, stupid.
00:17:38
Travis
Yeah.
00:17:40
Dan Sanchez
I'm But, and the last one around having just a good, being good at vetting the news as it comes in since there's so much hype is to find good sources people you trust and then just take it from them don't you don't have to be the front line i'm not even the front line i'm like a second tier person i have a few sources i go to to help me think through it like matt wolf and the artificial intelligence podcast uh with paul reitzer and mike kaput
00:17:54
Travis
Right.
00:18:10
Dan Sanchez
Those are kind of like my two main sources. I have a few other ones that I get to. I i consider myself second tier. I'm the one who comes in, takes the leading headlines, and then curates it down and experiments and throws out, like I'm a week or two behind the headline sometimes because I'm trying to distill it down and make it useful just for marketers and that's it.
00:18:19
Travis
It's
00:18:28
Dan Sanchez
find a few trusted sources. The two shows I just mentioned, one's a YouTube channel, one's a podcast, but this one, this show could be is one for many of you. find a few trusted sources, lean into what they say.
00:18:39
Dan Sanchez
And then the last thing I think people are doing is they're just spending time with AI.
00:18:39
Travis
good
00:18:43
Dan Sanchez
So when they see misleading headlines, they're like, yeah, well, that can't, that's crap because I'm in AI regularly and it's not even close to what my experience is.
00:18:52
Travis
Uh-huh. ahha
00:18:54
Dan Sanchez
if you're just experimenting all the time, I highly recommend experimenting with like daily life problems on top of work problems. I don't know why, but it makes me feel so much more confident because there's so many different areas of life that it can touch. And as you build more familiarity with all these different ways to use it, it like helps with work.
00:19:11
Dan Sanchez
and don't know. Have you found that too?
00:19:13
Travis
I have used it for my personal life just as much as work life. I mean, it's just it's just another tool extension. It's the Swiss army ah ah knife of my phone that I need help with something.
00:19:28
Travis
I'm pulling it out and asking questions. I mean, I've used it recently to look up tax for different loans because I'm into real estate. So I want to buy another house. There's something called a DSCR loan where you don't have to prove your income.
00:19:41
Travis
And I needed the details on it. And instantly it's pulling it up for me. I don't have to watch YouTube videos. don't have to figure things out. It's like, okay, this is this is what I needed to know. So I constantly use it in my daily life. And that just makes me feel, yeah, more confident.
00:19:57
Dan Sanchez
It's like having an expert in every field imaginable.
00:20:00
Travis
Uh-huh.
00:20:00
Dan Sanchez
You can call or text 24-7-365. keep finding new old areas of my life that I was like, oh, I always wanted to do X, but I gave up on it because I couldn't afford someone to help me with it.
00:20:12
Travis
Right. Right.
00:20:13
Dan Sanchez
Like personal trainer. ah ah ah Personal trainers cost a lot of money to help you tailor your workouts for your exact schedule, your goals, your blah, blah, blah.
00:20:20
Travis
Yeah.
00:20:21
Dan Sanchez
You can watch YouTube videos, but you have to watch a freaking ton of them in order to find all the little tiny nuances that fit your situation.
00:20:24
Travis
Yes.
00:20:28
Travis
and We get to skip all those intros. Hey, welcome back to another episode. My name's JonJonBooBoo. I'm going to be talking about this thing today. If you looked at my last episode, I'm like, oh my God, just stop with the intro.
00:20:38
Dan Sanchez
God, I'm going to have to watch 20 videos just to get a small piece of the puzzle that I can then take forward.
00:20:43
Travis
Yes.
00:20:45
Dan Sanchez
And I'm like, and that and I'm a learner, so I would do it, but I didn't do it for everything.
00:20:47
Travis
Yeah, of course. It was the best resource at the time.
00:20:48
Dan Sanchez
I do it for marketing.
00:20:50
Travis
i mean, sometimes you still need, I still need YouTube sometimes to walk me through a visual process of how to, yeah, change the catalytic converter on an 04 mini.
00:20:52
Dan Sanchez
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's a visual thing. You need someone to show you doing the thing. Right.
00:20:59
Travis
It's like, okay, listen, ah ah you know what I'm sad we haven't talked about in here, which maybe this will be another episode, is how we have liked or disliked ChatGPT5 compared to all the other models that we'd have to select through.
00:21:12
Travis
i don't know. it's just become a more fluid experience just using ChadGBT5, but that's...
00:21:20
Dan Sanchez
I'm so glad you said that because it's pretty much what I said. and go go You probably haven't listened to last week's episode.
00:21:25
Travis
No, I didn't.
00:21:25
Dan Sanchez
I had to leave you out because I had to record it so early in the morning before a full day video shoot.
00:21:29
Travis
Oh, you already talked about it.
00:21:31
Dan Sanchez
But I talked about it. Well, go watch my hot take and we'll we'll put that into next week's segment about ChatGPT5.
00:21:35
Travis
Great, great.
00:21:38
Dan Sanchez
I love ChatGPT5. A lot of the world hates ChatGPT5 and all you people, except for the people that are experiencing true bugs. I get it. That sucks. But for everybody else, I'm like, sorry, not sorry. It's better.
00:21:50
Travis
It is better. I've also experienced some bugs that are like so annoying to me and I, I'm like, yeah.
00:21:53
Dan Sanchez
Yeah. Yeah. But I'm, I'm confident they'll smooth those out. It'll be great.
00:21:56
Travis
Yeah.
00:21:57
Dan Sanchez
The bot, the switcher will get better over time. I'm like, it's going to be amazing. It needed to happen. And then, so experiment a lot with chat GPT specifically ah ah across your life.
00:22:09
Dan Sanchez
You'll become more comfortable with it.
00:22:09
Travis
Yeah.
00:22:10
Dan Sanchez
You'll be less scared of it. The more you use it, leverage it, kind of push it to the limits, throw curve balls at it to see what happens.
00:22:12
Travis
Yeah.
00:22:17
Dan Sanchez
Don't always trust it. But in general, it's, it's pretty good. Trust,
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00:22:20
Travis
Right. Yep.
00:22:20
Dan Sanchez
trust,
00:22:21
Dan Sanchez
have more experiences with it. You will become more comfortable with it and gain a level of expertise just from sheer time experimenting with it.
00:22:27
Travis
ye
00:22:28
Dan Sanchez
And then learn how to build custom GPTs. I'll say it over and over. This is the drum I'm beating and will continue beating. Just go search my show for any title of custom GPTs and watch it because it's like the best thing you can do to level up from there.
00:22:42
Dan Sanchez
And the last piece of advice I have for you to master AIs, whatever tool you currently use a lot, Whatever, they they're all building AI parts of those tools.
00:22:52
Travis
Right.
00:22:52
Dan Sanchez
Master the AI parts of it.
00:22:54
Dan Sanchez
Are you spending a lot of time in HubSpot?
00:22:54
Travis
Right.
00:22:56
Dan Sanchez
Great. Master every AI component that you have access to. Are you spending a lot of time in Asana? Master every AI component built into These tools are AI rich now.
00:23:04
Travis
Right. right
00:23:05
Dan Sanchez
Like, what tool are you using? What AI features are they adding? Become the master of that tool. So just between experimenting broadly, building custom GPTs, and mastering the little AI tools built under whatever tools you have, you are freaking golden.
00:23:11
Travis
I
00:23:19
Dan Sanchez
Okay? It's not that hard. You can do it.
00:23:21
Travis
love that.
00:23:21
Dan Sanchez
Just take the time. And last thing to wrap up this episode, I found this awesome post. It was this a viral post on X. it was essentially like this wonderful little thing where people are essentially making these multimedia kids books, or at least now that you can build that. And i i've I've published a few kids books, so I'm really excited about this.
00:23:40
Dan Sanchez
But they're like, Google Gemini actually has the ability, ah ah you can prompt it to build me a storybook about any topic, and it'll write you, it'll illustrate it on the left side, write the thing. write the stuff on the right side. And people are taking the illustrations, running it through Grok video, which is free right now.
00:23:55
Dan Sanchez
And then illustrating the whole thing and then putting them back into it. So you essentially can make these like, like four second animated children's books.
00:24:00
Travis
Video storybooks.
00:24:03
Dan Sanchez
And they are fricking amazing. You're like, whoa that's really cool that's even better than a normal kids book so now i want to start because i i wanted to make this book about ai for kids because i've made a few other kids books about marketing and about audience growth i want to make one about ai but just haven't finished it i think i'm going to do it this way i think i'm going put out a virtual one and animate like animate it i don't know if i'll do it with grok i might do it with mid-journey but we'll see
00:24:09
Travis
Okay.
00:24:30
Travis
I know you don't know anything about this, but because I have ADHD and I opened to this thing, it's so hard to read the short paragraph when the visuals are moving on the left side. It's like, I can't, my brain will not let me focus on those words when there is an animated moving little show happening next to me. It's like I off. Okay. No, I can't even get past like three words.
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00:24:58
Dan Sanchez
Thank you everybody for listening.