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I Might Cancel ChatGPT (The "Workspace" Factor)
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In this AI marketing podcast episode, Dan Sanchez and Travis Sanchez face a major dilemma: Is it finally time to cancel ChatGPT in favor of Google's Gemini 3? After years of loyalty to OpenAI, Dan breaks down why the new Gemini 3 and "Nano Banana Pro" models might be the superior choice for marketers handling heavy research and content creation. The brothers stress-test the tools, comparing personality, image generation capabilities, and workflow integration, while deciding if they should jump ship now or wait for OpenAI's rumored December counter-attack.
My Favorite AI Tools
- Tella (AI screen recording app I record all my solo episodes with) - https://danchez.com/tella
- High Level (My all in one marketing platform) - https://danchez.com/highlevel
- Zencastr (Best AI podcast tool) - https://danchez.com/podtools
- n8n (my favorite AI automation tool) - https://danchez.com/n8n
Resources Mentioned
- Gemini Nano Banana Pro Announcement - https://x.com/GeminiApp/status/1991524174180024538
- Viral Post by Flowers (X) - https://x.com/flowersslop/status/1990892946821120369
- Dan's LinkedIn Poll - https://www.linkedin.com/in/digitalmarketingdan/
Timestamps
- 00:00 - The Crisis: Why a loyalist is considering leaving ChatGPT.
- 01:36 - Gemini 3 Breakdown: Why it wins on research and transcripts.
- 03:05 - The "Vibe" Check: Why ChatGPT still feels more human.
- 11:00 - Nano Banana Pro: Creating photorealistic images (and the "Gardening Woman" test).
- 17:40 - ChatGPT 5.1 Updates: M-dashes, instruction following, and group chats.
- 20:48 - The Decision: Why Dan is waiting until December to pull the plug.
- 25:04 - Everyday AI: Using bots to find "Moon Park" and 20-year-old candy memories.
- 30:25 - Poll Results: Is the marketing world ready to switch to Google?
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Transcript
00:00:05
Speaker
I've been a ChatGPT loyalist for almost three years now. Ever since that tool came out, I've been pretty committed to ChatGPT. I've been paying for it for two years. And ah this week, I felt like I might have to turn my back on ChatGPT for the first time ever because Gemini has gotten to the point where I'm like, oh, dang, what has ChatGPT got left? And in this episode, we're going to be covering this... chat GPT versus Gemini scenario right now, because I feel like a lot of people are starting to feel the heat. They're like, oh I don't know. I'm already using Google. I'm already paying for that. Do I really need this extra chat GPT subscription? Can Gemini become my my daily driver when it comes to my co-pilot, my main AI tool?
00:00:48
Speaker
So welcome back to Bot Bros, the segment of the AI-driven marketer where we uncover the help from the hype of all the AI news going on out there. I'm Dan Sanchez and I'm joined by my brother, Travis Sanchez.
00:00:59
Speaker
Here I am here for all to see. felt like that was a Billy Graham reference, but we'll see. So we're going to be diving into it, covering the news around Gemini 3, the Nano Banana Pro, and then talking about some of the other updates that have come out from all the other tools, because a lot of news has happened this week. But Google kind of sucked up all the air in the room. So we'll be covering a few of the other updates, like some of the past ones, like ChatGPT,
00:01:27
Speaker
5.1, some of the updates from Anthropic, even Grok had some updates this week that nobody talked about because Google was the highlight. But let's talk about that highlight, starting with Gemini 3. Now, if you haven't heard this week, Gemini 3 is Google's most advanced model. And it's not even, they didn't release like a bundle where it was like a low model and a high model or like a a fast model and a deep thinking model. They just released the deep thinking one, like the more powerful of the two. And ah it's freaking good.
00:01:59
Speaker
Like I was already starting to use Google's deep thinking 2.5 model more often because it was better at a lot of things than even chat GPT's best thinking model. But then they launched three and I'm like, oh, dang, this thing is just better at research. It's better at dealing with data. It's better at turning transcripts into long form content.
00:02:20
Speaker
It hallucinates less. It's more accurate. It's also not super long. It doesn't take it 30 seconds to think through things. It's pretty snappy for a deep thinking model. I think all around, it just crushed it and all the benchmarks. So I was like, wow, like I feel like 2.5 was already ahead of ChatGPT in many ways. And then they just like, well, in case that's not ahead enough, here's three.
00:02:44
Speaker
Thank you. You're welcome, world. And I was like, OK, well, this is nice. And I'm already paying for Google. So now it started the debate for me of like, oh, Like is ChatGPG supposed to be my main thing? I'm not a big fan of switching tools, but it might be time.
00:03:02
Speaker
Hey, before we get back to Gemini, I have to ask you a question. How are you feeling about where you're at with AI for 2026? Do you feel like you're ready or do you feel like the crazy amount of tools, workflows, automations and different things that you could learn are starting to slow you down?
00:03:15
Speaker
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00:04:05
Speaker
The frustration that I have found with Gemini is that it's long-winded. It doesn't speak to you as a person. So it feels like it's very robotic where there is some soft touches when it comes to chat GBT.
00:04:19
Speaker
Every time I speak with it its voice or I'm just having a conversation about maybe a relational situation, like how should i look at this? It always comes back feeling a little bit more Empathetic and sympathetic, which I know the emotional stuff you have to be careful for. But as a human, you kind of want to be related with. And Gemini is just so robotic. So that might just be a personality thing on what you prefer. But obviously, we're going to get into the image generation, which there's no comparison at this point when it comes to...
00:04:51
Speaker
Gemini. know, now that I think about it, i think you're right. ChatGPT is way better at the day-to-day small chats you have with Right. Way better. um And then I just, I'm logging into Gemini right now and I'm like, well, the part, part of the reason why ChatGPT is so much more friendly is because I told it to be like, like we had that conversation way back in spring. I'm like, bro, put this in your account settings. It's way better. And it made it friendly. It's fun. Like last night I asked it for like, Hey, I just remembered that my South African friend had these things called Rusks. It's like a biscotti, but it's like hard as a brick and you dunk it into your coffee. It's less sweet. It's amazing. But I just remembered that he had this thing that I've never had the sense. I'm like, but you, you probably know what it is. You can send me the recipe. right And sure enough, ChatGPT is like, I got you, bro. you know it's like yeah It's just conversational and fun. Gemini, none of that.
00:05:39
Speaker
Gemini is like, yes, of course, a Rusk. you know It sounds like a Wikipedia article. Correct. Correct. so And I will say this, even without the personalization on ChatGPT, it still has a personal touch to it that is nicer. Now, if you do turn the personalization on, it it feels like you're talking to your bro that doesn't mind roasting you every once in a while, which ah personally makes me laugh like,
00:06:00
Speaker
It makes me want to show somebody like, look how bad this thing just roasted. So I've, I've literally had it say, calm down, bro. Like you're getting way too far. So, but that was a question i was going ask you. Can you turn personalization on with Gemini? Is that a thing? yeah Well, here's the thing.
00:06:17
Speaker
i'm I'm in it right now and I'm like looking at the settings and there's no settings. There's no account level settings, which I'm like, Ooh, like that's such a freaking easy win. Like Google, like, give me some account level settings so I can just, just give me a freaking paragraph box that I could type into settings and I can instruct it on all the things like chat GPT has actually gotten nuanced with it where they have different fields you can pick, but all you really need is one blanket field. That's account settings that you can speak. Like, here's your personality. Here's the things I want you to remember. Here's a few details about me that you should remember.
00:06:49
Speaker
Um, but actually Gemini doesn't have that. So you can't even tell it to be more friendly if you wanted to. which sucks. So that's another thing that like, okay, chat GPT's got that on Gemini. It doesn't even have account level settings. They just unlocked the ability two days ago or three days ago when they released, uh, whatever Gemini three to have it. Remember all past conversations.
00:07:14
Speaker
I haven't tested it. I don't know how good it is. I imagine if you go and be like, hey, tell me a story about myself based on the last on the chat history, which for me would be kind of weird because I don't have enough conversations in it.
00:07:27
Speaker
all All the conversations I've had with Gemini are like, hey, convert this transcript into a blog post. Hey, use this transcript for this because that's what it's good at is dealing with transcripts. So I'm like, yeah it's not going to know too much about me, but it might. It's going to start remembering conversations. So I'm like, that was a big step forward.
00:07:44
Speaker
As far as like a feature that chat GPT had that was really cool that Gemini now has, but no, no account level settings to change personality or to remember things. There's no like top level memories like chat GPT has. So honestly, part of me kind of likes that. It's not that friendly though, because sometimes I just don't want it. I don't want it to be chatty and friendly.
00:08:07
Speaker
i understand. But, but, but, but I will caveat. Do what you're told. i will caveat that chat GBT with this new 5.1 update. It is less chatty. it is less chatty When it, when you're, it it like picks up the context of what you're talking about. It does.
00:08:25
Speaker
agree. when you're saying, Hey, I just need a recipe for this really quick. It's like, got it. Here you go. Yeah. So depending on how you ask your question versus like, Hey, like am I off base here? It'll be more, I don't know, wordy and relational. Yeah. So it really does well.
00:08:44
Speaker
It can read the room. read the It reads the room. Yeah. I like it. but There's a lot to be said for that. um I am nervous about the general direction. Open AI is going with opening it up for like adult conversations and stuff now, too. That's something I've hated about Grok um that I'm now. like, oh, is that something? like Is that going to be something I love to hate about chat GPT? And it's going to be like the final kicker for Gemini. I'd be like, pete deuces. I'm out.
00:09:08
Speaker
um we'll see I also think it's the wrong move. I mean, yeah. keeping it professional and streamlined and for creatives, but going just 18 plus kind of contents. I mean, why?
00:09:22
Speaker
Because a lot of people want it because there's market demand. I'm like, it's gross. I've been saying this on LinkedIn, but I'm like, if a lot of people are like, let us be adults, chat GPT. If I want to do adult stuff, let us be adults. And I'm like, every time someone makes the argument of let adults be adults, they're essentially saying to the world, let me behave like a chill child if I want to.
00:09:47
Speaker
but
00:09:51
Speaker
I'm like accurate. How accurate is that? That's how it comes off to me. It's like, hey, let me behave like children if we want to. Okay. So anyway, that's that's the news on Google 3.0. If you want to look at the stats, it pretty much crushes all the bench normal benchmarks. I've really loved creating a book with it. I'm also like working every other than this one episode every week. Almost every other episode we've been doing this month has been Ken and i working through a whole book.
00:10:21
Speaker
So, and and we're turning the transcripts into chapters a piece and Gemini freaking crushes it. I have to say, I'm still not sure whether it's, i'm going to use Claude or Gemini's Claude still has still, even with Gemini three still has that, that writer's touch that is just slightly better than Gemini, but chat GPT is out of the game when it comes to trans, like doing that particular really transcripted book chapter. It's just not even close to Gemini or Claude. It can't touch it.
00:10:46
Speaker
Wow. It can't keep the conversation straight because conversations are loosey goosey. You know, you kind of talk about it and then someone like like co-host jumps in, says something and then you swing back around it. Or maybe you even remember something 10 minutes later. Gemini will pick up on the all of it and put it in the right section.
00:11:02
Speaker
It'll go and grab all the nuance for it and put it in like a human writer would. Wow. That's deeply thinking about how to pull all the best content out. ChatGPT struggles with that. wow um But as a podcaster, I'm like, that's a big thing for me and Gemini now because I'm dealing a lot with transcripts. My whole marketing strategy is based on podcast transcripts. So I need it to be able to pull it out.
00:11:22
Speaker
Even this show gets turned into a newsletter and Gemini way better at taking the whole, all the segments we have in the show and turning it into the newsletter. Wow. So I'm like, sorry, chat. I just...
00:11:33
Speaker
Gemini is crushing it and you are not on this important part for me. So the other big news that came out this week is nano banana came out with a pro version, which is really just nano banana two or image generation, whatever number, instead of going with the number, they just, they named the last one, nano banana. And then instead of giving it nano banana two, they just called it nano banana pro. So really weird naming convention, but I guess the nano banana thing,
00:12:00
Speaker
caught and it hit hard. So they're like, well, we'll stick with the silly name, Nano Banana, because everyone knows what that is now. It is smart. yeah And they like using the banana emoji. So ah it works. It works.
00:12:11
Speaker
um But it is much better. And it's finally surpassed ChatGPT. I was using Nano Banana was better even before at like holding two likenesses. Like if you gave it a photo of yourself and said, put me in a spacesuit, it was probably going to look like you more than ChatGPT does.
00:12:26
Speaker
But it was not nearly as good at dealing with text or design or color palettes or a bunch of different things. So ChatGPT was actually a better chip design tool until yesterday.
00:12:37
Speaker
Once the Nano Banana Pro dropped, I'm like, yeah, this is game changer. All my thumbnails are going to be made by Nano Banana. Not only is it more accurate, it's better at design and you can generate faster and more. I could be like, hey, give me three different visual options for this podcast episode. And it's like writes me the the prompt. I'm like, okay, execute all three. Here's two source images of Travis and I for the image.
00:13:01
Speaker
And it'll be like, yes, sir. ba bam bam Done. Okay. It's a little slower than that, but you know how slow chat GPTs was, right? oh It was just like, it's like fully slow for me per image. Five minutes. Yeah.
00:13:13
Speaker
To get around it. I would just open up six tabs and then just give it the prompt back to back to back back with the image back to back to back. And then I would just let each of them render. You could do that for about 12 images at a time.
00:13:25
Speaker
So that's the way I sped up chat GPTs. I just render multiple at a time through multiple tabs, but Gemini, No problem. you You want to knock out three for you. Bam, bam, bam. All of them hit the prompt as you needed it to with the source files already in it. You could put up to 14 source files.
00:13:43
Speaker
You've got 14 individual people you need in that photo combined in there. It's going to pull all 14 of them in there. Wow. Freaking nuts. that is wild I haven't pushed it to its max yet. Cause I'm like, dude, the fact that it can do two is amazing, but you can do a whole squad in there.
00:13:57
Speaker
So that's nano banana. I know you were playing with it and you don't think you've, I don't think you've really been able to really test it yet. Cause you were, I think you were playing with like a past version of it yesterday. Yeah, i what what I think is confusing is that when you want the Nano Banana Pro, you have to you have to click Thinking with 3 Pro.
00:14:16
Speaker
Ah, is that the thing? I just have three pro turned on by default now. Yeah. So I, I, I, my default is fast. So if you ask it to generate an image in Gemini, it will just default to fast. So I couldn't, I'm like, how do get this thing to create realistic pictures of humans? Cause I was using Grok at the same time and Grok without having to switch any setting it's on its, its new model that it just released the 4.1.
00:14:42
Speaker
ah fast thinking. If I said create a realistic human, the images it creates, I'm like, dang, this is really good. If I click, if i I found the setting, if I click Gemini fast thinking or thinking with three pro, it does say creating with Nana banana three pro or whatever.
00:15:03
Speaker
The image is more realistic looking like it does look like someone just snapped a photo across the table from a real human. It's almost too real.
00:15:13
Speaker
It's funny. Yeah. It's so real that I'm like, well, that person is so bland looking because it's just creating like a, like a regular looking individual.
00:15:24
Speaker
If that makes sense. Now I'm sure I can make it, you know, give me someone who's, I don't know, more attractive or whatever. Add some freckles. like I just said, I use Nana banana for pro. And I said, make the most realistic human. That's all. That was the only prompt I said. And it made a woman probably 65 gardening.
00:15:47
Speaker
There, there isn't a chance I would have been, I would have known this was AI. There's not a chance. if you saw it in the feed, you would just been like, Oh yeah, there's a woman gardening. Cool. Yeah. I'm like, wow, what a stock photo of a woman gardening. I'll send it to you right now. It is the most casual. I mean, it's clearly like she's in a community garden with people in the background. It's got great. Like,
00:16:10
Speaker
depth perception on it. Oh yeah. then This looks like it came right out of eye stock photo. Uh huh. But it's like they're the dirt shot with a nice camera, but like the lighting's perfect. Oh my gosh. It looks so good.
00:16:21
Speaker
Isn't that crazy? And that looks um so bad the prompt for that was literally create a realistic human. Yeah. Her wrinkles. It freaking crushed it. That looks like a real person. Usually it's the hair that gives it away. doesn't look like it at all.
00:16:36
Speaker
She wears this like worn jean jacket, which. Yeah. She's got the gardening gloves that has the rubber kind of rubber front with still the mesh back. And it's like.
00:16:48
Speaker
hewed from being used. I don't know it. I'm there's weeds in the unfocused part of the photo and the dirt behind her. Listen. So now part of me wants to take this photo. And I think the thing that's fun about nano banana pros. Now you can make these super high real is a very realistic looking images. And then with click of a button, say like, okay, animate it Bam. All of a sudden it's video. And that's, I think this is why nano banana pro is actually kind of a big deal because I'm,
00:17:16
Speaker
And VO three is very powerful, or I think it's 3.1 now, but like it can now deal with that complexity and the richness of the images. I created an image of like a tomorrow's episode for the thumbnail. yeah And I was like, I was like, just give it a subtle animation. And it was like my, I don't know, it was a weird picture of like this AI brain coming out of my head. And it's like screens kind of floating around my head. And it animated it with the subtle pan in. and The screens are all like hovering in the sound effects are perfect and subtle and light.
00:17:48
Speaker
um And it looks like me just kind of looking into the camera blinking. I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is amazing. Yeah, it was really good game changer. So nano banana pro now crushes chat GPT's image generator.
00:18:02
Speaker
And to move into the third bit of news, and then we'll talk about, okay, now what do we do with all this? ChatGPT, of course, came out with 5.1, which was just a subtle tweak to its five model ah last week. And it's it's pretty good. They kind of let it go understated.
00:18:16
Speaker
And everybody was like, oh, okay, wait. Oh, look, this is good. Oh, it's way better at following instructions. And the big news was that it can now smart enough that if you tell it not to use M dashes, it generally doesn't use M dashes, which was like, whoa.
00:18:30
Speaker
Right. That would be the big killer thing was interesting. It's just better at following instructions. And they brought some of the warmth that people loved about 4.0 back. I've noticed it. It's way more friendly again versus 5.0 was a little bit more cold and calculated, which I didn't mind. i was like, I don't even mind. don't need to be all chatty with it all the time. But honestly, when it starts getting friendly with you, it's it's hard to like not smile. So like we all like it. i Right.
00:18:55
Speaker
was like, I don't, We all like kindness and sympathy, right? All the time. Well, they also launch group chat. Like you can actually have a group chat with somebody else's chat. You can account like where you're having like an instant message or a many interesting. I didn't know that he can now be in the conversation with you.
00:19:14
Speaker
I don't know how that works. They just released yesterday. they haven't even tested it yet, but that's a thing. And of course, Grok made some updates to its model this week. I think Claude even made some updates to its model this week. There was just a lot of updates, but Google had a lot of things going on. um But all this stuff's going on. ChatGPT is great. It's the best it's ever been.
00:19:34
Speaker
It's the best it's ever been. But now with Google making such large strides, I'm in this like conundrum where I'm like, oh my gosh, do I... I'm not a big fan of switching tools. I don't like really even juggling a lot of different tools. Like I have been because Gemini is so much better at some key things to the point where like, well, I'm already paying for Google workplaces with, for my email account. Like I already have, I actually have two Google workplaces account for danchez.com and ai-driven marketer.com. So I'm already paying for Google twice. And that gives you the pro Gemini. Yeah.
00:20:06
Speaker
Yeah. Of course, there's different levels of Google workplaces. So my personal one is like at the bare minimum model. um And then my, my AI driven marketer ones. Is it an expense thing? are you not wanting to pay another $20 for?
00:20:17
Speaker
i just, I'm like, do I really need the plus version of chat GPT anymore? When everything I would have done with plus, I could just now do with GM and I, it's like, I could still keep chat GPT as a free account and use it for the few things that chat GPT does better. But like,
00:20:34
Speaker
I'm already already using Google Drive extensively. I'm already doing YouTube extensively, like give Google Analytics, all the other things. And Google's slowly building out all these other apps like Notebook LM and... They have their own automation systems that are very much beta 1.0. So they're not that great yet. But I'm like, eventually, once they connect it to like make it easier so their automated systems can connect into other apps, I'm like, I'll probably use that because I'm already paying for it. Like, do I really need all these other tools?
00:21:06
Speaker
Part of me always likes to take a look at the tech stack and stream it down to as simple as possible because the more complex things get, like the more time consuming, the worse it usually is. So now I feel like we've had an abundance of AI tools and there's some consolidation happening.
00:21:20
Speaker
And now I'm on the fence. I'm on the fence. And really it's the really, the bet is if I make the change now, will I be okay with that for at least a whole year?
00:21:31
Speaker
Because, of course, ChatGPT is going to come back swinging in a month or two. And am I going to be like, am I going to have instant remorse when I shut down and kind of like stop using ChatGPT? Am I going to want to go back?
00:21:45
Speaker
That's the hard part. And that's that's really the question is, am I committing for the next year? Because I don't like switching environments like this. You have to pull all your chats over, all your custom GPTs. I'm now pulling a lot of my custom GPTs and gems now because it's just better at executing it.
00:22:00
Speaker
Jeez. So what do you do? You have some decisions to make. here's Here's how I'm evaluating it. I'm looking at it and thinking that chat Gemini is now ahead.
00:22:11
Speaker
There's a few things that I wish they had like projects. I wish there was a collaboration feature in said projects, but I'm like, that's not that hard to make. They'll probably release that within the next three months. I wish their automation tools worked a little better.
00:22:24
Speaker
And I wish I now just discovered that they don't have account settings. I'd like that. So there's only a few small things that I need for it to completely eliminate chat GPT in my workflows. So I'm thinking that chat GPT will, um um I'm expecting if they throw some f freaking swings in December that I'm like, oh, that's game changer. I'm not moving. That's kind of what I'm waiting on now.
00:22:49
Speaker
ChatGPT is going to have something cooking and they're going to release it in December. Like they had a whole lineup of things that released a December last year that were game changer. Right. So probably by the end the year, by Christmas, I will have made a choice. Am i committing to Gemini or am I going to stay with ChatGPT?
00:23:06
Speaker
Wow. Right now I'm straddling both and I could go either way. Wow. So it's really depends on what ChatGPT releases in December. Otherwise next year, I'm just going to commit to Gemini if they don't have a sufficient response.
00:23:18
Speaker
There it is. Well, waiting for December.
00:23:25
Speaker
That should be a Hallmark movie. Waiting for December. Some weird nerd AI Hallmark movie, which i wonder, there's so many Christmas Hallmark movies that I'm like, someone's got to make an AI Christmas Hallmark movie, right? Yes.
00:23:39
Speaker
Since AI girlfriends are becoming a thing, eventually someone's going to make that movie. Someone's going to make like the Hallmark spinoff spoof with AI. All right. Someone make that an eight.
00:23:50
Speaker
ah If not, I'll just have VO three create it two years from now. and I'll watch it by myself. It's my wife. I'll probably not appreciate that one. Anyway, moving to yours in two years. AI is going to be sending you a text. Hey, remember that podcast that you talked about creating an AI movie that was Hallmark themed? Yeah, well, we made it for you. Would you like to see it or do you want us to scrap this project? You're like, do you want to see the trailer? You're like, no, I'm good. i don't want it.
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00:25:22
Speaker
Moving it on to everyday AI. Have you got any use cases of things you've been doing for AI over the last couple of weeks? Yeah. So we're doing a scavenger hunt for kids at my church and they were looking at Pinterest for just different images for the nativity scene.
00:25:41
Speaker
And it was just like, black and white, drawn out, boring, very cartoonish looking AI stuff or not AI stuff, just generic nativity thing. So I told the Christmas planner, i was like, let me just create seven images with AI. So I used AI said, write seven prompts that can create images that tell the nativity story.
00:26:04
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So then ChatGPT wrote out the seven prompts. And then I was testing. This is how I knew I was testing between Gemini and ChatGPT to who create a better image. And obviously Nano Banana just dropped. But I wasn't even using Nano Banana 3. I was still using the original.
00:26:20
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Nano Banana. Nano Banana. Nano Banana Pro is the new one. I know they're all over the board with naming. I need to go back and actually test the prompts that I actually got these Nativity Scavenger Hunt images created with Nano Banana Pro and see...
00:26:34
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how much better they turn out. But we went with a Lego theme. So I have the nativity story completely told an image form in seven images in Lego. Brilliant, bro.
00:26:48
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Yes. So that are the that those are the scavenger hunt images. And of course, I did a ton of renditions, different images. And I'll so i'll send you a couple that I had it create. And it did a fantastic job.
00:27:02
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I mean, Gemini crushed it. unbelievably. So, and that wasn't even the pro model. so I'm curious what it would do. i Recently, just yesterday, i was thinking back to like a childhood park we used to go to, but I couldn't remember. I didn't remember it was called. So instead of going to Google, which Google can't get the context unless it's using AI itself. I went to chat GPT. I was like, yo chat.
00:27:27
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I'm trying to remember a park that I used to go to as a kid. It was in the LA general area and we all called it moon park. There's these massive cement bridges in it. It looked like it'd been around a while. It's probably still there.
00:27:40
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Where find me images of this park. I want to see if it's still around. And sure enough, it's like, Oh, I know what park you're talking about. and everybody that's the, that's the name. Everybody calls it moon park.
00:27:52
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And if you go and Google it, you could just Google moon park. It's actually pretty well known by that name, but it brought me images of it and it's still there. It's like, so it's like, it's this cement park they made in the seventies and it has like craters and weird bridges. It looks like a lunar landscape or at least kind of like what they pictured it in the seventies. And it's kind of like a nostalgic place in LA.
00:28:11
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um So that was just kind of a weird thing that I used chat GPT for recently was to kind of find something that I had to explain it and then have it go and find something. have it go and find it because that's something you weren't able to do with Google search before. You couldn't have just like given a paragraph explanation of a childhood place that you couldn't remember the name of.
00:28:30
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But chat GPT is really good at context and we'll start doing all the searches for you to go find it. And it did. I don't remember if I shared this already, but a while back I used AI to find a specific candy that I had in the seventh grade. So it's been 20 years and I didn't know what it was called.
00:28:46
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I knew there was a hard candy. And there was an actual dried fruit inside of this hard candy. So I just searched. i I searched for 20 years for this candy and I had no idea what it was called. Google doesn't help you at all because it's referencing anything that people have written, which it's like it wasn't hitting anything SEO wise. So I explained it to chat GBT and it goes, oh yeah, you're talking about Lee He Moi.
00:29:12
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It's a traditional Hawaiian spicy dried plum that sometimes is just the dried fruit or it's surrounded in this candy. Here's a link to Amazon. And I went, huh.
00:29:24
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So I bought it. I ate it. I'm like, this is it, man. That was a 20 year dream fulfilling moment. it's like all these old things.
00:29:35
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There's all these things in my mind that you think of like in over the last five years or so, you're like, Oh, wouldn't it be nice if, well, I don't, I don't know where that person's at anymore. So I'm not going to ask them, you know, that was like the Rusks that I talked about, like the, the, that biscotti like thing. I was like, well, ah I could probably email the Yonkers about that, but I just, I'm not to take the time, but now it's like, I just asked chat GPT, like, Hey, do you know what Russ are? Can you send me a recipe done?
00:30:02
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Um, but recently I asked chat GPT to find me a Tik TOK video that I had seen and it failed. Gemini. was looking for that video of that guy doing the skit about chat GPT.
00:30:14
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You know, he's like, tell me but Tell me a story about the creation of the world. And ChatGPT's like, let me tell you a story. And he's like, more less words, more simple. yeah yeah You know that video? Yeah. yeah And ChatGPT could not locate said video. Not until i gave it it I finally found an image of that particular creator. And it's like, oh, this is this is who you're talking about. Okay. And then it found the video. It'd take a bunch of guesses, but it could not find the video.
00:30:39
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So it's not perfect, but it's it's a lot better than what we had before. Wow. Moving on to the poll of the week. I went and asked my audience on LinkedIn, are you considering moving to Gemini from ChatGPT as your main a ipool or main AI tool?
00:30:58
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This was the poll. And I had people all over the place on this one. It was like really mixed. Here were the options. I said, already have on the edge. I've considered it. No way. i have 148 votes on this sucker as as of this recording. And 22% said already have. I'm like, oh, oh that's a lot.
00:31:20
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15% said they were on the edge, which is where I'm at right now. I'm one of those votes. And 31% said I've considered it. And said no way So it's a pretty dang good split between the four. So we have the full gamut. There are definitely people in the comments that are defending like, nah, I just like chat GPT better. Can't explain why. I'm like, yeah, it's that emotional and empathy, I think is what it is. Right. That's why.
00:31:45
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But a lot of people, I can tell Gemini is raising quite a base of fans. There's some people that I see regularly commenting on my Gemini post. They're like, yeah, come on. I'm like, okay. So we got some rowdy people for Gemini. A year ago, nobody.
00:31:57
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Zero. used it. You know who that is today though, that I'm like, I wonder if they'll come back because Gemini was nobody a year ago, but now like the person that nobody uses now is meta.
00:32:09
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Have you ever met a single person who uses Zuckerberg's AI? No, not one, not zero, not even a mention, not even a holler. Like this is the one podcast where they're probably going to get mentioned other than in breaking news. You know why I think that is?
00:32:24
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Because Meta threw their AI everywhere into Instagram, into WhatsApp, into Facebook, into Messenger. And if you used it like everyone tried, they probably went and said, let me just search one thing.
00:32:37
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That thing hallucinated more than a pig who found a pile of so psychedelic mushrooms, man. I'm telling you. what
00:32:49
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and And they had one shot to make people go, okay, this is potentially a game changer AI. They had one shot and they released it and everyone went, what in the hallucination craziness is this? And no one has gone back.
00:33:02
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Yeah. I just don't even test it Even when they release new stuff, I'm like, if it's actually good, I'll find out about it. Somebody else will tell me. Grok is good. Grok is great. Like if, if ever, if Gemini and chat GPT disappear, then I'm like, okay, I'll just use Grok. It's, it's, it's amazing. It's great.
00:33:18
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Is it my, is it better than the other two for like your daily app? No, no. but Would it be a great replacement? Yeah, it's, it's, it's powerful. I can do a lot. It can search and find things that can do things. It's great. I don't like that crap they're shoving in it now, but it's, it's, it's fine.
00:33:34
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meta, I'd be like, ugh. Right. It's just big, dang. um But it is interesting. I remember on ah Social Media Examiner has its AI marketing report that we covered maybe a month ago.
00:33:48
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And the big insight that I had on there is that they, on their report, which they've done two years now, they let people select multiple tools, not just their top tool, because then ChatGPT becomes the winner, but they select which ones are you using on like a weekly or daily basis or something like that. And Google,
00:34:04
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of course, Gemini, chat GPT is still the winner both years. It went from like 90% to 83%, not a significant difference, but Gemini jumped from like the low teens, maybe like a 10 to 13% somewhere around there to like the low fifties in utilization. I was like, that's a major jump that's as maybe like a secondary tool, but still that's when I started just seeing that report. I'm like, Oh shoot, Gemini is actually coming up and run. I remember laughing at people for even mentioning Gemini last spring. And now I'm like already a like considering moving to it.
00:34:35
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Wow. Gemini at Google swinging, man. So they are that's the poll results. If you want to see the next poll, I'm usually putting them out on Thursdays, sometimes Wednesdays, but come connect with me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com slash I N slash digital marketing. Dan, that's where these polls are. If you want to throw your own vote in or throw your, your comment into the mix on those posts, that's where we're doing those.
00:35:00
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Last segment is the viral post. I can't say actually this post is not viral at all, but I thought it was, it was, it was worth mentioning in this conversation about Gemini, uh, this X account called flowers. And he's kind I don't, I don't know if it's a man or a woman actually, because there's no profile picture. it's just flowers. You're like, okay. Uh, but I see them commenting in AI and they get quoted and like, they're, they're part of the mix of people on X talking about AI. That's like where most of the news breaks is on that platform.
00:35:29
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and He had an interesting take that I was like, yeah, I'm sure a lot of people are thinking about this, but I wanted to address it. Flower's take is, this is so annoying. Every few months, a new model drops and the same people start yelling that some competitor is cooked. It just rotates. One release, it's Google, then it's OpenAI, then it's suddenly Anthropic or XAI on the top.
00:35:50
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Can't we just agree that the newest model is usually the strongest at the moment and everyone else will leapfrog again and they will ship their, when they ship their next one. I was like, reasonable take. I also thought of that, but this time it's feeling a little bit different because yes, that's been going on for the last year and a half and everyone's models better. And then they're better for like two weeks. And then somebody else ships a new model. And that's kind of where we've we've been. I feel like Gemini was better.
00:36:19
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ChatGPT put out four or 5.1, didn't top Gemini 2.5. And then they put out three. So I'm like, hmm. There is, and we're kind of neck and neck, but there's still, you could still see where the momentum of somebody is changing the you that the trajectory is looking different.
00:36:38
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It's not where they're at now. It's where they were. And where the trajectory of Google is going, I think is what's different is we're looking at like where Google was like way behind and like over a very short period of time, the momentum they have tells me that six months from now, they will be the clear winner where chat GPT has been the clear leader for two years now.
00:36:59
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Right. And I think that's my feedback to flowers post. Cause I thought it too. And then I sat down and thought about it a little bit more and read a lot of other people's comments. So it's not just me thinking this. A lot of people are seeing that.
00:37:12
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ah Do you think that's accurate that like we're looking at a trajectory or do you think flowers has got more like has something better to say on it? No, I agree with him. And that's why I was a little shocked when you were like, i don't know. I think I'm gonna jump ship and go to Gemini. I'm like, bro, but within within a month or two, you might be going, why did I do that? So I'm like, but I don't know how long you can hold fast because you kind of do have to, well, I don't know. I guess it depends on your budget and if you can afford to just play around with the top two or three while things are just so progressively getting more intense and
00:37:51
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It's not even just about budget. It's about time optimizing. Because like every time I do this, I have to move stuff over from one to another. like I'm slowly moving over my custom GPT instructions and rebuilding in gems and then working out the bugs because Gemini is a little bit different than ChatGPT and you have to streamline it and spend some time working on it. But I have a bunch of different processes and one that are hard to just make them. i don't want to have to do that over and over again.
00:38:15
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But don't you think there will be... different qualities for each. Of course. And people tell me that all the time. They're like, well, I use chat GPT for this and Gemini for that. I'm like, cool. But I generally like to go all in on one app. I like 80% of my time to be spent on one app.
00:38:32
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Right. And then I 20% for one off use cases or experimentation with the others. I find if you're jumping around too much, you're, you're losing steam context switching between these apps and a lot of your data is spread out across all of them where you probably want it more than one.
00:38:48
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Right.
00:38:52
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Final note, when you create an image with Gemini, with the pro thinking model, it creates a nine by 16 image. If you're not using pro, it creates a nine by 16 image or a square image. Excuse me.
00:39:06
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So I don't know why. But isn't that strange? You can tell it to make whatever you want it to make. before it would only make You can't in regular Gemini. I created these Lego images.
00:39:19
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I said, make it 16 by nine when I was using the fast version. It was all it would not do it. Yeah, no, no. The new one can. OK, that makes sense. The new one can do 16 by nine, which they finally figured out like everybody wants 16 by nine. Cause that's the standard thumbnail size, keynote size. Like every 16 by nine is standard for rectangles. I don't know why they went with the other ratio. They're like for like old TVs. Yeah. What the heck? No, that is a big thing. And I've been loving it because now, but now it's going to be interesting because I had a pretty good thumbnail process and now everybody's thumbnails are going to be f freaking lit on YouTube because it's really easy to make awesome thumbnails seriously with the Gemini. So,
00:39:57
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That's the pod, man. Battle of the bots.