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Episode 6: "So Long, Farewell, Auf Wiedersehen, Adieu"
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The Final Episode. The Search is over, we have 9/10s of our staff, so we bid farewell to this chapter of our fandom. The boys cope with recent events, give thoughts on how the staff looks, prognosticate on the 2024 schedule, and answer your questions!
We thoroughly enjoyed doing this the past several months and we are extremely grateful you joined us on this ride.
NOTE: Due to technical difficulties with the recording, we weren't able to upload until a week after we recorded, so uh, some things have changed since then.
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Transcript
Introduction and Setup
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All right, everybody, and welcome to what will probably be the last episode of The Search.
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I am Ali.
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I'm joined by Ryan and a very angry Zanjo.
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So before we get into the meat of the things, let's just get it out of the way.
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We are recording Tuesday, January 9th.
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And if you're listening to the podcast, you're probably deranged.
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You're probably connected into the world of sports.
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And...
Sports World Struggles and New Excitements
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You're probably struggling to cope with the events that transpired last night.
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You are 100% doing better than I am.
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So good job.
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I don't live in Michigan, so I don't have to deal with it.
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I can shut in.
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I work with a bunch of fucking nerds that don't actually care about sports.
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I can disconnect and still function.
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Whereas you guys still live back home in Michigan and you have to interact on a daily basis with the dregs of society.
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Yeah, I don't think it's quite as bad for me as it is for Zanjo because I live in East Lansing, so it's mostly MSU fans.
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I mean, of course, there's some fucking idiot Michigan fans here, but I think, yeah, Zanjo is in a more –
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pro U of M area than I am.
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So he's probably dealing with the worst than me, but he, he's also not in state a lot.
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So I guess you go either way here.
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Yeah.
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I have not been in town since the road.
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And I'm okay with that.
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But yeah, this is, uh, not fun.
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I'm not having a very good time.
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It sucks.
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Cause I'm actually really excited about the new coaching hire, but, uh,
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not really ideal circumstances right now.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like just multiple, multiple safeguards, multiple things that could have prevented it from happen.
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Multiple, like what we call it in, uh, I was trying to think there's a term one of my coworkers use for something for something today.
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And I can't even think about it off the top of my head.
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It's fucking, uh,
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Whatever.
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It's... Multiple things failed that could have prevented this.
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Let's start by one.
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The one that we can probably control and we're actually trying to address.
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We fucking sucked the past two years.
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We couldn't recruit against them.
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We couldn't fucking play them.
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We had... Like, we... We could not...
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we were not at the top of our game.
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And because we were not at the top of the game, the first line of defense against like them and those assholes was not there.
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So then it was up to, it moved on to the next line of defense and it would have been Penn state and Ohio
Coaching Criticisms and Speculations
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state.
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And they're coached by two fucking dumb asses.
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Yes.
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Brian day fucking terrorist, by the way.
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Yeah.
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Can I say this real quick?
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If I'm an Ohio state fan or if I'm a Penn state fan and I'm, and I want,
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my coach to stick around, I would be a fucking idiot.
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Ryan Day sucks.
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He's an unserious-ass human being.
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What they should do is they should fucking fire his ass and try to get Mike Frabel to come there seriously.
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Yeah, oh my god.
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That's like set up for them on a fucking platter right now.
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I don't think Frabel wants to coach in college, though.
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That's the problem.
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But yeah, that's the ideal situation.
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Like, you fire Ryan Day, get him the fuck out, and then hire Frabel.
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but I don't think he wants to put recruiting and NIL bullshit, so I think he's going to stay in the league.
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And everyone's like, who are they going to get that's better?
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What's the worst case that happens?
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You go from winning nothing that matters to going to winning nothing that matters.
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They could hire Luke Fickle.
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Yeah, I mean, they wouldn't be a materially worse place, honestly.
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They're still winning nothing.
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Yeah, Luke Fickle's from Ohio.
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I saw that.
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He's no SU alum.
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Yeah, he's an OSU alum.
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He grew up in – he was born in Ohio.
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Like, I was reading that stat.
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I think, like, that Big Ryan dude –
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Posted it like the coaches that let Michigan win a national championship on their watch were not from Ohio.
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And Ryan Day is not from Ohio.
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But if they bring back, if they bring them home, like they'll do it.
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But like I don't actually want that to happen.
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No.
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I don't want it to get to the second line of defense.
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It should have been the first line of defense.
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We should have fucking beat them at home.
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All right.
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My defense got busted on a phone call.
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yeah exactly literally speaking yeah like like jim harbaugh cheated in the game mel tucker cheated out of the game like whatever all right so then we were we were cheating we were just doing it wrong yeah we were doing the wrong cheating we were yeah some people are cheating on football some people are cheating on their wives yep
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So then moving on.
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So like, like these assholes are like 10 and two coaches, right?
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They, they coach at these programs that can regularly recruit and get five stars, but they're like, I would say, you know what?
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They're fucking Mel tuckers.
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They're Mel tuckers.
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I didn't do it.
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I follow a lot of OSU fans on Twitter and, uh,
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Most of them are all pissed off because they're taking super small classes.
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There's a dude that starts on Michigan's defensive line, and their defensive line coach said they didn't want him because he was too small.
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And the kid's from Ohio, so now they're all fucking mad because they're like, we really passed on these dudes.
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They sound like Michigan fans.
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You know, when MFC was getting players out of Michigan.
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Didn't OSU pass
Team Analysis and Recruitment Impact
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on JJ?
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What?
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Didn't OSU pass on JJ?
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No, they didn't.
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I can't remember if they did or not.
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I don't think they did.
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I think they took Stroud.
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Who did they take?
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What class was JJ in?
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Was he in Stroud's class?
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No, I think he was in McCourt's class.
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He's a junior right now.
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That's a fucking screw-up on their part if that's what happened.
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Jesus.
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Yikes.
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I mean, I don't think JJ is some amazing god-tier quarterback, but McCourt sucks.
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But, yeah, I mean, yeah, most OSU fans are all pissed off because they were taking smaller classes.
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They weren't processing guys at the rate Urban was.
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like dead weight guys.
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And yeah, I mean, if I was an OSU fan, I'd be fucking livid right now.
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Yeah.
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So basically what you described, I'm already livid as it is, but I'd be even more mad if I was an Ohio state fan.
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Yeah.
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You're, you're basically describing Mel Tucker.
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Yeah.
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Going 10 to two at Ohio state is like going four and eight at Rutgers.
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It means nothing to me.
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Yeah.
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You're playing, you're playing the little sisters of the poor.
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You have more talent than every single team you play.
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in the conference.
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Right.
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Nine games that you're playing the little, nine games that you're playing a little sister, the poor one year, MSU might be good.
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One year, Penn state might be good.
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And then Michigan's good at the end.
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And if MSU gets their shit together, fine.
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But like, we haven't had our shit together since 2015 and you still suck.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, I mean, I,
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That was the second line of defense.
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We should not be relying.
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Honestly, they could stay shitty for all I care because the hope is with what's happening in East Lansing, we'll be able to catch up before they get their shit together.
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And then we can whatever.
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Moving on.
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The third line of defense.
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The fuck, Alabama?
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What the fuck?
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Oh my God.
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By the way, this was probably their worst team ever.
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Well, I guess last year's team was probably worse than this year's team.
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But this was the weakest Alabama team to ever make the playoff by far.
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They were not – like, don't get me wrong.
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They're obviously uber-talented.
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But, like, this was not, like, a vintage Alabama team at all.
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It wasn't even close.
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Yeah, their center looked like it was a fucking – what's it called?
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Kapilovich product.
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You want to know?
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Guess where that guy's going, too.
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Guess where that guy's going now.
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Wyoming.
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No, Ohio State.
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No, Baylor.
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Ohio State fucking took this dude.
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Oh, you're talking about the center.
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Yes.
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Kapilovich is going to Baylor, and then Ohio State took the center.
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Yeah, great job.
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All right, dude, we are going to fucking – maybe we'll get into the long-term segment, but I think we'll beat Ohio State in the next three years.
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I'm not going to lie.
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I ain't going that far, but, I mean, dude, they don't scare me.
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No.
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Compared to what they used to be.
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They don't scare me anymore.
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Filovich is the absolute worst person to have ever coached at Baylor.
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Oh, my Lord.
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We're going to get canceled already.
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Here we go.
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I literally said Zanjo is going to get us banned.
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So.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, no, I don't know.
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I was going to make a joke like when you said that Ryan Day is a terrorist.
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He's not even a good terrorist.
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He's like the Red Army faction from the 70s.
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All they did was smoke cigarettes and go to prison.
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You're on a terror watch list, but you're not even good at your fucking job at it.
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You're just all talk.
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That's what the Red Army faction was in the 70s.
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That's a fair comparison.
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He's more like Kumar from Harold and Kumar.
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He gets on the terrorist watch, doesn't have spoken of bong.
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All right, everybody, just a reminder,
Washington's Challenges and Coaching Prospects
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Zanjo is brown.
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He can say that.
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What happened to the movie?
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Yeah.
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All right, so then the third line of defense and the third and final round of defense fails.
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And then you basically have what happened last night, which is...
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Honestly, like, I was hoping the Washington offense would, like, do something.
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But, like, Penix was off.
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Michigan just, like, the only time, like, Washington seemed to have stood a chance is when, like,
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Harbaugh and and Sharon Moore were calling plays to show off JJ McCarthy and they were like whenever they let JJ cook that was when like Washington stood a chance but if they just ran the fucking ball they could have if they just ran the ball like just like just draw plays or not draw plays dive plays or whatever just run it up the fucking middle every time every play they probably would have won like 50 to 7 or something so there's two things from yesterday that
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make me hopeful and positive.
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The number one is the fact that Michigan and Washington were in the national title game.
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One of them shares a state with us and the other one's one spot above us in the talent composite, recruiting talent composite.
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Meaning we can fucking be where they're at right now.
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And last year TCU was there too.
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Can I add a caveat to that point, please?
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Because you're also hounding dudes like Tumese who were just
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highly rated recruits that were just really good at t-shirt camps and weren't good football players.
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And that's fine, but MSU can bring the talent.
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That's not a full fair snapshot of talent.
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But MSU can bring the talent to campus to compete at that level.
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That's my point.
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And number two is if that's the best thing the Pac-12 is going to bring to the Big Ten, like, Jesus Christ, why are we talking about expansion?
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Like, it's a big deal.
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Yeah.
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I'm not, yeah, like, I'm not, like, Oregon...
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is probably the scariest team that's coming to the conference.
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USC, as long as Lincoln Riley there, is just going to have a shitty defense every year.
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I like Kalen DeBoer, but how much of him is because of Michael Pemmicks?
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He's been around him his whole time, other than when he was at Fresno State, where we had Jay Kaner, who was a really good quarterback.
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So, I mean...
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We'll see what happens with them.
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I think this year is going to be really somewhat telling for the future of Washington football.
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Because they're going to have Michael Penix.
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They're probably going to lose a bunch of the wide receivers.
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Yeah.
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So.
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And like, so I was watching the game last night with my neighbor, who's a UW alum.
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And all that stuff.
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And so his comments were like, it's starting to show the difference between Harbaugh and, and DeBoer, like Harbaugh coached in the NFL, went to the Superbowl.
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It's been coaching for like, what, eight years now.
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And then Kalen DeBoer is a third year head coach.
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Like those things were starting to show, but yeah, like you said, we'll see what happens.
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And like,
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How much of it was Panix, how much was him?
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And then like, yeah.
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And then so yesterday happened and we're living in a world where the people that deserve it the least, the worst person that you know in the office, the worst person that calls into the radio shows that you listen to, the worst people on Twitter, the worst people in your fucking lives, they get the nice thing.
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They're all going to break up.
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Buckeye nut?
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They're going to crack a Buckeye nut on Bo Schembeck with his grave now.
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I will say that I did take solace knowing that this is the only thing these people can have any happiness in their lives about.
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So there is that.
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I mean, actually, hold on.
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Zanjo has a counterpoint to that.
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Yeah, there's one thing that's happening this Sunday that they could also find happiness in, and for that reason, go Rams.
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You are a fucking – you are a fucking moron.
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Dude, fuck off.
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Fuck off.
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I need one good thing.
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I need to set the scene for this too.
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I am 29 years old.
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I was not alive when they last hosted a playoff game.
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I have supported this team from 0-16, fucking Jim Schwartz, fucking Marty Morninwege taking the wind.
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Fucking Jim Caldwell looking at the sideline with two watches.
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Fucking Matt Patricia raping half of South Padre Island.
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I was with the whole fucking time.
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I've dreamed of this fucking day for fucking 20 years.
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And you know what?
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I'm willing to throw it all away just to bring these people sadness.
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You are.
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You are.
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I'm going to the game.
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I bought tickets before they came out.
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I am going to the game.
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And I don't care if I come out sad.
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Because if these people come out sadder, I'd consider it a win.
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That is stupid.
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They're not going to come out sadder.
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Here's the thing.
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They're going to be happy still, man.
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They're going to be happy because they won the fucking national championship.
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That's the stupidest fucking shit I've ever heard in my life, man.
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Seriously.
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Here's the thing.
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If they come out sadder than you are today after that game, imagine us.
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Imagine us.
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Yeah.
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You...
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No, because in order for them to be sad after their fucking reason for existence wins a national championship, in order for them to be fucking sad, the thing that needs to happen on Sunday is going to be the most horrific thing that would ever happen to Lions fans.
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Like, unprecedented levels of fuckery.
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You're talking about, like...
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Matt Stafford throwing a pass to Cooper Cup that gets bobbled, touches the ground in the end zone, and gets ruled a fucking catch in a four-point game with two seconds left on the clock.
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You're talking unprecedented levels of NFL fuckery that would make them sad after what happened last night.
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And that would make us...
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Even just unbelievably miserable.
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Because then we have to go, then on Tuesday night, we have to go, or earlier that day, we probably have to deal with us losing the Rutgers in basketball.
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Let's calm down.
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It's not going to get that basketball team anymore.
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Here's the thing.
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Here's the thing.
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I might be sad for five minutes, but then I'm going to look to my right, look to my left, see these sad-ass Michigan fans next to me.
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I'm going to feel a lot better.
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They're not going to be sad.
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They don't give a fuck.
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There's a lot of Michigan fans who care a lot about the Lions too.
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Even if it's 10% of that fan base, I won't hit with it.
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I'm telling you right now, if we won a national title in football and the Lions lost this game, I wouldn't give a fuck.
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I wouldn't give a fuck.
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I wouldn't give a shit either.
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That's different.
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I wouldn't give a shit either.
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It's enough of them out there to care about the Lions still.
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This is your worst take of all time.
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It's also Tuesday night.
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There's a real chance I can come around by Saturday.
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Someone showed me a Rams t-shirt today and I fucking saw a red.
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So there's also that.
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This is your worst take ever.
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But in the meantime, I've gotten nothing but sadness for Michigan fans.
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Five weeks ago, you were all about Urban.
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Like two months ago, you were all about Urban.
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You have these diehard takes.
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but I don't think you ever see that.
00:17:47
Speaker
I'm back on Urban now.
00:17:49
Speaker
What the fuck?
00:17:50
Speaker
What is wrong with you?
00:17:51
Speaker
I want national titles, but we can talk about this later.
00:17:55
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, if Texas A&M couldn't get Urban, Urban's not coming back.
00:18:00
Speaker
He's not coaching again.
00:18:01
Speaker
He's not.
00:18:02
Speaker
And that's fine, but I would like to have him.
00:18:06
Speaker
Yeah, but like, I think if he coaches football, he'll get divorced.
00:18:11
Speaker
And I don't think he wants to deal with the fallout of like whatever prenup he has after that fucking picture in Jacksonville or post-nup or agreement.
00:18:24
Speaker
Anyways.
00:18:24
Speaker
It's an adjudicably horrible take.
00:18:27
Speaker
Yeah, so that was our struggle session.
00:18:30
Speaker
Now what's... I have tickets to the game that you're selling these goddamn tickets right now.
00:18:35
Speaker
Dude, go to the fucking game, man.
00:18:36
Speaker
Go to the fucking game.
00:18:39
Speaker
If your girlfriend is listening to this, you're a fucking idiot.
00:18:44
Speaker
She wants to go.
00:18:46
Speaker
Oh, actually.
00:18:47
Speaker
Sorry, your fiance.
00:18:48
Speaker
By the way, by the way, by the way, congratulations are in order.
00:18:52
Speaker
Yes.
00:18:54
Speaker
no longer a girlfriend.
00:18:55
Speaker
Beyonce.
00:18:56
Speaker
Yes.
00:18:59
Speaker
The first of us on this podcast to put a ring on somebody else.
00:19:03
Speaker
Congratulations.
00:19:04
Speaker
Good job, James.
00:19:06
Speaker
Yeah, especially... If anyone's listening, my only advice to people who are proposing, first thing you got to do is five months before the actual proposal, get blackout drunk and proposed with no ring.
00:19:18
Speaker
And they'll buy it every time.
00:19:21
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I'm 36, and that's still probably pretty useful advice.
00:19:27
Speaker
All right.
00:19:29
Speaker
So, anyways, fuck Michigan.
00:19:32
Speaker
Those motherfuckers, I mean, they won the national championship.
00:19:36
Speaker
They won the national championship.
00:19:37
Speaker
I hate fucking saying it.
00:19:38
Speaker
But they're still going to be all up in Ryan's mentions going 49-0.
00:19:42
Speaker
I'm like, we're still underhanded.
00:19:45
Speaker
Like, I will say –
00:19:49
Speaker
Trouble with the snap.
00:19:51
Speaker
Trouble with the snap.
00:19:52
Speaker
Broke their fucking brains.
00:19:54
Speaker
How fucking sad of a human being do you have to be to let Harlan Barnett live rent-free in your fucking program after you won a national title?
00:20:02
Speaker
Like, dude, come on.
00:20:05
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:06
Speaker
All right.
00:20:07
Speaker
Well, moving on.
00:20:09
Speaker
Let's talk about why we're here.
00:20:11
Speaker
So it looks like the search is pretty much over.
New Coaching Announcements and Expectations
00:20:15
Speaker
I mean, all right.
00:20:15
Speaker
So not only is the search over, for those that have been living under a fucking rock, Jonathan Smith out of Oregon State is our next head coach.
00:20:25
Speaker
Actually, and current, whatever.
00:20:27
Speaker
I guess the term is current.
00:20:29
Speaker
And not only has he been hired since, well, we had the emergency pod, but the staff has been filled out.
00:20:36
Speaker
boys let's uh talk about both sides of the ball we'll talk a little bit about special teams or whatever if there's anything to talk about there but let's let's talk about both sides of the ball with his staff what do you guys think about the offensive staff uh i really really like the offensive line coach i'm not gonna even try to not pronounce his last name because i'll fuck it up again but uh
00:20:59
Speaker
Banafa.
00:21:01
Speaker
No, the offensive line coach.
00:21:04
Speaker
Not the running back.
00:21:05
Speaker
Mahalczyk?
00:21:06
Speaker
Yes.
00:21:08
Speaker
We love a good Polish offensive line coach.
00:21:12
Speaker
But yeah, he's produced some great players.
00:21:17
Speaker
He's going to have a guy who's going to go first round.
00:21:20
Speaker
I can't remember the dude's name, but he's going to go first round this year.
00:21:24
Speaker
Was like
00:21:26
Speaker
an unranked recruit or something.
00:21:32
Speaker
They were a lot of Joe Moore finalists in 22 or was it 21?
00:21:36
Speaker
So one of those two years.
00:21:39
Speaker
So, I mean, he's got a great track record.
00:21:42
Speaker
He brought in multiple guys that he had already committed to Oregon State and got them to flip to MSU.
00:21:49
Speaker
Brought Tanner Miller.
00:21:51
Speaker
Yeah, brought Tanner Miller.
00:21:52
Speaker
That's the big one.
00:21:54
Speaker
And he kept Geno Vandermark.
00:21:57
Speaker
And who else left the portal?
00:21:59
Speaker
Baldwin left the portal.
00:22:01
Speaker
Boyd.
00:22:02
Speaker
Boyd.
00:22:02
Speaker
That was the big one.
00:22:04
Speaker
I mean, he was able to retain most of the guys they wanted to keep.
00:22:07
Speaker
That snake oil salesman...
00:22:12
Speaker
rumor rumor the snake oil salesman the guy that fucking fooled us was apparently telling people to uh i don't know how true that was i don't know i don't think that's fair i'm not a fan of his at all but like i i don't think that that actually happened but um yeah i mean he was able to keep geno i mean everybody thought geno was going to go to oklahoma and he wound up yeah coming back to msu so that was a big win uh
00:22:38
Speaker
But, yeah, it's a big deal bringing back all these guys and obviously getting Tanner Miller, who's going to be – I mean, the offensive line is just upgraded.
00:22:48
Speaker
I mean, they were able to keep guys that they wanted to keep and bring in Miller.
00:22:53
Speaker
We'll see what happens in the spring or if they add anybody else on the line.
00:22:57
Speaker
But I think they've done a really good job retaining guys that they wanted to retain.
00:23:02
Speaker
And Tanner Miller obviously is a huge haul considering everybody in the country wanted him.
00:23:08
Speaker
I am excited about having a tight end and having, well, not only having a tight end, but well.
00:23:15
Speaker
A tight ends coach too.
00:23:17
Speaker
And a tight ends coach.
00:23:18
Speaker
Yeah.
00:23:18
Speaker
Yeah.
00:23:19
Speaker
This one, this name I can pronounce was the act.
00:23:22
Speaker
Rough one.
00:23:24
Speaker
Rough one.
00:23:25
Speaker
Very hard.
00:23:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:23:26
Speaker
And then a Jack velling the tight end transfer.
00:23:29
Speaker
Like, it's nice to have a tight end.
00:23:33
Speaker
Whose hands aren't covered in bacon grease.
00:23:36
Speaker
Yeah, who blocks?
00:23:37
Speaker
Marie Carr ate a football.
00:23:39
Speaker
I was going to say – I was going to say – I was going to say – I was literally about to say what you were about to say, they can catch a football.
00:23:48
Speaker
You could apply that to almost any tight end on the roster last year.
00:23:51
Speaker
Marie Carr couldn't catch a football because he had eight, like 15 big matches before a game.
00:23:55
Speaker
Either could Jalen Franklin.
00:23:57
Speaker
Who the hell is Jalen Franklin?
00:23:58
Speaker
Exactly.
00:24:01
Speaker
Exactly.
00:24:04
Speaker
Wasn't the Parachick kind of showed up at the end because he was a little bit of a blocker?
00:24:08
Speaker
He's going to be good.
00:24:09
Speaker
I like him.
00:24:10
Speaker
He's going to be good.
00:24:12
Speaker
But yeah.
00:24:14
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:24:15
Speaker
Shout out.
00:24:15
Speaker
We got a tight end.
00:24:18
Speaker
I mean... Washington really wanted him too.
00:24:22
Speaker
He's from Seattle.
00:24:23
Speaker
He's from here.
00:24:24
Speaker
Yeah, he's from here.
00:24:25
Speaker
But... Fuck yeah, man.
00:24:28
Speaker
And so...
00:24:30
Speaker
Yeah, I think Keith Bonafa, running back coach, I think he's also one of the special teams coordinators.
00:24:37
Speaker
Yeah, it sounds like it's going to be him and Wilt.
00:24:40
Speaker
We'll obviously get into him in a little bit.
00:24:41
Speaker
But, yeah, I mean, honestly, my takeaway from this was nothing can be worse than Ross Ells.
00:24:47
Speaker
So, yeah, automatically.
00:24:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:24:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:24:50
Speaker
How do you guys feel about Courtney Hawkins coming back?
00:24:53
Speaker
I know some people weren't super excited about it, but I've said from the beginning I wanted him to come back.
00:24:59
Speaker
So I'm happy he's coming back.
00:25:00
Speaker
I think that retaining him, you've got a Midwest guy, you've got a Spartan alum on the staff.
00:25:05
Speaker
I think that's a positive.
00:25:08
Speaker
And Nick Marsh loves Courtney Hawkins.
00:25:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:25:13
Speaker
And apparently he was one of the only guys on the old staff that was holding people accountable last year.
00:25:20
Speaker
So, yeah.
00:25:21
Speaker
Thanks for coming.
00:25:22
Speaker
I'm back.
00:25:23
Speaker
So next year he's going to have three wide receivers that he developed go to the NFL or be in the league already.
00:25:31
Speaker
And I don't know how much it did with Connor Hayward's development too.
00:25:35
Speaker
No, he doesn't get credit for him.
00:25:37
Speaker
He was tight.
00:25:37
Speaker
Is Naylor still on the Vikings?
00:25:40
Speaker
Yeah, he's still on the Vikings.
00:25:43
Speaker
But the point is, though, like, Courtney Hawkins is a nice track record.
00:25:46
Speaker
He's a holdover from the previous staff to hopefully get these guys some kind of guidance early on.
00:25:53
Speaker
He's a good wide receivers coach.
00:25:54
Speaker
He's a pretty good recruiter from what we've seen.
00:25:57
Speaker
I'm all for it.
00:26:01
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:03
Speaker
Sorry, he's the only guy on staff last year I'd have retained.
00:26:05
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:07
Speaker
And I'm glad they retained him.
00:26:08
Speaker
That was, like, a little bit of continuity.
00:26:11
Speaker
And I think some folks in the wide receiver room left.
00:26:17
Speaker
They were probably ones being held accountable by him, and they left, and others decided to stay, and that's great.
00:26:24
Speaker
I'm glad Montori Foster's back, Derron Glover's back.
00:26:29
Speaker
New regime.
00:26:32
Speaker
It sounds like most of the wide receivers are going to stick around.
00:26:35
Speaker
That's from what I –
00:26:37
Speaker
I think we lost Tyrell Henry and Christian Fitzpatrick.
00:26:41
Speaker
Fitz just wasn't... I mean, he wound up at Marshall.
00:26:45
Speaker
So, like, you know, that kind of tells you what you need to know.
00:26:48
Speaker
But, yeah, Tyrell Henry... I mean, I'm not one to get into, like, rumors and stuff.
00:26:54
Speaker
It sounds like he did... It was just not a fit with the new staff.
00:26:59
Speaker
And then the running back's room is, like, unchanged.
00:27:03
Speaker
Like, none of those guys transferred out, so...
00:27:05
Speaker
They're probably like, oh my God, offensive line?
00:27:07
Speaker
Let's fucking go.
00:27:10
Speaker
Yeah, I think Carter can have a big year.
00:27:13
Speaker
I think if you put a decent offensive line in front of him, he can put up decent numbers.
00:27:19
Speaker
Nick Carter?
00:27:20
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:21
Speaker
I think, like, I mean, if you have a decent offensive line, maybe, like, fucking even Jalen Berger could fucking maybe pick up a couple yards.
00:27:29
Speaker
Berger was good a couple years ago.
00:27:31
Speaker
He's more of a situational back, in my opinion, to be honest with you.
00:27:36
Speaker
Mangum's coming back, too, right?
00:27:37
Speaker
Yeah, he said he was coming back.
00:27:39
Speaker
Fuck yeah, dude.
00:27:40
Speaker
Yeah, he's like, oh, okay, we might have a running game next year.
00:27:47
Speaker
I wonder if Berger looked really good with
00:27:50
Speaker
Go ahead.
00:27:53
Speaker
I don't know if they're going to bring it.
00:27:54
Speaker
I wonder if they're going to bring anybody else in.
00:27:56
Speaker
I just don't.
00:27:58
Speaker
I guess you've got three dudes.
00:28:00
Speaker
Really?
00:28:01
Speaker
I mean, do you really need to bring in another guy from the portal?
00:28:05
Speaker
Because, I mean, they're bringing in the two.
00:28:07
Speaker
They're bringing in Mekhi Frazier.
00:28:09
Speaker
And who's the other guy?
00:28:09
Speaker
Toulis, a dude from Texas.
00:28:11
Speaker
Those are the two guys that brought in in this class.
00:28:14
Speaker
So, like, I don't know if you need to bring in another running back or not.
00:28:16
Speaker
But it may not be the worst idea of them.
00:28:18
Speaker
I don't know who's going to want to come here when you've got three guys who have had established playing time and they're sticking around.
00:28:24
Speaker
I don't know who's going to want to come.
00:28:26
Speaker
Two of those three guys look good behind a terrorist offensive line.
00:28:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:32
Speaker
I was thinking of guys who are bad fits for the staff.
00:28:34
Speaker
Thoughts on that Malik Carr tweet?
00:28:36
Speaker
Oh, my God, dude.
00:28:37
Speaker
Bye-bye.
00:28:39
Speaker
Bye-bye.
00:28:40
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not.
00:28:42
Speaker
Dude, it sucks because he's just so talented, man.
00:28:44
Speaker
Like, those Washington fans I was sitting next to at the game.
00:28:47
Speaker
They were like, tell me.
00:28:48
Speaker
I was like, why don't you guys throw the ball to him like literally every single play?
00:28:52
Speaker
I was like, I don't know, man.
00:28:55
Speaker
He dips his hands in like fucking bacon grease before every game.
00:28:59
Speaker
He does like a fucking... When he's locked in, though.
00:29:03
Speaker
He moisturizes.
00:29:04
Speaker
When he's locked in, though, he's so good.
00:29:06
Speaker
I mean, he should be an NFL player if he gave a shit about blocking.
00:29:12
Speaker
I love left tackle.
00:29:16
Speaker
he's not that big.
00:29:17
Speaker
Jesus Christ.
00:29:18
Speaker
It's only two.
00:29:19
Speaker
So the, the, the, the current coaching staff didn't want me.
00:29:25
Speaker
I'm like, cool.
00:29:27
Speaker
Way to validate way to like validate everything that has been said.
00:29:31
Speaker
Like, yeah, for the reference, the current coaching staff didn't want me.
00:29:35
Speaker
I'm like, apparently he told the old staff,
00:29:39
Speaker
when Mel got fired, he got a date with the old staff, and he said, FU, cut me if you want.
00:29:45
Speaker
It's like, seriously?
00:29:46
Speaker
Who the hell says that to somebody, man?
00:29:48
Speaker
Oh, man, that's an all-time fuck-around to find out.
00:29:50
Speaker
Yeah, good job, buddy.
00:29:52
Speaker
We're asking for it, and you wound up at Houston.
00:29:54
Speaker
So congratulations.
00:29:55
Speaker
You got your wish.
00:29:57
Speaker
All right, moving on.
00:29:58
Speaker
Let's talk some defense, boys.
00:30:01
Speaker
Joe Rossi.
00:30:03
Speaker
What do you guys think?
00:30:04
Speaker
I mean, I'm not like super psyched about it, but I don't think it's a bad hire by any means because like if you look at his track record, he's put what, like eight guys in the NFL since 19 or something like that is what the stat was.
00:30:17
Speaker
Minnesota's obviously not a place to recruit straight.
00:30:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:21
Speaker
I think, I mean, I think it's a solid hire, but it's not like I would have preferred somebody like Jimmy Lake over him or like obviously Bill Parker.
00:30:31
Speaker
That was like a pipe dream.
00:30:33
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:34
Speaker
I don't think it's a bad hire, though.
00:30:35
Speaker
I think it's a solid, like, you know, B-plus hire.
00:30:40
Speaker
First choice, only choice, best choice.
00:30:43
Speaker
Okay, BB.
00:30:44
Speaker
No, but like Ryan said, like, I'd rather have had Laker, like Bill Parker, but everyone who seems to know X's and O's and shit seems to be really high on Joe Rossi, so I can't really complain that much.
00:30:59
Speaker
Wasn't the other guy that people were talking about the dude that was at UCLA?
00:31:03
Speaker
Yeah, it was.
00:31:03
Speaker
The guy who ended up at USC?
00:31:05
Speaker
Went to USC.
00:31:06
Speaker
What the hell was that guy's name?
00:31:08
Speaker
I don't know who you're talking about, but.
00:31:09
Speaker
DeAnton Lin?
00:31:11
Speaker
Yeah, DeAnton Lin.
00:31:12
Speaker
He's trying to flip Jaden Walker because he didn't sign in the early signing period.
00:31:18
Speaker
He's trying to flip him.
00:31:19
Speaker
So, yeah.
00:31:21
Speaker
Wasn't Jaden?
00:31:21
Speaker
Jaden Walker was a dude that was originally committed to Toledo, right?
00:31:24
Speaker
Yeah, he flipped literally the day before Mel got fired.
00:31:28
Speaker
Oh, that's right.
00:31:29
Speaker
Yeah, and then USC wants him.
00:31:31
Speaker
Yeah, and wasn't Lincoln Riley visiting Pretzlaff?
00:31:35
Speaker
He flew into Michigan and went to Portage to go watch his basketball game.
00:31:39
Speaker
Yes.
00:31:40
Speaker
He came and visited him in person.
00:31:42
Speaker
So they're trying to flip Pretzlaff, too.
00:31:44
Speaker
Or they can't flip because he's already stuck.
00:31:46
Speaker
No, I don't think they were trying to flip Pretzlaff.
00:31:48
Speaker
They've been trying to get dudes out of Michigan.
00:31:50
Speaker
I think they flipped a dude that was committed to Colorado.
00:31:55
Speaker
Desmond Stevens or whatever the hell his name was.
00:31:57
Speaker
He plays at Clarkston, I think.
00:31:59
Speaker
And he wound up flipping USC.
00:32:00
Speaker
So, yeah, they're trying to recruit Michigan.
00:32:03
Speaker
And at this point, Lincoln Riley is desperate to get defensive players because they're just so bad on defense.
00:32:11
Speaker
You know you're down bad if you're recruiting Michigan.
00:32:14
Speaker
from California.
00:32:14
Speaker
Yeah, but these dudes are legitimately good players.
00:32:17
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:19
Speaker
I get what you're saying because the state of Michigan, like the talent level isn't what it was 10 years ago.
00:32:24
Speaker
But I mean, these are legitimately good players.
00:32:27
Speaker
And then the thing is like, if you look at good Michigan State defenses, and this is more like a vibes thing, but a good Michigan State defense has a linebacker from Northern Michigan in it.
00:32:38
Speaker
So factually true.
00:32:40
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:32:40
Speaker
Represent, baby.
00:32:44
Speaker
Have you ever heard of the legend of the MAGA trenches?
00:32:49
Speaker
Yes.
00:32:50
Speaker
Yes.
00:32:50
Speaker
And then the MAGA linebackers.
00:32:52
Speaker
I know.
00:32:53
Speaker
It's the same thing.
00:32:54
Speaker
Eric Gordon.
00:32:56
Speaker
Exactly.
00:32:58
Speaker
Eric Gordon.
00:32:58
Speaker
Eric Gordon went to school with my buddy.
00:33:01
Speaker
Yeah, he went to TC West.
00:33:02
Speaker
And then...
00:33:07
Speaker
Then you had the Bullas.
00:33:09
Speaker
They all went to St.
00:33:09
Speaker
Francis, right?
00:33:10
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:11
Speaker
The Bullas.
00:33:12
Speaker
And then Bachi was fucking a Bulla.
00:33:14
Speaker
No, he's from Ohio.
00:33:15
Speaker
He's from Ohio.
00:33:16
Speaker
Okay, but he's like in the Bulla family because he was like dating a Bulla, right?
00:33:20
Speaker
Yeah, he's married one, I'm pretty sure.
00:33:23
Speaker
Exactly.
00:33:23
Speaker
So like he's kind of given off that vibe.
00:33:26
Speaker
And like...
00:33:28
Speaker
Not Bocce.
00:33:31
Speaker
Reshky?
00:33:32
Speaker
Yeah, not Reshky.
00:33:33
Speaker
No.
00:33:33
Speaker
Reshky's from Macomb County.
00:33:36
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:33:37
Speaker
I don't think they've had any.
00:33:37
Speaker
I think those three are the old.
00:33:40
Speaker
Those four are the dudes.
00:33:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:41
Speaker
Cal Halliday tried to LARP as a Northern Michigan guy, but he's from Pennsylvania.
00:33:45
Speaker
That's why it didn't work.
00:33:48
Speaker
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
00:33:50
Speaker
But yeah, no, like if you need to have that Northern Michigan guy, that guy that you know would reliably vote for Donald Trump, may skip practice on January 6th.
00:34:03
Speaker
That's the kind of guy that you want in your linebacking corps.
00:34:07
Speaker
That's the kind of guy.
00:34:10
Speaker
Yeah, well, it is pretty funny, though.
00:34:13
Speaker
I don't know if you guys remember Travis Jackson.
00:34:16
Speaker
Yes, of course.
00:34:17
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:18
Speaker
He was definitely not MAGA.
00:34:21
Speaker
Oh, no.
00:34:21
Speaker
I follow him on Twitter.
00:34:24
Speaker
Yeah, he's not MAGA.
00:34:26
Speaker
He's not MAGA, but... Oh, Chris Fry.
00:34:31
Speaker
Chris Fry?
00:34:32
Speaker
Chris Fry?
00:34:33
Speaker
I don't know if he's MAGA.
00:34:34
Speaker
He's MAGA as hell, dude.
00:34:36
Speaker
He is MAGA?
00:34:38
Speaker
But, like...
00:34:40
Speaker
I like him because that guy was the energy of the 2017 defense.
00:34:44
Speaker
He was a good player.
00:34:46
Speaker
Very good player.
00:34:52
Speaker
I wasn't a fan of Riley Bola.
00:34:54
Speaker
I like Chris Fry a lot better.
00:34:55
Speaker
Bocce was on that team too.
00:34:59
Speaker
Yeah, he was.
00:35:00
Speaker
Fry and Bocce were on that team.
00:35:02
Speaker
Twins.
00:35:06
Speaker
The dowels, the dowels, the dowels.
00:35:09
Speaker
The dowels, the dowels, the panischicks.
00:35:13
Speaker
Weren't there three dowels?
00:35:15
Speaker
Yeah, Michael was literally still in college as he was playing for Miami of Ohio.
00:35:20
Speaker
He played for Tucker, didn't he?
00:35:23
Speaker
Yeah, he did.
00:35:24
Speaker
He got processed by Tucker's staff.
00:35:30
Speaker
And apparently his parents weren't very happy about it.
00:35:33
Speaker
I wouldn't be either, dude.
00:35:34
Speaker
Like, family fucking legacy.
00:35:36
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:37
Speaker
Just, yeah, this is, fuck Tucker, man.
00:35:39
Speaker
Nope.
00:35:40
Speaker
Yeah, you had the Dowls, you had the Panashooks.
00:35:43
Speaker
Fuck, who was the walk-on line D-end?
00:35:46
Speaker
What was his name?
00:35:47
Speaker
The other white guy.
00:35:48
Speaker
Willikis.
00:35:49
Speaker
Willikis.
00:35:50
Speaker
Willikis.
00:35:50
Speaker
That guy's probably Magga, right?
00:35:52
Speaker
Oh, yeah, probably.
00:35:54
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:55
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:35:56
Speaker
So like you, so like the first thing that fucking happens, Joe Rossi gets hired.
00:36:00
Speaker
We flip Pretzlav.
00:36:02
Speaker
Like that's a guy that you want going to Michigan state.
00:36:05
Speaker
You want like,
00:36:08
Speaker
a guy from Michigan, you want one of the better recruits in the state going to your state.
00:36:12
Speaker
And that's like, what's it happening with Tucker?
00:36:14
Speaker
And then, yeah, it's like, it just seems like it's going back to that identity of what we used to have.
00:36:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:21
Speaker
I mean, yeah, it's ridiculous.
00:36:23
Speaker
Tucker didn't offer, uh, and his staff didn't offer pretzlap until like mid August.
00:36:30
Speaker
I think it's like, shit, like there's no way.
00:36:34
Speaker
that with D'Antonio staff or even obviously even Smith staff now that he's not offer like earlier on, you know, so yeah, but they're clearly making inroads in the state.
00:36:45
Speaker
And I understand like, you don't want to exclusively make your team, Michigan recruits, but you want to get the, the good players that are good enough to play in the big 10 to come to SU.
00:36:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:57
Speaker
So rounded out, the staff gets rounded out with Blue Adams, which, mind you, that dude was like on the job for one fucking day.
00:37:05
Speaker
And he was already in people's houses with like an oversized Michigan State sweatshirt.
00:37:09
Speaker
Dude, did you see his hat?
00:37:11
Speaker
Yeah, that picky blinder looking hat.
00:37:13
Speaker
Yeah, that picky blinder looking hat.
00:37:15
Speaker
Like, it's like, that guy, oh my God, that guy is awesome.
00:37:19
Speaker
And he's a former lion.
00:37:20
Speaker
Former lion.
00:37:22
Speaker
Yeah, that's right.
00:37:23
Speaker
He did.
00:37:23
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:24
Speaker
Dude, that is wild.
00:37:25
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:26
Speaker
He, I like him like just based on vibes, honestly.
00:37:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:30
Speaker
Was he a D'Antonio player in Cincinnati?
00:37:32
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no.
00:37:34
Speaker
He never, he didn't play here, man.
00:37:36
Speaker
No, Cincinnati.
00:37:38
Speaker
No, he was before D'Antonio.
00:37:40
Speaker
He was like, I think a year or two before him.
00:37:42
Speaker
I think he played for BK.
00:37:44
Speaker
No.
00:37:44
Speaker
No, he was, no, he was.
00:37:46
Speaker
It was Jesse Minter's dad.
00:37:51
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:37:53
Speaker
No shit.
00:37:53
Speaker
Okay.
00:37:54
Speaker
Yeah, because BK came after D'Antonio.
00:37:56
Speaker
That's right.
00:37:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:01
Speaker
So, yeah, no, Blue Adams just like, I mean, that was actually pretty fucking cool.
00:38:07
Speaker
Seeing pictures of him already in people's houses.
00:38:11
Speaker
He went and visited Jet Denson, didn't he?
00:38:14
Speaker
Like, that was the first guy he went and saw?
00:38:16
Speaker
I think so.
00:38:17
Speaker
I can't remember, but he was already putting in work.
00:38:21
Speaker
Yo, heads up, Ryan.
00:38:22
Speaker
You got to stop calling Brian Kelly BK because I've already come up with a Whopper song with murder.
00:38:32
Speaker
Murder, murder, murder, murder, student videographers murdered.
00:38:38
Speaker
Heavy winds blowing, falling.
00:38:43
Speaker
I get sued this day.
00:38:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:46
Speaker
Oh, God.
00:38:48
Speaker
All right.
00:38:49
Speaker
So, yeah, Blue Adams...
00:38:52
Speaker
Gets to work immediately, which is pretty funny because he's already in people's houses while Harlan Barnett was rumored to be telling people he was still on the staff.
00:39:01
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:03
Speaker
Anyways, we'll get to that in a second.
00:39:05
Speaker
And then Leggy Suwanoa, he's the D-line coach, right?
00:39:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:13
Speaker
Because you know one that got kicked out, got literally escorted out of an Oregon State football building.
00:39:17
Speaker
That's what they said happened.
00:39:19
Speaker
But, like, what the fuck did they think was going to happen?
00:39:21
Speaker
He had told them he was coming here.
00:39:23
Speaker
Like, I don't understand why they got so scared.
00:39:26
Speaker
I hope that's actually what happened.
00:39:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:29
Speaker
Well, I mean, good for him.
00:39:31
Speaker
Yeah, what the fuck do you think he was going to do?
00:39:33
Speaker
Like, they're Mountain West now.
00:39:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:39
Speaker
They're like, players are, like, after the bowl game, players are still leaving, like,
00:39:43
Speaker
I don't know.
00:39:43
Speaker
Whatever.
00:39:45
Speaker
Who cares about them?
00:39:45
Speaker
And then Chad Wilt, the most recent hire, right?
00:39:47
Speaker
Because we haven't announced anybody to fill out the 10th spot.
00:39:51
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:52
Speaker
Like, Wilt, I don't know.
00:39:54
Speaker
It's a guy.
00:39:56
Speaker
I don't know.
00:39:57
Speaker
He's got defensive coordinator experience.
00:39:59
Speaker
I guess that's a good thing.
00:40:01
Speaker
He's a dude.
00:40:02
Speaker
He's probably 40.
00:40:06
Speaker
He's a younger guy.
00:40:07
Speaker
The staff isn't full of old...
00:40:13
Speaker
washed up guys like coach D handed them.
00:40:15
Speaker
Where the hell was Jim Bowman?
00:40:18
Speaker
I want Jim Bowman back on staff.
00:40:20
Speaker
Oh my God, please stop.
00:40:21
Speaker
All right.
00:40:24
Speaker
All right.
00:40:25
Speaker
So, and then we have one more opening.
00:40:26
Speaker
There's some names rumored around it, but I, I think it's probably, I think it's probably going to be another guy in the secondary.
00:40:33
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:34
Speaker
They made it sound like it was going to be a DB's coach.
00:40:37
Speaker
Okay.
00:40:38
Speaker
Oh yeah.
00:40:39
Speaker
So we have that opening.
00:40:42
Speaker
We had that opening, and especially in the DB role, because a certain person is not coming back.
00:40:48
Speaker
I'm going to give this one up to you, Zanjo, because I feel like you're – this is your guy.
00:40:57
Speaker
He's your guy.
00:40:58
Speaker
Harlan Barnett not coming back to staff.
00:41:02
Speaker
Tell me how you feel, Zanjo.
00:41:03
Speaker
So –
00:41:05
Speaker
It's weird, okay?
00:41:06
Speaker
So, like, I did not like him as a head coach.
00:41:09
Speaker
I did not like him as a defensive backs coach.
00:41:12
Speaker
He was a bad defensive coordinator.
00:41:14
Speaker
I didn't like him the second time around as a defensive backs coach.
00:41:17
Speaker
First time he was cool.
00:41:19
Speaker
He should not have had an on-field role at any point.
00:41:21
Speaker
Shame on him for even thinking he deserved an interview for the head coaching job.
00:41:27
Speaker
But I would not have hated to keep him around as an off-field guy.
00:41:32
Speaker
So I don't... I'm glad he's not on-field.
00:41:37
Speaker
I'm surprised if this is your take.
00:41:38
Speaker
I thought you were just going to rip him a new asshole.
00:41:41
Speaker
No, I mean, he's gone.
00:41:43
Speaker
The bad man's gone.
00:41:44
Speaker
There's no point.
00:41:46
Speaker
He is a good man.
00:41:48
Speaker
He's a good human being.
00:41:50
Speaker
He's a bad man.
00:41:53
Speaker
Say what you want about Arlen.
00:41:54
Speaker
He's a great dude.
00:41:57
Speaker
No, he's a 2-8 head football coach.
00:41:59
Speaker
Bad man.
00:42:03
Speaker
You are so unfair to him.
00:42:06
Speaker
I do wonder what the conversation with Alan was, with Alan Haller was like after the end, it's like, or near the final week with Alan already knowing that he's going to hire Smith.
00:42:19
Speaker
It's like Alan was just like treating Harlan like Dwight from the office.
00:42:24
Speaker
I mean, that's probably exactly what happened.
00:42:28
Speaker
I feel bad for him kind of like
00:42:31
Speaker
because he was delusional enough to think he was going to get the job.
00:42:35
Speaker
And that's just the type of person Harlan is, honestly.
00:42:37
Speaker
Like, he's just – Yeah, I'm sorry, buddy, but it's not 2000.
00:42:41
Speaker
It's not 2000.
00:42:42
Speaker
You're not succeeding Nick Saban.
00:42:44
Speaker
Yeah, like, I felt kind of bad for him.
00:42:47
Speaker
And I like Harlan as a human being.
00:42:49
Speaker
I think he's a great dude.
00:42:50
Speaker
Yeah, sorry.
00:42:53
Speaker
One more reason why he's not a great dude is the picture he took with Dr. Sparty Mike's hat.
00:43:00
Speaker
What?
00:43:01
Speaker
You didn't like the big hat?
00:43:02
Speaker
Come on, man.
00:43:03
Speaker
I like the big hat, man.
00:43:07
Speaker
I'm going to send that to Mike.
00:43:11
Speaker
I'm clipping that shit and sending it to him.
00:43:13
Speaker
He knows I hate it, too.
00:43:16
Speaker
I know he does.
00:43:18
Speaker
I kind of like it because he leans into the fact I hate it.
00:43:22
Speaker
I think it's hilarious.
00:43:25
Speaker
I like it more than the helmet.
00:43:27
Speaker
No, the helmet's great.
00:43:28
Speaker
You can always face mask it.
00:43:29
Speaker
That's true.
00:43:30
Speaker
When you're drunk, grabbing his face mask is kind of fun, but yeah.
00:43:34
Speaker
But anyways, we're totally going on a fucking tangent here, but yeah.
00:43:39
Speaker
I actually zoned out for a second.
00:43:41
Speaker
I totally like, I like Harlan as a human.
00:43:46
Speaker
He's a good person, but I am not upset by any means that he's not on the new staff.
00:43:53
Speaker
It's kind of sad in a way because I feel bad for him, but
00:43:58
Speaker
Him being an on-field coach was probably not a great idea.
00:44:01
Speaker
So, you know, I hope he finds somewhere where he gets, like, a position job.
00:44:06
Speaker
It's probably going to be a non-powered conference job.
00:44:09
Speaker
But I personally wish Harlan Barnett well.
00:44:13
Speaker
I hope he finds success somewhere else.
00:44:15
Speaker
Yeah, I wish him well, too, at, like, Grand Valley or Ferris or something.
00:44:23
Speaker
He's got experience, but clearly, I think when he went to Florida State, that changed him.
00:44:31
Speaker
I don't know.
00:44:32
Speaker
He hasn't recovered from that Florida State.
00:44:33
Speaker
I don't think it was that as much as it was that D'Antonio is just one of the greatest defensive backscroaches of all time.
00:44:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:42
Speaker
I think he covered up a lot of flaws for a lot of defensive coaches.
00:44:45
Speaker
I don't think Mike Trussell is some great defensive coordinator either.
00:44:48
Speaker
Narduzzi is kind of a fraud.
00:44:53
Speaker
Basically what you were saying is like D'Antonio was the brain of the defense and the other guys were instead of like them having operational independence they were more so like executive officers executing his commands.
00:45:08
Speaker
They benefited a lot from D'Antonio's coaching for sure.
00:45:13
Speaker
No doubt.
00:45:13
Speaker
I would say which like I mean
00:45:17
Speaker
Yeah, we need to mention that
Staff Changes and Rivalry Dynamics
00:45:20
Speaker
too.
00:45:20
Speaker
Yeah, Hall of Famer.
00:45:21
Speaker
Congratulations to Coach D for making the Hall of Fame.
00:45:23
Speaker
Well deserved.
00:45:24
Speaker
By the way, I was thinking about this.
00:45:26
Speaker
Like of all of his years, which year was his best staff?
00:45:29
Speaker
I know we won the Rose Bowl in 2013.
00:45:32
Speaker
I know we won the Rose Bowl in 2013.
00:45:35
Speaker
Probably 14, right?
00:45:37
Speaker
Maybe early on.
00:45:38
Speaker
No, 14 at Dave Warner on staff.
00:45:40
Speaker
I think, like, I was going to say... Probably, like, 10.
00:45:41
Speaker
Yeah, I was going to say it was 2010.
00:45:42
Speaker
Because, like, he, like, Treadwell...
00:45:51
Speaker
made that offense do things despite not having a great offensive line.
00:45:56
Speaker
Rouchard was a horrible offensive coordinator, but he was a hell of an offensive line coach.
00:46:01
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:01
Speaker
Say what you want about Dave Warner is an offensive coordinator.
00:46:04
Speaker
He's one of the worst I've ever seen, but he was also actually a decent quarterbacks coach.
00:46:09
Speaker
So I would have to agree with 2010.
00:46:12
Speaker
That entire staff is just case study on the Peter principle, man.
00:46:15
Speaker
Holy shit.
00:46:18
Speaker
The position coach, yeah, it's the idea you fail upwards until you fail completely.
00:46:22
Speaker
Speaking of coaches, I cannot believe somebody gave Jay Johnson a fucking defensive, a Division I fucking offensive.
00:46:30
Speaker
Wyoming.
00:46:31
Speaker
Wyoming.
00:46:32
Speaker
How?
00:46:32
Speaker
How the fuck did he get another offensive coordinator Division I job?
00:46:37
Speaker
Like, I do not get it.
00:46:39
Speaker
Seriously?
00:46:40
Speaker
Do you know who else coached at Wyoming?
00:46:44
Speaker
Joe Tiller?
00:46:45
Speaker
Scotty Hazleton.
00:46:47
Speaker
That's right.
00:46:48
Speaker
Hazleton coached.
00:46:49
Speaker
He was the DC there.
00:46:50
Speaker
Forgot about that.
00:46:52
Speaker
That's right.
00:46:54
Speaker
He was there with somebody.
00:46:57
Speaker
Who the fuck was he there?
00:46:59
Speaker
Was he there for early bowl?
00:47:01
Speaker
Yeah, he was there with bowl, but there's somebody on MSU staff, I think, that was coaching at Wyoming at the time.
00:47:05
Speaker
Who was it?
00:47:07
Speaker
I can't remember, but I thought I saw somewhere.
00:47:09
Speaker
No, it was Clyman.
00:47:11
Speaker
Wasn't it?
00:47:11
Speaker
Clyman coached at NDSU and went straight to KSU.
00:47:16
Speaker
Okay, I can't go to the guy with a while.
00:47:18
Speaker
Yeah, because Hazleton coached at Kansas State for a year.
00:47:25
Speaker
But yeah, I cannot believe that dude got a Division I OC job.
00:47:30
Speaker
That is just amazing to me.
00:47:31
Speaker
And before Hazleton, too.
00:47:33
Speaker
As much as I hate on Coach Kapp, I was not super surprised he found a Power 5 job because he's just a really good recruiter.
00:47:40
Speaker
He's just like, but...
00:47:43
Speaker
Yeah, but Baylor's sinking.
00:47:44
Speaker
Aranda's not going to be there for a long time.
00:47:46
Speaker
Oh, yeah, Aranda's gone.
00:47:47
Speaker
Unless they win eight games, he's going to get fired.
00:47:50
Speaker
He's gone.
00:47:52
Speaker
Off topic, because you mentioned Hazleton, when I saw what UW's defensive coordinator looked like last night, I'm like, they're fucked.
00:48:00
Speaker
Dude, I thought the same thing.
00:48:02
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:48:03
Speaker
Yes.
00:48:05
Speaker
I have watched a one-quarter football since Thanksgiving, so I have no idea.
00:48:09
Speaker
Yeah, just go Google University of Washington defensive coordinator.
00:48:13
Speaker
I apparently hate my life because I've watched a lot of football over the last month.
00:48:18
Speaker
I've watched three quarters of football since the Michigan State-Michigan game.
00:48:23
Speaker
College football.
00:48:24
Speaker
I've watched a bunch of Lions games.
00:48:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:28
Speaker
And I still want the Rams to win.
00:48:30
Speaker
I'm apparently a masochist, so, you know, I hate myself.
00:48:35
Speaker
And I watched almost that entire game last night and was very mad.
00:48:39
Speaker
Yeah, Chuck Morrill.
00:48:42
Speaker
Holy shit.
00:48:42
Speaker
Yeah, his beard is, yeah.
00:48:45
Speaker
Not great.
00:48:46
Speaker
All right, we've gone off on a little bit of a tangent.
00:48:48
Speaker
The rest of the staff, I didn't really put any names down, but we got basically fired all of the support staff and hired new people.
00:48:58
Speaker
Bye-bye!
00:48:59
Speaker
I mean, I don't know.
00:49:00
Speaker
I don't really want to revel in, like, people losing their jobs, but, like,
00:49:04
Speaker
A lot, I bet you a lot of the folks that were on the old staff were there for the vibes.
00:49:08
Speaker
I mean, it was a vibes-based organization.
00:49:12
Speaker
Do you mean sleeping with Tucker?
00:49:14
Speaker
What do you mean by vibes there?
00:49:15
Speaker
Like, shit like driving around the fucking, whoever drives around that thing.
00:49:21
Speaker
Sleeping with Tucker?
00:49:24
Speaker
Driving around, what's the other rumor?
00:49:25
Speaker
Slingshot.
00:49:27
Speaker
What was, yeah, Slingshot.
00:49:29
Speaker
Mel was driving that thing around.
00:49:31
Speaker
It wasn't nobody else.
00:49:31
Speaker
It was Mel that was driving around.
00:49:33
Speaker
No, that's the other rumor, though.
00:49:34
Speaker
He was sleeping with the shooting staffers.
00:49:36
Speaker
Ugh, alright.
00:49:38
Speaker
Dude, shut the fuck up.
00:49:40
Speaker
Yeah, so... So... Yeah, when's the Slingshot gonna show up at the surplus store?
00:49:48
Speaker
Bro, that's what I'm... Dude, I... One of my friends tweeted that a couple weeks ago.
00:49:54
Speaker
They're like, dude, what happened to the Slingshot?
00:49:55
Speaker
I'm like, fuck, I don't know.
00:49:56
Speaker
That's a great question.
00:49:58
Speaker
Might end up – yeah.
00:49:59
Speaker
So – and then we got a new strength and conditioning coach too, so.
00:50:03
Speaker
Thank God.
00:50:04
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:50:05
Speaker
I'm so happy we got a new SEC coach.
00:50:07
Speaker
Novak wound up at some G5 school.
00:50:10
Speaker
I think it was Charlotte or some shit, but – I thought, like – I remember when Novak came in, people – like, we were, like, excited about it, but I guess it's because, like, he brought iPads in compared to Ken Manning.
00:50:22
Speaker
It's because he – I love Coach Manning, man, but his –
00:50:26
Speaker
His way of doing things was it was time to move on.
00:50:30
Speaker
Do you remember the very first thing?
00:50:34
Speaker
Who was the Allen brother on that team?
00:50:37
Speaker
Which one?
00:50:37
Speaker
Which team?
00:50:39
Speaker
The 2020 team.
00:50:40
Speaker
Oh, it was Matt.
00:50:41
Speaker
It was the youngest one.
00:50:42
Speaker
Do you remember what he said about when Jason Novak came in?
00:50:45
Speaker
About how Jason Novak was revolutionizing the strength game because he had his team stretch?
00:50:51
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:50:51
Speaker
I remember that.
00:50:52
Speaker
I forgot about that.
00:50:53
Speaker
Holy shit.
00:50:54
Speaker
That was like...
00:50:57
Speaker
Jesus Christ.
00:50:58
Speaker
That's my point is basically the bars on the floor with Novak.
00:51:01
Speaker
Yeah, that's true.
00:51:03
Speaker
I love coach Manny, man.
00:51:04
Speaker
He's a great human being, but like, yeah, it was time to move on.
00:51:10
Speaker
But I didn't really do much because there were still 50,000 injuries every fucking year under this old staff.
00:51:18
Speaker
So like, didn't really matter, but yeah, like,
00:51:21
Speaker
I'm, I'm, I'm, I apparently Oregon state fans loved this strength and conditioning coach.
00:51:27
Speaker
Well, I mean, they loved him before Thanksgiving the day I have a fucking traitor.
00:51:33
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:34
Speaker
Dude.
00:51:34
Speaker
I saw him sitting next to coach Smith at, at one of the basketball games.
00:51:40
Speaker
That dude is fucking ripped, dude.
00:51:42
Speaker
I was like, holy shit.
00:51:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:47
Speaker
he would beat the shit out of Juwan but yeah yeah
00:51:54
Speaker
All right.
00:51:54
Speaker
So cool.
00:51:55
Speaker
Like I like the staff.
00:51:56
Speaker
I like, I like what they're doing.
00:51:58
Speaker
I like the vibes coming out of it.
00:52:00
Speaker
I like the hitting the ground, running the working, like they're, they're less, less flash.
00:52:06
Speaker
Just like, just straight to it.
00:52:07
Speaker
Like I've not even fucking checked into the graduate hotel.
00:52:11
Speaker
I'm already in a recruits house.
00:52:15
Speaker
Like the, the ink isn't even dry on my contract.
00:52:18
Speaker
I haven't officially been named.
00:52:20
Speaker
I'm already recruiting.
00:52:21
Speaker
Like this, this is like,
00:52:23
Speaker
Like, I...
00:52:25
Speaker
It seems like it's less talk and more action.
00:52:28
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, you look at... I'm sure you guys saw that picture the other day of Coach Smith with all the incoming transfers and the recruits.
00:52:37
Speaker
Dude's wearing fucking jeans.
00:52:40
Speaker
That are too long!
00:52:41
Speaker
Their jeans that are too long!
00:52:43
Speaker
I was like, this is like the perfect coach to have for the last half.
00:52:48
Speaker
He's wearing jeans that are too long.
00:52:51
Speaker
Jeans that are too long and like Birkenstocks.
00:52:53
Speaker
I love it.
00:52:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:56
Speaker
The guy's like, he's dressed all for him.
00:52:59
Speaker
No, all, all, all function.
00:53:01
Speaker
No form.
00:53:03
Speaker
I might get roasted for this take too, but I kind of missed the flash.
00:53:08
Speaker
For real.
00:53:09
Speaker
He is.
00:53:10
Speaker
It's, it's perfect.
00:53:11
Speaker
And like, it, I don't get me wrong, man.
00:53:16
Speaker
The shit that Tucker was doing after the 21 season.
00:53:18
Speaker
Like I was like, this shit's cool.
00:53:19
Speaker
Like it was, it's cool if you win, but dude, if you're getting your ass kicked.
00:53:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:23
Speaker
Like it doesn't work.
00:53:26
Speaker
My one thing with the staff, and they haven't had a chance to prove it yet, but I kind of want to see how they do with recruiting higher-ranked high schooler players.
00:53:38
Speaker
That's really my only, I don't know, like, question with them, I guess.
00:53:44
Speaker
It sounded like he was making a good impression on kids in the state already.
00:53:47
Speaker
So, I mean, I understand, like, that doesn't apply.
00:53:52
Speaker
Like, cause it sounds like they're trying to get that quarterback from Ohio to come in, Ryan Montgomery for like, they're already trying to get him up for a visit.
00:54:00
Speaker
And he had like no interest in MSU with old staff.
00:54:05
Speaker
So what?
00:54:08
Speaker
Other than high grade prostitutes, who would?
00:54:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:12
Speaker
Fair.
00:54:14
Speaker
Nobody with a brain should want to play for Jay Johnson.
00:54:16
Speaker
So yeah.
00:54:17
Speaker
And then y'all remember, y'all remember the last time we had a quarterback from Ohio?
00:54:22
Speaker
Was that Connor Cook?
00:54:24
Speaker
Yep.
00:54:25
Speaker
Was that Tyler O'Connor?
00:54:26
Speaker
Tyler O'Connor.
00:54:27
Speaker
No.
00:54:28
Speaker
Well, he'd be in Ohio State.
00:54:30
Speaker
The Zion Weaver.
00:54:32
Speaker
The Zion Weaver.
00:54:35
Speaker
Dude, I'm just imagining the 2022 football building basically just being like that scene from Wolf of Wall Street.
00:54:42
Speaker
Where John Dean's fucking goldfish.
00:54:47
Speaker
Oh, man.
00:54:48
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know.
00:54:49
Speaker
I...
00:54:51
Speaker
I like this staff.
00:54:52
Speaker
I'm so far.
00:54:53
Speaker
I like what I'm seeing so far.
00:54:55
Speaker
I mean, anecdotal, like a side story, like my, my buddy who is from TC, he actually works down in North Carolina as an athletic director at a high school.
00:55:07
Speaker
And he just like tweeted at the football staff and it's like, Hey, we got a lot of talent in North Carolina, blah, blah, blah.
00:55:16
Speaker
Excited to see whatever.
00:55:18
Speaker
And then next day, Coach Smith calls him.
00:55:21
Speaker
Oh shit.
00:55:23
Speaker
That's awesome.
00:55:24
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:24
Speaker
Calls him.
00:55:25
Speaker
He's like, Hey, if you see anybody that you want us to look at, just let us know.
00:55:28
Speaker
I'm working up here in Michigan.
00:55:30
Speaker
Hope to get down there sometime.
00:55:31
Speaker
But if you have anybody that you think would be good up here, just let me know.
00:55:36
Speaker
That's awesome.
00:55:36
Speaker
I love that.
00:55:37
Speaker
That's really cool, man.
00:55:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:41
Speaker
Yeah, like seriously, it seems like they're just hitting the ground.
00:55:45
Speaker
I was reading on the message board today.
00:55:46
Speaker
I don't know if you guys saw it, but it sounds like they're just not promising a ton of NIL money to people like the old staff did, and they're just selling the program.
00:55:59
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:56:00
Speaker
That reminds me of one more thing I'd like to see from the staff.
00:56:04
Speaker
I need them to up the toxicity in the Michigan rivalry even more.
00:56:08
Speaker
That is, yeah, that's one thing that kind of worries me.
00:56:11
Speaker
Like, obviously, I think keeping Hawkins helps with that.
00:56:15
Speaker
Make it more toxic than it's ever been.
00:56:17
Speaker
I want another health tunnel gate.
00:56:18
Speaker
Fuck this shit.
00:56:19
Speaker
Holy fucking shit.
00:56:23
Speaker
I want that.
00:56:24
Speaker
No, I want the toxicity in the rivalry that existed in D'Antonio, where it's like, it's so toxic.
00:56:30
Speaker
Oh, yeah, but you win, though.
00:56:32
Speaker
Well, yeah, you win, and then you could tell that the coach hated them.
00:56:36
Speaker
Whereas the toxicity in the Tucker era is like, the players are just doing dumbass shit, and the coach is just throwing them under the bus and just not really being into it.
00:56:48
Speaker
Whereas D'Antonio, it was organized, focused toxicity.
00:56:52
Speaker
Here's the difference between those two guys, though.
00:56:55
Speaker
It's that one had control over his team, and the other guy didn't.
00:56:59
Speaker
Well, yeah, the other guy didn't have control over his dick.
00:57:02
Speaker
So if you don't have control over his dick, if you don't have control over your dick, what are you going to control?
00:57:07
Speaker
Right?
00:57:09
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:10
Speaker
So where am I?
00:57:14
Speaker
Like, yeah, I'm excited about the staff.
00:57:16
Speaker
They're putting in the work.
00:57:19
Speaker
I mean, sounds like we're selling the program.
00:57:23
Speaker
We're not dumping NIL.
00:57:25
Speaker
I mean, with some exceptions.
00:57:26
Speaker
Dude, there are multiple players on last year's team, and one of them is gone.
00:57:32
Speaker
He got kicked off the team in the middle of the year.
00:57:33
Speaker
And I'm pretty sure if anybody with a brain knows who I'm talking about, that they follow MSU football.
00:57:39
Speaker
But they paid this dude, who's apparently making almost more money than anybody on the team.
00:57:45
Speaker
And he was just a fucking complete – he was a complete locker room cancer.
00:57:49
Speaker
That was the type of money – that's the type of player that the snap throw money out of the board.
00:57:53
Speaker
You know, every time you hear stories like that, I'm kind of glad that SD4 all took a little bit of a break.
00:57:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:00
Speaker
I mean, I get it's not a great look, but they were able to, you know, obviously kind of smooth things over because they were able to keep guys like Jordan Hall –
00:58:11
Speaker
I mean, so obviously things aren't as dire as people thought they would be.
00:58:15
Speaker
So that's a good.
00:58:17
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:17
Speaker
They need to reevaluate some shit.
00:58:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:20
Speaker
So anyways, we are here with hope and with hope means that we can just make stupid ass predictions.
00:58:26
Speaker
So looking at the schedule next year, I'm moving on to the next segment.
00:58:31
Speaker
So like, let's talk about how we think the staff, this team will do in their first year for reference.
00:58:41
Speaker
D'Antonio came in and a 4-8 – took over a 4-8 team and took us to 7-5.
00:58:50
Speaker
7-6 if you count the bowl game.
00:58:54
Speaker
Tucker came in, took over a 7-6 team and went 2-3.
00:58:58
Speaker
2-4.
00:58:58
Speaker
2-5.
00:58:59
Speaker
I'm going to hit you in Northwestern.
00:59:02
Speaker
Yeah, he beat the ranked teams on the – Yeah.
00:59:11
Speaker
But God damn it.
00:59:13
Speaker
By the way, that Michigan game in 2020 is the reason they started cheating.
00:59:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:59:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:59:21
Speaker
That was sob's take.
00:59:22
Speaker
That was sob's take.
00:59:23
Speaker
So I remember sob tweeting like Rocky Lombardi and Ricky white.
00:59:29
Speaker
destroyed, like changed the direction of Michigan's program forever.
00:59:34
Speaker
That is correct.
00:59:36
Speaker
He's right.
00:59:37
Speaker
I'm dying on that hill.
00:59:39
Speaker
I actually kind of agree with that.
Season Predictions and Strategic Discussions
00:59:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:59:43
Speaker
So anyways, let's look at like the next year's schedule.
00:59:45
Speaker
So we got Florida Atlantic at Maryland, the Raging Cajuns at home, at Boston College, Ohio State at home, at Oregon, Iowa at home, at Michigan, Indiana at home,
00:59:59
Speaker
At Illinois, Purdue at home, Rutgers at home.
01:00:04
Speaker
Let's start off with Florida Atlantic.
01:00:06
Speaker
What do you guys think?
01:00:07
Speaker
Can I caveat this, please?
01:00:10
Speaker
Because I don't know who's going to be added to the roster and who's going to leave.
01:00:15
Speaker
This can obviously change, but yeah, that's a win.
01:00:18
Speaker
All right.
01:00:19
Speaker
At Maryland.
01:00:21
Speaker
Lean loss.
01:00:22
Speaker
Win.
01:00:23
Speaker
They don't have a quarterback.
01:00:24
Speaker
Who's their QB?
01:00:25
Speaker
Their backup head team.
01:00:27
Speaker
Who's our quarterback?
01:00:29
Speaker
That's the other question.
01:00:29
Speaker
Who's our quarterback?
01:00:31
Speaker
Aiden Childs.
01:00:34
Speaker
Aiden Childs.
01:00:37
Speaker
I'm going to say lean loss right now just because they got talent across the roster.
01:00:42
Speaker
It's badly coached and we can still win that game, but it's game two for Jonathan Smith.
01:00:52
Speaker
And they just ripped apart Auburn.
01:00:56
Speaker
Fuck you, Peyton Thorne.
01:00:57
Speaker
I'm sorry.
01:00:58
Speaker
Ripping for honor this year means nothing.
01:01:00
Speaker
And you mentioned a little bit better against them.
01:01:02
Speaker
Yeah.
01:01:03
Speaker
Also, yeah, they don't have a QB because Talia.
01:01:08
Speaker
Tua's transferred.
01:01:09
Speaker
Talia, yeah.
01:01:10
Speaker
Maybe Tua hit the pool.
01:01:11
Speaker
How has he still got eligibility?
01:01:13
Speaker
That is a great question.
01:01:15
Speaker
I do not know.
01:01:15
Speaker
That has been called for as long as Boo Boo he has.
01:01:17
Speaker
That's what I'm saying.
01:01:19
Speaker
Yeah, it's like medical red shirts and then COVID year and then regular red shirts, right?
01:01:24
Speaker
Fucking insane.
01:01:25
Speaker
It's really... Those are three extra years of college.
01:01:28
Speaker
Like, is he doing a PhD or something?
01:01:30
Speaker
I'm pretty sure if he knocked up a girl's freshman year of college, that kid would be able to legally drink right now.
01:01:37
Speaker
All right, moving on.
01:01:39
Speaker
Louisiana, Rage Occasions.
01:01:41
Speaker
Win.
01:01:42
Speaker
Yeah.
01:01:42
Speaker
At Boston College.
01:01:44
Speaker
Lean win.
01:01:45
Speaker
Yeah, we do...
01:01:47
Speaker
So in the first quarter of the season, we're probably 3-1.
01:01:53
Speaker
3-1, closer to 4-0.
01:01:54
Speaker
Yeah, okay.
01:01:54
Speaker
3-1 is the most likely.
01:01:55
Speaker
4-0 is the second most likely.
01:01:57
Speaker
2-0 is the third most.
01:02:03
Speaker
All right, now we get into the hard part of the schedule.
01:02:05
Speaker
Lost, lost.
01:02:07
Speaker
Yeah, Ohio State.
01:02:08
Speaker
Lost, lost, lost.
01:02:10
Speaker
Al, big Al.
01:02:11
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At Oregon, big Al.
01:02:12
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Al.
01:02:13
Speaker
Al, Al.
01:02:14
Speaker
Iowa.
01:02:15
Speaker
Bi-week first.
01:02:16
Speaker
Bi-week, bi-week.
01:02:19
Speaker
So going into the bi-week, going into the bi-week, we're sitting at 4-2 or 3-3.
01:02:23
Speaker
Yeah, I got us 3-3.
01:02:23
Speaker
4-2 feels a lot better than 3-3.
01:02:29
Speaker
I think it's four and two.
01:02:31
Speaker
I actually disagree.
01:02:32
Speaker
And I don't think it feels that much different because I'm looking at, we'll get to November later, but yeah.
01:02:38
Speaker
All right.
01:02:39
Speaker
Let's get to, all right.
01:02:40
Speaker
So we come back from the bye week.
01:02:41
Speaker
We have Iowa at home.
01:02:43
Speaker
Lean win.
01:02:44
Speaker
Win.
01:02:45
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:46
Speaker
Lean win.
01:02:47
Speaker
And then at Michigan.
01:02:48
Speaker
Loss.
01:02:49
Speaker
LL.
01:02:50
Speaker
What was Sterker saying about us beating Michigan today?
01:02:53
Speaker
Dude, would you honestly be shocked if we won that game?
01:02:57
Speaker
Yes, I would.
01:02:58
Speaker
Who was talking about what?
01:03:01
Speaker
One of our buddies was talking about how we're going to win that game.
01:03:04
Speaker
One of our friends.
01:03:07
Speaker
I wouldn't be shocked if we won that game, man.
01:03:09
Speaker
I wouldn't be.
01:03:11
Speaker
Let's see who's left on their roster.
01:03:12
Speaker
Yeah, who's on their roster?
01:03:14
Speaker
Who's their head coach?
01:03:16
Speaker
It just depends on what happens.
01:03:18
Speaker
I mean, I wouldn't be totally shocked if we won that game.
01:03:21
Speaker
I would say if we're going into Michigan 4-2, or not 4-2, if we're going to Michigan 5-2.
01:03:24
Speaker
Or 4-3.
01:03:25
Speaker
Either way, I'm okay with that.
01:03:26
Speaker
Or 4-3, yeah.
01:03:26
Speaker
4-3, 5-2, like...
01:03:36
Speaker
Coming off a win against Iowa, maybe, but it's L. It's an L right now.
01:03:42
Speaker
I'm leading a loss.
01:03:43
Speaker
Yeah, I'm leading a loss.
01:03:44
Speaker
I'm not saying it's a guaranteed L. Yeah.
01:03:49
Speaker
So, we're at five and so one, two, so I ended the second quarter.
01:03:55
Speaker
You got a five and three, four and four.
01:03:58
Speaker
Yeah, five and three, four and four.
01:04:01
Speaker
All right, so then Indiana win.
01:04:02
Speaker
Yeah, win.
01:04:06
Speaker
How do you guys feel about Signetti?
01:04:08
Speaker
I like that either.
01:04:11
Speaker
I think that's a great hire.
01:04:14
Speaker
What?
01:04:15
Speaker
He's bringing in good players.
01:04:19
Speaker
You got Tyler Cherry.
01:04:22
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:25
Speaker
Honestly, what does Indiana have to lose?
01:04:27
Speaker
Obviously, I don't think it would have been a good hire here because he's, what, 62, 63?
01:04:32
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:33
Speaker
Indiana, what do you have to lose, right?
01:04:36
Speaker
I mean, you had Tom Allen for a while, so whatever.
01:04:40
Speaker
So, Indiana, W, at Illinois.
01:04:44
Speaker
I'm W. Alpha by two.
01:04:48
Speaker
We have another by week?
01:04:49
Speaker
Holy shit.
01:04:51
Speaker
Oh, shit.
01:04:52
Speaker
My birthday is right in between those two weeks.
01:04:54
Speaker
I'm going to have a birthday party and not worry about losing.
01:05:00
Speaker
Honestly, so that weekend, right?
01:05:02
Speaker
Since 2014, anytime I've had a birthday party for my birthday, Michigan State has lost that day.
01:05:08
Speaker
Oh, so you're the reason to watch a loss against Ohio State.
01:05:11
Speaker
Your fault.
01:05:12
Speaker
Yup, so 2014 Ohio State, 2015 Nebraska, 2016 it was 2016.
01:05:15
Speaker
Maryland.
01:05:15
Speaker
2016 it was 2017.
01:05:16
Speaker
Yeah, 2017, who did we play that year?
01:05:17
Speaker
Northwestern.
01:05:18
Speaker
Yeah, it was Ohio State.
01:05:19
Speaker
It was Ohio State.
01:05:27
Speaker
Yeah, 2018 Ohio State, I think, again.
01:05:30
Speaker
2019, it doesn't matter.
01:05:31
Speaker
Like, we've always lost that weekend.
01:05:33
Speaker
So, now we have a bye week.
01:05:35
Speaker
Yeah.
01:05:37
Speaker
Yeah.
01:05:39
Speaker
So, win at Illinois, have a bye week.
01:05:42
Speaker
Dope.
01:05:44
Speaker
Purdue, at home.
01:05:45
Speaker
Win.
01:05:45
Speaker
Win.
01:05:46
Speaker
Win.
01:05:47
Speaker
And do you think –
01:05:52
Speaker
What's it called?
01:05:53
Speaker
Do you think Coach Smith, Jonathan Smith, will be the first coach in Michigan State history to beat Rutgers in his first season?
01:06:02
Speaker
Yes.
01:06:03
Speaker
Yes.
01:06:05
Speaker
All right.
01:06:07
Speaker
So, we have – is that right?
01:06:12
Speaker
I got eight and four.
01:06:13
Speaker
You guys got nine and three.
01:06:14
Speaker
Jesus Christ.
01:06:15
Speaker
How the fuck did we get to nine with heads?
01:06:19
Speaker
Fuck.
01:06:19
Speaker
Okay, so –
01:06:21
Speaker
It's an easy schedule.
01:06:23
Speaker
Yeah.
01:06:23
Speaker
It's an easy schedule.
01:06:24
Speaker
And that's why I said Maryland's a lean loss, by the way.
01:06:26
Speaker
Yeah.
01:06:27
Speaker
I can't come.
01:06:29
Speaker
I think Maryland.
01:06:30
Speaker
Yeah, Maryland, of the other mid and bottom tier programs, like Maryland is the one that I can see us most likely losing because like.
01:06:43
Speaker
Sorry, go ahead.
01:06:44
Speaker
Yeah, no, I agree.
01:06:46
Speaker
I think Maryland is probably of like everybody that's not Ohio State, Oregon, or Michigan.
01:06:51
Speaker
I think Maryland is the most likely one to lose.
01:06:53
Speaker
We could have beaten Iowa last year.
01:06:57
Speaker
We could have beaten Iowa last year if like we had special teams.
01:07:02
Speaker
You're telling me I was at that game, dude.
01:07:04
Speaker
Fuck.
01:07:06
Speaker
Fun fact, Ryan was actually waving at the MSU sideline.
01:07:10
Speaker
Jesus, dude.
01:07:13
Speaker
Oh my God.
01:07:15
Speaker
In order of the games that I think that like, they're not a hundred percent win, a hundred percent loss in order of likelihood of loss.
01:07:21
Speaker
I think it's Maryland, Illinois, Boston college, and then Iowa in that order, maybe flip Iowa and Boston college, but that's kind of where I'm leaning right now.
01:07:30
Speaker
And I think the Maryland game is the only one of those four we lose.
01:07:35
Speaker
Do we even talk about Brian Lindgren at all?
01:07:40
Speaker
We mentioned him.
01:07:41
Speaker
We talked about the offensive staff.
01:07:43
Speaker
We actually kind of skipped over him.
01:07:45
Speaker
I'm okay with it.
01:07:51
Speaker
I get fan bases all bitch about their offensive coordinator, but yeah, Oregon State fans are definitely good for what I remember.
01:07:58
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So my only thing about that is if Mahalchuk does his job, Brian Lindgren's job is going to be really fucking easy.
01:08:06
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Yeah, for sure.
01:08:10
Speaker
I don't know, man.
01:08:11
Speaker
Like I said, my standards ain't that high.
01:08:14
Speaker
I've watched fucking Dave Warner and Jay Johnson be your OC for almost the entire last decade.
01:08:21
Speaker
And also, Dave Warner was better than Jay Johnson.
01:08:25
Speaker
Yeah, no, 100%.
01:08:27
Speaker
Yeah.
01:08:29
Speaker
That's also the only year, basically, that I remember that we had a good offensive line.
01:08:34
Speaker
Yeah.
01:08:35
Speaker
So it's like if you have a good offensive line, you're right.
01:08:37
Speaker
Play calling is a lot easier.
01:08:39
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Just run it up the gut, which is kind of like why Sherron Moore looks great because his offensive line is like fucking – Yeah, but he's also the OL coach, so he gets credit for that.
01:08:49
Speaker
Also, that's the reason why I like hiring Jonathan Smith because when you watch Oregon State play, they just dominate in the trenches.
01:08:57
Speaker
It's fun.
01:08:58
Speaker
Yep.
01:09:00
Speaker
So –
01:09:01
Speaker
Ryan and I ended up at 9-3.
01:09:04
Speaker
I don't think they're actually going to go 9-3.
01:09:06
Speaker
No, they're going to lose some stupid game.
01:09:09
Speaker
Yeah.
01:09:09
Speaker
Because it's a team that's not accustomed to winning, and you have a true sophomore quarterback.
01:09:18
Speaker
It's going to be the Rutgers just because of you, Ollie.
01:09:21
Speaker
Oh, God.
01:09:22
Speaker
We better not lose the Rutgers at home.
01:09:24
Speaker
I swear to fucking God, dude.
01:09:25
Speaker
No.
01:09:26
Speaker
Seattle man coming.
01:09:28
Speaker
Jesus.
01:09:30
Speaker
All right, well... Chopping.
01:09:32
Speaker
Oh, God, no, no.
01:09:33
Speaker
Well, they can have Chopping.
01:09:34
Speaker
They can have it back.
01:09:35
Speaker
I don't want it anymore.
01:09:36
Speaker
They can have it back.
01:09:38
Speaker
Yeah, so I guess, like, one of the... Yeah, so that's where we're at.
01:09:44
Speaker
I mean, if we go... If we go eight and four, I would say, like, the vibes are going to be unreal.
01:09:52
Speaker
Yeah, it's a humongous W if you go in there.
01:09:55
Speaker
Yeah.
01:09:56
Speaker
Even if we go 7-5, the vibes are going to be great.
01:09:59
Speaker
The vibes are going to be immaculate.
01:10:01
Speaker
Here's the other part of the equation, though.
01:10:03
Speaker
We have more talent than nine teams in the roster right now.
01:10:06
Speaker
Like, for all the things we correctly complain about Mel Tucker for, the one thing he did a really good job of was stalking the cupboard.
01:10:14
Speaker
Well, I agree to an extent because the transfers he brought in, a lot of them were, like, highly rated out of high school where they just didn't pan out at the school they were at, and he brought in a bunch of fucking retreads.
01:10:25
Speaker
A lot of them are like freshmen or sophomores when they came in here too.
01:10:28
Speaker
Well, I'm not talking about the guys he recruited out of high school.
01:10:31
Speaker
I'm talking about – I'm talking about transfers too.
01:10:35
Speaker
A lot of them came over with like multiple years of eligibility.
01:10:38
Speaker
Yeah, and they just weren't – well, yeah, and they got passed over or they didn't make the two deep at the school they were at.
01:10:46
Speaker
Honestly, 22 and 23 were two of the three best classes that Cena's ever had.
01:10:53
Speaker
At the top of the class, sure.
01:10:56
Speaker
But you get past the top of the class and they reach.
01:11:00
Speaker
Yeah.
01:11:02
Speaker
For sure.
01:11:03
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Especially 23.
01:11:04
Speaker
They stockpiled good young talent.
01:11:07
Speaker
I said that from the beginning when he got hired.
01:11:10
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At the very minimum, even if Mel doesn't work, he'd...
01:11:13
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and this was before the portal was a huge thing and immediate eligibility was a thing, that he would stockpile good young talent on the roster.
01:11:21
Speaker
And for the most part, he did, and a lot of them stuck around.
01:11:24
Speaker
So it looks like Bai Jo, Andrew DePay, and some of those guys are going to stay.
01:11:29
Speaker
So, like, yeah, that's a big deal.
01:11:32
Speaker
I will just say that if he was as good on the phone as he was with the recruit,
01:11:37
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like, he would not be – he would still be here.
01:11:39
Speaker
Yeah.
01:11:40
Speaker
I don't think he was good on the phone because he got fired.
01:11:42
Speaker
He was as good on the phone as he was on the phone with recruits at all times.
01:11:47
Speaker
He would still be here.
01:11:49
Speaker
Well, anyways, I guess, like, I want to play a little game with other first-year predictions because we went through the record.
01:11:56
Speaker
But, like, I want to ask you guys some things that I just thought up or maybe I've just been thinking about.
01:12:01
Speaker
But, like –
01:12:02
Speaker
What do you think our first play from scrimmage is going to be?
01:12:06
Speaker
Wildcats.
01:12:07
Speaker
Short side sweep.
01:12:09
Speaker
Short side of the field jet sweep.
01:12:13
Speaker
With Jack Belling?
01:12:15
Speaker
It's going to be like the Jamal Isles play against Nebraska.
01:12:19
Speaker
Do you think it will actually pick up yards?
01:12:22
Speaker
Three yards.
01:12:23
Speaker
Yeah, he gets three.
01:12:25
Speaker
Okay, we're down very bad right now.
01:12:27
Speaker
Well, what if he starts off, like, what if it is actually, like, kind of a fake?
01:12:31
Speaker
So, like, short side, tight end, jet sweep, but instead of crossing the line of the strippage, steps back, and then drops back, passes it to Aiden Childs.
01:12:41
Speaker
That would be fucking amazing.
01:12:43
Speaker
I would die of laughter.
01:12:46
Speaker
They should just run the flea flicker first play.
01:12:48
Speaker
Fuck it.
01:12:49
Speaker
Okay, Jay.
01:12:50
Speaker
Okay, Jay Johnson.
01:12:50
Speaker
Okay.
01:12:52
Speaker
You know what the fucking thing is?
01:12:55
Speaker
That's how you know he was a terrible OC.
01:12:57
Speaker
Because he still called the flea flicker when no one respected our fucking run game.
01:13:03
Speaker
He kept on calling it in 22 and 23 when our offensive line was... We didn't have a guy too right there and our offensive line was fucking dog shit.
01:13:11
Speaker
It only worked when you had Kenneth fucking Walker, you dick shit.
01:13:16
Speaker
Anyways, all right, so first play.
01:13:18
Speaker
This man really had fucking Keon Coleman and Jaden Reed on the same fucking team and went five and seven with them.
01:13:24
Speaker
It's honestly incredible.
01:13:26
Speaker
No, I have a new nominee for first play of the year.
01:13:29
Speaker
Do you remember the Cowboys 49ers game last year?
01:13:33
Speaker
Fucking Ezekiel Elliott lining up a center?
01:13:37
Speaker
No.
01:13:37
Speaker
Are we going to line up?
01:13:39
Speaker
Are we going to run the Wildcat?
01:13:44
Speaker
With Nate Carter at center and all the linemen lined up.
01:13:49
Speaker
All right.
01:13:54
Speaker
All right.
01:13:55
Speaker
All right.
01:13:56
Speaker
Who's going to be our receiving leader?
01:13:59
Speaker
Jerron Glover.
01:14:01
Speaker
Silas Bolden is my preferable answer, but I don't think he's coming here.
01:14:05
Speaker
No, fuck it.
01:14:06
Speaker
Nick Marsh.
01:14:07
Speaker
No fucking way.
01:14:08
Speaker
Zero shot.
01:14:10
Speaker
Let's do it.
01:14:10
Speaker
Let's ride.
01:14:11
Speaker
Nope.
01:14:13
Speaker
Broncos, let's ride.
01:14:16
Speaker
Who's going to be our sack leader?
01:14:21
Speaker
Not Mel Tucker.
01:14:25
Speaker
Jesus Christ.
01:14:28
Speaker
That's a good question.
01:14:31
Speaker
Who's returning?
01:14:32
Speaker
I don't know if Zion Young's coming back.
01:14:35
Speaker
Derek Harmon.
01:14:36
Speaker
Harmon's a tackle, though.
01:14:38
Speaker
He's not an edge guy.
01:14:39
Speaker
Edge Hope.
01:14:43
Speaker
I think he's too raw.
01:14:45
Speaker
I think he's going to be year three until he's a big-time contributor.
01:14:49
Speaker
What was Simeon Barrow?
01:14:50
Speaker
Is he inside or outside?
01:14:52
Speaker
He's inside.
01:14:53
Speaker
Simeon Barrow's still around?
01:14:55
Speaker
Yeah, he's sticking around.
01:14:58
Speaker
Dude, he's been in college for almost as long as Talia has.
01:15:01
Speaker
He was in D'Antonio's last class, I think.
01:15:04
Speaker
Yeah, he's a D'Antonio guy.
01:15:07
Speaker
I guess a better question is who's going to be our interception leader?
01:15:12
Speaker
Oh, Dylan Tatum.
01:15:17
Speaker
I'll say Dylan Tatum, too.
01:15:18
Speaker
Okay.
Playoffs Expectations and Historical Reflections
01:15:20
Speaker
And it's going to be a number bigger than two.
01:15:25
Speaker
Yeah.
01:15:26
Speaker
How many picks this year?
01:15:27
Speaker
Like three?
01:15:29
Speaker
We've had like five picks in the last two years combined.
01:15:31
Speaker
Oh, my God.
01:15:35
Speaker
But yeah, all right.
01:15:35
Speaker
Well, I mean, I don't know what other – do you guys have any other predictions or whatever?
01:15:39
Speaker
Because we can then move on.
01:15:40
Speaker
I was throwing for 3,000-plus yards.
01:15:42
Speaker
Nate Carter going for 3,000.
01:15:44
Speaker
All right.
01:15:47
Speaker
Yeah, we're shooting high here.
01:15:48
Speaker
And speaking of shooting high, let's shoot long.
01:15:52
Speaker
Looking long-term.
01:15:54
Speaker
I know we had some texts going back and forth after the –
01:16:00
Speaker
events of last night.
01:16:02
Speaker
I know, Zanjo, you have a long-term goal for the staff and this program.
01:16:09
Speaker
Care to share.
01:16:10
Speaker
If Jonathan Smith doesn't win a national title, he's a failure.
01:16:13
Speaker
That's the goal.
01:16:14
Speaker
The goal isn't fucking 8-4.
01:16:16
Speaker
The goal is routine playoff runs, routinely contending for the national championship and winning at least one.
01:16:23
Speaker
I don't care how many times he beats Michigan.
01:16:24
Speaker
I don't care how many times he beats Ohio State.
01:16:26
Speaker
I'm treating this like a fucking NFL team now.
01:16:29
Speaker
Win it all.
01:16:30
Speaker
You are going to be miserable, dude.
01:16:33
Speaker
Win one, and I'll be happy.
01:16:35
Speaker
Just be a consistent contender and win one.
01:16:39
Speaker
That's all I'm asking him to do.
01:16:41
Speaker
And we've seen teams with similar talent levels as MSU do that.
01:16:46
Speaker
We've seen Mark D'Antonio do that here.
01:16:50
Speaker
He didn't get the national title, but he did the consistent national title contention thing.
01:16:54
Speaker
He made it to the playoff in the second year of the playoff.
01:16:57
Speaker
He would have had two or three Final Fours if they had the 12-team playoff.
01:17:02
Speaker
I would have had more than that.
01:17:04
Speaker
He would have made the playoff in 2010, 11, 13, 14, 15.
01:17:05
Speaker
And at 17, he would have missed it.
01:17:06
Speaker
He would have missed it.
01:17:07
Speaker
He would have missed it.
01:17:19
Speaker
I think.
01:17:19
Speaker
Yeah.
01:17:19
Speaker
If he had beat Northwestern or Nordame that year, he would have made it.
01:17:24
Speaker
Or within 45 against Ohio State.
01:17:27
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
01:17:27
Speaker
35.
01:17:28
Speaker
Yeah.
01:17:30
Speaker
Yeah.
01:17:32
Speaker
D'Antoni would have been in the playoffs six of those years.
01:17:34
Speaker
11.
01:17:37
Speaker
No, five.
01:17:37
Speaker
Five of those years.
01:17:38
Speaker
Yeah.
01:17:39
Speaker
Okay.
01:17:39
Speaker
Yeah.
01:17:40
Speaker
I mean, that's doable.
01:17:41
Speaker
I think like making it in a 12 team playoff, I think he should be every two out of three.
01:17:46
Speaker
Or two out of three.
01:17:47
Speaker
At least every other.
01:17:49
Speaker
Contending to make it two out of three and then at least one out of three, I think.
01:17:54
Speaker
Well, there is a bullshit about the auto bids, right?
01:17:57
Speaker
So the auto bids go to the Power Four conference.
01:18:00
Speaker
Oh, Power Four.
01:18:01
Speaker
Yeah, they cut down the auto bids.
01:18:02
Speaker
So there's one more that large crowd available.
01:18:05
Speaker
Yeah.
01:18:06
Speaker
And obviously that's probably going to go to NSEC, your Big Ten team.
01:18:11
Speaker
Yeah.
01:18:12
Speaker
The committee really did a nice job this year because they showed the ACC their one bid league.
01:18:17
Speaker
We don't have to pretend that the ACC and Big 12 are anything else now.
01:18:20
Speaker
Maybe the odd year they'll have two teams, but the committee follows where they stand.
01:18:26
Speaker
And then the committee probably looked vindicated after the bowl game too, right?
01:18:32
Speaker
I don't think expecting Jonathan Smith to finish top four in the Big 10 once every two years is asking too much.
01:18:39
Speaker
I don't disagree with that.
01:18:41
Speaker
Especially if there's no divisions, right?
01:18:43
Speaker
Ideally, he's here for
01:18:46
Speaker
A decade.
01:18:46
Speaker
One national title.
01:18:47
Speaker
Like, Harbaugh took nine years to do it.
01:18:49
Speaker
I don't see why Jonathan... Yeah, he took nine years to do it.
01:18:52
Speaker
He cheated to do it.
01:18:54
Speaker
Like, that's not... Jonathan Smith isn't cheating his ball sacks off.
01:18:58
Speaker
this year, he's a failed human being.
01:19:00
Speaker
Well, yeah, if they're not going to do anything to Michigan, I agree.
01:19:03
Speaker
Yeah, if they're not going to do anything to Michigan, then I would start cheating.
01:19:06
Speaker
But if they do something to Michigan, like... It doesn't matter.
01:19:09
Speaker
It doesn't matter.
01:19:10
Speaker
It does.
01:19:10
Speaker
It's fly forever.
01:19:12
Speaker
No, because they're not going to vacate it.
01:19:13
Speaker
Dude, I'm telling you, if we did the shit Michigan did, we're getting fucking hammered by the NCAA.
01:19:17
Speaker
Oh, yeah, for sure.
01:19:19
Speaker
Yeah.
01:19:20
Speaker
That's... No, Ryan, that's correct, right?
01:19:21
Speaker
No, Ryan's absolutely right.
01:19:22
Speaker
No, I'm going to put devil's advocate to that, okay?
01:19:25
Speaker
Because you have two choices now.
01:19:26
Speaker
You have the choice.
01:19:27
Speaker
You can either cheat your balls off and win, or you can choose not to cheat your balls off and not win.
01:19:33
Speaker
And then you'll get the death penalty because you will be left behind for the next round of realignment.
01:19:38
Speaker
They're going to hammer – I'm telling you, man.
01:19:41
Speaker
The next round is going to be Super League.
01:19:44
Speaker
Yeah, but like Michigan State had a fucking – like a scandal in like 93, and then they dropped the hammer on us.
01:19:52
Speaker
Yeah, they literally vacated all their – Wasn't that MSU who did it themselves?
01:19:56
Speaker
I think our president did it that year.
01:19:59
Speaker
No, the NCAA – Oh, was it?
01:20:02
Speaker
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
01:20:03
Speaker
The NCAA has no power anymore.
01:20:04
Speaker
Like things are different now than they were in 94.
01:20:06
Speaker
Yeah.
01:20:08
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, we're not a blue blood.
01:20:12
Speaker
I mean, we're a good program.
01:20:14
Speaker
It doesn't matter.
01:20:16
Speaker
But we're not like – if we won the national championship, right?
01:20:20
Speaker
If we win the national title and it gets vacated, I still have the vibes of us winning the national title.
01:20:25
Speaker
I know, but like if we win the national title, ESPN isn't going to go 24-7 the next day jerking us off saying Michigan State versus everybody.
01:20:33
Speaker
They went through a lot of adversity and all that shit.
01:20:36
Speaker
They'd be like –
01:20:38
Speaker
You say that right now.
01:20:40
Speaker
You say that right now, but... No, no, here's the thing.
01:20:44
Speaker
When you win a national title, the way... Dude, come on.
01:20:48
Speaker
When you win the national title, the way the media talks about you changes.
01:20:54
Speaker
We remember Clemsoning.
01:20:55
Speaker
The way they treated Clemson now and the way they treated Clemson fucking three years before they won the title is so different.
01:21:02
Speaker
They went after them so fucking hard.
01:21:05
Speaker
And then they won a title.
01:21:07
Speaker
They still went after them.
01:21:09
Speaker
They still went after them.
01:21:10
Speaker
That's my point.
01:21:12
Speaker
If you think that MSU is getting the Michigan treatment, if the same shit happens here, you're out of your fucking mind.
01:21:18
Speaker
That is not what would happen.
01:21:20
Speaker
No, I think that.
01:21:20
Speaker
I really do think that.
01:21:21
Speaker
The NCAA has no power.
01:21:22
Speaker
NCAA is done.
01:21:27
Speaker
Literally, Western Michigan could get away with it right now.
01:21:30
Speaker
That's how sure I am about this.
01:21:33
Speaker
And the playbooks out there are how to handle the NCAA.
01:21:35
Speaker
Just don't cooperate.
01:21:36
Speaker
And what's the NCAA going to do?
01:21:37
Speaker
They just sit there on their hands and do nothing because of that.
01:21:39
Speaker
They don't have slip-in-up hours.
01:21:41
Speaker
Yeah, unless the college football playoff starts – and I think I heard this on Bacon Wire.
01:21:46
Speaker
Shout out Bacon Wire if any of you guys are listening.
01:21:50
Speaker
I think they were talking about it that if the college football playoff discovers –
01:21:56
Speaker
the committee discovers, oh shit, we might actually have enforcement power because people want to play in the playoff.
01:22:05
Speaker
We might actually have like unwritten power.
01:22:08
Speaker
Here's the thing.
01:22:08
Speaker
They're not going to use it.
01:22:10
Speaker
They're not going to use it because cash rules everything around.
01:22:12
Speaker
It's all about TV rings.
01:22:14
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
01:22:14
Speaker
And here's the thing with a 12 team playoff MSU can get away with it.
01:22:18
Speaker
If it was a 14 playoff, maybe not, but 12 team playoff,
01:22:21
Speaker
You're talking about us or like Oklahoma State getting in.
01:22:24
Speaker
Who would they rather have?
01:22:27
Speaker
But yeah.
01:22:29
Speaker
Or Kansas State.
01:22:30
Speaker
Oh yeah, you definitely have us.
01:22:33
Speaker
I mean, there's like five people that live in Kansas.
01:22:35
Speaker
I think we have more listeners.
01:22:37
Speaker
We have more listeners than people in Kansas.
01:22:39
Speaker
If we stop looking at MSU compared to like the top five programs in the country and we started looking at them compared to like, I don't know, the
01:22:48
Speaker
bottom 40-ish teams of Power 5.
01:22:50
Speaker
We are more appealing than every single one of those bottom 40-ish teams.
01:22:54
Speaker
Honestly, if you... What's it called?
01:22:58
Speaker
On the topic of cheating and stuff, if you just take everything that 49-0 dudes that... The guys in Ryan's mentions that go with 49-0, they're...
01:23:11
Speaker
I mean, they're there.
01:23:13
Speaker
They think that the reason that we succeeded under D'Antonio is because of steroids.
01:23:18
Speaker
Or where did that one come from?
01:23:20
Speaker
That one came out of nowhere.
01:23:21
Speaker
No, that they thought they were trying to push that narrative 10 years ago, too.
01:23:26
Speaker
I legitimately don't remember hearing that narrative and it just came out of nowhere.
01:23:30
Speaker
I think it's because of like Bulla missing that game.
01:23:34
Speaker
They're like, that is not what happened.
01:23:37
Speaker
I guarantee you not why he got suspended.
01:23:41
Speaker
But they're like, oh no, they cheated.
01:23:45
Speaker
That's the only reason they beat us every fucking year.
01:23:53
Speaker
I think 12-team playoff, I think the goal should be you're going to make the playoff.
01:24:02
Speaker
We're no longer playing Ohio State every year.
01:24:05
Speaker
There's no divisions anymore.
01:24:07
Speaker
We should be...
01:24:09
Speaker
Based on recent success of the program, recent results of the program, we should be contending for the Big Ten title.
01:24:17
Speaker
We should be in the conversation for the playoff every year, if not every other year.
01:24:23
Speaker
Here's the thing, too.
01:24:25
Speaker
We don't have to contend for the Big Ten title to make the playoff.
01:24:28
Speaker
Correct.
01:24:29
Speaker
Yeah.
01:24:29
Speaker
If the fourth or fifth team, the Big Ten's going to make it in now.
01:24:32
Speaker
If you go 9-3, you've got a shot at getting in.
01:24:34
Speaker
Yeah.
01:24:36
Speaker
It's semantics, but I pushed back a little bit.
01:24:38
Speaker
I think the goal should be a national title and the expectation should be the playoff.
01:24:43
Speaker
Yeah.
01:24:44
Speaker
I think that's basically what you said, but...
01:24:47
Speaker
I don't know if I agree with the national title expectation, but I agree with the playoff part.
01:24:52
Speaker
He's saying the goal is the national title, which was during the 2010.
01:24:57
Speaker
Even the D'Antonio years, that was the goal.
01:25:01
Speaker
The expectation is like, we're in that top five conversation.
01:25:05
Speaker
I agree.
01:25:06
Speaker
The expectation is that we're a top ten team, which was legitimately what was going on between 2010 and 2017.
01:25:12
Speaker
Three of the last four finalists
01:25:17
Speaker
are programs that we can compete with on the recruiting trail.
01:25:21
Speaker
Or definitely two.
01:25:22
Speaker
I'd argue the third one may be a little bit more iffy.
01:25:27
Speaker
But we share state with them, and we have gone head-to-head with them, and we have beaten them more times than not on the field.
01:25:33
Speaker
Also, they're just fucking weird.
01:25:34
Speaker
Just recruit against their weirdness.
01:25:36
Speaker
Right.
01:25:37
Speaker
I truly do not.
01:25:38
Speaker
Other than...
01:25:40
Speaker
I do not go anywhere you want to go play with that fucking weirdo.
01:25:46
Speaker
If I was on the Michigan State recruiting staff, I would negatively recruit against Michigan by showing these kids all these neckbeards and go boob Twitter.
01:25:56
Speaker
Do you guys want to be associated with these weirdos?
01:25:59
Speaker
They've probably got pictures of you in their fucking basements.
01:26:02
Speaker
They're jerking off to you guys.
01:26:03
Speaker
Do you want to be associated with them or do you want to play for a normal team?
01:26:08
Speaker
And be viewed by... Okay, normal is a stretch for us too, but like a more normal fan base.
01:26:16
Speaker
And that's the thing though.
01:26:17
Speaker
So two of the last four teams in the national title race we can recruit against.
01:26:24
Speaker
TCU, UW.
01:26:26
Speaker
Yeah, the third one is a team that we are rivals with, so therefore we should expect to compete at their level just by virtue of being rivals with them.
01:26:35
Speaker
And the fourth one is Georgia and we don't talk about them.
01:26:38
Speaker
Is Nebraska going to beat Purdue?
01:26:40
Speaker
Yes, they probably are.
01:26:42
Speaker
Holy, yeah, they are fucking playing their lines.
01:26:44
Speaker
They were on a 12-0 run before half.
01:26:46
Speaker
So, yeah.
01:26:48
Speaker
It's 73-62 right now.
01:26:51
Speaker
God, I fucking hate Zach Eadie.
01:26:53
Speaker
Me too.
01:26:54
Speaker
He's the fucking worst.
01:26:56
Speaker
Anyways, back to whatever.
01:26:58
Speaker
All right.
01:26:58
Speaker
Yeah.
01:26:59
Speaker
So based on that, I just don't see why it's unrealistic to expect it.
01:27:03
Speaker
So that's that.
01:27:04
Speaker
We have to shoot for a national team.
01:27:06
Speaker
We're not Indiana.
01:27:07
Speaker
We played for a Rose Bowl in recent memory.
01:27:09
Speaker
We won a Rose.
01:27:10
Speaker
We won New Year's Six Bowls.
01:27:11
Speaker
Mel Tucker won a New Year's Six Bowl.
01:27:14
Speaker
I would argue they should be a better version of Wisconsin.
01:27:19
Speaker
Yeah.
01:27:20
Speaker
Yeah.
01:27:20
Speaker
I would say that like – I would even go once to –
01:27:24
Speaker
Sorry, I was going to say, I don't even go one step further and say that Wisconsin should shoot for national titles, too.
01:27:27
Speaker
They're a good enough program to do it.
01:27:29
Speaker
I don't think they have the infrastructure they care about.
01:27:31
Speaker
I think they do.
01:27:33
Speaker
Wisconsin and Nebraska both have the infrastructure, I think.
01:27:36
Speaker
Nebraska and Wisconsin, I don't agree with.
01:27:39
Speaker
I do not think they do.
01:27:40
Speaker
I would say, like, this team, this program, my expectation is that you are in the top 15 every year.
01:27:49
Speaker
And top 15 nowadays means that you're in the playoff.
01:27:53
Speaker
Every other year.
01:27:54
Speaker
Yeah.
01:27:55
Speaker
More often than not.
01:27:58
Speaker
If we finish ranked in the top 15 every year, we are likely more often than not to be in the playoff.
01:28:05
Speaker
And top 15 isn't shit.
01:28:07
Speaker
Like, nine and three teams go in the top 15.
01:28:10
Speaker
Especially the Big Ten.
01:28:11
Speaker
When you're playing against, like, Ohio State, Rutgers, or, honestly, Oregon, Michigan.
01:28:15
Speaker
Yep.
01:28:16
Speaker
Rutgers.
01:28:17
Speaker
Zach Eady got another foul called on him.
01:28:19
Speaker
Oh, get mad, buddy.
01:28:20
Speaker
Get mad.
01:28:21
Speaker
I'm sorry.
01:28:22
Speaker
I'm like a little...
01:28:24
Speaker
Speaking of fucking weirdos, Purdue.
01:28:25
Speaker
Just school.
01:28:28
Speaker
Nerds.
01:28:29
Speaker
All right.
01:28:29
Speaker
So that's our long-term look.
01:28:32
Speaker
I think
Fan Engagement and Podcast Reflections
01:28:33
Speaker
we are – well, actually, we won't revisit this because this is our last episode.
01:28:39
Speaker
unless there's very unforeseen circumstances and like Jonathan Smith pulls like a Todd Graham and leaves us in the off season.
01:28:48
Speaker
But I highly doubt that happens.
01:28:51
Speaker
Yeah.
01:28:52
Speaker
So yeah.
01:28:53
Speaker
So for our last episode, we decided to reach out and solicit some questions from the fan base.
01:29:02
Speaker
And we have questions from three people.
01:29:08
Speaker
Let's go through them.
01:29:11
Speaker
So Cohen Carr Fan Club, who would you like to see at special teams coordinator?
01:29:18
Speaker
Anybody from the stands would be better than Ross Sells, but curious if any names have been flowing around.
01:29:22
Speaker
Well, I think you asked this question like two weeks ago.
01:29:26
Speaker
Special teams coordinators, this could be co-special teams.
01:29:29
Speaker
I think it's going to be Keith Bonafa and Chad Will.
01:29:32
Speaker
Yeah, that's what it looks like.
01:29:34
Speaker
Yeah.
01:29:35
Speaker
To answer the question of who I would like to see, Malik Carr.
01:29:46
Speaker
Yeah, Malik Carr's special team advice.
01:29:48
Speaker
All right, so for the kick and punt returners, here's a vat of butter, of melted butter.
01:29:55
Speaker
Put your hands in it.
01:29:56
Speaker
I guarantee you it will help your catching skills.
01:30:00
Speaker
Yeah, and also everybody, all the gunners, none of you guys block.
01:30:04
Speaker
Blocking is for losers.
01:30:06
Speaker
Yeah, nobody does that.
01:30:07
Speaker
For a bunch of pitches.
01:30:09
Speaker
Nobody does that.
01:30:10
Speaker
I misread that.
01:30:11
Speaker
I thought I meant strength and conditioning.
01:30:13
Speaker
No, it's special teams coordinator.
01:30:15
Speaker
Special teams?
01:30:17
Speaker
Let's see.
01:30:18
Speaker
Special teams.
01:30:20
Speaker
Brevin Sowards.
01:30:23
Speaker
God.
01:30:24
Speaker
Yeah.
01:30:25
Speaker
He's trying to bring back fucking Ward fucking memories, dude.
01:30:29
Speaker
By the way, holy shit.
01:30:31
Speaker
By the way, like when you guys are so like last week in the, in the Rose Bowl, like Michigan's returner, just like fucking it up at the one yard line.
01:30:40
Speaker
I'm like, why did they put Brandon Sowers out there?
01:30:43
Speaker
Why did they put the white guy out there?
01:30:45
Speaker
We were literally a half of a yard away from not having this podcast today.
01:30:50
Speaker
Holy fucking shit, dude.
01:30:52
Speaker
I was so pissed.
01:30:55
Speaker
Yeah.
01:30:55
Speaker
Anyways, moving on.
01:30:57
Speaker
Sportsball, Joey, appreciate your commitment.
01:31:00
Speaker
You got a couple questions in.
01:31:02
Speaker
So let's start off with, this is a question for Zanjo.
01:31:06
Speaker
You've highlighted several routes the podcast could take.
01:31:09
Speaker
What about a history of Zanjo's search for a fiance?
01:31:13
Speaker
So, fun fact, my fiance is actually best friends with a very prominent member of MSU Twitter.
01:31:23
Speaker
who I met at the 2017 Penn State game when I drank 16 Natty Ices.
01:31:30
Speaker
Wasn't that the rain delay game?
01:31:32
Speaker
We double-tiplegated that game.
01:31:34
Speaker
We double-tiplegated.
01:31:36
Speaker
We got fucking plastered for that game, dude.
01:31:39
Speaker
Holy shit.
01:31:40
Speaker
I remember, like, for that – sorry, off topic.
01:31:42
Speaker
That game, because I was – I mean, I'm in Seattle.
01:31:47
Speaker
That game, we started watching it at the bar, and because of the rain delay, it got kicked off – knocked off of Fox and put on Fox Business Channel.
01:31:54
Speaker
So I, we, the, the bar didn't have Fox business channel.
01:31:58
Speaker
So I ran home to my apartment.
01:32:01
Speaker
I was already drunk, but I ran through a Capitol Hill, ran through the neighborhood, ran home, got my Apple TV, brought it back to the bar, connected it up to their projector.
01:32:10
Speaker
We watched it.
01:32:12
Speaker
And then we were, I was at that bar for seven hours.
01:32:16
Speaker
I was fucking shit face.
01:32:18
Speaker
And then I went to a UW game.
01:32:20
Speaker
Then I went and tailgated for a university of Washington night game.
01:32:25
Speaker
They were good that year too, weren't they?
01:32:28
Speaker
That was the year after they went to the playoff.
01:32:31
Speaker
Chris Fry wishes that the game would have been put on Fox News.
01:32:35
Speaker
Dude, we snuck like a 30-year-old fucking nanny ice into Spartan Stadium.
01:32:41
Speaker
Yeah, no one was going to do anything about it.
01:32:42
Speaker
There was nobody there.
01:32:43
Speaker
They wanted people to come back.
01:32:45
Speaker
We all saw from the stands there were like five people left there when the ginger kid kicked the field goal.
01:32:51
Speaker
It was...
01:32:54
Speaker
That crowd was fucking awesome though because the people that stayed were like the diehards.
01:33:00
Speaker
That game was awesome.
01:33:01
Speaker
That game was awesome.
01:33:03
Speaker
No, that was one of the most fun games I've ever been to.
01:33:05
Speaker
The second half of that game.
01:33:06
Speaker
So you met your fiancé there?
01:33:08
Speaker
No, not my fiancé.
01:33:09
Speaker
My fiancé's best friend.
01:33:10
Speaker
Oh, okay.
01:33:12
Speaker
All right.
01:33:13
Speaker
The start of it basically was Natty Ice.
01:33:15
Speaker
All right.
01:33:16
Speaker
Natty Ice.
01:33:16
Speaker
All right.
01:33:17
Speaker
Not a sponsor, it should be.
01:33:19
Speaker
Yeah, we should probably have an appendix episode, like the story of Zanjo's love life.
01:33:24
Speaker
That would be a very short... That's a dangerous game to play.
01:33:29
Speaker
That would be a very short episode.
01:33:31
Speaker
Very short, very fucked up episode.
01:33:35
Speaker
Is it because Zanjo, you batted a thousand?
01:33:37
Speaker
Yeah, he did.
01:33:40
Speaker
Yeah, he did.
01:33:41
Speaker
It was like 983.
01:33:44
Speaker
Anyways...
01:33:46
Speaker
All right, moving on to the next question.
01:33:48
Speaker
After people, I think Zanjo on RSCMB, I think, talked about, mentioned Fickle.
01:33:53
Speaker
Does his
Coaching Scandals and Media Reactions
01:33:54
Speaker
team's performance against the student assistant murderer provide any redemption?
01:34:01
Speaker
Oh, my God, dude.
01:34:04
Speaker
Zanjo, that's a you question.
01:34:06
Speaker
Someone else can answer this first.
01:34:08
Speaker
I'll get an answer after you guys talk about it.
01:34:11
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:34:13
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:34:14
Speaker
I forgot.
01:34:14
Speaker
I tuned out.
01:34:16
Speaker
I tuned out of that game.
01:34:18
Speaker
I forgot that LSU made a comeback in the Battle of Cincinnati, in the Cincinnati Bowl.
01:34:23
Speaker
So, Joey, I just want to say this.
01:34:26
Speaker
I've been staring at this question since we started recording, and I haven't come up with a good answer.
01:34:30
Speaker
Holy shit, man.
01:34:31
Speaker
That's a great question.
01:34:37
Speaker
He's like, he knows who he's writing to.
01:34:40
Speaker
I guess my response would be murder, murder, murder, murder.
01:34:45
Speaker
Windy, murder.
01:34:46
Speaker
Student assistant.
01:34:46
Speaker
I hate this day at DK.
01:34:48
Speaker
Getting sued this way.
01:34:49
Speaker
Go Irish.
01:35:05
Speaker
That was... I can't believe I got to fucking pull that twice.
01:35:09
Speaker
All right.
01:35:13
Speaker
Moving on.
01:35:13
Speaker
This question, I think, has to do with your suspension from Twitter.
01:35:19
Speaker
Zanjo, is it a life sentence?
01:35:21
Speaker
As of 1130 last night, it was.
01:35:29
Speaker
Yeah.
01:35:30
Speaker
Thank God I'm not a blue check like fucking Ryan because that automatically promotes his tweets to get the kind of engagement that gets every single June of 2021 Twitter join me.
01:35:44
Speaker
No, it's like... 49-0!
01:35:47
Speaker
It's October.
01:35:48
Speaker
It's October.
01:35:49
Speaker
No, it's November of 2021.
01:35:51
Speaker
That's... I want to drop another extremely controversial take regarding Twitter.
01:35:56
Speaker
Yeah.
01:35:57
Speaker
That's nuts.
01:35:58
Speaker
Michigan making a Twitter douchebag a very integral part of their program is one of the funniest fucking things on the planet.
01:36:07
Speaker
It's so on brand.
01:36:09
Speaker
The Conner Stallions thing is objectively just hilarious.
01:36:12
Speaker
Regardless of the NCAA, regardless of the fact they won the national title, the fact that the whole Conner Stallions thing happened...
01:36:19
Speaker
is so fucking funny.
01:36:20
Speaker
And if I was a Michigan fan, I would lean so hard into it.
01:36:23
Speaker
It's objectively hilarious.
01:36:25
Speaker
And the fact that they are choosing to fight back with like paid 400 NCAA bylaws just proves they are the most uncool fan base on the planet.
01:36:36
Speaker
They're fucking... They're fucking losers, man.
01:36:39
Speaker
Michigan fans are either like... They either have nothing else going on in their life...
01:36:49
Speaker
I mean, I don't want to make a classes take.
01:36:50
Speaker
They either own a car dealership.
01:36:53
Speaker
They either own a car dealership or they just finished their PhD at MIT or something.
01:36:57
Speaker
They're either nerds or they're petite bourgeoisie, like car dealership owners.
01:37:04
Speaker
That's a real way to talk about trailer trash.
01:37:07
Speaker
That's, dude, yeah.
01:37:08
Speaker
I don't know, but he's there, man.
01:37:11
Speaker
The people that live in my mentions with less than 100 followers, those dudes are the ones that have nothing good going for them in their lives.
01:37:19
Speaker
Are they the guys that tweet their internet access comes from the Obama landline program?
01:37:26
Speaker
They're all Rick Dunaway.
01:37:27
Speaker
Let's put it that way.
01:37:29
Speaker
Hey, man, I feel like the internet should be free, but I also feel like
01:37:35
Speaker
like uh dipshits should be dipshits and fascists should be censored there should be an iq test for you to be able to use the internet it's just so lame like you have the funniest fucking story on the planet and you want an action title why are you not just like going in yeah lean into it i would have my balls on the table going yeah we cheated what are you gonna do about it that's what i'd be doing i'm not lame
01:38:00
Speaker
I wouldn't care.
01:38:01
Speaker
Instead, like, Jim Harbaugh tomorrow is just going to do, like, an anti-abortion commercial.
01:38:05
Speaker
Seriously, just drop the whole Michigan man shit and just have fun with the rest of us.
01:38:09
Speaker
Like, we know you're, like, you have the fucking Bo Schembecker statue up.
01:38:13
Speaker
You're not above us.
01:38:14
Speaker
Nobody would give a fuck about this shit if they would just, like, own that they did it.
01:38:19
Speaker
Seriously.
01:38:19
Speaker
It's so funny.
01:38:21
Speaker
It's just so funny.
01:38:22
Speaker
Like, I honestly, like, I would have zero problem with us doing that.
01:38:26
Speaker
I would respect them more if they did.
01:38:29
Speaker
Yeah, but instead they're like the whole year than now.
01:38:32
Speaker
Michigan versus everybody.
01:38:33
Speaker
We're dealing with... They fought through adversity.
01:38:36
Speaker
It's not adversity if it's your own fucking making.
01:38:39
Speaker
Self-inflicted adversity.
01:38:41
Speaker
That's not real adversity.
01:38:43
Speaker
Yeah, I'm dealing with adversity.
01:38:45
Speaker
Yeah, Plaxico Burris dealt with adversity by shooting himself in the leg.
01:38:49
Speaker
Here's the thing about society's hole.
01:38:51
Speaker
We love bad guys that lean into being the bad guys.
01:38:55
Speaker
Yeah, that's why we love Lane Kiffin.
01:38:59
Speaker
We fucking love Lane Kiffin.
01:39:01
Speaker
Kiffin's fucking hilarious.
01:39:03
Speaker
Yeah.
01:39:05
Speaker
Like, seriously, they just admitted it.
01:39:09
Speaker
Who cares?
01:39:10
Speaker
But they decide to play the victim and act like a bunch of fucking bitches.
01:39:15
Speaker
If Jim Harbaugh has to do it because...
01:39:18
Speaker
Like, he wants to avoid the NCAA.
01:39:19
Speaker
That's fine.
01:39:20
Speaker
But, like, dude, if I was, like, random Michigan fan, NPC number 495, like, dude, I'm fucking bragging that we cheat better than everyone else.
01:39:30
Speaker
Well, they didn't cheat better than everyone else because they got caught.
01:39:34
Speaker
Fair.
01:39:36
Speaker
So, like I said, Alabama and OSU have definitely cheated in the past.
01:39:42
Speaker
They weren't stupid enough to get fucking caught.
01:39:47
Speaker
Yeah, you're like expecting like you're expecting operational security from a fan base that like did not January 6th.
01:39:56
Speaker
So like whatever, like they're it's the same, same shit.
01:40:03
Speaker
Congress is walking around acting like the fuck, like fucking hot shit after the game.
01:40:07
Speaker
Objectively hilarious.
01:40:08
Speaker
Objectively funny.
01:40:10
Speaker
I mean, the dude's life revolves around Michigan football.
01:40:13
Speaker
I love Connor Stallion.
01:40:15
Speaker
And in a ways, it worked.
01:40:18
Speaker
He got what he wanted.
01:40:19
Speaker
His manifesto, he saw his manifesto to a position.
01:40:23
Speaker
The Michigan manifesto is the goddamn funniest thing.
01:40:26
Speaker
Connor Stallion's won, and I have way more respect for him tonight than I did a few months ago.
01:40:34
Speaker
I
Hypotheticals and Podcast Farewell
01:40:35
Speaker
mean, it's objectively fucking hilarious that a Michigan fucking shit poster almost like completely ruined their entire Michigan shit poster won the national title.
01:40:48
Speaker
Honestly, that's not me.
01:40:53
Speaker
That's fucking hilarious.
01:40:55
Speaker
All right, moving on.
01:40:59
Speaker
I know we got a lot to get out of our system about last night, but let's just move on.
01:41:02
Speaker
All right.
01:41:03
Speaker
Another one from Sparse Ball Joey.
01:41:05
Speaker
This one's for Ryan.
01:41:06
Speaker
Was Ryan's date worth missing a recording of the pod?
01:41:09
Speaker
Yes.
01:41:10
Speaker
Next one.
01:41:12
Speaker
Congratulations on the sex.
01:41:15
Speaker
I hope she's not a listener.
01:41:17
Speaker
Probably not.
01:41:18
Speaker
I hope she got STD checked.
01:41:20
Speaker
Thank you, dude.
01:41:27
Speaker
No, no, Ryan's out here being Le'Veon Bell.
01:41:30
Speaker
Yeah.
01:41:31
Speaker
Jabril Peppers.
01:41:32
Speaker
No, I'm being Jabril.
01:41:34
Speaker
Danzo thinks I'm being Jabril Peppers.
01:41:38
Speaker
Okay, and then on a more serious note, given what we know of NIL at MSU and what we think we know of Jonathan Smith, where do you think we will land in the new big pecking order?
01:41:48
Speaker
I mean, we should be like, what, fifth or sixth best program in the conference?
01:41:53
Speaker
Fifth or sixth best consistently.
01:41:56
Speaker
occasionally peaking up to first or second, I think.
01:41:59
Speaker
Nebraska's probably going to storm the court.
01:42:01
Speaker
Yeah, they're going to storm the court in Nebraska.
01:42:03
Speaker
That fan base is used to storming things, man.
01:42:05
Speaker
Oh, I ain't going to lie, man.
01:42:07
Speaker
Their fans show up to basketball games.
01:42:08
Speaker
I went there like – Yeah.
01:42:09
Speaker
It was pretty fucking insane.
01:42:12
Speaker
Yeah.
01:42:12
Speaker
I think, yeah.
01:42:15
Speaker
On the topic of – back to the question, yeah, I agree.
01:42:17
Speaker
We should be in the top six consistently.
01:42:20
Speaker
So, like, if you line it up, Oregon's going to have to beat it on NIL.
01:42:23
Speaker
Michigan and Ohio State's going to have to beat it on NIL.
01:42:25
Speaker
Michigan doesn't want to spend money on NIL, so I don't know about them.
01:42:29
Speaker
I mean, so you and Washington are, like, probably, what, like, five and six?
01:42:35
Speaker
Well, that's what I'm saying.
01:42:36
Speaker
Like, based on NIL, basically Oregon and Ohio State are the only teams that are clear tiers above us.
01:42:40
Speaker
USC's a fading program.
01:42:42
Speaker
Michigan's good.
01:42:43
Speaker
Yeah, but who knows what's going to happen with that staff?
01:42:48
Speaker
That and also they're just fucking dorks and we should just throw money to cannons at everyone.
01:42:54
Speaker
But yeah, five or six sounds pretty reasonable.
01:42:57
Speaker
Behind Oregon, Ohio State, Michigan, and probably Penn State and USC.
01:43:04
Speaker
And we can probably jump three or four of those teams in a given year.
01:43:09
Speaker
Anyways, moving on.
01:43:11
Speaker
These questions from one of our podcast parents.
01:43:14
Speaker
Can't read, can't write.
01:43:16
Speaker
Multiverses are all the rage.
01:43:18
Speaker
Thinking about the other infinite realities where Urban or Elko is coach or whoever, is Zanjo still banned on Twitter in all of them?
01:43:25
Speaker
Absolutely.
01:43:26
Speaker
Yeah.
01:43:28
Speaker
100%.
01:43:29
Speaker
Urban tired, I'm not ever good.
01:43:31
Speaker
I would never be allowed within five feet of a Twitter computer.
01:43:35
Speaker
Or a kid.
01:43:37
Speaker
Oh, shit.
01:43:38
Speaker
No, just kidding.
01:43:40
Speaker
Damn.
01:43:41
Speaker
Because you just have a raging erection all the time.
01:43:44
Speaker
My dick is not five feet long.
01:43:47
Speaker
That's right.
01:43:48
Speaker
You'll probably hide him in a good pair of sweatpants.
01:43:57
Speaker
All right.
01:43:57
Speaker
Staying on this subject.
01:43:59
Speaker
It's been forever since your last episode, so I don't remember if you covered this, but is there a universe where Harlan Barnett is able to keep the job?
01:44:07
Speaker
Fuck no!
01:44:08
Speaker
All right.
01:44:10
Speaker
I guess that answers the rest of this, because what needed to happen if he got the job?
01:44:15
Speaker
Ryan and I talked about this, but I think...
01:44:18
Speaker
Ryan, you said the final record needed to be 8-4.
01:44:22
Speaker
Yeah, that was the only way he was keeping his job.
01:44:26
Speaker
That was the only way he'd be in consideration for it, I would say.
01:44:28
Speaker
Not that he even keeps it.
01:44:31
Speaker
Yeah, and then would this have been a normal universe or would we have had hot dog fingers?
01:44:38
Speaker
I think hot dog fingers.
01:44:40
Speaker
Ryan's used to have a knee on his hand.
01:44:43
Speaker
It would have been, I think it would have had to have been hot dog fingers because the only way, the only way we were going to beat like UW is if like all the receivers started dropping balls.
01:44:53
Speaker
Wait, wait, hold on.
01:44:53
Speaker
Hot dog fingers?
01:44:54
Speaker
Isn't that just Malik Carr?
01:44:56
Speaker
I really, really want to make a joke.
01:44:58
Speaker
I don't know why I'm picking on him so much in this episode.
01:45:01
Speaker
I really, really want to make a joke about Zanjo, but I'm not going to do it.
01:45:04
Speaker
I think he knows what joke I want to make about him.
01:45:08
Speaker
Oh God, that one?
01:45:09
Speaker
That one.
01:45:10
Speaker
Did it involve a bathroom?
01:45:12
Speaker
Yep.
01:45:12
Speaker
I don't know.
01:45:16
Speaker
I don't worry.
01:45:16
Speaker
I'm not going to do it.
01:45:19
Speaker
You can cancel it.
01:45:19
Speaker
You can do it.
01:45:23
Speaker
And then last question.
01:45:27
Speaker
Finally, the only thing better than a multiverse is a crossover event.
01:45:30
Speaker
If all of MSU Twitter and podcast hosts were brought together by Grouch's wife's boyfriend, Captain America style, what would their roles be?
01:45:38
Speaker
And, well, this is an old question because it's irrelevant.
01:45:43
Speaker
That last part doesn't matter.
01:45:44
Speaker
But the last part was what could we do to help Washington defeat U of M?
01:45:48
Speaker
That part doesn't matter.
01:45:49
Speaker
But if we brought everybody from MSU Twitter and the podcast hosts together, what would their roles be?
01:45:56
Speaker
I'm going to start off by saying Zanja would be the Hulk.
01:46:03
Speaker
I would 100% be the Joker right now.
01:46:06
Speaker
Oh, well, I would say you'd be the Hulk because like you sometimes have normal takes, but when you get on one, you just just fucking run through everything and then you get banished to another planet.
01:46:22
Speaker
I don't know, Ryan, I would say, I don't know.
01:46:24
Speaker
What would Ryan be?
01:46:27
Speaker
Hawkeye?
01:46:29
Speaker
Yeah.
01:46:32
Speaker
Hawkeye gives that definitely Northern Michigan vibe.
01:46:35
Speaker
You know what I'm talking about.
01:46:37
Speaker
Spartan Legendary linebacker vibe.
01:46:40
Speaker
Yeah.
01:46:41
Speaker
All right.
01:46:45
Speaker
Zanjo and Ryan, you guys know the Bacon-Wire guys pretty well.
01:46:48
Speaker
What would you say they would be?
01:46:49
Speaker
I think Zanjo is more of a movie guy than me.
01:46:54
Speaker
He probably has a better answer than I do.
01:46:57
Speaker
I am not a movie guy at all.
01:46:58
Speaker
Compared to me, you are.
01:47:00
Speaker
I mean, I only started listening to them recently, so... I don't know.
01:47:08
Speaker
You can cut this joke if you want, but I can be Miles Morales because my skin color matches.
01:47:13
Speaker
Yeah, that's fair.
01:47:15
Speaker
What about Sheehan?
01:47:18
Speaker
Would Sheehan be like Iron Man?
01:47:20
Speaker
Yeah.
01:47:21
Speaker
Because he posts every day.
01:47:24
Speaker
Yeah, he's probably Iron Man.
01:47:26
Speaker
She-Han would be Iron Man.
01:47:27
Speaker
Do you guys ever listen to the only podcast?
01:47:31
Speaker
Yeah.
01:47:35
Speaker
I think Austin's like Captain America.
01:47:38
Speaker
John Kirby is... Who would he be?
01:47:43
Speaker
They could both tag team as Captain America.
01:47:46
Speaker
I don't know.
01:47:48
Speaker
They put in a lot of work.
01:47:49
Speaker
Oh, John might be Thor.
01:47:51
Speaker
My question would be, who would be the voice of reason among all this?
01:47:53
Speaker
Like...
01:47:55
Speaker
God damn, that's a good question.
01:47:56
Speaker
Do we have one?
01:47:57
Speaker
I feel like you have to give that guy Captain America.
01:48:00
Speaker
Do we have a voice of reason?
01:48:02
Speaker
I don't know if we do.
01:48:04
Speaker
Thinned?
01:48:05
Speaker
Justin Thinned?
01:48:07
Speaker
Yeah.
01:48:08
Speaker
Probably.
01:48:09
Speaker
Yeah.
01:48:12
Speaker
That's probably the best one I can think of.
01:48:15
Speaker
Or Peach.
01:48:18
Speaker
Peach might be a voice of reason too.
01:48:20
Speaker
I don't know.
01:48:21
Speaker
What are we making Chief?
01:48:23
Speaker
Who's the most deranged person in that fucking universe?
01:48:26
Speaker
Me.
01:48:28
Speaker
No, that's Zanjo.
01:48:29
Speaker
What the fuck are you talking about?
01:48:32
Speaker
Not deranged.
01:48:33
Speaker
I'm a fucking joker.
01:48:35
Speaker
Fuck.
01:48:35
Speaker
I mean, we need a... I mean, definitely somebody that is always super hopeful.
01:48:41
Speaker
Thor, maybe?
01:48:42
Speaker
He could be Thor.
01:48:45
Speaker
I like when we know four superheroes each.
01:48:47
Speaker
We're just kind of rotating between them.
01:48:50
Speaker
Trevor.
01:48:50
Speaker
Well, because the latter...
01:48:58
Speaker
No, he's definitely not that one.
01:49:04
Speaker
I don't know, man.
01:49:05
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, he might be Thor.
01:49:09
Speaker
Let's see.
01:49:10
Speaker
What about the guys from Can't Read, Can't Write?
01:49:14
Speaker
How did we make a hot dog finger question that I didn't mention Mel Tucker's penis?
01:49:20
Speaker
That's called growth.
01:49:24
Speaker
The can't read, can't write guys.
01:49:25
Speaker
I mean, Grooch is probably Groot because he's just a tall tree.
01:49:31
Speaker
Have you guys hung out with them in person?
01:49:34
Speaker
No, I haven't.
01:49:36
Speaker
I hung out with Kevin Grek and Mike Jones from the pod.
01:49:41
Speaker
Grek is tall.
01:49:43
Speaker
Mike Jones, if you're listening, you're not tall, but you guys are really fun to be around.
01:49:49
Speaker
Alex Plum.
01:49:50
Speaker
He would be... I think he's like the squirrel guy from Guardians of the Galaxy.
01:49:54
Speaker
The voice.
01:49:57
Speaker
Star-Lord.
01:49:58
Speaker
Who would be Star-Lord?
01:49:59
Speaker
I think Star-Lord, the Chris Pratt character.
01:50:03
Speaker
That might be Mike Jones.
01:50:07
Speaker
I'm sure he's going to love you comparing him to Chris Pratt.
01:50:10
Speaker
Oh yeah, they're going to fucking love it.
01:50:13
Speaker
If they make it this far in the podcast.
01:50:16
Speaker
We're already about two hours in.
01:50:19
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know.
01:50:20
Speaker
What are some other Twitter personalities?
01:50:22
Speaker
Before I forget, we went over Sheehan, we got Chief, we got Peach.
01:50:27
Speaker
I don't know.
01:50:28
Speaker
Anybody big that we're missing?
01:50:31
Speaker
I mean, I can think of a bunch of DGens, but they aren't big accounts.
01:50:34
Speaker
Yeah.
01:50:37
Speaker
Fucking hate DGens.
01:50:39
Speaker
Yeah, we did this question wrong.
01:50:40
Speaker
We answered too many big accounts.
01:50:41
Speaker
We need more DGens.
01:50:43
Speaker
Yeah.
01:50:44
Speaker
I mean, we are the DGens.
01:50:45
Speaker
We have, like, what, five, six listeners?
01:50:48
Speaker
Yeah.
01:50:49
Speaker
We spent two hours.
01:50:51
Speaker
Five, six listeners and we made several jokes about things that are very degenerate.
01:50:58
Speaker
Yeah.
01:50:58
Speaker
Well, I mean, that's our brand, right?
01:51:01
Speaker
I'm going to say a Kelly Whopper song.
01:51:04
Speaker
Yeah.
01:51:04
Speaker
I guess.
01:51:05
Speaker
And then, yeah.
01:51:06
Speaker
Oh God.
01:51:07
Speaker
Yeah.
01:51:07
Speaker
I mean, I'm going to miss doing this.
01:51:09
Speaker
This has been a lot of fun.
01:51:10
Speaker
Like,
01:51:12
Speaker
Shout out to the UW tailgate.
01:51:14
Speaker
If anything came out of that, it was this fucking podcast.
01:51:18
Speaker
Fuck yes.
01:51:18
Speaker
And about 17 felonies.
01:51:22
Speaker
I mean, did you pee on any trees?
01:51:27
Speaker
He didn't walk down.
01:51:28
Speaker
I was so drunk that night, I don't even remember.
01:51:30
Speaker
I could very well have peed on a tree that night.
01:51:34
Speaker
He didn't walk down the highway this time.
01:51:35
Speaker
That's a step in the right direction.
01:51:37
Speaker
So I'm leaving my job, and one of my coworkers is...
01:51:42
Speaker
question you always ask people is what's the most illegal thing you've ever done?
01:51:46
Speaker
Just like an icebreaker.
01:51:50
Speaker
So I've been putting off answering this question forever.
01:51:52
Speaker
He meets my fiance for the first time.
01:51:55
Speaker
And she's like, oh, tell him about your MIP.
01:52:01
Speaker
I mean, MIPs are like a rite of passage at MSU.
01:52:04
Speaker
Bro, that is like the funniest fucking police report of all time, though.
01:52:10
Speaker
Oh, God.
01:52:11
Speaker
Yeah, we could talk about it offline.
01:52:13
Speaker
But, yeah, I don't know, man.
01:52:17
Speaker
I enjoyed doing this with you guys.
01:52:18
Speaker
This was a lot of fun.
01:52:21
Speaker
I guess we're getting to the point where we're about to wrap it up.
01:52:24
Speaker
We're almost at the two-hour mark.
01:52:25
Speaker
So I just wanted to put this out there.
01:52:27
Speaker
I had a lot of fun doing this podcast with you guys.
01:52:30
Speaker
It was great.
01:52:32
Speaker
It was great shepherding the youth.
01:52:35
Speaker
Great putting this out there.
01:52:37
Speaker
Great putting your opinions out there.
01:52:40
Speaker
It was a lot of fun.
01:52:41
Speaker
Absolutely.
01:52:42
Speaker
I'm glad.
01:52:42
Speaker
Yeah.
01:52:43
Speaker
This was awesome.
01:52:44
Speaker
In an otherwise depressing football season, yeah, this was fun.
01:52:49
Speaker
Yeah.
01:52:49
Speaker
It was like meeting you guys in person and then actually becoming friends with you guys, like,
01:52:58
Speaker
I'm thankful for that.
01:53:00
Speaker
It was free therapy.
01:53:02
Speaker
As big of a fucking cesspool as Twitter is, I met some pretty fucking awesome people on there.
01:53:07
Speaker
It was free therapy.
01:53:08
Speaker
It was very cathartic.
01:53:09
Speaker
I feel better now, man.
01:53:10
Speaker
I actually might root for the Lions again.
01:53:14
Speaker
See, I fucking told you, man.
01:53:15
Speaker
I fucking told you.
01:53:16
Speaker
For a loyal listener.
01:53:18
Speaker
Yeah.
01:53:19
Speaker
Do you guys have any parting words?
01:53:22
Speaker
Fuck Michigan, go green.
01:53:23
Speaker
Alright.
01:53:26
Speaker
What about you, Sanjo?
01:53:28
Speaker
Harbaugh's a fucking weird dude, man.
01:53:30
Speaker
Nothing I can say tops that.
01:53:33
Speaker
Yeah, honestly, on that note, I still don't think his dad is going to love him.
01:53:37
Speaker
He can climb several more trees, and I don't think his dad's going to love him.
01:53:45
Speaker
John will always be the favorite son.
01:53:47
Speaker
This is true.
01:53:51
Speaker
Is he like a born-again rodent?
01:53:53
Speaker
Is he like a born-again rodent or something?
01:53:55
Speaker
He loves milk.
01:53:56
Speaker
He loves meat.
01:53:56
Speaker
He loves climbing trees.
01:53:58
Speaker
And he loves being shirtless.
01:54:01
Speaker
Yeah, he's like one of those rat mice that carries that virus that gives you the bad flu.
01:54:07
Speaker
He's basically liver king.
01:54:10
Speaker
Yeah.
01:54:10
Speaker
Anyways, yeah, so I guess those are Zangelo's parting words.
01:54:15
Speaker
Jim Harbaugh is liver king.
01:54:16
Speaker
Yeah, that's a parting box.
01:54:19
Speaker
All right, everybody.
01:54:21
Speaker
And that wraps it up for The Search.
01:54:25
Speaker
The Unabomber one of you about.
01:54:28
Speaker
Thanks for listening.
01:54:30
Speaker
Thanks for making us a part of, I don't know, your drives or whatever.
01:54:35
Speaker
And hopefully we don't see you guys for a while.
01:54:39
Speaker
Please don't play this podcast in your sex dungeons.
01:54:42
Speaker
And with that, The Search out.