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Episode 3: The Multiverse of Manifestos
314 Plays2 years ago
Grech from Can't Read, Can't Write joined us to talk about the search, but our guys got sucked into Bizarroworld!
The news has been a little slow lately and other wilder and funnier storylines are dominating sports in the State of Michigan, but are back with an update on candidates.
(Yes, Zanjo is working on his Mic)
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Transcript
Introduction and Mysterious Guest
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Okay, I guess we're podcasting now.
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All right, everybody.
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Welcome to the search.
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Apologies for the delay since our last episode.
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I'm Ali, Ali Atawi on Twitter.
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I'm joined by Zanjo, banned from Twitter, and Spartan Ryan, Ryan.
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And we have a guest.
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Guest, who are you?
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I could be anyone.
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We'll just leave it to the interpretation of the listener of who I might be, where I might be affiliated.
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But for today, are we doing our roles yet?
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No, we're not role playing yet.
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I'm always role playing, Ali.
Guest's Podcast Connections and Episode Outline
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They call me the Grooch over at Can't Read, Can't Write.
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It's another much worse Spartan podcast.
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So I'm hoping to kind of move everyone from that one over here.
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That's the general goal.
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So, you know, just unsubscribe from that.
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Subscribe to this.
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I hear you guys actually keep a schedule.
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No, no, no, no.
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We run a certain episodes through chat GPT.
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It just gets generated and then we release those.
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Uh, yeah.
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So that's why nothing that plum says makes any sense.
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That's why it's the same bit every single time.
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And then you'll also see that Jonesy starts to hallucinate after a period, but everyone's so bored that they don't even realize cause they're like reaching for their phone to hit the 15 second button.
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So, um,
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And then, you know, there's that other dude over there as well.
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And no one knows why he's there.
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But yeah.
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Anyway, thanks for having me, guys.
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Hey, no problem.
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Thanks for joining us.
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We have a episode in store.
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We have an episode.
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It's been a little bit since we've recorded because.
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News has been a little slow.
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Nothing major has happened at all.
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I don't even know what we're going to talk about today.
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But we're just going to stick to the usual format for those five of you that have been listening to us.
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We're going to go over the state of the program.
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We're going to go through our coaching candidates.
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And we're going to talk about media narratives.
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that are happening right
Bold Statements and Podcast Identity
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now.
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So, uh, first things first, I want to put it on record that this podcast is an anti Hitler podcast.
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Do not support Hitler here at the search.
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No bold, bold statement.
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Okay.
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Very, very, very brave statement.
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Yeah.
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I mean, no one can make a braver statement than that.
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Right.
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I'm very proud of us all for coming out against Hitler.
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Yeah, we're the true heroes, I think, you guys.
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Oh, yeah.
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No, like, it's really hard to be anti-Hitler in 2023.
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Actually, I will say that this statement that you guys are making is why I've decided to migrate over from Kang and Ritkantamite.
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Despite my best efforts, couldn't get
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Alex Plum to make a similar statement.
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He just thinks that they had a lot of good ideas.
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So here I am.
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And again, all the more reason why you should unsubscribe from that.
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Shots fired.
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Shots fired.
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We're going to have to get him on next in order to reboot.
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He's honeymooning in Austria, right?
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That's correct.
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He's at the Eagle's Nest.
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But that's just a coincidence.
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He assured me.
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All right.
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All right.
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Well, that being said, we had to get that little bit of bookkeeping out of the way.
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I do want to talk about the current status of the program, which is that is awful.
Program's State and Coaching Changes
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It is a dumpster fire, five alarm fire.
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We just got our butts kicked, 49-nothing.
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But rumor has it, it's an asterisk.
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They cheated.
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They did.
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There was a 50-point difference.
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I don't remember the game happening at all.
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It didn't happen.
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I'm just going to say that.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, we're – it sucks, but whatever.
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The nice thing is we are here because we're going to get a new coach out of it.
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And I think the other bit of bookkeeping that came out or business that came out was that –
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The investigation report by the university into Mel Tucker came out and they found that he did sexually harass Brenda Tracy.
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But no one really seemed to notice yesterday because, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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What's that?
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What's happening, guys?
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What's happening?
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What is this portal in my office?
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What is it?
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Oh.
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Hi, everybody, and welcome to The Search, a podcast on the Michigan coaching football search or Michigan football coaching search that isn't going to happen because Jim Harbaugh is not going anywhere, and he did nothing wrong.
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I'm Dearborn Ali.
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I am alumni of the University of Michigan-Dearborn, and I am a super fan.
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I am GoMichiganButBoy69, and I live in a double wide.
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I am Wolvie Ryan.
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I definitely am not white trash.
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And I am Kevin Grex, wife's boyfriend who went to the University of Michigan.
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And and all that that implies.
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Well, anyways, we're all here because we're recording an emergency podcast because the whole world is coming out against us because we're a program that plays it by the book and people are just jealous.
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Just haters.
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Haters.
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We have literally never done anything wrong in our lives.
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The Washington Post, that rad, that piece of yellow journalism just coming out.
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Fucking liberal media.
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I'd much rather listen to somebody who's reputable like Trevor McHugh.
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He definitely knows what he's talking about.
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Clay Travis believes in us.
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You guys have all, you've all kept up to date with Brian's most recent offerings on M-Globe blog, right?
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And there are several.
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Is that a voice?
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Yes, it is.
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And I think that's it.
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I think we circled the wagons.
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I think that we, the leaders and the best deserve this.
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better than this treatment that we're experiencing right now to be both academically superior and athletically superior to everyone.
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It's astounding to me that anyone's not giving us the benefit of the doubt at the moment.
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I think like by the rules, unlike a little brother in East Lansing and the fucking Buckeye scum, pooping coolers and totally haven't owned her ass for two decades.
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Yeah, I mean, they're just jealous of a little bit of success.
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We've been – we're reaching heights that no other program has ever reached before, and they're just jealous.
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I mean, like, sign stealing, everybody does that, man.
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Like, everybody does it.
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Like, I steal signs.
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I have an I-69 sign in my living room.
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I stole that.
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Everyone does it.
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It's fine.
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And even if they didn't.
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It's so much less bad than doing shit like selling your own memorabilia for a couple tattoos.
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That's the worst thing I've ever heard anyone do.
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But yeah, anyways, the whole world is just like coming out against us.
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And they're saying this like crap, like Jim Harbaugh is going to leave.
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And he's not going to leave because Jim Harbaugh's never done anything wrong.
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Ward Manuel will never fire Jim Harbaugh.
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whatever.
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But I mean, we're, we're a podcast that, and a fan base that plays 40 chess.
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So we have to think of all of the possibilities.
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So, um,
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We're going to go over who we think would replace Jim Harbaugh, keep the momentum going, get us a world championship, dominate the world, lead us into war and battle.
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If he were to leave, but he's not going to leave, but if he were to leave, we want to go over who we think should replace God.
Mocking Coaching Searches and Candidates
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I heard that Jason Candle guy from Toledo is pretty good.
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Oh, yeah, he already knows what it's like to be in yellow and blue, right?
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I'm a big fan of culture hires, so I got two guys that would be perfect.
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The first one is the MSU scoreboard operator from last Saturday.
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He would make Edwards feel at home with his glitches.
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And the second one is a guy who I think would be perfect.
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They would even build a statue of an actor given our track record, and that would be Jerry Sandusky.
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No, no, no.
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We have never done anything like that.
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But if we were to, we'd fill a statue of the guy who covered up himself and defend it.
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And we'd do all those quick things.
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Those are my two choices.
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Bo did nothing wrong.
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That DJ Durkin guy would be a great hire, too.
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I mean, he's got past coaching experience in Michigan.
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I feel like that'd be a great idea.
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Yeah, and he works his players really hard.
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At the University of Michigan, we're about work at second.
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Speaking of past coaching experience at the University of Michigan, I actually used to follow them for an outlet that you may have read, the Free Press.
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I was the beat writer and columnist and editor and president of that publication.
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But then I left to take a better job at the Washington Post, we'll say, or something like that, where I am working to make sure that this isn't covered anymore.
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I left around 2013-ish, and I have got to tell you, based on my experience in Michigan up until that time, I proposed to you Ron English as the next University of Michigan football coach.
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The man has...
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grit.
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He's got tenacity.
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He spent years with us.
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He's a true Michigan man.
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Sure, he may have actually gone to Berkeley, but that's not important.
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I think he's seen the light there.
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And he's not afraid to call out shitbirds when he sees them.
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Apparently, over and over again is what
MSU Coaching Candidates Debate
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it says here on the wiki.
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That's why he got fired, because he said shitbird, especially plentifully.
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Anyway, that is my recommendation.
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I actually have an off-the-board one.
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He's 6-1 right now, or 6-2.
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He is transitioning the team up from FCS, and he has some ties to the University of Michigan.
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I present to you, Rich Rodriguez at Jacksonville State.
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I'm sure he'll be willing to take the upgrade to the best program in America.
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Just as long as he gets his players in, right?
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He needs to have his players.
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I heard that Brady Ho guy is pretty good at San Diego State.
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What's his record right now?
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He went back there.
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He never got fired anywhere, so, you know, should work out fine.
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As a Michigan fan, I believe the last name, Roderick, is too culturally insensitive for this program.
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I prefer David Duke.
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Really, man?
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On the subject of Rich Rod, interesting note there, I've also been his wife's boyfriend as well.
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And she was, she was not content.
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I'll just say that.
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Have you ever been in a situation where you were
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In relations with another man.
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Oh, you know all about this.
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You know about relations with another man's wife.
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So then what do you think about Les Miles?
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Again, we're the ethical standard in college football.
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at the University of Michigan.
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Leaders in best.
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Leaders in best.
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We only have the biggest cheating scandal in basketball history, the biggest cheating scandal in football history now, and the biggest sex of UW's cover-up in college history.
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We're doing great.
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Go Blue!
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No, all of those are just lies peddled by liberal media, by the liberal Washington Post.
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If you need to hear the truth, you need to listen to
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To the Michigan podcast.
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Yeah, Steve Deese is actually where I get all my encostments from.
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David Parker Carlson, I have never been led with.
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He was correct today when he said they needed to, I mean, he basically made it sound like they need another January 6th, except this time just defending Michigan football.
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So, you know, that was, he was spot on today.
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That thread, you know.
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Great thread.
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I recommend you go read his thread on Twitter today.
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The Patriots need to go take Schembechler Hall.
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Yeah, we need to organize a movement of Michigan Patriots in front of the Big Ten office in Chicago.
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I have been reading this Michigan Manifesto.
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It's about 600 pages, but it is a... Which one?
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The one by the... The one by Clownestallians or the one by the Minibomber?
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It's... All I know is that all of my phone calls now have a slight delay before they connect ever since I've downloaded this thing.
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And they've got some interesting ideas about Gretchen Wittner.
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But other than that, pretty good material in there.
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All right.
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Well, I think we've come.
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Wait.
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Before, I just want to make sure everyone knows that Harbaugh did nothing wrong.
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Agreed.
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But if there were people that did something wrong, it would be Sharon Moore and Mike Hart and Duran Howard and other people that complex.
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Ron Bellamy.
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Ron Bellamy, yes.
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Ron Bellamy.
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Ward Manuel.
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Oh, yeah, Ward Manuel, definitely.
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Yeah, Harbaugh did nothing wrong.
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He doesn't know anything about what's going on in the program.
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He doesn't know.
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This is all happening with among – if there's anything happening at all, if there's anything happening at all.
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It's a nothing burger.
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But if there is anything happening –
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It's going to be these low-level assistants that are just volunteers for the program.
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He never asked them to do – nothing wrong happened.
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The 97.1 caller who called into Jansen and Stoney this morning and said Harbaugh – the Harbaugh family is the most – Jim Harbaugh has the most integrity of anybody in the state of Michigan.
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Spot-on caller this morning.
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Great call, buddy.
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That was –
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He learned it all from, I don't know if you guys, how close you are to the program, but Shemi, fantastic guy.
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If you get to meet him, again, similar ideas to the Michigan Manifesto that I've been reading, but just like a straight shooter, and Jim's a huge fan, and so am I. Also a casual fit.
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So, guys, I think we've kind of covered it.
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Jim Harbaugh is not going anywhere.
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But if he is, which he's not, he's definitely not because nothing wrong happened.
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We got a bunch of – If he does go anywhere, which he's not, there's a bunch of great guys, great cultural fits ready to step up and take that mantle and lead Michigan into the promised land and to the White House.
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So anyways, that's it for the search, a podcast on the Michigan non-search for its next football coach.
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I'm Dearborn Ali.
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I'm go Michigan, but boy 69.
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Wolvie Ryan.
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And Kevin Grek and also Rich Rodriguez's wife's boyfriend.
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Oh, wow.
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That was weird.
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What the hell just happened for the last 10 minutes, guys?
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I felt like I was just like taken into a void and everything, but...
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Yeah, we're going to move on into the coaching candidates.
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But before we do, anything you want to add, Greg?
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Because it sounds like you're kind of on a tight little schedule.
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I'm on a tight little schedule.
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Also a tight little chested guy.
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So I'm going to let you guys go.
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But it has been an absolute pleasure being on here.
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I appreciate it so much.
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And everyone do subscribe right now.
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If you're listening to this, do it.
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All right.
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Thanks, Greg.
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And that was Greg from can't read, can't write.
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Um, our podcast parents, uh, anyways, so, uh, we're going to go and go into our next segment, the coaching candidate tracker.
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I've kind of, I think we've kind of called this list a little bit.
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Um, uh, we've kind of called this list a little bit.
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Um, uh, we've,
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I think a couple of folks have dropped off.
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I would say that we've kind of lost interest in Leipold and Kleeman.
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We got our Alcoves, we got our Dickerts and we got our Huffs.
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So let's start going through.
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John Lewis is probably gone now too, right?
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Yeah, I think Sean Lewis is probably gone.
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So I'm going to start with Zanjo and I'm going to have him go over his guy who he's been texting us all week is going to be the next coach.
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I don't want to hear about another coach coming.
00:18:21
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Yeah, so people in the RCMB, I guess, want to see the most recent updates, but
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What's going on right now with Last I Heard was it's basically up to Urban at this point if he wants the job or not.
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The money's all there.
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Administration's all mine.
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We're good to go.
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He's done it.
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C-O-M-E.
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Do you think Rima Vassar will try and stop this?
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Yes.
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We should never hire anyone with the last name that ends with Ather ever again.
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Oh my god.
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We're like over a million right now.
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Well, here's the thing.
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We didn't hire her.
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Like, you dumbasses voted for her in Michigan.
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I know, I know.
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Yeah, it's, I mean, we could probably get into it if we want to in the next segment, but like, yeah.
Personal Reflections Amidst Coaching Drama
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They need to change how the Board of Trustees gets selected.
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Yeah, it's kind of a mess.
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Yeah, the rule of Whitmer is going to change that, actually.
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But
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We should probably not listen to her Michigan counterpart for opinions on her.
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But yeah, I mean, honestly, after that game that probably in a few weeks won't matter anymore because it by law would not have it happened.
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I was like –
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Yeah, I've come around to the urban idea.
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I mean, I'm like, I want to beat these fuckers out of existence next year.
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And I want to win for like three, four years.
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I mean, that was happening at the depths of my despair.
00:20:05
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But all the shit that's happened this week that's distracted us from our dumpster fire has kind of brought me back to reality a little bit.
00:20:15
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And I'm still – my number one guy is still Mike Alco.
00:20:19
Speaker
And I think he can get it done here.
00:20:24
Speaker
He did just lose to Florida State, but Florida State has dudes.
00:20:29
Speaker
But he's – What?
00:20:32
Speaker
Leonard didn't play.
00:20:33
Speaker
He's out for the year.
00:20:35
Speaker
He didn't.
00:20:35
Speaker
They're a.17.
00:20:36
Speaker
He got hurt.
00:20:38
Speaker
Or maybe they're down 24-20.
00:20:39
Speaker
But it was a one-four game when he got hurt.
00:20:42
Speaker
So, like, Duke was really impressive.
00:20:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:45
Speaker
No, they're well coached.
00:20:47
Speaker
I mean, I guess we're kind of going already moving on here, I guess.
00:20:50
Speaker
I don't know.
00:20:51
Speaker
But they're well coached.
00:20:52
Speaker
But I'm still – I'm still – if they can get Urban to come, I'm still on that train.
00:20:57
Speaker
Like, I know.
00:20:59
Speaker
I've said it before.
00:21:00
Speaker
He's a piece of shit.
00:21:01
Speaker
And like feel a little bit dirty about it, but he'd come in here, he'd win.
00:21:08
Speaker
And he'd probably name a successor.
00:21:10
Speaker
I mean, I know that hasn't grown great at Ohio state, but he'd probably bring a guy that would be the coach in waiting.
00:21:15
Speaker
So like you've at least got that stability.
00:21:19
Speaker
Once you, whatever happens, like there winds up, he just burns down and he's gone.
00:21:25
Speaker
Like he's not going to be here long term.
00:21:27
Speaker
Like we already know that, but I'm still,
00:21:30
Speaker
That's still my number one guy.
00:21:31
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Because, like, the thing is, and I've read this from urban proponents, is, yeah, he's not going to be here for three, four years, but whoever he brings with him will probably be the next coach if he comes here, right?
00:21:45
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And, I mean, other than Zach Smith, he has a good eye for coaching talent.
00:21:52
Speaker
That was a pretty big wish.
00:21:54
Speaker
Just a little bit.
00:21:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:21:57
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Probably, that's probably the biggest blemish on his record.
00:22:02
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Probably?
00:22:03
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Not great.
00:22:04
Speaker
Not great.
00:22:05
Speaker
We'll deal with that about Aaron Hernandez, but.
00:22:09
Speaker
Both of them, not great, but yeah, I still don't think it's going to happen.
00:22:14
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I know Zanjo keeps on saying he's coming here.
00:22:17
Speaker
I'm still not buying it, but.
00:22:19
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Urban Meyer is certifiably not a good dude, but certifiably a great football coach.
00:22:24
Speaker
One of the best college football coaches ever.
00:22:27
Speaker
Probably a top five.
00:22:29
Speaker
Yeah, if he wants to coach, he's coming here.
00:22:32
Speaker
MSU's not getting in the way.
00:22:35
Speaker
I don't know, man.
00:22:36
Speaker
Board of Trustees will do something to screw that shit up.
00:22:38
Speaker
The board said they're going to stay out of the way.
00:22:41
Speaker
Yeah, bullshit.
00:22:42
Speaker
I think that was a huge assault-taking assault.
00:22:46
Speaker
When have they ever not gotten in the way?
00:22:49
Speaker
They're too busy fighting amongst themselves right now.
00:22:52
Speaker
I hope you're right, dude.
00:22:53
Speaker
Yeah, they got a lot of problems themselves.
00:22:57
Speaker
Elko would be a solid, real solid 1B, though.
00:23:01
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Only thing I'm a little worried about with him is Jimbo's about to create a worldwide recession by tripling the price of oil.
00:23:12
Speaker
So when they buy him out,
00:23:14
Speaker
He might be interested.
00:23:15
Speaker
Elko might be interested in the name.
00:23:16
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's not a matter of if it happens.
00:23:20
Speaker
I think it's a matter of when.
00:23:22
Speaker
I think Jimbo's done at A&M.
00:23:24
Speaker
I would be shocked if he's the coach there next year.
00:23:26
Speaker
They'll buy his contract now.
00:23:28
Speaker
They'll pay the $77 million or whatever the hell it is.
00:23:31
Speaker
Jimbo Fisher's cheerleading the war in the Middle East right now.
00:23:34
Speaker
I'll be like, let's go!
00:23:38
Speaker
I was really trying not to sidetrack us, but how insane is it that Jimbo Fisher's about to influence worldwide foreign policy?
College Football Economics Absurdity
00:23:47
Speaker
Just because he lost a fucking LSU or some shit.
00:23:52
Speaker
Like all those Texas oil guys are just going to be like, all right, guys, we need to cut back on fracking.
00:23:59
Speaker
We got to get our boys up in Alberta to stop fracking.
00:24:02
Speaker
We got to bump the price of oil to $120 a barrel.
00:24:06
Speaker
And we got to start another war because we got to buy out Jimbo Fisher.
00:24:10
Speaker
A&M Guitar is about to be the fucking richest school on the planet.
00:24:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:24:15
Speaker
They're going to just build like – I mean, we talk about building the giant Spartan statue.
00:24:23
Speaker
They're going to build like a fucking – they're Aggies, right?
00:24:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:24:31
Speaker
big-ass barn or something?
00:24:32
Speaker
I don't know.
00:24:34
Speaker
Like a gold statue of, like, a Texas farmer or whatever?
00:24:39
Speaker
They're going to build a huge statue of Reveille.
00:24:42
Speaker
And all the cadets down there are going to have to bow down to it.
00:24:47
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:24:49
Speaker
The dog at Texas A&M actually runs that school.
00:24:52
Speaker
Everyone is technically below her in, like, the, like, what do you call it?
00:24:58
Speaker
Hierarchy.
00:25:00
Speaker
But, yeah, I mean, I think they're going to go after – I think they might go after Lane Kiffin.
00:25:06
Speaker
Dude, all right, he's not going to come here.
00:25:12
Speaker
But you know how funny it would be if we hired Lane Kiffin?
00:25:15
Speaker
Yeah, imagine – yeah.
00:25:17
Speaker
Michigan fans hated D'Antonio.
00:25:18
Speaker
They hate Lane Kiffin a hundred times more than they hated D'Antonio.
00:25:22
Speaker
And imagine, like, imagine, like, how much it's been – Go ahead.
00:25:27
Speaker
Sorry.
00:25:28
Speaker
Imagine how much he's going to troll whatever scrub they hired to carry their dumpster fire program next year.
00:25:35
Speaker
Like, oh, yeah, you guys, how's your bowl game?
00:25:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah, you're not going to one because you can't.
00:25:43
Speaker
I mean, obviously, he's going to be wittier than that, but yeah.
00:25:47
Speaker
Lane Tiffin is D'Antonio with charisma.
00:25:50
Speaker
Yeah, but D'Antonio won titles.
00:25:55
Speaker
I mean, Lane's done a pretty good job at Ole Miss.
00:25:58
Speaker
He just happens to coach Ole Miss.
00:26:00
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:00
Speaker
If he came here, he might make something.
00:26:02
Speaker
I would take him if he wanted to come here, but he's not going to leave Ole Miss to come here.
00:26:07
Speaker
It's not happening.
00:26:09
Speaker
Yeah, because have you seen the growth?
00:26:13
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:15
Speaker
True.
00:26:16
Speaker
Joey Freshwater coming.
00:26:18
Speaker
Well, we have Freshwater here.
00:26:19
Speaker
That's true.
00:26:22
Speaker
What do you guys think about Dickert, Huff, and Smith?
00:26:25
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Because Dickert's 4-3 now.
00:26:28
Speaker
Huff is 4-3.
00:26:30
Speaker
Huff?
00:26:31
Speaker
But Jonathan Smith, he's 6-1.
00:26:34
Speaker
I like him.
00:26:34
Speaker
He's probably my third guy now.
00:26:38
Speaker
I would say it's probably Smith.
00:26:42
Speaker
The one issue with him for me is he's a West Coast dude.
00:26:46
Speaker
He doesn't really have any experience in the Midwest, so he'd have to hire him.
00:26:50
Speaker
Some guys, even on his staff now, they don't really have any Midwest connections.
00:26:55
Speaker
So he would have to hire some guys on his staff that have Midwest ties.
00:26:58
Speaker
Like, I think that, like, obviously you're not going to tell him this, but I think kind of a condition of him coming here would be like, you have to keep like Cody Hawkins on staff or something.
00:27:07
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Right.
00:27:08
Speaker
Like that would make sense.
00:27:09
Speaker
Yeah, of course.
00:27:11
Speaker
But like, I, that's the one thing that would worry me.
00:27:14
Speaker
Like, is he a, is he a fit here?
00:27:17
Speaker
Right.
00:27:18
Speaker
He's not, he hasn't coached.
00:27:20
Speaker
East of Montana, ever.
00:27:22
Speaker
So... Fit is just who your coach is, in my opinion.
00:27:26
Speaker
Sure, of course.
00:27:27
Speaker
If he came here, I think he'd... If he can coach, he can do fun.
00:27:32
Speaker
And... He would just have to hire... Like I said, he would have to hire guys with Midwest ties.
00:27:36
Speaker
Here's the thing about Fit, though.
00:27:37
Speaker
And here's the other thing about Fit.
00:27:38
Speaker
It's like, you look at how to play stylistically, and I think I mentioned this last time, or I mentioned this to you in person or someone, but... Dude, they bullied Utah.
00:27:47
Speaker
That doesn't fucking happen.
00:27:48
Speaker
Utah might be the toughest program in the country.
00:27:50
Speaker
And Oregon State took it to them.
00:27:54
Speaker
Like that, it's like Pete D'Antonio level of just asserting dominance on your opponent.
00:27:59
Speaker
It's obvious.
00:28:00
Speaker
No, it's obvious he's a great coach.
00:28:03
Speaker
Like I said, that's the one concern I have about him.
00:28:07
Speaker
He's not, and would he leave Oregon State?
00:28:11
Speaker
Like he's an alum.
00:28:13
Speaker
They're,
00:28:14
Speaker
Probably about to wind up in the Mountain West.
00:28:16
Speaker
I don't know if he wants to leave them high and dry.
00:28:19
Speaker
That's another thing that I'm like, I don't know if he would leave.
Jonathan Smith's Potential Midwest Fit
00:28:22
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Someone said he reached out.
00:28:25
Speaker
I can't remember where I saw that, but I don't wait too much time on fucking RCMBS.
00:28:34
Speaker
What about Dickert?
00:28:37
Speaker
I wouldn't hate it, but I'm not as high on him as I was a few weeks ago.
00:28:44
Speaker
He is falling below the elbow line for me.
00:28:47
Speaker
He's definitely, he's definitely in that like third tier now, I think of dudes.
00:28:52
Speaker
And then I also think, I think he's kind of eliminated himself in the conversation.
00:28:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:58
Speaker
He's a guy where I think that he, it would do him well to take like a job like Indiana or Northwestern.
00:29:05
Speaker
That's, that's the type of job he would wind up at.
00:29:07
Speaker
I don't think, I think MSU can do better than him.
00:29:10
Speaker
And I'm not saying he's a bad coach or anything.
00:29:13
Speaker
but he doesn't have any Power 5 experience as a head coach.
00:29:17
Speaker
And their offense, I don't know if you guys have watched a lot of their games this year, but their offense is not good.
00:29:26
Speaker
Their special team is very weird.
00:29:29
Speaker
They had a nice kicker turn against JMU, but they did not.
00:29:33
Speaker
Dude, our special team, I will say this.
00:29:37
Speaker
Next year's special teams cannot be any worse than this year's special teams.
00:29:41
Speaker
No, it literally doesn't.
00:29:42
Speaker
So there is that.
00:29:44
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know how Rothel collects paychecks at this point.
00:29:47
Speaker
Yeah, that's a whole different story.
00:29:50
Speaker
He's the worst coach to ever coach football at Michigan State.
00:29:54
Speaker
He is horrible.
00:29:56
Speaker
The one thing I'll say about Rothel is I think he was up the talent level.
00:29:59
Speaker
It's kind of like the Mel Tucker thing where even if it didn't work out, he'd leave here.
00:30:05
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with a better talent base than he came in with.
00:30:08
Speaker
I feel like Huff would kind of do the same thing.
00:30:10
Speaker
We know he can recruit.
00:30:12
Speaker
We just don't know if he can coach.
00:30:14
Speaker
My thing with Huff, I get he did a good job of Mississippi State recruiting, but he was recruiting at Penn State and Alabama.
00:30:23
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It's not that hard to do.
00:30:25
Speaker
Also, Mississippi State, I think.
00:30:28
Speaker
I mean, I agree, it's not hard to do, but he was also an eighth superior there.
00:30:31
Speaker
So I think he –
00:30:32
Speaker
I'm not worried about his recruiting.
00:30:33
Speaker
I'm worried about his actual coaching at the highest around him.
00:30:38
Speaker
I agree with that, but I think his recruiting to an extent is overstated.
00:30:42
Speaker
Probably a little bit, but even like, so like, he's a better recruiter than Mel Tucker was, put it that way.
00:30:46
Speaker
And Mel Tucker was able to bring in enough to have a top 25-ish talent roster.
00:30:53
Speaker
I think Huff would at least keep that going.
00:30:58
Speaker
Another point I kind of wanted to make, and I brought this up,
00:31:01
Speaker
I think I brought this up on, no, I don't, I didn't bring this up on Twitter, but I brought this up in chat.
00:31:05
Speaker
I mean, I kind of want the next coach did not like abandon Ohio.
00:31:12
Speaker
I get the talent level isn't as good as it was there 10 years ago, but I want to take more of a shot on second tier guys in that state because we haven't really done that.
00:31:22
Speaker
And I get part of it is like I said, the talent level there isn't as good as it was 10 years ago, but,
00:31:28
Speaker
it feels like we just kind of abandoned it.
00:31:30
Speaker
And then Mel had that size thing.
00:31:33
Speaker
I'm kind of glad you brought up Ohio because there is someone we haven't talked about yet.
00:31:40
Speaker
I know a team of his name linked and I kind of want to hear your take on it.
00:31:46
Speaker
And we mentioned it last time, but Nickel, I know he's kind of had his own weird thing going on in Wisconsin.
00:31:52
Speaker
If he wanted to come here, I'd take him in a heartbeat.
00:31:55
Speaker
I know we'd upgrade.
00:31:57
Speaker
I know we'd upgrade
00:31:58
Speaker
Even for Cincinnati, at least.
00:32:00
Speaker
You know, some people have brought this up, and maybe he regrets not taking that job because Wisconsin kind of has a history of not paying their coaches or putting money into their football program.
00:32:13
Speaker
MSU doesn't have that problem.
00:32:15
Speaker
They'll do the really weird thing with their academics where they want their ethics to be... Right.
00:32:21
Speaker
That's why Gary Anderson left.
00:32:23
Speaker
That's why he left.
00:32:24
Speaker
Look at the history of their coaches.
00:32:26
Speaker
They had...
00:32:27
Speaker
Burt leave for Arkansas, kind of a lateral job.
00:32:31
Speaker
And they had Gary Anderson leave for Oregon state, which is a much worse job than Wisconsin is.
00:32:36
Speaker
And it was because of the academic restrictions.
00:32:39
Speaker
So maybe he's went there and he realized, Oh, the, the restrictions here are kind of a pain.
00:32:46
Speaker
Cause that's why Craig Evans didn't go to Wisconsin was because he didn't, I'm serious.
00:32:51
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That's exactly what happened.
00:32:53
Speaker
Um, he, that's why he wound up at MSU.
00:32:56
Speaker
But, um,
00:32:57
Speaker
Maybe he's realizing, hey, these academic restrictions are kind of a pain.
00:33:00
Speaker
Like, they're not like Northwestern, but they're still annoying.
00:33:04
Speaker
And they don't put – maybe he's not getting the fundraising for the football program he wants.
00:33:09
Speaker
So – So what's the space is gone now, too, Alvarez?
00:33:12
Speaker
Right.
00:33:13
Speaker
Exactly.
00:33:14
Speaker
So – and – Is Alvarez still there anymore?
00:33:18
Speaker
No, he retired.
00:33:19
Speaker
He retired.
00:33:20
Speaker
He's not there.
00:33:20
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:21
Speaker
Yeah, they had a nice little university commercial for him, too.
00:33:25
Speaker
I mean, obviously you call Fickle.
00:33:27
Speaker
You see what he says.
00:33:29
Speaker
He says no is what it is.
00:33:30
Speaker
But, I mean, I could see why he might want to leave.
00:33:34
Speaker
It would kind of be a bad look after one year, but who cares?
00:33:38
Speaker
If he wanted to come here, I'd take him.
00:33:39
Speaker
I'll have to look like Rob Riggle.
00:33:42
Speaker
So you can just feel power every time he says something.
00:33:46
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess I'll like a different, I guess like, we
Coaching Styles and MSU Prospects
00:33:51
Speaker
could probably go into it.
00:33:51
Speaker
Like, I kind of made a big deal about this on the Twitter account.
00:33:56
Speaker
But like, I was at the Oregon Washington game.
00:34:00
Speaker
And that was a lot of fun.
00:34:02
Speaker
And I was just like, I know Washington won.
00:34:04
Speaker
And I know like, we're all on Kalen DeBoer's dick.
00:34:07
Speaker
But I know that, Zangel, you brought up this name before, Dan Lanning.
00:34:12
Speaker
And I was watching Oregon play.
00:34:14
Speaker
And I was a little bit drunk when this was going down.
00:34:19
Speaker
But I was watching that game, and I'm watching Bo Nix, and I'm watching that offense run.
00:34:24
Speaker
And I'm like, Caten Houser can do this.
00:34:26
Speaker
Dude, I'm – Dan Lanning – I think Dan Lanning over everyone, but the problem is I think he makes like $8 million a year with $20 million.
00:34:33
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He's not leaving Oregon to come back.
00:34:35
Speaker
It's not happening.
00:34:36
Speaker
It was kind of a pipe dream.
00:34:38
Speaker
It was like a 1% chance.
00:34:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:41
Speaker
I don't think – Again.
00:34:42
Speaker
It's like a 1% type thing.
00:34:44
Speaker
That's a dude you call and he says no, he says no.
00:34:48
Speaker
Exactly.
00:34:48
Speaker
You probably call him.
00:34:50
Speaker
Exactly.
00:34:51
Speaker
The point we've made before with that job –
00:34:55
Speaker
is that Oregon's going to be getting half of the money that the other Big Ten teams are for what, until like, what, 2030 or whatever it is?
00:35:01
Speaker
Until the next ED contracts at 2030.
00:35:02
Speaker
Right.
00:35:03
Speaker
So that's interesting.
00:35:06
Speaker
I think that they'd have a much better shot at DeVore, obviously.
00:35:09
Speaker
Because... Yeah, DeVore was the guy I actually wanted to bring up.
00:35:11
Speaker
Their AD, I don't know if you... I'm sure you guys saw, but he was talking about... Yeah.
00:35:15
Speaker
Yeah, they were like... He was like, well, we can... He was basically talking about spending and not spending a ton of money.
00:35:22
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We would agree with DeVore.
00:35:23
Speaker
Right.
00:35:24
Speaker
So maybe they're not willing to pay.
00:35:27
Speaker
I mean, they're going to probably try to give him a contract.
00:35:30
Speaker
I mean, if MSU wants to throw $10 million at him a year, I ain't going to complain about it.
00:35:35
Speaker
So what I'm really impressed about with DeBoer, I'm sorry, I'm just kind of pivoting to him because I don't think we have more than a 1% chance of Lanning or Norvell, which I can be really thrilled either of them, but I don't think it's happening.
00:35:50
Speaker
What I'm really impressed with DeBoer about is –
00:35:53
Speaker
Washington won differently.
00:35:55
Speaker
They won like a low scoring defensive slugfest.
00:35:59
Speaker
Panics wasn't on and they kind of just mucked their way to a win.
00:36:06
Speaker
Which I value.
00:36:07
Speaker
I know a lot of people have been kind of making fun of Washington and kind of shitting on them.
00:36:10
Speaker
I kind of value the ability to win ugly.
00:36:15
Speaker
In the Big Ten we have a lot of ugly... We watched Russia play.
00:36:19
Speaker
We're going to have a lot of ugly games.
00:36:22
Speaker
So I kind of value that.
00:36:24
Speaker
And I think he's a really good coach.
00:36:26
Speaker
And he only has a three and a half million a year.
00:36:28
Speaker
Yeah, I agree with you on the ASU game point last week.
00:36:33
Speaker
Yeah, they played like shit.
00:36:34
Speaker
They found a way to win.
00:36:35
Speaker
I mean, last year they lost him.
00:36:37
Speaker
So, you know, they found a way to win that game.
00:36:40
Speaker
And Pennix didn't have a good game at all.
00:36:42
Speaker
They still found a way to win.
00:36:44
Speaker
I also think Dillingham has a lot of other goals that are getting credit for right now.
00:36:48
Speaker
Yeah, that's a guy, if he was in this cycle, I'd think about him.
00:36:54
Speaker
But he obviously – he's not leaving Arizona State because he's an alum there.
00:36:58
Speaker
I mean, I would never leave Arizona State either.
00:37:01
Speaker
The only thing that would get me to leave Arizona State is, yeah, maybe, like, I don't like coaching on Saturdays in 110-degree weather.
00:37:10
Speaker
But, like, I can have a pool.
00:37:13
Speaker
I can play golf.
00:37:15
Speaker
And it's nice.
00:37:18
Speaker
That's all I'll say.
00:37:19
Speaker
You want to know who would really love Arizona State?
00:37:21
Speaker
Lane Tiffin.
00:37:22
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Urban Meyer.
00:37:23
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Mel Tucker.
00:37:25
Speaker
Mel Tucker would love Arizona State.
00:37:28
Speaker
Yes.
00:37:28
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:37:29
Speaker
The other thing about Dillingham is he does have a lot of familiarity with Washington being the king from Oregon.
00:37:34
Speaker
And if Oregon – and Oregon-Washington is supposed to be pretty heated.
00:37:36
Speaker
If it's anything like Michigan-Ohio State, I know they're watching each other play all the time.
00:37:42
Speaker
And Dillingham, we're kind of going on – I mean, I don't know.
00:37:46
Speaker
I guess I brought him up.
00:37:47
Speaker
He's not going to come here.
00:37:48
Speaker
But he was the reason that Dante Moore was committed to Oregon.
00:37:51
Speaker
So, yeah.
00:37:54
Speaker
Dude, he might be involved in this hardball shit.
00:37:57
Speaker
So that might be a no at this point.
00:38:00
Speaker
That's true.
00:38:03
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:03
Speaker
So I don't know.
00:38:05
Speaker
Because he's done a pretty impressive job.
00:38:08
Speaker
My thing with him is he makes really stupid in-game coaching decisions.
00:38:12
Speaker
Mel Tucker.
00:38:13
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
00:38:15
Speaker
So I don't know.
00:38:17
Speaker
I wouldn't hate Jed Fish.
00:38:20
Speaker
But I wouldn't be, like, overly enthused about it.
00:38:23
Speaker
I could get behind him.
00:38:24
Speaker
He's not a guy I would drop my season tickets if they hired him.
00:38:28
Speaker
Like, there's multiple guys where if they hire a dude, I'm dropping my season tickets.
00:38:31
Speaker
I wouldn't drop my season tickets.
00:38:32
Speaker
I wouldn't be super excited about it, but I would support him.
00:38:36
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:36
Speaker
So.
00:38:38
Speaker
Well, I guess it's time for the power rankings then.
00:38:40
Speaker
We added a bunch of names, but I guess, like.
00:38:45
Speaker
We could just rank whatever.
00:38:47
Speaker
I mean, whoever you brought up, rank them or based on like likelihood and who you really want.
00:38:53
Speaker
So I'm just going to give it to you, Ryan.
00:38:55
Speaker
Like what are your power rankings right now?
00:38:57
Speaker
I've got Urban 1A, Elko 1B, and then I would put – these are realistic because I don't think DeBoer or Lanning would come here or Kiffin.
00:39:12
Speaker
Plan B is probably Jonathan Smith.
00:39:16
Speaker
And then after that, you know, those are the three guys around, like, I guess maybe Charles Huff is, like, plan C. I don't know.
00:39:26
Speaker
Him and Dickard are probably plan C1, plan C2.
00:39:31
Speaker
And then who else?
00:39:32
Speaker
We talked about Jed Fish, probably D. I think he would leave to go.
Cultural Fit in Coaching Choices
00:39:37
Speaker
I think he would leave Arizona to come here.
00:39:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:41
Speaker
And obviously, we kind of dropped Sean Lewis and the two Kansas coaches, so.
00:39:46
Speaker
I think that's probably my list at this point.
00:39:49
Speaker
What about you, Zanjo?
00:39:51
Speaker
Urban one.
00:39:52
Speaker
I think DeBoer is more realistic than Ryan does.
00:39:54
Speaker
I don't think Ron or Valorant or any of those guys come in here.
00:39:57
Speaker
So I think DeBoer 2A, Elko 2B, John Smith 2C.
00:40:03
Speaker
After that, I don't know, man.
00:40:05
Speaker
I think after that, I think Chad looks like Ryan Grubb or anyone else who's listed.
00:40:10
Speaker
What do you guys think about Jamie Chadwell?
00:40:14
Speaker
He's kind of brought up a little bit.
00:40:16
Speaker
No, I get the Liberty aspect.
00:40:18
Speaker
He did troll Michigan.
00:40:19
Speaker
That's part of why I brought this up.
00:40:22
Speaker
He trolled Michigan last week.
00:40:25
Speaker
I just don't think he's a cultural fit.
00:40:28
Speaker
I mean, he's a Southern dude.
00:40:32
Speaker
He's super, super religious.
00:40:35
Speaker
The religious thing doesn't bother me because D'Antonio was super religious.
00:40:39
Speaker
Yeah, but D'Antonio didn't put it in your face.
00:40:41
Speaker
Yeah, he didn't push it on you.
00:40:43
Speaker
D'Antonio was Catholic.
00:40:46
Speaker
D'Antonio was a super religious guy, but like Ali said, he didn't push it on people.
00:40:53
Speaker
If he got asked about it, he would talk about it.
00:40:56
Speaker
For the record, that's also my one issue with Chad Lowe.
00:40:59
Speaker
I think he's kind of... I don't think it plays as well up here as it does.
00:41:03
Speaker
It's a Clemson, for example.
00:41:06
Speaker
No, we're a school of heathens.
00:41:08
Speaker
We're a school of godless heathens.
00:41:10
Speaker
I mean, abortion's legal in Michigan.
00:41:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:13
Speaker
I don't think Chadwell gets a big SEC offer.
00:41:17
Speaker
He's gone.
00:41:18
Speaker
He's not staying here.
00:41:20
Speaker
Yeah, he'll go to Texas A&M.
00:41:23
Speaker
Actually, that might be a good fit.
00:41:25
Speaker
I think A&M fans would be pissed.
00:41:28
Speaker
Liberty to A&M might be the only... A&M might be the one school in this country with more culpish liberty.
00:41:34
Speaker
Yes, that is so true.
00:41:36
Speaker
That's a place, man.
00:41:37
Speaker
That's a place.
00:41:38
Speaker
I don't know.
00:41:39
Speaker
Michigan counts, too.
00:41:41
Speaker
Yeah, Michigan's really going up the power rankings.
00:41:46
Speaker
For me, Elko won, eh?
00:41:51
Speaker
I don't know how I feel about Urban, but, like, I think Urban...
00:41:57
Speaker
I'm not going to power rank urban because I don't think he's realistic.
00:42:02
Speaker
I don't think he's going to be the coach.
00:42:04
Speaker
I don't know how I feel about wanting him.
00:42:06
Speaker
I think like I was in a depressed mood.
00:42:10
Speaker
My girlfriend wasn't here.
00:42:12
Speaker
She's been in California all week.
00:42:15
Speaker
I've been lonely, sad.
00:42:16
Speaker
Okay.
00:42:19
Speaker
I know what to do with my life.
00:42:21
Speaker
And that's when I tweeted about, okay, I'm on board with urban, but now that I've had time to step back,
00:42:27
Speaker
I had Cheatgate, the manifesto Twitter, and Blue Anon going ape shit on Twitter.
00:42:35
Speaker
I've had time to step back, reassess my life, and realize we're not in that bad of a spot.
00:42:41
Speaker
Urban's not on my list.
00:42:43
Speaker
However, I think there's more fire to the smoke coming out of Wisconsin.
00:42:50
Speaker
Fickle 1B.
00:42:52
Speaker
If Fickle wants to come here,
00:42:56
Speaker
Bring his ass over here.
00:42:57
Speaker
Let's go.
00:42:57
Speaker
I want to put Fickle 1B on my power rank.
00:43:01
Speaker
I would put him 1C on mine.
00:43:02
Speaker
Or 2B.
00:43:04
Speaker
I think hiring Fickle would make the last four years as if they never happened.
00:43:12
Speaker
Reunite the fan base and...
00:43:16
Speaker
I'm trying to have that.
00:43:18
Speaker
What?
00:43:19
Speaker
Masala's gone now, so we don't have to worry about anyone calling him a Waffling Flake.
00:43:24
Speaker
Yeah, you don't have to worry about a board member calling him a Waffling Flake this time, so there's that.
00:43:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:32
Speaker
And then, so I had Elko, Fickle.
00:43:35
Speaker
I think Jonathan Smith is like a two for me.
00:43:38
Speaker
Um, yeah.
00:43:39
Speaker
I mean, if I lived on the West coast, which I do right now, uh, I don't know if I'd want, and I've known
Jonathan Smith's Career Decisions
00:43:45
Speaker
only the West coast.
00:43:45
Speaker
I think the Midwest is generally unappealing to me.
00:43:48
Speaker
Sorry guys.
00:43:50
Speaker
Um, so yeah.
00:43:52
Speaker
And also like, I think the lady was talking about this, but like he's there, it's a tumultuous time at his school at the school that he went to.
00:44:03
Speaker
he probably wants to see the ship through the storm.
00:44:08
Speaker
So he doesn't want to come, whatever.
00:44:11
Speaker
And then, yeah, I was watching, I've been watching Wazoo and I've been watching like just the vibes around Dicker.
00:44:18
Speaker
And I'm just like, I wonder, I wonder if he gets the job, if Hazleton stays, if he keeps Hazleton.
00:44:31
Speaker
Hell no.
00:44:31
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:32
Speaker
So...
00:44:34
Speaker
I'm like, for me, it's Elko or bust.
00:44:38
Speaker
And I am a piss poor analyst of the sport.
00:44:42
Speaker
So those are my power rankings.
00:44:45
Speaker
It's like Elko, Fickle, maybe Smith.
00:44:50
Speaker
We'll reconvene in a couple weeks and see what's up.
00:44:52
Speaker
But yeah.
00:44:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's definitely, the list is definitely shrunk.
00:44:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:58
Speaker
I mean, there's been some, like, Jetfish kind of emerged a little bit, but like,
00:45:03
Speaker
Who knows what's going to happen with him?
00:45:05
Speaker
Is he going to be implicated in this hardball stuff?
00:45:09
Speaker
I will say, though, that I think that's a really interesting point you made about Smith, but that's actually the same reason I think he'd leave.
00:45:17
Speaker
Because we've seen someone like Matt Campbell overstay his welcome.
00:45:21
Speaker
So, like, Oregon State can go down to Mountain West and dominate, but you can also go to the Big Ten with Big Ten money, Big Ten level of prestige,
00:45:33
Speaker
much better job and do really well too.
00:45:38
Speaker
He could bring Ochocinco up to the stadium.
00:45:41
Speaker
Yeah, that's right.
00:45:43
Speaker
I forgot he went to Oregon State.
00:45:46
Speaker
Yeah, no, they played together.
00:45:48
Speaker
I saw a video.
00:45:49
Speaker
I saw a highlight video of Jonathan Smith passing the ball to Ochocinco.
00:45:53
Speaker
He's so wild.
00:45:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:57
Speaker
And look, Oregon State's good enough to take a broken playoff this year, I think.
00:46:02
Speaker
I don't know if they drop down to Mount West if they're still in that maybe the first year, but I don't know how long that's sustainable.
00:46:11
Speaker
I mean, they still leave.
00:46:14
Speaker
They were talking that their budget's going to drop like $30 million a year or some shit with the TV.
00:46:18
Speaker
Yeah, they just built a brand new thing.
00:46:20
Speaker
Or they did a whole bunch of renovations in the stadium, too.
00:46:23
Speaker
Right.
00:46:24
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:26
Speaker
But yeah, I'm still on the urban train, guys.
00:46:29
Speaker
But I mean, I don't think he'll come here.
00:46:32
Speaker
But I don't think it's like a 0% chance like some people do.
00:46:36
Speaker
I would take it.
00:46:38
Speaker
But Elko, I would be just as happy with.
00:46:41
Speaker
So, you know.
00:46:43
Speaker
Real quick thing about Urban.
00:46:46
Speaker
I don't know if we talked about this the first time we did a podcast.
00:46:49
Speaker
But I think the people who act like your options are Urban or nothing are idiots.
00:46:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:00
Speaker
Those people are more annoying than the people that are like, I get why some people are saying like hell no to him.
00:47:05
Speaker
But those are the people that are just saying urban, if urban doesn't come here to wash coaches or, I mean, that's just not true.
00:47:12
Speaker
Right.
00:47:12
Speaker
It sounds ridiculous.
Comparing High-Profile Coach Hires
00:47:13
Speaker
Actually, that's kind of what I want to touch on is that all of these people that don't want urban for moral reasons are every bit in the right to feel that way.
00:47:23
Speaker
Um,
00:47:24
Speaker
I personally want him as my one A, but if you don't want him because you don't like things he does, people don't need to shame those people because, well, the alternative between Urban, you're not choosing Urban and 6 and 6, you're choosing Urban and another probably really good coach that wants to come here.
00:47:47
Speaker
We looked at four or five guys that the chance of all of them saying no was pretty slim.
00:47:54
Speaker
You may be on like 24 on that list, but you'll find someone.
00:47:58
Speaker
It's not like it's Urban or Indiana.
00:48:01
Speaker
Man, if we get past Charles Huff on this stuff, we're screwed.
00:48:04
Speaker
I'll say that.
00:48:05
Speaker
That's when it's getting bad.
00:48:07
Speaker
If that dude says no and stays at Marshall, I might jump off the top of Spartan Stadium.
00:48:13
Speaker
I didn't say Dicker.
00:48:14
Speaker
If we're hiring someone like... I'll even say if we're hiring Dicker, we're at the point of... Yikes.
00:48:23
Speaker
You know, yeah, I mean, I'm not super excited about it if it happens, but it's not a guy that's making me cancel my season ticket.
00:48:30
Speaker
And there's also the possibility that the next coach is none of these guys.
00:48:35
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, there could be somebody that emerges, like, they could get, like, a big – they could pull a big baller move and pull somebody we didn't think they were going to pull.
00:48:46
Speaker
I mean, I was –
00:48:50
Speaker
Like Grubb or like Atkins at Florida State.
00:48:53
Speaker
I'm not a huge Atkins guy.
00:48:55
Speaker
I want somebody that's been a head coach.
00:48:57
Speaker
I'm just going to say that now.
00:48:58
Speaker
I do not want somebody that's a coordinator.
00:49:01
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:03
Speaker
Also, I'm not asking if I would ask John Lewis.
00:49:06
Speaker
I'm done.
00:49:06
Speaker
I'm done with him.
00:49:07
Speaker
Yeah, I'm done.
00:49:07
Speaker
Yeah, I'm good.
00:49:09
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:11
Speaker
I think back, like, so I was in school during the D'Antonio hire, and I remember, like, a lot of us were like, all right, we should get Brian Kelly.
00:49:20
Speaker
We should get blah, blah, blah.
00:49:23
Speaker
And then we hired D'Antonio, and I remember a lot of us were like, who?
00:49:27
Speaker
Oh, yeah, the guy from Cincinnati?
00:49:28
Speaker
All right, whatever.
00:49:31
Speaker
So who do you guys think would be the next D'Antonio, then, if we want to go that route?
00:49:35
Speaker
They don't really exist anymore.
00:49:38
Speaker
I don't know.
00:49:39
Speaker
I think the closest one would probably be Dickert if I had a name.
00:49:44
Speaker
Are you talking about personality-wise or coach-wise?
00:49:48
Speaker
Coach-wise.
00:49:49
Speaker
Someone whose record isn't that impressive, but they might have more.
00:49:54
Speaker
Jed Fish?
00:49:56
Speaker
I think Fish is a good choice, too.
00:50:00
Speaker
It's not Pat Narduzzi, Joe Rex, Joe.
00:50:02
Speaker
No.
00:50:03
Speaker
If I see a dude, I swear, I thank God I have not seen that dude's name in like a week and a half because every time I see it, I just like want to throw my phone.
00:50:11
Speaker
He's going to get fired from me.
00:50:13
Speaker
Like, he's going to get fired from me.
00:50:15
Speaker
Hey, he's three and four now or whatever the hell it is.
00:50:18
Speaker
No, they've lost last week.
00:50:19
Speaker
That's right.
00:50:20
Speaker
They blew that game.
00:50:21
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:50:22
Speaker
That's right.
00:50:22
Speaker
They're two and five.
00:50:23
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:24
Speaker
Never mind.
00:50:25
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:28
Speaker
Well, those were the power rankings.
00:50:29
Speaker
I guess I want to go into a new take on our next segment.
00:50:33
Speaker
You usually talk about media narratives and all that stuff, but I want to talk about something that might affect our coaching search, or might not.
00:50:40
Speaker
But Michigan's not going to have a coach next year.
00:50:44
Speaker
I'm declaring that.
00:50:45
Speaker
Harbaugh's not going to coach at Michigan next year.
00:50:48
Speaker
Will their coach search affect us?
00:50:51
Speaker
Maybe they want a guy like Elko, but I mean...
00:50:55
Speaker
I think Elko is the only guy that would overlap between us and them.
00:50:58
Speaker
But I will say that it kind of depends on how this game unfolds out.
00:51:03
Speaker
Which job, if they get hit with like a bullpen, which job is more attractive?
00:51:10
Speaker
This one.
00:51:13
Speaker
Okay.
00:51:14
Speaker
I think it's still there.
00:51:15
Speaker
Oh, you think so?
00:51:17
Speaker
Yeah, I think a one-year bullpen.
00:51:19
Speaker
What if it's two years?
00:51:20
Speaker
And a loss of scholarships.
00:51:21
Speaker
Like five years.
00:51:22
Speaker
Two years of scholarships, that might be us.
Impact of Michigan's Search on MSU
00:51:26
Speaker
Yeah, that might be us.
00:51:26
Speaker
I guess it really depends on how... Yeah, I mean... I guess it's going to be us then, but it's still a lot closer than I think I'm comfortable with.
00:51:37
Speaker
Because they're still going to get kids that are Detroit and things like that just because of who they are.
00:51:42
Speaker
Yeah, sure.
00:51:45
Speaker
But...
00:51:46
Speaker
I think what, like you said, it depends what the scandal shows.
00:51:52
Speaker
Because there's a real chance they just go internal and hire someone like Sean Moore.
00:51:55
Speaker
Yeah, you can't do that, dude, if he's implicated in this shit.
00:51:59
Speaker
Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:52:00
Speaker
If it comes out that their whole staff knew, then they got to go outside.
00:52:06
Speaker
And they might be shooting the shots at something like Elko.
00:52:09
Speaker
But I really don't think there's a whole bunch of overreacting awesome men.
00:52:12
Speaker
They should hire Jason Candle.
00:52:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:15
Speaker
That's who I think is.
00:52:16
Speaker
Les Miles is open, I hear.
00:52:20
Speaker
Harlan Barnett's a great human being.
00:52:21
Speaker
They should hire him.
00:52:23
Speaker
Imagine if they bring back, like, because if they're still stuck on the Michigan man thing, they go and hire Tom Brady.
00:52:29
Speaker
That would be such a disaster.
00:52:33
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:52:33
Speaker
I'd be a content machine.
00:52:38
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think it's going to affect us much at all.
00:52:41
Speaker
And I think, if anything, it makes them potentially getting fucked by the NCAA or the Big Ten, the potential of bands, bowl bands, postseason bands, and loss of scholarships.
00:52:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:57
Speaker
I think it makes our job a little bit more attractive in that you can say, Hey, like come and join us in year one.
00:53:04
Speaker
You can smash our rival and we'll build a statue out of you.
00:53:08
Speaker
I don't know.
00:53:09
Speaker
It's kind of weird.
00:53:10
Speaker
Cause like, I haven't really thought about our job in relation to the rest of the jobs just because there's been so much smoke around urban.
00:53:17
Speaker
You know, I, I've,
00:53:22
Speaker
Which jobs might open up now?
00:53:23
Speaker
A&M?
00:53:24
Speaker
Michigan?
00:53:25
Speaker
Michigan.
00:53:25
Speaker
Dude, half the Big Ten might.
00:53:27
Speaker
Iowa might.
00:53:27
Speaker
Indiana might.
00:53:28
Speaker
Some people – yeah, who gives a shit about Indiana?
00:53:31
Speaker
Iowa might.
00:53:32
Speaker
Northwestern's already open.
00:53:33
Speaker
Yeah, those two, I don't care about those two.
00:53:37
Speaker
They're not going to impact our coaching search at all.
00:53:39
Speaker
If we have a dude that picks Northwestern or Indiana over our job, just scrap the program at that point.
00:53:45
Speaker
It's over.
00:53:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:49
Speaker
But, yeah, I mean, there's not like – like, obviously stuff pops up last minute.
00:53:53
Speaker
Like, USC might open up because Blinken-Reilly might go to that and film.
00:53:56
Speaker
But there's not really, like, a job that you look at right now.
00:54:00
Speaker
It's like – you definitively look at it and it's like, yeah, that's a better job than an SU.
00:54:05
Speaker
The best job that's going to open this offseason is going to be an NFL.
00:54:10
Speaker
Michigan without sanctions is the best.
00:54:14
Speaker
Michigan without sanctions, and it pains me to admit this, Michigan without sanctions and without a bull ban is a better job than A&M.
00:54:20
Speaker
Oh, yeah, for sure.
00:54:20
Speaker
Yeah, like Michigan without any penalties whatsoever is going to be better than A&M.
00:54:25
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:26
Speaker
Michigan will get penalties.
00:54:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:29
Speaker
So then A&M becomes a better job.
00:54:31
Speaker
Fair enough.
00:54:32
Speaker
I kind of agree with that.
00:54:33
Speaker
I mean, I think also the booster scrutiny and the glad handing and the old boys, both schools have the same problem.
00:54:42
Speaker
Right.
00:54:42
Speaker
A&M and Michigan.
00:54:44
Speaker
They have that upper crust of boosters that want it a certain way, inject their whatever into the program.
00:54:54
Speaker
I think they suffer from the same problems.
00:54:56
Speaker
And I think like – but like you said, without penalties, Michigan's the better job.
00:55:03
Speaker
with penalties.
00:55:04
Speaker
Who knows?
00:55:05
Speaker
Who knows how much of their talent is going to transfer out if they know that they're not going to be playing for a playoff next year.
00:55:11
Speaker
Their coach that brought them in is not going to be there.
00:55:13
Speaker
None of their coaches maybe might be there.
00:55:16
Speaker
So... Us three are going to have one coach in common, us and Michigan.
00:55:22
Speaker
It's me and Mike Delco.
00:55:23
Speaker
Mike Delco is going to pick A&M.
00:55:26
Speaker
If A&M opens up, I kind of agree with you.
00:55:28
Speaker
I think you might wind up there.
00:55:31
Speaker
But A&M might go for somebody like Lane
00:55:35
Speaker
I think they'll go for a bigger name.
00:55:39
Speaker
Is there fresh water in College Station?
00:55:43
Speaker
There's swamp acid college station.
00:55:47
Speaker
Let's see.
00:55:48
Speaker
110 degrees down there.
00:55:50
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:55:51
Speaker
There is a lake.
00:55:52
Speaker
Oh, no, it's not a lake.
00:55:53
Speaker
It's a reservoir from a dam.
00:55:55
Speaker
So typical Texas.
00:55:57
Speaker
That makes sense.
00:55:57
Speaker
Yeah.
Cultural Dynamics at A&M and MSU
00:56:00
Speaker
Oh, wait, no, there's an alumni lake.
00:56:02
Speaker
There's an alumni lake in College Station.
00:56:04
Speaker
How big of a fucking cult are they?
00:56:06
Speaker
My gosh.
00:56:08
Speaker
Yeah, they got Leisure Lake, Country Club Lake.
00:56:12
Speaker
Ooh, that might appeal to – Mel Tucker.
00:56:16
Speaker
Oh, Mel Tucker, yeah.
00:56:17
Speaker
Yeah, Mel Tucker would love Country Club Lake.
00:56:20
Speaker
Wink, wink.
00:56:22
Speaker
After that report, I don't think he's ever going to get a job again.
00:56:25
Speaker
Head coaching or coaching, period.
00:56:28
Speaker
Coaching, because I think that stays on – that shit stays on your record for public employment jobs.
00:56:33
Speaker
Somebody will hire him.
00:56:34
Speaker
Oh, he'll go to Liberty.
00:56:37
Speaker
Yeah, there you go.
00:56:38
Speaker
There you go.
00:56:39
Speaker
If MSU hadn't called him – if MSU hadn't – their investigation didn't say that he sucks for the roster.
00:56:47
Speaker
I think he'd be hireable again, but I think you can't really bring a guy on staff.
00:56:52
Speaker
I think he's – I think he's going to get – I think he's going to have a –
00:56:57
Speaker
He's going to be coaching somewhere in the next couple of years.
00:56:59
Speaker
I think somebody will hire him.
00:57:01
Speaker
Picture this.
00:57:02
Speaker
Mel Tucker hired as a defensive analyst for Liberty University.
00:57:07
Speaker
He stands next to Jerry Falwell Jr. and points at him.
00:57:12
Speaker
What the hell is it with this fucking pointing thing?
00:57:15
Speaker
Why do you always do that?
00:57:17
Speaker
I never understood that.
00:57:20
Speaker
Never got that.
00:57:21
Speaker
It's the Mel Tucker difference.
00:57:24
Speaker
It's really fucked up.
00:57:25
Speaker
You can see the picture with him and Brendan Tracy.
00:57:26
Speaker
He's pointing directly in the pits.
00:57:28
Speaker
Oh my god.
00:57:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:31
Speaker
You can call that if you want.
00:57:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:34
Speaker
Well.
00:57:36
Speaker
Alright.
00:57:37
Speaker
Anyways.
00:57:37
Speaker
Fuck Michigan.
00:57:39
Speaker
Who cares?
00:57:40
Speaker
Our job is better.
00:57:43
Speaker
At least you know next year we will be postseason eligible.
00:57:48
Speaker
Yep.
00:57:48
Speaker
You don't know that about Michigan.
00:57:50
Speaker
Anyways, we're going to wrap up with our media takes.
00:57:54
Speaker
I think we got one on the docket.
00:57:56
Speaker
Zanjo, the floor is yours.
00:57:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:59
Speaker
So Andy Staples had a podcast today with the notorious Michigan cult leader, Chris Dallas.
00:58:05
Speaker
He who said that MSN was going to be a shout out.
00:58:08
Speaker
That's a thing he said.
00:58:10
Speaker
But after that interview, which was, I don't know why the hell I was fortunate to know that.
00:58:16
Speaker
Thanks, Ryan, asshole.
00:58:20
Speaker
But he took a mailbag question, which is basically asking who MSU should shoot for for its next job.
00:58:30
Speaker
And his takeaway was that Elko is probably not coming because he thinks Elko is either going to hold out for a bigger job or take Michigan or A&M should they open up this offseason.
00:58:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:45
Speaker
He also laughed off Urban Cummings, so he's on the list of people I got to make a new account and tweet at real quick.
00:58:53
Speaker
But the name he actually listed out for MSU's top target shoot, who he thinks MSU should target is Lance Leopold, who I know we just missed.
00:59:05
Speaker
For a short-term hire, I don't think it's a horrible idea.
00:59:08
Speaker
like just like a two-year thing, but I also think he shouldn't hire a coach for just two years unless it's someone like Urban Meyer and you know he's a guaranteed circle.
00:59:17
Speaker
Right.
00:59:18
Speaker
Like, I've seen people that have said, I brought up his age once and I've seen people say, well, he's the same age as Urban.
00:59:23
Speaker
Yeah, Urban's one of the best coaches in college football history.
00:59:27
Speaker
Sorry, guys, that's kind of not the same thing.
00:59:30
Speaker
So, like, I don't think Leopold's a bad coach, but he's not a guy I really would be like super psyched about if we hired him.
00:59:39
Speaker
I think Leopold's perfect for where he's at in that he's already kind of built Kansas enough.
00:59:45
Speaker
And he's in the Big 12.
00:59:46
Speaker
He's in the Big 12.
00:59:49
Speaker
I wouldn't say it's easier to make the playoff because they're not going to have as many teams as the Big 10 now with this new 12-team playoff.
00:59:57
Speaker
But it's more winnable for him there, I guess.
01:00:04
Speaker
I don't know.
01:00:05
Speaker
It would be easier to win the conference in the Big 12.
01:00:09
Speaker
at Kansas in the new Big 12 compared to MSU in the Big 10.
01:00:14
Speaker
That's my opinion.
01:00:15
Speaker
More importantly to me is the fact he's already got a three-year head start at Kansas and he'd be coming back and starting a ground leader again at MSU.
01:00:23
Speaker
He's 59 years old.
01:00:25
Speaker
He had maybe two or three years.
01:00:27
Speaker
His program built up at a top level before he becomes, before he turns like 65.
01:00:33
Speaker
Yeah, if he was like four or five years younger, I'd be in on him.
01:00:36
Speaker
Yeah, that's kind of what I'd say.
01:00:39
Speaker
And on the topic of the Big 12, Texas and Oklahoma are leaving.
01:00:43
Speaker
Right.
01:00:44
Speaker
So it's going to be easier.
01:00:46
Speaker
Right now, he's probably number three in the Big 12 standings right now.
01:00:51
Speaker
They lost to Texas, and I think they have another loss.
01:00:54
Speaker
I can't remember who, though.
01:00:56
Speaker
They lost Oklahoma State.
01:00:59
Speaker
Yes.
01:01:01
Speaker
It's not a great look with losing to Ogie State.
01:01:04
Speaker
The one thing I'll say... Okay, State is third in the conference.
01:01:08
Speaker
What?
01:01:09
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know.
01:01:09
Speaker
Yeah, they turned it around pretty.
01:01:12
Speaker
They lost some shitty non-conference team, didn't they?
01:01:14
Speaker
I think South Alabama, wasn't it?
01:01:17
Speaker
Yeah, they lost South.
01:01:18
Speaker
Oh, they lost to Iowa State.
01:01:20
Speaker
Oh, yikes.
01:01:22
Speaker
Yeah, they lost to Iowa State and South Alabama, and then they've rolled.
01:01:26
Speaker
Yeah, Iowa State turned it around a little bit, too.
01:01:29
Speaker
But...
01:01:33
Speaker
Still a hell no to Matt Campbell, by the way.
01:01:36
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:01:36
Speaker
No, absolutely.
01:01:38
Speaker
He's an NPC to me at this point.
01:01:39
Speaker
There's no chance.
Big 12 Landscape and Coaching Stability
01:01:41
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I will say the one thing about the Big 12 is they do have the 2017 National Champion still in the conference.
01:01:50
Speaker
So there's that.
01:01:53
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:01:53
Speaker
The other name that...
01:01:55
Speaker
The other name that Andy Gables brought up was Jonathan Smith, who I think we covered already.
01:02:00
Speaker
Yeah, that's somebody we'd be okay with.
01:02:02
Speaker
Yeah, I don't have a problem with that.
01:02:05
Speaker
Yeah, I think the general vibe, I think that's why our media...
01:02:11
Speaker
segment is kind of a little bit skim is because like it seems like the narrative the narratives have died down a little bit we're kind of like in that mode where things that are happening are happening behind the scenes uh everyone said their piece like two three weeks ago when the story was fresh and now the media is focused on um uh manifesto gay the shit show down the road yeah
01:02:36
Speaker
Yeah, so, yeah, I mean, we'll see how it goes.
01:02:39
Speaker
I don't know when our next episode is because the trickle of news is slow.
01:02:43
Speaker
But if one of us publishes – if somebody in MSC Twitter publishes a manifesto, you know where it's come from because that guy isn't on Twitter right now.
01:02:57
Speaker
Dude, that – dude, it is just – this is totally off topic.
01:03:01
Speaker
It's so funny to me that Harbaugh hired a former Michigan Twitter shit poster and he literally destroyed their program.
01:03:08
Speaker
That'd be like hiring me or Chief to be on MSU staff.
Conclusion and Humorous Reflections
01:03:13
Speaker
Or hiring Johnny Spartan.
01:03:19
Speaker
I don't even want to get into – because like the –
01:03:24
Speaker
the other dude on their staff that's getting investigated for computer crimes.
01:03:28
Speaker
I don't want to get into what it is, but at least it sounds serious.
01:03:32
Speaker
Yikes.
01:03:33
Speaker
So one thing I'll say about U of M, for a fan base that loves to tout acceptance rates, their football program is a ridiculously low one.
01:03:43
Speaker
Dude, they hired Shemi and they hired this dude.
01:03:48
Speaker
They had to have MSU Twitter.
01:03:51
Speaker
play HR on Shemi for them to realize, hey, we shouldn't have hired this guy.
01:03:57
Speaker
Like, seriously?
01:03:58
Speaker
I've heard that thing a few times.
01:04:00
Speaker
I don't think that's what they're trying to do.
01:04:02
Speaker
I think they're just trying to get it to go through, just try to cover it up like they're used to doing with Schembecklers.
01:04:08
Speaker
Yeah, it's really hard to do now with the whole internet thing.
01:04:12
Speaker
But, yeah, I mean –
01:04:16
Speaker
I can't imagine if Mel Tucker hired Zanjo, what would happen to the program.
01:04:22
Speaker
That's exactly what they did.
01:04:23
Speaker
And this guy was dumb about it.
01:04:26
Speaker
And because of him, we thank you for your service, Conor Stallion.
01:04:31
Speaker
Yes, you are a great service man.
01:04:35
Speaker
Literally.
01:04:35
Speaker
I love that his name just sounds like a fucking porn star.
01:04:41
Speaker
I love that this man who wrote a 600-page manifesto about a fucking football team whose only dream in life was to lead it is probably going to be –
01:04:54
Speaker
responsible for its near-term destruction and has given us something to talk about and distract ourselves with after getting blown out 49-0.
01:05:02
Speaker
Thank you, Connor Stallion.
01:05:06
Speaker
I literally don't give a shit about the football game on Saturday anymore.
01:05:10
Speaker
I do not care at all.
01:05:12
Speaker
I just love that our program was ruined by a jerk-off and their program was ruined by a semen.
01:05:20
Speaker
You have probably been thinking about that one for a while.
01:05:23
Speaker
So on that note, on that note, on that note, we're going to wrap it up here, everybody.
01:05:34
Speaker
I'm Ali.
01:05:37
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Spartan Ryan.
01:05:40
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Band.
01:05:41
Speaker
And Dan from Twitter.
01:05:44
Speaker
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