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Episode 5: Love is an Illusion Part 2

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Speaker: Hey, welcome back to the Flopcast. Hey there, welcome. i'm Moon, they them. i'm Chels, they she. Yeah,

Speaker: yeah we're back for part two. Hopefully, you know, part one was exciting enough to come back for part two. right I'm sorry. It's our two-parter, right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited. It had to be a two-parter because there's a lot to this story. And like I said, I think we're going to be having a lot more two-parters in the future.

Speaker: Oh, definitely. And hey, yeah you guys got your disclaimer already, so you can't say we're baiting you. Stick around. oh Well, before we dive in what do you remember from part one?

Speaker: a significant recap? Yes. um Yeah, I mean, I remember the most Delulu Omega on the planet somehow thought he was an alpha, um despite being incredibly tiny and the most Omega-coded Omega there's ever been. um and then, i don't know, some...

Speaker: Asshole Alpha got all obsessed with him He got pregnant when it was only a little bit in and then and then he later, i think, got nodded, but then was sick the next day and found out that that's not when he got pregnant. He was already pregnant. And then...

Speaker: And then, and then, and then he basically, he didn't want the baby, but the alpha said he would pay him to carry the baby and then have the baby.

Speaker: And if i and then was it, I don't even remember. Was it before that? At some point he tried to run away. Oh my gosh. Oh yeah. So then he had the baby and he ran away. He didn't even look at the baby. I'm like, what order did everything happen? Ran away without the baby, which I'm sorry, I'm sticking up for Omega's rights to choose. He said he didn't want the baby. um But then yeah, he ran away and we found out that the Alpha's best friend was hiding him. Correct me if I make any mistakes.

Speaker: No, you're perfectly on track. And then they're both like sick and feeling awful, but he's still trying to get away. But eventually the alpha catches up to him. And then that's when we found out they were like secretly bonded And they didn't know. And so they were literally dying being apart.

Speaker: And then they just decided to be a family, right? Pretty much. Yeah, basically. So I'd be a family. And then as we left it, I know they were meeting the Alpha's family.

Speaker: And they weren't being too cool. as i remember were the family being cool? Was it mixed? kind of and It was mixed. It was the dad that was being upset because of the son. Yeah. Yeah. but everyone else was like, oh my god, baby. Yeah, everyone else was excited. And then and then it ended with the Alpha of proposing to the Omega and we don't know what happened.

Speaker: Yes, that's exactly where we left off. Yes! oo Season 2 is quite long. um Reminders for listeners, I've read this but a long time ago, so I might have some annoying inserts. Also, I like this to the side stories better than the main story, so I might have a lot to say.

Speaker: i love the side stories more than main stories. It feels like I have never read this before, but it was literally probably one of my first ones, so Yeah, it like it was early for me too. don't even realize that a lot of how I view the Omegaverse is based on Loves and Illusion.

Speaker: Yes. So it's really good to revisit a classic series. And without further ado, let's dive right in. Let's jump right in. I'm all ears.

Speaker: So, okay. We left off with the proposal. Yeah. Which is such a great way to n a season, but also to you start a season.

Speaker: Our Omega says no. He doesn't just say no, he runs off. And the family's like watching through the window. Oh my god. he's He's a runner. yeah He is a runner. We should have known this. We should have fucking known this.

Speaker: ah Yeah, so... our alpha is like chasing him down because he's like what the fuck why are you saying no we're already bonded like why are you saying no to my proposal and i see is the baby there is the world's cutest baby there world's second cutest baby there but second cutest crazy say guinea i can't remember okay i think Doesn't matter. I was just curious. i've I've always got my mind on the baby.

Speaker: You know, yeah that's a good point I was like, where is the baby? Was he holding the baby? Because i remember, okay, so back in season one, when our Alpha found our Omega again, he was running with the baby, i like strapped his chest.

Speaker: I don't know. I was more distracted by the family watching it. Like, Chase is Omega. He's like, wow, you got knocked up and rejected. cool So they have like a moment, dadada but a cool thing is when they get back to the house, they're talk, you know, they're heated, not like in a sexual way, but like, oh, what the fuck? Emotions are going cri wild.

Speaker: The baby, Buell, is reacting to it. And they're like, what the fuck's going on? so they realize he's reacting to the parents pheromones meaning he's probably a dominant as well and mean what better way to find out that your child's a dominant other than you know when you're arguing about this proposal and like um So actually didn't really take notes too much right here because it was just like a lot of talking.

Speaker: But one insignificant thing is Dojin, he didn't like his family's response. Mainly his dad. Like him and his dad, they have like some weird beef.

Speaker: So he's like, you know what? If they're not going to accept you, they're not my family anymore.

Speaker: He blocks them. He blocks all of them. Which I'm like, oh, okay. But Hesong's like, uh, you don't have to do that. like They didn't treat me badly or anything. He's like, no.

Speaker: If they're not going to accept you with open arms, fuck them. So that kind of tells you how are how our alpha is. Which, not a surprise coming up to this point.

Speaker: Yeah. You know, not of his. That was kind of cool. It was. And he's, you know, he's said he claims that Heesung and Beul are the only family that he needs.

Speaker: And so he cut out his family. He's going to make his own like living and stuff. So I'm like, you know what? It takes a lot. But then again, he's like the third second or third son. So he's not even like the heir.

Speaker: I believe he's the, because I recently, I always have to remind myself because there's a mystery child, but he's the third son, the fourth child. Yes. Because the oldest brother does not matter.

Speaker: I remember I read the whole thing and I was like, where did the kid and the teenager come from? And it was like recent. I saw a meme that was like, ah there's an oldest brother. Those are his kids. I was, when I was reading it, was like, who the fuck?

Speaker: Because there's little kids around a lot. There's a little kid. and i was like There's a little kids are around. They wear the I love Buell shirt. Well, he...

Speaker: ah well he The next scene is going to be him having to do something for work. So he hires a babysitter naturally for his wifey and child.

Speaker: Well, he leaves. He sounds like, hey, you actually don't need to come. So he cancels the babysitter because guess what he does?

Speaker: He goes to the house with Beul. Hit Dojin's family's house.

Speaker: Guess what? No one expected this. Cause you know, ah Omega with poor background coming with a They're like, oh, his Omega's here. Like, what the fuck do we do?

Speaker: The grandfather actually has such a soft spot for both of them. He was the one that was an asshole, right? He was an asshole. And when his his family was trying to contact Dojin to like, hey, go visit dad because, you know, he's in the hospital and stuff. He's like, he's just being fucking dramatic. He's the one that rejected my Omega.

Speaker: oh But like he his dad was like having images in his head about like the Omega and the baby. Not like sexual images, but more of like endearing.

Speaker: So now that the grandfather sees them again, he has a soft spot. He's like playing with Bial and he tells him to come visit again.

Speaker: um all of them, not but not his own son. has a soft spot. ah Okay. And I'm like, oh, okay. So grandfather wants, he's talking to Beal to this a lot more, but not Dojin. And I'm like, you know, valid, very fucking valid.

Speaker: so he's a, he's a doting grandfather. That's what's revealed. Then he was playing with Beal when Dojin walks in and he's like, what the what the fuck am I looking at?

Speaker: Yeah. but And everyone's just like, dude, you're the problem here. Which... We've been saying this since day one. Literally.

Speaker: But then again, going down the family tree, he is spoiled. he's Is he the youngest? Yeah, he's the youngest. He's ah he's a baby, so of course. by a lot, too. Yeah.

Speaker: Because his like the age gap older brother is 12 years? Yeah. And he's the second youngest. Yeah. So he's... The sister, I want to say, is like 14 years older. And then the older brother's like... six I think they're all like ah close... Like, you know, within a few years of each other.

Speaker: Yeah, he's like... Surprise baby. Yeah, search for sure. Omega's going to menopause. He's like the menopause baby. Yes, that's a great way to put it. Because I was like... They they have like this weird relationship with him. But it's like cute and endearing. But also you could tell he's rap.

Speaker: yeah anywho the grandfather gives he's on a black card his black card and tells him to call him dad and then the mom chimes in beyond like call me mom as well they don't on the omega which is completely like mind you back just a few chapters ago they were like really indifferent to him but now they're like oh my god this is our child we never had gosh dojian's like what the actual fuck i'm your actual son and they're like no no here our son's right here this pretty little mega like this family has a soft spot for omegas and a soft spot for abil so they want him to finish school because you know he dropped down high school

Speaker: And he might be great at math, but he sucks at everything else. Can't relate. know, I'm like the opposite. I'm like, what's two plus two?

Speaker: you When they say fish, I'm like, how does it make a fucking fish?

Speaker: oh Well, he takes his black card. It's not even his black card to take. It's his dad's black card. But he takes it away from Hisung and says he at least needs to get 1.0 GPA.

Speaker: 1.0 like how fucking low don't you just have to show up do you even have to show up when i saw that was like am i am i reading this correctly like i know i'm dyslexic but that's a one so that's how bad he is with school yeah which is actually really fucking funny because once again he's a math genius But he's a dumbass everywhere else, which naturally makes sense. Because, I mean, going all the way back to, like, chapter, what, three or four, he almost got s scammed.

Speaker: Yeah, true. So, well, that's kind of, like,

Speaker: where they left off a little. Because now we're going to be jumping back and forth between more side stories. So, back.

Speaker: back to the money that he sue borrowed because he he borrowed money to ship our mega off and even though that didn didn't work out he returned the money

Speaker: it was from doujin's older brother and i'm like oh okay like So this is interconnected somehow.

Speaker: And it really starts to introduce the brother more because the brother is also like looking at the Omega, like, how did he fall in love with this recessive?

Speaker: But when he came alone, he's like, I can see why. Like he has like a lovey, goofy quality about him. And he can see how his stupid ass little brother fell in love.

Speaker: And I'm like, okay, that's a really cute scene. His name is Dojun, which I'm like, why the fuck are you guys' his names? Like one letter apart.

Speaker: I'm like, oh my God. Thankfully, oldest brother's barely in it. I don't remember his name, but I know it's like a letter off. Yeah. I'm just like, dude, I, why?

Speaker: you just like mix up the names a little? but I think it's that kind of a common tradition though in Korea to give siblings like at least the first syllable the same. I think so.

Speaker: But it's really hard in BL. Yeah. Because like when it's translated over, it's literally one letter. Like doujin, doujun. Yeah. Yeah. Like an I and a u And I'm like, oh my god. have to remember who's who.

Speaker: Well, he's also an alpha. And Hisu calls him master. So he's master, whereas doujin's little. like I was say little master. Sorry. Gave her a tag. Young master. Little master. Yeah.

Speaker: Well, he's too- This is going to start more of his story. he contacts Dojun. Dojun.

Speaker: To- Like, hey, you got the money right? Cool. Well- Maybe we should call him, like, the younger brother or something, cause the names are going to get confusing. The older brother? The older brother. Okay.

Speaker: Especially because he one's his best friend, so he's going to talking both of them. Yeah. Um- Let's see. if what should we call him? The older brother? ashcom Older brother, younger brother?

Speaker: Older brother, younger brother. Yeah. Whatever you can say that just describes him. And I might sometimes, if I'm slightly unclear, I'm going jump in just because if I'm confused, maybe I'm dumb, but maybe listeners will be confused. No, you're good. Not your fault. You didn't name these kids. It's literally one letter apart.

Speaker: I'm sorry for my bad pronunciation. I'm trying as well. So... If I say master, that's also the older brother. Okay. Because you have master and young master. That works. So, Hisu contacts... little master.

Speaker: Me? I'm kidding. Hisu contacts the older brother. He's like, hey, you got my money, right? Cool. I'm returning it. Well, he shows up to his office drunk with a late office gift, which... Okay, what like what's going on?

Speaker: um And so he's tempting our alpha here, like, hey, let's get into some trouble. As in, let's have some fucking sex. And as they're going at it, the older brother's like, huh, he's not getting wet.

Speaker: He is really a beta. No shit. Wow. Like, ah did thank God he didn't say that out loud. or Isn't he like 40 or something? He's only 12 years older.

Speaker: Okay, okay. He's like, goodness, 30 sun. Whatever, he still is yeah he's Yeah, he's old. Like, you can tell he's not young and spry. well compared to the others.

Speaker: Yeah. Which, we love older love interests. It's- And it's kind of sad. know better.

Speaker: It's kind of sad because that's they we're going and as they're going at it, Hisu knows the room is probably filled with alpha pheromones, but he can't sense it or even smell it.

Speaker: But the fact that they included that in was kind of like a reality check. like He's drunk and he he's also just realizing like the difference. I'm like, oh, poor baby. They still have sex. ah Our older brother didn't realize...

Speaker: Kisu's a virgin. They never do. Nope. He had sex with a virgin beta. I'm like, I hope you prepped him. Yeah, za that's gonna hurt.

Speaker: Oh. Yeah. dad Have you seen the brothers? They're they're packing. They are dominance for a reason. yeah

Speaker: so as they're wrapping up, you know, having... your after sex talk and whatnot he opens up about the situation that happened with the younger brother and the omega and he's like blaming himself like he at the end of the day did not wish actual harm on them and he's like sobbing now he's like why is no one blaming me it's all my fault i almost killed them And they are still like saying, no, it's not your fault. It's my our fault. dahdada And then the older brother even turns in. He's like, well, you didn't know they were bonded. Like we wouldn't have found out until like later on or something. So like it's not your fault.

Speaker: And he also tells our beta to respect himself and his body more because basically he was in a way, it's Kind of like a little punishment in a sense.

Speaker: And i'm like, oh, okay. This older brother, he has a soft spot. like him more than his younger brother. yeah a lot.

Speaker: And then, so he's like, you know, having this sweet moment. But then the older brother's like, I don't think you need worry about the marriage because they're not getting married. And he's like, what the fuck you mean they're not getting married?

Speaker: um he's pissed to find out that the Omega rejected the young brother from the whole family. Like, he went from this emo, like, sobbing beta to, gonna fucking kill him!

Speaker: and So, as, like, the older brother's, like, taking it back, he's like, turn this car around, you're dropping me off to their place. And he he does. He goes and and fucking fights our bottom. And I'm like, oh, he's back to his spicy self. He's like, how the, why the fuck did you reject his proposal? And I'm like, you know what?

Speaker: He is invalid for that. He is so fucking real to be like, dude, you got one fucking job is to say yes. Look, i'm I'm standing by it. I support Omega's rights and wrongs.

Speaker: I do too But I also support Arbeta Bestie. Yeah, yeah. um merbatdo I don't remember any of this, so I'm excited to see how this plays out. I remember the endgame.

Speaker: i don't remember all this. and See, that's why i was like, it felt like I was reading a brand new series again. I'm like, holy shit, it's been a while. But yeah so he he's literally like in their house yelling at her Omega like, why the fuck?

Speaker: Oh my gosh. um Beta bestie for a reason. We all need one. and then the next scene is still a hem fighting our Omega.

Speaker: About how dumb he is. He's like, the fuck are you good at math, but literally so dumb in everything else? So they're going back and forth arguing And, you know, the younger brother's watching. He's like, okay, like, how endearing. Like, my bestie and then my Omega, like, getting along.

Speaker: They suddenly go quiet as they're whispering. And, like, you have these two feisty ass bitches. Suddenly, like, they're whispering to each other. Like, is that not suspicious?

Speaker: Yeah, they're not. Well... Nisang is thinking he's about to go into heat again. So he's just like, you didn't tell him about that one time, right? And he's like, why the fuck would I tell him that he helped you? Like, I don't want to get on the live. Like, no, no, no. That stays between us. Oh my god. And then so, of course, with them going quiet, our alpha like walks over and he's like, hey guys. We were mine listeners, just in case, you know, it might have been a minute since they listened to the last episode. What was that one time?

Speaker: When Arbeta was hiding our Omega from the Alpha, Arbeta went into heat. And he's like, I should not be going to heat. It's only been two months since I've been pregnant.

Speaker: And he's he was begging Arbeta to help him. So yeah, Arbeta was like touching our Omega. he gave a friend a hand. Literally.

Speaker: They are bonded for life in another way. Trauma bonded. Oh my gosh. Yeah. All right, continue. I just needed to clarify. They found suppressants. They found suppressants that helped, thankfully. so with that being said, he's like, hey, what suppressants did you find me last time? And he's like, cool, I'll go get some. And our alpha's like, so what are you guys talking about?

Speaker: and they're like, well, shit, how how do we how do we skirt around this? And so they explain, hey, when he was staying at my house, he went to heat and I found him suppressants.

Speaker: And he's like, yeah, we're gonna go buy some sub suppressants. And Omega, the Alpha's like, staring at his Omega, why the fuck are you goingnna buy suppressants when you are bonded to an Alpha? And then Arvada goes like, he has a point.

Speaker: Like, that's actually better than medication. And Lightbulb, he's like, you guys haven't had a date, have you? gonna go babysit. Aww. So, he he takes Biel. Like, who wouldn't find an excuse to take Biel? He's like, please, can I babysit?

Speaker: Literally, he's like, okay, you guys go situate it. I'm i'm gonna be here with baby. So,

Speaker: have sexy time during his heat. And they go crazy. Heesung just... The scene cracks me up because, you know, they're going at it doing the flop flop.

Speaker: He kind of like goes in a trance again. that This is how he got pregnant. Mind you. Don't forget, he was in a trance, walked his ass over to the alpha's room and had sex with him.

Speaker: And so he gets like in this weird heat trance. He's in that trance again because he pulls out his phone and takes a picture of his alpha inserted in him. What?

Speaker: Yeah, I'm like, oh! Okay! And then he's like freaking out when he finds the photos like a few days later. He's like, oh my god, I fucking did that? Oh my gosh! And I'm like, wow!

Speaker: The little animal in you takes over! Okay. But hey, he he has a picture to us?

Speaker: Uh, Now it's going to jump back to the older brother. So let's go back to episode one for a moment. There is that spray that our Omega sprayed on himself to make himself smell like an alpha that was produced by this family.

Speaker: So the older brother is actually researching a beta pheromone perfume.

Speaker: Which is really interesting because he has he did the Alpha one and the Omega one. He's like, Betas are obsessed with Alphas and Megas. And he's quite knowledgeable on Betas.

Speaker: I mean, he he did just fuck one. So like it makes sense. yeah He knows them inside and out. And we're always the one. and it like it kind of shows a flashback of how he met our...

Speaker: Beta, because our Beta Hisu has been like... Conjoined to the little brother's hit. But he's like his little puppet. Like, they grew up together.

Speaker: and even our older brother was like, yeah, you know, I saw him as a a kid, Batman's kid. And the next thing I know, he's an adult. Graduated. Fuckable. Which... Not quite yet.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: yeah don't forget he was married and i'll get dive into that in a moment here i remember that remember nothing i remember this that one of my favorite plots oh my gosh we'll get there we'll get there that's what i'm here for let's keep going keep going let's go so they where was i

Speaker: They start seeing each other, like, casually, like, kind of like fuck buddies a little bit more. they it feels more like a relationship, but, like, there's not an official title to it. The older brother actually is confused because he loses control when he's around this beta, and he just wants to be inside him at all times.

Speaker: He's a cutie. He's absolutely adorable. I'm like, holy shit. So it's interesting because he's like, I shouldn't be feeling this way about a beta, but looking at him, I just want to hold him.

Speaker: And then since we're in that lovey-dovey mindset, scenes jump. We're back to our main couple.

Speaker: Hesang actually sees Dojin's parents being lovey-dovey and inspired him to get married. He's like, I want to be like that. i want to be all cute. And I'm like, oh, whoa, where did this come from?

Speaker: And so you remember, he's one that rejected the proposal. was up to our- Megas rights to change their minds. Literally. And that's what happened. He did change his mind. He's like, I want that.

Speaker: I'm like, you know what? Yeah, he's going on with full force. He goes up to our alpha here. He's like, I'm going to grant you the privilege. I will marry you. And I'm like, yes!

Speaker: Know your worth. yes um mind you once again his parents love them they bought him a new house oh for crying out loud and they're not even married ah wow so i'm like oh okay um and as they say like oh yeah we're getting married daddada he asks the alpha's parents can i still call you mom and dad

Speaker: The mom says he'll always be their baby son. Oh my goodness. Which is so fucking cute. But then our alpha over here is like, please don't fucking say that. That sounds like we're brothers. And I'm like, you know what? For once he has a point. Yeah, that's it's fine.

Speaker: oh And then cute scene is them trying on wedding outfits. And our Omega's like, I'm not gonna wear white. He looks fucking great in white. So he ends up in white, but...

Speaker: They also had him turn on a dress, like a wedding dress. Our alpha whipped. Everyone i looked over, he's just like whipped to get his man in a dress. And of course, our poor little mega gets like flustered. He's like, die you know, going on his little feisty. Chihuahua syndrome. Yes, that's exactly that. He's little chihuahua.

Speaker: Well, I'll put a dress on too. He's like, okay. yeah And I'm like, respect. Fucking respect. That's like one of the great things about Omegaverse though is like those gender roles not ever being as solid.

Speaker: Exactly. They're like, I'll wear fucking dress. Like, yeah. Whatever. like, yeah. Or being like called a bride or wife and stuff. It's not like a bad term.

Speaker: yeah what's many Like I said, I but based a lot of my original Omegaverse knowledge on this. And so I thought a lot more of them would call them ah males, mom and wife and stuff. But I don't know if I've read any others that do.

Speaker: um Maybe me jokingly, but like. I've read a handful, but it's more of, I think, like, I don't know. It's like, oh, i want to make you my wife.

Speaker: Yeah. But that's a good point. Yeah. We'll keep an eye on it. Yeah, as we're going through, need to start a tally. Gabby, we're going to have a tally going. How do they make it?

Speaker: even though our Omega was like, I'm not going to wear white, he ends wearing white. Of course. And he looks great. They look amazing. Are they both in white? or No, only the Omega. Okay, cute.

Speaker: Which he stole the show. Actually, his baby did, but that's okay. He's like the second best there. And going back to to the other brother now, because, you know, the wedding and everything, hit the brother's like thinking about his his baby brother getting married. and

Speaker: And he's wanting more. he He's basically in a relationship with Arbeta. He's happy. He's comfortable. He's in a... spot in life that he never thought he'd be in and especially seeing his brother's wedding he wants to spend more time with Yisu they practically live together at this point like he finds this beta so irresistible and adorable so he makes the executive decision to move out the family house and that freaks the whole family out because they're like did you get a girlfriend?

Speaker: why are you moving out? hold up, what's going on here? And he's like trying to be sly about it. Like, I don't know. I just, it's closer to work and stuff. I'm like, dude, just fucking, just fucking say you have a man.

Speaker: This is where we do find out about their 12 year age gap. Cause he's like kind of trying to find a balance between them. Like, would he like this place? dot at da So there's that.

Speaker: But drum roll. so the ex is back and like, so our older brother's like trying to figure out his life. He's like, yeah, going move out.

Speaker: This beta I'm seeing. ah he's so fucking adorable. I want to be with him at all times. No, his fucking demon came back.

Speaker: Oh my gosh, you have no idea how gorgeous this Omega is. And he's a dominant. I have an idea. now Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Speaker: If you guys have not seen this Omega, Google him because one of my favorite Omegas. And I'm not typically one to like like a traditional Omega either.

Speaker: I just I do love how they have other Omegas and like all their Omegas are like cute and stuff. I think they did a great job of making it obvious. This is the dominant one. This is like your top of the you know, they talk about the low class, high class and like, yeah, I love it visually. They got this is a high class Omega. He just has like blue hair and purer piercing blue eyes and just an aura. And like I was saying before, I know that most people hate this bitch and that's totally fine and totally acceptable. I'm sorry. He is serving so much cunt. I'm i obsessed.

Speaker: Oh, yeah. And I love how, like, I know people say he's feminine. see more androgynous. Yeah, I kind of agree. I haven't thought of that, but I agree. Yeah, because as I'm rereading it, I'm like, I can see where they are saying feminine, but no, he is very androgynous. Yeah, yeah. Whereas as you're going introduce him, they're like, they're questioning his gender, too. I'm like, see?

Speaker: That... Gives me gender envy right there. i love it. Well, let's just say he doesn't give the greatest first impressions.

Speaker: He's like, is pissed. He's like, did you see how this fucking bitch looked at me and Beal? He looked like we were in the fucking trash. And then He's all like, well, yeah, he's like a high class dominant alpha. He's not going to treat you the same. And He's over here like, this is a fucking drama. Like, this is this real life. He should have been acting like this is a drama. like He is like, his world's are crashing down because everyone's treated him pretty well up until at this point.

Speaker: And he's like, I'd rather have you than him. And I'm like, ooh. That's a big statement, my boy. telling the beta. the I like you. Get this bitch out of here.

Speaker: So he actually tells our beta, you better not lose to him. Oh, ah wow. Whoa. We're batting for the same team here, I see. You support your beta bestie.

Speaker: Yes. Your new beta bestie. And You can tell our beta is, like, not fully there. Because, like, instead of, you know, kind of bickering back with our Omega, he's just like, yeah, okay. Like, can keep me his... I'm like, oh, no.

Speaker: Oh, no. Because he's been with this family since they were kids. He knows who the ex is. Yeah, I didn't think about that. And he's already feeling bad because he's quote unquote just a beta.

Speaker: And then now the world's fanciest ass dominant Omegas here. um The most stunning creatures in front of you where he can't even deny that he like because he calls our main character ugly all the fucking time.

Speaker: But with this Omega he's like he's stunning. I'm like, well, shit. You know he's already, like, all up in his head. Well,

Speaker: he goes home. And so we get it to meet this stunning Omega a little bit more. His name is, correct to me I'm wrong, is it Chowan?

Speaker: I believe so. Chowan. Well, The mom asks Chowon if he's ever thought about getting back together with her son. Yeah.

Speaker: And Chowon's like, in his robe that they kept and everything. anything They're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe he kept this all this time. and he's like, ooh, feeling himself up. He's like, yes, like the parents still love me.

Speaker: um

Speaker: and he approaches our top... Our older brother. our older brother is like, need to go see my man.

Speaker: Like, maybe I'll go over to his house. Like, he's in his own world right now. He's not giving Trawan the time of day. He's over here like, ah, it's been too long without my my my man.

Speaker: While his man's over there like, oh my god. the ex is back so like two different reactions so chowon asks the older brother are you seeing someone and the older brother is like that's none of your fucking business actually i'm yeah you know what you guys are divorced like that isn't any of your business and you kind of learn that chowon

Speaker: has jealousy issues. Like, he's not mentally okay. And allegedly, somewhere he broke someone's leg. There's that rumor. So, like, our male lead tells our main character, stay away from him.

Speaker: And I don't think he's ever done that about anyone. Wait, so there was already a rumor that he broke someone's leg? Yeah, Chowon. There's a rumor about Chowon while he was married to our older brother.

Speaker: That he got so jealous that someone's leg got broken because of him. Okay. And they had to replace all of the older brothers, like, secretaries and assistants and stuff with, like, alphas and betas because he was like, whose smell is that?

Speaker: Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah, he was he was possessive. And that's just a trait with being a dominant is, like, the possessiveness. Yeah. But, like, he was really possessive. And you'll learn... We'll learn more as we go on. But...

Speaker: there It was interesting because in the all of the middle of this, there's just a few panels of our main couple talking about this. so that's when our male lead was like, stay away from this fucker. I'm like, oh.

Speaker: He's never actually told Omega to stay away from people. Yeah. So, huh. Interesting. Bad news. it ops Bad news, Omega. I don't leave him. Yeah.

Speaker: So Chowon actually sticks around a little longer and he's basically stalking his ex because he's like, I didn't think that, you know, he'd fall head over heels with me just day one. I'm to stick around a little longer, you know, to break the ice a little, like to tempt him because who who doesn't want me?

Speaker: And so he's literally stalking him at this point. He follows him. And he sees older brother. He's like, where the fuck is he? Like, why is he in this neighborhood?

Speaker: And he sees him with the beta. And he's like, he's never made that face to me. He's like, who the fuck that fucker too? Who is he seeing? um And so then it cuts into our couple, the beta and older brother.

Speaker: The older brother's explaining, hey, I'm sorry, really wanted to see you, but with Troon here, I had to be careful. Hissu's just like, let's end it. And the older brother's like, no, no. What do you what do you mean, end it? like no, if anything, we could take a break, but I don't want end it. He's like, no, let's cut it clean. like Let's end it here.

Speaker: And so the older brother actually respects his wishes, even though it fucking hurts. But he's like, you know, this will give me the time to finally finalize things with Chowan.

Speaker: And you know what? At least he's like respecting his man's wishes and taking care of his ex, because he damn fucking take care of his ex, and that's why we're kind of here. Yeah.

Speaker: Well, as he's in the car, he actually is on the phone because, you know, boss ass bitch. He's like hiring bodyguards for his man.

Speaker: They might be broken up, but he knows his ex. He's going to protect his man. I'm like, you know what? Okay. He earned some respect there.

Speaker: And so he's secretly protecting sue Well, Chowod hires some fucking shady men.

Speaker: He's jealous. He's like, what do you have that I don't? I'm the domino mega here. So, Kisu is like wrapping up with the boys, his band, and he's like walking home. He gets grabbed by those shady men.

Speaker: And then... Remember how he had bodyguards? Well, they were like, oh shit, we lost him. Oh god, course. older brother goes like, what the fuck you mean you lost him? He's like, you know, about to like, leave on his overseas trip.

Speaker: Yeah, Chowon is confronting our beta. Our beta's like, all tied up. And he's, Chowon's just going at it. He's not happy. And whole time, our beta's, he is up.

Speaker: He's a baddie. He's like, oh, these these these ropes, they're loose. So he's already pawning his escape route. Well, he was... we forget now he kind of like He's kind of the victim and the innocent one. We forget that he was a little schemer. He was kidnapping Omegas. He has backstory.

Speaker: he he has a backstory he yeah I'm like... Yeah, you really aren't. You are doing the dirty work for the young master.

Speaker: Just because now all of a sudden. Regular master. Now he's the sweet little beta. We we know what you're up to. we know We know who you are. We're like, we know that side swoop. we got some hit You got something hidden underneath that.

Speaker: Well, he does. he breaks free. He goes fucking crazy. Like he's grabbing Omega's hair. J1's hair. And he's saying shit like, you might be beautiful, but you have the other fucking heart. No wonder why you got divorced. Yeah, man. Oh, shit. Like...

Speaker: Oh my god, and the shady guys, they're like, what the fuck do we do? They're useless. yeah I mean, they did tell Chowon, like, hey, well we're no longer in like the sketch business. So they're, like, not helping this Omega as his hair's getting, are like, ripped out. Oh my gosh. And Chowon's, like, sobbing.

Speaker: He's on my back. He's sobbing. He's, like... I'm the one that wanted the divorce and I regret it so much. Oh, wow. And I'm like, oh, so you have this sobbing, beautiful Omega and our beautiful beta just like going at his hair.

Speaker: the older brother shows up and it's like what the fuck Chawan actually asks him hey did you ever like me and he straight up says no oh shit and I'm like oh if I don't nail that coffin but at least he didn't hesitate because he's like he needed to be straight up yeah um he also had the police with him so he got all escorted out um It is revealed that he skipped his overseas trip for our beta. And then he actually admits to our beta, I'm not a good man.

Speaker: i was a bad husband. I was attentive. I neglected the mega. However, i didn't have feelings for him. and but I have feelings for you. I like you. I'm like, ah is that the first I like you?

Speaker: I can't remember if the main couple had I like you yet. No, I think they did. The alphas and like the omega. Okay, yeah. I feel like they had so much going on since they had a baby and stuff. it's like And they were bonded. Did that even come up? Yeah, I don't remember. but But like right now, our omegas are saying I like you. Like, okay, normal.

Speaker: You know, a lot of times it's like the omegas are like, I like you. Nope. or Our alphas. This family, they know what they want. And...

Speaker: Hisu actually confesses too. He's like sobbing because, you know, he didn't want to break up with him. He was even telling Chowon, like, I broke up with him. Go ask him. i'm Like, why the fuck are you bugging me? But he's, you know, he confesses. He's like, I do like you too.

Speaker: And then he asks, he as in our older brother, the alpha asks for another chance. So they're together again. ah Guess what?

Speaker: What?

Speaker: Chowon fed Hisu some aphrodisiac. Excuse? So like, Hisu's like kind of heating up and stuff. So our older brother's like, um, you're getting a little hot. He's like, uh, it's probably for the aphrodisiac.

Speaker: Why did he give him an aphrodisiac? Because like he was trying to like with the pheromones and stuff, but our beta's like, I'm a fucking beta. This shit doesn't impact me.

Speaker: Interesting. So with that being said, he's like, so this is a house that you guys used to live in together, right? And then the older brother's like, yeah, I gave it to him and told him to sell it, i guess he never did sell it.

Speaker: And so here it goes, feel a little naughty. Oh my God. This house that is why I love you. this is why i love you um ah You know what? Yeah, that's a great way to get back at him.

Speaker: And he is actually so happy that he was able to rip out Omega's hair. know my Fuck you, bitch. That's like his proud fucking moment. we Yeah, he's like, all you have is that you're beautiful, so i'm going to rip out some of your hair. and Exactly. i like Yeah, you do that.

Speaker: And of course, like, the incident tries to get covered up and stuff. So they settle the score. And Chowon gets sent to psychotherapy. Which, I mean, you know what? At least he's getting help. Because he he needs help.

Speaker: But... You know what That's kind of nice that they didn't fully... I mean, they villainized him. But, like, he needs mental health. Help. let's in That's the thing. Like, you could tell, like, he needed mental help. Like, basically, when he...

Speaker: first came on because you're like there's something wrong with this bitch right i mean they all know he like but he's probably inbred they tried to keep it a little too pure in the family it kind of feels like i see it oh well that's a pause on this those side couples because we actually go back to our main couple this is i want to talk about this i'm just kidding I like this story, so yes. Okay, then yay.

Speaker: I'm here for it. um is Is there Buell?

Speaker: Kind of. It has to do with like a little bit of Buell. Okay, okay. It's an incident with

Speaker: R-Alpha. So, he's... Like, their band getting really fucking popular. And he... meet like one of the actors for the music videos one of his exes his alphax and briefly talked to him and we're like okay cool whatever But you know what people are going to do? They're going to fucking talk. So this bitch ass made up rumors. So apparently there's this affair going on and stuff.

Speaker: Oh. don't remember this at all. And our two dumbasses, like, they're like, why hasn't Soso contacted me? Does he not care about me? And the other one's like, why the fuck haven't you checked up on me? Do you not care about So they're not contacting each other.

Speaker: Oh my gosh. And they're over here like, fine, I can live without you. And then our Omega's like, how am I going to live without him? It's okay, I got Buell, that's all I fucking need. So he's like, ready. and But then he's like, sobbing, like in front of Buell's crib. And Arbeta like, drags Alpha in and is like, go fucking talking to Alpha's like, why the fuck are you crying? He's like, because you're going to leave me for your Alpha partner.

Speaker: Um, Yeah, it's just like a cute little dumbass story and they have great makeup sex. And then he's like, why were you too embarrassed to reach out to me? Because before this incident happened, our alpha caught the mega plane with a toy.

Speaker: Yeah, and then our alpha got jealous of the twins, so they had great sex. course, of course. And so that's why Hesan was so fucking embarrassed to even talk to our alpha. And he's like, I thought you were upset because I wasn't calling you honey. So they had some really steamy makeup sex.

Speaker: But guess what happens? um He gets nodded and they get stuck, so they have to call our pay to come get people. Oh my gosh.

Speaker: yeah And they're like, how long are you going to be dotted? He's like, I think until morning. oh my gosh. So, Heesu comes and saves the day by taking Bjol. Heesu's in bed with his man.

Speaker: Oh my god. And then our two dumbasses are stuck together. But you know what Isa does? What's he do? He saves the day again by being like, I could use this. Because not only is he in the band, he's also the manager. So he clears up all the affair rumors by putting out a statement of how he had to go save the day by our two lovebirds getting it on. And he's like, use your imagination.

Speaker: Oh my God. you got darey lot out there He's still a little schemer. he is. And I'm like, you know what? you he survive They fucking deserve that. Cause they woke him up.

Speaker: Oh my gosh. Um, but also, so we, all we find out that our poor Omega cannot get pregnant anymore. But, you know, at first you think he's sad because, like, you know, you can't tell his emotions.

Speaker: He's like, so this means we don't have to deal with a condom anymore. While our elf is holding Buell, he's just like, how did this conversation turn dirty? and our our little bottom's like, ooh, we can do it raw?

Speaker: Yeah. i like Oh my gosh. We love looking on the bright side. Right? Like, you know what? You might be a dumbass, but at least you're adorable about it.

Speaker: So this is going to go back to our other couple. Because, you know, the rumors are cleared up. He's talking with the older brother. They're with Buell and Buell is calling the older brother Dada, like daddy.

Speaker: really Uncle, but you know, like they look alike. so yeah yeah and So the older brother starts imagining and wanting a child of his own with the beta.

Speaker: So he goes into a rut. Oh, yeah you baby. Right. Yep. And it's like it's a slower progression because they show him in his office and his work is like, are you OK? And so he was like, yeah, and you go home. And so get keep he sees his beta. He's like, oh, no, this is dangerous.

Speaker: ah Yeah. So he goes in a rut. They have a good fucking sex. He nods her beta. This this scene traumatized me. I remember almost nothing. I think about this scene all the time.

Speaker: Yeah, because our Beta blood. But our Beta is such a sweetheart because he's like, you're back to your normal self now. And then are the older brother's like traumatized himself. He's like, what the fuck did I do? Like, oh my god. So he literally takes a whole week off to nurse him back. And our bitch ass Beta is like, you're too gentle.

Speaker: You gotta stop this. Oh my god. So he traps him. he like the He's driving our... alpha and in his brand new car and stuff they haven't had sex in like a week because you know he's being nurse to health and he's like so what's going on well he finds out that you know the poor baby and all oh and he's like oh baby will between us we cute uh yeah our beta pulls over and has sex with him in the car oh okay

Speaker: He knew what he wanted. And I'm like, you know what? Yeah. Because he's like, yeah, you might have fucking nodded me. yeah you might have been caring for me, but let you haven't stuck it in me. And I'm like, he's right. you're You've been neglecting him.

Speaker: been neglecting that hole. this Ooh, that hole that you prepared so well. ah And then, so now...

Speaker: This is actually where they lead into the other side couple. o and So our older brother had his nice, sexy car sex. So now it pans over to his ex.

Speaker: Toron's actually going through therapy. Surprisingly. And I'm like, you know what? Yes, we love that. And so he's like doing like his like music stuff, da da da. And he goes to a bar. And guess who's at that bar?

Speaker: Who is at this bar? Kyungsoo. That is our main character's friend that he was staying with for a little bit.

Speaker: So this is going full fucking circle. Beta bestie number two. um He insults how he looks. oh So Kyungsoo's like, oh my god, this Omega is studying. And then Cho-Wong's like, you guys are all betas, right? And he's like, yeah. He's like, you guys could have hired at least better looking ones.

Speaker: I'm like, oh my god. Like, damn! Okay. Shots fired. right But Kyungsoo is such a lovable dummy. k Like, we knew this. Because of how he took care of our main character.

Speaker: Well, he's taking care of this bitch-ass Omega because he gets drunk and he's like, okay, let me take him to a room. Because this is what made-a-besties do. Exactly. He's like, what I can't just leave him a here. So he takes him to a room. But he's like, staring at him. He's like, he is so pretty.

Speaker: Let me get closer. He just wants to like Get a closer look. Okay. Fair. I would too. And I'm like, okay, cool, cool. He wasn't going kiss him or anything. He's just like, wow, he's so pretty. He's admiring this guy. ah While Omega wakes up, he's like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, are you going to advantage of me? And our team's like, no! I'm going to get fired if so! Like, no, don't tell my boss! Like, I promise I'm not doing anything! You're just so pretty! I wanted a closer look! And I'm like, so? He's literally begging dominant Alpha, not Alpha, dominant Omega to not say anything, because he's like, you're just so pretty! Okay, I just brought you a room! I'll leave! Da-da-da! Yeah, our dominant Alpha's like...

Speaker: you know what, I'm gonna have fun with this. So they have sex. and And then of course our fucking beta fails and he's like, what the fuck?

Speaker: So there's a lot of cute moments together. There's Cho-won dropping Chung-woo off to school because Chung-woo's like no no no like you don't have to but your car though okay you could drop me off so there's like just cute little silly moments like that and so there's shopping it's like little dates but like not actually dates but dates Chung-woo kind of I'm saying Chung-woo is Chung-seo sorry Chung-seo Chung-seo?

Speaker: Wasn't it Kyung-seo? Kyung-seo Kyungsoo, Jungwoo, Jungwon. Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. I'm confusing myself. Yeah. So, ki Beta Bestie is Kyungsoo?

Speaker: Kyungsoo, yes. I kept saying woo. Yeah. And then Chowon is... Is the omega. So, if he likes him.

Speaker: You never fucking ask that. So Chowon blushes and like walks away. Oh. And then Kyungsoo's like,

Speaker: ah my bed and so they like they were shopping together so the shop attendants looking at him and he's like i don't know uh so pans over to chawan freaking the fuck out because he's like who the fuck does this guy think he is he's only supposed to be a fling like what the actual fuck like him as if Kang-soo's like, oh, he didn't take ah he didn't take back his ticket, so i might go to his performance. Like, get some flowers, dress up nicely, da-da-da. He's never been to, like, this fancy, I think he said orchestra?

Speaker: It was his violin performance. yeah And he's, like, so enamored by him. And then, so they talk for a moment, and so he takes Chowon to a concert.

Speaker: Guess what? Can I guess? Yes. Is the concert the Younger Brothers band? Actually, no. No!

Speaker: Oh my gosh. no They actually really didn't go much into the concert itself, but i read this is a scenario. yeah This is what happened with Heesung.

Speaker: Kyungso took Heesung the Younger Brothers like concert and stuff, and that's how their love story like really started. I thought it was like triple... Like full circle, right? I thought so too. or full circlele Where'd they go? Chungwo...

Speaker: great pushes him against the wall and kisses him. so they're like... Yeah, Cho Won pushes Kyung Soo against the wall. You're like combining their names.

Speaker: Oh, am I? i'm so sorry. are you So the Omega pushed the Beta against the wall? Yes. okay

Speaker: and At the concert. So, like, literally you don't know anything about this concert. Okay. Because... I got excited, my bad. no I got excited too. I'm like, oh, damn, that would have good full circle.

Speaker: um So they have sex. Not at the concert. They, obviously, they go back. wasn't sure. I had to make it clear.

Speaker: um So that another scene that happens as this progresses, you know, now they made up, right? Kyungsoo... and Hae-sung are hanging out. And Hae-sung is actually going on about Cho-won. Okay.

Speaker: Being all like, this motherfucker, this is what happened. Da-da-da. And then Kyung-soo's like, is this Cho-won I think it is? So he actually confronts him.

Speaker: And then Cho-won, of course, sounds a little crazy. And so you know what Kyung-soo said? what

Speaker: You scare me. And he just walks away. Wow. Okay. And

Speaker: I'm just like, oh my god Someone had to say it. Yeah, someone had to fucking say it. I'm like, damn. Okay. Well, it goes into like this whole scene of Chowon.

Speaker: Like, he's losing it. He's not doing okay. So he ah over he basically ah overdoses. Someone finds him.

Speaker: Oh my gosh. On what? Sorry. Like some medication. Okay. I always ask to make questions. Sorry. No, you're good. i would i It literally said like medication. Okay. That sticks out. so But they show you a pill bottle with like loose pills and stuff. And then he's like in the hospital and all. And guess what he ends up doing? Hmm.

Speaker: What does he do? Because, you know, he had this whole mental breakdown. he goes and apologizes to everyone individually. Everyone? Yeah, so he apologizes to Hee-soo.

Speaker: And then he has, he confronted Kyung-soo. and And so they have a talk and they basically reconcile. And he even fucking apologizes to Hee-sung.

Speaker: He didn't? He did. oh he did. Okay. apologize He apologized to Heesung. Okay. And I'm like, what the actual fuck? We love a therapist king. our Our second beta bestie really tried.

Speaker: Right? ah He's like, oh shit, I gotta get my shit together. yeah and ah surprise, surprise, Hesung like, what the fuck to his friend? Like, you're dating Chowann?

Speaker: And then that's when Chowen apologizes, but he's like, this is a bitch I was telling you about and you're together with him. Yeah. So I'm like, wow, this is a small fucking world. Especially when I feel like all of the other connections have all like made sense. This was the only one that was like, this is just random.

Speaker: That this is your your ex-husband's little brother's wife's bestie. Exactly!

Speaker: That you found at a bar and you called ugly. Yeah. So apparently the i second beta... I don't know if we've passed it, so sorry if spoilers. Wasn't there a point where he like said, wow, you're hung for a beta? Yeah.

Speaker: yeah it's like I like that had to be early on oh But yeah, and it's just it's funny because I'm just saying... uh Kyungsoo and Hee-seung they both are called ugly by the others oh wow good point

Speaker: Yeah, I'm like, wow, are they just the ugly besties or something? They're not ugly, though. That's thing. Yeah. They're so fucking cute. I was, especially with, ah you know, our main Omega, I was always confused because, like, one person thinks he's the most beautiful thing on the planet. Obviously, there was, like, a stranger that wanted to fuck him. Other people think that. But then other people, like, he's ugly. And I feel like there was a point that someone said he's the most average thing you've ever seen. I'm like, what is he? Yeah.

Speaker: I guess that's, like, real life. Everything's beauty is beauty's in the eye of the beholder. but Yeah, it's all subjective because everyone's like, he's just this regular ass. recessive derogatory recessive oh my god derogatory recessive and the funny thing is but they're like Bula's like the cutest fucking baby and he looks like his mama and they're like what what is it then because spoilers for like the new series Bula's a fucking like he's an adorable teenager he's beautiful like he's but he does take after his mama

Speaker: Yeah, but as a teenager, he looks more mixed. We won't get too much into that now because that's a conversation for another day. But um but it but you know like it makes easily, Beul unarguably like one of the most beautiful.

Speaker: oh Oh, yeah. they They created somehow one of the cutest babies. Yeah. But yeah, because with Beul, they'll be like, oh my god, he looks like his mama. He's so cute. dah-dadah So I don't really know where he stands in this universe.

Speaker: Yeah. Because it's a mix, like you said. It's like Beauty is in the eye the beholder. um then Chowan is like the... There's no arguing it. like He's you know classically beautiful. Stunning. He's the one everyone's going to be like, yeah, he's beautiful.

Speaker: And then we have our OG beta bestie, Hisu. Which... i I thought he was beautiful for like when I first saw him, but a lot of people just they don't really perceive him.

Speaker: Yeah. So then that gives you like the beta syndrome. Yeah. yeah So it's it's just interesting because it does play a role in the series.

Speaker: But at the same time, they all find someone that they just are very compatible with. And Chowon found a golden retriever. Yeah.

Speaker: And that's what he needed. Yeah, like yeah he's just he's just kind of a basic guy and some people need that. He's just a normal, he's a nice guy. like he said, he's hung for a beta. Someone who's been with a dominant alpha, you know who's probably only ever been with dominant alphas. and's like yeah you know there's some Maybe that's what he needed. you know was And he needed him to say, you scare me. To have that whole, you're flashing before your eyes.

Speaker: And I'm like, damn, how does it feel to, like, have a ah fucking beta cause that? Right? Because you were married to and alpha from, like, a really prestigious family.

Speaker: And that didn't even traumatize you. Yeah. i say trans and chill I'm just assuming, were they, like, an arranged marriage? They were an arranged marriage. They were an arranged marriage. And Chowon...

Speaker: Did really like him, but it was... It's hard because like it's an arranged marriage, but know that obsession? They did mention with him being very dominant Omega, he's a very possessive being. And the more dominant you are, the more possessive you are.

Speaker: so that's where his mental instability comes in. My other thing is, and I think I looked into this, maybe the answer is out there, maybe someone can tell me. i don't think we know Chowon's age, right?

Speaker: Because I always wondered, was he age gapped already in his marriage? Was he like a lot younger? or is he now a lot older than his partner? Because obviously, the you know, Kyungsoo, the beta, is way younger than the alpha he was married to.

Speaker: Or is he maybe in the middle? I think he might be more in the middle. They never actually went over his age too much, which is interesting because you also, you know, like everyone's fucking age but him. Yeah. he looks like he should be younger, but they were married like a few years ago. And yeah what he wouldn't have been a child. No. He's pretty well respected in his field, too.

Speaker: Yeah, true. so yeah, I'm gonna, but I'm gonna guess he's younger than the older brother, but like, not as young as the beta. Like he's older. If, if the beta and the older brother are 12 years, I could see him being like, in the middle of like six years. So I guess he's younger. I actually you probably a little bit more because i believe the, um the younger brother and his beta bestie, they're, I think, two years older than the Omega and his beta bestie would be.

Speaker: Maths was like yeah you're right Only couple years but I assume that they're Because I think they were in school together so i assume that Yeah they were at school together So that's where I was thinking Chowon would be probably like six years older Than the beta bestie Okay yeah Because that's kind of it anywhere from like four it is six years. Yeah. But we're basically assuming he's kind of more in the middle of. Yeah. Like not really like the same age as older because you could tell the older brother has some age on him. Yeah. Yeah. he I liked that. I always respect like they drew him to look older.

Speaker: Yeah. And like the thing is, he's really not that old. like No, he's like in his early 30s. Yeah, i was like, he's in his early thirty s i want No, I want to say he's like 36 or No, maybe 34. Because he's 12 years older and I want to say the other two were at least 22, but I thought for some reason they 24.

Speaker: I know we could look this up stuff up. It's probably boring to listen us fighting about ages. Someone's screaming because they know the answers. Yeah, comment down if you think so. Okay, so Love is an Illusion.

Speaker: Oh. Hold up. Oh. According to Google, our male lead is about 26 or 27 years old when the series starts. Our male lead?

Speaker: Like the Omega? Yeah. Oh, no, like the... No, no, no, no. The male lead, so... The Alpha? The Alpha. Yeah. He's 26? According to Google, it says he's about 26 or 27.

Speaker: As the story starts, Armega's 20. Yeah, I knew that. I knew was a little older. his brother's in his late Yeah, okay, I did know the brother because I know the sister's like 40-ish.

Speaker: Yeah, but I thought our alpha was probably like 23, 24. Yeah, I thought he was like 2 to 4 years older. I didn't realize he was that much older. Oh, interesting.

Speaker: Because now if you add that 26 plus a 12, that's 38. Yeah, he's almost 40. Okay, Damn! Maybe need to move on from the ages, but that's in so there's a lot of age gaps going on somewhere.

Speaker: Yeah, so then that means Chowan is somewhere in his 30s? Yeah, he has to be at least. even Even if now I'm definitely assuming he's quite a bit younger than his ex-husband. Yeah, He's still going to be quite a bit older than his second husband.

Speaker: Okay, I just quickly Googled it. It says he's apparently 31. So that fits. That puts him in the middle, yeah. Yeah. because So now we're assuming, you know, that it's been at least a year or two, so we're assuming the beta's like 22-ish? Yeah.

Speaker: yeah Yeah, because Buell's like a toddler now? or he's ah He's a toddler. Yeah. Well, it it's interesting because like, in Manwas, when your baby baby...

Speaker: They're like, oh, you're like 18 months. And you're like, how the fuck are you 18 months? Yeah. So he's like learning to kind of talk. So I would say probably within a year.

Speaker: Okay. Year and a half, two. So we're going to assume the betas. 22-ish? 22, 23? Okay. Damn, they draw them really well. And I do love having, like, a, so i I shouldn't say significantly older, but, like, you don't get anyone actually really in your 30s in a lot of BLs. I mean, I know you are now. Manwa does better than Manwa.

Speaker: Manwa does. Manga is a lot younger, but Manwa, I do like the older. That's part of what drew me to Manwa. There's a lot of stories about people in their early 30s. It makes me you feel comfortable. Yeah.

Speaker: Alright, let's continue. Yeah, actually, that was what I have, because the rest is just like little side stories, like more side stories. These are all side stories, by the way. So it just like dives more into um each of their stories, and I don't want to spoil anything else. So this is where I'm going to leave the final... I think where I'm going to be ending it off is like the final... There's like 10 chapters left.

Speaker: Oh, okay. Yeah. So are we doing a third part or? o I don't know. so Because you're not done with side stories, right?

Speaker: I'm not. Or you are. I chose to be done. So I ended my notes early because i feel like to get their dynamic in, you guys just really dive in.

Speaker: Oh, there's so much to these side stories. That's so much better than the fucking main stories. And there's like yeah more embarrassing stories, more like spicy scenes, little silly moments that build each couple up. Yeah.

Speaker: I just remember. So it's like I said, I forgot so much of things. I feel like I remember the like conclusion for each couple. So. I was leaving that open ended. Okay. Okay.

Speaker: I'm here for that. Yeah. Cause. Spoiler alert. I love a little like mystery. Yeah.

Speaker: And like we've discussed it before, there's a lot more to Love is an Illusion, you know, for those who know. So these the official side stories. But then we do have the one spinoff, The Queen. I'm going hold comments on that because we will be visiting that someday. And then, of course, I'm sure most of you listening know that right now, ongoing... Well, it actually might have just continued completed. I'm not sure. But we have um Superstar going on, too.

Speaker: Which is interesting. And that's why... I didn't want to come with a conclusion of the side stories because I would i wanted to like lead into Superstar.

Speaker: Okay. Okay. I like that. We'll discuss how we do that another day. But yeah, how do you feel about all these crazy side stories? Yeah, no, so like going into it, that's all I remember is that I loved the side stories more.

Speaker: I did like the main story, like when you retold it to me. I don't know. There was interesting things about it. Like said it's such an important like foundation to my own Omegaverse journey, even though I can't say I loved it the first time. But um no, i i I just found the side stories more interesting. i like that one of my early Like one of the earliest ones I've read did have that.

Speaker: I love that it covers everything. We got the beta and alpha. We got the alpha and the beta. We started with the basics. It really feels like the perfect Omegaverse 101 story all the way through. And they had so ah they had hinted... Well, no. We had that affair story with alpha and alpha. like They delved into different secondary genders.

Speaker: like They're pairing so well because you have... Like you said, like not only is it beta and omega, it's a dominant omega. It's beautiful dominant omega. and i do It's kind of sweet because especially you know I have never thought about it too much. It being called like love is an illusion. And I do very much love that one because we had this perfect dominant alpha and this perfect dominant omega. And they were married and it just wasn't right. They weren't in love. One was more than the other. It wasn't love. And then...

Speaker: You've got the dominant alpha that just finds this normal basic beta and there's just love. Yeah. And then his little brother found this fucking Omega on the streets. Right. He like he comes from this like perfect high class. like I think they own one third of Korea or something like in wealth and all.

Speaker: And then they're like, wow, this fucking rap. yeah like Yeah, that's my man right there You know it. Right? He's like, i'm white I chased that one down. You wouldn't even know what I went through.

Speaker: He's not even an adominant. He's a recessive. Recessive as fuck. He was so recessive he wasn't even supposed to get pregnant. Isn't that why... i don't We didn't really talk about it too much. Is it is it something to do with that why he was um became infertile?

Speaker: Yeah, so his uterus just... yeah He can't get preggy anymore. And so he's like, oh, we could do it raw. Yeah. And I'm like, you know what? Best of both worlds. They got a cute ass baby. And now they just do raw forever.

Speaker: A lot. I know throughout the series, they were like, how the fuck did he have a baby? Because like, that's how rare it is for a recessive to have a baby. And I'm like, you know, that's a good fucking question. Because they like, they basically had a baby what their first or second time.

Speaker: Like he got pregnant really early on. in time And like it wasn't even in all the way. Like there was, there was, I remember there was some crazy stuff going on. He did not get nodded. and And honestly, it might've had to do with the bond or something.

Speaker: True. if they were already bonded. Yeah. Could have like kind of emphasized it a little bit more, but yeah, his, he can't get pregnant anymore. I'd love to hear some of our listeners views on that or other theories and things.

Speaker: And also, like, i don't know. It's just, it's really interesting because they did tie a lot of knots for the stories.

Speaker: All right. So you having relived it, um i know starting, we both kind of said this wasn't our favorite. How how do you feel looking back now on your reread? And then you've been just telling it to me, to us.

Speaker: cringe so hard rereading it. Okay. The main story, but then I got over it and I'm like, as we kept talking, this is such a good introduction to the Omegaverse. Like if I, I have a lot of favorites. This is not one of my favorites.

Speaker: Other than Buell. He's one of my favorite movies. There's a difference. But it really covers a lot. Where you're right. This is where I do know a lot of my Omegaverse knowledge. When it comes to like those secondary genders. When it comes to the hierarchy. And the fact that they did dive into like recessive and dominant. Because a lot of series, they don't really talk about that either. So it's just it's a really pretty picture. And they even us.

Speaker: us hey, you're lucky that this family loves Omegas because most families are not as open to Omegas, especially ah an Omega just with no background.

Speaker: Yeah. so I think that's more the issue. Yeah. Right? Because they I feel like they they wanted their son to marry the dominant Omega. Yeah, like a nice dominant Omega. And then they're like,

Speaker: who Who is he? And then they're like well shit we did tell him to get Omega. He came back with a baby. So like you you you overachieve technically. Right? What can you do? And he's like got him.

Speaker: Yeah how about you? They like baby trapped with the family. they They really did. Yeah, no, I mean, same thing. I kind of said it Yeah, exactly the same. I don't know that I'd want to sit down and reread the whole thing again. i believe I've reread some side stories before, um but something about this universe, like said, I finished it and I was like, I don't love it.

Speaker: I have the people make fun of me because I always go, I don't really like love and illusion. And then I'll sit there and just start giving them the whole like map of who's married to who, who loves who, who's the brother, who's the this, who's the that. And then it also can be enough that I kept going. I've i've read every Love is an Illusion story. Like said, we won't talk about it too much now because that will be coming at a later date. um And yeah, and every single one, I'll say there's a story that I hate. We will get there. And then there's there's still a story that I'm like, i don't know how I feel about this, but I keep reading them.

Speaker: Yeah. It's not like horrible where it's like, I'm never going to touch this again. Because we all have those series where we're like, nope. Like, yeah one and done. I never dropped any of them.

Speaker: yeah I'm a dropper. I never dropped any. so I'm a dropper too. And i this is one I finished. And I finished a reread. I don't reread often. So um it was really good too. And I think it will help me appreciate some of the sides.

Speaker: The spinoff series more. Yeah. Which I'm like, I saw you getting conceived! Right? But once again, we won't go too much into that. just I have a deeper appreciation for the series. um Yeah, I totally, totally agree.

Speaker: Needs its respects. Yes. Hey to I won't keep you hostage here any longer. ah right um since we're wrapping things up, I think it's okay for me to make an announcement, right?

Speaker: Yes. Okay. hours so hopefully the way things are going, hopefully you guys will be seeing us next week or at least in just a couple of weeks. Um, we did have ah something interesting come up. So i hate to ruin the illusion here, but i do have to tell you we've been recording several weeks out, especially these early episodes here. So right now you're hearing us from the past several weeks in the past. So right here today in the future, I am in just a few days here. I'm actually going to be getting a major surgery.

Speaker: Um, So I'll be out for several weeks after that. We're hoping that with the way things went that um and then with hopefully my recovery is nice and quick. I'm going to have lot of downtime. So I will definitely be reading some BL. Don't you worry about that. um All I'll have is time for a bit. um Yeah. So we're hoping not to disrupt things too much. If you if there are a couple of weeks in between, um you know, understand why we're going to keep, you know,

Speaker: We haven't really said this before. We've got our Instagram. It's probably the best place to follow us. We are the Flopcast. Or sorry, just Flopcast. Anywhere you can find us, we're going to Flopcast. And so follow us there. We'll definitely do updates in that.

Speaker: We're hoping to not skip any weeks. If we do, it's only going to be a week or two, I'm sure, before we get back on posting schedule. um And then also just so you guys know, so so those of you who are watching videos, I'm sure you guys can see my background's a little bit different. i am in my, ah this is actually my like childhood bedroom at my mom's house.

Speaker: but But yeah, so we hope to be back soon. We hope to look different. We hope to both have fresh haircuts, fresh hair dyes. um so it's going to be like a little time skip. So we just want to let you guys know, um even if the skip doesn't happen, you know, if there's no break, we still just want you guys to know what's going on.

Speaker: And I am excited to come back. um I do want to say I've been telling Moon that ah I've been going through some some health stuff. Nothing too bad. No one no one worry about me. um But this podcast, I've just been so excited about it and I haveve so much fun doing it that like it's really helped gotten me through a not the best time. And it's one of my biggest like drives that I just want to get back and get better and just get this podcast going. I don't want to break this momentum. i'm like I'm excited.

Speaker: I'm so excited. i'm I'm happy with how everything's going. And, you know, we have, we may or may not have the break, like Chels has said, but thank you guys so much for being here with us because this started off kind of almost like a crazy, like, idea. It was a joke. And we actually, we have chronic, like, ADHD. So the fact that we have, like, walked in. Mind you, we conceived this back in May,

Speaker: Like late bay ah Yeah. move This has been like a passion project and I'm fortunate and happy that I'm able to do it with. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. I hope that anyone listening is having a good time too. um We want to get better and more exciting and we want to get more people involved. And yeah, just i think I think we can go fun places with this and I'm excited.

Speaker: And if my dyslexic ass will stop pushing names together. not it all but yeah It's fine. I'll call you out as we go. i got to be the audience and be like, um and then like we said, you guys, if you ever, everyone has comments, you know, you can comment that we're on Spotify or on Apple.

Speaker: Go ahead and drop some comments below. Get on our Instagram. That's like one of the best ways we can feel free to DM us. Like we want to talk to you guys. Please be nice. We know we've said this before. We are not experts. We don't know everything.

Speaker: we are not pretending like we do. We don't want to. We want to learn. Like we're excited to be here. We like learning new things. So nicely tell us new things. We want to learn. we're We're just here to talk about boys getting pregnant. So like, don't be mean to us. Yeah.

Speaker: No, literally. But also, like, drop suggestions, too. like Yeah, what do you guys want to see? What do you want to hear us talk about? What should we read next? We're already there. Like, we're always looking for our next one. And I already would love suggestions.

Speaker: Yeah. All right. And if you have a different opinion, let us know nicely. Nicely. Whether or not you actually do like doujin. Yeah.

Speaker: yeah Respectfully, I wouldn't disagree, but, you know, that's what we're here for. The original Love is an Illusion, I read reading comments and like I was getting so mad because I felt like everyone was on his side. everyone And I was like, no, I'm over here, team, um you know.

Speaker: Team Omega. I remember the first chapters, everyone being, he's a rapist, he's horrible. And then like the second the baby came into play, everyone's like, he's great. He wants to be a good dad and bala and he's abandoned the baby and whatever.

Speaker: We'll go there another day. But yeah, we're excited. We love a good, respectful conversation. It makes me things more fun. If people agree. i hope that Moon and I can have more disagreements. I think that'll be really fun.

Speaker: I'm sure we will. I'm sure we will. It's got to happen. Because I am team Alpha Alpha. You're team Alpha Omega. Yeah, it's going to come up eventually where we're like, no, it went the wrong way. I kind of have an idea maybe where things can go differently, but we'll see. Anyways. Yeah.

Speaker: I said, just, I appreciate anyone listening, you know, all two of our viewers or whatever we have so far. cut out Love you guys. And yeah, I'm like said, excited to come back. Cannot wait.

Speaker: Yes. Any who. um Yeah. Thank you guys. And get flopped. Get flopped.

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