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EP47: Tactics Tuesday

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Join Matt and Luke analyse Chelsea's tactics against United and some juicy transfer rumours!

Where do Chelsea need to improve and do we need more experienced players in the squad? 

Host: Matt Blagdon

Guest: Luke Chandler

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Introduction and Tactics Tuesday

00:00:09
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Hello and welcome to the Daily Chelsea, brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network.

Chelsea vs. Manchester United: Tactical Breakdown

00:00:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm your host Matt, and I'm joined today by Luke on Tactics Tuesday. Luke, how are you doing today?
00:00:22
Luke Charlton
very very well feeling very tactical so uh i think this is a match made in heaven
00:00:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, absolutely. We call you Tactical Luke for a reason. because you bring the goods, you bring the views, you bring the knowledge, everything, everything. There's quite a lot to discuss from united the United game in terms of our tactics, but also looking ahead and just our tactics in general this season week.
00:00:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe slightly off-ball, but I mean it was literally off-ball. Some dirty tactics from United um trying to stop us. think pretty much every team has gone on to a player called Cole Palmer that we possess. Arguably the best player in the world at the moment so and everyone's trying their way of trying to stop him.
00:01:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we saw on the second half that when Palmer flicked the ball over Martinez's head, as he is the ballet dancer that he is, Martinez didn't like this.

Player Leadership and Team Adaptation

00:01:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he just ugly slipped, but more often than likely just got his studs up and went for the beautiful kneecap of Cole Palmer. He got a yellow, but there was a debate that he should have seen red. What did you think of that?
00:01:33
Luke Charlton
I mean, Martinez is a bit of a character, isn't he? I think he yeah he has a certain way of defending and it is very reckless. And I think, yeah, that on a different day, on ah on on an any given Sunday, it could be it could be a red card, it it could not be. And I think you can give the benefit of the doubt that It wasn't particularly full force. I mean, the the the the the intent was obviously ah ah pretty obvious behind the eyes, but we we spoke on yesterday's pod a little bit about how Robert Sanchez, for example, for the penalty, he sort of fully committed, went in and gave the referee no option. Whereas Martinez, he is kind of that savviness of his defense. I'm getting ah ah an image and in my head from kind of last season. I think there was an incident where he kind of two footed jumped
00:02:25
Luke Charlton
on to someone but didn't quite make contact but it was like the whole thing was so reckless but it wasn't a red card because he didn't actually foul them or it didn't go fully through but it was like the whole thing is just like why are you doing that like but and and it's the same thing why are you kicking cold palma in the knee in the first place that you know if you'd gone through and like extended your leg like that is that that's that you could like end his career and you could get like a band you can be banned like obviously see players like that's a horrific foul play but it's with that intent of like oh I'll run my studs along your knee but I know I'm in control it's it's that weird thing of like you're just pissing everyone off like but you know that you're still just about able to get away with it so yeah I think on the balance I mean
00:02:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. Hmm.
00:03:08
Luke Charlton
that ah i'm a fan that that i never like to see players get red cards but that also doesn't mean i'd like to see players get away with things i don't i think there's an argument both ways to be had there that that yeah it could have been a red card because the intent is there but the actual action itself when it ended up when they kind of take it away from slo-mo i don't i don't think in real time i think look it's it's an end of the game it's about it's a poorly timed tackle but but it could have been far worse and and yeah i think i think the yellow card is justified But yeah, yeah're you're right.

Tactical Evolution and Learning in Competitions

00:03:36
Luke Charlton
It's definitely something to watch. I mean, we had it for years with Eden Hazard constantly getting fouled because he was our talisman.
00:03:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:03:42
Luke Charlton
and and And it's something that Palmer has has to kind of adapt to. And I think he will. I think he's i's seen it now for every season and a half. he knows He knows that he's going to be talented and he's going to have to ah kind of ride with that for the rest of his career, really, because he's such a special talent.
00:03:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he is going to get double marked, triple marked, hacked, you know, pulled back, tripped, everything really. They're going to play every game they can to try and stop him and and quell his his wonder and beauty. Tricky things for United, just in terms of the whole club. but And I guess we saw that towards the end of the game when Neto intercepted Garnaccio, ran away from him. Garnaccio just gave up.
00:04:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
and then Casamiro had to come in and and tackle Neto because Garnaccio didn't want to run back and then Casamiro shouting at ala Alejandro Garnaccio because of that really putting him and in his place and almost his leadership qualities of Casamiro that we've kind of haven't seen for so long in recent memory were coming out again.
00:04:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
With Chelsea, we seem to have, you know, leadership qualities in players like Cole Will, but and and potentially Ruth James, although Maruska has been quite critical of him in recent weeks. Does Chelsea need more leaders in the first team?
00:04:58
Luke Charlton
It's a difficult one because there's always going to be a sense of naivety with a team this young. A lot of them haven't really had this level of experience at this level of of club and kind of the importance of every fixture where you are expected to dominate and win every game. They are coming from a system of of youth player where it's all about tactics, it's all about principles, it's all about getting yourself ready for the big leagues. So results are obviously important you want to win every game but we'd much rather you learn the system we'd much rather you improve we'd much rather here's your here's what you've been set out to do for this match if you execute your tasks that's great you're going to look good for your under 21s coach and you're going to be able to progress on and I think in the system where we completely again we still 10 games into a whole new style of play where we're resetting a lot of kind of players mindsets where
00:05:50
Luke Charlton
but we we are we are going to get beat out in transition because of the overloads we play and because of the dynamism we play with in attack and there's going to be excellent moments where we will find through lines and thread lines through the middle of the park. think of a a chance in the first half we had actually that was that was really well executed with ca sayo and Lavia playing kind of high pressure balls, one twos in and out through the midfield, later off out to Neto, he cuts inside and just just fires it wide, but it's it's it's it's moments like that where I look at and go, <unk> they're focusing on the tactical side of things. The leadership will come when
00:06:25
Luke Charlton
Again, they've got they've got more games inside their belt. They have more belief in the fact that the system will work um and it youll see fruit. And yeah, I think you have to be involved in the high intensity and situations and and feel like you've got to rise to it. And I think there are games which is again,
00:06:41
Luke Charlton
Carabao Cup were never guaranteed to win it, but it's a shame we went out in that game because moments like that, they really helped define a team and they helped give you those those those moments where you feel like, yeah, actually, we've been here before, we can overcome kind of difficulty and adversity.

Need for Experience and Leadership Structure

00:06:54
Luke Charlton
And and I think that that that's that's a really clear indictment, actually, that game in the Carabao Cup where I didn't feel really that, yes, I mean, we didn't we didn't bring all the best players and we didn't really go for it in terms of to to overturn that 2-0 deficit, but I would have been surprised if we had that kind of mentality to to to to do so, but just because with the system, you can't really go against it. I mean, we we looked with it last year, there's definitely men's out this character there. I mean, it's clear. We had some great results on the Pochettino where we we sort of pulled the rabbit out of the hat. So there's clearly players in there that I mean, apart from Cole Palm, it's obviously excellence and brilliance as a footballer.
00:07:31
Luke Charlton
there are players there that have a mindset that really want to go and will drive for it and it's very clear but we've got got a good strong core of players there that that care about the football club and care about what they're doing and I'm impressed by a lot of the fringe players as well because they all have good attitudes but but i I think you just need sometimes that old head to be like I've been around the block and I know what we're doing here like do you think of players that of yesteryear that would be influential not even just kind of the icons of the club but player a player like a Gary Cahill, for example. Just someone who has been involved at the top end like and and knows knows their stuff and know knows their ability to kind of to just see out games or certain moments they don't need you to be kind of anxious or nervous. Just just just just play your football and you'll be fine. that The football will work itself out. And you look you look at that in contrast, say, for the way that Chelsea maybe play and the way that that you look at, say, like Liverpool play.
00:08:27
Luke Charlton
the The football styles are obviously very different. slot Slot has his way of doing things and Mariska has his way of doing things, but I look at that team and think there is ah ah so much experience there, let alone the quality. They've all been in hard moments and high pressure moments.
00:08:40
Luke Charlton
yeah if if Caenate messes up or amid one of the young midfielders, if McAllister's having an off game or whatever, you've got your van Dyck there, you've got your sellers there, you've got the players that have done it and seen it all, that will just kind of take the pressure off of them. And at the moment we're we're we're having the element of, we have leaders, but you can't look around and go to Reece James and be like,
00:09:03
Luke Charlton
What do we do here, boss? Because he hasn't as much as he is, is is the captain of the club and he has reached the pinnacle of football. He's won the Champions League. he it he won the Champions League with Rudiger and Giorgino and those sorts of players, Aspen Aquetta of course, like that were the ones that were leading the group and saying like, look, let's keep our heads up here, like let's let's really drive, we can win this, we can do do things. You focus on your football talent. They're now at a point where the talent is clear to city, they're established, but they now need to be able to go, right, okay,
00:09:36
Luke Charlton
i've got around this group I've got to round the group up and just be like, look, you we're good enough, we can do this. and And yeah, some of our star performers and some of our rising talent and and excellent players we have, just just haven't got that level of kind of, now, so being like, hang on a minute, let's take a step back. So when you're looking at players where I think Maresca has called us, for example, Tosinero Abbao, good leader,
00:10:00
Luke Charlton
slightly more senior member of the squad, but ultimately he hasn't been in the situations that someone like a Reece James has been in. So maybe he will feel like, I can't really speak up because I've not played a Champions League. Like I've not been in those moments. I've not, I've not had dramatic comebacks in in in knockout rounds. and And, and you do look that there's an element of, and and I think there there are some things where we you think like, Oh, well,
00:10:21
Luke Charlton
Ben Chilwell is very experienced, gets nowhere near the team. He's not even involved in the squad. So you wonder where you come from where the leaders can feel like, well, what is leadership to Maresque? Does he want performance on the pitch? Or does he want someone who's been around the block, understands the club? Do you know what I mean? that That sort of thing. So you look at leadership and yeah and and I just think,
00:10:40
Luke Charlton
They need to be able to play as a core for a long time, to not be unsettled by new by a load of new signings, a load of change, and just let themselves establish. And and have that confidence and say they put their foot on the ball, they put their when they walk out on the pitch. I know what's expected of me, and I know what's expected of this football club. Let's go out and bloody do it. That's the standard reset.
00:11:00
Luke Charlton
and And it's hard, it's hard because a seven out of 10 performance under Pochettino is going to be a dreadful performance for a Maresca. But you you play beautiful Maresca football, you're not going to be resolute and and grinding out one near wins because that isn't necessarily how his football will be. So so you look at the the the profiles of lead quote unquote leaders, what what can we get from that? And I think we'll only understand that the more and more that this this squad plays this football and understands what their roles are within the team.
00:11:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Interesting. Yeah, lots of ponder there, Luke. I've got some questions about potential Chelsea transfers after this break.

Midfield Dynamics and Transfer Speculations

00:12:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Welcome back to Tactics Tuesday. We're recording just in light of the United game, but looking ahead to the game against Arsenal as well. Luke, there's always an era where the Chelsea team can then improve, and I think what's been most highlighted ever since Enzo was taken out of the... well, not taken out of the team, but was injured last season, and so we had a double pivot of Gallagher and Quesado.
00:12:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
midfield the team seemed to just gel a lot better that season and then we went on to to win our last five games and secure sixth and everything was pretty rosy and then again this season Enzo when he's played in some crucial matches particularly against you know Man City he hasn't been as you know good as we would really hope he would be and And with Lavia coming back into the frame, not being injured, he's kind of really showing the difference in physicality between himself and Enzo and how crucial that is in the middle of the park and the way that we play. And um you said yesterday, sort of Lavia is just such a cool customer on the ball. He's got so much composure and he's just a wonderful, wonderful player.
00:13:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Being said that, you know Enzo, he's cost us over 106 million pounds, and it looks like he just doesn't quite fit the team as a whole. He's a brilliant playmaker, he's got a lot of passion and aggression, but too often he can just be pushed off the ball a bit too easily, um he doesn't quite do what Kaisodo and Lavia do to the level that they do it as well.
00:14:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
And in recent weeks, there's been rumors that Real Madrid are very interested in Enzo Fernandez, and that Carlo Ancelotti would love to have him there. And they would potentially either pay ah ah about 75 million ah ah euros for him, or there's a potential swap deal with Chiu Emeni from Real Madrid to Chelsea, and then Enzo Fernandez going to Real Madrid. so What do you make of the these rumours? Do you think there's any weight behind them? And if there is, which would you prefer? Would you just prefer straight money for Enzo? Or would you prefer the swap transfer for Tuamani?
00:14:39
Luke Charlton
I think we for the time being, until we hear any more concrete root like kind of reporting on this, I think we have to put this down to just silly season, silly off season of the transfer window, where a agents are looking for anything for their clients. They're talking anything up to to anyone that will listen. I mean, if we take if we take the whole concept with a pinch of salt,
00:14:57
Luke Charlton
But but we we said we we'll live in a hypothetical world where this is ah ah a kind of bonafide transfer news that there's a discussion going on. You have to look at it and think, yeah, I mean, Enzo was brought in at a time when the club was essentially looking to make a name for itself without really knowing what that meant.
00:15:14
Luke Charlton
uh they were signing your big signs of sterling you were getting your Kula Bali's coming in you would go you eat would go all out in January for a record signing for a midfielder who just won the world cup and granted was one of the top performers for Argentina at the tournament this was was ah ah lighting it up in different displays and made a real difference to a team that that initially looked like they could have gone out in the group stages. He came in and was one of the Catholics to getting them going in the right direction. And you think how Callister went in the same window, or sorry, it went in the summer of of being another big signing from that Argentina midfield that was going to be there for years to come. And you look you do look at it and go, okay, yeah, he but he was a great acquisition. Definitely paid overpaid for him because we wanted him.
00:15:57
Luke Charlton
But you look at it now, does his profile really fit? Is he like a Conor Gallagher type that actually is just more of a ball player as opposed to being the the kind of aggressive presser? I think he has that element to his game. But you do look now, he doesn't doesn't really fit in an attacking sense because he's not as good as Cole Palmer or Zhao Felix or Nkunku in that sort of position. And he's not as good as a holding midfield or um kind of a midfield marshal because that's and again not his game he he he sprays the ball around he just doesn't fit the system where we but where we we isolate in transition we we have we have moments where yeah where we over crowd areas of the pitch to create overloads and then we will, we will, we will switch out to the other the side as quickly as possible. He's great for the switch in terms of picking out the ball, but but there's no, so there's no pack that there isn't enough pace in his game. And again, I spoke about it yesterday, but I don't think he has the blinkers in the same way that, I said, I love you do where.
00:16:56
Luke Charlton
which is pretty much evidently shown in terms of how we got overrun in the midfield by Newcastle in the Carabao Cup. we We didn't have someone who is as confident, not knowing where the play is behind them, taking the ball and receiving it. Now he can do it, but it's just, it's it's that element of that extra touch. its it's It's a little bit of sloppiness and that that but allows someone to, you need that sloppiness because it allows you to be creative and and have that flair and the element of that killer pass. And he has that.
00:17:23
Luke Charlton
But if you told me that Real Madrid were coming in with a £75 million pound offer, I wouldn't say no. I really wouldn't. and and And that's not to say that I don't think he's good enough and I don't think he could be great for Chelsea. It's just a case of, for that amount of money, to have recouped and say a loss of of only, what, 35, 40 million, which is still significant. It's still significant, of course it is. But the fact that we have players like Andrés Santos that are on loan that are lighting up the the lighting up the the league on,
00:17:50
Luke Charlton
you've you've got you've we've got options there we've got i mean i would take kian and drewsbury hall in in our more in a more elevated role within the team i'm not saying he gets anybody ever starting a lineup but to to be someone that instead of anzo comes he comes on when when we're 20 minutes left of the game i don't think I mean, you miss his passing, of course, but but i don't I don't think there's much of ah ah of a ah a ah a difference saying that, okay, he's fine. He's totally suitable as a squad player, bringing him on. don't I'm not going to feel like, oh, we're going to lose now. With 20 minutes to go, we've got a pathage on the pitch. It doesn't feel like that, of course.
00:18:24
Luke Charlton
So yeah, I would say if that was to come in, take the money, you said about true money. I'm always skeptical of when you have a top team trying to offload talent. So I think a like for like swap, but there's got to be a reason why they're getting rid of him and the same reason that we're accepting to let Enzo Fernandez go. So I think you've got to take that with a grain of salt. So yeah, it's for me, I take ah take take as much money as we can. I think anything
00:18:51
Luke Charlton
like The way he's performed and the way that we are as a club and the position we're in, we we don't have a lot of power at the moment when it comes to making money from sales in the way that we may have done previously. I mean, you look you look at, again, wasn't necessarily under the same coaching, under the same management structure, but we we had opportunities to get someone like Hudson and Doyle for books of 50 million and he ends up going for like seven and a half or whatever it was. We just get, we get, we get tuppence really for for a player that that actually is really showing his benefit now at Nottingham Forest.
00:19:21
Luke Charlton
and and you think you think you think things like that I'm going well we have to chalk potentially Enzo Fernandez up as not I wouldn't say a mistake but very much an over over purchase very much so I think if if he'd been 50 million
00:19:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, massive investment when we didn't need to.
00:19:35
Luke Charlton
wouldn't be, wouldn't be bothered. I'd be like, that's fine. He's performing at a level of a player that's got a lot of talent. He's a Premier League player. Is he fitting in in the starting 11 of this system? That's a lot easier to say no to someone when you, when, when the average kind of price of a football is now is around about that 35, 40 million mark.
00:19:51
Luke Charlton
you It doesn't feel as big of an issue, but when you're breaking transfer records for a play you sign in January, it does, it does feel a bit like he has to be kept in some way.
00:19:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's very true, isn't it?
00:19:59
Luke Charlton
But, but I think, yeah, if if we could recoup two thirds, three quarters of the money we spent I would take it and just chalk it up.
00:20:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, he's on a, he's on a massive, massive multi-year deal. So that's there. So, you know, if if, if teams want to come and get him, they've got to, you know, cough up a big price to to justify that just because, you know, you know, it's not like he's on ah on a one year contract or anything like that.
00:20:17
Luke Charlton
yeah
00:20:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
So yeah, it's definitely a lot of money.
00:20:22
Luke Charlton
Yeah, he he doesn't he doesn't have that power. Yeah, he doesn't have the power to dictate what he's going to do ultimately. <unk>s He's tied into the project and I i think he i think he'd want to stay.
00:20:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:31
Luke Charlton
but But I mean, ultimately as well, if Fran Madrid come calling for you, it's going to turn anyone's head. They're going to have to think about it at some point.
00:20:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh yeah.
00:20:37
Luke Charlton
and so
00:20:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's very true. It's hard for, you know, an Argentinian as well to turn down sunny Spain when he is in England, you know, as, well as wonderful as Chelsea is and all the glamour that it is, it deals, it still does have that British weather, which can't compete with Spain's unfortunately.
00:20:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
anyway, we'll be back from the break and there's one final transfer rumor that I'd like to discuss with you, Luke.

Paul Pogba's Potential Fit at Chelsea

00:21:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Welcome back, it's Tactics Tuesday, and Luke, we've just discussed our potential midfield potential midfield swap with Enzo and Germany, maybe slightly more apt and closer to home, considering our last opponent was Manchester United.
00:21:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
In the last year Paul Pogba was convicted of doping and banned from football for for four years. That's not been reduced and so he only has to do 18 months so that's only about six months away from being complete.
00:22:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
So he'll potentially be a free agent in some in the summer, depending on what goes on with his Juventus contract. But there's a lot of talk about where he could go he leaves Juventus. He is going to be 32 by next summer, so into the latter years of his career for sure.
00:22:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
But is there a world in which Paul Pogba joining Chelsea works, Luke? I mean, we've discussed having a lack of physicality with Enzo and, you know, so we mainly just see it with Lavia and Caesado. But we can't rely on those two players for the entire season to play every game. And you almost want two very strong, very close in ability and level one fitness 11s throughout the season.
00:22:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Pogba, you know, has got a vast amount of experience, she could which could help, you know, the the young Chelsea team as we've been speaking about leaders. I almost think it would be fantastic to have him at Chelsea just for the glamour and, you know, on his day, he's an absolute world-beater. Admittedly, that is maybe, you know, few and far between. But surely, Maresco could work some magic here.
00:23:19
Luke Charlton
So you're asking me if I think we should, if if we could sign Paul Pogba, should we?
00:23:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:23:24
Luke Charlton
In a word, absolutely not. I mean, that's two words, but I will humor you for a second and and live in this kind of hypothetical scenario where Paul Pogba is playing at Chelsea.
00:23:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh
00:23:35
Luke Charlton
i think we I think ultimately we just run into the same difficulty we have at Enzo, where he's he's got a great range of passing. He's he's a phenomenal phenomenal physical presence in the midfield, but but where where does he fit when you have a midfield that is set of pressing energy that is able to play on the blind side and also has an underlapping fallback to come into the midfield alongside you? Where does a Paul Pogba style of footballer fit into a team? He doesn't have the engine that he had in his like early Juventus days, he's that's not his style of play, he he he is he is a
00:24:12
Luke Charlton
play the game at his pace he is pick out a killer ball he is dominate a space yeah of course but has he got the right mentality has he got the right mindset yes he'll have a point to prove he'll want to be back playing football Can anyone tell me for a sustained period of time when Paul Pogba has been excellent? He has had some very good moments and his best moments have been for France in competitions where you play every three or four days, you can keep yourself switched on, know that for three weeks you give it your all and then that's it.
00:24:43
Luke Charlton
Can he do it over a 30-year game season? I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it when he's been the main main man. And I think the pulpit that everyone raved about for for so long for Juventus was playing in the midfield alongside your pillows, your marquesios.
00:24:59
Luke Charlton
excellent excellent like Italian footballers that have been around the block and they know what they're doing you've got a to a tour of Dao was there at the time like there's some great engine room players that can allow a bit of a flamboyant languid midfielder in Paul Pogba to do his thing and to and to kind of hold people at arm's length when he's playing and Yes, he is a talented footballer. I just don't think in this Mareska system he gets anywhere near the starting 11 because I just don't know where you fit him. I don't know where you put him. but when when you've When you've got the presence of ah of Augusta or Cucarello or James kind of underlapping and playing and that whole thing with Phil.
00:25:34
Luke Charlton
alongside Lavio, who's getting the first ball. Quesedo's running out the pitch, he's that box-to-box, he's that presser, he's that tenacious midfielder. You've got Cole Palmer dropping in indeed to receive the ball. Where is Pogba going to be stood? Where is he going to be? He's going to be getting in the way, he's not going to be involved in the play. But he is though, he is though. You're looking at it this way, our front three, you've got Neto Madawecki, that's Jackson. Their whole prerogative is stretch the back line, stretch them as far as you can, hug those touch lines, cut inside when you need to, underlap.
00:26:03
Luke Charlton
but go on the outside. Then the defensive shape is to move in and to flood that box area in front of the centre halves and make that area our own and create the positions from there. Pogba, that is not where he plays, that is not where he plays. He he plays he plays in a position of slightly slightly off the top of the pitch, he plays fairly high up the field, but it is it's that's that option to kind of play those swinging passes in to to to to create, again, to create moments of of overlap on the far side. He creates pressure on the far side. ah ah it takes if he's playing I think a lot of the time he's kind of playing that sort of centre mid, left mid sort of position. i i just think I just think he will get in the way of some of the players. And that's not him being incorrect or not knowing what to do. I'm not saying that. I just mean a player of that style just doesn't work in the system. And it's it will be exactly the same issues we're having with Fernandez.
00:26:57
Luke Charlton
who wants who wants to find the ball in space in areas that actually we don't need those sorts of players, we we need players on top of other players to be able to outmaneuver them ultimately.
00:27:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. Hmm.
00:27:08
Luke Charlton
you need You need to be dynamic, you need to be able to take the ball under pressure because when you when you beat that press, we have so much open space. The amount of times you see Chelsea attacking in a transition where it's like four on two,
00:27:19
Luke Charlton
that that that is the that is the That is the moment that Mariscal wants. He wants a player to be in a position. You look at the Cole Palmer touch he made against Man United, where they Gary Neville was waxing lyrical about it being the moment of the match, where he took that one touch and beat two players and just walked basically walked through them to get the ball.
00:27:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hm.
00:27:35
Luke Charlton
And it's like, that is not what Pogba does. He has the skill to probably do it, but i just i just like that would be it and he wouldn't do anything for the rest of the game. Do you know what I mean? he who He would look at that and go, yeah, that's my moment.
00:27:47
Luke Charlton
I've done it now. he would just sort of, and then walk around the pitch and be involved. Like, I don't know. i Maybe I'm being a bit harsh, but I do look at him and go, I just, I think football's moved on from that style, in particular in the system we're playing.
00:27:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Kind of. Woah.
00:27:59
Luke Charlton
Maybe he'd have been better under Poch.

Transfer Rumors and Closing Thoughts

00:28:00
Luke Charlton
Actually, there's maybe an argument that under Poch, Tina, he could have been more influential.
00:28:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe.
00:28:04
Luke Charlton
but But we won't know, because that's not our manager anymore, so.
00:28:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Exactly. You know, if Pogba was American um right now, then maybe, maybe he would fit into the US national team.
00:28:11
Luke Charlton
Yeah, he'd walk into the US team, yeah.
00:28:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
But exactly, yes. Maybe he would.
00:28:16
Luke Charlton
Oh, cup winner.
00:28:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, he would. ah Just for a different country. Don't know what happened there, but you know, now I'm American. That's it. comprehensive, Luke, thank you very much for that.
00:28:26
Luke Charlton
Yeah, thanks.
00:28:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let us know what you think in the comments below. Should Chelsea sign Pogba? Should we sign Schumanni? Should we sell Enzo? Loads of different things to ponder. Luke, thanks so much for being here.
00:28:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's been Tactics Tuesday.
00:28:39
Luke Charlton
No, thank thank you for having me. Thank you for allowing me to vent my feelings on Paul Pogba, which i I think had been recessed in the back of my mind.
00:28:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's all right, you know, just after that's what you want to do after work, isn't it? Just vent about Paul Pogba.
00:28:49
Luke Charlton
Yeah, and typical Tuesday evening.
00:28:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely. Absolutely. I've been Matt, everyone. Thanks so much for tuning in to Tech Sticks Tuesday on the Daily Chelsea. You can find us five days a week on the Global Sports Podcast Network. Have a great week and we'll see you on the next one.