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EP. 32 VAULT- The Poughkeepsie Tapes (2007)
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This is an episode from the vault so excuse the lack of sound board (and personality lol). The boys review a film set in their home town in The Poughkeepsie Tapes. A movie referenced throughout the show but the episode was never published!
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Introduction and Listener Engagement
00:00:01
Speaker
Hello and welcome to another episode of Two Guys, One Screen. My name is Nick. And I'm Gerald. And today we have a, this is not a fame requested review. It's just a review we wanted ah to do ourselves, right? Yeah. This is a movie I've wanted to watch for a while, but I've been pretty scared to watch it. I think it's a movie we both wanted to watch for a while. You live it longer than me. Yeah. Um,
00:00:30
Speaker
But we'll get into that first. We can do a little plug. Follow us on Instagram. Two guys, one screen pod. And if you have any requests, comments, concerns, you can send us an email to guys, one screen pod at gmail dot.com. And don't send us chat GPT. Generated emails. Shout out Jake. Shout out Jake.
00:00:59
Speaker
I only said that because I cut it last episode. It's fair. ah All right.
Nick's Recent Media Pickups
00:01:05
Speaker
Get into some physical media pickups. I need to go first. Yeah, go for it. All right. It's pretty pretty big haul, I would say. Number one, I got Boys in the Hood. Not the criteria. I'm sorry. I haven't seen this movie ever, so I got it for five bucks. I got classic Nick bought the wrong thing, but Ouija.
00:01:30
Speaker
And I wanted the one that was the Mike Flanagan, like the second one, which I guess is a prequel, but I bought this. Uh, so I'm not sure about this one, but I'm probably gonna watch it at some point. I've heard it's pretty good though. So you might not be out of luck. Okay. Then I got Oculus brand new, still wrapped $5. Mike Flanagan. You guys can see him on my, my, my Mike Flanagan living my Mike Flanagan era over here. Now I absolutely love that movie. I saw it in theaters.
00:01:58
Speaker
I watched Gerald's game and I'm like, let me watch more Mike Flanagan movies. He's a good director. Uh, this movie, yeah I was told to watch by a friend. You know who you are. Uh, public enemies. It has Christian Bale and Johnny Depp. Okay. And it's like a gangster. It's like a gangster movie. It can't be bad, right? Christian Bale. It was $5. I mean, whatever. And then this one, I feel like you've been telling me to watch for a long time. George A. Romero creep show.
00:02:28
Speaker
The original is like a big blind spot in my horror catalog. Just haven't seen it. Anthologies in general or the creep show. There's multiple, right? Yeah. there's One, two. And there's a show on shutter. I haven't seen any of it. So why not start now? Pretty good. The last two are finishing up my alien franchise physical media collection. I got alien covenant on 4K because they didn't have it on Blu-ray.
00:02:59
Speaker
It's fine. I actually, this is in my top three. You guys already heard our episode on, uh, on alien Romulus. So you know how I feel. And then I've never seen this or the other one, but I got ABP Requiem. This movie is supposedly big ass, which is weird because that one is the sequel. That one's rated R. The first one is PG 13. Well, I'm going to watch them both and I'll get back to you guys. Not great. No. Uh, and those are.
00:03:29
Speaker
Those are this week's pickups. What do you got?
Gerald's Recent Movie Adventures
00:03:32
Speaker
All right. So I got this movie called Unseen. Uh, it's about this lady who apparently has a stalker and then she goes to a mental institution and finds out that her stalker works at the institution. Creepy. The plot sounds interesting. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Then I got Batman under the red hood. Great fucking movie.
00:03:59
Speaker
Yeah, it's shameful they released that other, they released Death in the Family and it's literally just that movie, but you can just choose the outcome. It's like, yeah it's such a money grab. And then a recommendation from you, End of Watch, Jake Gyllenhaal and Mike Pena. Dude, this movie is so good. You're going to love it. It's such a good cop thriller and it's shot partially through first person.
00:04:28
Speaker
Like body cam. Like body cam footage. It's it's really, really fun. Pretty intense. I give it a four and a half on letterbox. That's great. Jake Gyllenhaal bald kind of disturbs me, but it's all right. It's off putting at first, but you get used to it. And then like once you see him in the role, you're like, all right, this makes sense for you. OK. Another cop movie that I've never seen and wanted to. ah Beverly Hills Cop with Eddie Murphy. I've seen parts of it.
00:04:55
Speaker
Eddie Murphy's cool. Yeah, he's kind of a dickhead. I heard my brother worked for him once. Shout out my brother, Lenny. Yeah, he was like building a tennis court on his property and he was like constantly coming out, like telling them how he wants it and like just being a dickhead about it. He's like, let me just do my job. My ah my old boss, not my old boss, he's currently my boss, recommended me a bunch of movies from the 80s and a lot of them have like Eddie Murphy in them and he's I don't know if he just wanted money or if he was just like start getting started in his acting career. But all these movies, they're the other actors in the film, like the characters are so racist to his character. And I'm like, how did he just take this? ah They're all comedies, right? Like action comedies. Yeah. But it's like it just hasn't aged well. Oh, OK. Yeah. ah You kind of meant that, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. ah Then we got.
00:05:54
Speaker
Paddington two. Let's go. Because you recommended the first one. Still have not watched it. However, Paddington two, you also recommended and the third one's coming out. So. Paddington and Peru. Let's do it. I'm a Stan. Shout out to cinema Joe. Cause he's, he was a lifelong Stan. That's the guy who put me onto Paddington. Oh, okay.
00:06:17
Speaker
And then the last movie is Pearl Harbor with Ben Affleck. If you know, you know, which you got real mad that I hadn't seen that. Yeah, dude. It's really good. Yeah, but I've been there. I know, but I watched it in school, too. Who's in that film? You just said Ben Affleck.
00:06:34
Speaker
Yeah, you got ah Ben Affleck and Kate Beckingsdale. Who is the co-star of Vacancy? There you go. Full circle.
Review of The Poughkeepsie Tapes Begins
00:06:46
Speaker
All right. So we'll get to our our scene by scene review. If you haven't seen this movie, spoiler alert, go watch it. Come back. We should talk about why we picked this movie.
00:07:01
Speaker
So the name of the movie we are reviewing this week is the Poughkeepsie tapes. Little fun fact. We grew up in the Poughkeepsie area. Yeah, think if you wrote my address, it would say Poughkeepsie on it. Yeah. Plus, I was a little bitch when it came to horror movies. And then on top of that, having this one out there in the open,
00:07:30
Speaker
Was just like, but that's fucking creepy. So this movie had a very interesting release. Uh, it was only in theaters for a short period of time before it got pulled due to, uh, companies, you know, licensing issues and everything. So there was like a big rumor that the movie was banned because of how fucked up it is. Oh, really? That's not true. Yeah. MGM pulled from the whole John.
00:08:00
Speaker
Yeah, the whole John. Yeah, MGM pulled their distribution rights because of the backlash that they were getting. Was this like a similar to like a Blair Witch style release where everyone thought was real and it wasn't? Yeah, which I guess I just spoiled it, but movies not real, guys. No, it's a it's a mockumentary on a serial killer in Poughkeepsie, but there was a serial killer in Poughkeepsie in the 90s. Fun fact, my brother met him.
00:08:30
Speaker
Really? Shout out my brother again, dude. Wow, two shots in one episode. Yeah, he used to like work at a Arlington Middle School. The killer or your brother? The killer. He's like a janitor. That's pretty wild. Yeah. Oh, so your brother was a student then. Yeah. Yeah. OK, that's fucking wild as fuck. All right, let's get into it. So the opening ah the opening part I would say the film is kinda all over the place. So we're gonna be a little all over the place until we get to like part two, part three. Cause this film is broken up into parts as a documentary would be, I suppose. So there's seven to seven and a half, eight parts to this film. So the opening is not considered part one. It's just the opening of the film.
00:09:27
Speaker
And it's a video montage of this girl. child if She's a child in the video and her name is Cheryl Dempsey. And they're cutting back and forth between her videotapes and her funeral.
Analysis of Opening Scenes
00:09:40
Speaker
And then there's like people speaking about her. And then we just cut to a dude with a camera and night vision.
00:09:52
Speaker
but Like the camera has night vision on it. So it's like the greenish, you know black and white screen and He puts the camera down and he's in front of like a grave that's been dug up And you just see this body come flying out of the grave He's got a rope tied to his car just floors it his body comes flying out this grave This body comes whipping out and you're just like alright, this is interesting So then There's a lot of, there's a lot of different FBI, local law enforcement that like give testimonials or like speak to the camera directly. I tried to write all their names, but eventually you're just going to hear me say FBI agent. They all kind of go hand in hand with each other. Like there's really no differential. Right. I would say there's only one and well, to me there's two. All right. So then we start, we cut to black screen and it comes, it comes up part one, the tapes.
00:10:52
Speaker
So this lady who is an FBI agent, her name is Alice and a heart, uh, is standing in front of the house where they found the Poughkeepsie tapes. And they're like, this is where we found the Poughkeepsie tapes. And they kind of talk about it a little bit. And we cut to this dude. If this guy is a real person, I mean, I'm concerned for his wellbeing. His name is Simon Alray and he watched.
00:11:18
Speaker
2400 hours of the Poughkeepsie tapes, which you guys don't know what the Poughkeepsie tapes are but but once you come to find out What the hell is wrong with him? This guy definitely is gonna have some PTSD need some therapy and I know This is a fake documentary, but I did think the acting was pretty good here. Yeah for sure like he did seem completely unhinged and And he said in this part that his wife refused to even touch him for a year because she caught a random 30 minutes of the tapes. I'm blammer. So we cut we cut back to the the house and a different FBI agent named Pam, I didn't get her last name, is basically just pointing out we found bodies buried here, we found bodies buried there. And like I said, the first part's kind of all over the place, but then we cut to
00:12:13
Speaker
A different FBI agent, I think his name is Leonard Chway and he's kind of around the the rest of the, he was the older dude. With the glasses, right? Yeah. And he made an interesting point that even you said, when we watched, it was pretty interesting that there always is 25 to 50 serial killers active in the US at all times. And that's a real statistic. That's scary. That we're just not aware of. Yeah. So, cause like you were saying, everyone thinks like Bundy and, you know, Jack the Ripper, he didn't say Jack the Ripper, but I can't think anybody else. John Wayne Gacy. Yeah. So.
00:12:49
Speaker
But yeah, 25 to 50 serial killers are active all the time. Then it cuts to a random tape of a woman who is dressed, she's like wearing a bathing suit, basically her lingerie. What's the difference between like wearing a thong to the to like ah pool and wearing lingerie? We don't wear a thong to a pool. People do. Thongs, thongs.
00:13:18
Speaker
A thong is like it splits your cheeks, right? Yeah, kind of, but like there's different material between a bathing suit and a thong. Oh, so it's just a material? Essentially. All right. One's water absorbent, one's cum absorbent, I don't know.
00:13:34
Speaker
ah ah Okay, so this lady who's wearing, I guess, lingerie is given a balloon and our our killer who word we're not going to ruin it the way we did because we put on sub don't watch movie with subtitles it'll ruin ah massive part for you ah our killer we will not say his name, hands her a balloon, and he's behind the camera, and he's like, blow it up. So she blows it up. She's not scared at this point, for some reason. Later in the movie, we find out that he's killing hookers. Maybe she thought he just, like, this is what he was into. This is his kink. Yeah. Like, so he has her blow up the balloon, and then he's like, sit on it. And then she's sitting on it, and she's bouncing on it, like, riding a dick. Right. No. That way.
00:14:27
Speaker
No sugarcoating it. She is riding a dick balloon. She's riding a dick balloon. And then he goes, pop it. And she's like, huh? And he like yells like, pop it. Pop it. Polkadot is sponsor us. Bob is sponsor us. That's crazy. I have one still. If we had video, I'd bring it out. I bought it. I bought it ah way too far into adulthood. I would say I bought it in 2022. That's kind of crazy.
00:14:53
Speaker
Well, when you're drunk, it's pretty entertaining with friends, not by yourself. That's sad. Right. You're bopping it, twisting it. You could just do that to yourself. Well, you can only do it so many times in a day. You don't know me. No, I know my I know my own limits. Oh, OK. Yeah. All right. So that happens. It's a little weird. The video itself looks a little like cut out, like scratchy. What is it? Like staticky, staticky. Yeah, sure.
Exploring Killer's Encounters and Brutality
00:15:21
Speaker
We cut to part two now. Part two is called First Blood. Shout out Sylvester Stallone. Hey, Rambo. And then we meet an FBI profiler who their name is going to be FBI profiler because I didn't get their name. And but this is the older guy in the classroom.
00:15:41
Speaker
who is speaking about the case. And these testimonials are like in the same way a lot of the crime documentaries are. They're obviously all speaking about it after the fact. Right. So this this FBI profile is in a classroom with students showing them Poughkeepsie tapes. So everything, all the events you see in the movie, he's just, this has already happened. And he's warning them. He's like, what you're about to see is going to be intense. And if you can't handle it, he's like, I don't blame you. It's fine. You can leave.
00:16:10
Speaker
Yeah. And do you want to object yourself to this kind of brutal mental? I don't impact torture. your You're torturing yourself. Yeah. Yeah. So the first tape the FBI profiler shows them is the video of the killer in his car. And he's like stock, not stalking, but like just videotaping this girl who's sitting out in her yard playing with toys. And then he slowly gets out of the car. and He just walked up to her. And this is one of the most unhinged conversations for an adult to have with a child. God, it was so... I wanted to kill this guy. Because she's like, I'm not supposed to talk to strangers. She clearly was taught stranger danger, shout out her parents.
00:16:53
Speaker
Yeah. And then he's like, shout out to her parents who were not there to help her. So kind of fucked them. Right. Well, ah yeah that's a thing. Like who was letting like their six year old daughter sit in the yard by themselves and not like be looking at the window every five minutes because she's young. She's like six, seven years old. It's the nineties. I get it. It was probably a little different, but we're still getting into the modern era. Right. So she goes,
00:17:17
Speaker
I'm not supposed to talk to strangers. and He's like, that's a bad manners. And then I don't know how they get to this line, but the killer says, if I was the big bad wolf, there's nothing you could do about it, which is crazy. That's dark. And then he he's like, you want to say something for the camera? And she's like, no. And he's like, do you want to look through the camera? And she's still like, no. And he goes to show her and you think you're going to get a reveal of like the killer's face because the camera be pointing towards him.
00:17:47
Speaker
And then you just hear a thud. He smacks her in the head with the camera, I'm assuming. More than once, right? Yeah. Like knocking her unconscious and then drags her body to his car. Like he's running to his car, throws her in the back seat, drives off. Which we didn't say this yet. I feel like this movie had ah had its elements that inspired Long Legs for sure.
00:18:16
Speaker
Oh, big, big long legs vibes. i I'm really curious if Oz Perkins has ever seen this movie. Me too. Cause like the car is like the exact same car. Right. To like the T. They both did play, take place in the nineties, but. Approaching kids. I literally, we were watching this together. I literally said when he walked up to the girl, I forgot my long legs today. Yeah, that was, that was a good. So this girl is Jennifer Gorman, not Cheryl.
00:18:45
Speaker
From the beginning, we'll get to Cheryl. She has a whole thing. And then a police, a local police officer is describing that she blunt force trauma to the head and they show.
00:18:58
Speaker
They don't show you hear the mom's phone call to like the police that her child's missing. And they said, Oh, you know, we have to wait 24 hours. Now I get that if it's an adult, right? If it's an adult, you have to wait 24 hours because they can do whatever they want. But if it is a damn near kindergartner, there should be no necessary wait 24 hours. If your kid is missing, I want the cops at my door right this second.
00:19:29
Speaker
Which the mom is too the mom says, she's like, I know my kid's missing while you're not looking for her. The acting there was also pretty good. yeah And then they cut to the mom and the father ah giving a testimonial to the camera, because like it's a mockumentary. And you find out in this conversation that the girl was also raped, which is unfortunate. So this like kind of sets the tone for like how unhinged our killer is.
00:19:59
Speaker
And from there we cut to part three. Oh, and there was this weird thing where at the end of part two that the FBI agents were saying like, Oh, he's getting better. And he realizes he's, he's doing good. Like at killing. So we get to part three and part three is getting better. So we, uh, our killers behind the camera.
00:20:25
Speaker
And he asked a couple for a ride, Frank and Jeanette, Anderson, those are their names. So they pick them up, which by the way, just so we're on the same page, you or I would never just pick somebody up off the side of the road, right? No, I'm not picking up anybody off the side of the road and I'm never hitchhiking in general. That's crazy to me. Yeah, I'm not getting in the car with somebody. I'm not picking somebody up. Even like Uber and Lyft is a little sus.
00:20:49
Speaker
Right. Because you because you still hear stories. It's rare, but you still hear stories of shit like this happening to people or even like taxi cabs in New York City. Oh, never. Yeah. So he asked him for a ride. He gets in the car and he tells Frank and June to drop him off with this gas station that's around the corner. And they're talking. And just kind of out of nowhere,
00:21:14
Speaker
Also, you can kind of see there really isn't going to be a gas station there. Yeah. Or it's abandoned. Our killer waxed Frank in the head with something. I don't know what it was. And then he turns the camera to be facing Jeanette because Jeanette's in the dry ah the passenger seat and he's right behind her. And I guess he chloroforms her. Yeah, the detective said some sort of chemical.
00:21:41
Speaker
He was like some kind of chemical stuff, which was funny because it was just like, what? Like, obviously it's chloroform. Like, that's the go to. Yeah. If I'm serial killing, I'm using chloroform. Thank you for sharing. And y'all get chloroform, you know who it was.
00:21:58
Speaker
oh We cut to a garage of some sort and Jeanette is laying against like the garage door and she's asleep. And our killer's just like, wake up. He starts poking her with a stick. Yeah, he's like, wake up. Get up. Wake up. I'm garbage by the little makeup. And the camera slowly zooms out. And you catch a little peek. We had to rewind it because I was like, what what did I just miss? The subtitles were also blocking
00:22:36
Speaker
The central area you don't watch with subtitles no So we rewind it and then they end up showing you anyways like at the ah at the autopsy that he took Frank's head and Sowed it into her stomach or his face or his whole head. I think it's his whole ass head. His whole ass heads in there, right? Yeah. They show they showed the autopsy and they show her. They show the head sewed into her stomach, but she's like fried. She's like she was burned. Yeah, I don't like lit on fire. She looked like the the alien from alien rhymes that they fucking pulled in the beginning of the movie. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So the FBI agent just starts explaining how they're going to try to find the killer.
00:23:20
Speaker
And they know the road that the killer committed this murder on the couple, Frank and Jeanette were going from Pittsburgh to Poughkeepsie or vice versa, whichever way they were going. And there's only like three different routes to get there, which us being from Poughkeepsie kind of adds up. Yeah, pretty much. The map, the maps are right. So what they did, he's like, Oh, we know his car is only 150 to 200 miles, like per ride before you need more gas.
00:23:51
Speaker
So they just picked a gas station in the middle of the the middle of like the highway that they were on and went 200 miles in each direction. So they find a videotape at one of the at one of the gas stations of the killer and he's like just standing in front of the gas pump doing sign language. Yeah, which is weird. But then you come to find out the ah FBI deciphers the sign language and it comes out to the Red House.
The Water Street Butcher Emerges
00:24:27
Speaker
Which is where they found the Frank and Jeanette combo. Right. But then it goes to the FBI i agents again.
00:24:36
Speaker
And they said the crazy part about this is that video at the gas station was taken before he even got into Frank and Jeanette's car. So he knew he was going to do right. Yeah, it was premeditated.
00:24:52
Speaker
We then cut to, it's like a newspaper club, and ah this lady, Elizabeth Jackson, this poor woman. she And it cuts back and forth between the FBI, like describing what happened and like clips of the killer, her head and her hands were cut off. And then the rest of her body were placed in different places around the different like counties in the New York Poughkeepsie area. Right.
00:25:23
Speaker
and it's like you see you see the killer like kind of start to saw her head you see her just laying there with no head no hands it was fine it was like like all right this ain't that bad yet yet it gets dark and the one detective guy that watched all the tapes i'm pretty sure it was him Go ahead. He was going into a description about different types of saws. Oh, the, I think it's somebody else because under his name, it said dismemberment expert. Oh, okay. So when I said to you, I was like, imagine going on a date with a dismemberment expert. Like I'm not fucking going on a date with you. Right. So he's going, he has a bunch of saws on the table and he's saying most people will just stick to one saw. And then once they get a little better, they'll get like automatic saws.
00:26:14
Speaker
Yeah, like power saws. Power saws, chainsaws, and they said that's not his MO. He is sticking to the hand saws. Oh, I thought he said that he was going back and forth. Oh, yeah, you're you're right, you're right, you're right. Most people stick to one type of saw, but he was going back and forth to try and switch it up, keep the cops off his tail. Because this dismemberment expert was like, the power saw is the cleanest way to get it done, and he just does whatever he wants.
00:26:42
Speaker
I'm not going anywhere near this dismemberment expert. No. That is a disturbing job title. Him and the him in the video, dude, the guy that watches all the videos, both of them stay far away from me. Like, oh, he used this blade at this precise angle. Like, no, I don't I don't need you anywhere near me, dude. We get to part four and this is. Probably part four and part five.
00:27:12
Speaker
are for sure the most disturbing parts of this movie. Absolutely. Without a doubt, I was totally disturbed watching this. So part four is called Cheryl Dempsey. And what we forgot to mention towards the beginning was the video expert was like, there's like 2400 hours of tapes, but like the majority of it was spent on this one woman, Cheryl Dempsey. Like he just tortured this woman. So if you don't like torture, don't watch this movie.
00:27:38
Speaker
no No, please don't. So it's it starts with videos of him stalking her at school. And then he's listening to her phone call. And his phone call, Cheryl's talking to her friend, Jane Gerber. And she's like, I always feel like someone's watching me or something's about to happen, which is something super fucking weird. You've never had that feeling like you're being watched. No, no. Also, our boy Jake called me one time. It was like late.
00:28:08
Speaker
He was like, I feel like someone's watching me. And I was like, dude, no one's watching you. He's like, I feel like I'm gonna die. And I totally dismissed him. I was just like, I don't buy this at all. You probably shouldn't have. Like he could have gotten murdered. Well, this is barely at least a year ago now. So I don't feel bad. He's still here. He's still here. Yeah, but he's I've gotten I've been on the receiving end of people calling me being like, I feel like somebody's watching me. And you just dismiss all of them? Yeah, because here's the thing.
00:28:37
Speaker
How many, I don't know this, and you listen to a lot of true crime podcasts, maybe you do know, how many women out there are stalking and murdering men, or men are just stalking and murdering random other men? Like, what does Jake have going for him that that somebody would be like, all right, I'm gonna stalk and murder this guy? That's what I said to him. I was like, no one, you got nothing going for you that someone's like, I wanna murder that dude. I agree, but but a lot of serial killers just decide random people like that's it. Like if they if they if they see you and they like, oh, that's going to be an easy target. Jake would be an easy target. Right. Or maybe r jake or maybe their M.O. is killing ah tall, white, balding men. All right. So should the phone and then this was fucking wild.
00:29:35
Speaker
It cuts to him in her house. He walks through like the glass door in the back of the house. Why is that not locked? I'm telling you my parents the same way like I live like my parents are like in a cul-de-sac and like the Poughkeepsie area like cars unlocked garage open fucking doors unlocked. They don't give me like people who live in these like neighborhoods feel very safe. I don't know if you should be saying that.
00:30:03
Speaker
In the Poughkeepsie area, how many houses are in the Poughkeepsie area? Okay, that's fair. Then this scene I kinda didn't like, but I get why they did it. He walks into the kitchen and grabs a knife, but like shows the knife to the camera. Like we get it, dude. You're gonna kill somebody. You're a murderer. Yeah, but I think he's trying, like he's getting off to it. You think he watches these back? Oh, he for sure watches these back. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. And then he goes upstairs And Cheryl's in the shower and she's like her boyfriend's name is Tim. And she's like, Tim, is that you Tim? He doesn't answer. And then she kind of gives up. She's like, I probably just heard something. And he walks over and he grabs her panties, but he picks them up with like the tip of the knife. No fingerprints. He's such a genius. Such a G. But while he's grabbing the panties, he makes a noise. Yeah.
00:30:59
Speaker
And she's like, what the fuck? And then randomly, this seems kind of messy to me, but it's good. Tim shows up and he like pops his head in the doorway of her bedroom, which if you pop your head in the doorway of her bedroom, and you look straight to the left. You're seeing, you're going to see homeboy just standing there. Right. But for some reason he avoids being seen. I don't know where he went. I don't either. But, uh, so Tim walks up and he's like, Hey, can I get some food? And they're like talking about what to order.
00:31:29
Speaker
and then Tim leaves and Cheryl does not hear him leave. And the killer hands her the towel, which was like, that's fucked. Right. So then this part I was, this is pretty good. The killer walks out of the bathroom and sets the camera up on something. And I guess he hides it. I mean, cause nobody sees it. Yeah. He like places it on a shelf. But like,
00:31:56
Speaker
A camcorder in the 90s is like ah umy but it's ah yeah it's a bulky piece of equipment. Right. And we see where does he go? He goes in the closet. He goes into the closet and he's wearing a plague doctor mask. That's when they show they reveal that he's wearing the plague doctor mask. Yeah.
00:32:17
Speaker
Some of my notes are, Tim walks up, they're talking, and I just wrote, they fuck, he watches. Yeah, you can you can see like a little piece of the plague doctor mask in the crack of the closet door. And I found this very interesting being a true crime listener.
00:32:39
Speaker
This is very reminiscent of a true crime where BTK killer buying torture kill. He broke into this lady's house, sat in her closet for about two hours waiting for her to get home. And then when she got home, he came out of the closet and killed her. Tim and Cheryl are downstairs. So he's, it looks like he's going to leave, but I guess he was just looking for him. Right. He goes downstairs and Tim and Cheryl are asleep on the couch. This is not comfortable to do.
00:33:12
Speaker
No, two people, one couch. No, two guys, one screen. Yes. Follow. Good plug. They wake up. They get like, we should probably go upstairs and go to bed and they're walking and he the killer is just like right behind them. I don't know how they didn't notice. so Yeah, anything.
00:33:34
Speaker
The only thing I could think of is like when you're groggy, like you just wake up from being asleep. I mean, I don't even know where my dick is. It's just like you're you're on cloud nine. um So the killer kills Timmy stabs him just and it's like the initial the first blow was like a stab. Yeah.
00:33:56
Speaker
He chases Cheryl through the house, and he dr- this was a cool- this was actually- I loved how they filmed this. This is probably my favorite part of the movie, which is kinda fucked up, but- Yeah. The killer drops the- Camp quarter on the floor and you just see like their shadows because Cheryl trips and falls Classic and you just see him beat the shit out of her, but it's just the shadows He is like fucking the shit out of her head. Not actually not yet Then he goes he punches her in the head. She's unconscious and
00:34:34
Speaker
He goes back to Tim and it looked like he stepped on his neck, but we go on to hear through the local police, officer like what the police officers found afterwards, that he smushed his, like he crushed his skull. Like a grape, like a, great yeah, like a grape. And then it cuts too. So before the local police officer testimony, we hear from Jane Gerber, her friend, again, that she's like, Oh yeah, she told me the phone. She thought she was being watched.
00:35:00
Speaker
So you should feel bad. A little bit. And then we get this scene and this is crazy.
00:35:09
Speaker
Bonkers. We see a table and Cheryl is bonded. Like, uh, like, you know, when you wrap somebody in Red Dead Redemption, she got hogtied. You got hogtied. Yeah. That's the word I'm looking for. But
00:35:27
Speaker
Like it's wrapping around her face too. It's like, Oh yeah, she can't. Yeah. She can't move at all. Like she can't even move her head cause her legs and hands are tied, but then her neck is like pulled back as well. Yeah. You could carry her like a, like a suitcase or a brief. You could just pick up the rope. You're absolutely right. And we see the killer appear with his, uh, his plague doctor mask in full effect.
00:35:56
Speaker
And basically he makes her understand that her name is now slave. Cause he's like, your name is slave. And then he asked her what's her, what her name is. And she still says Cheryl. She punches the fuck out of her every time she says her real name. So eventually she caves and she goes, I'm, I'm a slave.
00:36:19
Speaker
And then we get to what I was mentioning before, the local police officer testimony. And this is, you really see how fucked this guy is. yeah So they say that he smushed his head and then they that he gutted him from his he the cop's anus, from his butthole like all the way up to his head, basically.
00:36:40
Speaker
and this was funny he cut off his cocking balls and threw it in the sock drawer just so random do you have a sock drawer i have a my sock and my underwear go together i agree shout out to pommy john sponsor us Oh, shout out me undies sponsor us either. Either of you guys, anybody sponsors this point, but yeah, my, my socks and underwear together. It's kind of a mess, but also you and I were talking with us. We also, I only wear dry fit Nike socks. Yeah. So I got like all black, a couple of white ones. And then I have, uh, my Tommy Johns and I have three pairs, I think of boxers. Cause I like to sleep with my shit dangling. Oh.
00:37:29
Speaker
Gotta go max comfort, right? Yeah, I can't sleep naked. That's too crazy for me. Yeah, I don't like that either. Boxers are cool. So then there's this part, which I don't know if I buy this, maybe this is, if we have anybody out there that's like a psychology major and can confirm this, let us know. But the FBI profiler is talking about how when you wear a mask, it like takes away, you don't associate with what you're doing with your actions. I guess for like the mentally insane people. But they're saying he's wearing this mask because he's like disassociating from who he is.
00:38:08
Speaker
I find that to be bullshit. Do you? You are who you are. I'm going to change that. Yeah. You think you're, it's like an escape to like bring common sense into what you're doing. Is that what they're saying?
00:38:23
Speaker
or take away common sense. Okay. To take away the right and wrong of it. yeah He's like, they didn't say DID the what dissociative ah identity a disorder, but that's kind of what they're all lowering to a little bit. Like the mask is a different identity for him. I could see that. Still fucked up nonetheless. Nope.
00:38:48
Speaker
then we get back to Cheryl this time she's chained just in a room in a basement I'd imagine and
00:39:01
Speaker
The killer tells Cheryl that he killed her old family. And then there's this really disturbing sequence of like, admit that you're happy I killed your parents. Admit that you're happy that like you're my slave and that I'm your master. And then he brings her over to, cause she won't say it. So he brings her over to like a sink.
00:39:29
Speaker
a pretty deep sink, like a kitchen sink. It's like a, I think they call it a slop sink. All right. Like in a basement, it's a slop sink, right? Right. Kind of sloppy putting in there. You want to know. So he puts, he puts this, her, he just like keeps dunking her in this slop sink until she admits it. This was by far for me, the most disturbing part of the movie. Okay. Specifically.
00:39:55
Speaker
And then we cut to a news report saying that Cheryl's missing. And the mom is on the news, like asking for the killer to, you know, like go for daughter. And then after this, you see like like the killer walks up to her with the camera. This is so ballsy, bro. I loved this though. And he's like, let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
00:40:23
Speaker
And then you kind of see the mom realize because he starts because the killer starts laughing. You see the mom kind of realize that it's him. She's like, Oh God. And she's like, I was scared. I didn't do anything. Tell the cops at least.
00:40:39
Speaker
She did nothing, nothing. Dumb bitch. Just parallel with fear. We cut to Cheryl again being tortured.
00:40:51
Speaker
and she's chained and this time has a gag in her mouth and the killer offers her a deal. a deal yeah if you I'll take the gag out of your mouth if you wear this and it's like a like a dress basically but like a slutty dress. So dress ends up being put on and
00:41:14
Speaker
Oh, they gave you kind of a timeline. The year is now like 1993 and all the police are saying like, oh, yeah, like this dude is like hot. Like the media is going crazy over over this guy. And he's very well known, like notorious. And one of the FBI agents was like, oh, if you if a killer is like getting too much press, he'll either leave and he said stop shopping the area, like killing people as they're shopping. I mean, hey, that's like his pastime, right? That's what he enjoys.
00:41:43
Speaker
So they're like, yeah, develop point. They're like, yeah, he'll leave or just stop killing. And this guy just changed his M.O., which I guess through them for a complete loop. Yeah, like most killers don't do that. It's very rare. So from there, we get to part five, which is called a new M.O.
Jim Foley's Execution and System Failure
00:42:08
Speaker
And this is where he gets the name, the Water Street Butcher.
00:42:14
Speaker
Shadow Water Street. Do you want? OK, sure. Shadow Water Street. It's in Poughkeepsie. So he gets the name Water Street Butcher. Yeah. like And he's just murdering hookers. You just see random photographs of like dead hookers, like in a field. Yeah. And the M.O. is that he's slicing their. Like from their lip to like their ear, like the Joker almost, but only on one side. Right. And then we cut to this this is pretty good.
00:42:44
Speaker
The killer gives Cheryl a mask to put over her face. Really, really creepy mask. I didn't like it at all. No. And then she's like standing somewhere and the killer is brought in a hooker that he's probably going to kill. And the hooker is begging Cheryl to help her. And she's like, no, he'll be mad. Like he'll be very angry if I help you. I can't do that. She's completely brainwashed at this point. Oh yeah, completely.
00:43:12
Speaker
And for some reason, even though she doesn't help her and it's on video that she didn't help her, the killer is like, I'm going to punish you. And he walks over and he gives her a knife and he makes her slit the hooker's throat. Right. From there, they did start describing his, um which I just told you guys, he likes to slice them from their mouth to their ear and fuck them.
00:43:33
Speaker
When they're dead post-mortem, which we find out because it's random FBI agents. like Yeah. I went to go talk to this guy. I put away for a crime 10 years ago to get some advice. Very signs of the lamb's esque. And this criminal in like the interrogation room is being like, yeah, you know, like you can, you can fuck bodies like long after they're dead. He's like roaches, maggots, whatever turns them on. I don't like that guy either. Which, well, that's why he's in prison.
00:44:05
Speaker
And this is, the light bulb did not go off for us, but you connect the dots later. But this is like, this should have been like the aha moment, but it doesn't go off for us. Right. So they're like, yeah, he loves to kill him and fuck him again. And then we get the Girl Scouts. This scene is just disturbing. No. So these two Girl Scouts are very young knock on his door. And they' like, yeah, we're selling cookies and he asked me to he asked him to come in and like, yeah, we can't come in, which is good. And he was getting a policeman like, all right, we'll get it.
00:44:42
Speaker
Like, can I see ID like they're young? They don't fucking know. You sure? I i don't know. I'm just trying to excuse it. So the movie's not bad. Oh, OK. Tells me he's a policeman. They walk in, he gives him two cokes and you can hear women like crying like further away. Crying, screaming, everything. And then he's like, oh, don't mind that I have raccoons in my basement. It's like, do you want to you want to go see the raccoons?
00:45:11
Speaker
And I don't know why he changes his mind, but he's like, yeah, you have to buy cookies another day. And he lets them go. And then the the camera kind of just turns to the floor and Cheryl's been laying there the entire time. Right. She's like she's almost with the mask on. She's kind of. Imposed like she's a coffee table. It had the whole.
00:45:39
Speaker
John John.
00:45:42
Speaker
What do you call those? Tablecloth. Oh, there's a tablecloth on her. Yeah. So I was going to ask you, like, why were the girls not disturbed that they she was just sitting there like that? Yeah. So she's posed like a coffee table and she has the tablecloth over her. That was freaky. And then she's like laying down and has a mirror and you see her face through the.
00:46:06
Speaker
The mirror. Yeah, the camera is shooting into the mirror and you see your face. And then she keeps saying that. What's that phrase she kept saying? Like, I'm your master or you're my master. Some, some, some. You're my master on your sleeve. Don't like that.
00:46:20
Speaker
They and then this is kind of. Kind of where it goes downhill a little bit. I think they bring it back by the end, but this whole part was weird. Sure. They find DNA of.
00:46:37
Speaker
on an unwashed glass of water with fingerprints and saliva, and it belongs to a cop whose name is Jim Foley. so we had subtitles on which kind of ruined this part for us i could see this being good good if we didn't have the subtitles to spoil minus this other part so oh yeah they're completely out of pocket basically they prosecute them and they're like yeah you did all this shit you're done you're cuz the semen matches his too right which
00:47:11
Speaker
yeah so he's set to be executed and they wheel him in and you hear like the guy announcing like each phase he has nothing to say doesn't want a last meal doesn't want to say a prayer god's dead right you can get framed like that right so then like while he's on the table it cuts to like all the different kills that they don't show you initially like a woman being suffocated like black christmas yep a bunch of different ones, a woman like just looking in fear and they kill him and they show you I think it's a newspaper clipping that he dies or it just pops up like print on the TV screen that he died September 9th 2001 which is like what the fuck so it gets even weirder from there
00:48:05
Speaker
It cuts to Cheryl who's still captured and she's watching the news. Yeah, they're at a bar. Are they? Did you catch that? Oh, I thought they were just sitting in the basement still. No, they're out in public. They're in a bar. Oh, I didn't notice that. Yeah. But basically he, she's watching this like, yeah, that motherfucker didn't do the murders. I'm still getting fucked over here. He's like getting off to the fact that he's out in public watching the interview about the guy that he framed.
00:48:38
Speaker
so I don't think I wrote this down but the big part here is like they caught him and for some reason in this fictional story they made 9-11 happen two days later so 9-11 happened and this guy's like yeah that story got bumped to page six because 9-11 happened Like, yeah, I got bumped to page six. Right. I don't know if you know, ah you know, 9-11 is kind of a big fucking deal. What do you think the move was here to put this on 9-11? I don't get I don't get this. It seemed like a very phony way of getting him to kill longer. I mean, I get I do believe the killer is savvy enough to
00:49:25
Speaker
He didn't know 9-11 was gonna happen, though. No, I'm saying he's smart enough to frame somebody. Oh, he's smart enough to frame somebody, sure. I buy that he pulled that off. but I don't get the 9-11 thing. it is this It loses me completely here. I don't get this at all. I think it was because they wanted the killer, like the cop's execution. Yeah. They wanted it to be out of the headlines for him to keep killing so you completely forget oh we caught that guy and we killed him you know what i mean that's probably their thinking but my problem is as soon as he kills somebody else it's like oh he's back we didn't get the right guy so we get we cut to the killer again in a a cop car
00:50:14
Speaker
Yeah, which he pulls over. You don't know he's in a cop car yet, but he pulls over to the side of the road and his woman's car is broken down and she's like, oh, thanks, officer. I could use some help. So he picks her up and she sits in the back, which he just lies to these people and they just buy at face value. So she gets in the car and there's this pretty terrifying drive from wherever they were to wherever he murders her because he's like, why do you assume I'm an officer?
00:50:43
Speaker
And she's like, this isn't funny. She's like, and he's like, I'm not an officer. And then he uses that assumptions, make an ass of you and me phrase cringe, but you shouldn't get into a car with strangers. He tells her that, which, Hey, he knows what's good. Yeah. It's just funny. The manners thing. Cause like the manners in the beginning with that little kid, uh, Jennifer Gorman of like, I shouldn't talk to strangers. And then, yeah, yeah the whole thing is full circle, full circle.
00:51:12
Speaker
And then he goes, all right, I'll make you a deal. He's like, I'll be on. He's like, I'll be perfectly honest. He's like, I'm going to rape you. Yeah. We're going to pull over. I'm going to rape you. I'm going to let you go. So if you let me rape you, I'll let you go. And she's like, yeah, sure. And she's like, you really thought I'd fucking fall for that. Right. Because when he pulls over, she's trying to like grab at the doors and he's like, you really thought I'd have the handles in the doors. Yeah.
00:51:37
Speaker
So this scene was pretty menacing, where he just gets up and like goes to take a piss, and you just hear her screaming. Just like, help me. He's just taking a piss. And then it cuts to probably his like, they called it a sex dungeon. But wherever this was, this was creepy. It's not a split diopter, but it almost is. Where her face is against the pole, and her mouth is taped, but her nose is free.
00:52:07
Speaker
And he walks in, not even walks. Like crawls? And he's wearing two masks. He has a mask on the top of his head, and then the plague doctor mask against his face. So when he's walking on all fours, it looks like he's looking up, but it's the other mask. Yeah, the mask that's on top of his head. Remember the Jabba Walkies? Oh, yeah, definitely Jabba Walkie vibes. Exactly what it was.
00:52:30
Speaker
He walks over to her, and he has these... I said Freddy Krueger in the moment, but they really weren't. Well, there is a scene in one of the Nightmare on Elm Streets where he has syringes as fingers. Were they syringes, though? I think so. Aren't they? I don't know what it was. Maybe. We can say they're syringes. I don't really care that much. Sounds better. But he sticks two syringes in her neck. And this was like...
00:52:55
Speaker
Whatever, whatever he hit, there's just blood coming up from her mouth. Yeah, with the tape. So it's like kind of coming out kind of not. I don't know how they, I don't know how they shot this though. Cause it's all one take. It's really good. It's really well done. Whatever they did was phenomenal. Phenomenal.
00:53:14
Speaker
Then it cuts to the police again and they're like, we really have no idea this guy. And he, the guy, the FBI or police officer is reading descriptions on this dude and they're all the opposite of each other. And it's like, you know, he's worked in law enforcement or he's never went to school or he's very organized and neat or he's a sloppy mess. It's just like, they're all he's just listening. Yeah. He's just listing all the stereotypes of serial killers. Like they don't know what this guy is. Yeah. He's just a contradiction completely.
00:53:45
Speaker
We cut to part seven, and I didn't like this. MapQuest found the house. But the key here is they just found the house. They did not find the killer. Right. that So they do like a whole police raid. Did we cover this properly? ah At some point,
00:54:12
Speaker
He kills, maybe it's after he kills that woman after the mass scene that they're like, oh, he's not the murder. He's not the killer. The guy, the police are like the guy we arrested and murdered is not the murderer. Oh, yeah. We never actually said that. But anyways, it was a setup. He got set up and they figure out, oh, we killed the wrong dude. And the wife's like, yeah, you fucking great job. Yeah. Big bad police officers can't do their fucking job.
00:54:40
Speaker
So the MapQuest scene starts part seven and part seven is called Found. And this was funny as hell. The camera guy from the police department and it was Sean. ah colli And the police, the police officer is like right next to him. He's like, Sean, get this. He's like, Sean, what are you doing? Put the camera down here. yeah He's like, Sean, shoot this, shoot this. He's like, it's like a funny bit of like, Sean just can't fucking could do your fucking job, Sean. Job. They find all the tapes. Well, they find you find out later, they found part of the tapes. And in one of the rooms, there's this coffin wooden coffin.
00:55:15
Speaker
and it's Cheryl's inside with the mask on. She's alive. She's been in there.
00:55:23
Speaker
Probably like a week. You think? can she Can you survive a week without food or water? No, you need at least water. At least water? All right, we'll give her three days. but She's probably almost dead. Yeah. So then we meet this physician who describes how brutally damaged and tortured she was. ah You know, cut, burned, teeth ripped out. she got He said electrocuted and her genitals.
00:55:54
Speaker
And then did you catch this? like I guess what they're saying was she got used to so much pain in her life that she was actually inflicting torture onto herself. Yeah. It's some of these pictures of like her arms and legs are pretty nasty. Yeah, it was pretty good gore. like She just has chunks of flesh missing. Right. So then it cuts to like the they're like, we finally got an interview with Cheryl.
Cheryl's Tragic End and Final Thoughts
00:56:22
Speaker
And this interview was hard. ah Hard to watch. Because she's so used to like being this dude's master, or being this dude's slave, and like she does whatever he says, like, i'm your I'm your slave, I'm your slave. We haven't emphasized that enough. like Every scene that she's in with this guy, she's like, I'm your slave. And you know the guy, the interviewer's like, how does it feel to be home? And she's like, what am I supposed to say?
00:56:48
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know what you want me to say. She kind of just freaks out and like has a panic attack because she has no idea what she's supposed to say because she's so used to being told. Every single question is, I don't know what you want me to say. She's like, I can't do this anymore. And then I think she goes up like it your head, but we see she has no hand. No hand. She lost her hand. Big nub. Big nub. My nickname in high school.
00:57:10
Speaker
yeah
00:57:13
Speaker
So then it comes out that she loved her, loved him and he loved her. What is that? Is that like the Florence Nightingale? That's not Florence Nightingale. Which one does that call when you fall in love with like the guy who's like fucking captured you? I know what you're saying though. Yeah. It's a real disorder. Yeah. So she's in love with him and she's like, he's going to come save me one day. He doesn't give a fuck about you. Well, that's not true. Well,
00:57:41
Speaker
Because of the end. Yeah, so At this point It says that Cheryl committed suicide and I looked at you and I was like, I don't blame her cuz how do you live your life? After dealing with something like that. I don't know So then if you guys haven't pieced it together yet her dead body was the dead body that the killer towed out of The grave it was her who was Cheryl Right. So he's presumably taking her body to continue fucking her. Yeah. Straight up. And also, I don't think the film does a good job but of this until the interview that she was stuck with him for years. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because one of the interview questions was like, how does it feel to how was it living with that man for years? And it's like, I don't know if I don't know if ah like they made a good job of you know making that point. Right.
00:58:40
Speaker
So then it cuts to the goddamn weirder that watched all the Poughkeepsie tapes and he's like, oh, there's all these videos still missing. He's like, I wonder what we're on them. It's like, why do you wonder? You've seen enough. Yeah. You know, she's dead. You know, her body is missing by now. Like you don't need to know what was on those tapes. so And also the killer is still large. We never get caught. Never. And we've been saying this the entire in the film basically ends there. But we've been saying this the whole time. Do not watch subtitles because the the plot twist of like the cop was not the murderer doesn't happen because they named the killer ah subtitles give the name yeah name the killer ed so you fucking know the guy the cop jim foley was not the murderer right i don't know why shout factory scream factory would put the subtitles like that because this guy jim foley you never hear about the entire film
00:59:34
Speaker
Right. He's just random randomly shows up. Just a random dude, him in nine 11 randomly show up jump scare. I'd imagine nine 11 was a jump scare. Wasn't it? Oh yeah. we Forget. All right. So I only have like three questions for you. Now that we've reviewed this movie, give them to me how much, cause I went in completely blind. How much did you know about this movie before you watched it? I saw the scene where he's crawling and injects her neck.
01:00:02
Speaker
Okay. I saw that on YouTube, like back in the day. So you had a gauge that it was like more or less a torture movie? Yeah, but that's all I knew. That one scene. But I, I saw that in, I want to say like probably fifth grade. I saw that scene. It's a great, great age to see that. Oh yeah. So I honestly thought it was real. I thought it was real for a long time too.
01:00:28
Speaker
Right, like I thought this movie was straight up like you're watching people like a real person get murdered. Yeah. So I was very scared to watch it until now. Yeah, I mean, it's the we didn't mention this because I didn't write in the notes, but they often show like just clips of Poughkeepsie.
01:00:48
Speaker
Right. Like overhead drone shots. I know that place. Oh, that they show my college. Yeah. But like they like it's just really disturbing because like it really hits way too close to home. Way too close. You're like, Oh, I know that street. Yeah. Yeah. It's like fuck dude. Um, and then other question for you. What is the rewatch ability on this? Oh man. Unless you're showing it to somebody who's never seen it.
01:01:14
Speaker
I probably won't watch it. Yeah, I don't think I'll ever go out of my way to rewatch this, just on my own, like for fun. Right, unless I'm like, yo, you guys wanna watch something fucked up? I got you. It's like, oh, you think you've seen fucked up movies? Watch this. Well, I got you. I'd probably just show it to people who we lived in Poughkeepsie with. That'd be fucked up. but Just like, hey, you ever seen this? How much real?
01:01:38
Speaker
hu We all thought it was real anyways. That's true. And then I don't have like a list of movies to recommend if you like if you
Rewatchability and Film Recommendations
01:01:48
Speaker
like this. But obviously I think the clearest one to me is like Blair Witch. Feels like big Blair Witch vibes to me. Yeah, because it's like found footage. Yeah. Henry Portrait of a serial killer. We're like going to recommend that every fucking week, I think. That's just a great movie. Go watch that movie. Yeah. And I had another one.
01:02:11
Speaker
You said it's a lot worse. and it kind The body horror kind of is, but this one feels more frightening to me because it feels more real. But like Martyrs, I would never recommend Martyrs to anybody, but it is in the same vein. The fucked up thing about Martyrs is it is an amazing movie, but it is a hard, hard watch.
01:02:32
Speaker
Cause it's just like, it kind of, what I like about Poughkeepsie tapes is it keeps its focus throughout the whole thing, like via the mockumentary style and Martyrs for me, it just kind of feels like they're just doing the same thing over and over again. I could see that. And then it's just like, all right, like where's this movie going? And then they beat the shit of that poor girl enough where it's like, all right, this is where we were going with it. Yeah, I could see it. I guess, and then I guess the Saw franchise.
01:03:00
Speaker
I don't think the soft franchise is... Well, I guess getting kidnapped and tortured is kind of, uh, the soft franchise. But we were talking about this off-pod yesterday. The only ones we recognize are 1, 2, 3, and X. That's true. Those are the only good ones. But there are, like, some gnarly kills through the rest of the franchise. Just the storyline sucks ass. That's all I'm watching them for. Yeah. After three. Where you at on a letterbox rating? So... Yeah, it has a generally negative...
01:03:30
Speaker
Well, it's like in the middle on Letterbox, I think it's what, 2.9? 2.7? This is another 2007 film, by the way. We're just cranking them out, man. 2007. I am giving this movie four stars. I am also doing a four out of five, yeah. I think this is solid. This is a, I'm so happy I watched this, finally. Yeah, because you have a Shrouder Scream Factor release. Scream Factor, he put it out. Before they did that, it wasn't on physical media.
01:03:58
Speaker
It didn't even get like a DVD release or anything. It was in the theaters for that little amount of time taken away. Not banned, but it was just vi gone. Yeah, I think that's a podcast.
01:04:10
Speaker
Yeah. Again, we can plug our social media. Send us an email. yeah Send us an email to guys one screen pod at Gmail dot com. Follow us on Instagram to guys one screen pod. And then we'll plug the October's coming. This might come out. Who knows when, but October is coming as of this episode, as of this recording.
01:04:38
Speaker
Spooky season is almost among us, guys. Dude, we are going to go. We're going to be giving you guys two episodes a week. We have a horror bracket that's either live by this point or will be live very soon. That'll be exciting. We're going to cover 10 horror movies throughout the month of October. So get ready for that. And I know the majority of the movies that we have been covering on this pod have been horror movies. I just want to let you guys know this is not a strictly horror podcast.
01:05:07
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However, we have a lot of interesting movies to watch that just happen to be horror. Also, just like the docket for movies coming out the rest of this year kind of fall in the horror vein. Right. It's that time of year. Yeah. Like we didn't do we didn't have the podcast when like Planet of the Apes came out or Dipo versus Wolverine. Right. Or any of those. And then honestly, yeah. So anyways, like Gerald said, follow us and we will see you next week.
01:05:37
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Toodles. Toodles.