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The Secret to a Limber, Pain-Free Body | Antony Sammeroff

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In this episode, we're joined by Antony Sammeroff—author, podcaster, psychotherapist, and expert in bodywork. Antony is the author of Big Pharma: Guess It Quacks Like a Duck and the host of the Be Yourself and Love It podcast. While he has a background in counseling, his current focus is on bodywork, helping people release deep-seated tension to improve overall well-being.

Join us as we explore how tension in the hands and feet can be the root cause of structural pain and dysfunction. Antony shares practical techniques for self-release, explaining why traditional treatments like chiropractic adjustments and massage therapy may not always provide lasting relief. Tune in to learn how addressing these overlooked areas can transform the way you feel—enhancing mobility, reducing pain, and improving overall physical health.

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Website: https://beyourselfandloveit.com/

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Introduction and Guest Introduction

00:00:02
Speaker
Hey, it's Christian Yordanoff. Thank you for tuning back into the show. Today we have an awesome guest. His name is Anthony Samaroff. We met a few weeks ago at this point in Mexico and we hit it off with Anthony, really cool guy.
00:00:18
Speaker
He's ah an author. He's written a book or he's written a few books, but his latest one is called Big Pharma. Guess it quacks like a duck. Guess what that's about? He's the host of the Be Yourself and Love It podcast. And also his website is Be Yourself and Love It.
00:00:32
Speaker
So really interesting guests and topics on his podcast.

Exploring Bodywork and Tension Release

00:00:36
Speaker
Check that out whenever you have time. He is also a psychotherapist and counselor and still works that an area but in that area. But his main current vocation is he is a body worker.
00:00:49
Speaker
And I experienced the body work modality that he currently practices. in Mexico a few weeks ago, and it was pretty profound, I have to say. But what you're going to learn today is how to actually begin applying this to yourself, because it's at the give away some of the what we discussed really, but it's important to understand is that a lot of problems in terms of the body structure pain dysfunction starts with tension in the hands and the feet so you're going to learn practical ways to begin releasing some of that tension in your hands and your feet and that generally is going to have very good effects on the rest of your body actually i've been doing it myself over the last couple of weeks and i feel pretty
00:01:41
Speaker
Amazing, I have to say, like pretty pain free all over, which at my age is it's and the amount of sitting I do with the computer is really not it's not a common occurrence to be like completely pain free and comfortable and just feeling limber.
00:01:56
Speaker
And i've I've not really done too much exercise in the last, I guess, month because of all the traveling to Mexico and back and then recovering from that trip. And now it's been raining here for like ah five weeks or whatever.
00:02:09
Speaker
And I've not done really any tennis or paddle or stuff like that. So I've not had a lot of time to even do even just basic stretching and and mobility and and foam rolling and stuff. But just doing this stuff.
00:02:23
Speaker
for a few minutes every couple of days in terms of that releasing these points of pressure or tension, I should say, in the in the hands and the fingers and then working on the soles of the feet has been three pretty nice.
00:02:39
Speaker
it's kind of It's almost mind-boggling how points of tension on the sole of the foot when released, when sort of worked through that tenderness and pain that is associated with initially working at that point, um how maybe it's not instant, but that day or the next day, you just feel like there's less tension up and down.
00:03:03
Speaker
the the For me, definitely on the back, so the posterior chain, I feel a lot less tension in terms of my lower back, my hamstrings, which used to be tight for for so many years from all the sitting at the computer.
00:03:16
Speaker
They feel better. My neck is really better. um And he i have to say, he only ah Anthony only did a two hour session just mainly on my right arm and a little bit on the kind of on the neck area.
00:03:29
Speaker
So just one arm. getting released these ah ah couple of dozen places in terms of tension, it's still with me, this improvement, right? So this is this is what he talks about on the show is you can go to the chiropractor, get adjusted, and can go you can go to various massage therapists and stuff like that. But for many people, those benefits don't stick. They don't last long because of this innate tension that is, again, the way he explains that it's caused by the
00:04:01
Speaker
the tension in the hands and the feet. So if you can get that tension released, all those other modalities are going to be much more effective, beneficial, and the results are likely to last

European Travels and Health Journeys

00:04:14
Speaker
longer. So really interesting stuff.
00:04:16
Speaker
I'm really looking forward to have Anthony and his girlfriend. She's also into this stuff. So I'm really looking forward to having them over and for them to do some work on myself and my wife.
00:04:29
Speaker
So yeah. really cannot wait to be to be perfectly honest so I hope you enjoy this episode I hope you learn some good stuff and without further further ado here is Anthony Samara so when are you coming back to Europe I've not got specific dates yet but it shouldn't be too long from now nice you're gonna visit me in Portugal right I would really like to do that.
00:04:58
Speaker
Um, I've thought of going to Portugal. Well, I've been to Portugal twice actually. m for one of those juice cleanse retreats that seem to be, there seems to be a few venues for that over there. And I got to check out, yeah, got to check out Lisbon.
00:05:16
Speaker
It was good because back then I had eczema and I got to see that if you do a juice cleanse, youre so the first time my symptoms went away completely, the second time they were juiced a lot, but it didn't clear me up.
00:05:29
Speaker
So I got to see that these things are possible yeah early on. When was that? um like five years ago, six years ago. so what are your what was your journey like with, I know you were telling me you were kind of having all these autoimmune type issues, eczema. What was that like? When did that start?
00:05:49
Speaker
Yeah, so I had a lot of that when I was at school. And, you know, they gave me the creams. They didn't even know back then. ah Do doctors know today? I don't know because say I can't remember the last time I went to a mainstream doctor for an indication.
00:06:04
Speaker
that diet had anything to do with conditions like eczema, no one would say, oh, you better go on a elimination diet and cut out gluten and dairy.
00:06:17
Speaker
and With that, you know, comes dry skin. if you've got ah If you've got dry skin, m you can actually think about the alimentary canal, which goes from your mouth to your butt, as like the outside body in a set of your body, in a sense, in the same way that a cave going through ah a mountain is not the mountain you know if your if your skin's dry that that means that your digestive system's dry and and the the villi are supposed to make like this left right left right if if old hard sticky material gets um stuck between them then you're constantly reabsorbing poison and you you can't um
00:07:01
Speaker
taken nutrients. So yeah um these kind of digestive issues or digestion is linked to skin, skin is linked to digestion. um i guess that gave me some kind of idea that I never knew that was going to be in the the let's say holistic health world. I don't want say alternative because it's not alternative. m But all of these, all the fingerprints were all over everything because when I was in my early twenties, I went to a Chinese medicine doctor on the Isle of Wight and I described all these symptoms, you know, blotching in the skin, eczema, and mucus. ah
00:07:40
Speaker
I had fungal forms in my toes and they were like, he was like, oh, that'll all be your digestion. yeah and he And he gave me some probiotics and various things. Again, from my perspective now, his view was quite and was also quite limited compared to what I know now But showed me that you know there was an alternative approach and has Potions did actually give me, did make everything clear up for a while.
00:08:14
Speaker
So that kind of put me on to the, that and another, you know, with this blotching on the skin, and My doctor would be like, I remember I asked, he gave me some cream that went away.
00:08:27
Speaker
ah came back. I asked him why. And he kind of shrugged and he was like, per m he was kind of like, poor luck. And then he he paused for a second and he went, poor care.
00:08:39
Speaker
And I really wish that I said... yeah kirk Yeah, i I wish I'd said, so what exactly do you mean by poor care? Like, what have I done not to take care of it properly that could lead to Because it's such a passive aggressive comment.
00:08:54
Speaker
He was suggesting something without saying anything. And obviously it's because he doesn't have a clue. about how the system works as a whole and and what the cause and effect of these kinds of indications are. So that helped me see.
00:09:10
Speaker
Also, you know, I was suffering from depression. ah no Nowadays, we know that those are not two diseases. You know, the fact that was having severe digestive issues and skin issues and that I was depressed were not two different diseases.

Psychotherapy to Bodywork Transition

00:09:24
Speaker
Those were two symptoms of the same disease, which is, and you know,
00:09:28
Speaker
You know, it was all it was all one disease. ah You're going to get depressed if you're not and properly taking in nutrients and you're not digesting your food properly, if you've not got the right bacteria in your gut.
00:09:40
Speaker
So I remember I said that the doctor suggested putting me on antidepressants and I said, all right, well, I mean, just let me look them up online and... and and and find out a bit of information and then I'll then i'll get back to you.
00:09:55
Speaker
And I thought he'd be pleased, but he went, okay then, doctor. i had the naive thought that he'd be like, oh, that's really good that he's taking an interest in his and in his health, but he obviously didn't like that I just said yes. So these kinds of things put me on the on the line to being skeptical about.
00:10:17
Speaker
pharmaceutical medicine or or the mainstream approach to healthcare and I started reading books, I can actually eat dairy and and wheat without getting eczema now.
00:10:28
Speaker
So that shows that food intolerances are reversible. In fact, when I when when this happened when the change happened like i went on a like wheat and dairy binge to check you know to see if i could overload myself and if i'd get eczema if i had too much and i didn't get eczema so even though i'm not really sure those foods are optimal it's nice to be it's not it's nice to be able to enjoy them from time to time if you want to it's horrible thinking
00:11:01
Speaker
oh it's so unfair everyone else can have a cheese sandwich but i'm not allowed to you know what's wrong with me you know it's not fair you know so that that's the physical yeah the physical digestive health aspect of it so and you're also a uh so you studied psychotherapy right Yeah, and i when i was when i I became a self-help junkie in my 20s, in part due to the depression and anxiety. I was like, you know, reading all the books and I went to retreats and counsellings and results were more quite modest, to be honest. I didn't get a lot better.
00:11:42
Speaker
But by the time I was kind of coming to the end of my undergraduate degree, I'd started running little workshops on communication skills and I was facilitating people. I read a book called, um Nonviolent Communication, really amazing book for helping with relationships.
00:11:58
Speaker
And I started practicing the exercises in that book. especially the listening exercises, how to listen and help people feel understood. So I was coming to the end of my degree and I was thinking, what am i going to do next?
00:12:13
Speaker
And there's two things I liked. One was writing plays and one was this, helping people. So I thought to myself, you know, I'd love to be a playwright, but I need to drag myself kicking and screaming by the hair.
00:12:28
Speaker
I had long hair back then. and I had to really drag myself to finish any of my plays. so And I thought, you know what, if you're going to be really good at this, you're going to need to write like 40. And out of the 40, right, maybe 10 of them will be good. And then you'll start writing really good stuff.
00:12:46
Speaker
And that's just never going to happen. I'm too slow. so i went So I decided to do my postgraduate and counselling studies at Edinburgh University. And, you know, I was listening to a lot of YouTube in those days. And I kind of fell in love with the idea of being an online...
00:13:03
Speaker
personality and coach and counselor and, and you know, i thought that i thought that sounded like a really glamorous lifestyle at that age. And so I've done that online for about 12 years and I still do c therapy clients, just not as many as i did before I started doing the bodywork.
00:13:28
Speaker
Yeah, And so when did you transition into the bodywork stuff? Last year. it Yeah, I mean, i had... um but But the thing is, here we go, talking about the journey.
00:13:42
Speaker
I mean, i have... where Where does it start? Because...
00:13:48
Speaker
I went to the chiropractor in my 20s and he told me my shoulders were too far forward and he kind of clicked me. But, you know, I didn't get that much out of it. In my early 30s, I was sick and tired of being anxious and I so went to yoga retreat in India.
00:14:03
Speaker
I've seen craniosacral therapists, Thai masseuses. I never thought I was going to be a body worker. But each of these people, the physios that I saw in India, the osteopaths,
00:14:14
Speaker
and they all taught me something about my body, which I have then been able to notice in other people's bodies. So in some sense,
00:14:29
Speaker
it's like following the breadcrumbs that were laid out to you yeah by yeah you know, like like the the fingerprints that this that I was suited to this kind of work have been there the whole time.
00:14:41
Speaker
ah just needed to do the... 12 years of working as a counselor, i guess, psychotherapist, that informs everything I do. Do you know what i mean? It's like what you do shapes your personality.
00:14:55
Speaker
So it just gives me a ah different... everything I've done has been based on what I've needed myself. Do you know what I mean? All of that and body work that I tried, it helped me a little bit, but it didn't fix me.
00:15:10
Speaker
Then whenever I found a solution, I was like, oh my God, like this is the thing. You know, if you meet someone like my, my teachers, they're like,
00:15:21
Speaker
So far, the the results they produce for people are so far beyond what I'd seen anyone else do. I was like, I'd be an idiot not to learn this. So that's what that's what made me go in there. and And I'm able to deliver incredible results to people.
00:15:40
Speaker
m So so just just let's define what exactly, because it's, I heard the term mixed modality. ah What exactly is this discipline that you you did ah when when we were in Mexico?
00:15:58
Speaker
Well... We're going to rename it because is, you know, it's a bunch of different things. But I would say fundamentally, it's based on the principle that tension in the body starts in the fingers and toes.
00:16:12
Speaker
And I feel like this is what is absolutely missing from every other form of bodywork. And it's not that the other forms of bodywork are not good.
00:16:25
Speaker
Most of them are excellent in the realm that they operate.

Integrating Bodywork with Healthcare

00:16:30
Speaker
What I would say is my teachers work with a chiropractor m f and and that helps multiply the results.
00:16:39
Speaker
If someone wants to go for craniosacral therapy, I would work up the left. I'd start with their pinky and work up the left side of their arm to their neck. both arms.
00:16:50
Speaker
That might take me three hours, so two and a and and a half hour session, maybe four. Then go for the craniosacral therapy. And it wouldn't be an addition thing. It would be a multiplication thing.
00:17:01
Speaker
The craniosacral therapist would get more out of them because they'd been pre-
00:17:10
Speaker
conditioned for that treatment i i would have i would have raked the leagues out the leaves out the way so that the craniosacral therapist could get a deeper release and and they would do a bunch of stuff that i don't know how to do and i might never have the time to learn how to do and all of these modalities time massage is excellent but it might take so many Thai massages to regain the level of mobility that we can give people in one session.
00:17:46
Speaker
and if If you go for a deep deep tissue massage without unlocking the finger and toe joints and working up the arm and leg a little bit, the tension will come out for sure, but it will all creep in.
00:18:01
Speaker
If you come for a couple of treatments of what we do, and then you go for the deep tissue massage,
00:18:09
Speaker
it will stay out for months longer, maybe years longer. That's my prediction anyway. So we need to work in concert with other body workers.
00:18:21
Speaker
And it would if if I knew anyone who is a body worker, I'd tell them, don't walk, run to the next course. I'm going to be helping in May and maybe November.
00:18:36
Speaker
Where? Again, and Mexico. The courses are taking care of place in Mexico. and Because whatever you do, whatever form of body work you do, it would be extremely complemented by by the method the that i've learned the methods that I've learned.
00:18:55
Speaker
Okay, so let's let's just briefly discuss the method because I'll tell you a crazy thing. So we did the two-hour session. It was on the Friday. So let me just see when it was. So today is the 17th of March.
00:19:10
Speaker
We did that on the 21st of um February. So it's been one... to three and a half weeks what was crazy so let me quick story so i messed up my neck neck really badly back in 2020 when i was writing my first book was spending 14 hours at the computer for months on end my neck pretty messed up i started going to the cairo pretty often and um then my second book i was writing that about ah Just over a year ago, I finished it.
00:19:42
Speaker
And that was five months. I spent a thousand hours at the computer over five months. It was intense, man. But what happened that time is my neck, which was reasonably in better shape since the last book, something happened and on the left side here.
00:19:58
Speaker
And I no longer had that mobility. And it's kind of weird. So I was going to the Cairo. He was helping a lot. helping it to keep it together. and then one night as of sleeping like I just turned over on the one side and like my neck just popped. I was crazy. like I couldn't turn it for while. So it was bad for a while.
00:20:18
Speaker
But ah you know months went by after i I stopped writing the book. But it would always I could feel it lock up after I spent an hour, two hours at the computer. So anyway, we did the two-hour thing with you and you were only working on the right hand.
00:20:31
Speaker
arm and hand right and you did a little bit of the neck both sides but what happened dude is i came back and i had like i work up to my eyeballs so the next two weeks after that i spent hours and hours at the computer like someday six hours non-stop at the computer crazy thing it does it's not locking up dude it's not freaking locking up now when i turn my head i don't my mobility is not perfect on the left side.
00:20:59
Speaker
feel like I have maybe a few degrees of range of motion less than the right hand side, but it's just not locking up like it was before. And I wouldn't feel this tension right kind of in the middle, right? Maybe three, four C, c three, C four.
00:21:13
Speaker
So I think that was pretty cool. And we we didn't even work on that on the left side much. So I'd like to know what is, what like, let we started at the fingertips. What is going on there that we're doing And how is that tension sort of carrying over to the entire body? Can you just explain that in real simple terms for the listeners that might not have ever done like any of these studies, any of these sort of practices and therapies?
00:21:40
Speaker
Yes, I'll certainly have a go. And by the way, that's really awesome to hear that you've seen such a lasting result from the treatment. It sounds like you might need one or two more to finish the job. That's why I was asking when you're coming to Portugal. mary Brother, it's quite funny and because ah for for people at home, like,
00:22:07
Speaker
The previous time I was in Mexico, a couple of months before I met you, and was actually... i actually listened to your podcast and while I was on my training course. I just remembered that now. Not not literally a while, but I'd popped out for lunch or dinner.
00:22:26
Speaker
and And it was really funny when I met you because I heard your voice... and was like, I recognize that. I recognize that voice. and And there you are Brother Yordanov, as I like to call you.
00:22:38
Speaker
So... i Right, okay. So what exactly is happening? Well, I guess I'm kind of seeing... My my way of describing it is the fingers are like a lever, if you like.
00:22:52
Speaker
So, like, if if that is tight, my I mean...
00:23:01
Speaker
if this if If this joint isn't moving, this makes the finger tight. And if the finger tight, it affects the next, the hand. And if the hand's tight, it affects the arm. And if the arm's tight, it'll go up here.
00:23:15
Speaker
And depending on where, which finger is tight, It's very, very predictive. So if people have got the third and especially the fourth finger, which is really common now because of phones, they will tend to be tender here and behind here. or Just when you say when you say here, just for the audio listeners. Oh, sorry. will Behind the...
00:23:39
Speaker
for the listening audience, behind the elbow, up the arm, behind the elbow. the triceps. Yeah, if i if I squeeze the tricep, people will be like, ow.
00:23:50
Speaker
And also, in the neck, sorry, and between the neck and shoulder, ah behind... trap. For example, yeah, the trap. For the thumb, ah right on the shoulder, in the front of the shoulder.
00:24:04
Speaker
like And I've had people who... One person had pain in the shoulder, in the right shoulder for 10 years, even tried so stem cell injections.
00:24:17
Speaker
Imagine how much he spent on so stem cells. Like, didn't work. ah One session, 70% reduction in pain, massive increase in mobility.
00:24:28
Speaker
It's just because people don't, if you don't, tackle the fact that the fingers are locked up, your results will be modest. That's that's my view. And a lot of people will get a lot of body workers get pissed off, you know,
00:24:44
Speaker
because they studied something for years and years and I'm saying, you know, the results that they deliver will be modest, but that's the conclusion I've come to because I went through the merry-go-round myself, you know, I went to all of those people and the results that I got were modest until I unlocked my fingers and my toes. So, um,
00:25:06
Speaker
So that's I went into a clinic in Edinburgh because I thought was going to be staying more there about maybe getting a room and working on people there. And she's working with the fascia. And I think probably what she's doing is amazing.
00:25:22
Speaker
and she But she said to me, oh, yeah, i had a girl, a woman come and we managed to we corrected a like like a difference in leg length in one session.
00:25:33
Speaker
And she said that like as though i was ah as though she expected me might me to be mind blown. And I was like, oh, great, because we see that all the time with this method. or It happens...
00:25:46
Speaker
a lot. So i wo i didn't know i didn't know I didn't know that I should be really i really impressed. it wasn't until It wasn't until I went away and thought about it and understood and saw the way that she looked at me after she said ah ah that I was that i was i didn't realise I was meant to be impressed by that.
00:26:06
Speaker
And don't get me wrong, it is incredibly impressive. It's just that I thought we were meant to be able to do that.
00:26:14
Speaker
awesome stuff so um yeah so the Treatment itself is, I have to admit, pretty painful, but you did give me one of those wooden sharp-ass sticks.
00:26:29
Speaker
ah what a It's a blunt it's a blun object. i don't ah If if i that is blunt, I don't want to know what sharp is. because if ah If I gave you a sharp object, it would pierce your skin.
00:26:42
Speaker
That's not what I'm going for. Maybe I'm using the wrong side. No, it's it's okay. It's I think it's it's based on the level of how tense you are. The more tense you are, the less pressure will cause pain.
00:26:55
Speaker
That's so true. um That is so true. On average, sometimes I meet people who are very rubbery and you need to put a lot more pressure in them to get pain. It is a no pain, no gain treatment, and maybe that's part of the reason why it's not so well known. I believe there's places in India that do it.
00:27:14
Speaker
and ah They like to go really, really hard on people until they're screaming. but um is that yeah necessary, though? I think... oh So what I do is i I work on a pain scale of one to 10 and we're going for an eight and it's the client's eight, right?
00:27:34
Speaker
There's no use for going to go for a nine out of 10 because... If you come in trying to be a tough guy and like, oh yeah, I'm going to let you go in at a nine, you will not be able to sustain an hour, an hour and a half or two hours. No way. So you want to go for an eight.
00:27:57
Speaker
If it gets too much, then just go for a 7.5. It's better to go for a 7.5 than a 7 because I feel like it's the pain that alerts the brain to the fact that the muscle is unnecessarily tight, which ultimately leads to the signal to relax.
00:28:21
Speaker
I'm going into hypothetical territory here based on my own experience of why I think it's working and what ah from what I've seen, what I think.
00:28:32
Speaker
there' not I don't really like to speak in the realms of what I can prove, ah what I can't prove, but that's what I think. Like, This works on the reflexology chart.
00:28:44
Speaker
And if if you, if you go online, they've got all sorts of charts of what, what area of your foot relates to what organ. And if you speak to reflexologists, they'll have been doing it their whole life. I've not, they'll say, Oh, whenever I meet an alcoholic, their liver point is always agony. When I poke it, it's, it's predictive.
00:29:07
Speaker
Now, i believe I'd say I believe in that stuff, but I can't prove it. So I don't talk about it with my clients. I just talk about the stuff that I can prove, you know, the muscles letting go.
00:29:22
Speaker
it's It's measurable, unlocking the joints. Usually what I do is a demonstration on someone where I'll grab their hand and see which lock, which joint is the most locked, get them to agree that it doesn't move laterally, left to right, left to right.
00:29:39
Speaker
And then I'll do a demonstration to unlock it and show that it does move laterally, left to right. Because seeing is believing. I don't want anyone to have to take me on faith or, or,
00:29:51
Speaker
oh yeah, well maybe in six to 12 weeks, if you come in twice a week, you'll see this much of a difference, you know? and and And I appreciate, you know, in certain fields, that's what's necessary. In chiropractic care, maybe come for three sessions first week, then two, then one a week, and the end six or 12 weeks if you're very good and you practice your exercises.
00:30:15
Speaker
I don't have the confidence to do that. and I want to get results in one session because if I kick someone's ass in one session, they're like, wow, that really moves a lot better.
00:30:26
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if they value themselves enough, they'll be back. And that's what sold me in it. When I met my teacher, I had repetitive strain injury in my wrist so bad, i was scared to pick up my phone.
00:30:38
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She got results in one session. She didn't completely fix it in one session, but it was way better. So I was coming back for more. i was sold. And by the end of that, I was like, if I didn't learn this, I'd be some kind of idiot. You know, I'm there, babe.
00:30:52
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Tell me when your course is. I'll be there. And yeah, and now I'm going to help on the next course. Awesome. You're talking about Baudreau-Fraser, right? Baudreau-Fraser. Yeah, Baudreau-Fraser. And my other teacher is Aisha Gannett. And they're both...
00:31:07
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and phenomenal. Not just practitioners. They're both phenomenal practitioners. A lot of people are good at something, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're good teachers as well.
00:31:20
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They're also good teachers. They're attentive. They observe. They're encouraging. the They don't treat every student as the same. they look They look at what you need.
00:31:32
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They look for what you need to learn and they help. Yeah, I was actually talking to Baudrill, not this year, but last year and I was doing the hydrogen machine and I also, she sort of enlightened me to the fact that you can use DMSO in your eyes. So I started using DMSO in my eyes like, wow, I was always scared because it stinks so bad on the skin. But yeah, really,
00:32:01
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I like what what the the guys in at iHeal Collective are doing. um Just a couple of questions. So why why are the joints supposed to move laterally of the hands and the and the and the feet, the toes and whatnot?
00:32:19
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Okay, so you're going into physiology expertise, which might be some somewhat out of my realm of knowledge. and I kind of like focus on I know what I need to know to get people better.
00:32:34
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Yeah, yeah. i I can't tell you why, i can tell you what happens if they don't. Right? Yeah, go on. Yeah, so if they don't, and the fingers become rigid, gradually they start to, they go from, the hand looks relaxed. See, I've got more work to do. it I know some people just listen, I just listen, but for anyone who's in the video, there's a step, when you look at my hand horizontally,
00:33:03
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there's a step down here. If I continue to get work, one day that'll just go pop and it'll straight in. You know, Asia's seen it happen hundreds or thousands of times.
00:33:14
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So what happens is that the hand just gra gradually curls n and becomes more rigid. And as it becomes more and more rigid, like...
00:33:26
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and The way that a person moves is stiff. The way that a person holds their body is stiff. and And just, it's like, it's again, it's hard to describe for people who are not in the video, but you can if you're if you're watching, you can see, and like, if I'm expanded, right? You know, I'm not big and muscular like you.
00:33:55
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Part of the reason why is because I had all of these all of the stiffness for all of my life, which made it really unpleasant. In fact, when I went to the gym, I had a physiotherapist tell me to go, this is relevant to your question, to go to the gym and pull to aid my back.
00:34:15
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So I was going, i was really faithful. i went and I was pulling and pulling. And then one of my friends who's actually ah a personal trainer came and said, had a look and said, okay, yeah I think you're going to, for the results you want, you're going to need to put more weight on Anthony, you know.
00:34:35
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So less reps, more weights, more sets. More weight, more e more sets. So, okay, i did he put some extra weight on.
00:34:46
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i pulled I did exactly what he said, and like i then I could not use my computer for four days because... the rest the repetitive strain injury in my wrist was so, because this that's not the way to look at it, because the stiffness in my wrist was so bad that doing something else that was meant to be good for me damaged me.
00:35:11
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So that's what happens when the fingers don't move, like the joints and the fingers don't move laterally. You get this stiffness that makes it hard to take exercise.
00:35:24
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that makes it unpleasant to pick things up and take them around your apartment m to reach up, to bend down. If it's happening in the toes, if you've got a pinky toe that starts to migrate under your fourth toe, you're in line for a hip replacement.
00:35:41
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If you look if you look at, Go around and look at the pinky toes of people who've had foot replacements. I'm thinking, I expect you'll see something like 90 to 99% accuracy in my prediction that they've got wonky pinky toes that are not where they should be or pointing in the right direction.
00:36:03
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The sad thing about it is I can usually correct that in under an hour. So people are getting hip replacement. don't get I can't correct the whole foot, but like I've got before and after pictures of people's toes curling around and they think they're just like that, you know, either genetics or shoes or, and and they straighten up, they straighten up in one session.
00:36:27
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Yeah, but you don't take insurance. So I'm going to go with the hip replacement. I'm sorry. right I'm sorry. Exactly. you You talk a good game, but you do take insurance. Right. So, but I mean, you're joking, but this is a sad thing about the system. do you know what I mean? It's really true. the If we had a sane healthcare system, the insurance companies would want to prevent having to pay out.
00:36:55
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But the thing is they get a rebate and the private hospitals get more money and and the doctors have got quotas and everyone's making money from illness. What's more, if you take bad lifestyle choices now and you get bad results in 10 or 20 or 30 years,
00:37:15
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Most people change jobs, which means you will have changed insurance companies. So it's not going to be your insurance company's problem if you get sick later. So they don't really have an incentive to look down the road. But yeah, so we can we can we can save people from hip replacements.
00:37:35
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if the if If the toes get rigid... That leads to the ankle getting rigid. If the ankle gets rigid and you trip over, you will you will be more likely to get sprained or break or hurt your ankle.
00:37:53
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Whereas if your toes are nice and relaxed and the ankle moves well, then you might just you know trip and get back up and it might be a little bit sore. I'm a thermometer for this because when I was a kid, I was so clumsy.
00:38:06
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Whenever I walked ba barefoot, I'd stubbed my toes and it would hurt so much. I couldn't believe it. And I've noticed that I've stubbed my toes recently. And although it does hurt, it just doesn't hurt as much. So you're not as susceptible to...
00:38:23
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m to being put into pain yeah following this treatment. So but when we completed two-hour session in Mexico, you just rotated my two ankles and you were like, oh, Jesus Christ, that looks bad. So um just curious because when...
00:38:47
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you You kind of gave me some some tips and tricks um on what to do. But I remember a couple of years ago, we were going to an osteopath here in Portugal. And she was really good from Austria.
00:38:58
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And she does that one where they feel like the pulsations of your cerebrospinal fluid or whatever. And she would just like do these very subtle things. and you're like wow feel i feel really good that afterwards you know but of course it wouldn't stick because of what you're talking about but what she was telling me at the time is take a hard ball step on it where and wherever you find the tender tenderest spots just sit there, like stay there. egg that yeah yeah So I actually, I started doing that again because I did that for a while, but you need to keep keep up these things. It's like anything else, you know, like training, fitness, whatever.
00:39:37
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So I started doing that again and I, man, like I feel more limber. All over my body. And I'm not doing much. I'm not doing much last couple of weeks because it's raining a lot.
00:39:48
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So I'm not playing tennis or anything. But, man, so tell me, tell us, just that let's because obviously we're going to try to have you in Portugal to kind of do do this for whoever you know is up for it, whoever has the balls. Just kidding.
00:40:02
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um But what can we do at home to start... working on, I think it's easier to do the hands, but I think the feet is also super important. we Give us some tips to start now.
00:40:14
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Oh, that's really good. First of all, that's really awesome that you re-found your um
00:40:22
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tennis ball and that you noticed a difference. And also, I think, because we spoke, you saw the logic of what she told you earlier which made you more inclined to do it you know She had ah ah similar pieces of the jigsaw puzzle to me and some more that I don't have for sure. i wouldn't have known how to do those ankle manipulations that she does. you know She probably knows a lot and that I don't know.
00:40:53
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and yeah But when we started talking about unlocking the joints, that set a light off for you. So all of the knowledge that she gave you um was put into a context where you felt like it was more worthwhile.
00:41:09
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So, yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, it would be great if I could do your toes and then she could do those... ah ankle manipulations because it would be a multiplication thing it wouldn't be like 10 plus 10 be like 10 times 10 because um because they they they they really can complement each other so in answer to your question i mean get a chopstick this is a hairpin here's really good because a lot of people have trouble and with their hands because under the thumb
00:41:41
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Yeah, this flesh of the thumb the whole the whole muscle complex in here, you know. the feeler ah Feel around feeler writes for where there's a tender spot.
00:41:52
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And once you find one, oh, it's sore in there. and apply pressure. If you can go up to an 8 out 10, that would be amazing. Most people when to grab a print yeah most people most people when at work when they work on themselves can't really access an 8 out 10.
00:42:10
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It's just a psychological block. If you can do 7.5 or a 7, that will still work. And you just hold the pressure where it's sore and you just literally wait until it starts to come down. Sometimes it crests, it goes up a little bit more painful, and then it comes down 7, 6.8, 6.5.
00:42:29
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When gets to about 6 or a 5.5, take out the and your thumb around see fear hand feels. take out the tool and roll your thumb around and see how much um how much fear the hand feels m ah ah each time I do it, I think that I hate this. It's painful. This is going to be the last spot.
00:42:52
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But then I move around the hand. I'm like, oh, that feels much better. Let me just do one more. I'm the same, yeah. Yeah, the tips of each of the fingers are good places to target.
00:43:05
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Above and below the joint. and I like to go in between and between the two fingers on the hand, and and you can follow the whole line down if you want to. and There's more advanced stuff.
00:43:20
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ah that That's plenty. Do you know what i mean? If people start with that, you could just do the same thing on the toes. The front as well is very effective, especially on the toes. is very effective especially on the tours But you know what it's like with these things? ah like The vast majority of people listen and go, oh, that sounds really interesting, and they don't do it. They don't do anything, yeah. if If that's you at home listening, thinking that sounds really interesting, and but I'm not going to do it.
00:43:52
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Do it! Brother Yordanov told you. and otherwise People don't do stuff. Yeah, but that's ah let to be honest, that's what I love about... Sorry, do you want to go first? No, go ahead.
00:44:06
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That's what I love about my form of treatment because I'm like... Still, and the i it's not it's not like I want to go to the doctor and be given a pill, but when I go to a practitioner and they're like, okay, do a whole bunch of stuff when you go home, i'm like yeah I'm like, that's very nice of you to say that, but I know what I'm like and my mind's so busy and I'm trying to write a book or I'm trying to do this.
00:44:35
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How do you expect me to do all of that? Whereas with this kind of treatment, I do actually go in and do it for you. So for like people who find it difficult to commit psychologically, i can actually just swoop And even if you're lazy, you'll still get the benefit of the of the treatment and it should last for months or even years, whatever benefits you get.
00:45:01
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yeah, then you can maybe, once you've had a few treatments and you see the benefit of it, you're a bit more likely to work at home, you you start to get the hang of some of it and you can teach your partner or your best friend or your worst enemy, maybe preferably get your worst enemy to poke you because they'll definitely go in at an eight. you know what I mean? They'll definitely be willing to cause you some pain.
00:45:26
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so as you know people do need... help with the with implementation. And as a society, we've not really mastered the psychology of, it's you know, we're we're great at giving people information, but we're not great at helping with implementation. And I think in a sane society, the same way as people get together with their friends to eat pizza,
00:45:53
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the healthcare care system would get them together to make, you know, to do stuff like what your osteopath did, where she mobilizes your ankle, like,
00:46:04
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to work on each other or to have or to do their exercises together, the same way that people go to yoga, you know, and together, something like that. But for old people, which isn't as strenuous as yoga, where you just move your neck this way and that way, and, you know, the insurance system would get people together because most people find it really difficult to do things on their own.
00:46:27
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That is just a fact. Yeah, and I think with this kind of thing, you have to understand what 8 out of 10 pain is at least once.
00:46:39
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Because it's not the kind of thing, yeah, oh yeah, I'm going to poke myself with a chopstick and that seems like an 8 out of 10. And 8 out of 10 is where I want to like...
00:46:51
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runaway. Right, right. Yeah, and a 7 works, you know, 7.5's better. 7.5 works better. I find it hard to go in and myself in an 8.
00:47:02
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I sometimes call someone else in and go, okay, I've done a few points on my pinky, can you just really finish it off and go in full-blown 8? so
00:47:15
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I love that full-blown eight. Full-blown eight. You know, what I like to tell people is eight is when you kind of want to punch me in the face. Ten is your when you're actually going to punch me in the face.
00:47:29
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I say, I don't want to get punched in the face today, brother Yardinov, so do me a favor and stop me at an eight. Yeah. um So what's your take on trigger points? Is that a similar sort of thing of these sort of areas of tension that develop in the body or is it different?
00:47:51
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m I don't know a lot about trigger points, although some people have asked me if that's what I'm doing. So I probably should have... looked it up by now i sometimes feel like a little bit bit de-skilled because my whole entire life whenever i've learned about something like i've wanted to know every single thing like i decided that i was interested in economics and political philosophy in the history of western philosophy and i just like listened to hundreds or thousands of hours of stuff and became an expert and then the pharma thing and then like the
00:48:26
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and psychotherapy, approaches to psychotherapy, different psychological theories, blah, blah, blah. And now I've come into this thing where I'm working on people whose knowledge of physiology and biology far outstrips mine, and I don't have the benefit of, like, 10 years of study behind me.
00:48:48
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So it's like, i'm I'm kind of like, well, you know, in Zen they say you should have a beginner's mind, so I'm just listening to everyone. I know what I need to know to deliver the results that I want to deliver for people.
00:49:04
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But when it comes to the the the ins and outs of physiology, I mean, you know way more than I do. my My friend is a personal trainer I met, and knows way more than I do.
00:49:17
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You know, m so... I think that's okay because like even I have clients that are osteopaths and physicians, ah chiropractors, as well, on the client roster, and they know a lot more about physiology, yeah pharmaceuticals, pharmacical pharmacology, pharmacokinetics and stuff. But I know the reason they come into me is I know the fast, the way to accelerate a person in poor health or with a health issue right back to good health, better health, optimal, closer to optimal and we need lunch shadow At the end of the day, it's the exactly, at the end of the day, it's the, who can get me or you the result faster? if you're in pain, if you have,
00:50:01
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poor range of motion or are your destiny is to have a hip replacement because of simple things, simple tension that just multiplies.
00:50:12
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're so right. And, you know, yesterday I was at a convention i was working at a convention. There was a chiropractor there and I was, like, listening to him do assessments on people and he said, well, if this... this m is locked, then that's likely to lead to this.
00:50:33
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And I was like and i standing there working on someone thinking, I should be recording this dude so that I can listen to... listen ah listen so I can re-listen to his assessments and...
00:50:44
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yeah Because it sounds so impressive when you're able to tell people, you know, well, this vertebrae is out and that leads to dysfunction here, there, and everywhere. But, you know, the more you the the more you know, the more you know.
00:50:58
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So, but but would it, it sounds very impressive, but would it actually improve my practice? I don't know. I'm not going to start clicking people's backs because I don't have that area of expertise. I'd rather send them to someone who does.
00:51:12
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Exactly. Exactly. It's all about, it's just getting the the result for the client. If you can do that. I i think almost no person that I've worked with has asked me, but what are your credentials? You know, it's like nobody's asked people.
00:51:29
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Serious people don't. And it's it's one of these funny things that I found in America, a lot of people at these events introduce themselves.
00:51:41
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I am a licensed blah, blah, blah. I'm a board certified this, that or the other. And maybe they like it. I don't know because I've never grown grown up in the culture, but it always makes me think who the hell cares, right?
00:51:56
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If you need to say that, I am actually less impressed with you because yeah because you've needed to tell me what your credentials are. Like, I would rather you're silently, or I'd rather hear the wisdom in your words.
00:52:16
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I'd rather hear context, the context that you can bring. the the context you can bring is, Do you sound like you know your shit?
00:52:30
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Like, I've had people come up to me, you know, just at the convention saying, oh, my friend JJ said you're a wizard or said you're this or that or you're other.
00:52:41
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You know, my ah my paper credentials as a body worker are ah few. i i am have but I have spent way too much time in college, you know, ah studying other things.
00:53:00
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So if I've got a bunch of qualifications from universities, a lot of that was a waste of time. Not all of it. Some of it was really good. It really helped me be a writer. I learned lots of stuff that I really do value.
00:53:12
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But a lot of those years I would have rather have done other things with. So I don't really rate myself by the amount of years that I spent in college. I think I might have spent 10 years in and higher education.
00:53:26
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But not studying bodywork, but I think I'm more of a wizard in bodywork than a lot of the stuff that I studied at uni. so Oh, yeah. um I'm... and Sorry for your soul that got crushed under those 10 years of... um Of course, there's always good things that come out of it.
00:53:44
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Yeah, no. There's always good things that come out of it. We were trying to fight. was trying to find my way into the right thing, you know? Yes. So it's kind of like, yeah, it is what it is. you know what I mean?
00:53:56
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Now, what's what's your take on the joint? So I'm actually able to, these little joints in the fingers, like the pinky, for example, I'm actually able to like pop them. What's your take? If if you can pop a joint like that, gently, should you be doing that?
00:54:12
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is Does that mobilize the joint somewhat more than not doing it? You know, I've heard people say don't do it. I've heard people say do it.
00:54:23
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the the The question is... more like what like why is it like that like when when people like crack their knuckles all the time do they do do they have like um again i'm always just looking at chronic muscle tension i feel like i don't want to like if i come down on one side of that debate and the science comes along and i was on the wrong side of it then then then ah yeah i just don't like to ah I just don't really like to make judgment where I feel like my judgment is not It's not it's necessary to to have an opinion on what's better to do it or not to do it. its
00:55:06
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If you're able to do that and it allows you to mobilize the joint do you think it's worth but or are you more about just get the chopstick and just try to and i'm like just getting' get just get your chopstick and get your wife get in an argument with your wife and afterwards say i need you to go in i i need you to go in and eat right here you know and she will you know yeah so and
00:55:39
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at the side of the finger you know once that thing is like i don't sorry for people who are just listening you know i noticed this when i was in school this finger goes off to the side it creates tension in a predictable way all the way up here and with the pinky toe you can just bend over and push it under your fourth finger and you will feel tension in your buttocks.
00:56:08
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So just by doing that on myself, I could tell people, well, I know you're going to have tension in your buttock. because I tested it out on myself. I saw what happened when I moved my pinky toe. Like this? yeah Yeah.
00:56:23
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Yeah. The way that yours is, can literally feel it in my butt. So I know you've got tension in your butt because it's just the way the body works. So the the difference is, now look at that and go, it can be corrected.
00:56:39
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just like the step in my hand, you know, that doesn't need to, I thought I'd just be like that. That can be, that can, that can actually be corrected. Whereas before we didn't think it could be corrected.
00:56:51
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What's coming online in terms of our potential to heal is actually quite phenomenal at this stage in history.
00:57:03
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How do you mean? Well, just like, i if I'd known about this form of treatment, 20 years ago that would have saved me lot of time money energy and i would have been much healthier for the like for the last 20 years and you know i would have been much more relaxed it would have been pleasant to move I could have enjoyed yoga more I could have enjoyed all sporting activities more but the fact is this
00:57:38
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rate of healing was not available to me i could have maybe gone to thailand and got like five thai massages a week for months and and maybe and i would have got some of the same results do you know what i mean but but now we're kind of yeah we're heading into to the light speed era of um especially since we're all linking together and talking.
00:58:03
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COVID was bad, but one good thing about it was it got everyone in the health, it got the healthcare community to congregate around a network of podcasts.
00:58:17
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So if some innovation comes along that's really, really helpful, really, really useful, at will be, it can easily be disseminated

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00:58:29
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now.
00:58:29
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It can get out to all of us and we can all find out about it. Yeah. So i'm just curious just for myself, because i obviously ah I'm feeling like that was a good two hours that we spent, but we only did the one arm. So yeah obviously I want to continue, at least for myself. I'm not sure if the listeners are going to want to even try this, but um how do you, once you're done with the hand, how do you start moving up the arm?
00:58:58
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Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, I mean, you're just going to have to lay your arm down and get your elbow in. I like to do either side of the... On almost everyone I work on the arm, I'll do either side of the wrist at eight and then on top of the wrist at least once.
00:59:17
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because The reason why I call that like a bang for a buck point, after I do that and they roll around the wrist, 90% of the time someone will go, wow, that feels much better. So I like to give people results they can actually feel.
00:59:31
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If you're able to do it, you know you can get your elbow in the top the top of the arm yeah You might need your wife to do the bottom of the the the other side of the arm. and Whatever you can do do, it. You seem like you're committed enough, so you can really go in with your elbow up up your arm. Oh, yeah, see, I noticed that's incredibly tender, so I really need it there.
00:59:55
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I could really benefit from going in at an eight. But then I'd actually trace it trace that down until it wasn't tender. I'd start just where it wasn't tender and see how much... And then I'd then i'd go back up the way to where it was.
01:00:12
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Oh, and it's really bad there. So that means I really need it. I mean, it shouldn't be that painful. Yeah. so I'm finding this spot here super tender, just as you're talking.
01:00:23
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Well, yeah, that's your... So I'd guess that probably your pinky isn't quite um unlocked yet, but also in here, in between the pinky and the fourth finger, there's a whole complex of muscle in here.
01:00:39
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you could go in with ah You could go in with a chopstick, you know, in between the two bones. what's yeah What's pretty mind-blowing is my my wife, um she got these anatomy cards because she's doing all these Pilates. So she she didn't need the stuff with the hands and the feet, whatever.
01:01:00
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So she allows me to show those to our daughter because you know we know eventually they're going to get wrecked. But when well when I'm looking at these... um uh the musculature of the the feet and the hands it's insanely complex right people think oh just that's my my hand bone is connected to my arm bone you know but like the there's dozens i think there's dozens of muscles when you actually break it down little ones tendons ligaments so i can see how
01:01:33
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if like what you're saying that these muscles are a lever or a lever for the American audience, ah tiny ah a muscle with tension can potentially cause pretty nasty effects in much bigger muscles much further away from the hand.
01:01:56
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Yeah. Yeah. it's and It's an incredible innovation.
01:02:02
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So, yeah, I'm looking forward to getting to Portugal myself. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. we're gonna We're going to do some cool stuff and hopefully we're going to get other people involved that want to be part of this because um i i see when there's something, i can kind of sniff out if there's potential in something and when I see it, um i yeah I want to do more with it.
01:02:30
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You've experienced it firsthand, so you know it's undeniable. you know i i i just have so much faith in the method it's like i have so much faith in the method that i can come out as a relative ignoramus that doesn't know tons about anatomy and still feel completely confident treating people because i just see body after body the results that it provokes and they were exactly, you know, it was exactly what I was hoping to get, you know, when I naively stepped ah into chiropractor's office at 24 or 25 or whatever i age I was when I first saw a body worker, you know, yeah were able to get, were able to, I'm able to get results for people. And it's the, it's the method that's to credit, you know,
01:03:19
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Yeah, yeah. I just wish ah i instead of doing my session on Friday, could started earlier. There was dude next to me. He was there every day. Yeah, that's right. into it And he was into it. Yeah, and at the end of it, he was like, I feel like I've just come out my mother's womb.
01:03:39
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That's what he said on his video testimonial for our Instagram page, you know, Instagram.com forward slash Fox Lotus Healing.
01:03:51
Speaker
I've got a whole bunch of a whole bunch of video testimonials on there. Yeah, and and he said he felt like he'd just come out of his mother's womb. Everything was working better. I would have loved to get more chance to work on you as well, but we will.
01:04:06
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yeah It's in the mail. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we're going to have you on the show again to talk about other cool stuff. So um thank you so much for joining us today, Anthony. And as we wrap up, till just remind the listeners where they can find you everywhere, your websites, if they want to work with you.
01:04:25
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The best way to get in contact with me is Anthony at BeYourselfAndLoveIt.com. There's BeYourselfAndLoveIt.com. That's more for my counseling, like psychotherapy, coaching practice.
01:04:38
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Then there's Be Yourself And Love It podcasts. and And I'm pretty easy to find if you type. I'm the only Anthony Samaroff in the world. so wow so um ah So if you type my name in right, you know, no H in the Anthony, double M for mother, double F for foxtrot, you'll definitely find me pretty easily if you want to.
01:05:02
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And I'm sure people will be well informed of me. if I'm coming to port Portugal for their opportunity to get treated there.
01:05:13
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Otherwise, and I will see people internally in the UK and I actually travel from event to event. I'm in Austin, Texas at the moment. So if you if if you're interested, if you want it badly enough, you'll get in touch.
01:05:30
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Yeah, yeah. Otherwise, grab that chopstick and start stabbing all your tender points. Right. Exactly. All right, brother. Thank so much for coming on today. Thank you.
01:05:42
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01:06:00
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And I don't want you to be one of those people, right? These are weakening us, accelerating disease and shaving years of our lives if we do these. And these are very basic things like taking fish oil and low carb diets of various sorts, keto, carnivore, whatever, and intermittent fasting, stuff like that, like very stressful practices that are shortening your life. So check out the masterclass, learn more about why these things are not good. See some of the science and protect yourself and your family.
01:06:26
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Again, thanks for watching or listening and i'll see you in the next episode.