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The 5 Levels of Healing

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Introduction to Christian Jordanoff and Live Longer Formula

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Hey there, it's Christian Jordanoff. Thank you for tuning back into the podcast. Today I'm going to play you the recording of a video I have inside my health optimization and longevity program, the Live Longer Formula.

Five Levels of Healing Overview

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And in it, I discuss the five levels of healing as proposed by Dr. Dietrich Klinghart, MD, PhD. He

Dr. Klinghart's Autonomic Response Testing

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is a legend in the health and functional medicine space, and he's a real pioneer in many things including something known as autonomic response testing, which I don't really have too much time to get into it, but it's a way of identifying imbalances in the body through testing using various methodology and and tools that he has developed.
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and This is an an amazing amalgamation of various modalities from applied kinesiology to quantum physics to a bunch of other stuff in between that to be perfectly honest i don't fully understand barely understand barely have a conceptual understanding of some of these things but i am participating in one of these courses that he holds on this and I thought I would just share ah couple of cool models he has, again, about the five levels of healing. These pictures are but publicly available, so you can just go it or whatever. it Just type in five levels of healing.
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It should come up.

The Five Levels of Healing Pyramid

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It's basically a pyramid with the physical body at the bottoms, the energy body, the mental body, intuitive and the spiritual body at the top. And then There's some discussion, some tables around this. So very interesting just to kind of sort of meditate over, right?
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There's nothing necessarily actionable that will come out of it. It's just more to give us an understanding of how we can become diseased or how we can heal.

Open-mindedness in Healing

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Because sometimes the the root of something, health problem, condition, disease,
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it may not necessarily be where we think it is right because the reality we live in is far more complex than our five senses can perceive we cannot perceive the full reality of all the layers of causality and everything and energy and spirit if you want to use that word i know so some of you would use that word so enjoy this episode Again, you won't have the visuals, but you can just go type in Dr. Klinghart levels of healing and this will come up on the whatever search engine you're using.
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In this video, I thought I would just present the five levels of healing to you as proposed by Dr. Dietrich

Complexity of Dr. Klinghart's Methods

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Klinghart, MD, PhD, and just discuss these briefly just to give you a little bit of an understanding that whilst we do what we do at the level of the physical body, in some cases there could be something and a different plane of reality that could be contributing to our health issues.
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So we always have to keep an open mind. that there may be the deeper work we need to do along the journey whilst we work together, right? So there may be other practitioners that I might refer you out to, or I may ask you to look for someone and you will see why in in a quick second. So basically,
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This is the five levels of healing as proposed by Dr. Dietrich Klinghart. I'm actually doing a course with him in a modality he has developed over the last few decades called Autonomic Response Testing, where we basically use things like muscle testing and various devices they have designed to help us identify imbalances in various aspects of the body. So it could be toxicity, you could actually test a specific supplement or herb or food whether the person would react well to it or poorly to it. It's vast and complex, this body of work. There's many levels before you can actually become a certified practitioner that can practice this.
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um i just started level one a couple of months ago. So

Case Study: Birth Trauma

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by no means am I an expert in... in this area. But what i found very interesting is the the five levels of healing. If we can understand them a little bit better, it will help us figure out could there be other areas that we can look for to heal ourselves for. Just simple example.
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If you have birth trauma, which if you know Dr. Stanislav Grof, He kind of developed this whole entire sort of field. He was doing LSD ah psychotherapy back in the 60s before LSD was outlawed and he developed holotropic breathwork as a way to kind of approximate those states without psychedelic um interventions.
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So he has worked a lot in this area of of birth trauma and developed a whole model around it. So just as an example, if you have birth trauma, in a specific area of your body, for example, some people are born with the cord wrapped around their neck. Well, that's gonna manifest in life, potentially, not necessarily with all people, but potentially it could manifest as something.
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There was an example in one of his books I read where a guy had just that specific birth trauma, or the cord being wrapped around his neck when he was born. His thing was when he would go to like a new city for his work, or well i don't remember the full details of the story,
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but He would go to like two cities for work. I think he was like maybe some kind of businessman or whatever, corporate executive, whatever. He would find guys or people that were in the business of just like dominating people, like dominatrix So kind of sadomasochistic type things. And he would get himself in a situation where like, you know, people like what he'll pay for people to choke him and just do stuff like really just pretty weird, strange stuff. And then he did this LSD psychotherapy with groff who i think is still alive he's like in his 90s now and that's when he kind of experienced that re-experienced it uh let go of that sort of blocked energy that's because ah that's what a lot of these psychedelics do they allow the autonomic nervous system to just kind of pulse and vibrate these things out of the body that's why some people find it very therapeutic and then he remembered that or or at least he had some sensations of it and he no longer than need to get into those situations and i think
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I'm not sure if he was going to to get help because he got to a place where he nearly got basically killed. Someone was choking him and he almost killed him or something like that. It was very severe.
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So this is just a very extreme example of a birth trauma that can

Physical Level of Healing

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manifest. and No amount of talk therapy or maybe potentially even supplement therapy are going to dissolve that trauma unless it's identified and in some way transfigured or transmuted or or let go or experienced. So that that's an example. And this will kind of make a little bit more sense as I go through the the levels of healing.
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The first level, we have the physical body. The second level, we have the energy body. And the third the third level, we have the mental body. Then we have the intuitive body and then the spiritual body. In the next screenshot here, this is basically his guide to diagnosis and treatment. Of course, this is just for informational purposes, right? So we we we're just kind of looking at it to give us ideas where could we ourselves maybe need a little bit more work right beyond what i'm going to be teaching you so let's look at the first level the physical body so our experience at this level is sensations touch smell action movement right so the anatomical and conceptual designation is basically it's all about structure biochemistry right the related sciences mechanics and chemistry so us moving through 3d space and time or guess 4D if you consider time as a fourth dimension.
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And chemistry, biochemistry, so enzymes and vitamins and minerals and amino acids and things with enzymes in the body rearranging things. And this is the physical realm sort of characteristics.
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So his diagnostic methods that he has listed here are direct resonance, right? So autonomic response testing. This is the modality he developed that I'm studying kind of on the side when I have time.
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This is his methodology is very powerful in the hands of the right practitioner. Right. But beyond that, or rather what most of us are doing is things like physical exams. Doctors would do that. car You know, chiropractors, osteopaths, stuff like that, orthopedic doctors and stuff like that. Lab tests.
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Right. That's another one. And of course, we have clinical evaluation. This is also self-reported symptoms. This is, again, back to the clinical assessment or the examination. So every practitioner is going to have a different way of doing this.
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For example, doctors, they have blood tests. That's a staple. They have basic examinations, various kinds of physical examinations. Chiropractors have and a different type of examination. They look at movement. and Osteopaths look at different things.
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And so on and so forth, right? And, you know, when now nowadays that we have a lot of this sort of remote clinical work, we have, for example, in my case, I have all the questionnaires, the signs, the symptoms, diet, lifestyle, questionnaires, how you're pooping.
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stressors, how you're sleeping, all of that good stuff.

Structural Issues and Bodywork

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And of course, that including health history, including previous hospitalizations, what supplements you're taking, and what medications you're on or have been on, all of these things help us identify imbalances, identify room for improvement, healing opportunities and things like that.
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Now, the related medical treatment, now remember he's an MD, PhD, this dude, Dr. Klinghart. So he is looking at things very much through the lens of a doctor, although he's very much into the acupuncture, the homeopathy, the This stuff to most doctors that he teaches with ART looks like straight up quackery because you can actually do it.
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You can test a person through a second person where the second person, your assistant touches the other person, puts their hand on them, and then you test your assistant or your sort of the intermediary person.
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Use them to test the other person. So he says, warning, when you do it this way, if there's onlookers, very high chance it's going to look like quackery. They have actually published their own peer-reviewed papers about diagnosing various various things, including things like Lyme disease. so Dr. Klinghart is a big, one of the top of the food chain, quote-unquote, in terms of Lyme disease treatment and autism and stuff like that.
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So the related medical treatment and healing techniques at the physical level, at the first level, would be things like diet. right? Exercise, osteopathy, chiropractic, surgery, physical therapy with doctors, drugs, orthomolecular medicine, aromatherapy, herbs, supplements, all of these things, right? So at this level, my role is to help with diet, with supplementation, you know using various herbs for specific reasons. Third thing that can go wrong here is in some cases it can be things like dental malocclusions. So if your teeth don't sort of line up when you close your mouth, that can cause a lot of stress.
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That can actually cause muscles to start straining over time. That can cause that to refer pain to other places. It can cause your muscles to tighten up in the places that are far relatively far away from the jaw.
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That's one thing. Injuries, broken bones, like I broke my tibia and fibula in my leg, close to the ankle in my mid-20s. And, you know, stuff like that. have 10 bolts, two plates in there.
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Stuff like that is going to cause imbalances over time, right? So some people have just in terms of, let's say if you drive a lot, or if you sit a lot for your job like so many of us do, or other injuries, scars, if you have surgery or or any other type of wound that then scarified, that scar can cause issues at the physical level that can manifest as physical symptoms.
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Of course, you know, other misalignment of bones, stuff like that, right? This this kind of stuff. So this is something that I can't help with. And this is something that could be an issue for you. So we need to, you need to sort of see, do I have a had an injury? If you had like, for example, you know, some people have a car accident that causes issues down the line.
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I had one client who went to this, I forgot the type of chiropractic, it's a special type of chiropractic, but she had balance and dizziness issues. And they micro-adjusted the little bones inside her middle, inside the the inner ear, right?
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Some people, their belly button, when the when the doctor ties it, they tie it too tight. that actually can cause fascial sort of... The fascia is like this, almost like a lining inside the muscle, between the muscle fiber. So it's almost like this.
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This is what kind of joins eventually the muscle to the tendon. So this fascia, it has a contractile force. If you have a scar or a knot, like a trigger point, or like, for example, the the example I said, like when the belly button is tight, it can pull muscles and and sort of contract things in a certain way that then can cause other structural issues. right So this is why...
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This is an area where you may benefit beyond diet supplementation, stress reduction, hormone balancing, detox, gut health, all of the stuff we're going to do. This is where you may benefit from osteopathy, chiropractic, maybe acupuncture. In some cases, you know, i recently had some body work done on my right arm and The guy that did it he found this knot kind of on my bicep and it took him like 5-10 minutes to kind of work through it and dissolve it So this kind of stuff, it can just for years and years and decades and decades, it can just cause minor sort of a pulling of, ah let's say a muscle down or up or a bone up and down.
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And that can then from the bicep that can refer to the chest, but it can, you know, potentially it can go to the the hands and the fingers. from the chest, anything goes. The neck can be affected. And if the neck is affected, the head is affected. That can cause headaches.
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And then we might think the headache is caused by food sensitivity or toxicity where it could be some kind of structural issue. So this is where finding and working but with a good body work practitioner can be beneficial. Some folks, if they can afford it, going for massage is even just a standard massage once in while is really helpful to just help the body just relax a little bit,

Energy Body and Practices

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right? Send some good signals to the the nervous system.
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So that's the physical body, right? So the point here for you is that this is most of what I help you with, right? So the first couple of levels, diet.
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I can recommend some exercises to prevent injury and kind of recover from injury as well. And that's coming up in the program. I can help you improve your breathing. That's also, there'll be a lot more videos coming on breathing exercises in the program.
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Of course, the herbs, the supplements, all of this stuff, I can help you with the hormones and the gut health and detoxification. But if you've had an injury in the past, and you know what, you have some scars, or you feel like your body is not aligned well, this is where we have, you yourself, of course, you can discuss it with me, and I can give you my input. But this is where you have to start thinking, do I need further work beyond just the things we're going to be working together.
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So the second level is the energy body. So first level, physical body. The second level is the energy body. So this is where we have things like feelings, you know anger, excitement, qi, so the qigong energy, the sixth sense and other energy perceptions.
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So the anatomical and conceptual designation is for the nervous system. This is still a part of the physical body because the nervous system kind of works with electrical impulses.
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It's energy, right? We have the meridians, we have chakras, the aura, the bioelectric system, right? The related sciences here are physiology and physics and the diagnostic methods. So, of course, Dr. Klinkhart has Autonomic Response Testing levels 1 and 2.
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We can have things like thermograms, EEGs, so measuring the heart, EMG, EKG, VAS, kinesiology. There's things like Chinese pulses, Kirlian photography, X-rays, MRIs, CAT scans, things like that, right? There's These are some of the diagnostic tools at the second level, the energy body.
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So as you can see, someone like me, one day hopefully I'll have the autonomic response testing, full you know ability to to understand, do and practice the stuff, but we don't have this kind of equipment.
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Especially when we when we're working remotely with with clients, right? But there's specific techniques for treatment and healing at this level that you can actually apply yourself, right?
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So we have things like some more complex stuff, harder to kind of do yourself stuff like neurotherapy. You need a practitioner. We have microcurrent therapies. You need equipment. acupuncture, you know you need a practitioner, body work and touch is helpful in this area because it works at the nervous system level. but Because when you touch a person, you kind of are activating the nervous system. So if you know what to do, you can have a lot of beneficial effects on a person.
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But things that you can do yourself would be things like yoga, qigong, meditation, and something that I can help with at this level is the the the breath therapy. So at this level, we're talking about, sure, some of the stuff is a bit more esoteric, difficult to conceptualize for many of us, like meridians and chakras and aura, but we have the nervous system here, right?
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And how you breathe directly affects your nervous system. So you have the, as you know, there's a couple of arms or components of the autonomic nervous system. We have the rest and digest or the feed and breathe nervous system, which obviously that's the one when you're sleeping, when you're digesting food, that's the one that's activated.
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And then we have the sympathetic nervous system or the fight or flight. So the other one is parasympathetic, ah rest and digest, parasympathetic. Or we have a sympathetic nervous system, the fight or flight nervous system.
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And how you breathe directly affects that. In fact, I don't recommend that you do this exercise now. But if you if you were to take 10 very fast and deep breaths in and out through your mouth right now, like...
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almost like um what you call it, ah Wim Hof breathing, which is just literally just activating your sympathetic nervous system, just stressing you out, you know. I don't see any benefit in doing that because life is going to stress you out anyway.
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But that's a whole different topic for another discussion. If you were to do this exercise and let's say you were measuring your pulse or you had something measuring your pulse in real time, you will notice that your heart rate will speed up, your pulse obviously it will speed up. If you had more sophisticated lab tools, you could ah you would see that eventually your adrenaline will start going on You're activating the fight-or-flight nervous system simply by breathing that way. Now, that's an extreme example.
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The autonomic nervous system from all the way to the most stressful part of the fight-or-flight nervous system, all the way down to the least, the most relaxed parasympathetic.
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This is a spectrum. It's not a non-off switch. So how you breathe... can take you somewhat into stress mode, into sympathetic nervous system mode, or a lot. Conversely,

Breathing Patterns and Stress

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if you breathe more slowly and teach your body to tolerate less volume of an air per minute and allow your body to become more tolerant to the carbon dioxide level in your blood, that actually will allow you to breathe less but be better oxygenated and it will also lower your stress response. So you can actually, using your breath, you can
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quite literally lower stress right you can go from a more sympathetic tone of your nervous system to a more parasympathetic rest in the digest tone so these are the kind of things that we can do ourselves at the energy body level the second level so breath Yoga, because yoga and qigong and meditation, a lot of it, of course, you're manipulating how you breathe, not necessarily manipulating with meditation you're observing, but generally in a meditative meditative state, your breathing does slow down.
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And that's that's why it's beneficial for stress and nervous system and yoga qigong similar but of course if you have access to a good acupuncturist once twice a month really an awesome thing to do also if you ever want to try electroacupuncture i've tried that it's super awesome and then body work and touch again this is so this is the nervous system the meridian the chakra so you can actually direct affect these at this level through these modalities Now, the third level, the mental body, this is where we're talking about thoughts, beliefs, attitudes. This is where consensus reality, so this is our experience at this level.
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So for the most part, thoughts, right? Conceptualizations of the world, beliefs, attitudes, right? And the and anatomical and conceptual designation here is mind and mental field. So getting a little bit more esoteric. So some of us that are a bit more, i don't know, left but I hate this left-right brain sort of thing, but if you're more left-brain, quote-unquote, logical, or kind of in more in the physical, don't believe so much in this airy-fairy stuff, it it does get a little bit harder to conceptualize. But I think we all understand, but most of us at least and understand you have thoughts and beliefs beliefs.
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these can shape not just your view of reality, but they can actually... so i had a my friend, he's an amazing functional ah practitioner. He's a leader in the space, Brendan Vermeer.
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He says this really cool phrase that it's thoughts become proteins. but So you think something and you can literally create certain...
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hormonal cascades in the body and neurotransmitter cascades in the body so just sitting here if you were to just start thinking of being chased by like a dude with a knife down a dark alley right if you start thinking these negative thoughts and you were able to measure your hor hormonal levels and stuff like that you could see your cortisol increasing your adrenaline increasing you could see your heart rate increasing, your breathing will probably speed up, your blood will start to go to the extremities. That's what the fight or flight response does.
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And it goes away from the gut area, which is where the rest and digest nervous system, this is where the blood and the energy is allocated more. So the sciences here, according to Dr. Klinghart, are things like psychology.
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So you can do psychotherapy, which you know so some of us don't really agree with their methods, especially when they start putting people on SSRIs and drugs and antidepressants and stuff. But you can

Mental Body and Health

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have also psychology. You have things like positive psychology. You have things like cognitive behavioral therapy, neuro-linguistic programming.
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Actually, according to Dr. Klinghart, homeopathy works at this level. right you can have applied psychoneurobiology which i think dr clinkhart is kind of uh developing that as well things like mental field therapy but also another modality that you may have heard of it's called emdr eye movement desensitization and reprocessing it's a form of psychotherapy designed to treat post-traumatic stress disorder but has a lot of other benefits so this is where basically like you move your eyes left right and It's just another way of kind of processing and and sort of letting go and allowing.
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If you can think of, let's say, trauma in the body, physical, psychological, whatever it may be. It's like if you can imagine an ocean and the this wave started to kind of form, but then it was frozen in time.
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and it never sort of the the wave never went through its course in order to merge back with the ocean. If you think about a dog, for example, when a dog is scared, it starts to shake.
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And when the threat goes away, it will shake for however long to shake out this fear and did this kind of negative and emotions, quote-unquote, right?
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And then the dog, for example, my dog, she goes on her merry way, that goes to the other room and then goes for a nap. No problem. So animals have this innate, and humans, but animals more so are are attuned to this.
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We have this innate ability. They have this innate ability just to kind of shake out the emotion. process it and not let it get lodged into their body.
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So this is something that we also have in certain practitioners and modalities. That's what it's all about, getting the person to shake and vibrate the stuff out of their body. So this could be beneficial for you at this level, you know depending on past experiences, stuff like that. Just as an example, i think I forgot the name of the author.
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think it was the guy that wrote either The Body Keeps the Score or Waking the Tiger. And both of these books are about processing past trauma and stuff. And I think he had um a car accident.
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And he was just shaking up after it. And then they were like trying to stop him to shake the paramedics or whatever. He's like, no, no, no, this is good. This way it doesn't become traumatic. It just is an experience that you, it's like a wave in the ocean, a massive big wave, and then it splashes and crashes and then eventually just merges back with the ocean. So this is kind of how we're supposed to experience things, right? And more minor things like, yeah okay okay, someone cuts you off in traffic, like ah you asshole.
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And then, you know, a few minutes later, the idea is, okay, you got angry or whatever, you experienced the emotion and then the the emotion subsided back into the ocean of the mental body, let's say.
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and it's no longer an issue for you. The problem that we have nowadays especially, maybe we've always had this, is that through our thoughts, we tend to replay things.
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We have arguments in our heads. but We have some limiting beliefs, often from our conditioning, our parents, our early environment. We have attitudes about the world, about how people would treat us, about how fair it is, about the globalists or whatever.
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and Through various modalities we are able to change and let go of of things that thoughts, beliefs and attitudes that do not serve us.
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And this is an

Therapeutic Modalities for Mental Health

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area where I believe I can help to an extent, especially things around health, beliefs and thoughts and attitudes around health. But if it's something a little bit deeper, maybe a relationship with your parents,
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or maybe previous relationships with a romantic partners. This is an area I'm not trained in properly to offer. So I may refer you to practitioners in my network. I have friends who are, you know, i have one friend, he's a ah psychotherapist, body worker, so he can work with remote clients at at the mind level with in person.
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He can work on the body, so the energy body level and the physical body level. I have another a friend who's a practitioner. He's an NLP, cognitive behavior therapy. He does hypnotherapy and coaching.
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So I have quite a few different sort of directions I can help a person go in. So if you discuss these things with me, just kind of ping me in the chat, let me know, and then maybe I can help help to find some kind of additional thing that may help you. Because remember, if an issue is caused by a higher level, simple example, if something in the physical body is caused by something, that's the first level, if it's caused by something at the third level, of the mental body,
00:27:57
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And we're just looking at the physical aspect, like maybe getting chiropractic or, you know, let's say it's headaches. Simple example. So you might try chiropractic or osteopathy and we might remove gluten and, you know, we might do all of these things around neurotransmitters and stuff like that.
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But if that issue or the origin is at a different level of reality, which I know it sounds a bit very fair to say that, but if it's at a different level, if it's at the mental mental level,
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A lot of these things here will be kind of trying to mask the symptom, but we have to go deeper. And another amazing part practitioner I met recently, he talks about, you know we have to, with ourselves, we have to identify our core wound.
00:28:41
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Was it neglect? Was it needs not being met? Was it some kind of actual trauma, physical, psychological? So if we can identify our core wound immediately, you know we are able to finally, once you know it's there, what it is and what aspect of your life caused it, we're able to actually move forward and kind of heal ourselves.
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So this is the reason why it may be beneficial to to look further if you feel like there's something in your past or even in your current life, that's some something that is causing friction.
00:29:17
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Again, it could be a job. It could be a partner. It could be issues with friends, family. The stress of these may interfere with your progress at the physical level, at the energy level, the energy body level. i so And this is something that a coach or a therapist or some kind of other practitioner can help you to resolve here. And then it will unblock a lot of stuff here.
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at the physical level and the energy level.

Intuitive Body and Healing Modalities

00:29:43
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So then the fourth level is the intuitive body. And this is getting even more esoteric. So we have things like intuition, symbols, trance, meditative states, dreams.
00:29:58
Speaker
And then we have things like magic and curses and spirit possession, out of body and out-of-body experiences and near-death experiences. The anatomical and conceptual designation is the collective unconscious, right so no mind.
00:30:11
Speaker
So we go from mind and mental field, the individual level, we have the collective unconscious like Jung talks about. And this is where we have the related sciences, are mathematics and quantum physics. So this is, for most of us, I think, not super accessible.
00:30:28
Speaker
But some of the diagnostic methods that Dr. Klinghart lists, so we have so applied psychoneurobiology, that's his thing Systemic family constellation. So this is a treatment modality that there's practitioners doing this. so this For some people, especially with their family issues, or there could be transgenerational trauma, which is the case for some folks.
00:30:51
Speaker
If your grandparents were in the war or something like that, that is a thing. And there was a great book on this by Mark Wallin. W-O-L-Y-N-N, I believe.
00:31:04
Speaker
The book is called It Didn't Start With You. And he talks a lot about this sort of transgenerational trauma. Really good book. Also good audiobooks. You can get that on Audible. You also have things like sound and voice analysis, dream analysis, art therapy, and the healing techniques, of course, family constellations, color and sound therapies, hypnotherapy, right?
00:31:29
Speaker
In some cases, union, psychotherapy may be helpful. Things like rituals, shamanism. So this is this is getting a little bit, you know like I said, little bit more esoteric.
00:31:40
Speaker
And I genuinely believe now, having met more and more of these kinds of people, is that there are people out there, you want to call them healers or shamans or whatever you you want to call them, medicine men and women, that definitely can help with this. And I think a lot of it, the this stuff around the rituals, I think it it does have an effect, even if it's just like ah placebo effect.
00:32:06
Speaker
Placebo can be very powerful. and It can be like 40% of the therapeutic value of of an intervention. you know So this is where we, of course, like i said, it gets a little bit but deeper.
00:32:19
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And then, of course, the fifth level is the spiritual body. And our experience at this level would be things like bliss, oneness with God, Satori.
00:32:30
Speaker
The anatomical and conceptual designation here spirit, higher consciousness, and the related quote-unquote sciences would be things like religion and spirituality.

Spiritual Body and Practices

00:32:40
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And the diagnostic method here is knowing and awareness.
00:32:43
Speaker
And the healing techniques involved here or that can be utilized here are things like prayer, true meditation, chanting, you know, just this is something that Dr. Klinghart is like, you know, you don't, this is no place for the practitioner to meddle with, you know, to insert themselves in This is something that you yourself will work on and i think all of us are working on this in some way shape or form uh some of us you know want to like to pray chant meditate whatever this is this is your own sort of journey and how you relate to and communicate with if we can use this term uh verb with god or the creator or your relationship with spirit so this is
00:33:41
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It's not something that I will be able to help you with it or anyone will be able to help you with. This is something that it's our own personal journey for each of us. And we have the our own conceptualization of how this this all works.

Conclusion: Holistic Health Approach

00:33:54
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right So those are the five levels of healing. And i this is more, for me, it's it's interesting to kind of look at this model of Dr. Klinghart because I'm not saying that you need to go deeper necessarily, like that you need hypnotherapy or neuro-linguistic therapy or EMDR or you might have had a good ah upbringing without any issues and school was fine and you didn't have any sort of bad breakups and relationships and stuff like that.
00:34:24
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But you may also, you know, some folks may have had an accident or some kind of surgery or or a wound, a scar that could be contributing in some way to their health problems.
00:34:38
Speaker
So if that's the case for you, you just need to identify that and then, you know, we can have a discussion. Maybe you need some body work. Maybe you need... um neuromuscular therapy, physical therapy, maybe osteopathy, or it doesn't matter. The point is that we need to just become more cognizant of this, that healing happens at multiple levels.
00:35:02
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And if an issue is related to a level higher, let's say again, like the example I gave, let's say the issue is at the mental body level, the third level, and it's manifesting as a physical symptom at the first level,
00:35:16
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We can do a lot of stuff at the physical level that could help for a while. But if we want true resolution, we need to figure out what is it at the at the third level, the mental body level, that is causing, contributing to this issue.
00:35:31
Speaker
that' That's just kind a very simple example. But I think you understand what I mean. So that that is the five levels of healing. Hope you enjoy this kind of deeper look at what we are. We're not just a bag of you know cells and water and and some minerals and enzymes.
00:35:51
Speaker
There's many more levels to us as humans, as beings rather. So at the physical level and the energy level, a lot of these things They kind of make sense because we can touch and measure them even though they, and for example, like ah and MRI, CAT scan, we're getting data on a screen and we're getting pictures or graphs of this.
00:36:13
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So we still have some kind of ability to conceptualize the stuff. But as we go to the third and higher levels, like the mental body, even a thought, what is a thought? Can you yeah actually draw a thought?
00:36:25
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These are things that... are occurring in our mind. And each one of us has a different view and conceptualization of what it is. So it gets a little bit more muddy as we go up the levels.
00:36:39
Speaker
But the point is that we should be able to at least begin thinking, maybe some of my thoughts, beliefs, and attitudes could be stressing my body. Maybe I'm putting myself in a stress state through my thoughts, beliefs, and attitudes.
00:36:54
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And if that's the case, we have coaches and we have various kinds of other therapists that can help us with that. okay So ending here, hope you enjoyed the video and keep going with the rest of the videos and I will see you on a coaching call very shortly, hopefully.