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Episode 64 - Toonstruck
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WHY DON’T THEY HAVE WRESTLING MATCHES IN PUMPKIN PATCHES!? This isn’t the set-up to a street joke, this is a genuine question that Matt has. Roses watched a fake movie starring Pamela Anderson and Liam Neeson. Matt played a “stealth team tactics game” with ghost pirates.
BUT the real story here is that PushingUpRoses and Matt replayed a classic game from their youths that features a live-acted Christopher Lloyd in a fully cartoon world. It’s called Toonstruck and it rules and the only bad thing about it is that they never released a sequel.
Email us! mattandroses@gmail.com
GAMES MENTIONED:
- The Naked Gun: I.C.U.P.
- Rusty Lake Series
- Shadow Gambit: The Cursed Crew
- Sword Game
- Toonstruck
- Grim Fandango
- Torin’s Passage
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Transcript
The Cookie Chronicles
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I'm so done with this uterus. Get it out of there. it out. Anyway, now I feel a little bit better because I was a responsible adult and I did my adulting and I would like a cookie.
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Do they offer one? No. And they didn't offer me a cookie when I gave blood work either. They just made sure I could spell my last name after they took it and then they sent me off. I'm like, okay, bye. Yeah.
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a Yeah, i when when was the last time? Oh, I got a cookie when I went to a fancy restaurant. What kind of cookie? Here, have two cookies. They didn't really say, but it was cinnamony and it had some cornmeal in it and it was really good.
00:00:42
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Cornmeal? Like a snickerdoodle maybe? Yeah, kind of like a snickerdoodle, but kind of like if yeah a snickerdoodle, but kind of shortbread-y with some cornmeal.
00:00:53
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That sounds good. hey what you it's really if you could call if you could name a cookie. Any name. Because come on, snickerdoodle? Really? You can just say anything. What would you name your cookie?
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Okay. Well, what was the what would be the ingredient list? Okay. So are we just starting with a snickerdoodle? What would you name a snickerdoodle? No, no, no. i'm gonna get Here, I'll give you a cookie. I'll give you like a list of ingredients. I don't know if they would work, but it'll give you the overall thing. Okay. All right. all right a cherries.
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Cherries. Okay. Cherries. Pistachio.
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soy milk, brown sugar, and, and corn flakes. What would I call cherry pistachio, soy milk, brown sugar, and corn flakes?
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If it could have been, if it could be all incorporated into a cookie. Yes. What would you Hell no. Hey, what would I name that cookie? A, a cherry nightmare.
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So you're saying you don't like my cookie idea. Okay. How about. All right. I'll give you one.
Diet Discussions and Pumpkin Spice
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Chocolate. Okay. Marzipan.
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Sprinkles. What the fuck? Cardamom. Love cardamom. And grape jelly. Ew.
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What the fuck, Matt? Name the cookie. Name the cookie. You have to name the cookie. This is the most gross thing I've ever heard my life. I would name it Purple Fusion.
00:02:28
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Whoa! Wow! Purple Fusion. i feel like all you did was take the very last ingredient. But hey, that's fine. yeah it needed And I fused it. It needed a name. It needed a name. Okay, give me one.
00:02:46
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Okay, this one's going to be good. This one's going to be good. okay Ready? Banana. Okay. chocolate pudding filling
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but hey a cake like consistency and you know what let's add some cookie crisp cereal keep adding cereal to these freaking cookies okay ah yeah okay banana I would call it banana fusion I'm good at naming stuff I would call it the
Slapstick Cinema and Nostalgia
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rumble in the jungle
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All right. All right. My turn. Almond flour. you I think we peaked there. at No, no, no. You have one more. You have one more. Almond flour. Almond flour. Okay. Wheat flour.
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Okay. Gluten flour. Okay. Rice flour. Jesus Christ. And sand. Okay.
00:03:53
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What the fuck, Matt? Name the cookie! I feel so disgusted right now. I would name it, it's a little it's a little long-winded, but I would name it a carb lover's day at the beach.
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Ha! Ha!
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It rolls right off the tongue. It's like Oreo, right? car flubber's day at the beach. Just like this ah this cookie would roll right off your tongue as it absorbs moisture.
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Hey everybody and welcome back, I assume, to save your game. I am one of your hosts. My name is Matt Allcamp and with me is the carb loving?
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The rumbler and the jungler. The rumbly.
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ah Pushing up roses. Hi. I had a carrot muffin today and I'm pretty stoked about it. That's pretty. That's carby. That's good. That's it is. That's like medium carby.
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It's medium carby. Yeah, because I only have one. I'm on, I'm doing a very low, not no carb, that's insane, but a low carb diet as I had just a little, some medical
Gaming and Multitasking Adventures
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relapse.
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My skin has never been so clear in my entire life. You want clear skin? Don't eat carbs, I guess. Well, sugar, mo me smoke you know mostly. but ah But I treat myself because you can't live in a world where you don't treat yourself.
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So today I had a carrot muffin and it was so good. It was so good. Or, you know, you could just be exactly me and then eat whatever to the hell you want and your skin somehow survives. Yeah.
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great i don't look i don't know i don't know it i don't understand i don't know it i eat so much sugar i'm drinking ah very sugary coffee right now i am drinking uh cold brew i'm on that plane i'm on that pumpkin spice kick already don't say that don't i'm already day those words to me already there because i can't have it you can't have it anymore i can I can replace, i can have it as a treat.
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Instead of a carrot muffin. Okay. So, well you could well, you could get some pumpkin spice, like the little, the that they sell, and you could eat healthy stuff and just sprinkle pumpkin spice on so like oh Pumpkin spice broccoli, pumpkin spice Brussels sprouts, pumpkin spice ah rice cakes.
00:06:49
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Oh, that actually wouldn't be bad. ah Yeah, that would actually that's a good one. All right. I'm going to go do that once we get off this recording. Pumpkin spice cookies, which will name rumble in the pumpkin patch. We are bad at this.
00:07:04
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I would love to see a wrestling match in a pumpkin patch where they I'm not a wrestling fan, but that would be so good. They're just smashing pumpkins over each other's head and stuff.
00:07:17
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They're throwing each other into pumpkins. And they play the smashing pumpkins. Billy Corgan is there. Their face pops through a pumpkin. Ah, man, that's so good. Did you know that Billy Corgan like owns a wrestling thing? What is it? He owns a wrestling thing.
00:07:33
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He's like a promoter. For real. It's wild, then, that he hasn't combined the smashing the name Smashing Pumpkins right with wrestling to do exactly what I'm talking about.
00:07:45
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I should email him and be like, hey... Listeners, I bet some of you are wrestling fans. You gotta tell me, and and maybe maybe they do and I just don't know about this, but you gotta tell me, why is there no more why isn't there more pumpkin smashing?
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Yeah, I want to know. what is it Is it a hygiene thing? Is it because gourds kind of rot a little bit? That makes it easier. You let the gourd rot a little bit, and then it just – then you just – it smashes on their head.
00:08:14
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One time i did a ah a comedy show. It was my my old variety show, and it was our first – edition. We started planning it in October and the first show
The Toonstruck Experience
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was December.
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So we did a bit where we did an onstage pumpkin carving contest and we told the audience like, look, we're really sorry about this. This was a really good idea when we had it back in October and we bought the pumpkins and now...
00:08:40
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Well, you'll see. And then we brought people from the audience up to carve completely rotten pumpkins that were falling apart as they tried to carve them. No.
00:08:52
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Very, i'm very proud of that bit. i it is as It is pumpkin season. I will be trying really hard to make a ceramic pumpkin.
00:09:03
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little ceramic jack-o'-lantern. That'd be fun. Are you excited for, i mean, okay, we're about a month away, so I don't want to get everyone too hyped up, but you're excited for the upcoming spooky season?
00:09:14
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Yes. So fucking stoked. I mean, it's every day is Halloween for me. that's just That's who I am. I'm like a resident of Halloween town, you know?
00:09:26
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Yeah. But of course, know, we do extra stuff for spooky season that we don't do normally, like a bunch of spooky games. and I'm excited for that. We have- next We've planned some of that out, and I am stoked for this year's spooky season. Yeah, it's going to be great.
00:09:41
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So, speaking of games, did you play any of this week? I didn't. I was extremely busy this week, um mostly doing medical stuff, but I did make some time to go see a movie at the... Whoa!
00:09:58
Speaker
Whoa, what? I need to know about this. What movie? ah The Naked Gun. Okay. Oh, the original. No. There's a new one? The original. The original Naked Gun.
00:10:09
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No. The new, like, legacy sequel or whatever Gun. I don't think that's real. With Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson? That sounds fake. Buster Rhymes is in it.
00:10:20
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You've got to admit that does sound fake, though. It does sound fake. It's weird it's a weird type of humor to bring back, but I loved it. i Listen, i love that type of humor. I love Hot Shots and Naked Gun and Police Academy. Anything eat that you could call wacky or silly.
00:10:38
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ah Just really silly humor is slapstick. um It was extremely slapstick. Yeah. This is Frank Drebin's son, by the way. That's the that's the setup here is that Frank Drebin had a son.
00:10:49
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And now and that son is 60 years old. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like taking over the police squad and all that. And any time. Oh, my God.
00:11:00
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you know how old Liam Neeson is? He's like 70. seventy Yeah. 73. mean, Leslie Nielsen was up there when he did naked gun. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. Anytime, anytime Liam Neeson is holding like a coffee on screen, which is all the time. Cause it's spoofing, you know, crime police.
00:11:20
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He just like throws it on the floor as hard as he can when he's done with it. I don't know why it cracked me up so hard. Yeah. So it was good. So you i were saying Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson did a good job. Yes, I think i think so.
00:11:37
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I really liked it. I thought the jokes were funny. They're very silly. Slapstick is not something I see used very often anymore. anymore It was a very 80s, early 90s thing.
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So to see that, to see like Liam Neeson... just bowling over ah bikers in the road and they're alive and they're just like, what the fuck? Like for no reason whatsoever.
00:12:01
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It's funny to me. It's very funny. Pamela Anderson did a really good job. She's a good actress, to be honest. I like Pamela Anderson a lot. I mean, she wasn't in the early 90s, which is how she became... mean, was doing Baywatch.
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Well, that's what I mean. and That's kind of how she became... the meme of a person that she is, yeah is that she she wasn't good Baywatch, but now she's had so many, many years to own her craft, which again,
00:12:35
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Feels weird to say about Pamela Anderson, but I do. but I would believe that she is good. She's, you know, she's definitely the the blonde that plays dumb.
00:12:46
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a lot of a lot of blonde bombshells did that. She's the smart blonde, Marilyn Monroe and ah Jane Mansfield and stuff like that. She's very smart. And it it was funny. It was so fun. It was so funny. I'm just rethinking.
00:12:59
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ah parts of that movie. But it made me so happy because I used to watch those kind of movies with my dad. We had a shared interest for slapstick. um I guess you could call a lot of Mel Brooks slapstick too. It's silly. It's just really goofy, right?
00:13:14
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And meta. So I was happy. I was happy to see it. It's not problematic. Some of those slapsticks are, let's be honest. yeah No judgment. I do like a lot of Mel Brooks films.
00:13:26
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I think even Mel Brooks would say some things haven't aged. Well, I don't think he's in denial about that or anything. um But yeah, no, it's it's modern, but it's still very slapstick. You will get your fix of silly things happening.
00:13:42
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I have to tell you something. Okay. There was a Naked Gun point and click adventure game. I hate it. It's called The Naked Gun, I-C-U-P.
00:13:55
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Oh, my God. Okay. It's cartoony, and it's published by Paramount Pictures. What is this? This is wild. It doesn't even look.
00:14:08
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It looks kind of like the later Leisure Suit Larrys. But a little like Frank Drebin, though. Oh, it says Frank Drebin, Frank Drebin Jr. again. Yeah, it it looks a little like the later Leisure Suit Larry's yeah style, but like a little less detailed.
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Is this a legit adventure? Yeah, it says point and click. Yeah, yeah and it it was released in, ah well was it, 2015, 2012? 2011. Yeah, so the the worst time, honestly, for point and Yes. Okay, well, how do I get this? i I think I need this, to be honest.
00:14:45
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Yeah, I think we both have to play this. We gotta play it. but beat By DNA Dynamics, who are a mobile game company that appear to only have done this. Oh, it's only an... and I didn't realize it's an Android game.
00:14:58
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Oh, is it? it's they didn't They don't have a Oh, iOS, Android. it says PC, but I don't know where you would get it. Naked Gun. I hate the name. i just.
00:15:09
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I mean, it's clearly in the tradition of Leisure Suit Larry, right? Like these are clearly Leisure Suit. Somebody said, hey check out the Leisure Suit Larry games. We want to do a Naked Gun like that. Yeah.
00:15:20
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Yeah. Oh, it is so strange looking. It really is. Like I found the trailer. Oh, yeah. It just looks insane to me. i'm gonna we're gonna Listen, guys, we're going to try to find this game.
00:15:31
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We're going to play this game. We'll keep you updated. I didn't i didn't find it on like ah just a rudimentary search, but we'll find it We will find it. We will play it. We will report back to you. Might do a video on it.
00:15:42
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I don't know. Oh my God. what Next. I'm so funny. What if we love it so much that we do a deep dive and next episode they see, here I'll give them a little spoiler about what we're talking about next episode. It'll say Callahan's Crosstime Saloon and the Naked Gun ICUP. The Naked ICUP. When they go to download their episode for the week, that is what they see in their podcast feed.
00:16:07
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I think that'd be amazing and very on brand for us. yeah Didn't we do like Harvester and Duck Detective in the same episode? We did.
00:16:16
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That's just how we roll. um What have you been up to, Matt? I assume you've played something. You're always playing a little bit of something. Yeah, I played a little bit of something. but I've been playing a little bit of the, like I said last episode, I've been going back and playing a little bit of the Rusty Lake games.
00:16:33
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And yeah they are more difficult than I remembered, but fun. But I've been playing a game from 2013 that's kind off-brand.
Unpacking Toonstruck's Narrative
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It is a yeah stealth team tactics game. Okay. Called, and it's about undead pirates called Shadow Gambit the Cursed Crew. Okay. and you play these, like, ghoulish dead pirates who each have special abilities, like the the first character you get can freeze time for one enemy at a time, or teleport across the battlefield to stab somebody.
00:17:14
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And the second guy I got, he can, you know, he can do a little whistle that brings everybody in its earshot hu to come check him out, check out, you know, what happened or ah he can set a token on the ground and then teleport to that token, say, if somebody's about to discover him or whatever.
00:17:35
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And you're doing these stealth missions. You're infiltrating yeah enemy forts and bases and stuff while trying to remain undetected.
00:17:46
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So there's, you know, sight cones and everything like that. And what is fun and kind of unique about this game, I don't know if it's unique. I've never played a stealth mission. ah tactics game before. But what's fun to me about this game is you can at any point pause it and set up a plan, which means you can select one character, select what action they're going to perform, then go to another character, select what action they're going to perform, and a third character and select what action they're going to perform. Or you can even sometimes select multiple actions, unpause, and they will all do
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Their actions at the exact same time. So if you need to take out three guys and it's like they're all looking at each other, you want that to all happen at once. Or, you know, one will set off an alarm when they see you kill their the friend.
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But you set it up so that everybody, you know, does their moves at once. And since they all have unique move sets, you can create these kind of elaborate battle scenes. Mm-hmm. um To solve what what are basically environmental puzzles to get, you know, get around these battlefields and take out all the guards.
00:18:53
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So it is a puzzly game. Puzzly in the way that a strategy game is puzzly, like a like a ah tactics game is puzzly. Puzzly in the way, say, Marvel Midnight Suns was puzzly. Sure, yeah.
00:19:07
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You ah see everything that's going on on a map and you say, okay, how can I use my guys and my powers to get across this map without being detected or to kill everybody on this map without any of them, again, detecting because stealth.
00:19:26
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So in that way, it's puzzly, but you can also, because it's an action game, right? You can also just kind of fudge it. Sure. So, yeah, that's what I've been playing. the The story doesn't seem all that compelling. The characters are kind of kind of cute.
00:19:45
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That seems more like a gameplay game than, like, compelling story, you know? Absolutely. And sometimes I just, sometimes I'll just click through cut scenes. I'll be, like, listening to an audio book while I'm playing this. And then a cut scene comes up and i'm like should I pause the audio book?
00:20:02
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Nah.
00:20:04
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Like, there's two things to to to stimulate my brain happening at the same time. yeah And I think the audiobook is going to be a little more stimulating than whatever this game has to ah tell me about pirates seeking out...
00:20:20
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Occult treasures to yeah unlock the soul gems or whatever. Oh, the soul gems. I listen to music when I play the old um parser games that don't have any music. So if i'm you know if I boot up King's Quest just for a little bit of nostalgia, I'll just listen to music.
00:20:37
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And Stardew Valley, honestly, since it's not voiced. yeah um It depends on if I want to hear the Stardew music or not. It's lovely. ah So sometimes I do want to hear it. but Yeah. If I'm just farming a bunch, I, you know, put on the offspring or something.
00:20:52
Speaker
Right. And this game has fair, fairly, this game is good enough music. So, but yeah today I was listening to, The new Beth's album and the new Sabrina Carpenter album, which released on the same day.
00:21:07
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i didn't even know. I'm so behind and old. beth's The Beth's rule. And Sabrina Carpenter is pretty cool, I guess. So i was listening to them today while I was playing Shadow Gambit, The Cursed Crew.
00:21:22
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Why are games named this way? i know. i know. I'm getting upset. i I would like to see more games just called one syllable. Like word names.
00:21:33
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Pirate. That's two. Well, there's already that's already a game. Plus it's two syllables. Oh, one syllable. One syllable Sword. Yeah, like sword. Sword.
00:21:44
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there Is there name? Is there a game named sword? don't think so. That'd be silly. Sword game. Well, okay. Sword game isn't going to get it for me. No, it's not.
00:21:57
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All right, Rezzy. There is a game called Half Sword. just want to. I just want to that. Half sword. What are we talking about today? roses? Swords.
00:22:08
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Okay, yeah, so when did you get your first sword? When you get your first sword? Well, when I was a child. No, we're talking about Toonstruck today. What? I love Toonstruck.
00:22:20
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i hope i dude It was the first game review I put out on my YouTube channel. I started with Toonstruck. I went hard. I started tough. Well, why don't we throw on Fluxy Wilderino, and we'll come back in a minute and talk about Toonstruck.
00:22:38
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Toonstruck. Remember how he says it like that? He does say it funny.
00:23:03
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Hey everyone, welcome back to Save Your Game. i am one of your co-hosts. Why do I keep saying it like that? That's like the fifth time I've... Okay, I am one of your hosts, pushing up roses, and with me as always, the equally important host, Matt Aukamp. Hey Matt.
00:23:23
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No, I got demoted to co-host. Oh, okay. I'm the main host. handsome ah Hanson Swanson decided. he might switch his He might change his mind again next week.
00:23:36
Speaker
I can't believe you blew the budget on this guy. he Yeah, and he just and he does stuff like this. He just arbitrarily decides our job titles. And we're like, we're doing the exact same thing we've always done.
00:23:49
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and he's like, nope, you're a host and you're co-host now.
00:23:54
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But i did i did look at i did look ahead at his his his calendar, and he has switch Matt to host and Roses to co-host next yeah next episode.
00:24:04
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I'm going to fire this guy. I don't even know what it means. I don't know what i don't know what he thinks this means. He's doing SEO stuff, you know? he thinks I think he thinks if he, like, it's like ah like a TV show or a comic book, and if he shakes up the cast, yeah get ratings will improve.
00:24:23
Speaker
No, that's how it works. That's not how podcasts work. No. No. We locked, it's it's fine. He's in his basement right now. He can't, I assume he cannot hear us.
00:24:33
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No, he can't hear us. here's a little behind the scenes fact. We just lost some of our recording. Yeah. Welcome to podcasts. Welcome to podcasts. We're going to be repeating ourselves and it's going to be weird for the next, I guess, 15 minutes.
00:24:49
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Here's the thing. I'm going to try to say exactly what I said before about Toonstruck because that's what we're talking about. And I'll try to react as if I haven't heard any of it before. Yeah. that Matt, you're a good actor. You got this.
00:25:03
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I'm going to even set up. going to do the same bits that we did here. Ready? Yeah. Hey, Roses, how would you describe Toonstruck in one sentence? Shit, I don't remember what I said. hang on.
00:25:17
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Toonstruck. I remember exactly what I said. Toonstruck is a zany, weird, But well done. no, no.
00:25:28
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No, I did it like this. Zany, weird, yeah and well done. Toonstruck is romp, a fun romp of a point and click adventure game.
00:25:39
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That's what I said. I think that was very, if that's not what you said, that's incredibly close. Yeah, it's very close. Mine was, it's my favorite game with a slider puzzle in it.
00:25:54
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which is ridiculous, ah said no one. yeah um And I think I followed that with, ah and and I'm going to start explaining to Instruct, but before I do, there are logic puzzles in this game very randomly. It's not one of those things where you're playing an adventure game and there's like one slider puzzle moment and you're just like, why is this here?
00:26:13
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yeah it they They do put in quite a few. it is inventory object base. It is point and click, but just every now and then, You'll get like that slider puzzle or the the color coordinated, um what's it called? The phone puzzle. If you've played it, you if you know, you know.
00:26:29
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Yeah. But I'm just going to go ahead and and give people the breakdown that I was giving very well. I was giving it very, very, very well, just so you guys know, about what Toonstrike is about.
00:26:42
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Are we ready? I'm ready to hear it again. Okay. So to instruct point and click adventure game from 1996. This is a live acted FMV game, full motion video, ah over top an animated background. So think of who framed Roger Ravage or as Matt succinctly put it, a Space Jam. It's it's it really is a lot like Space Jam.
00:27:09
Speaker
Well, right. So, like, it is krista it's Space Jam, but with Christopher Lloyd and, well, and no basketball. No basketball. I don't know how we got here. So in case we don't set it up the same way this time, I'm just going to say i was just gonna say my observation about Space Jam, which is that Michael Jordan completely undersells what is happening to him in that moment. Like, okay, he's living his life.
00:27:37
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He's playing basketball. And then all of a sudden, fucking Bugs Bunny appears. Cartoon character, Bugs Bunny appears in his life and pulls him through a hole. And now suddenly he's in, and like, every concept he's ever had about physics, about reality, about and the nature of the earth is shattered in an instant.
00:28:05
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And you know what he says? What? What? He looks at Bugs Bunny and he says, what's going on here? Listen, this is more of a flaw in acting, I think. Michael Jordan is not a good actor.
00:28:21
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And so like, yeah, it's he it's very, he seems way too normal to. What's going on here? Yeah, that's not ah an appropriate response to being thrown in a toon world.
00:28:35
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Christopher Lloyd has a slightly better one in Toonstruck. he he does panic for a second. Yeah. For like a second. but Yeah. But then a lot of stuff happens to him really quickly. And he's just stoked to see his... you keep All right. all right. all Yeah. Let me give you... Let me continue the breakdown. So you are playing a character named Drew Blank.
00:28:54
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You are an artist. You are being played by Christopher Lloyd. It's amazing. And your character of Drew Blank is – Get it? Yeah. Do you get it? Do you get it?
00:29:06
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He works for – He drew a blank. And also, he works in cartoons. And he works in cartoons. So his name is – his last name is blank, like Mel Blank.
00:29:19
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who ho Who voiced a bunny. Voiced a bunny. And there's bunnies. And there's bunnies. ah Yeah, so you you are working for a company that does a show called the Fluffy Fluffy Bun Bun Show. You draw extremely saccharine, cute, syrupy bunnies. They're very adorable.
00:29:39
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ah And you're kind of you're kind of sick of it, but it's it's you don't really have any control over what your boss does. Your boss is played by Ben Stein for some reason. Yeah. He's the one who's telling you to draw a ton of bunnies. And so you go back to your drawing desk and kind of think like, man, I had this amazing idea for a character named Flux Wildly.
00:30:01
Speaker
And that was his like original character that he had a whole world for. And before you know it, he kind of falls asleep. He wakes up to his television on showing the Fluffy Fluffy Bun Bun show, which is a very obnoxious show. Do not recommend.
00:30:16
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um Suddenly he is pulled through the screen by Flux Wildly. And now you are in this world that you created. Essentially, you are in the Toonstruck world with Flux Wildly, Fluffy Fluffy Bun Bun.
00:30:31
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um It's a whole setting. It's a whole thing. And yeah, you react slightly like, oh my God. But to be honest, he's pretty okay with it. Maybe he's just so pleased to see Flux, you know, his his yeah original creation.
00:30:47
Speaker
um I would be too. Flux Wildly is a great little character. you guys yeah He's yeah. He rivals Max for good sidekick in an adventure game.
00:30:59
Speaker
Nobody rivals Max for me. Nobody. I love that character. But yeah, you start out in a world called Qtopia. It is called that because everything is fucking adorable.
00:31:11
Speaker
Everything. um You run into Fluffy Fluffy Bun Bun at some point. Well, actually, the first thing you do is you go see the land has a king. Don't know why, but King Hugh.
00:31:23
Speaker
He looks like um a lemon head, like a very happy lemon head. he's saying that there's this awful villain named Count Nefarious, who is like essentially de-cutifying the world with with something called a malevolator.
00:31:39
Speaker
So everything that was once cute is now creepy and weird, which I think is great. I think everything looks much better in a creepy way, but that's just me. But this is cutopia. It's not cutopia.
00:31:51
Speaker
Yeah, there's balance. There's better. There's got to be a balance. there There needs to be a balance. So you agree to help make a cutifier. The cutifier machine is going to change everything back that once was crazy and, you know, malevolent.
00:32:08
Speaker
Unfortunately, this cutifier, got to solve some puzzles to get the things needed. And this is where it's just, I was confused by this as a kid. I'm not today, but the cutifier ingredients are amazing.
00:32:22
Speaker
It's word matching puzzles that you match up with inventory items. Yes. So the that the example they give you is sugar there's a sugar in the cutifier.
00:32:35
Speaker
And so you add – or there's spice in the cutifier. So you add sugar. Right. And then you have sugar and spice. yeah And then you have – And then next to it is, say, a dagger.
00:32:46
Speaker
And so you know you have to add a cloak to the cutifier device. I think what was confusing about that, though, is I think in the game, um the engineer who is, ah ah i think, a dodo bird. He is a dodo bird.
00:33:01
Speaker
an absent-minded dodo bird. It's very cute. ah can't find yeah The first puzzle in the game is you have to find him help him find his glasses. yeah And you talk to... The footman who is a foot.
00:33:15
Speaker
With only three, like four toes. He's missing a toe. It's harrowing. And he tells you, hey, have you asked the, ah have you his name's Brickabrack, the dodo scientist.
00:33:29
Speaker
And he's like, have you asked Brickabrack to check his pocket? And you go back and ask Brickabrack, his glasses in his pocket the whole time. Yes, correct. So Brickabrack tells us, I swear he says this, that you need like opposite things.
00:33:47
Speaker
But these word pairings for these inventory objects, they're not opposites to me. Sugar and spice is not opposite necessarily. Or there's like there's like a bell and so would be bells and whistles. Like that's right that's what you need. and and i'm like And I'm like, is that an opposite?
00:34:01
Speaker
I don't know if it is. Yeah, I don't think it's opposites. Yeah, i i he might say opposites. There's a very good chance he does, but it's just it's just word pairings.
00:34:12
Speaker
It's just like common word pairings. And I remember being incredibly confused about some of these when I was a kid. like were There's one heart.
00:34:25
Speaker
And so the the word pairing is heart and soul. and i first of all, I didn't know that fucking turn of phrase when I was a little kid. I don't know and know how it passed me by. I didn't know the phrase heart and soul.
00:34:38
Speaker
But I also didn't know that there was a type of fish called a soul. Right. You didn't know the song Heart and Soul by Huey Lewis in the news? I guess not. But she's heart and soul.
00:34:50
Speaker
The other thing I didn't know, and this one is frustrating, was frustrating to me as a kid on a lot of levels. There's one, there's polish in the machine.
00:35:01
Speaker
And so the thing is spit and polish. But first of all, that's backwards. Right. You're looking for, if there's a spit in the thing and it was like spit and polish, maybe it'd be a little easier because that's the phrase.
00:35:14
Speaker
Right. but But polish and spit makes it a little harder. Second of all, I didn't know that phrase at all. I like barely knew that phrase as an adult. Like when I ever saying that or coming across that? Yeah. Some of them are really hard.
00:35:28
Speaker
Fucking like army and you have to quick shine your boots before inspection. You're not going to know the phrase spit and polish. And it's weird. I didn't know there was a thing called a spit that was used for roasting meat.
00:35:41
Speaker
Right. No, really, really hard. Like even even if you know the word pairing, even if you know it's hard in Soul, the Soul is a fish.
00:35:53
Speaker
It's a fish, yeah. It's yeah it's ah and the fish not an easy game. is hard to get. that is there's There's a lot of minigames in this, as you yeah as you said. And that is a minigame where you have to... There's a... Okay.
00:36:08
Speaker
So the third land that you didn't mention um that I'm sure you were getting to is where Flux Wildly is from called Zanydew. And so you have the evil. These are the three aspects of cartoons, I guess.
00:36:23
Speaker
The cute. The nefarious. And the wacky. I don't think I actually named the land. It's the Malevolands. The Malevolands. Yeah, that's where Count Nefarious is, who is voiced by Tim Curry, of course. You got a villain that needs to be played?
00:36:39
Speaker
You ask Tim Curry. ah And also, Tress McNeil ah voices a lot of these characters. She voices Fluffy Fluffy Bun Bun, one of my favorite voiceover artists of all time. She's on The Simpsons a lot.
00:36:52
Speaker
she's Speaking of The Simpsons. Oh, go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say she famously does the cat lady, which cracks me up every time I see that. why Okay, why are cats so weird looking in The Simpsons?
00:37:05
Speaker
They're like the weirdest looking things, like in the world of The Simpsons, right? Like even the dog, Santa's little helper, he looks like a Simpson. The cats look insane.
00:37:17
Speaker
Anyway, that's my little... don't know why i went there. Well, speaking of The Simpsons, Dan Castellaneta voices for Lux Wildly.
00:37:27
Speaker
Yes. And Jim Cummings voices a few people. I think he might voice Brickabrack. This is very, um ah very professionally voiced video game.
00:37:39
Speaker
And professionally animated. The animations in this game are really good. They are really good. Yeah. Yeah, they are very Don Bluth inspired.
00:37:52
Speaker
And and you know i would also say maybe Hanna-Barbera. There's like a wolf character that reminds me very much of like the old Hanna-Barbera stuff. And, you know, a lot of it. So not only are you Christopher Lloyd walking around this world.
00:38:07
Speaker
FMV video captured. Yeah.
00:38:13
Speaker
yeah Which, think screen look up some screenshots from Toonstruck if you've never played it. It's very funny to see Christopher Lloyd just standing in the middle of a cartoon. Yeah. A weird cartoon world.
00:38:25
Speaker
But... It doesn't always work. But since you spend so much time in this world... You get so used to it. You get used to it. There's kind of a lot of backtracking.
00:38:35
Speaker
So you just get used to this weird kind of artifacted Christopher Lloyd just lumbering about. He's like beautiful, like painterly backgrounds. It's wild.
00:38:47
Speaker
So ah all the the characters are that kind of pixely cartoon art that you, so like maybe a little, i like a step up from say Day of the Tentacle or something.
00:38:59
Speaker
Yeah. um Maybe like a little more high def than that. But the the pixels are very evident. When it cuts to cut scenes, they're just fully animated.
00:39:11
Speaker
Very cinematic. Yes.
00:39:15
Speaker
But this this brings kind of my first critique. Yeah, yes. Sorry, I forgot to finish my thing about the fish. So in Xanadu, there is a giant toilet, which you have to saw solve a few. Well, there's a giant building housing a regular toilet, which you have to solve series of puzzles to get into. and once you finally get there, it's a toilet with this big, like,
00:39:43
Speaker
apparatus above it and what you find out is it it's illegal to use the toilet in zany do for anything but flushing fish yes and the way you use a toilet is you flush a fish to get a fish it's like you give a penny take a penny or some junk right Yes.
00:40:02
Speaker
And so you flush a fish and then a bunch of fish just like shoot through this tank above the toilet. And you don't know what they are until you flush and you get your new fish.
00:40:17
Speaker
But you ah you eventually you have to stop. You have to time it right and stop on the so ah soul. Yeah. um So it could be if you don't know what a soul is or you haven't made the connection heart and soul and fish soul.
00:40:31
Speaker
your brain is really not going to. It's not going to go there. It's not going to go there. You're not going to make any connection between this toilet, this weird toilet thing.
00:40:42
Speaker
And you're just going to end up like you're going to walk around and use your puffer fish on everything. Yeah. And it doesn't work. And doesn't I don't fucking know. at the very least, I mean, this this puzzle is insane. But at the very least, when you get the wrong fish, because it kind of goes little fast, there is like a little timing dynamic. Like you said, you have to make sure you stop on the soul fish.
00:41:06
Speaker
um If you do get the wrong fish, Flux will be like, you can do better than that. And when you get the right fish, Flux will be like, yay. So at least there's some reinforcement to kind of put you. It's still hard to get the heart and soul connection.
00:41:21
Speaker
Sure. That's still crazy. but So i just I just replayed this game this week. And there are two fishes that they celebrate you getting.
00:41:33
Speaker
No. Yes. don't remember what the other is. I've played this so many times that I know where to stop. Like, I don't need to, like, I just know what to do. So I didn't fuck up.
00:41:46
Speaker
So the Pufferfish missile? not No, the Pufferfish, I think, is... is you can do better than that. And the swordfish is you can do better than that. But that other one that kind of slinks along the bottom very fast, and it's like, eoo i don't know i don't know what I don't know what the fish is. I can't remember. But that one, you also get theyd also like the alarms and ah like the, you win, bells go off. And you ah Flux says, you win.
00:42:18
Speaker
Though I think maybe, I think maybe, don't know this for sure, but I think maybe once you get the soul, you can't use the toilet anymore. Okay. So maybe so there maybe that's the hint.
00:42:32
Speaker
Gosh, that makes it so much harder, though, than I even realized. Like I said, i I already knew what to get because I know the game pretty well. So I never – I didn't fuck up. I just got the soul and and went about the gameplay.
00:42:43
Speaker
I knew I was looking for a soul, but I didn't know which one of those fish the soul was when it was just, like, flying through the bowl. Anyway – Very strange. Like that is such a strange. If you're listening to this, like what the fuck? There's a toilet that you flush fish and then get fit. Like, yes, this whole game is strange like that.
00:43:03
Speaker
Yeah. Um, it it is Yes, it is. And i I do think the puzzles fall kind of in line with where you are on the map. So if you're doing like utopia puzzles, they're a little more grounded, like fluffy, fluffy bun bun wants popcorn. And that is what she wants.
00:43:18
Speaker
You have to find her popcorn. And then you get to zany do. And you're just doing a bunch of shit. You're putting butter on some gym equipment. You're flushing fish around.
00:43:30
Speaker
You're... don't know if this was Cutopia or not. Something with a squirrel. But no, think that was Cutopia. Well, that's like... Yeah, the border between the Malevolence and Cutopia. There's kind of like an angry squirrel up in the tree, which I think we're supposed to believe is like...
00:43:50
Speaker
He is a Malevolent squirrel. and Right. Who is on a Cutopia tree. Yes. um And so, like, it's so I think, yeah, I think all the puzzles kind of fall in line. I'm not saying all the puzzles from Qtopia were great, but ZanyD was crazy.
00:44:10
Speaker
And in the Malevolent lands, you're ruining people's lives. Actually, you ruin a lot of people's lives in this game. um But, like, and this was a difficult puzzle is you need to win a bowling trophy.
00:44:26
Speaker
So in order in order to do that, you have to glue ah bear's hands to a bowling ball. So he throws himself down the bowling lane and gets knocked out.
00:44:42
Speaker
ah And then there's there's more to that puzzle. But you also have to explode a robot by reading him impossible puzzles. You throw an anvil on someone.
00:44:56
Speaker
Well, that, so that is in, yeah, so that's early on. That's in the Utopia Castle. But it's it is another example of us ruining somebody's life entirely. you want to tell people about that?
00:45:08
Speaker
Oh, about the anvil? Yeah. Listen, guys, it had to be done. ah There's this footman in the castle ah in the shape of a foot with only four toes.
00:45:19
Speaker
I don't really understand. All the toes have faces on them. Just go ahead and look Google image so you know what I'm talking about. We need to get rid of him. He is in the way. Seriously, he's in the way.
00:45:34
Speaker
the way we get rid of him is we call him down. Like he's he's like a servant to the king. So he'll respond to like, what is it, a bell or an alarm or something? And yes, we get him into this little room. We we Feather and tar him first, which is humiliating enough.
00:45:54
Speaker
And you don't, as the player, you don't know this is going to happen. You just think you're making him fall through the floor. Right. we It just seems like we're maybe trapping him. Yeah. Kind of like the the butler in Grim Fandango. We put him in a teeny tiny room. That's how he says it. It's really cute. Hello, Mrs. Teeny Tiny Room.
00:46:16
Speaker
and But for some reason, he doesn't just fall to the floor. He gets tarred and feathered. And and then an anvil falls on him. And I'm not sure if we killed him or not. Here's the thing, though.
00:46:31
Speaker
Do toons die? is this ah Is this a Toon? Is this a Who Framed Roger Rabbit thing? Do toons actually die? Well, I think we can say if he's not dead, there's no way...
00:46:46
Speaker
Like he is going to be, we have done something horrible to this man.
00:46:52
Speaker
Yes. Yes. Yes. It is one of those kind of point and click games where some of the humor is again, you're some, some of the humor and some also of just like the,
00:47:05
Speaker
It's not even it's not necessarily some of it's not even remarked on is you're just going around ruining everybody's lives. Yeah. One of the very funny riffs on this, though, is you the back to that bowling puzzle.
00:47:21
Speaker
All you do is you win the trophy. And it makes the bowling attendant just sob uncontrollably. Because he was like the only one who could get a strike. And now we got a strike.
00:47:33
Speaker
And do you remember how he got a strike? I don't. don't he And then he the bowling ball up his butt and then fires the bowling ball out of his butt. Oh, cool. Yeah. Awesome. ah Sounds about right.
00:47:46
Speaker
Although a lot of these cut scenes are short and incredibly well animated and and really, really pleasant. I do have to say the mid game cut scene.
00:47:58
Speaker
the final cut scene and the beginning cut scene are each 10 to 15 minutes long. Yes. I was actually shocked. I, I, and like I said, I played this game several times.
00:48:09
Speaker
I would go out on a whim and say, there's probably more dialogue and cinematic moments than there is actually doing puzzles. That's what, that's what adds length to this game to me is how much talking there is, how much animation there is.
00:48:24
Speaker
and, And also, this is not for kids. I want to make that straight. It's not even really for, like, adolescents. I think this is an adult game, like, through and through.
00:48:36
Speaker
um Like a lot of adult cartoons, right? Like The Simpsons or Family Guy. But it looks like if you see this in a store as a kid... You're going to be like, that looks awesome because it looks like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, a PG rated film.
00:48:50
Speaker
That is exactly what happened to me. ah so I saw you. so You told me the one of the recording in the recording that we lost, you told me you found this game on Home of the Underdogs. I found it in a store on a shelf.
00:49:03
Speaker
And I thought. This looks like the coolest game I've ever seen in my entire life. Yes. Yes.
00:49:13
Speaker
but I'm still playing it today. I'm still playing it today. It's a great, it's a great game. 30 years later. I do need people to know that it is a little bit of a crude game. It is that kind of adult style animation. There are very adult jokes, you know, references to sexual things and um murder, you know, very slapstick in the way that kind of goes beyond, you know, it kind of goes into gros gross out humor.
00:49:40
Speaker
Would you agree? Yeah, I agree. I agree. It does all sorts of humor, though. like I also want to say that makes this game almost sound not funny. This game is funny. This game this one is yeah legitimately funny. Flux wildly follows you around throughout the whole game. He's your he's your little buddy, and he is your sidekick, like Sam and Max.
00:50:03
Speaker
Or who's in a Torrin's Passage? the the oh It's not a Moogle. I still never played that game. Oh, shit. I assumed that was Torrin. No, Torrin's the human. He has like a little cat. Oh, so he's the passage.
00:50:17
Speaker
Yeah, he's the passage. In Torrin's passage, he is the passage. Yeah, so it's a Torrin and his passage walking around. Glad we got that on the way.
00:50:28
Speaker
So, ah yeah, I mean, there's a bondage scene in this game, but it's just remembering some of the other very adult stuff in this game.
00:50:38
Speaker
But... to Flux wildly walks around with you and comments on everything and it is so funny he breaks the reality in so many different ways like there eventually is a puzzle where you have to use closets and dressing rooms and stuff to hide from some henchmen which I want to talk about because they are the coolest looking things in the world um yeah they're pretty cool but If you go into those closets and dressing rooms and stuff before that puzzle comes up, just to see what happens.
00:51:17
Speaker
Yeah. Drew, Blank, and Flux, they just go in, they stand there for a minute, and then they come out. But the second or third time you do it, ah Flux pauses for a minute and says,
00:51:30
Speaker
Boy, we sure have fun, don't we,
00:51:38
Speaker
There's other times, where because it's a point and click game, you're doing absolutely absurd things all the time. yeah And every now and then, Flux will be like, Drew, what are you doing? And he'll like, oh, I was just using this ah oh it's just using this cotton candy to make a toy bunny or whatever. yeah i And he's like,
00:51:58
Speaker
And you thought this would help what?
00:52:04
Speaker
ah Or other times it's the exact opposite. Drew will be doing a perfectly normal thing and Flux will be like that, like making fun of him because that's not the rules of the toon world. Right, right.
00:52:15
Speaker
Just it's those are very specific examples. But most of the time Flux is just following you around making wisecracks and it's. Yeah. you know Or you're using him for a puzzle. 60% of the time, very funny.
00:52:29
Speaker
Yeah. I do have some critique, and this is a critique on old live-acted games. Sure. For whatever reason, it's like the editors couldn't get this shit right. So my one of my best examples, and you can find my Phantasmagoria review on my channel, is...
00:52:50
Speaker
They do not know when to cut scenes. They'll just go on for fucking ever with awkward silences, stayed in there, pauses. It's a little bit better in this game because it's Christopher Lloyd acting. So at least he's doing something, but he'll be, he'll be having like, they'll film like a reaction shot. Right. Cause you know, just, just like who framed Roger rabbit, the actor has to react to the things around him. So he's doing all these different reactions and expressions with his face.
00:53:16
Speaker
He'll like mug for five seconds too long We're like too cornerly and and yeah it doesn't even match what like what's happening. yeah I'm like, this is insane. Why didn't we... Somebody edited this.
00:53:30
Speaker
There's a... and So I agree, but I do also want to say often Christopher Lloyd's acting is really good. it's Yeah, it's interesting. He makes very broad, big, cartoony expressions about stuff that happens.
00:53:46
Speaker
Yeah. It's almost like he's purposefully... doing bad acting, which is really hard to do, by the way, if you've ever, if if you've ever seen somebody pretend like they're a bad actor, that's a tough thing to do.
00:54:01
Speaker
um But yeah, you're right. It's very exaggerated. It almost looks like fake, but it's not, it's just Christopher Lloyd doing this crazy role, you know, in Toonstruck.
00:54:12
Speaker
um But it is, like I said, it is upon like replaying it, It is so dialogue heavy. And it took so long just to get through. And that that's part of the gameplay, to be honest, is is talking to people. and that's, I think, part of the feat of what this game is. you know You're not just doing point and clicks. You are kind of appreciating these characters, almost like watching a cartoon, you know? Yeah. i I did enjoy most of the dialogue.
00:54:44
Speaker
yeah um There's also... It's just to talk about the mechanics really quick. It's a single, it's it's a dual verb. but You right click to look at something, you left click to use something. And the cursor will change into the verb that you can do with any specific object.
00:55:03
Speaker
Yeah. um Which is, i think, an early example of that mechanic ah in a point and click game. Okay. But also...
00:55:15
Speaker
it's it's It's a thing where you can't click to get through. cut like Clicking doesn't skip dialogue. The space bar does.
00:55:27
Speaker
And right neither the spacebar nor clicking skips cutscenes. Escape does. So this might have felt intuitive in 1996 when this game came out.
00:55:40
Speaker
But now that things have been so perfected in in that way, yeah I didn't realize I could skip dialogue until about an hour into this game, this playthrough.
00:55:51
Speaker
Yeah. i know when i was like When I had replayed few years ago to stream it, I figured that out immediately. i just like, we need to keep this moving, guys. Because, know, it is very long-winded. And yes, mostly I do like the voice acting, but some of it can get pretty obnoxious.
00:56:08
Speaker
Yeah, sure. Fluffy Bun Bun can get to be a bit much. Even the guards outside of Hugh's castle, who are very adorable, even they can be like, blah.
00:56:20
Speaker
and So... Here's something I want to do. i want to talk a little bit about the story and then the potential sequel. But first, let's run through some of our favorite characters. Who are you some your favorites? This is a game where every character has a full...
00:56:38
Speaker
They're not just bodies and tools for solving puzzles. Each of them have like a full personality and usually ah ki me and a and great looks.
00:56:50
Speaker
Yeah. So who are some of your favorites? um i I really like the henchman character at the seedy bar.
00:57:02
Speaker
Oh, a weird monster with like overly grown. i just you know. what She's just mostly a face. Yeah, she's I just love her design, and she's voiced by Tress McNeil.
00:57:13
Speaker
um I like that care. I like the care crow a lot. and that That was going to be my first. The care crow is great. talk but i would Tell me about the care crow. I was devastated when he got malevolated. In my notes, yeah. you When you finally give the care crow the thing he's been looking for forever, and the first time you play this game, it takes some trial and error.
00:57:34
Speaker
At least it did when I was a kid. he gives you a set of... You have a ticket to ah get a free costume from the costume shop.
00:57:45
Speaker
And he has a set of... What's the word? Like parameters. Like they need to fit these details. like So it can't look like this. It's got to look like this.
00:57:58
Speaker
And a lot of them are... um A lot of them are wordplay too. A lot of this game. That's true. The puzzles are solved through wordplay. or or through interpreting wordplay physically. It's so cute when you finally give him his costume. He like love he like loves it so much.
00:58:15
Speaker
And then he gets malevolated into an equally cute but scary but scary scarecrow. it is But it is that is an absolutely heartbreaking moment.
00:58:26
Speaker
It's awful. Yeah. I love ah Feedback, Goggles, and Lugnut. Lugnut? Lugnut, or maybe all of them, are played by Rob Paulson. Rob Paulson. It's Yakko from Animaniacs. And Pinky from Pinky and the Brain. Yes, yes.
00:58:43
Speaker
So they They're from the Malevolands, and they are the They are rough sketches of cartoon characters before details are filled in.
00:58:57
Speaker
Yes. They are pencil. They are pencil sketches of like body shapes and limb shapes. And as if, as if when you buy like a drawing book,
00:59:10
Speaker
like how to draw cartoons or comic books as a kid. These are, this is like step three before you start filling in. Before it's like draw the entire owl, draw the rest of the owl rather. Yeah, yeah exactly.
00:59:23
Speaker
um These are like the blocky outlines of what you want the character shape to be. And all each of them is missing a sense and so has a gadget for it. So Lugnut can't hear. So he's got like a helmet with a big ear on it.
00:59:37
Speaker
Goggles can't see so he's got these fake eyes attached to goggles and um feedback can't hear or can't speak sorry so he's got a yeah megaphone with a mouth.
00:59:51
Speaker
It's really cool looking yeah. um It's great. I also really liked the the costume shop owner character. She is both ditz and smart at the stage. She's a ditz that likes to read.
01:00:04
Speaker
She yeah loves books, but she also loves fashion. I'm like, I love this character. This character and her voice is great. They all have good voices. Like I said, this is a professionally voiced game.
01:00:16
Speaker
There's a great scene with that coffee shop owner where – because she seems like a ditz and she's supposed to be – yeah, she's supposed to be like a hot ditz. Flux starts flirting with her and he's like, so what do you read? And I love books. And she's like, oh my god, ah you love books?
01:00:31
Speaker
I love books too. We should go – and Flux is like, we should go back to your place and talk about books. And she's like, I'd love to. And then she goes on to say – how most of the guys she meets don't love books and they're shallow and they just pretend to love books but then she can tell within minutes of spending time with them that they're just faking and flux is like oh actually drew we have to yeah we have to go i do like in the in the beginning of that when he starts flirting um Drew Blank is like, dont i don't know what you're thinking, but don't.
01:01:06
Speaker
but yeah Whatever you think is going to happen is not going to happen. ah Yeah. i love the i don't I don't love Warp and Wolf, but I love their character design. I like i was going to say the same thing. like I like their character design a lot, but I kind of don't like...
01:01:25
Speaker
that That whole thing. Whatever's going on in that shop, I don't like it. There's sort of a... Very Ren and Stimpy. Classic dog and cat Ren and Stimpy or, you know... I'm drawing a blank, but I know there's a thousand others. A drew blank! Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. So sorry. Hmm.
01:01:47
Speaker
ah The dog and dog and cat cartoon teams where it's like a silent, kind of dumb, laughing cat and a... yeah vociferous oh dog question yeah but their their character designs are just so cool like they're just so cute and rad um and of course flux wildly is amazing Yeah.
01:02:11
Speaker
I also like very, very brief character, you guys. But I love this little mouse, this little troublesome mouse is just extremely mischievous. His design is just so cute and he's very good at dancing. He's good at doing a jig.
01:02:28
Speaker
He runs around fast. fucking up everything but if you play the piano he gets very serious yes and does this dance where he just kind of stomps back and forth i stomp too so but i am that mouse His eyes narrow and his fists ball up and he just does the stomping dance.
01:02:50
Speaker
And he's so into it that like that's how you solve the puzzle is that he can't he can't perceive anything else because he just he's focused. Because he's into the music. you You bop him on the head and then you don't kill him, which is great. you But you do use the mouse later for a different puzzle.
01:03:07
Speaker
Let's talk about characters maybe because like I said, some of this can get obnoxious. Are there characters you were just like, I don't want to talk to this character again. i really don't.
01:03:18
Speaker
Yes. Okay. one is the guard. At the castle? Yeah, I can't. yeah as His name is Snout, and he's a pig, and it's just a big snot joke. Oh, I'm sorry. You mean the Malevolent's castle, not the- Oh, yes.
01:03:36
Speaker
Not in the malevol armadillo. Correct. In the Malevolent's castle, there's a- There's a guard who's like a warthog. His name is Snout. And he's just a big snot joke. It's awful. I hate it.
01:03:48
Speaker
You're right. It's really bad. And I was like cringing. And I was just like, I just need to get through this puzzle. I got locked up a second time. and no. And you solved the puzzle in a similar way.
01:03:59
Speaker
But I was like, fucking God, I have to be near this character again. Please don't. It's... There's some gross-out humor I don't mind, but when it's snot-related, not big on that.
01:04:11
Speaker
I'd rather not. ah who Who's one for you? it's It's fluffy, fluffy bun bun, unfortunately. And like I said, I love Truss McNeil. I love her voice.
01:04:22
Speaker
But this character is unlikable. she is an un unlikeable character She's it just gets really obnoxious. But I do love her character design design and I like her idol animation that's on the screen. like She'll go from like really hyper sugary, excited to just like...
01:04:39
Speaker
Drab. Like so sad because of you know the malevolator. Let me see. Let me think. There's probably a few. I'm not a big fan of Marge and Polly. They are.
01:04:50
Speaker
I agree. When you first meet them, they're sweet cow and sheep. Yeah. who speak very cow and sheep like like marge speaks like this like she's moving the whole time and polly speaks like this like shes buying the whole time and it sucks and then you sexually fulfill marge to get butter um and That's what happens. That's this true.
01:05:20
Speaker
Yes. And then later when they get malevolated, they turn into a bondage couple. Yeah. And you have to help. You again have to help Polly sexually satisfy Marge.
01:05:34
Speaker
And it sucks. weird It's weird. Yep. It's very strange. Uh, i It feels off to me, even within this type of game and like within this type of humor.
01:05:47
Speaker
I never really appreciated that part. I'm not offended by it. You know what I mean? But like I also just don't. Yeah, the way I said it sucks almost makes it sound like I think it's problematic, which I don't.
01:05:58
Speaker
yeah I don't think it's problem just think it's annoying. It's weird and like sometimes in the world of criticism, especially game criticism. If you say, especially if you're a woman like me, if I say I don't like something, people are like, well, why are you offended? I'm like, I'm not.
01:06:13
Speaker
I just don't. I just don't like it. just thought it was stupid. Yeah, I just thought it was stupid um or unnecessary or or whatever. I'm not necessarily offended by every single thing I don't like.
01:06:25
Speaker
I don't like pickles, but they don't offend me. They do offend me. That's fair. No, I kind Very phallic. I'm fine with pickles. I like how phallic they are.
01:06:37
Speaker
Cool.
01:06:39
Speaker
Great. Also, like clon the clown on the box is not great. I don't like the clown. Again, if not it's obnoxious to me. Yeah, he just does a bunch of celebrity. He's supposed to be insane and unhinged. So you talk to him and he just says random shit. It's random humor.
01:06:55
Speaker
And everything he says is a different celebrity impression. And man, no thanks. it was I think that might also be Rob Paulson. it Yes, I think it is. It it was kind of giving me like batty vibes from Fern Gully.
01:07:10
Speaker
ah His whole thing was that he was very erratic as he's singing this song, except worse. Like this character is even more experimented on and just like yeah way worse to me. um How did you feel about the wolf character, the wolf den?
01:07:27
Speaker
Ah, fine. Yeah. Bebe Wolf. Yeah, I agree. It was fine. Yeah, it was fine. just fine. It fine. There's nothing that i I loved about it, nothing that I hated about it. remember getting stuck on that puzzle as a kid.
01:07:38
Speaker
because Yeah. Because you have to, it changes the mechanics of the game slightly. Right. To solve that puzzle. It's like a very simple solution, and but it's like the goat puzzle in...
01:07:52
Speaker
broken sword asks you to think about it it asks you to do something that is different than everything else in the game and so you don't even think about it and it what kind of falls in line with like the like with being a like mini game section but it is you're right it is a totally different totally different mechanic that you never use except for in that part um what's your least yeah go ahead I was just going to say I forgot about the the guard dog character who I actually love. He's in front of the toilet.
01:08:24
Speaker
The flushing toilet. And he's just so matter of fact that it's funny. i skipped all his – I liked him conceptually, but i skipped all of his dialogue. It's long winded.
01:08:36
Speaker
So it's very long winded. And he speaks and is the bit is that he speaks in monotone and and he's just like this. i it's It's like the um the tax collectors in Day of the Tentacle where they just speak like this.
01:08:48
Speaker
and yeah But his other thing is that he's very long winded. And so it annoys Drew and Flux. but And that's the joke. But also it annoys you as the player.
01:09:01
Speaker
Well, were you were going to ask a question, I think. Worst puzzle.
01:09:07
Speaker
Huh. Worst puzzle. Worst puzzle. In terms of difficultness or I just don't like it? ah Either one. Either one. yeah Open to interpretation. I don't like don't like the fish puzzle. Okay.
01:09:23
Speaker
Because it just doesn't make sense. It's just weird. It's just it's just weird. Even, again, even for the ah even for the setting of Tombstruck. um I just thought that was weird. And let me let me think. Do you want to give one while I think of another one?
01:09:37
Speaker
Sure. I think um my least favorite is the there's a puzzle where a raven gives you clues. About the order at which you pull out four books.
01:09:49
Speaker
Or eight books. Four red, four blue. Each mark with number. puzzle sucks. my And get ro I wrote down the rules. And there are... I mean, the rules are... I mean, it's a lot of rules.
01:10:03
Speaker
Yeah. ah But there's also... Pretty sure. Maybe somebody can correct me. But based on my calculations...
01:10:15
Speaker
there are at least three solutions that work or that should work, but only one of them is correct. That, no, I hate that puzzle.
01:10:27
Speaker
i I actually hate it. um I don't like, it's like a math problem you would get. It seems like the sort of puzzle I would like though. It seems like sort of you really have to think hard about this and there's one solution. And once you get it, you're like, I'm a genius, but that is not how I felt.
01:10:44
Speaker
yeah it's just simply i think annoying um and it it it does it certainly reminds me of those like kind of written essay questions uh not essay um just uh written questions for math so it's like kind of like this like brother joe is not the tallest brother brian is the middle tallest and it's just it's a bunch of clues that you get that you write down and i just hate i just hate it just don't like i I'd say my, like my, my, there's there's a puzzle that I, I don't know how I feel about. I don't know if, I don't know if you remember it or how you feel about it, but there's, there's two statues
01:11:26
Speaker
on ah the banisters of a stairway. And you have two gargoyles and you have to, they're each pet. They're ah they're also meant to look like Pez dispensers. And you push in with a horn on one And you can open the Pez dispenser and get the thing out of it. But when you push in the horn on one, the horn pops up on the other.
01:11:46
Speaker
And you can only lift up the head of the one who the horn is pushed in. Or the horn is, sorry, who the horn is sticking out of. So when you walk from one to the other, the horn switches back.
01:12:01
Speaker
Right, right. And I did it so many times. I used so many inventory objects. Oh, no. The whole solution is... You have to find another way around. Yep. And again, it's just shifting this dynamics.
01:12:15
Speaker
Like that's ah solving a puzzle in a way that none of the other puzzles in the game are solved. Meaning you're pathing and Yeah, it's a little all over when it comes to that.
01:12:25
Speaker
Because I was going to say, like, I don't like something that I kind of struggled with was the minigame in the arcade. You have to beat um this weird octopus guy at a game.
01:12:37
Speaker
oh yeah. And I struggled. I struggled to do that minigame. The thing that's frustrating about that is, yeah, you have to use the cursor to click the buttons. It doesn't map to the buttons on your keyboard. Correct. So you have to do up, down, and shoot.
01:12:53
Speaker
And you have to use your cursor to click up, down, and shoot on the – and that's hard. is really hard. it is hard, and it's not very fun, to be honest with you. It's it's not like – I guess I had some fun. I would enjoy that game if I – I would enjoy that game a little bit anyway if I played it and it was mapped to the keyboard or a controller.
01:13:14
Speaker
True. ah it's it's It was giving like Stooge Fighter 3 from Space Quest, which you can't even win unless you cheat at it. Oh, it's like Or like Astro Chicken. Why are there so many weird arcade games in adventure games?
01:13:32
Speaker
I mean, for so long, they didn't really know what they wanted adventure games to be. So they just added. So that's, I think, why there were so many mini games in old adventure games. um Okay. I do want to talk a little bit about the story and then what we think it means and then talk about, I think that'll naturally lead to the failed sequel or the the never realized sequel.
01:13:55
Speaker
Yeah, and we'll probably that's probably a good place to conclude. We'll conclude on talking a little bit or lamenting, I guess, on that. think so. So I think this game is both a hero's journey Game and a little bit metaphorical. I lose the metaphor sometimes when i'm talking when I'm trying to think it through. So maybe either you can help or maybe we'll realize that the metaphor doesn't hold up.
01:14:18
Speaker
yeah um I think it might have depended a little bit on the sequel, to be honest. um So you are a frustrated artist who you had to give up your passion to fulfill your corporate overlords and their vision. and So that leads to you getting sucked into this world to save it.
01:14:43
Speaker
And the world that you created, Qtopia, is being overtaken by malevolence, which I guess is the greed of the corporation yeah that runs it.
01:14:58
Speaker
you And they need the help of you, their creator, Drew Blank. And Drew Blank's unrealized favorite creation flux wildly yeah to to save them from this corruption and that's eventually what your spoiler alert your solution is right um the flux and the fluffy fluffy bun bun and flux wildly show is what you eventually come up with right
01:15:31
Speaker
Very smart. So I think, again, there's sort of a hero's journey thing going in here. You you so start... Although, should we say, though, that that that does fail?
01:15:45
Speaker
Yes. Yes. So even though you come up with this new... You're invigorated by this new idea, it is not accepted by your boss, Ben Stein. Right. Yeah.
01:15:58
Speaker
And the game sets up a sequel. It sets it up. Yeah. I like the ending of the game. I thought it was great. You go back to your drawing board and flux is like, Drew, we still need you.
01:16:08
Speaker
Come, come back into the TV. And you're earlier on, you were injected with like a cartoon serum. So like you are part cartoon now, so you can just freely move back into the.
01:16:20
Speaker
Yeah. think it's like cool world where like you'd be like, you can become a tune. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And man, cartoon ah Christopher Lloyd looks fucking weird, man. Yeah, he does.
01:16:32
Speaker
Yes, he does. So I don't know. i Is there part of the metaphor here that i'm missing? So like.
01:16:41
Speaker
What is it trying to if that is all true? What is it trying to say about the creative process? Yeah. um It's tough. i do I do think like the Count Nefarious and the Malevolator is a metaphor for corporate greed and and ruining artwork.
01:17:03
Speaker
Right. Because that's what it's doing it within the world. It's ruining creations that were already fine. um But, and sorry, there's ah there's a twist here. There's a twist, yep. Once you save Cutopia, you find out that Cutopia now wants to overtake...
01:17:21
Speaker
Not only the Malevolands, but Zany do as well. So there's like two competing things, right? So and in the end, Cutopia just wants everything to be cute.
01:17:33
Speaker
And the Malevolands, they just want everything to look ah evil. um this is where i This is where I lose... Yeah, I think this is where I lose the plot. I mean, this is where where where the hero's journey thing clearly clicks in right? You have now...
01:17:52
Speaker
passed through the second threshold, right? yeah And you have you are returning changed um and you're putting it and then you are locked in Nefarious's castle trying to stop both, I'll just call him King Hugh to not to avoid spoilers. Yeah, that's fine.
01:18:12
Speaker
To stop King Hugh and Count Nefaria at once using all of the knowledge that you've gained so far. So you are... It's your final test.
01:18:24
Speaker
Yeah. That's where the hero's journey thing comes in. But what is the metaphor at that point? I don't know if there is one because I'm just trying to think of this from like an artist's perspective.
01:18:36
Speaker
It's very clearly like um reconnect with your own work. Remember why you liked something. Remember your creations and get really close to them and that will reinvigorate you. But that's not really the point because that reinvigoration ultimately didn't work. so is the meaning that you don't need this corporate world?
01:18:59
Speaker
You can be happy as an artist just being closer to your own work, but then you sacrifice. the and they they don't say that explicitly. I'm just, i am very much speculating on this based on how it ended, right?
01:19:13
Speaker
But it's almost like an artist finding their identity, right? You even start to change. You start to shift more a little bit into a tune. It's almost like, what who am I? What is my identity? Am I just the creator of these bunnies?
01:19:28
Speaker
And that's all I do. And nobody appreciates me. But maybe there's maybe maybe something else is my identity. Maybe i belong in this world.
01:19:39
Speaker
Right. So, okay, so you're you're saying that Count Nefarious versus King Hugh, you're saying iss just it's just for dramatic tension. It's sort of abandoning the metaphor for a minute just to have a that's just just to have some fun story. Yeah, or just really hammering it in how greed can go, i guess, either way, ah whether that is with good intention or with bad intention.
01:20:04
Speaker
Right. You know, especially, i think, in the artist world, right? um But yeah, it certainly needed some kind of... something at the end because they were really driving like this is an exciting game an exciting end you know yes and I think this is where the sequel comes in right the sequel there was There was more content planned for Toonstruck.
01:20:32
Speaker
ah There's more content developed for Toonstruck. This was where where the game ends. Seems like it's supposed to be at like the end of the second act. And then you go back for the third act. I want to say I would have accepted that as the end though. I would have accepted him just changing identities and finding happiness. I guess in the Toon world. But yeah, there was production for Toonstruck 2.
01:20:55
Speaker
Correct. So that, yeah, there, were it was ah originally part of Toonstruck one and there's some like unused backgrounds and stuff. There's, there's even a location in Toonstruck one where you're like, why was this here?
01:21:08
Speaker
Yeah. um And apparently it was supposed to be a part, like the way that you get to these other lands. Which would be so cool. It would just be so cool. And you can go look it up and see some of the artwork and but like characters and background screens from the content that didn't happen.
01:21:30
Speaker
There's a lot. There's a lot. that Vincent Van Gogh is in it. For some reason. There's like a whole carnival setting. i That's my thing.
01:21:40
Speaker
That's my jam. I just can't believe this. Yeah. So i there Hey, I have a thought. Oh my gosh. the cut So there was going to be a carnival setting, right?
01:21:51
Speaker
ah huh Do you think there's more weird clowns that were like being experimented on in the sequel? absolutely do. So there's a scene where he is in in some sort of land that looks, and it looks kind of like Zany do where there's three paths going off. One goes to like a mountain with a light bulb on it. Probably has something to do with ideas.
01:22:17
Speaker
On the left, there is a cute carnival. And on the right, there is a malevolent carnival. And I'm guessing. So the clown is on the cover and is such a fucking small part of the game.
Toonstruck's Legacy and Future
01:22:31
Speaker
Yes, that's true. he's um He's on some of the covers. There's two covers for Toonstruck. One is the clown and one is Christopher Lloyd in the ah electrocution chair. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah. I own the box with the electrocution chair on it.
01:22:48
Speaker
i When I was a kid, I owned the box with the electrocution on it, but then the CD still had the clown. Yes, it does. Yep. So... The clown, i expected as a kid to be a bigger part of the game, and he's not. No, not all. He's a very small part of the game. So I'm wondering if this other content had made it in, was he going to be a bigger part? And if they made this sequel, if they succeeded making the sequel, would that, would he again, and his ilk have been a bigger part?
01:23:19
Speaker
I think so. i think that, yeah. Toonstruck wasn't very successful. Financially, no. It was not successful. You know, end of 1996. It's a rough time for adventure games. And I also don't know, don't really know how much advertising this this really got. But I think mostly it's it's a lack of interest in the genre, personally.
01:23:43
Speaker
But I do think it's one of the best, better point and click games. I think you, you know... you play like If you're a fan of the classics, you play all the LucasArts games, they're all worth it.
01:23:58
Speaker
You play about half the Sierra games, they're worth Some of them half of them are worth it. so Half them, I mean. you play You go play the Broken Sword games, and you play Toonstruck, right? yeah and those And that, I think, fulfills the...
01:24:18
Speaker
you know, the 30 odd games that are, are what built this whole genre and what built the communities of adventure game fans that still complain that adventure games died 1995 or whatever.
01:24:31
Speaker
It's also one of the better FMV games, the live acted ones. the out of There was such a trend for that, and I fell into that trend. I was so excited for live acted stuff. I thought it was awesome.
01:24:44
Speaker
They're not great ah because of my previous criticism. I feel like I don't know why the editing was bad. It made the acting look bad, but I think this is one of the better ones because it, it, it does allow for some zaniness. Unlike something like phantasmagoria where we're trying to be kind of serious and it's just not, it's just not not work. Didn't know, no, no, no, absolutely not.
01:25:07
Speaker
um So, you know, yeah i man, I really wish there would be sort of a one thing this game really, really needs is a remaster.
01:25:22
Speaker
I agree. The graphics and the video quality are so low fidelity. Yeah. You might see the, if you've been on Instagram, go follow us, Save Your Game Podcast on Instagram.
01:25:37
Speaker
ah You might see this week's cover art. I had to redraw that, right? Like there yeah there is no content. high death images of these characters.
01:25:48
Speaker
So somebody, yeah, the it needs, the the original game needs a remaster, but I think people need to discover this game. Like I think yeah way more people would love this game than have played it.
01:26:00
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ah Again, agree it is one of the, it is a hidden member of the point and click classics. Yeah, I agree. No, it's, it's, it's really got something special. That's for sure. ah And I say that unequivocally, right? Like sometimes people will say like,
01:26:17
Speaker
Oh, Flight of the Amazon Queen is one of the classics, but it's not great, but it is like, it's kind of like the LucasArts games. i mean I'm saying it unequivocally. I think Toonstruck is a, absolutely stands shoulder to shoulder with all the LucasArts games. lot Positives and negatives. yeah I think it stands shoulder to shoulder with them.
01:26:39
Speaker
Or at least even some of the the more frustrating Sierra games, right? Because it's got those frustrating elements, but the quality is there. The quality is so high. Yeah. So, I don't know.
01:26:51
Speaker
That's my feelings on Toonstruck. you have anything else... I'm just happy that I replayed it. And like I said, i I am now to the point where even though these puzzles are stupid or some of them, not all of them are stupid, guys, ah but they're they're hard that I don't even fuck them up anymore because I don't want to because I need to get it right on the first try. So...
01:27:13
Speaker
I i've played this game multiple times. I've streamed it a few times. It was my first game review for YouTube. So it does have a special place in my heart. And I don't know who I have to talk to about Toonstruct 2, but I will.
01:27:27
Speaker
Where do I throw this pointless power on adventure games that I have? Where do I put it? It very, very much needs to exist. It's really, really frustrating that it doesn't.
01:27:38
Speaker
There's just so much like lost content. I just, ah as an artist, it upsets me. That there's lost content. It's that the story ah sets up a sequel. And like we're saying, they didn't really complete their metaphor.
01:27:54
Speaker
So we don't yeah know what the point that they were trying to make is because expected to have more while they were developing it. And again, it was It was supposed to be in the game, but they thought, oh, we have enough here for a sequel.
01:28:09
Speaker
We'll just include it in the sequel. Right. Which would would be smart because if you're playing this game blind, it will take you several hours. it's it's not Again, it's not a short game. it It is maybe a little bit for me because I know what to do.
01:28:24
Speaker
Yes. But if you just go into this blind, you could like even waste seven hours on this game. So it's probably smart that they wanted a sequel. um Also, before we get ah comments about this, we haven't pointed out the obvious things that we will get comments about, which is that, yes, it's the flux The Flux Capacitator and Flux Wildly.
01:28:46
Speaker
Yes. Linked by Christopher Lloyd. Yes. Christopher Lloyd is in Who Framed Roger Rabbit as Judge Doom. Okay. We can move on now. Yes. We get all of it. Yes. I get it. None of it is lost on us.
01:28:57
Speaker
yeah We're as smart as you. Wait. Did I say Flux Capacitator? You know what? I'm not changing it. No. No. you don't you shouldn't You shouldn't have to. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. We're allowed to say whatever we want on our podcast, even if it's wrong.
01:29:11
Speaker
Capacitator. Capacitate. Flux Capacitator. Count Nefaria. Count Nefaria.
01:29:20
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Flix Worldly.
01:29:24
Speaker
All right. Well, I think that wraps up our discussion of Toonstruck. Yes. Everybody. Thank you so much for listening. yeah
01:29:37
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What was that pronunciation? What was that? what is it I'm just that excited that they listen. Holy shit.
Engaging with Listeners
01:29:43
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01:29:58
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Yes. ah Thank you so much for saying good artists. i They're about me, all of them. ah Let's just give some names. Thank you, Brent, Jason, b Brian, Michael, Richard.
01:30:10
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ah Michael. I almost missed that one because he didn't put it in the mix. Multi Michaels. ah Michael. Solid State. You don't seem like a real person.
01:30:23
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And another Michael. Two Michaels. Oh, one of those. One of those ah is known as, you would you wouldn't know this, but on Mutant Menace, we call him Email Michael.
01:30:36
Speaker
Why? Because he emails us and his name is Michael. Oh, well, that's... So he's emailed Michael. Sure.
01:30:44
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01:30:54
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01:31:36
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Looking Ahead to New Episodes
01:31:47
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And like I let slip earlier, not only will we be playing the Naked Gun video game if we can get our hands on it.
01:31:56
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Next week, we'll be playing ah Callahan's Crosstime Saloon. Oh, man, that's ah that's a Rose's favorite. So tune in next week for that. Is there anything else we have to say?
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i have to say something real quick. but Oh, please. Podcast is art. Art is suffer.