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Episode 78: King’s Quest Trivia and Ranking Every Adventure Game Ever
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Matt gets revenge on Roses for grilling him on Monkey Island by giving her a hard-AF King’s Quest Quiz! After she does mildly okay, they get back to ranking every adventure game ever.
Games Mentioned:
- Hollow Knight: Silksong
- Kingdoms of the Dump
- Foolish Mortals
- Coven of the Chicken Foot
- Twenty Small Mazes
- Constance
- King’s Quest 1-7
- Ranked:
- Ben Jordan Paranormal Investigator Case 6
- Am I?
- Whateverland
- Cosmology of Kyoto
- Nauticrawl
- Delores: A Thumbleweed Park mini adventure
- The Black Cauldron
- Room 208
- Solaria Moon
- As Dusk Falls
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Transcript
Guessing Game: New Favorite TV Show
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Speaker
Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt. Matt, Matt, guess's what Matt, matt guess what that what what i have a new favorite thing oh no yeah okay first can you guess what it is probably not um Is it a – okay, hold on. Let's let's try like 20 questions for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
00:00:25
Speaker
Is it an animal? No. Mineral? No. Vegetable? No. Huh. Okay.
00:00:35
Speaker
Listen, let let's just be – let me just be frank. It is a TV show, okay? Okay. guess that's mineral. Is a TV show a mineral? I don't know, but because that's what it is. ah various okay It's like abstract. It's a TV show. Okay. Okay. Is it a comedy?
00:00:52
Speaker
No. Is it old? No. It's new. Okay. Is it, so it's a draw it's a new drama. is it Or is it a reality show? Yes.
00:01:03
Speaker
It's a reality show. Okay. Is it an American reality show? No. Is it a Korean reality show? No.
00:01:12
Speaker
Jeez, is it a British reality show? No.
00:01:17
Speaker
Jesus. Okay, is it is there nudity in it? No. Okay. Is anybody's life in danger at any point during this? No! um
00:01:32
Speaker
Okay. Okay, okay, okay. Is this is a celebrity involved? No. Oh my god. Is it Japanese? No. Is it Canadian? Yes.
00:01:44
Speaker
ah I don't know how many questions we're on. I'm sorry. i wasn't counting. Is it? Okay. it's a So Canadian reality TV show. Yeah. Is it? Oh, is it somebody trying to find love?
00:01:58
Speaker
No. So bad. it's You have to think, what else does Sarah like? What does she like? Is it about pottery?
00:02:09
Speaker
No. Is it about murder? No. Is it about video games? No. Is it about painting? It can be. is it like a Okay, is it a challenge show?
00:02:25
Speaker
Yes. Okay, is it like an art challenge show? Yes.
00:02:33
Speaker
I couldn't possibly get that. That is probably the closest I can possibly get to it. Maybe. It is an art challenge show. All right. Now I want to know about it. This is so funny because i gave you a hint earlier today.
00:02:47
Speaker
What about, okay, how about this? What about if you, it's it is a dating show and you have to make a art show. And you have to make an art of your your your dream person.
00:02:59
Speaker
And it's like a collage and you make like a statue or you make like a big art. right Yeah. And then.
00:03:11
Speaker
You have to. yeah How do you win this challenge? How do you win this game, Matt? the person who your art looks most like.
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Speaker
gets
00:03:28
Speaker
to ah you you go on a date with them and see if it's true love this sounds creepy no you how you sleep with them right away okay that's fine I would do that i would compete yeah it's like it's like it's like up now you guys have to have sex and they're like we don't want to and like like like a kid with his egg like his sister's Barbies he's just pushing them together it's a mano that that's it And that's it. The host is a man with very big, like a big, big man with big hands. And he's just shoving normal sized people together.
00:04:05
Speaker
That, listen, you're closer than you think now. Do you give up? Yeah. Best in miniature. It's miniature art reality competition TV. And everyone has to make a miniature dollhouse with little itty bitty miniature rooms and like miniature pottery. It's the best. It's the best. Best in miniature.
00:04:28
Speaker
That's my new favorite thing.
Health Humor: Acid Reflux & Eating Habits
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Speaker
Where's the sex coming? It does. I told you it's not about that, Matt. It's not about that.
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Speaker
I've lost interest. but
00:04:59
Speaker
Hey, have you ever thought about writing lyrics to our song, to our little intro song there? I never have. No. I'm going to write us lyrics. Not right now. That would be very difficult. but are we Are we in the show? Yeah, we're in the show. i just This is how I'm bringing us in. I just wanted to know you ever thought about it. of No, I've never thought about it. I've never thought about it because it's just such a good instrumental song and I didn't want to ruin it.
00:05:28
Speaker
but I thought you were going to say that's such a good idea. I would have never thought of that. Only you would have thought of that.
00:05:35
Speaker
Ruining our interest. Yeah, i guess that's true. I guess only you would have thought about it. Anyway, hi everyone. Welcome back to Save Your Game. Hi, Matt. How are you doing?
00:05:46
Speaker
I'm doing okay. I got a little bit of acid reflux. that's I hate acid reflux. Yeah, I got a first And I don't drink milk or have a lot of dairy, so I don't... There's not a lot I can do.
00:05:59
Speaker
Here's something... timess Here's something for the audience. Like a little Matt trivia. I've got a sliding hiatal hernia. Okay. All right. Yeah. I think you told me that. And I'm always like, what's that? Like, I never remember what it is. There's like a herniated part of my, I guess, stomach that ah that slips in and out of my esophageal sphincter when I breathe.
00:06:22
Speaker
So there will always be. So like, no matter what I do, i I'm always probably going to have acid reflux. But that said... I also don't take care to eat the right thing so that I don't get it. You, I don't really understand are you. My physiology. Yeah, I really don't. Cause like when we hang out, you eat junk. I eat a lot of sugar. And then you claim like, you have these claims of having like a big stomach and then you're so like a pole. You're just skinny and you just stay that way. And your skin is nice. I don't understand. What am I doing wrong? I'm a mess over here.
00:07:00
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I'm i'm chubbier than I look. Here's the thing. I'm chubbier than I look. No, that's not no. Nobody would say that. No. Hey, okay, listen. Anybody who is at Adventure X and you've met Matt. Yeah.
00:07:14
Speaker
Would you say that? No. Well, that's what that's my point, is if they come and take my shirt off, they'll be like, oh, he's actually a little chubbier than thought. don't think that clothes can can do that much, Matt. Second of second of all, second of all Yeah, I do not know how I keep small. I do not know why my skin looks like ah looks the same as it did when I was 17.
00:07:39
Speaker
Only ah like slightly less pimples. um I don't know. I don't know. i treat my body like shit. I'm trying. I'm trying my best to look like ah like like a fucking garbage. I just You're embarrassing me, Matt. Go to Adventure X and you look great and I look like Marjorie, the trash monster. i don't think. All right. I think of most most i think the same thing. If people are like there are people listening that were at Adventure X, they're going to be like, what? No, she doesn't. What are you talking about?
00:08:14
Speaker
Yeah, maybe. Maybe. maybe Maybe so. Crescent told me I have the, quote, friendliest smile and laugh that you've ever seen. I think i think me and you ah just have a really bad ah understanding of how we look.
00:08:31
Speaker
I look like garbage. And I'm 900,000 pounds. No, i know I know. I just think I'm a tiny bit chubby. But that's not even, though. But now I know how you feel when I'm having a BDD moment and I'm, like, insistent that something is wrong. And you're like, no, it's not even that. Now I know how this feels because – Because you're getting grumpy that i and that I find myself chubby. Correct, yeah. Just a little chubby. I'm allowed to be a little chubby. Just give me a little bit of chubby. It's allowed. Absolutely it's allowed. But the thing is, though, is you're not, though.
00:09:08
Speaker
Well, my point is i'm just you're up I'm allowed to have a little bit of chubby claims. chubby claims Chubby claims. He's making another chubby claim. It's weird. um Roses.
00:09:24
Speaker
Have you been playing any video games lately? Kind of, yeah. ah So I just on a whim, I downloaded Silksong on my PS4 and started playing that and I just wanted to give it a try. um i don't remember why I didn't continue it. I think it's because me and my partner wanted to play Mario Party, which don't. Don't don't do that. Don't play Mario Party? oh Don't win at it because then they'll be real fucking mad.
00:09:51
Speaker
I did win because I'm really good at the mini games. But anyway, he's very mad and he's very mad. He's so mad. um That's what I know most about your partner is that he's a guy who gets really mad all the time.
00:10:07
Speaker
I love that how just not accurate that is. um If anything, like a fax a faux mad. but ah so i But before we did that, I i said I wanted to try Silksong. And so I downloaded it. And it's really lovely. It's so good. the Yeah, I beat the first boss, which is like the, I guess like a moth.
00:10:28
Speaker
in this kind of mossy this mossy setting with these little like grubs uh which i felt bad about killing i love ah hornet's design so much actually that i would love to sculpt her and maybe sculpt the fleas and maybe some of the little grubbies it's just such a i don't know i like it better than a hollow knight i think it is such a sharp memorable character design and it's like whimsical and I like the needle, ah the needle tool. i I love all of it. I think it's so good. And I'm actually a secret about me. That's maybe not a secret. to and Is I'm actually very good at platformers. um Right. I've won multiple competitions for platforming games and side scrolling games. I'm actually really good at them. I just haven't played one in so long that I like struggled with the boss. I'm like, I cannot believe I'm struggling with this. I cannot believe it. well I don't know why I got like impatient with the, what would you call it? The pattern that the boss was doing. and I just thought, yeah, just thought, oh, I could just, I just go up to it and, and just beat it. But yeah, no, it's really lovely. I really like it. And I also have a few games in my queue that I'm going to be playing. one ah One is Kingdoms of the Dump, which is one Casey's ah suggestions. It just looks...
00:11:47
Speaker
So good. I love a JRPG. I like I love them. I love JRPGs. Yeah. And I just the fact that it's like a kingdom of trash. I don't know. It just really. I mean, look, I'm Marjorie the Trash Heep. Of course. Of course I like
Game Talk: Silksong and More
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Speaker
trash. um I also started Foolish Mortals.
00:12:06
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah. Wow. I've definitely done some stuff. um I really like it. You've been busy as hell. Yeah. And I've been sculpting. And you know what? You i think?
00:12:19
Speaker
My sculptures, my weird little guy sculptures, they would make great adventure game characters. ah Yeah. Yeah, I could see that. I could absolutely see that. Think about it. Think about this. My little lawyer monsters. Yes, I made weird little guys and they are lawyers. They're all lawyers.
00:12:35
Speaker
Woodkins, Little Shrub and Glorp. They could be in Monkey Island. They could be the Monkey Island lawyers. They could be the the the zoda Legend of Zelda lawyers in for the Koroks. Easily. my ah weird little my My sensitive monster line. They could be somewhere. I mean, do you feel as if these are creatures who need lawyers regularly? Yes.
00:12:58
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Oh, okay. I didn't know you were going to say yes. Okay. Especially the Koroks. ah They're constantly getting into danger, constantly getting into trouble. They're a liability, honestly. and Right.
00:13:14
Speaker
That's why Nintendo has been trying to fire them forever. but but they can't They can't find cause. Yeah. Anyway, what did we do? Did you play anything, Matt? Obviously, yes. I played a few games this week and i very much enjoyed my time doing so. And I can't wait to play Kingdoms of the Dump and to continue Silk Song. I'm kind of in a mood, honestly, i'm kind of because I do like platformers. I like side scrollers.
00:13:38
Speaker
I like them more with a little bit more puzzle design. So that's a little different than a Metroidvania, but I do like it. I do like playing games like this. Yeah, there's not a lot of puzzles in Silksong. But I do like it. I'm trying to think if there's any, actually. don't think there is,
00:13:55
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I mean, in the sense of, like, there's a there's an inherent kind of puzzliness to a Metroidvania. Yeah. You know, like... um i mean, there's no puzzles in the in the Mario games, and they're some of my favorite games. Super Mario at World 3 is one of my favorite... Not 3, sorry. Super Mario World is one of my favorite games of all time.
00:14:16
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because you know, in a Metroidvania, you are trying to, like, there you you do have obstacles you have to overcome. Yeah. And there are only specific ways, you know, there's only some specific ways to overcome each of those obstacles. True. um You know what I'm talking about. the puzzles. But, yeah, yeah. um Yeah. And there is, like, the puzzliness of trying to navigate this big, confusing world accurately. did get a little lost, even in the first...
00:14:47
Speaker
thing But that's a good thing. it's It was setting me up for, I think, what to expect in that first little section. So i was happy. Oh, I want to highlight one more game that was brought to my attention. okay It's called ah Coven of the Chicken Foot.
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Speaker
you heard of this? um ah All right, let's move on. no I'm kidding. um No, I've never heard of it. It looks... So it's it is a puzzle platformer game that kind of looks like Breath of the Wild.
00:15:15
Speaker
It has a super cute trailer. You're playing as this old lady that has a kind of forest monster companion that that helps her.
00:15:26
Speaker
ah So it's like a fantasy game, but it's a puzzle platformer. okay it looks gorgeous, and it's giving it's giving that coziness of a Zelda game, that familiarity, that high fantasy, interesting creatures. Even some of the puzzle design, I think, is... is you know, kind of similar. And yeah, it's called Coven of the Chicken Foot. and Coven of the Chicken Foot. It's not out yet, but I want to keep an eye on it because it looks just really lovely.
00:15:55
Speaker
so And how many games do you play like an old lady, an elderly woman? You don't. That's a good point. Yeah. No, you don't. You don't play old woman in lot of games. Yeah. I thought that was interesting. Except what's that fucking horrible game called that we were supposed to play at some point.
00:16:13
Speaker
Oh, there's so many. which Which one do you mean? um God. ah that what is Delirium something. Oh, yeah I know what you're. Yes, I know what you're talking about. I don't remember if it's called delirium or not.
00:16:27
Speaker
um Armed and delirious. Oh, armed and delirious. Yeah, I was like, it's not quite delirium, but we're on it's that's you're on the right track. Yes. Yes. But yeah, um besides that, yes. ah
Artistic Burnout in Games
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Speaker
Yeah. ah Coven of the Chicken Foot, you are playing as an elderly woman who has, again, a forest a forest monster companion. Super cute.
00:16:50
Speaker
that is I love it. i love I think it looks really gorgeous and I'm really excited. I don't know when it's coming out. Let me check the Steam page. Nope, it's to be announced. It's by developer called Wildflower Interactive.
00:17:03
Speaker
I think this is their first game. I don't see anything that they they've done yet. so But yeah, it looks great. So that's that's what's going on in my world of gaming right now. What's what's going on in your world?
00:17:17
Speaker
um So I have also been playing Silksong. um
00:17:23
Speaker
I have gotten... i think I have gotten all the way to... all right, so the you know the premise of Silksong is that you have landed... You've you've kind of been kidnapped and taken to this world where Everybody there is like a weird religious fanatic, right?
00:17:47
Speaker
And you um
00:17:52
Speaker
Yeah, kind of you're... Angry about having been kidnapped, understandably. Yeah. ah great no Not great. No one loves that. And then you...
00:18:10
Speaker
Are basically like, okay, I'm going to go find God. the Like, the God of this world. And fucking demand answers. Yeah. From it. I believe.
00:18:24
Speaker
not, you know, I'm not positive because I haven't i haven't fought it yet. But I've gotten to what I believe is the God. Okay. The reason I say it that way is because I'm not sure...
00:18:39
Speaker
if that's the end of the game or not, you know? Like, yeah, that's true. Like I could fight this thing and not get ah the end. It's, it's, yeah it's, it's pretty unpredictable. There's a, there's a moment in this game where you achieve some sort of goal and suddenly it, like you get a big,
00:19:04
Speaker
Act 2, splash screen. And it's like, what the fuck? i yeah So, so i you know, in my estimation, you know anything could happen. yeah So that's that's where I'm at in Silksong.
00:19:22
Speaker
It's, as everybody's saying, it's fucking great. Yeah. and And... Man, does it look nice. Man, is it so satisfying to look at.
00:19:33
Speaker
It's so pretty. It's absolutely just fucking gorgeous. I am definitely. I'll keep you guys updated on my sculptures. Man, those fleas sure are cute. ah Next time you come to Chicago and you see my place, it's just going to be covered in flea sculptures. You're going what the fuck? This is scary. This is Rose's i Have you gotten help for this yet? What do you mean? What do you mean? no Nothing. Never mind. His name is George. Okay.
00:20:08
Speaker
Oh, you've made 64 them. ah sixty five actually there's a hidden one oh no
00:20:18
Speaker
um The other game that I've played, and um'm um um I only have two left, is the game 20 Small Mazes o by Phleb.
00:20:30
Speaker
oh by Phleb. was going to say, that sounds like Strange Jigsaws. It is very much like Strange Jigsaws. Oh, it's free. Yes. There's a little less of a narrative. Sure. um But it's the same sort of thing, where these are mazes, but ah just off-the-wall ideas of what a maze could... How you could...
00:20:49
Speaker
Use the mechanics of a maze to make ah just like a wild puzzle experience. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Very similar to Strange Jigsaws. 20 small mazes. Oh, wait. I'm playing a third game. What am I talking about? um i played. I've been playing Constance.
00:21:05
Speaker
Did I talk about that that on the show? i don't think so. Maybe. let me look it up. Okay. Constance. That's pretty name. I like the name Constance. Yeah, it is a Metroidvania.
00:21:18
Speaker
Oh, you must have mentioned this. Because youve you saw it. i think I know I played the demo when we were last talking about demos, so maybe I talked about it then. And it's about an artist. It is about an artist. It is about an artist facing burnout.
00:21:34
Speaker
So this man, Roses, how many games are talking about this same exact theme? was just going to say. It's almost like... It's almost like being in late stage capitalism. Yeah. It's almost like we're all really fucking tired right now. Exactly.
00:21:50
Speaker
We're all, we're all burned out. We all have identity crisis. And if you're an artist, it's even worse. so Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. So, or just a creative person, right? Like there are yeah scenes that you play in this game where, where you beat certain bosses and then it just cuts to her sitting in front of her computer And then it lets you take control of her computer. And it is just a person getting so many creative jobs in a row. And it's somebody saying, hey, you know, like, we, ah hey, I need you to review this, you know, this
00:22:27
Speaker
this greeting card job and like, I need it. and The client's asking for it right now. So if you could just do that real quick and then she goes to do that. And then somebody else is like, Hey, uh, our client is asking for all the colors to change in this graphic design job you just did. Can you please fix that? So then she's jumping back and forth and somebody's like, Hey, can you export that audio from that project we did the other day? And she starts exporting and then like bouncing between all three of these people. And it's, it's like, gives you this sense of just, holy shit, this is overwhelming. It is. That's what it's like. It's overwhelming. That's why I don't i don't have commissions open ever, even though I've thought about it. And someone's like, hey, when are you opening, like, commissions? Yeah.
00:23:11
Speaker
And I'm like, probably never, because that's all it's going to be. Yeah. It's like these these all these little jobs that I have to keep an eye on and people are going to want to change them or want something very specific. And but that's what you got to do. Right. Right. You got to do to make money and pay the bills. Yeah, it's tough.
00:23:29
Speaker
so the way Creative work is tough. The way that manifests in in Constance's head, she's just she's just a like it's like a cute little, you know, Metroidvania character with a big shawl and paint for hair. And she's got a big purple paintbrush. And she swings it around like that's her weapon.
00:23:47
Speaker
And, you know, a lot of um traversal options. Just like... you know, typical Metroidvania shit. But you're traveling through this weird world of kind of like art and robots. And, um, uh, as you use your paint, when you use up your paint, you can keep using your powers, but you then, uh, uh, run on corruption.
00:24:21
Speaker
just a, you know, a inverted sort of like black version of the paint that you've been using and it, and you take damage as you do it. So there's so many times like in a boss fight, I am just dashing around and using my paintbrush and like regular, regular, ah you know, just slash attacks with your brush are are free, but like these powerful extra attacks um cost paint. And so does dashing. Yeah.
00:24:50
Speaker
dodging So I'm just dodging, trying to avoid the enemy enemy's attacks. And then I take a strike at them and suddenly I'm dead.
00:25:01
Speaker
Right. Because I, I only had a little bit of health left and I ran out of paint and didn't realize. And I think they're trying to sort of draw a metaphor there about what burnout is like in the way that you can, without even realizing it, use up all your energy and,
00:25:19
Speaker
Do damage to yourself. Yeah. And, you know, get into these situations where you need that energy. And it's kind of a good commentary on like on the stigma or not stigma, but the romantic is a romanticization
Burnout Mechanics in Constance
00:25:32
Speaker
of artistry. And if like the worse off you are the better. You'll create, you know, create great work from sadness and pain. It's like, no, i can't create shit when I'm burnt out. Like, I can't do anything.
00:25:46
Speaker
um It's such a strange, again, kind of this romantic idea of what being an artist is like. When really, it's it's a really hard job that, yeah, when you get burnt out, you can't create.
00:25:59
Speaker
So the game is very colorful ah and really Fluid and nice to look at. um As a Metroidvania, it's a little stiff and very and hard in one of those ways where, you know you know when a game is really hard, you have to be able to trust it.
00:26:16
Speaker
Sure. when If you're playing a really hard game, you have to know that you are in good hands. They have thought through everything. Everything is... is fully like um pinpoint accurate and fair. yeah I don't know that entirely trust this game.
00:26:36
Speaker
right There's some things where i'm like, man, the thing that I had to do here was so precise that it's almost as if they... you know tossed an enemy here because they felt like they needed an enemy here not because they thought through this sequence perfectly especially going from silk song to constance and bouncing back and forth it's like you know uh not night and day but man it is such a there's such a um big uh there's such a contrast between the two and ah
00:27:10
Speaker
But it's still really fun. It's got a bunch of really creative ah boss designs. It's an interesting, you know, traversal. And there's these themes, which I haven't gotten far enough in to know if they do anything particularly clever or thoughtful with. But it's at least, you know, at least it's a game that's personal to somebody and not just some bullshit. Right? Absolutely.
00:27:34
Speaker
And, you know, there's a lot of Metroidvanias out there that are just like, plug and play right like here's the formula and I got a cute little guy and let's go yeah um but clearly these people had a thought and an idea so anyway that's Constance and 20 small mazes and Hollow Knight Silksong yay what are we doing today
00:27:58
Speaker
ah you tell me what are we doing today well I mean I should say as the title suggests We're going to be ranking some games.
King's Quest Quiz & Trivia
00:28:07
Speaker
But you have something for me. I understand.
00:28:12
Speaker
i do. Yes, I do. I have you. King's Quest quiz. It's a quiz. And it's about King's Quest. And we're going to.
00:28:23
Speaker
And right after we play.
00:28:34
Speaker
Stumpy Grammarino. We're going to come back and I'm going to rock your brain off with a quiz about qui queen queen'sque Queen's Quest.
00:28:46
Speaker
yeah
00:29:15
Speaker
Hey, Pushing Up Roses! Step right on down to the... Yeah, to the Daventry stage where we will be playing.
00:29:27
Speaker
ah I don't have a clever name for it, so we'll just call it King's Quest Trivia! Yay!
00:29:36
Speaker
I'm coming down the stairs to the podium. God, you're walking so slow. You don't have to high five everybody. I'm afraid of stairs. Okay. I fell out. Why are you high fiving everybody? Hold on to the railings. They're put, they want to high five but Almost there. Almost there. Almost there. Audience. Just so you know, this, since this is an audio product, there's six stairs. Okay.
00:30:00
Speaker
right, I made All right, I'm at the podium. All right, I'm ready to questioned. Well, ah today, Pushing Up Roses, you are going to be playing for a wand recharger.
00:30:16
Speaker
A what? A wand recharging machine. What's that? It's a machine that you use to recharge your wand. But I... Yeah. But, okay. It runs on cheese.
00:30:29
Speaker
Does the cheese have to be moldy? I haven't read the whole instruction booklet, to be honest with you. Okay, I'll play for that. I'll play for anything. I've never owned a wand they don't they took my wand. They took all my wands away.
00:30:41
Speaker
I was not responsible with them. Because you kept trying to like magic yourself donuts. That part, you know, okay, yes, that is irresponsible personally. Yeah. But it was when I started trying to turn other people's stuff into donuts. Into donuts, yeah. That's they got Even other people's donuts into different tasting donuts. different donuts. I was like, you don't want to think. I would walk i walk around and i'd look at people eating donuts and be like, you don't want that one. Come on, that one. Here, here's a jelly donut. Different donut.
00:31:14
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And apparently, yes, that is a misdemeanor. Hmm. Okay, I will play for the machine because I'll i'll do any i'll play for anything. Okay. don't even care. Do it. let's I'm going to win. the The backup prize is a cream pie.
00:31:30
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Yes! I need that to throw at the Yeti. so Okay. That'd be great. so Weapon. these the These, some of these are just fucking the hardest things. Okay. Oh, to me. To me, I would, i look at the questions that I compiled and I'm like, no one's going to fucking get this.
00:31:50
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But you might be like, so don't, no one at home can blame you yeah if you don't get these questions. And you can't blame yourself. But if you get all of them, you can make fun of me.
00:32:06
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Okay. ah Sounds good. So question one.
00:32:14
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From the game King's Quest one. Oh boy. I'm
00:32:20
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What item does Graham have to, have to pick up, have to pick up before he enters the hole in the ground that leads to the leprechaun cave? Yeah, he does have to get something. Um,
00:32:35
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I want to get, is this a, is this a multi, multi answer, multi choice? None of these are multiple choice, but I can make them multiple choice. If I feel like if you made this have a multiple choice, I would get it though.
00:32:49
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ah You wouldn't or you would, I would get it. If you made it multiple choice, I would get Okay. All right. I, I, I can find, I'm afraid to guess. Why am I so afraid?
00:33:03
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Okay, ready? Okay, so before... Which item does he need before entering the hole in the wall? Before entering the hole. That goes the leprechaun cave, right? Yes. Should I just give my guess? Man. Okay. Yes, you can. If you don't get it, for half a point, I'll give you multiple choice. Okay. I think it's the violin or the fiddle.
00:33:23
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Incorrect. All right. Can I do a second guess? you know No, I'm kidding. No, you can't. Go ahead and do the... All right. For half a point...
00:33:34
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Is it the four-leaf clover? Yes, it's the clover. The mushroom? Oh, it could be the mushroom. The diamond pouch? Or the golden egg? i think it's the clover.
00:33:46
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and It is the mushroom. the mushroom. You need the mushroom to be able to fit through the tiny exit or you'll be trapped in the cave forever. That's right. What a piece of shit game.
00:33:58
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ah Because if you don't have any of the other if you don't have any of the other and items you need in the leprechaun cave but you do in the mushroom, you could go out and get them. ah Right. Okay. Yeah. The reason I said the fiddles, cause that makes the leprechauns like dance and then the four leaf clover, it like gives you some kind of power, like some kind of respect type of thing. But yes, if you have the, mu if you don't have the mushroom, you track it out. That's true.
00:34:21
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Damn. Okay. All right. All right. I'm in it now. Let's go. I actually pulled that question from somewhere else. So like, I don't i like if so, it is possible that, That you can't go back into the cave ever.
00:34:34
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And you need all the all of them before you enter. but That's a tough question. Anyway, okay. In quint King's Quest 1, what is the name of the king? Okay, well, I'm going to make a guess. I think this is what it is. I'm so scared.
00:34:52
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it King Edward? Edward? yeah You got, yay, you got one. You got the, okay. He sucks too. He like dies right away.
00:35:04
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Question number three. Okay. In King's Quest 2. Oh boy. What is the name of the land where the game takes place?
00:35:18
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Colmia. Colmia. Colmia. Colima. Colima. Yay! Yay! Okay. King's Quest 2 had the subtitle Romancing the Throne. Uh-huh.
00:35:38
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What was the name of the AGD remake of King's Quest 2? Romancing the Stone? Yay! Yay! Really?
00:35:48
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Woo! Okay. In King's Quest 2, what treasure is hidden in the hole in the log?
00:35:59
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Um, oh gosh. Okay. I know this. I, and I think, is it a log or is it a tree? Is it a log on the ground or is it a tree standing up?
00:36:10
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It's a log on the ground. Oh, it is. Okay. Well, my, now I'm not sure. I mean, my, my instinct is to say like a pouch of diamonds. Okay.
00:36:24
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That's your final guess. Yeah. Cause I don't know what else it could be. Damn it! Okay. Well, I will give you... You can do it There's a multiple choice here for a half point. Okay. All right. Let's do it.
00:36:37
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Is it the brooch? Is it the necklace? Is it the shell? Or is it the bracelet? All I know what it's not. I know it's not at the shell, and I know it's not the bracelet. I think the brooch is found in the stone, in this, like, little stone that's on an island. So I think it's the necklace. Okay.
00:36:59
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All right. That's a half point. You get a half point. It is a diamond necklace. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Question six. What age is Gwydion when King's Quest three begins? He is 17 about to turn 18. That's yeah that's my favorite game of like all time.
00:37:22
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ah What in King's Quest three? What was the name of the spell book? Oh, my God. um i i oh my God. I, like, do know what it is because I played it a bajillion times. Can you give me um a minimal hint? Just a minimal hint. I don't know what that A minimal hint. Yeah. um That's such a difficult question. Oh, my gosh.
00:37:54
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Okay. A minimal hint. It is a is it is it Is it something that's like the blank of blank? The blank of the blank? Yes. All right. There's your hint.
00:38:08
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Not yeah The blank of blank. yeah Oh. oh Okay. The sorcery of...
00:38:19
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Old...
00:38:22
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Did get it? Yay! Holy shit! Okay. i I've played this game. i'm but King's Quest III, man. damn. Like, I love that game. Wow. All right. Yeah. i Man, I thought some of these were going to get you. All right.
00:38:38
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Question number eight. In what other Sierra game does the whale tongue scene from King's Quest four The Perils of Rosella appear? Oh, wow. In another Sierra game? Yep. So not King's Quest?
00:38:53
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Nope. It's not a King's Quest game, but but it's a King's Quest scene that appears in another game. I don't quite know what it is, but I'm goodnna i don't i'm not sure I know which specific one it is, but I'm going to guess Space Quest.
00:39:07
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One of the Space Quests. Okay. Okay. Fair. um The game is... Leisure Suit Larry 3, Passionate patty in the pursuit of the pes pulsing page these are larry three pe and Patty in the Pursuit of the Pulsating Pectorals. I think those are the games I've played maybe the least. yeah So that makes sense. you I knew that Space Quest had some ah some Easter eggs, so it made sense. But yeah.
00:39:33
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You walk through basically like a studio like a movie studio. And in the movie studio, they're making other Sierra games. And you see... the infamous whale pride puzzle.
00:39:46
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Yeah, that's right. I i do remember that now. Yeah. All right. Question number nine in King's quest for the perils of Rosella. What are the three magic items? Rosella must bring a lot. The, could you tell me when I'm right when I get one?
00:40:01
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So I know I'm on the right track. Uh, man. Sure. Yes. Okay. Uh, the magic mirror.
00:40:13
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Oh, I'm already... Okay, all right, nope. that you know You know what? Nope, the magic mirror's already in there. Because that's what we use to get to her. Oh my gosh, the three magical... Okay, so wait, wait, wait, wait. wait wait wait wait wait wait why am Why am I blanking? I know that we have to get the magical fruit to save King Graham. Maybe, like, is one...
00:40:34
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What am I doing? Let me think. Let me think. What am I doing in that game? i am I'm Rosella. I've got to go save my dad. Yeah. There's Lelote, the evil witch, and Edgar.
00:40:48
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um i know I have to get the fruit. And you're telling me the fruit is not an answer because that's not what the fairies need. That sounds like a hint to me. Okay. a Man, is one...
00:41:02
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I don't know. I don't fucking know. Is one like a treasure chest? A treasure chest. Yeah. I'm definitely thinking like a different piece of stuff. I'm going to say no. Damn. There's one that is a box, but it is so. Oh, it's Pandora's box. Pandora's box is one of them.
00:41:21
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Yeah, if you can, all right, i can I'll get, here's for the treasure chest. But if you can now get all three without me helping you at all, now that you have one of them, if like the rest of the three come to you, I will give you a half point.
00:41:36
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i You know what's happening? I'm thinking of King's Quest 2. I'm thinking of all the things you get from King's Quest 2. You get treasure chest in King's Quest 2. Yeah. And you get a magic mirror in King's Quest 2.
00:41:48
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Yeah. I'm like, oh, yeah, the mirror is already there. um I'm going to say that maybe... be i don't know if this is one of them, though.
00:42:00
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The Golden Bridal? no. Is the trapped fruit one of them? you know ah You need the golden bridle to get the unicorn and the unicorn something that you need for. The unicorn is the item?
00:42:17
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Unicorn, a magic hen, and a Pandora's box are the three magic items that Lalotte asks for. I definitely remember Pandora's box. The the unicorn, of yeah, I absolutely remember the unicorn. and I didn't remember that that was an item. And I think the magic hen is like in, nope, that's two again. What is going on? what's going on with my brain it wants to answer questions about king's quest 2 apparently well we've moved on from king's quest 2 and now we've moved on to in king's code question number 10 is in king's quest 5 oh god what is the name of the gypsy that tells graham his fortune
00:43:02
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i use I say gypsy because that's what the word they use. I know what you're saying. i would say i would I would say Romani. Madam Mushka will see you now.
00:43:14
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Yes, you got it. um The villain in King's Quest V is named Mordak. Yes. What's his brother's name?
00:43:26
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Mananin. ya Yay! All right.
00:43:34
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In King's Quest VI, how many islands does Alexander visit? let's let Let's hash this out. okay we class I'll give you a bonus point if you can name them all.
00:43:46
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okay Okay, cool. I'll try. um But that means I'm not going help at all when you start naming them. Okay, that's fine. I think there are five and I'm going to try to name them. So the Isle of the Druids, the Isle of Wonder, the Isle of the Beast, the like the Green Isle, and the... it So it's... Okay, I can do this.
00:44:07
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It's where the flighted people are. I know it's like... i it's ah It's a mountain? Okay. ah Let me restart. Isle of Wonder. Isle of Druids.
00:44:21
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Isle of the Beast. the The main island. Isle of the Crown or whatever. Green Isle. Isle of the Crown. And the Isle of the Mountain. Isle on the Mountain.
00:44:33
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Man. All right. Two of these are... So so you get... Wait, is it? Wait, sorry. Isle the Druid is Isle of the Mists. Isle of the Mists. right. Yay!
00:44:45
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You get both points. Yes! So it is, because it is five islands, it is the sacred mountain. ew. Okay. But because you came so close, I think, I think it counts. Thank you! Plus I got the original question right. I said five. Right, well, right. but That's what I'm saying. I think you do get both points.
00:45:07
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Yay! Question 13.
00:45:12
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What is the name in King's Quest 6? What is the name of Kasima's songbird? I know what kind of bird it is. Does that count?
00:45:25
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No? nope No. you can You can say it if you want, but it's not going to count for anything. I think it's a nightingale, right? Kasima's songbird? Oh, Sing Sing! Sing Sing Sing is a song. is ah is Yes.
00:45:41
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Go Sing Sing. Tell Alexander. sorry ah right. ah In King's Quest 7. seven I'm going to be sad if I don't get these.
00:45:55
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What is the name?
00:45:58
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Of the song Rosella sings at the beginning of the game. A land beyond dreams or something. i could I know the words. ya Yay!
00:46:12
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Enchantment adventure. All
00:46:17
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all right. And for a bonus point there, who wrote it? um i'm gonna say uh jane jensen's husband what the fuck is his i don't i actually don't know this is it like robert holmes robert holmes some guy some fucking guy oh it's mark siebert oh it's mark siebert oh he wrote um the ant song in king's cross five just a boy i ah That doesn't get you a point. Okay, sorry. ah No, but thank you for that extra trivia.
00:46:53
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that when i When I spring this on my other co-host. They're going to be so shocked. there go I'm going to use that question. Question 15. What member of the royal family of Daventry does not appear in King's Quest VII?
00:47:08
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I believe it's Alexander.
00:47:15
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What? What you talking about? In King's Quest 7? Where the fuck is Alexander? it's king's It's King Graham. Where is Alexander in King's Quest 7? Oh, is he at the wedding? No!
00:47:27
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is it Oh my gosh. 7. I'm so mad. King's Quest 7, Alexander. I'm so mad right now. So mad.
00:47:39
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I'm so confused. I'm so confused. Because... right I'm going to say this. Maybe there's two answers. Because think King Graham or Alexander are in this game. I did not double check this quis quiz. oh I...
00:47:54
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ah like I didn't go play the games to check. I trusted this quiz maker. So it is possible. Why don't we, why don't we put it? Oh, you know what we we should do? All right. Let's throw it to the discord and anybody, this'll be an advertisement. Anybody yeah who's listening, who's not part of the discord, there'll be a link in our show notes. You can join the discord cord and everybody in the discord can decide or can, can tell us.
00:48:19
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Does Roses get this point? Or does Roses not get this point? Is the is the weird website... is the The user at funtrivia.com who made a ton of fucking King's Quest trivia shit.
00:48:36
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Are they wrong about this one? I'm just... I'm a little confused because Graham... but nor Neither Graham or Alexander are in this game. It is Rosella and Valenice. Okay. Well, that's...
00:48:48
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So does Alexander make even a cursory appearance in this Yeah, i want to know. Is what people in the Discord can let us know. And if not, you get one extra point. And if so, ah you'll lose seven points. What? Question 16.
00:49:07
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There's two more. Two more. Two more. Two more. Okay. Okay. Okay. Question 16. What was the first King's Quest game to have voice acting? ah King's Quest 5. Okay. yeah right hey Last one.
00:49:21
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You ready? This is a tough one. In fact, it's so tough, I think you won't get it. Okay. That's just to give you some added like motivation. Oh, thank you. ah Okay. So, the Sierra game, often called the precursor to King's Quest I, is a game called Wizard and the Princess.
00:49:45
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okay What was it retitled? when it was re-released in 1982 to the IBM PC. Was it retitled Adventures in Cyrenia?
00:50:00
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What the fuck?
00:50:05
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Yay! Okay. So out of a possible... 18, 19, 20...
00:50:13
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eighteen nineteen twenty Maybe your scoring system is better than mine. Out of a possible 20 points, you got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and a half, 6 and a half, 7 and a half. 13 and a half out of 20 points.
00:50:34
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Damn.
00:50:38
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But possibly 14 and a half out of a possible 20 points. Possibly? Possibly. I think that's pretty good. I think I did pretty good. Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:47
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All right. Let's play. More King's Quest trivia. Singy Singarino, and we'll come back and we'll write some adventure games before we go to take a little nap the night.
00:51:17
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Hey
00:51:29
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everyone, welcome back to Save Your Game. i am your host, Pushing Up With Me. pushing up with Pushing Up With Me. It's Pushing Up With Me to the oldies. Everybody get your sweatbands on and your ankle weights.
00:51:43
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It's Pushing Up With Me. Yeah, that's ah definitely the name of my workout workout video. Pushing Up Roses is my name, and with me, not pushing up with me, is my co-host, Matt Aukamp. Hi, Matt. hey Hey, everybody.
Ranking Adventure Games
00:52:02
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You might know me. Want to do some push-ups with me? You guys might know me as the quiz master from the last segment. I know...
00:52:09
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but but that like that that is That is now my claim to fame. But yeah, I'm wow you i'm just your humble little co-host of Save Your Game, Madocam. Nice.
00:52:20
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It's a good job. What are we doing now? We are going to rank for for the first time this year, the first ranking of 2026. We're going to rank every adventure game ever, whether we've played them or not.
00:52:33
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Yeah, it's fun to do this right after doing an episode where we ranked a bunch of games that we definitely did play and that we loved. And now we're going to rank a bunch of games that probably suck that we didn't play.
00:52:45
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Yep. That's what we do here. So... okay do you want to give them the rules? Yes, let me see if I remember the rules. It's been... a Listen, we're in a new year. yeah yeah And once you cross over that year, you have to... you have to you have to You forget everything that happens previous year. have your brain through tiny little pinhole that exists between years. And sometimes when you do that, it scrapes memories out.
00:53:16
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ah It's true. I don't remember anything except for what happens on Save Your Game. Isn't that nice? So ah some rules here is Matt's going to use a random generator to pick out some games. We are tasked with putting them in a ranking, which we already have 125 games ranked. Right now our top two are Portal 1 and Portal 2.
00:53:39
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We know they're not going to stay there. They're great games. They're not going to stay there. We are allowed one skip if we just feel like it. If we feel like skipping one. One skip episode, yeah.
00:53:51
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Yeah, upper per episode. Or if we have played any of the games that are already ranked, we can re-rank them. So let's say let's say I put King's Quest 2 as number 50 and then I played it.
00:54:05
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I now have a new opinion and I can move it up. Though you've you have already played it, so that wouldn't the case for King's Quest 2. Not for King's Quest 2, but like let me get to the hang on let me get to the rankings. So let's say if I play let's say i play Voyage Inspired by Jules Verne, which is currently at number 92. If I decide to play that game and I think it should change in ranking, I can do that. Fucking rules, dude.
00:54:31
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But that also means that I could put it lower if I think it's even crappier I thought. This game the worst thing I've ever fucking played. Exactly. they They use a slur in it. We have to put it lower.
00:54:43
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Nothing I don't think is ever going to go lower than Limbo of the Lost, though. I think if something uses a slur, we will put it lower than the note of the lost. Yeah, maybe so.
00:54:55
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So, wait, you said i use a random number generator to pick a game. where where Where am I picking these games from? From some kind of weird list that Matt found with like, how many guys? We found a list of like... I didn't find. i compiled this list well before the podcast when I had more free time and I was obsessed with adventure games. um Now I have way less free time and all my obsession of adventure games ah gets put into...
00:55:25
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actually playing interesting games yeah ah and talking about them on the show. Yeah. But there's like a list of what, 4,000 or did did it get cold? Yeah. It's so it's around 4,000. Okay, cool.
00:55:37
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That's a lot. That's a lot. It's a lot of adventure games. Strangely, that's the amount of games that were put out for the Nintendo when that came out. Yeah. um I should say a couple other little disclaimers. I stole this segment from from don't need to say from the Empty Bowl podcast. um They do it with cereals.
00:55:58
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um Number two, ah we have not updated this list for 2025. So there are 2025 games on here, but nowhere near all the adventure games that came out in 2025. That's fine. All right.
00:56:14
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um Roses, to start, I'm going to need to you to give me a number between 1 and 10. 5. 5. Uh-oh. Did I do a bad...
00:56:29
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No, you did so good. all right the first... Okay, so the the reason I have Rose's pick... um This is so fucking funny. The reason I have Rose's pick ah a number between 1 and 10 is because I do pull them ahead of time just to save us some time.
00:56:48
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And so i have you know I have them all broken up into little blocks. So you pick youbi block number 5, which starts... With number 860.
00:57:02
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From 2007. By a little developer called Grundoslav Games. Oh my gosh. It's Ben Jordan Paranormal Investigator K6. Scourge of the sea people.
00:57:16
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Well, clearly it's got to go by the other Ben Jordan games. There's two Ben Jordan games on here already. Okay.
00:57:27
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Yes, there's case seven and case one. yeah and we put them next to each other. ah Mostly to be funny. Also, because I've played case one. I've not played any of the other Ben Jordans. But they've gap got to be.
00:57:42
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this is This is absurd. We have to, you know, in um this year, roses. yeah And i need I need us both to commit to this. Okay. This year we will play the Ben Jordan games. Okay.
00:57:54
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And then we'll rank them appropriately. Yes, exactly. So do you... We're not just going to put a... Wait, what if we put this one like way away from the other ones and like...
00:58:06
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I like, like if ah if our our buddy, Grunaslav Games, AKA um Francisco Gonzalez, if he sees this list, he'll be like, wait, why is this one so far down? What's wrong with K6?
00:58:23
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ah So, and I mean, the thing is we haven't played it. Oh my God. Let's put it right below the seventh gust. What a burn. That is to me. All the way down at 73, you mean? Yeah.
00:58:37
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Like, okay, so this is, we're just doing this as a bit. We normally don't do these things as a bit. But, you know, he for listeners, ah one of the things that's interesting about this segment, I think, is that when we we talk about, not only do we talk about stuff that we know, um because we have a lot of adventure game knowledge, even though we haven't played a lot of these games, we also talk about... um We also often look them up. We're not looking this one up because we know about the Ben Jordan games. So before he made Lamplight City, before he made um a Golden Wake, before he made Rosewater, he made these games using...
00:59:16
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ah Adventure game system. And these would be like posted on the AGS forums, the big blue cup.com. I think it was called, and they were super popular. And like, that's kind of how Grundoslav built his name in this community. They're just, they're point and clicks kind of similar to Zach McCracken a little bit.
00:59:36
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Yeah. um But with a, but like if Zach McCracken was made by was a little less silly and was made by Sierra, um Weird combo. I know. I know.
00:59:49
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ah But, that you know, it's just, it's a, it's a guy, it's a paranormal investigator. Each one is like a specific case about some sort of folklore. So, um anyway, this is case six, Scourge of the Sea people. It's going at number 73. We're going to play them, guys. We're going to play them, okay? It's going at number 73 beneath the seventh guest. Man, wouldn't it have been funny if we put it all the down at like 120?
01:00:14
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no if we get another one If we get another one, it goes even lower. It goes even further down. Yeah, yeah we just keep going further and further down. And then we play them, and then we can put them where they belong. All right. Next on this list, from Pixel Quail Gamera Interactive.
01:00:31
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Oh, Pixel Quail is ah the... Okay, let me say that again. From Pixel Quail, it's the developer. It's a game from 2022. It's about a little dog in space. It's called Am I?
01:00:45
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I don't... Okay, I'm not familiar with this one. It's called am I? Am I. I remember when this game came out. I don't remember the opinions on it. It's on Steam.
01:00:57
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It is on Steam. It's called Am i Oh, here it is. Okay.
01:01:02
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Aww. It's about a cute little dog in space. Oh, my God. It looks adorable. um doesn't have too many. It's very indie.
01:01:14
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I'm just going to read a little bit of the reviews. It does say it is an adventure game. Or it it's an adventure game-like. It's kind of like Super Mario World in that. Or no, Super Mario Galaxies in that He's a big dog on a bunch of little planets and he's running around. like he's running Oh, it's Laika. It's Laika, the Russian dog from the the the like the Russian dogsmanat, the first dog in space.
01:01:42
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Yeah. It's cute. And you're running around and you're sobbing little...
01:01:51
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You're solving little puzzles. um Yeah. I mean, i don't... it it does It does look very cute. Kind of experimental in and artsy. i don't know how for a list like this, I don't know how how far I would put it up there.
01:02:06
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Because this is like ranking the greatest of all time. Right? And while it is very adorable, i don't know like how great it is.
01:02:17
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That said... Thinking about Laika always makes me cry. And art about Laika always makes me cry. so Well, don't do that. Don't I'm not going cry i right now.
01:02:28
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I'm not going to cry right now. Okay. But. He's going to cry later, though. I'm going to cry later. No, if I played this game, I could see myself crying. Yeah.
01:02:39
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Yeah. Okay, it does look yeah it does look like it has some meaning behind it, some unusual parts. I don't i don't know where I would really rank this.
01:02:53
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Yeah, it's kind of unlike, I mean, there's some weird and experimental games on our list, but this this one feels like it's different than most of the other games on our list. I think I would put it above that Chop Suey game.
01:03:05
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Right. There's another game that's kind of artsy and kind of, yeah you know, does that feel a little too low for a game that like this that looks like it has such a, well then, I was going to say a game that looks like it has such a point of view and such a idea. Yeah, yeah i i think done I think it could go around Sleuth Hounds, which is the 68, 69 area. Oh, right.
01:03:28
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right area Because we've got some kind of experimental cutesy games higher there. You're right. And I think, okay, okay what if you put it like between Sleuth Hounds and Dark Grim Mariupolis? I feel like AMI has a similar sort of flavor to Dark Grim Mariupolis. I do, too.
01:03:48
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Yeah, like an experimental but not like wildly experimental yeah sort of thing to them. I'm fine with that. All right. It is our new number 68.
01:03:59
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So close. um All right. This is another game from 2022. Another game I haven't played, but I i remember when it came out.
01:04:11
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It is $1.49 on Steam right now. oh So I'm just going to go ahead and add it to cart. It is by Calgary Games. It is called Whateverland.
01:04:24
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Now, okay. Okay.
01:04:28
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Here's the thing. It looks okay. So what what would you compare what this this game to?
01:04:39
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what's like ah What are some games that like are in this kind of style? a good question. um The overhead map reminds me a little bit of Monkey Island, but specifically Curse. It looks like it's kind of that cartoony 2D type of thing, but it doesn't have the style of Curse. It has a... um almost like ah an Adult Swim animated style. think so.
01:05:07
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I'm not quite sure what I would truly compare this to. Seems like it's like... ah Some of the walking parts. so it's it So it has a morality system.
01:05:20
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Oh, okay. You can you can be kind. Okay. Like you have different dialogue options and you can be kind or you can be shitty. I don't know if those like change the outcome of the story. There's a lot of mini games which are controversial.
01:05:37
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I think, you know, well, just meaning like the... the In the world of narrative games, in the world of especially point and click games, which this looks to be, ah minigames are very controversial with people. Some people love them. Some people hate them, right? Yeah. um But, oh, so I was looking at reviews on Reddit and ah and on on Steam. And apparently there's like one of these one of these games is called the Bells and Bones game that people seem to particularly hate. Okay. So are you you're saying it's a lot like The Seventh Gust?
01:06:16
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No, no, no, no, no. no okay I think it's ah it's like of an adventure game, but there is a game called – there are minigames in it. Okay. I don't hate that idea. There's a game here – well, yes.
01:06:30
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That's a – you know, a lot of adventure games have that. I think so too, yeah. Most adventure games we play, but some people, you know, dislike – dislike them whatsoever yeah yeah there's i mean there's even in the discussion forums on steam pretty much everybody's like i don't understand this game why am i playing this game this isn't good oh okay um It does sit with a very positive... Not the game itself, but the Bells and Bones minigame. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I mean, i feel I feel that way about some of the things in Sanitarium. It's like, why am I doing this?
01:07:07
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Some of the little mini, you know, the Slider-esque, you know, puzzle games. Like, why? um And in Toonstruck 2, remember, there was a few like stupid little mini games. But again, that doesn't quite... I don't think one game is going to drag it down too far for me. I think this is an interesting looking adventure game.
01:07:27
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I really do like the style. And it does look like... It does seem to be that, according to the devs, that your choices do matter. And that's always cool. I don't know. I don't know where... Seems lot of the voice acting... Like, I'm listening... I'm i'm watching the trailer. have voice acting, and i'm watching some gameplay. Voice acting seems pretty good.
01:07:46
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Good. Except for... And I hate when this happens. Except for the main character. I knew you were going to say that. um do we Do we have...
01:07:58
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a section for like these, these, these, these these games that are, you know, point and click inspired, like point and click games that, that clearly these, the developers were fans of the genre that were like, Hey, we want to make our own.
01:08:15
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And, but didn't, you know, didn't end up creating anything all that innovative, just kind of made ah point and click. I think that's kind of where we were. You know, i think i think we felt that way about sleuth hounds. I even kind of felt that. I mean, I hate the seventh guest as innovative as it is.
01:08:34
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But I don't think that describes the seventh guest, what I just said, though, right? I guess not. No, so guess not. I'm not sure. But. um So we should go lower that. But we do have like, yeah, around there we have like the will of Arthur Flabbington. We have like.
01:08:53
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Flight of the Amazon Queen is a great example of what we're talking about here. Yeah. i do I do think it should go lower than Flight. I was going to say this was interesting. Because Flight the Amazon has staying power. But it sucks.
01:09:06
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It only has staying power amongst people who are obsessed with adventure games. That's why I said it should go lower. You think this game should go higher than Flight of the Amazon Queen? Absolutely. Really?
01:09:17
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i really do. Okay. I would rather play this game than why don't we. Okay. Well, then why don't we split the difference there? Why don't we put it immediately above Flight the Amazon Queen? oh If you don't, if I feel like it definitely goes below or but ah above and you feel like it definitely goes below, then putting it right next to it seems only fair, right? Like that seems like we found a midpoint.
01:09:39
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Yeah, that's fair. All right. Whatever land is our new 56. All right. This list is crazy. It's crazy. All right. Our next game.
01:09:51
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I've never heard of this game, but maybe you have because it's it's it's clearly one of those games that shows up. You're weird, Sarah. Maybe you've heard of it. Shows up on Abandonware games, Abandonware sites and stuff. It is a game buy Soft Edge. Okay.
01:10:08
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Released in 1995. It is called...
Game Analysis: Art, Culture, and Rankings
01:10:12
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by it is called
01:10:16
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Cosmology of Kyoto. Oh, of course I know that game. You know that this game? Absolutely. This is the game that Roger Ebert said was the only game that was considered art. Roger Ebert said that our video games were not art until he played Cosmology of Kyoto. Then he said, yeah, of course, this is a a pretty important one. all right, then this goes to number one. no it does not. and As per Roger Ebert.
01:10:43
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Here's the problem. Video game expert Roger Ebert. The problem with this is I've played this game and didn't like it. It's based on the Tales of Genji, which is fucking cool. Like, i want I've always wanted to learn more about the Tales of Genji. It's, yeah yes, I mean, it's definitely it's definitely a game with a vision. Can you describe this game as best as you can to the listener? it The listener has no idea what the hell this is. So it's it is an adventure game, but it is it is set in... I don't know where it's set. It is a Japanese game. Feudal Japan.
01:11:22
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Okay. So it is but it is based on Japanese lore. i didn't get far enough into it, but I remember the artwork very distinctly. You're kind of in this like static screen, and you're moving around, and you come across... like ah not monsters, but creatures from Japanese folklore. And they're like right there on the screen.
01:11:45
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It's also a horror game. So it it kind of has this creepy element to it. Is there jump scares? Is there jump? I don't remember there being jump scared. I just think it is like, for example, some of the creatures look a little horrifying.
01:12:01
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I think one is even like maybe bloodied up. So and and some of the creatures just look strange. um I think this game is difficult. Does it have puzzles? OK. Yeah. Yeah. it um Yes.
01:12:14
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I couldn't figure them out, though. okay That's the problem, with the the I think, about this game is it's nonlinear. It's a lot of exploration. And I just didn't like it.
01:12:27
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I'm so sorry I didn't like this game. I just i found it difficult to navigate. and maybe And maybe that's because I was... Don't appreciate art. Yeah, I just don't appreciate it at Maybe because I was emulating it. I don't think this is anywhere that you can buy it right now. Okay.
01:12:45
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um So it could be that I was just having a hard time. You know what it kind of looks like? If you remember the horror soft games like Waxwork and like um the Elvira games, it kind of has that similar thing going on especially in the interface.
01:13:02
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But not FMV, right? No, it's not FMV. I can see why somebody might say this is a very artistic game. um i found it very difficult and I did not enjoy it. so but it has a But it apparently also has a place in video game history. like Yes, it does. Because this is the game that Roger Ebert considered art. It's the only one that he said, I played this game. And yes, this game is art. So that was a lot of talking to put it at number one as to Roger Ebert.
01:13:34
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Are we – wait, what? Are we? No, we're absolutely not. so Okay. Okay. For that, I think like – all right. Honestly, the thing remember doing the most in that game is just going from screen to screen. Okay. So, you know, base –
01:13:55
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Oh, and there's a character create creator in this game, apparently. Oh, geez. um it's It's very minimal, though. yeah Yeah. So,
01:14:08
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i I think base level, this game was apparently incredibly... Important, Guillermo del Toro is his favorite, one of his favorite games. Yeah.
01:14:22
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It is important, and it is cool looking. So I think base base level, we put this top half. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I mean, it has to go above things like... does it go but I don't think it goes above Phantasmagoria. I don't think it goes above Scratches. But that's my personal opinion. Right, because that those are those were actually... Those were, I think, a lot more... If this one was important to culture in... in Video games' place in culture, i don't know how important this game was to video games. Right.
01:14:54
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maybe Maybe a lot. But also, like... I don't know. Is this a game that... um you know game developers site very like very often and I don't know and like like I said it's tough because it's not accessible here's something very funny and sometimes especially today apparently we do a lot of stuff just because it's funny What if we put it right above Fatty Bear's birthday surprise? Do it.
01:15:25
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Don't do it. So you have – because i think that's I think that's a fair place to put it, right? Yeah. it's it's It's just a little bit below what we have on here. like Say 20 games that we would consider absolutely classic adventure games or modern games that we loved, right? The first, say, 20 games on here.
01:15:45
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ah And then yeah then we have Twilight Oracle, which is by Cosmic Void, and we love Cosmic Void. so but So honestly, if we were being fair, I'd probably book Cosmology of Kyoto right at number 21, right below our top 20.
01:16:03
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But it's so much funnier to put it next to Fatty Bear's birthday surprise. Yeah. And I want to say, want to tell anyone who's kind of listening to this and maybe feeling frustrated with our decision. i want to say that just because you are a first at something or that you were ah you know culturally important, that doesn't mean that you were the best at it. Right. The first person to win best music video was Michael Nesmith for Elephant Parts. He was the first person. And you don't remember that, do you? Or maybe you didn't even know that. So just because you are the first culturally important thing doesn't mean you are the best. So that's why it's not going like super. It's like it's not number one, even though, yes, roger it was a big deal to people. And Roger Ebert seemingly liked it. And I want to say to everybody out there, it's really funny that it's right next to Fatty Bear's birthday surprise. Matt's just being a snot. So, all right.
01:16:58
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Our next game. Number 2236 from by, man i'm gonna butcher this person's name, by Andrea Interguglielmi.
01:17:14
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Interguglielmi. okay It's a game called Nauticrawl. Man, that sounds like another game that was on this list. It's not. It's not the same. It just sounds like. Oh, is it a mislike? It is an interface game. So it is one of these games where you are basically, you know,
01:17:40
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you are sitting in what I guess is is kind of like a submarine. Yeah. And you have a bunch of, you know, levers and dials and...
01:17:52
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steering wheel and stuff in front of you. and your narrative is about how you slowly understand these controls.
01:18:04
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Okay, it's a simulation. It's a simulation, but... But with puzzles? So, it is using the concept of simulation to create a narrative adventure game. So basically... um You're not supposed to understand it at the beginning. There's not like a manual you can read or and then you just like you know how to use like pilot this ship. It um through puzzling.
01:18:36
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And apparently a lot of dying. Are you saying this is codename Iceman? no No. Through puzzling and a lot of dying, you slowly begin to understand this interface. We just talked about a game that was very similar to this called Panthalassa.
01:18:52
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i That I guess had a little more movement and maybe a little more ah
01:19:00
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a little more direct narrative. But
01:19:06
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yeah, it seems like you're trying to escape a hostile planet.
01:19:13
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This looks really fucking cool. It does. it's And and like I can say that, but I know that it's not a game for me. Right. So we're going to have, I don't know. it Is this a game for you? Is this a map game?
01:19:29
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it's it's It's hard to say. Yeah, I know. It's hard to say without playing these games. I've already, yeah. Yeah, because what we're doing is impossible and ridiculous, and that's the whole reason why we're doing it. Yeah. um
01:19:43
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It is a game that I am intrigued by. Okay. um It is a game that I think I'm going to add to my card immediately. like Okay. um
01:19:56
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Because I do... Yeah, I want to experience this game. It looks it seems like a real experience. it seems like It seems like something that is very thoughtful and that they've done... that they That somebody really had a vision. Yeah. And executed it.
01:20:12
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And, you know, and again, i like... i think interface games are really interesting, right? Where the narrative is just you have a bunch of buttons and levers in front of you.
01:20:23
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Like a simulation, like you like you explained, but not like we're going to walk you through how to do it and then you have to do a bunch of challenges. Yeah. Like like ah like a flight simulator or something. Instead, it is...
01:20:36
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The challenge, the story is about how you you learn the language of this machine in front of you. So again, you mentioned at the at the very beginning, the moment we started talking about this, you said, is this a mist like? Yeah.
01:20:55
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I think in a way, yeah. Yeah. Almost all the puzzles in Myst are that you walk up youve come up upon a machine yeah and you do not know how that machine works. But a game like Nauticraw or a game like Pantalassa, there's one machine.
01:21:09
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Right. And the entire narrative is contained within it. I think that's cool. I'm going to argue for this one to be...
01:21:20
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Above the mediocre block. But it can't go too high because we don't know anything about this fucking game. so I can agree with that because of the intriguing nature of it. So I'm looking around the 60s.
01:21:35
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Okay. That's actually where I'm at. like Okay. i like exactly I'm looking at through screen. so Maybe somewhere around like we were here for I'm going to clear out space here. But just because you see me clear out space here doesn't mean I'm making a decision. So I'm thinking somewhere around we were here forever, which is number 61. I'm thinking higher 60s.
01:21:58
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Okay. Through Abandoned. um I ended up really enjoying. Okay. Okay. So maybe it goes below that until i play like unless I play this game, obviously, and love it. Yeah, sounds like you're intrigued enough to give it a shot. So maybe you'll play it and you'll be like, oh, yeah, this this is great. I love this.
01:22:18
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I'm going to say, okay, if the if number 61 was ah We Were Here, the first of the We Were Here games, I would say it goes...
01:22:30
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Below it. But because this is We Were Here Forever, like the fourth We Were Here game. Yeah. I'm going to pitch Nauticrawl being above We Were Here Forever.
01:22:41
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That makes sense to me. And it is our new 61. Woohoo! Also, it was a game that just ah they just pulled some um interesting discussion out of us. so Yeah, definitely.
01:22:55
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ah can be down with that. Okay. down All right. Well, we've gone for a while. Do you want to try and do another block and then go? i think we should do a couple more. Just a couple more games. How are that what do you feel? Yeah, let's do another block of five and then we're done.
01:23:12
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Okay, what do you say what do you say? All right. no' do it Give me a number between one and ten. Do not say five. Eight. Okay. Interesting.
01:23:23
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That was a good block, though. Cosmology of Kyoto was on it. That's pretty that's pretty awesome. good block I had no idea that Cosmology of Kyoto was such a I'd never heard of it. Yeah, yeah. I'm a fake gamer boy. have a real gamer girl, though.
01:23:42
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um All right.
01:23:46
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Block number eight. number This is number 2,363.
01:23:53
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It's a 2020 game from Terrible Toy Box. oh Oh! Is this Thimbleweed? You'd think. Oh. It's Dolores, a Thimbleweed Park mini-adventure.
01:24:06
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Oh. Hmm. Okay. I didn't know. i didn't play it. I didn't either. i didn't know. And by the time I was done Thimbleweed Park, I was a little bit tired of Thimbleweed Park.
01:24:18
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That makes sense. when it was time to play Dolores, Thibbleweed Park mini adventure, I picked it up and I thought, ah oh, I didn't know. I did play this.
01:24:31
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For some reason, for some reason, when you said Dolores, I thought it was going to be a mini adventure with the other detective. But no, Dolores is the the game dev character. but You did play this. I did play this. Wow. Okay. All right. So how do you feel about it?
01:24:48
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It's cute. It's fine. I like it. For listeners, Thimbleweed Park is a is a like um throwback pixel. like chun like Not chunky pixel, but like almost like um mathematical pixel yeah adventure. like Grid-based pixel adventure like um like Maniac Mansion.
01:25:09
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um by Ron Gilbert, who yeah made Maniac Mansion. um And he released Thimbleweed Park is this as like a robot the la as a throwback. in yeah When was Thimbleweed Park released?
01:25:23
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Like 2016? 2017? 2017. Yep. You were real close. And then he released couple years later this... and then he released a couple years later this mini adventure featuring one of the characters um like one of the more beloved characters i would say from the game she was a game developer she was a she was she attempted to be a game developer and now she's back home um ah getting and she gets a job as a photographer for the nickel news so tell us tell us about this game
01:25:55
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To be honest, I don't remember much about it. It's pretty short. Okay. um But I'm like, I'm kind of trying to remember. I'm looking at like the objectives you're supposed to do and that's bringing back some memories. Like there's some objectives, just like all the Thimbleweed parks, you get like objectives. So you join the, like the, the photography team, like the journalism team.
01:26:17
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And then you get some stuff for your assignment that you're supposed to do. um And so you're still in the world of Thimbleweed Park, which kind of makes no sense. ah because I'm not going to s spoil it, but that's a little strange. um And yeah, you're you're just kind of working with the people to fulfill these objectives. So I think one of the objectives objectives is like getting a photo of somebody. um like writing a column, stuff like that. Right. Okay. So i I played, it says I only played six minutes of this, but I remember solving a couple puzzles. Yeah. Yeah. i remember solving, solving a couple of the puzzles.
01:26:58
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i I don't, I don't know. I feel like it almost would be less daunting than Thimbleweed Park. Yeah. Because Thimbleweed did get, it did grow tired on some people. I really love that game. I understand though what people are saying when they say they kind of grow weary of it. This is just a little mini adventure. So I don't really know where I would want to put it.
01:27:22
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Yeah. It's just a, it's just a pleasant, it's just a pleasant little game. It's a pleasant little point and click adventure game with a beloved character in an already established, well-liked world. What do we have on here? That's a pleasant little game.
01:27:38
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the what Am That looks like a pleasant little game. Okay. Do you want to put it between Am I and Sleuthounds? Yeah. right. Okay. I'm happy with it there. yeah We always tend to do this. I think we get, like, we get kind of, like, we start ranking them based or, like, relative to the games that we've already ranked that episode. But it kind of makes sense, though, and it's kind helpful. Yeah. Yeah, but...
01:28:07
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i wonder if that's frustrating to listeners okay number okay this next one is wild it is number i keep saying that about everything it is number 49 on ah on the list oo it is from 1986 it is by sierra what do you have a guess It could be it could be a few.
01:28:36
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It could be a few titles. It could be a King's Quest title. And if it was 86, it would probably be like three in that era. It could be a Space Quest game.
01:28:48
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It is a ah licensed game. Oh, no shit. Okay. A licensed? Is it an adventure game? Mm-hmm.
01:28:59
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Is it like, um oh, is it on the Black Cauldron? It is the Black Cauldron. Nice. Designed by Al Lowe. Oh, man, I did not like on that game. me yeah So we've talked about this a little bit. We haven't talked about it in depth, but I played this game and I did like it. You played this game and you didn't like it.
01:29:19
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yeah i didn't like the mechanic. It was a weird a weird gaming mechanic to me. Explain yourself. it's It's not – you can correct me if I'm wrong because it has been a while since I played this game. okay But it is not a traditional text parser game, as I recall. It's like you you can go up to things and like interact with them with like certain keys. I'm
01:29:48
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going to watch some of a walkthrough to see if I remember this correctly. sierra used an innovative idea that would not into the text parser was removed in paper if fun you are you are right you were right yeah why why do i have a memory of using a text parser in this game though i have a memory looks like every other yeah you but yeah they took away the text parser and you're mostly you're more so interacting um so you know tank tank controls right yeah i Yeah, so it it looks, okay, if you were to look at ah like screenshots of this game for people at home, if you were to look at screenshots of this game, I don't know why i always say for people at home, me and you are at home.
01:30:30
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Me and you are at each ah at at separate homes, are each individual homes. So when I say people at home, like they might not even be at home.
01:30:40
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I know we're at home. I don't know where they are. That's true. You're being very presumptuous right now. Yeah. So for listeners, um if you saw screenshots of this game, you might just think you were looking at a screenshot of ah King's Quest. Looks like King's Quest 3.
01:31:00
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yes Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Looks very, very similar to just like ah a King's Quest game. And the backgrounds look very King's Quest-y. But there is a mood to this game. Like, King's king's Quest games don't always have a mood. it feel They feel just like... Yeah.
01:31:18
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I don't even know. they they they They don't feel like a piece of art. Yeah. always yeah they don't feel as fleshed out this is working off of a story that was fleshed out so it has the benefit of that so this this game has a mood i think that's what i liked about it and i think i liked that it was a little easier than some of the other kings than some of the other games around there so um
01:31:44
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yeah so this is a controversial one then hmm
01:31:49
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I think it's one of those games that pissed people off, but they like it anyway. Yeah. Because it is so memorable. That gives me a perfect spot for this. Okay. those was One of those games that pissed people off, but they liked it anyway. Yeah.
01:32:04
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And it's a classic Sierra game, so it's going to go probably towards the top. Yeah. Right around the 20 to 30 block, we have games like Orion Burger and Goblin's Quest and Amnesia and Book of Unwritten Tales, Critter Chronicles. A ton of games that, very specifically...
01:32:26
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Piss people off, but they like them anyway. Yeah, I agree. i agree with that. We can put it around. Even Professor Layton. And in fact, I'd say, what if we put it below Professor Layton, but above Goblins Quest 3?
01:32:40
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I will do that, but only because I really don't like the Goblins game. I'm so mad at them. All right. It's our new 31, The Black Cauldron by Sierra. Holy shit. Okay. We have three more.
01:32:55
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this episode so this next one next one is number 2236 it's from deceptive games it's from 2019 it is a game called room 208 that sounds very familiar don't know why it was it's just the name of a room
01:33:15
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You guys stayed in a room 208. You may have stayed in a room 208 before. What was our hotel name in London? Was it 208? It was probably 208. Okay.
01:33:27
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Supposedly this game is very buggy and very glitchy and very and was not ready to be released. and Oh, that sucks. um Never revised. um It is a horror game.
01:33:40
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First person. Looks very pretty.
01:33:46
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Yeah, it it's giving me the vibe of um that lust, beyond lust. I'm going to say lust from beyond. Yeah, yeah you're right. Because, yeah, it's like some of it. Okay, I'll say this.
01:33:59
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Some of these assets look pretty and some of them look like they were, you know, some of them look like they were plucked out of, like,
01:34:11
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um the longest journey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. um and the here's... Okay.
01:34:24
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Here's a big knock against it. Even the trailer... has a low frame rate like there's flame frame rate issues in the trailer i know i can see it i just we can't put this very high afraid it's mostly negative on steam it it it's for 79 cents Yeah.
01:34:47
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on I mean, good effort. Anybody who creates something and puts themselves out there is very hard. And any any kind of creating is great. Thumbs up. ah But, you know, when you push it as a product, then that's different. This is not the game Oxide Room 208, which is a totally different game. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
01:35:06
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This is just Room 208. Yeah, I don't see any... Outside of Steam, I don't see i don't see any reviews for it. I don't see any, like, gameplay. Let's see.
01:35:17
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Did anyone play... Is there, like, a playthrough on YouTube of Room 208? I'm kind of doubting it.
01:35:27
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That's my point. It's like, did no one play this game? Okay, yeah, there are. There are a few. there are Well, there are two. Um... um
01:35:39
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And it looks like this guy finishes the game or quits the game m in ah about 45 minutes. Yeah, quits the game. okay Oh, gosh. Okay. Yeah, I think i think low.
01:35:54
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I think pretty low. I think pretty goddamn low. I think pretty low. i think we're looking at like. I think we're looking at like the Abyssal Zone era area of low. So like above Super Jazzman, which we decided looks pretty racist. yeah um I don't remember some of these games. like that that When we get down to the 110s. Yeah, it's tough.
01:36:18
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I don't remember the Abyssal Zone. I don't remember Mia's Mata. i don't But I feel like Room 208 goes above Super Jazzman and Blue Force. Yeah, I think so. think that's fair. And I feel like I am just like arbitrarily deciding it goes above as Mata. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Because some of the yeah yeah, we can't be like pinpointedly accurate because these are all just opinions anyway, you know?
01:36:43
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All right, I'm looking at Mia's Mata again, and yeah, it is it's very similar. like Kind of like there's some nice at some good assets, some shitty assets. It's like three d Though the reviews for Mia's Mata are mostly positive, while the reviews for Room 208 are mostly negative. So let's put it below. in below Room 208 goes below Mia's Mata. Yeah. Sorry, sorry Room 208.
01:37:07
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but Sorry. You didn't. You don't. You don't. You're not a Ben Jordan game. You don't get either. All right. Two more. This game, number 1,856 from 3y3.net from 2017. That really does sound like 2017-ass developer name. It does.
01:37:29
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So this game is a female protagonist. Cool. Third person indie adventure game. It's called Solaria Moon.
01:37:43
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Okay. Solaria Moon. doesn't look like Doesn't look like it made much of an impact. Yeah. um There's one.
01:37:58
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i can find one review anywhere. um besides Besides Steam. I can find one review anywhere and it is 10 out of 10. Oh.
01:38:09
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um on Steam. It's mixed. Yeah. um This style of adventure game is not really for me. It reminds me like, Jane Jensen's Grey Matter. It's that, like, first-person adventure game. it is It is not my favorite to interact with or look at Man, yeah, we're getting the... There's a lot of negative reviews.
01:38:34
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It says they're mixed, but... It's reminding me of, like, Keepsake. Like the game Keepsake. ah Yeah, these sort of like, I don't want to call them low effort. That's mean. No. rare i find These generic-y that. It late. Yes, late for that.
01:38:56
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three d adventures yes that happened from twenty you know twenty twelve to twenty so around twenty seventeen like this is late yeah for that it is late yes it is late for that like these usually they Most of these stopped around 2015. I would put this a kind of low.
01:39:16
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Maybe even... maybe i't think I don't think I would put it... Okay, what were you going to say? kind of by where we were at with the abyssal zone i think it can maybe go i think it can actually go above room 208 though well yeah i was gonna say actually a chunk higher i was gonna say more near like uh mazovian adventure and lifeless moon and lunar axe okay i'm fine with that looking up at like well this is the mediocre block because randall's monday is there
01:39:49
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Remember, all our blocks are moving because yeah we're getting more games. So the mediocre block is dropping. I think we put it in the mediocre block. It seems like a very mediocre game. Okay.
01:40:00
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And because it seems like a mediocre game that you wouldn't like, I think we put it towards the bottom of the mediocre block. So I think we put it like at like 95 between Cleopatra Riddle of the Tomb and Suicide of Rachel Foster.
01:40:16
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Okay. what do you think? Yeah, I'm fine with that. that feels like That feels like about where both of us are talking about. Yeah. we're like and mediocre Mediocre, but not medior the low side of mediocre, right?
01:40:30
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Yeah. Man, we never skip any. I keep looking at the games that are, I'm going to have to rotate what games are in the, as in like the, the jump seat, the skip position. I like skipping ones. I like to look at all of them, you know, the if we skip, this is what's there. So I'm going to have to rotate those because yeah there's just a bunch that have just been sitting in those and we'll never get to. All right, so next one 2,735 from Interior Night Games. From 2022, it's called As Dusk Falls.
01:41:06
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And I've seen this game. It looks very pretty. Yeah, I've seen this game before as well. I think it is kind of like one of these... um It reminds me of like like the Don't Nod games, like um Life is Strange. Oh, okay, okay. It's got a very Life is Strange vibe to Yeah, it does.
01:41:28
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And won some awards, got a lot of really great reviews in 2022, the year that it came out. It looks really cool. It does look really cool. it looks like I mean, it looks really nice. It looks like – is this rotoscoped?
01:41:46
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It might be. It's certainly – it's interesting. I was going to say I really like the style. It is like painterly rotoscope, whatever that means. It's like photos that have been sort of like painted over. Yeah.
01:42:01
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I like it. I think it looks really sharp. like it too.
01:42:06
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But also, it kind of gives that style also kind of gives like hidden object because some of those characters, you know what I'm talking about, they kind of look that way. Like static, kind of painterly and kind of strange. I would put this kind of higher because it it looks good. Honestly, if I found this on Home of the Underdogs in the day, I'd be like, yes, I want to play this.
01:42:28
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I'm thinking, you know you know what this reminds me of? some Some of these other games that we saw in this and we are immediately like I would absolutely play that I'm actually like the stuff that it's kind of like damn it kind of sucks that we I haven't played that like that's a game that if I had played I think I would have loved yeah examples of that are like Pine Hearts Midnight Girl Wavetail so I'm looking up around
01:43:00
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ah the low 30s oh that's really high yeah I mean, we can we can bump it down ah if you want. No, I think that makes sense. It does look really good. The first thing I was thinking of is, you know, where we have our little block where we have, like, the Agatha Christie's and the Nancy Drew's and the Carol Reads. Like, the way that we grouped all those together in Murder, She Wrote.
01:43:23
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Yeah. um I was thinking, like, um maybe it goes a lit just above those. And then i then Wavetail, Pine Hearts, Midnight Girl, those all caught my eye. And I was like, oh, it kind of goes there, doesn't it?
01:43:35
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Yeah. Yeah. So that said, I'm going to make some space on the document right around those. And let's look let's let's look at them closely because since this is a little higher,
01:43:49
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we've got to put some thought to this. Yeah. So Pine Hearts I did play and I liked. Yeah. I liked it was very cute, but it wasn't all that meaningful to me. and I remember we thought Midnight Girl looked really intriguing. Yeah.
01:44:05
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And I played a little bit of it and I didn't love it. Yeah. um Wavetail looks very artistic, kind of like this game. It doesn't look like this game, but it looks like like something that somebody put a lot of work into and would win awards and people would love. Yeah. um So I'm going to put it below Wavetail and above Pine Hearts. And just tell me tell me when you look at it, does it look like it belongs there? I think it does.
01:44:34
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i think it even I think if I played it, I would rank it higher. That's what i think. But I haven't played it, so I can't. You think you'd rank it above Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise? Yes. And, like, you know, I see Orion Burger up there, too. and like i think Like, this is going to be better than Orion Burger. Yeah, exactly. But I haven't played it.
01:44:53
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Yeah, but we're being idiots. It's got to go above Orion Burger. Hold on. Okay. No, we're being ridiculous here. Okay. Let's move it. Okay. You're right. We do have these there, but like it's it's got to go above Orion Burger.
01:45:07
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Let's maybe put it right below Cosmology of Kyoto, which puts it above Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise. Which, look, I love Fatty Bear. That's a classic. I want to put it below Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise. Oh, controversial. I actually kind of want to put it below Been There, Dan That and put it down at 25. That sounds right.
01:45:27
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Honestly, I just wanted to keep Fatty Bear's birthday surprise next to Cosmology of Kyoto. What is wrong with you? But, but, but, but. Uh-huh. Then I was like, I really like Ben there, damn that.
01:45:39
Speaker
Yeah. it's like it's like It's like silly stupidness. Yeah. But it is like a lot of really fun silly stupidness. Yeah. And I like, yeah, I like what those guys do.
01:45:51
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Yeah. Yeah, so same. Okay. Well.
01:45:57
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Jeez. So we just, we, we, we stretched this list out to 135 games. Amazing. out sometimes i make good Sometimes I make you read the whole list.
01:46:11
Speaker
I am not doing that. Let's skip that for this time. if We're going to skip. We're going to skip that. But next time we do this, I'm going to make you read the whole list. Okay. Because it's been, I think, two or three times.
01:46:23
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of doing this segment. i'll warm I'm pretty good at it, honestly. I'm pretty good at speed running this list. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when we... When next we do this, Roses will read the entire list. Man, I can't wait till we get to like 4,000. And you have to read the entire list. It's just the whole podcast. Just me reading things. Man. Okay. Wow. we This list is really robust now.
01:46:51
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It is We have 135 games on here. Has anyone ever ranked 135 adventure games? Well, nobody's ranked no to fucking 50. but No, they didn no there was that there was that Adventure Gamers list by Jack Allen where he ranked the 100 best adventure games of all time. And you know what We fucking blew his list out of the fucking water. The problem is we haven't played most of these games.
01:47:16
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And you know what, Jack? This is where your list goes.
01:47:22
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No, I'm kidding. I love Jack. And I think that list is incredible. I've referred to that list many times. Those have actual good games on there. Yeah, yeah, exactly. you want games that are really weird, here you go. Yeah, yeah. Games that we've never played, and yet we are telling you good or bad they are. All right.
01:47:44
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Roses. Yes. Thank you for recording this podcast with me. You're welcome. And listeners, thank you. Thank you for listening to this podcast with me and roses. Yeah. Thank you.
01:47:57
Speaker
um What do you want to tell the people?
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01:48:00
Speaker
Well, ah if you would like to interact with us or even better interact with other adventure game lovers, join our discord. We'll have that link in the show notes. It is always hopping. You guys, we love talking about adventure games.
01:48:15
Speaker
And everything else. but all All of the nerd things. so Just imagine it as a very small nerd convention. That's kind of what it's like. um If you want to get updates or just see some silly photos, follow us on Instagram. Maybe I'll post some of my weird little guys and as adventure game characters. Yeah, I want to see somebody make this adventure game with your weird little guys. My weird little guys. You need some you know you need some stop motion animators. little toddling. And you need some. and then you And then, you know, it's easy. Then you just get a game developer to make a game out of them. It's super easy.
01:48:52
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it's It's a singe. Simple. So that's Save Your Game Podcast on Instagram. You can also email us if you have questions or rants or raves. Or if you want to give me a suggestion for a weird little guy. MattandRoses at gmail.com. And I think I only have. Well, I mean, do you have anything to say? but I have always important things to say. But do you have something important to say?
01:49:14
Speaker
Um. I don't know. You can check out my other podcast, Mutant Menace. We just launched a Patreon. um i don't And I'm on one of the – I don't think we mentioned this. I was a special guest on one of the recent episodes. You were a special guest on recent episode? It was really great. We have had a bunch of – we've had a string of really cool guests recently. so And Rose's is, let's just say, the best of them.
01:49:38
Speaker
That's true. It's me. You're not supposed to say it's true. You're supposed to say, like, Andre is the best or something. terrible. i No, not, youre know you know. only go one direction or the other. i can't ever get you stay in the middle.
01:49:53
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I'm a woman of extremes.
01:50:00
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Do you have anything coming up on Pushing Up Rose's YouTube channel? There's going to be a new Murder, She Wrote up soon. Oh my god, yes. So stay tuned for that. Those are always great. And I'm just going to give you a little sneak peek.
01:50:12
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They eat the murder weapon.
01:50:17
Speaker
ah They eat it. That's what happens. So yeah, that's probably going to be in the, in the title somewhere as well. So it's going to be so fun. It's great. It also, the episode takes place in New York. So I do a lot of like, Hey, I'm walking here.
01:50:32
Speaker
yeah, stay tuned. Go check out Matt's ah podcast. Mutant menace. Check out my YouTube channel. There will be a new murder. She wrote up soon. And I want to know one thing. The what?
01:50:43
Speaker
I want them to know one thing. Oh, okay. What would you like the people to know?
01:50:49
Speaker
podcasts And I've thought about this a lot. I know. can tell. Podcasts is art. And art is supper.
01:51:00
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Yay!