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Reclaiming Your Vision with Maria Semple
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Maria Semple is an accredited and professional coach, mentor and author of her book, “Everyday Stories from Ten Remarkable Women.” With an educational foundation in Business, Maria has earned a Master Practitioner of Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) Coach from the esteemed Tad James Company. Her commitment to professional excellence led her to complete additional studies in leadership, coaching, and mentoring with Fire Up Coaching.
Maria’s professional journey, spans over 18 years, in diverse roles in State Government, Non-for-Profit Organisations and the Private Sector. This rich experience honed her insights in key business areas and propelled her transition from a traditional employee structure to an entrepreneur, evolving her experience in personal and business coaching.
Beyond her achievements, Maria derives a lot of satisfaction as the creative force behind the late ’90s pottery business known as “Tierra & Fuego.” Her creations found acclaim across the Americas, Asia, and Australia, demonstrating her entrepreneurial flair.
Maria has been driven by a threshold of calculated risk and a low tolerance for boredom, propelling her continuously to create and reinvent herself and seek new horizons. Maria’s book, “Everyday Stories from Ten Remarkable Women,” serves as an inspirational foundation, encouraging individuals to align with their passions and values, fostering real and enduring change.
Get it touch with Maria through Linked-in, Facebook or via email [email protected]
To find out more info check out her website and YouTube
Transcript
00:00:07
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Hello everyone and welcome to another exciting episode of Otterly Positive Talks. I got my friend Maria Semple on today, and she is a light coach, professional coach, mentor, and she's got this really cool program called Reclaiming Your Vision, and it teaches people how to to shape their own depth. So I think that all the listeners are going to learn a lot today. So welcome to the show, Maria.
00:00:35
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Thank you so much, Jeff. It's lovely to be here with your audience and good afternoon. Yeah, thank you. um So maybe you can give us an overview of how your vision of reclaiming your vision actually works and we're ah where you take your ah the people that you're working with.
00:00:56
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Thank you, yes. Well, it was a fun journey to find a good name for my program. And you know what Edie said from the personal development world, that your pain is related to your purpose.
00:01:14
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So when I thought about it, I felt that the right name for my program was to reclaim your vision, and rewrite your story. Why? Well, I felt when I was a child, I had a vision of myself of being a teacher, a mentor of some sort. However, life happens, as all our audiences will testify. And I felt that I lost the vision of who I wanted to be. And so you get married, you move countries, and you have to, ah business fails, you join the workforce. And when I joined the Australian workforce, and ah you you're listening your listeners will be wondering where is that accent from? So I was born in Venezuela, and I came here in the late 80s.
00:02:10
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so When life happens and all these things that I've mentioned before, I joined the workforce, but I joined it as a contractor. and Because it was not a permanent job, but then you know it was the ups and down of contract work and moving from one contract to the next. Learning a lot of skills, yes, I will admit that.
00:02:36
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But also I felt that I took it personal when the contract was not extended or a job, more substantial role was not offered. So every with every job cancellation, with every upheaval of this path that I've taken, I felt that I lost more and more the vision of who I wanted to be.
00:03:03
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And you know I also discovered that i you know there we are expected to be 45 years in the workforce, but I started late because I was a migrant in my late 30s, then I had children and so on. So I started around when I was in my nearly mid 40s.
00:03:27
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ah So it was quite difficult to adjust to a new workforce, to a new workplace environment. But also, you know what? To keep my authenticity, the warm person that I am or I was as well, coming from a Latin culture.
00:03:50
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So I guess that with these upheavals and the journey of many years of contract work, there was a point where I will also confess to the audience I managed to allocate my buckets to my personal and professional development. Something that if you think about it, Jeff, this is allocated for people that have full-time jobs. Their organization will send you to develop new skills or courses. But because I was a contractor, I had to do that myself out of my own money. So I was very proud that I'd
00:04:35
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went to study business and I went to study careers that were aligned with that vision that somehow I had lost but I still found it somewhere. So I guess that um You know, the the last contract, when it was canceled, it was short after the pandemic. And many of us were suffering from the isolation problem plus other experiences that happened during this pandemic period. So I decided that it was, after the the last cancellation, that it was time for me to do something drastic.
00:05:21
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and The one thing that came to mind at the time was the definition of insanity. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So I went traveling to around the east coast of Australia with my dog and during that time I felt that I was called to do more of what I love.
00:05:49
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So I hope that kind of answers in a long way, but in a very kind of comprehensive way, a little bit about myself and about this program. Yeah, that's it. like the Just listening through, you telling the story, it's fantastic. and And so much of it rings true for me.
00:06:11
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um also being a migrant to Australia and assimilating into the culture here. and ah But then also the starts and stops with work. you know I've had a pretty volatile career since I moved to Australia and um as a result, i I made the same kind of decision, same time as you did it. It sounds like we're,
00:06:42
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ah I just had to do something more purposeful than simply working for others. And ah not not that that's ah necessarily a bad thing if you love your job and that, but I never did.
00:06:58
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i never I never liked the people I was working for. I didn't i didn't believe i didn't believe in their morals or ethics. um I thought they ah many times I got hurt because I um was unwilling to compromise on what I believed in. And so now just That's why I started The Laughing Honor. on yeah we I guess that pain defines your purpose and I like that ah statement because they like it really does ring true. but So much of The Laughing Honor is a result of things i I really don't like in this world. So true.
00:07:44
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yeah So when when you're when you're talking and coaching to to to people, um what where are some of the tips that you that you give them on helping to define their vision and and their purpose? Yes, certainly. Well, you know, this ah program ah was a result of ah many years of studies, but also ah things that I felt that work for me. And that's why, you know, there are hundreds and thousands of coaches around the world. But there is one that identify you identify with, one that their pain and their purpose identify with
00:08:33
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the person that's listening, you're the audience or or the people around the world. And I think that's why each program is unique because it is unique because you are unique. And I felt that the six steps that I created for my program Reclaim Your Vision, Rewrite Your Story, where focus on our mindset, our inner focus of you the fear that we have to move forward in life, and also how we communicate this purpose or this new fine vision or passion
00:09:16
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into the world around others, seizing opportunities and so on. So I put together these six steps. So in terms of coaching, yes, coaching is a very powerful partnership between the coach and the client or the coachee. However, the program is structured. And why? It is structured because it gives you some kind of purpose to go from one step to the next, uncovering layers that you may have on your subconscious mind that are not quite aligned. And that's why the first step is called step up.
00:10:01
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throw the hat in the ring and this is a colloquial expression right that you know in the 19th century this expression came about when people virtually threw their hat in the ring to join the fight and so I found it that that and And some of my my um the people that I have shared the programme with, they found even the word, throw the hat in the ring, a very ah kind of visual and ah step to be committed, to show commitment for what you want to do.
00:10:40
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So the program is, um the first step is about identifying limiting beliefs or what we call it, limiting beliefs. The audience might call it something different, self-negative talk. Everybody calls it different ways. I wonder how you call it, Jeff.
00:10:57
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You know what I mean? So this is a simple step that invites the person, the client, to identify, um let's put an example, I will never make it on my own.
00:11:12
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let's Let's assume that that is a limiting belief. And then so we go through four key questions. And do you believe that that is true? And how do you feel that when you believe that thought, and you know what would it be a ah better thought to have? And and so on. So it takes from one belief and the set of questions to challenge your thinking.
00:11:42
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And the second step that we utilize in this first is about emotional intelligence, and not because it is a the emotional intelligence that measures leadership. If you think about it, Jeff, we are all leaders in our own right.
00:12:02
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And therefore, measuring where you are at in those capabilities of your own leadership journey, it brings you a lot of data, a lot of information about yourself and your current journey in life. And even it may show you what might not be working for you. I'll give you an example.
00:12:27
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At the time that I took my um emotional intelligence review, it was still coming out of the pandemic. And I had been through strong personal challenges. So my straightforwardness, the capability of being straightforward, came very low. That meant that I couldn't at the time bulldoze someone with my answers. And it took me
00:13:04
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commitment, practice, really commitment and viewing myself that there was no need for me to bulldoze someone with my answers. That I wanted to listen and to be more open to their point of view as well as showing assertively for them to respect my point of view.
00:13:29
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Like this, we have 10 other capabilities in leadership. so This is why I am so excited about the first step because it is the first point to throw your hat in the ring. Does that make sense to you? Yeah, yeah absolutely. and i um i i Because I'm now so involved with mental health um and I speak to people like yourself all the time, one thing that's come really clear to me,
00:13:59
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is how debilitating society is when you're growing up with regards to that throwing the hat in the ring. and it's It starts when you're a child. Everybody remembers a time very vividly, every almost, well, i'm I'm assuming almost everybody has a moment in elementary, middle, high school where they where they were ridiculed, made a mistake, you know that sort of thing.
00:14:36
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and the they that It's such a disproportionate reaction when someone makes a mistake how society just loves to laugh at people. And even like all the websites, the fail websites, the making fun of people, that' this whole denigrating people uh whereas it's it's so disproportionate to nobody remembers a time when they got the question right nobody remembers it where they did something correctly because it's it's almost ah like well that's what you're supposed to do but you make a mistake we'll we'll rip you apart and but that that leads
00:15:22
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people to be so afraid to step out and like you said, throw their hat in the ring because it is such a, the so disproportionate, the ridicule you get from making a mistake ah versus the accolades of doing something well. And that's right from, ah yeah, that's that's across the board.
00:15:51
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ah ah Even like I played a lot of sports, I can remember every time I hit the post and I rarely remember any goals that I scored. So, and it's it is so ingrained in us that it is, um yeah, it's interesting and different cultures are a little stronger than others. I i taught English in Korea.
00:16:17
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and that Asian culture, like nobody steps out because of that ridicule. um o but but it's But it's no different in Western Europe. I saw an interesting quote the other day where it's like but you kind of related to this is that no No billionaire will ever ridicule you for starting a business. no No musician will ever ridicule you for writing a song. No athlete will ever
00:16:51
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criticize you for trying. and it's it's it's really it's just it's society Society tends to be the people who don't appreciate how hard it is, are the ones that are in the most likely to rid ridicule. And so Um, I, I think it's a narrative that I do see is changing. I see a younger generation that is much more brazen, much more full of self-confidence, at least at this level. There's some other, um, emotional things that need to be addressed, but you know, kids are kids. ah There's a whole generation that's willing to, to try to at least when it comes to success.
00:17:39
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So, yeah, no, those your first two points definitely definitely resonate and I see examples of it all the time. Yeah, thank you. I am very pleased with what you're saying about the younger generation as well. And I think they, yeah, to to give things a go, to be more aware. I think we are.
00:18:06
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With these young ones, I ah do have a granddaughter and she's 16. I do have a lot of hopes that, you know, her determination to play sports and have a good little job and saving and, ah you know, it will help to create more consciousness about what these older generation ourselves have helped to destroy our planet in many ways and our set ways as well because you know I would confess that I was influenced by my cultural background being from a Latin culture and let's face it possibly you know the challenging
00:18:55
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farewell country or develop in developing cultures. and my parents there my My father was born in 1914, my mother was born in 1925. I always said it's something that I included in my program as well as values.
00:19:17
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I was influenced by their values. Their values were around hard work, loyalty, fight for your freedom. Well, it doesn't have to be all the time about fighting. And this is what it is. Our subconscious mind focuses more on the fighting side of things, and you know and rather and they also value education. But you know what I mean? Our parents have such a big influence in our values. So it's something that
00:19:49
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if we're not aware of what are the values that will take us to reclaim that vision of ourselves to how can we metaphorically rewrite a new story then we will always be at the mercy of our ego, our unconscious mind and the influence of social media or society. And that's why I love so many of us creating new awareness, new purpose with what we are doing, Jeff.
00:20:29
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And I think where where I see a tremendous opportunity and and I hope this is a message that younger generations get is that that vision of who you want to be needs to be your vision. And it and and this whole mentality of what what um, where I'm really lately have really struggled with or ah not, not struggled with, but what I, what I see that I don't like is this message to, um, to everybody. And ah and especially the younger generation is this idea that you have to be smarter, richer, uh, more educated,
00:21:25
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driving better cars and nicer clothes, hanging out with better looking people in and more exotic locations in order to be happy. And even when we talk about like the brazenness and the the the confidence,
00:21:40
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to you know start your own business and stuff like that. I sometimes wonder if people are doing it for the wrong reasons. I i like i love the science of business and the pursuit of the laughing order has nothing to do with whether or not I'm going to make so like ah ah a Fortune 500 list or the fastest growing this or something. It's got nothing to do with that.
00:22:07
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um And what so in what I do see, unfortunately, is I see a lot of people who are doing things because they think that's going to make them happy in the as ah as a goal rather than doing things because that makes them happy. um i I especially see it in the arts. it like You're not allowed to play guitar anymore unless you're going to be another like unless you're going to be another famous musician or YouTube influencer. There's no point in playing a sport unless you're going to play on the elite team. like
00:22:47
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I don't see where we played sports growing up with no aspirations to be anything but every weekend we were in the playground together just playing for the sake of playing where I don't see kids doing any of that. So there's there's a fine line of this that I see that I Like, for my son, i like I hope that he does things because he likes doing them, not because um he sees it as a means to being happy. The happiness should happen now.
00:23:22
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Yeah, that well, definitely. i I agree in many areas with what you're saying. um I guess yeah if someone has the wrong intention when creating a business, they will soon will find out the the reality because yeah We are here for the long run, for you know the ups and downs and being consistent with the strategies. I dislike very much in the in the ah area of coaching where I see in social media, okay, $10 for this PDF where I share with you my seven figures in 30 days.
00:24:10
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What a whole lot of crock-a-booshing here, right? And it's unethical. So I guess... And programs like my program, it's 90 days. And from day one to day 90, you will understand and you will find that you're not in the same place where you started, but he it's gradual increment. And also there is a compounding effect. and So in terms of
00:24:43
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you know, our our children playing, yes, they have so much influence from social media. I i want to share with you, Jeff, that I i was traveling in South Australia, and and early this year in, well, April, four months ago, and I bump into this group of young a young family from WA, they have converted a bus into a tiny home and were traveling all around Australia. They had four girls and they were so well adjusted. They were homeschooling them, traveling around. The girls came immediately. I traveled with my dog and they introduced themselves
00:25:35
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You never saw them with an iPad playing games. They ah came and asked me, the Elvis one is about 11. And you know what she said, she said,
00:25:47
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I have a business taking care of dogs. So if you ah need someone to take care of your dog while you're here, I will be happy. And I just like was so excited to see this group of kids so well adjusted.
00:26:05
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they you could not say that they weren't missing anything of modern life. we I saw them playing somewhere and I approached them another day and they were collecting lemons from somewhere in the ground that they found and I said let's go and make lemonade. So ah we we went into my my campsite and my camper and I found my ah honey and we made lemon juice and we look it was the best experience to see these young kids. I needed to go to the shops and I didn't want to leave my little doggy inside the camper
00:26:47
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So I asked the eldest girl, would you like to get paid for a couple of hours? And she took care of my dog. And it was really beautiful to see. So I hope that there is more parents as well that are willing to take more adventures and risk and exchange they what nature has to offer And their kids will experience that. They will remember that. But there is not many people, because everybody's so busy with their lives, ah you know, messages that I get. I'm too busy to respond to your email, Maria, and this. So I guess we all live with the values of what you value the most, if you know what I mean, Jeff.
00:27:46
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Well, I think in theory, everybody lives would love to live what they value the most, but unfortunately, ah
00:27:59
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so many people I know are living in a situation where They are they're living this artificial life that you know of what it means to be a parent, an adult, successful, a good person, and it but it has nothing that aligns with what they really makes them happy. ah i was I did a sales course once. and i The only thing I got really out of the sales course was Um, they did an exercise, you had to write down the five things that made you happy. And then they, they said, well, write down your five goals. And, and then they said, compare the two. And what was blatantly obvious is that nobody's goals aligned with what makes them happy in life. And so it's like, what, what, what makes you happy spending time with my kids?
00:28:56
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what's your goal in life ought to be, you know, the the top of the global sales, top global sales thing. Uh, so, you, so now you work 70 hours a week, you know, like that, that's, that's the kind of disconnect. And I see that a lot. Um, just in a and my own life, like my little brother, uh, never seen a man so happy in, in years. Um,
00:29:23
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And, you know, five years ago, he got all of his tickets and everything like that. And now he sails boats around the world, sailboats. And t he would he happened to be here in Australia ah recently and sitting around the fire having a beer. And he was just talking about how some of his friends from high school were kind of miserable and stuff. And I'm like, yeah, well,
00:29:51
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that not everybody gets to disappear from the world and head out in the middle of the ocean. And then when they do land, it's Fiji and Tahiti, but it's he, he found a calling in life and ah a vocation that suits him. And, and so he's happy. Uh, you know, like that's the last three years for me have been as much fun as any time in my life because I just get to make people happier. That's all I want to do. And I like having fun. I have a simple belief in this world that life doesn't have to be this hard, and we should all be having way more fun. So with the Laughing Lauder, we're creating events and content and things for people to do and at see and read. That is just fun. There's no overarching ah hidden agenda behind any of it. It's just, yeah, I want to see people laugh more and have more fun. and
00:30:50
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ah have more fun with their neighbors and whether that's locally or internationally. just and so it's It's finding that calling. um that and what One thing I do, in defense of all my fellow parents out there, we all get knocked on the head for our kids using our their devices too much. and I agree.
00:31:15
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But there is that is just the symptoms. And I've come to the conclusion, the disease is that kids aren't allowed to go out and play anymore. And that's that's a societal thing that I wish we could fix. When when I was growing up and and when it was Saturday morning, it was like,
00:31:38
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Bye, mom, I'm going to meet so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so. We're gonna ride our bikes, we're gonna play football, we're gonna play baseball, we we're gonna play hockey. Whatever we're gonna do, we're gonna make forts, we're gonna run through the bush. And we would just go and play. And that was the time when parents could recharge, could get stuff done around the house. Nowadays, the old,
00:32:05
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they I live on a street where there's 20 kids. They don't know each other. and Because after school, it's it's homework, it's like or there's i some bat like some sport or some karate that and karate or basketball or soccer or practice, and you're going from one to the next. and But it's it's all artificial. It's all created. And and as a parent, like you know it's another obligation that you have to do. It's not just, oh, I'm sure.
00:32:40
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when we were growing up, if we wanted to play soccer, it wasn't, we didn't go to soccer practice. Somebody just brought a ball to the park and we chose up teams that we play. And that doesn't happen anymore. So the parents are like really that's been substituted by screens.
00:33:01
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The parents, ah they still have to get all the housework done and the chores and and then and most parents most households now are dual income. So that all that still has to get done as well as being you know like entertaining your kids.
00:33:21
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and And so I think there should be a big movement to for kids to reclaim their lives. And yeah but like we're talking reclaiming regions, I think kids should reclaim being kids. Just being allowed to go out and play, make up their own games, make up their own rules, choose up their own teams, and just play. That's that's my yeah my so parenting soapbox.
00:33:48
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Yes, i um I agree totally that it is difficult to be a kid in in these days because there's so much stimulation from the wrong sources. But, you know, it was wonderful to see young girls like these. i you know my My granddaughter, she plays sports and she's now out of practice even because she got a tackle, she plays rugby and um got a tackle and got a broken foot. But it was great, you know, even though with the danger of those things, you are she was out there playing sports and living her life to to the fullest. And I think, you know, I am hopeful that we will see more and more
00:34:45
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life changing for the better. Because people like you and myself and many others, we are contributing to raise that consciousness of our lives, our planet. And yeah, I think it will just happen gradually. And as we see the new generations doing some great work, we'll have to admit it, some young people are lobbying for climate change and other ah great causes. I was seen on the ABC this morning, this young woman that created this picnic in the park, um get together face to face because on her own need to connect with others. And you were mentioning before this about being disconnected and kids don't know each other in your street and there are 20 kids.
00:35:42
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there is a need for us to stay connected. So well done for your podcast. Well done to me for my program. And well done to many others as well that are creating that ripple effect of change.
00:35:58
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Yeah, I think there's yeah it like there's just this tendency to always point out what's wrong in the world. But and one of the big pushes of the laughing otter is to point out, actually, every every generation well every decade, the world is significantly better than the previous one. And that has never changed.
00:36:18
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and people are getting better and all the major statistics of you know quality of life, they all have improved significantly. um you know i' I've watched my son and all his friends, they're all happy. Yeah, maybe they watch a bit too much uh ipads or whatever but then we probably we did other things that probably too much as well uh so they're all happy they all laugh they're still kids and that's all good too yeah and and one of the one of the things that uh i saw a um i read an article
00:36:59
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back when the first Trump Clinton election was happening and and Brexit was happening at the same time. And there was a bunch of other o things. And without getting political here, there was a lot of conversations going on that were pretty negative. And was It was a really good article by a sociologist out of out of MIT or Harvard, one of the Boston schools, and he he basically said, we are not at the beginning of a bad era.
00:37:37
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Uh, we are at the end of a very long, bad era in that so many conversations that should have happened, uh, hundreds of years ago were really brought to the forefront and the, and I, it you can see it even the last 15 years, the amount of.
00:38:03
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of the establishment that's been criticized and is is eroding very quickly. um Things that have held us back for first for centuries and millenniums um are now being blown up and a new world is emerging that's kinder, fairer, cleaner, safer for everyone. And so yeah i i and that's that's my observation as well. like I spent a lot of time in Web 3 in the crypto world, um despite what the media says around that space. There are
00:38:43
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millions of people out there that are disruptive in a positive way that see that want the world kinder, cleaner, safer, fairer for everyone. And yeah, so I'm having those conversations every day. It's one of the best things about the laughing water is those are the kinds of people I'm connecting with and slowly but surely we are making a big change.
00:39:11
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Exactly, exactly and I am very pleased that you are in that space, I am in that space and together here we are helping others or help themselves by creating that awareness, that consciousness of, hey, don't sit waiting around for things to happen. Go and grab the change yourself. And programs like these and your conversations that you have every day
00:39:44
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If you think about it, it's an impact, a greater impact. It's like when, you know, you you have a drum and looked at the landscape from above and so you really are contributing to that change of consciousness. And it is a wonderful thing. We are going towards. And we are right now in that movement of change. So, inviting more people to join us, to be more conscious, to be more purposeful, driven. It's part of what do you are not and millions of others are aiming to create. And I feel pleased
00:40:32
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Yeah, for sure. We, we should all feel optimistic about where, where the world is heading. Um, there are, yeah, there, there's so many positive indicators that, uh, of things changing and conversations that should be happening and traditional institutions that are being reexamined. Um, yeah, it's all wonderful. Well, Maria. Yes.
00:41:00
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It's been a absolutely fascinating conversation. I love what you're doing and thank you keep keep pushing the message. where Where can people find you?
00:41:14
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Yes, thank you. Well, um there are a couple of places where you can find me so and over LinkedIn is if you search for Maria simple and you will find me there as in a professional network of LinkedIn. I have a website which is not maintained because websites sometimes are a digital business card and they take a lot of time to maintain them. But I do include in my videos, there is a page with videos and I upload ah my videos every week.
00:41:56
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ah from my youtube channel a new life coach new youtube channel ah you can also find me on facebook and a facebook group that i have created for the reclaim rewrite um private group and yeah so virtually three different spaces where you can find me um or I can leave my my email here as well create a new life coach
00:42:27
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come don' are you And I will be so pleased to hear from any of your wonderful audience. I do have a ah free tip type or people call it masterclass or challenge. I do a free event every six weeks or so to share with people some of the tools that I offer.
00:42:53
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in the program so they can experience it for themselves, learn more about it, check it out, and also provide feedback. Because when you think about it, this program is not new. I had researched the tools for many years when I was in my ups and downs of contract work.
00:43:12
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but it is still a brand new launching this program and I love the feedback from others. So far it's been a great ah comments and feedback from people that have attended my classes. But it's always great to have newcomers sharing insights on what they think and what I could be doing better. I'm always here to innovate, improve, and be humble. you know it's i We're all learners in this world. Well, that's that's fantastic. So everyone reach out to Maria if you
00:43:54
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If you want to learn more about what she's up to and check out her on all the different platforms. Um, and for the laughing water, you know, find us on Twitter, discord, Facebook, I'm on LinkedIn. So absolutely reach out if you want to get in touch and thanks for a great show. And to everyone, remember life doesn't have to be this hard and we should all be having a lot more fun. Thanks for listening. Thank you so much.