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Episode 94: Meet Arron Cramer

S2022 E94 · Uncommon Wealth Podcast
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What do you get when you cross a powerlifter with an astute financial mind, a deep care for people, and a unique understanding of the emotional side of money? You get Arron Cramer. In this episode, we’re talking to Arron, the newest member of Uncommon Wealth Partners about student loans, getting out of the money rut, aligning your spending habits to your priorities, and what he’s looking forward to in the coming year.
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Introduction to the Uncommon Life Podcast

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Everyone dreams about living an uncommon life, but how we define that dream is very different for each of us. And for most, it's a lifelong pursuit. Welcome to the Uncommon Life Project podcast. We're going to introduce you to people who are living that life or enjoying the journey to get there. We're going to also give you some tools, tricks, and tips for starting or accelerating your own efforts to live an uncommon life.
00:00:27
Speaker
A life worth celebrating and savoring.

Return from Hiatus and Commitment

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Speaker
Please welcome your hosts, Brian Dewhurst and Philip Ramsey. Hello and welcome everybody to another episode of The Uncommon Life Project where I'm your host, Philip Ramsey. And I am Brian Dewhurst. Thanks for tuning in to another episode. We have to probably apologize that we haven't shot one for a while. Let's just be frank. A little hiatus. A little hiatus, if you will. It felt good, though, honestly.
00:00:52
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It didn't, it didn't. So I should probably apologize for this. This is kind of like my main thing in the company. One of them, I should say I champion the podcast and this last time. Let's just be really honest. We've grown and we've helped facilitate. We've brought in new people. We are growing on Commonwealth partners feels really good because we're going to go and pack more people.
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Uh, but one person that we get to interview today is actually somebody that we onboarded.

Meet Aaron Kramer

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He's a new advisor. His name's Aaron Kramer. Welcome to the show. My man. What's good. Not much. I'm glad to be here guys. This is exciting. It feels like we've done this before. It's almost like a day shot. Voo. Um, I'm grateful that you're here. Uh, Brian, it's feels good to be back in the mic. It feels good back. I actually really do enjoy podcast. Yeah. I feel like every time I learned something, I hear something that I needed to hear.
00:01:41
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Right. And so what we really want to do is highlight how awesome Aaron Kramer is. He's uncommon. I can't wait to tell you how we started, how we got to know each other and kind of what his expertise is, his superpower, if you will. Uh, and so Aaron, let's just talk quick. You got a family, you got kids, where do you live? All that stuff. All right. Yeah. So I live in Clive, Iowa, pretty much walkie. Okay. I got a family. I married my high school, sweetheart. Got a little girl. She's seven.
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The age of seven is not fun. I got two dogs and, I mean, hobby-wise, I am a full-blown meathead. Yes, yes, okay.
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That's about it. I'm pretty boring. So when you say meat head, I'm thinking like, so you just know, cause you, there's no video, which that would be fun at some point to have some video, but we're working on it. Yep. Uh, he's kind of like a bodybuilder, like a beast, like a complete powerlifting beast. So that's, you know, that's who we're looking at right now. Um, and if you see him, he's a gentle giant, super cool. So I want to go into how did we first connect? Cause I love this story. I could talk about it again. I could talk about it all day. So, I mean, we first met.

Aaron's Journey into Financial Planning

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I was trying to get involved with the FPA, the Financial Planning Association, and so I reached out to get contacted, and good old Phil, he gave me a phone call, and I think we talked on the phone for a good hour. Yeah, it should have been 15 minutes. So my responsibility with Financial Planning Association is kind of like adding new members. So if somebody's interested in the organization, I'll give them a call and just say, hey, this is why I like it.
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Anyway, so Aaron expressed interest in Financial Planners Association of a chapter of Iowa. So I gave him a call and I remember on the other line was just a guy who like really wanted to do right, cared about people, just didn't know how to build a business. Didn't know what he didn't know. Didn't know what he didn't know. And so.
00:03:46
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We talked for an hour and I just honestly really just encouraged you like, Hey, how you're practicing is different. I didn't really say uncommon. I don't think, but I was thinking uncommon. Uh, and then we just kind of kept talking about it and just kept encouraging you and, and, and that, and then you and I hung out a couple of times at FPA and then you and I got a, you started an organization, kind of a group. And what was that group? Why did you start it? And that kind of then goes into kind of your expertise.

Creating a Money Mastermind Group

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Yeah. So.
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I started like a psychological, emotional, money masterminds group. Cause I love that whole side of our career. But with that, um, I knew you were being different. So I was like, Oh, I felt like this. He likes the whole counseling side of money. So I asked you to come part of it, but it's not that group was not just for us, like financial planners or money people.
00:04:43
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It's for, so we have therapists in the group. We have financial coaches that just do like money, like budgeting kind of thing. So it's for all that kinds of group, but yeah. So we run, we do that. We do that like every once a, once a month, once a quarter, once a month started and then we moved it to once a quarter. Yeah. So, um, but there's just, I mean, it's fun here in the Midwest. It's so rare. So it's hard to get more members. So I'm really fortunate and happy to have the ones that we have. Right.
00:05:12
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Right. So tell me about your background. Where'd you go to college, high school, all that stuff?

Aaron's Background and Wrestling

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So I grew up in Grimes, Iowa. So good old Mustang. It gets better. I went up for Iowa and so I got to be a peacock.
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I don't actually know if they make that noise, but it felt perfect. It felt right. It was. I mean, so I wrestled up there. I mean, to the point, like, I think... They are peacock wrestlers. Did you know that? Yeah. We don't... Those singles had to be amazing. Yeah. The wrestling team, we do the Perch Fork. We don't really do the whole peacock thing. Oh. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So... We'll leave it there. Yeah. There's other jokes there, but it's fun. So wrestled up there for four years.
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And then came back home. I mean, to do this whole, how long you've been doing the financial

Building a Financial Advising Career

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advising? I think I'm going on my seventh year here. Right. Yeah. So I've done sick. I've knocked out six. You're at the tipping point. Yeah. Japanese proverb business tipping point has reached at the end of six years, seventh year in your business.
00:06:37
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Division one football player everybody wants you to sit in their living room That ain't happening. No, right. Yeah, it unless you do something shady You're selling something that might not be the best for people. Yeah front commissions that you're taking a product to every Anybody who will listen to you, right? Yeah, that's what I know So I've noticed like those guys that get there really fast like they yeah they make a lot of money they hit that like
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that's good.
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Ceiling really quick because they can't they're not getting referrals because they're being shady, right? But these guys in our world that like are ginormous And they tell them they're like wow fast to take you to build like oh my gosh ten years, right? Really? Oh, but now they just sit there and they get referrals like crazy because they did it right right from the beginning and always that people write
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So you've had six years of experience and you're bringing over clients to the uncommon world. And so there could be people right now listening to this podcast. They have never heard of uncommon wealth other than you telling, Oh, Hey, this is a new team I'm on. So welcome to the show. Welcome to the brand everybody. Uh, and also welcome to you. Like there's not a lot of people that will let wear the uncommon brand because it's to Brian and I, it's kind of like, it's our child. So you don't want to just,
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It's like our last name almost. It's a, it's part of us. And so, uh, I'm grateful that you get to have the honor of being uncommon and you always were uncommon. And that's kind of what I kind of saw from you at the beginning. And so I feel privileged. It's cool. Well, let's let's, I want Brian to talk because he's awesome. It was funny because you guys obviously had a little bit more of a history when, when I was pulled in and the first time we met, I was like, Oh man, we've got to get this guy.
00:08:14
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He's part of the fold. So it was a quick and easy answer to get him over here because of the groundwork the two of you had. And so I'm super excited. And we want to build a firm that has a lot of different specialities and expertises and skill sets. And Aaron, you definitely bring those to the table. So that's kind of where I wanted to pivot.
00:08:38
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talked a lot, Phillip, on some podcasts, had some guests on about student loans, the epidemic of student loans in our country. You know, it's over like 1.3 trillion now student loan debt. 30% of it is like non-performing, meaning people aren't paying those bills. And so there's just a lot of confusion in that space. There's a lot of debt in that space. And that's kind of one of the areas you focused

Expertise in Student Loans

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on. So yeah, I gotta be happy to, because I'm a millennial, I know we make big,
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Jokes about all that fun stuff, but student loans is a big one, so I kind of feel like I had to go get educated on that. Last I looked, so don't, if you fact check me and I'm wrong, it's because I haven't looked, but like last I looked, I was the first one in Iowa to have my CSLP. Okay. What is a CSLP? A Certified Student Loan Professional. There it is.
00:09:30
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which is a big deal. Like these are big decisions and there are a lot of dollar bills, hundreds of thousands of dollars potentially per person or per couple. And people go into that willy nilly. You don't have a plan. You get taken advantage of pretty quickly. Yeah. That sole system, like the federal government, I'll give it to them. They've done a lot to like help, but they have made it so hard to understand what is happening. It's been easy on the front end to get the money and it's very difficult on the back end to figure it out. So hard because that test,
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Like, I know I don't like tests and I'm not a great test taker, but we all, like us sitting here, we've all had to pass hard tests just to get into the business. And this, this one, it trumps our securities exams. And I'll just say, duh. That was not easy for kindred spirits. Yes, we are. You can see where we roll together.
00:10:19
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So, so let's go back to how we met. So we were in this kind of like little group, psychology group of money. Uh, and then you reached out to me and then we had breakfast basically. I buy you breakfast. He did. And there's not a lot of people that do. So there's that it was on your ex arms. Yeah.
00:10:38
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Uh, so when we had breakfast, you were like, okay, how did you build a practice? That was basically uncommon. That was different. That was doing things right. And you know, like doing things right. Sometimes it's like the last thing you need to do is pay me. You just do this, that and the other. And you kind of saw that. Uh, and so you basically just were picking my brain of like, how do I, yeah, I think I was like word vomiting. Cause if I, if I remember the meeting, right, you were just eating and just kind of like nodding your head a lot. Like,
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Yeah, and I was just word vomiting, because when we all got said and done, my food wasn't eaten, which is a big deal for me, because I love food. And you're just like, yeah, I've been down this road, I understand. And it's like, no big deal. No, that wasn't it. I was just- I mean, I get the most best way. Yeah. I was just like, oh, yeah, I have lots to learn.
00:11:25
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And that's when I was like, I got to go talk to Brian. I think that's what I said. I was like, Hey, let me go talk to Brian and then basically Brian. I just like, Hey, this guy's uncommon and I think he's doing things the right way. We definitely need help. Yeah. Praise the Lord. And so you came over, so you started and I just think like it's been such a fun fit for me watching him interact with his clients.
00:11:50
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interact with, you know, potential clients that we have. It's been an amazing fit. So for all our listeners, uh, don't be afraid. He's uncommon and you're going to love him. Uh, but what would you say, I'd love to hear and talk about your superpowers. So what would you say your superpower is from your perspective? I would love Brian and I to give you our superpower working with you the last couple of weeks. Uh, and then we'll go from there. Well, um, that's a hard one to do because I feel like all of us have a hard time talking about ourselves. Uh,
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I think pretty much it's the emotional side of money. The only reason I would say it's a superpower, it did not come from the... It was hard learned to get to where I was at. It was a lot more just cleaning my own skeletons out of my own closet. And I am a big believer in to truly help someone. You gotta help yourself. In today's society, we all love to be like, I'm gonna help you.
00:12:49
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But on their closets, it's like the messiest closet ever, right? I'm coming in there with you. Yeah. So when I like cleaning mine out and when I'm talking about cleaning my closet out, like I, I had goals. I love chasing stuff.
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but me and finances, like even here, yeah, I worked in finance, but I could spend money like nobody's business. And so I had to figure that all out and knowing that like, you know, this, I'm going to be very cliche cause I do love the whole like uncommon thing, but like the common way of like getting better with money didn't work for me.

Personal Financial Transformation

00:13:23
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or my wife, so finding that path, it took a very uncommon path for me to do it, which then really helped lead me to understanding the emotions around money. Right, yeah. How do you think you did that? What was the key thing that you guys got you out of the rut?
00:13:43
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Um, well, it pretty much was me keeping us in the rut. Um, so me loving emotions and like, like, cause to me, you can show your emotions. You can do anything.
00:13:54
Speaker
I like therapy since we provide some therapy in our practice and I provide therapy like financial therapy, not psychotherapy to make that very clear. I was in psychotherapy. I was like, I want to get better. And so my therapist helped led me through that stuff. I had a really good knowledge in that area.
00:14:14
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And it like just blew my mind. I'm like, oh my gosh. And then they're going forward. Like I walked out of there and everything I was spending my money on that was stupid was no longer being spent on. Like it was like that fast. Yeah. Just clicked and I'm like, Oh, this is like not restrictive before. I felt like budgeting and managing your money was restrictive and don't, I definitely aligned with that feeling of feeling restricted.
00:14:39
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Yeah. And when I feel restricted, like I'm that personality, like, Oh, we're going to go the other way. Yeah. So, but like, once I like that, she helped me make that click and with my personality and my trauma that I've had in the past. And we worked all through that. I'm like, Oh,
00:14:56
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And so then I saw the power of it, and that's when I was like, I'm no longer gonna be a common financial advisor. I'm bringing this to be uncommon, so that's what I started putting into my practice. Just the exercise, and I know your story a little bit better than most, so I'm just gonna pull this out, but just the exercise of what is important to you, and what do you want your future to be like? And then looking at your finances, and how are you spending your money? Are they in line with the things that your top three most important things? Yeah. And a lot of times it isn't.
00:15:25
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And that was a huge kind of thing for Brian and I early in our practice is we would ask people like, what are your goals? What do you want to do? What do you want to accomplish? What do you want to create? And then they would kind of get done with this and they'd be all jacked up. And then I'm like, well, or Brian would say like, well, where's your money at? Like, and it's like all in my 401k and like, okay, like how is that going to help you get to really what you want to achieve? And it's just the realization of like, Hey, maybe,
00:15:52
Speaker
I need to align my finances with what is truly important to me. Yeah. And then once you figure that out, you start thinking like, okay, what else can help you? And I think that's when the budget comes in was like, maybe it's not something that hinders me, but maybe it's a freedom thing. Yeah. Make sure that I'm paying right now. Honestly, if you're thinking there, you're like, I hate budgeting. I hear you. I'm there with you. Uh, and so, but maybe we do another one. Yeah, we all hate budgeting. Right. It's terrible. Yeah. It's,
00:16:18
Speaker
I mean, it's a very... But it's effective. Well, an interesting thing. Yeah, it's so effective. My mom, I remember her growing up with the checkbook out, and she'd always be doing this stuff in the checkbook. I'm 40 to date myself as the airing of this, but we had a checkbook, but you didn't really use it. It was like in the drawer, worst case scenario.
00:16:39
Speaker
Yeah. So you weren't balancing a budget with a checkbook and now like there really isn't these, oh, let's use an app and it's all retroactive. And so it is a frustrating experience right now. Yeah. I mean, it's, there's nothing more like in your face, human, like making you like see the bigger picture than when you're doing your budget. Right. And then to do it with a spouse that's typically wired the opposite of, you know, you, most couples are wired differently with money.
00:17:06
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And I think the other thing to touch on something with you, you know, we all know, we all hear it that, you know, money is one of the top two reasons for divorce, but even like being in this, yeah, even being in this business, it's like, what are we actually doing to help couples avoid that? You know, if that is their reality, what are we bringing to the table as, you know, A on Commonwealth, B the industry,
00:17:30
Speaker
to really help with that, and that's why I'm really excited about the stuff that you're working on with the emotional factor, the money scripts, the things we learn as kids about money from our parents that's good and or bad. And so. So I love doing that, and I know we won't get into it today, but taking and understanding ourselves better around money and our emotions helps us as

Financial Understanding in Marriage

00:17:51
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individuals. But yeah, because money is the number one reason for divorce,
00:17:56
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like getting to better understanding yourself but also allowing your spouse to understand you better because that then you get so much more grace you know from your spouse like I mean my wife would just get so fussed right with me but then once she kind of realized my entire story and like how all my trauma in my life kind of came together but just my then growing up my childhood and she's like oh Aaron that's this you know but then
00:18:19
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He goes back to like setting like good boundaries with your spouse and like understanding how to like talk to them around money. Like my wife never ever tells me I can't buy something anymore. Right. You know, all she asked me is like, does that help your top three priorities? No.
00:18:40
Speaker
So, yeah. Okay. So we're talking about his superpowers. Brian, you want to go next? Good job. You did it well. You know, it's like, Hey, write your bio. I don't want to write my bio. I don't want to talk about myself. Okay. We'll do the rest. Yeah. I think, uh, two that I've noticed is hard work, um, and just persistence. I'll go to persistence. I'll leave you with hard work. Sorry. Um, but yeah, just persistent with things. And, uh,
00:19:06
Speaker
And then I think, too, to get more on the technical side, what you're doing with the student loan stuff and the money script stuff, I think is super exciting. I'm really excited to get that woven into the practice for clients, prospective clients. Because I think, too, as you age, you look at someone,
00:19:24
Speaker
being married for 30, 40 years with another spouse and the power of understanding each of your approaches in relationship with money at an earlier age and what that could do to transform your ability to save and invest is super exciting to

Future Episode on Student Loans

00:19:39
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me. So I think just the areas that you're pushing into are just super interesting right now to us and just a great addition to the firm. So
00:19:48
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That's for sure. And I think that we should do like a, its own episode podcast on student loans. I think that would be really good. So to be decided later date. Uh, and hopefully that will make sure that we don't have another lapse. I hate hiatus as Brian says. All right. To me, superpowers. I got three. You ready for them? Oh yeah.
00:20:07
Speaker
Uh, I think that you truly care. And that's what I would say. That's what I noticed the first time we talked when we had our first seven minute that turned into 30 minutes, I could tell you cared, which is huge, huge, huge. Second thing is you're vulnerable. I love that.
00:20:23
Speaker
I think that's the coolest thing. And I think Brian and I have gotten a lot of traction in our practice of just being super vulnerable. There's times like, I'm just not feeling it. And you'll know. You'll know that. You'll know if Philip comes out. Oh, Philip comes out. And so there's that. And then the third thing is you're just a hard worker. And there's been a lot of points where, and we've only worked together for three weeks, so you're definitely a hard worker. But there's been times it's been edified of the decision that you've made and we've made in you and invested in you.
00:20:53
Speaker
But here's one of them that I get all hyped up about and since we've already talked about your meat head, your beast, self diagnosed, he has a beast, but one goal that you had was trying to get in the top 10 in the world of power lifting in your weight class. Yep. First of all, to just go after that is pretty sweet, I think. But as you were training, you were benching something that I don't think I could
00:21:18
Speaker
even look at, let alone squat, deadlift, and bench, and you had an accident, you blew out your pec, right? Your pectoral muscle ripped. My pec major, yeah. Pec major. It is the smaller of the two.
00:21:35
Speaker
name backwards if you ever want to know anything about Greenland and Iceland Brian Brian knows Brian knows all of this stuff you can ask him later and so you blutch peck obviously that's a huge like muscle group yes a huge muscle group you're trying to train for anything but especially this which completely like took you back so you had to get surgery
00:21:54
Speaker
Anyway, six months later, we were talking and you were like, yep, six months ago, had surgery and I'm back in the weight room and I'm just lifting 25 pound dumbbells. And I thought the vulnerability and the transparency and the hard work that it takes to then be completely like
00:22:10
Speaker
going back to twenty five pounds has to be super humbling. Yeah, but the fact that you were in there, because honestly I'd be in the couch with Cheetos and talking about the shoulder years. Yeah, sugar cookies. Can I get a man? But not you. It's like you're back in the gym. No matter what the weight is, you're still doing it. And I thought, man, you're super uncommon and you're going to work well here. So anyway, so that's my three. I'm done. Thank you. Well,
00:22:36
Speaker
Okay, what other questions do we need to know for you? I want to know ideal clients that you're looking for, that kind of

Ideal Clients and Risk-takers

00:22:42
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stuff. And then how, I don't know, I just say, what is your general feel of Unconwealth and where we're going? But let's start with your ideal client. Okay. I want to start it the other way, but okay. So ideal client for me, like it's your more of your risk taker kind of person. Like,
00:23:03
Speaker
If you're that person that's like constantly like you're just going to take a toad, you're going to tap, you're going to tap, you're going to tap. So you don't know if you want to jump in to your goals and stuff like that. Like water looks cold. Yeah. Water looks cold. Like we're not going to get along. Like we're not like, we might be able to like go grab a beer, but we're not going to make any progress. Cause like, you're going to feel so much pressure from me. Cause I'm that person like, Hey, I need you to jump into that lake. That looks fun. I was like, okay, do you need to test the water? I'm like, nope, I'm already running. I'm jumping in like,
00:23:31
Speaker
I've, there's a lot of life lessons to like, you know, test the waters first, but that's not my personality. So for me, it's that person that really just wants to get after it and set up a team in their corner to help them get after what they want. Right. So that's my ideal client.
00:23:49
Speaker
Right. I would also say too, that's really aligned with uncommon wealth partners. And I'm always saying this because all of our listeners have probably heard this before, but maybe not your listeners, but the clients that we have trouble working with are the clients that don't know what they want. Yeah. If they have no idea what they want, even after we talk for awhile, then we're just not a good fit because we can't tell you what you want and we can't even put anything in front of it. We can't even create a plan on, I don't know, like, yeah,
00:24:13
Speaker
So we always just say like, Hey, we'll be ready as soon as you're ready and you know what you want. I can't tell you how many people have come back like, okay, now I know. And we say, okay, now we're ready, you know? Yeah. And that's great. But I, like, yeah, those people are, if you can come down to find what you want, but I got like, I've had people that know what they want. You know, let's do it. And they're like, well, that's a good point. And you're like, I don't mean there's going to look, they start looking at all the downsides of it and you're like,
00:24:41
Speaker
You're depressing. Next. So. What are you most excited about for 20? We're in 20. We're not supposed to talk about dates, but 2022. Here we are. So I like, I'm super excited about being a part of this team. Cause like, you know, like, well, you know, when we first met and we were, we go back to like that conversation when we're talking about getting breakfast.

Excitement in Joining the Team

00:25:03
Speaker
I literally have felt like an, I've been on an island by myself for a long time because I get into the emotional stuff because I take a very different approach to financial planning. I mean, I've kind of been on an island by myself. And so now one being part of a team that like does pretty much the same thing I do. We have, we all have a little different styles, but for the most part, like we're all the same. Right. I'm like stoked out of my mind because I'm like, Oh my gosh, I have people I can bounce ideas off of. And then
00:25:33
Speaker
that like have taken the same approach i have so when i have like hit a bump in the road they're like oh yeah done that 100 times do this cool thanks moving on yeah right yep so right no man i think your projection or projectory what is it trajectory trajectory gosh what would i do without brian
00:25:51
Speaker
is so exciting for uncommon well for not only us but other people to get them on this uncommon. I would say path and that's what we would always say like we want to impact as many people as we can and we just need help and so yeah, you're such a huge asset. I'm excited.
00:26:08
Speaker
I'm pumped to have you on the team and I think the law firm kind of model is interesting and an easy way to, I guess, approach. I feel like what we're trying to create is where you have a team of lawyers, you're all talented, but you're all kind of talented in different ways and we can really put something in front of any client, entrepreneur, family, and just bring tremendous value as a team and really help change lives.
00:26:36
Speaker
super excited to have you on the on board right and hopefully like this podcast so i think maybe just to take a step back the reason why we started this podcast is because we want to interview people that are dominating at life or absolutely loving what they're doing every day they don't feel like they're working
00:26:52
Speaker
yet they're getting paid for it.

Inspiration and Mentorship

00:26:54
Speaker
And so that's what the podcast was all about. That was like the genesis one, like what obstacles have you had to overcome? Who are the mentors in your life? And then, you know, how do you get to the next level? And then how do you get to the point where you're like now jumping off the common now to the uncommon? So last question, who do you, who would you say your biggest mentor is? Oh my gosh.
00:27:20
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Like that, that question's like that. I mean, that's a very powerful question, but it kind of comes down into like what area of life that's actually good. Cause like we all have different areas that we're trying to pursue. So like, I mean, just in life in general, um,
00:27:43
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This is going to be super cliche, but like, I'm religious. So I, like, I gotta go with like, I have a much different view than most about Christianity and God, but like, it's the big guy. Cause he always keeps me grounded. So it'd be him. Yeah.
00:28:01
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It's not cliche. No, no, not at all. I appreciate it. Well, Aaron, welcome to the team. If you had any questions or any questions for us, uncommonwealth.com is the website. You've been listening to the Uncommon Life Project. Aaron, welcome to the team, man. You're a huge asset. Glad to be here.
00:28:19
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Amen. Yeah, you're just going to thrive. I can't wait. So thank you for listening. You've been listening to the Uncommon Life Project. I've been your host, Phillip Ramsey. And I'm Brian Dewhurst. Thanks for listening. Until next time, go be uncommon. Thanks, everybody. That's all for this episode of the Uncommon Life Project, brought to you by Uncommon Wealth Partners. Be sure to visit uncommonwealth.com to learn more about our services. Don't miss an episode as we introduce you to inspiring people who are actively pursuing an uncommon life.