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Daily Premier League in English - Episode 67: The Monday Review, City THRASHED at the Emirates, Forest bounce back in a HUGE way! + The Rest of the Weekend's Highlights
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Mikey Thompson, Eshan Weerasinghe, and Nathan Wootton unpack a weekend of surprises in the Premier League.
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Introduction and Initial Reactions
00:00:02
Speaker
the Global Sports Podcast Network. Hello and welcome to another episode of the Daily English Podcast here at GSPN. I am today joined by two wonderful people overseas. We've got Nathan, the Villa fan. How are you Nathan? I'm good, thank you. A little bit salty about the the Wolves loss but we have to get over it and we move on, right?
00:00:29
Speaker
Absolutely. And we're also joined by Ishan Fonten, a Germany shirt today, Ishan, is it?
Arsenal vs. City: A Tactical Analysis
00:00:35
Speaker
Yeah. ah Got a rep, Tony Cruz, from the Euros um Fresh Kit. I had to cough this one. um like nices Very nice, very nice. Well, we've had ah a full fixture list of games this weekend and a lot has happened and there's so many things that we're going to talk about. But we're going to start at Arsenal, and who has played City and it was a huge game for Arsenal. It was the difference of going six points behind Liverpool and they managed to do that. The game was very, very interesting in my opinion. They went ahead very early and with Martin Odegard and for the rest of that half it seemed fairly fairly dominant, not very much happened.
00:01:19
Speaker
Early in the second half City hit back and with their talisman early in Harland and then after that the demise of City happened which was beautiful to watch in so many ways as a United fan. However, the the I thought the finishing Although looking at some points like the partly goal was quite lucky with the deflection, other than that, the finishing of the Arsenal goals I thought were very, very good. I'm going to come to Isham first. What were your thoughts on this game?
00:01:50
Speaker
I thought it was interesting how last week ah City conceded early um fought back and then pushed on like a previous City would and how this season they'll concede early or not concede and maybe fight back but crumble in the second half because I think what we're seeing now with City this season is the fear factor is not maybe not gone but it's it's almost obliterated because this this what happened today happened exactly in the PSG game. As soon as they equalized, as soon as they like had that little bit of momentum, Arsenal pushed, Arsenal pushed, and PSG pushed, and they got the fruits of their labor. and I think that was that' reflected in the score line and it's reflected in the 40 minutes after Holland's goal. of just It was just Arsenal. It was just Arsenal.
00:02:44
Speaker
Yeah, agreed. like city City held on to the draw for 60 seconds and before Arsenal regain the lead, which it saves a lot about their team at the minute. Nathan, what were your takeaways from that game? um Yeah, I thought the the early goal and the the way that they just give them the ball, the Arsenal tend to start games really, really aggressive and intense. And it just felt like they did wasn't ready to play the game. And they when you go 1-0 down so early, it sets that narrative that you've got to come back and you've got to push on. I just felt, yeah, they got they got the equalizer. It was a really good ball in from Savino, who's had a little bit of an upturn in form.
00:03:28
Speaker
and Yeah. I feel like the the Harlan thing, when the last game, when he threw the ball at Gabrielle and there's a little bit of needle like between the two teams, maybe like because Harlan scored it, it spurred them on a little bit. And yeah, like I like what you said about the quality of goals. Um, like Louis Skelly's goal was, was amazing. Um, who's had a really good starting campaign for Arsenal. And then I thought Havertz was, was linking the play very well. He got his goal in the end.
Manchester United's Tactical Troubles
00:03:58
Speaker
And then just to put the the cherry on top, Nuanieri hitting that goal as a, when you have one of your own scoring goals like that in big games, it's it's really um really good for you, especially yeah your hope whole club. It demonstrates how good your youth academy is. But I think defensively, ah ah Man City have really, really showed vulnerabilities this season. And that game today highlighted that.
00:04:28
Speaker
um especially down the left side within Nuanieri, Golguvar, Diard and Savini. They don't look in sync or they don't know how to and how to defend that wall as a pairing. so Yeah, I know I agree. Can I have this goal reminding me of Lucas Podolsky back in the day? Firing it across goal or whipping it into the corner? I feel like it was testament to to the form of both teams at the minute. Arsenal took advantage of games where maybe maybe it could have gone either way and City showed that they really are struggling to
00:05:05
Speaker
maintain like the they the They had a similar game to Chelsea at home, I thought, where it could have gone either way and the Chelsea game happened to go City's way, and whereas the Arsenal game definitely hasn't. So we move on from two teams that are doing really well. I know this is going to annoy people because I'm moving about. and So I'm going to go to another team that are significantly struggling ah trying to stay out of the relegation battle and that is Man United. Old Trafford was, yet again, a horrible place to be as we we saw United lose 2-0 to Palace. I'm going to go to our fellow Man United fan first. Ishaan, what went wrong today?
00:05:52
Speaker
I think it's just yet another example of um us having the quality and none of the efficacy. It's it's so frustrating to see these footballers that are paid millions and millions of pounds like flutter. and I guess it's a point to the but how much confidence and momentum has in football.
00:06:14
Speaker
and like You hope once Ruben Amorim gets his tactical set up in that like it's so it'll be a different story. But if we continue to see stuff like this, you're gonna lose the fans. it's It's only a matter of time. you know That is my biggest frustration with all of this. is that
00:06:34
Speaker
After so many years of being a United fan, after to put Post-Fergie, I think the fans are starting to lose hope season after season, manager after manager. I think when a lot of fans, when they saw 10-Hog and saw what he did with IX, there was this notion of, okay, finally we have our men, finally we have our men. And like, it felt very much last straw. And then now with Ruben and Mirim, you don't want to be too harsh because it's still the start of his journey, but you're creating the foundations, you know? so
00:07:06
Speaker
Today's game was um one team having a striker that was putting away their chances and another team that was still messing around with tactics. I think putting my new up, I'm a big fan of pushing my new up for for the up the field.
00:07:22
Speaker
but I don't think we can afford to do it in place of ah of ah our number nine. you know like how How can we have the output of goals if we don't really have that figure out help top? I know it can be done. City have won the Premier League with this team, but that's when they had supreme confidence in the system. That's when they had supreme confidence with the wingers to do their job and push in. And Liverpool have done it.
00:07:47
Speaker
It's the same thing, though. Like, once if you have supreme confidence in your wingers to have the output, then you can have a nine that is a false nine and drops back. So I think that's what I would point to more than anything. It it just also shows you how ah United have been linked with Matthias Tell um for good reason. You know, we need more attacking options. If Ahmad gets an injury, if Garnachek gets an injury, we are so ridiculously thin up top that we need reinforcements.
00:08:15
Speaker
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00:09:16
Speaker
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Nottingham Forest's Dominant Win
00:09:35
Speaker
As we move on to our second segment of today's podcast, we are going to look at the Saturday fixture was Forest forest against Brighton.
00:09:43
Speaker
ah And what a response. I said it in the ah Friday preview show that This was a huge game for Forrest. If they wanted to be regarded as a team in the top four today, this weekend they had to go back and they did exactly that. They smashed seven goals against Brighton. Chris Wood with a hat trick. A shout out from me personally from Anthony Alanga. I thought he was excellent throughout and he stood out. I think he got a hat trick of assists actually. he sends a clear message.
00:10:18
Speaker
and And also to top that off, when your team are performing well in an attacking sense, it's very, very vital that you're defensively strong as well. um keep And the save against Welbeck onto the bar that nearly crossed the line ah was testament to that. I'm going to go up to Nathan on the forest game. Tell him to worry about that.
00:10:41
Speaker
ah Yeah, I echo and things that you said, how Nottingham just, they just kept pushing and pushing and pushing in the first half and they just didn't have any answers. And I thought Gibbs White was amazing in that first half. I think he's really strengthening his England credential credentials. He was just everything, he all the passes he made must be coming off.
00:11:07
Speaker
They kept releasing Alanga down the right, and I think they had Tariq Lamptey, a left-back, who's not a natural left-back, and it was showing how the 1v1 matchup there was, he was getting the better of him. And yeah, I just think 3-0 within the space of 20 or 30 minutes, it was really damaging to see how defensively bright and this season have been.
00:11:34
Speaker
It's so weak like Lewis Stunt with the own goal as well. That's not liked him. He's been the good Premier player over the years. yeah Just think Nottingham Forest, the embodiment of just intensity aggression and with Chris Wood up front having the season of all seasons, it's just everything just clicking into place for them.
00:11:55
Speaker
I noticed Danilo came back as well, and he's a brilliant player also. So they've got a lot to they've got a lot to look forward to us in the forest fans, especially not relegation battles anymore. Yeah, definitely. I think one of the questions that I did want to ask both of you today was so Chris Woods and season so far has been phenomenal. But I wanted to ask you guys what level of football do you think he is?
00:12:22
Speaker
where would where Where is the pinnacle for Chris's career? Because as you both said, as we've said, he is playing phenomenally well in a forest side which are exceeding their expectations. But realistically, where where could he see his career? resist Is this the pinnacle of it? Or do you think he could be playing in a bigger team? Personally, I think, I mean, he's 33 years old. you know He played in the 2010 World Cup for New Zealand at like 18 or something like that.
00:12:50
Speaker
He's had a long, long career, and I think what we're seeing is the pinnacle. um Just because I think it's an accumulation of all of his experience, he's in a good age where he can still use that experience and um really well.
00:13:03
Speaker
and I hate to say it sometimes, but is there really a better league than the Premier League in 17 goals in a season? is is People would win top goal scorers with 18 goals, you know, like in previous campaigns. So it's it's quite a high bar. If he gets better, all glory to him, great for him, but um I think we could be seeing the pinnacle of his career. Do you agree, Nathan? Yeah, um his age age especially, and
00:13:34
Speaker
ah I just think that who would want to pay premium price for a striker of that age, but saying that you pay for what you get right now, that's especially the the the the sense with Watkins, that his' he's pushing 30. But I just think not even far as can get into Europe um and he can have a ah run at Europe. I could see that being in the pinnacle.
00:13:59
Speaker
but um' But I definitely think, given his career, I mean he was at Burnley and he he did chip in, probably got close to 10 Premier League goals. I know he was in, he was a good championship striker as well. But yeah, I'd definitely say this is his ceiling.
Newcastle vs Fulham: Key Highlights
00:14:12
Speaker
Yeah I found the right club. Fair enough. So we're going to jump on to the Newcastle Fulham game um and for anyone who who loves football, genuinely in this game I saw one of my favourite things that I could possibly see on a football pitch and it was the Tonoli half volley that leathered the crossbar and ah it just makes it just gives me ah such a warm feeling inside when I see something as beautiful as that. It didn't go in and I think it's even better when it doesn't go in. it's just It was stunning. I think his act hit the bar as well in that game yeah with a beautiful effort but because it was on the half volley I'm giving it to Sonoli for me.
00:14:53
Speaker
and Gordon's run for the first goal was was a standout, ah created this space and and and took full advantage of it. He had the bit between his teeth and I've not seen that for a few games now. Full of move though for the goal was a very two touch, one touch training ground, training ground esque.
00:15:13
Speaker
and I think it was almost impossible to defend against um and the subs obviously coming on and making a difference and the Munes finish I thought was so classy very very clever um touch to to see it go past the goalkeeper ah Nathan you you said you you were quite interested in this game Yeah, because I just think on paper, yeah Newcastle, um up until the loss to Bournemouth, they've won nine games in a row. So they they're a team that are high up on a team that is watchable, especially with Isaac up front, who's been amazing this season. um And I think it was, I read a stat that it was Fulham's first win at St. James's Park since 2009. So 16 years of not getting any results at St. James's Park.
00:16:01
Speaker
I just think it's signified Marco Silva's time at Fulham and how he's assembled a squad that is, I mean, they lost Paulina in the summer and I was a fan and thought, oh, that's going to really hinder them. They might be down the bottom end of the league, but they've accumulated Smith row. They've got Muniz and Raul Jimenez.
00:16:20
Speaker
ah They've not spent, this just signifies they've spent ah ah not a lot of money on good Premier League players and it just shows that recruitment is so key. Especially with Anthony Robertson, I think he's the top assists for a defender this season. He's got a very strong base of defending and then they were very threatening on the attack with the Wobe and Smith row. And I noticed Harry Wilson's injured, so Adama Troyore came in and he had a big input in the game also.
00:16:51
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Eshan, anything you wanted to add to that game? No, I agreed. I think it was um a good testament to, that one, the quality of both teams when we look at ah United who's struggling, who with recruitment and being, the I would argue, the focal point. To see two teams that have done a really fantastic job. We we made a mention in the and a prep for the episode that that like this is Fulham's first win at St. James Park since what, 2008, 2009? And I'm correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's the season that Alan Shearer took over Newcastle at the end and they still got relegated. So pretty good testament to both the longevity of Fulham, how
00:17:35
Speaker
They're still competing, you know, like in in a Premier League where the costs are so high, the the quality of the league is fantastic.
Premier League Standings and Challenges
00:17:42
Speaker
I think we see them in the Champions League, like if Forest qualify for the Champions League, we could we could see them competing, right? So for a 10th place team to come to Newcastle and stamp their credentials for the quality of their team. was It was fantastic to watch. I thought it was a great Premier League encounter. i like I'm so glad that Mikey brought up the Tonali hit. I like was gobsmacked when I saw that. I can't believe it's not getting enough love on the internet because it's just so sweet in the way it swerves.
00:18:15
Speaker
But yeah, look I think that also like this is a classic case of the game is on a knife edge, you know, like we we talk about Fulham and Fulham's credentials, but Newcastle were in this game, you know, if it was really dependent on the last five to 10 minutes. I think it's a great example of what makes football so beautiful is you have five to 10 minutes to make a difference. And it's just that one moment that's going to count. And unfortunately, for Newcastle fans, Fulham got it this round.
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Speaker
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00:19:35
Speaker
This season, Nathan, you highlighted this as being problematic for those teams. The only team that are in touching distance are Wolves, in my opinion. After that, you've got Everton who also have a game in hand. If they were to win that game in hand, they would go 10 points clear of Wolves, which means it's a four horse race, in my opinion, ah with the relegation battle. What's your take on it and what's your vibe about the gulf between the teams that are coming up?
00:20:04
Speaker
Yeah, well, if we go through team by team, Southampton, you could argue, and a lot of their fans would say that they shouldn't have gone up. It was a very, very closely knit player final that they had. And their squad that they've assembled just not Premier League ready. Like, there's not many players who have got Premier League experience. They've got players like Arebo and Adam Armstrong. It's it's a very um championship-looking squad.
00:20:33
Speaker
And then obviously the manager is still trying to play at an out from the back Pep Guardiola style on the end of losing his job. And look at the points they're on is e nearly equaling Derby's lowest ever Premier League points tally. And then if you look at Leicester, they sat the manager when they're 16th. So two of the managers have lost their job. And he's been on a terrible run by an destroy up until the Tottenham win.
00:21:01
Speaker
which dragged Tottenham closer to it, but you you you'd say on paper Tottenham are not going to get relegated with the squad that they have. And again, like you've got 38-year-old Vardy up front, Mavadidi, players like this who are decent young players, um El Canoos, defensively, I think they've got the whole championship defence that they had just invest a guard, wild face.
00:21:26
Speaker
So it's it's it's hard to see how they've, I'm not saying they have to spend a ton of money, but it's hard to see how they're going to compete with the same players that they had. um And then if you look at Ipswich, I'd say they've probably give it the best go um and they've they've looked good in games. um de la There's a few shining lights to laugh. Hutchinson's look good.
00:21:49
Speaker
but again i I just think the golfing class is just it's really really high and I think any teams coming up really have to focus on these teams like Bournemouth and Fulham with their recruitment and get it right to have any kind of chance. It's really damaging for the league to see how hard the the jump from championship to Premier League is. Yeah, I think I would also add that like um you're also seeing teams trying to like even do this like aspect where they use like the yo-yo method, where they go up once and know that they're going to get relegated. And the whole point is to get up that second season and use the parachute payments from the relegation into the championship. like ah ah like A good example of this is Norwich.
00:22:34
Speaker
ah Norwich went up, came down, went up, and wanted to stay up, but went back down again. And I think that's what we're going to see more and more often is that there's going to be a set of six, maybe seven teams in the championship at the top that are just going to come back up, go back down, come back up like a Sheffield United, for example. um And it's frustrating because you want you don't want the issue to only be money. But the problem is, like, um if you look at the example of Forest, Forest are doing fantastically now.
00:23:05
Speaker
That's because they invested but loads of money you know they invested hundreds of millions of pounds went into. um and Broke the profit and sustainability rules had the points deduction barely escaped last season and now we're profiting.
00:23:23
Speaker
But after several really lucky gambles for being real, because like with a point seduction, odds on you're nailed for relegation, especially if you don't have quality in your squad. So thankfully, Nottingham Forest fans will rejoice and like enjoy the time now, but it so could have gone a hundred times worse. And I like, I guess it's the problem with the might of the Premier League is yes, we can compete in the European side, but I think it it lets down the football pyramid
Liverpool's Title Chances
00:23:55
Speaker
to its own extent. And I think that's, it's troubling to see. Yeah, it's got deep. um It looks dismal for the relegation zone. And yeah, I do agree with you. It's sad that it comes down to some money. and And I think recruitment is such a pivotal point to what you both said there. If you can recruit well, you can you can make Premier League status sustainable, I think. But it is it is pivotal and you need you need a strong
00:24:22
Speaker
football club who's willing to back a manager that's right for that football club.
Conclusion and Farewell
00:24:27
Speaker
A quick touch on the title race. Six points in it. Liverpool with the game in hand, nine points clear. It looks as though if Liverpool can maintain consistency, and they will be title holders come the end of the season. I can't see any major shocks. Can you guys see anything going on towards to stop them winning it?
00:24:51
Speaker
I can only see Liverpool winning it now, to be honest, especially with that game in hand. So you're talking nine points. I've got to lose three games. Um, and I just, I just don't see it, especially with their, the only way I would see it is if they have major injuries, uh, especially van Dyck. He's a, he's one of the key players who they can't play. Um, they can't challenge without.
00:25:17
Speaker
Well, yeah, I just think Slott deserves an amazing credit for, especially with the players they bought, they hardly bought anybody. So the whole squad he came in with was the same squad. So I think he deserves a lot of credit for where he's got them to, especially with the Champions League as well. They're top of the Champions League as well. So that that's that's amazing. I just think um maybe fatigue comes in join when Champions League comes back um and then they can hold up with injuries, which Salah is never injured.
00:25:48
Speaker
Sal is probably the best one of the best players in the world. I can only see Liverpool winning in it now. yeah I've got to agree and I think when he came in, a lot of managers like to put their own stamp on it and there was no knee-jerk reaction from him. He didn't even imp buy anybody, he kept it the same, he didn't try and change too many things and it's full credit to him because he slowly created his own his own ethos and it's very very clear in what way that he wants Liverpool to play and it isn't exactly what Jurgen Klopp was doing but he didn't do anything drastic which
00:26:21
Speaker
I think it has been been really pivotal. And the fact that other teams have dropped points and had a bit of incon inconsistency in form has probably played quite a big part. Unfortunately, this episode has come to an end. It's gone really fast. It's been an absolute pleasure having you both here. That is our daily GSPN roundup. It's goodbye from me and goodbye to both of you. Thanks very much, guys. Goodbye.
00:26:49
Speaker
Thank you Mike, it was a good weekend of football. Brilliant weekend.