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Star Being Siblings: Awakening, Hybrid Souls & the Cosmic Mission
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In this extraordinary episode of the Journey Mindfulness Podcast, James welcomes back two remarkable guests — Judy Carroll and Jacquelin Smith — for a profound conversation that bridges Earth and the stars.
Judy and Jacquelin share their story of reuniting as star-being siblings—a connection that spans lifetimes, galaxies, and dimensions. They reveal memories from their shared life as hybrids aboard an interdimensional ship, their Earth missions, and how they are helping humanity awaken to higher consciousness, spiritual evolution, and cosmic oneness.
Explore themes of:
- Star family, interdimensional contact, and soul remembrance
- The Human Ladder of consciousness and galactic DNA activation
- Light language, emotional healing, and the shift into 5D awareness
- Earth’s role in the greater cosmic plan — and how to align with your mission
💫 Whether you’re a seeker, experiencer, or starseed, this episode is a heart-opening invitation to remember who you truly are.
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Judy Carroll
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📚 Book: Star Being in the Mirror
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Transcript
Introduction to Hosts and Themes
00:00:13
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Welcome back to the Journey Mindfulness Podcast. Today's episode brings together two extraordinary voices who have each walked paths that stretch far beyond the visible world and into realms of deep healing, interdimensional contact, and spiritual awakening.
Insights into Alien Encounters and Cosmic Connections
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First, we're honored to welcome back Judy Carroll, a lifelong contactee, author, and teacher whose work has helped countless people understand the true nature of ET contact by the grays.
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Judy offers a perspective grounded in compassion, galactic awareness as a jewel soul and the evolution of human consciousness. Her insights bridge the gap between the fear based narrative of gray alien encounters and the soul deep truth of benevolent connection.
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Also joining us again is Jacqueline Smith. an intuitive animal communicator, star being hybrid, healer, artist, and author who brings forward a profoundly heart-centered approach to cosmic connection and earth wisdom.
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Her experience with multi-dimensional beings and her ability to help others remember their soul star origins invite us to view life through a much more expansive lens.
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Together, Judy and Jacqueline offer a powerful conversation that blends wisdom, warmth, and spiritual integrity. Whether you're new to this subject or well along your awakening path, today's dialogue invites you to open your heart, stretch your perspective, and explore what it means to be truly connected beyond time, form, or species.
00:01:55
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Let's begin.
The Introduction and Connection of Judy and Jacqueline
00:01:56
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Welcome, Judy and Jacqueline. Thanks, James. Yeah, thank you. It's wonderful to be here today. We're looking forward to it.
00:02:07
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Yeah. So let's dive in. like How did you two meet? so Okay, so um so I had the opportunity to meet Dr. R. Leo Sprinkle at the International UFO Congress.
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um a number of years ago. and I just really resonated with, you know, what he was talking about in his work. So I decided to go Laramie, Wyoming, where Dr. Sprinkle lives.
00:02:47
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And he is um a researcher. He is the pioneer researcher working with contactees as well as past lives.
00:02:58
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So I flew out there and spent a week with him. um There were some memories I wanted to uncover with him. And so ah one of the main memories was when I was about five or six years old that we had a tornado come through my neighborhood.
00:03:21
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And so star beings took me out of my bed and onto to the ship. And I wanted to know more about that experience when I went back onto the ship. And so leo said, we, you know, we were kind of talking back and forth and writing letters and that. and he said, you've got meet Judy Carroll.
00:03:51
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And, um, He said, you two have so much in common and I just know you're going to resonate. So he introduced us and the first time Judy and i um saw each other and connected, we had these two screens that are exactly the same and and actually reminded us of home from where
00:04:22
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we came from. So we had an immediate connection and i will forever be grateful Leo for introducing introducing us.
00:04:36
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So that's kind of how we got um connected and have have been communicating ever since. It's super fascinating for those that don't know.
00:04:47
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Yeah, that you have just randomly have, or maybe not randomly. There are perhaps no coincidences, but this same background is fascinating.
00:04:58
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Now, what what year was this? Oh my gosh. This was probably, i'm thinking around
00:05:09
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thirteen or two thousand four mean okay I was trying to think the other day too. I think it was 2013. Yeah. but So it was a video call that you spoke on and saw the screens and just had that moment of connection.
00:05:27
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Yeah. yeah Jacqueline also has a little cabinet down to the side there, down to her right-hand side, that I have exactly the same cabinet. So there's two things.
00:05:40
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so what What made Dr. Sprinkle, is Dr. Sprinkle? Yes. What made him connect you two? What about your stories? Because he worked with a number of contactees that he felt that you two should connect.
00:05:57
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Well, he felt, um you know, with with some of my experience with my Star family, he felt um yeah that Judy and I had a lot in common, you know, that we would resonate with each other and had some similar experiences.
00:06:20
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And so, and and Leo was, was very intuitive. And he just went one day to me because you got to meet Judy Carroll.
00:06:32
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Yeah, that would make sense to me that he was intuitive and could put that together. very, very, very intuitive man. yeah yeah he's He's actually mentioned, i think, a couple of times that it it is it was his job down here to connect ET people who were down here in Earth's Human Form.
00:06:50
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think it was part of his job. Yeah, it it was. And he i had one of the very first conferences of contactees. ah So he was a true pioneer.
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in that sense and really open that door, you know, for so many people to be supported in their experiences. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, I you know definitely want to give him his due because, you know, what that work is so important as we evolve this topic, you know, and more and more people learn more about kind of what's going on in the world and and in the universe. So it's, you know, and obviously you two are playing a ah very important part in all of that as well.
00:07:38
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Yeah,
Past Life and Star Being Connections
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thank you. and And yeah, and then Judy and I discovered and jump in anytime um is that we were actually siblings, starving siblings and in another lifetime. And and we just saw we just knew each other's traits.
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We still react with each other exactly the same way as we did back then. We still but and And so it's just been delightful to uncover that and still uncover that with Judy.
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and And as star beings, I mean, we just have that that very close connection as brother. you know, I'm going to say brother and sister, i lean more toward male because you know that many of the races are androgynous.
00:08:33
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But I lean more toward male and Judy lean more toward female. And so we came from a a place where um it was beautiful oceans, palm trees, which Judy and I love beaches and We loved our home. In fact, our screens that you're looking at um remind us of our home because we use natural materials in our where we come from.
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so Judy and I will often talk about, oh you know, we'll kid around and say, I'll say that, Judy, oh, my gosh, I miss the beach we were on. miss I missed and miss those palm trees.
00:09:24
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i yeah I miss our conversation. i used to talk about star maps a lot. And Judy what would say to me as my sister, you know, we're here to have, enjoy all this and, you know, but let's just have, let's have fun. And I was busy trying to talk about, um,
00:09:44
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star maps and things like that. So what what planet was this or what were you the same species at this time or what but was that like?
00:09:58
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Yeah, we we were actually a hybrid species um in the Arcturian system. We were halfact half Arcturian, half Theta. and that we're referred to as blue-gray Arcturian. So we looked like Zetas, but we had a blue-gray colouring to our skin.
00:10:15
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My sibling Xantukai, which was Jacqueline's name, could he actually had more Arcturian in his make-up and I had more Zeta, which means Xantukai could retract his thumb, retract his thumb.
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so that he could either be a three-fingered or a four-fingered being. And I couldn't do this. And it used to really annoy me. So he used to tease me all the time. Look, I can do this and you can't.
00:10:45
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Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And, you know, people don't understand, I mean, or they might not understand, you know, that star beings have emotions and that we have a great sense of humor and in play.
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You know, so I would just like pop my thumb in and out in front of her. um and And so, yeah, she got pretty annoyed. But um rock brought on the button hours but we we just we just we just knew.
00:11:18
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i mean, if you would have heard us, our our whole conversation was like, we all already knew each other. We're just talking from, you know, we were here, but picking up from where we were at.
00:11:31
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was It was quite amazing. Yeah, what was that like for you emotionally to to meet someone else that you had shared all of these experiences with?
00:11:44
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or For me, it it was very emotional and meant a great deal to me, you know, to have that connection support.
00:11:58
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and support you know, um as a star being yeah that we understood each other in a way that I think is pretty unique.
00:12:11
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Yeah. Yes. Same with me. um Until I linked back with my sibling, I sort of ah felt very ah alone down here. um We think in a slightly different way from how people who think down here.
00:12:26
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um So it's very hard for us to fit in. I mean, I had a terrible time at school trying to fit in, for example, and meeting meeting up with one of my own people just meant so much. It just gave me um a lot more, how can I say, support and self-awareness, et cetera, which helped me in turn to be able to do interviews like this and talk about my my work and my books and things.
00:12:53
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Just so much support. Yeah. Yeah, it just seemed like that would that would be very pivotal to know that, you know, you have someone who could kind of have your back with what you were talking about.
00:13:06
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, this this is not an easy planet to work on. um We often make jokes, you know, fun and
00:13:17
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It's it's one one of the most difficult planets, I think, in the whole universe with all the warlike way people go on. And it's so polarised down here. So very polarised as opposed to oneness, which we were brought up in in our last life.
00:13:33
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We were very much into oneness. And so to be able to find that in another person down here is really lovely. Yeah, very difficult to understand.
00:13:45
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why war it makes no sense and and um it's it's just a challenge when you come from a place of unconditional love and then you come into a human body um you know it's it's quite an adjustment and it's it's taken me a long time to understand and society period just in terms of how it functions and things like that. So it's it's still strange to me.
00:14:22
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I think you're not I, yes, yeah, right, James, yeah. um Now, you said Dr. Sprinkle, perhaps part of his mission was was bringing contactees together and in particular youth you two together.
00:14:42
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How do you see your mission here and you know how has that evolved since you
Teaching and Spiritual Missions
00:14:49
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found each other? Well, I learned my mission. um I was told right back 1983 in a full-on daytime encounter with my gray family um that I was to teach, and um which was very confronting back then because they wanted me to teach things like Tai Chi and Reiki and how all the energy things.
00:15:10
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um And I come from a professional dancer background um and I was actually trying to learn to meditate, but I'd never even heard of of Reiki and Tai Chi back then. It wasn't even known here in Australia.
00:15:22
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um So they told me that I would have to move back into the city and I would have years of study ahead of me. And this is exactly what happened. It all happened exactly as they told me. And so that's that's what my work is down here to work as I teach Tai Chi.
00:15:36
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I have been teaching Reiki. I'm not doing it at the moment, but I certainly do Reiki. um So working with the energy and through these interviews, I can communicate with Earth people to explain more about energy, which is a real missing link down here. They don't understand the importance of energy and the fact that we have an energy body, a physical body, is only a very small part of us.
00:16:00
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And I think, Jacqueline, you do the same thing for your work, don't you? Yes, like exactly. To support people and understanding that we are soul.
00:16:14
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and And also that, you know, a lot of my work is um helping people get get connected to their star families. and and understand that we are cosmic citizens and that we are much more than, you know, we think we are or what what humans have, you know, taught people that they are. So I've been doing work with animals psychically for, um my gosh, well, most of my life, but the star beings came to me
00:16:52
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um many years ago, and they said, you know, you're going to start working with people and you're going to start, you had lots of star beings coming in communicating with me, you're going to start working with people about, you know, we we could call it ascension, whatever you want to call it.
00:17:11
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And and at at at that moment, I said, No, I'm, I'm not interested. I'm sticking with the animals. And they said, my star family said no, you're going to be shifting.
00:17:25
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And it, and it exactly, that's what happened. And so a lot of my work is helping people to understand their experiences, to get connected to their star families.
00:17:39
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um And I do a lot of work with the light language to, with people to, you know, the light languages and the starling languages, because they speak many star languages.
00:17:53
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which I love. And so that helps people to get connected and hear their families and hear where they come from, how they speak vibrationally.
00:18:09
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So, yeah. um I came across someone not too long ago who was nervous or anxious about star, sorry, light language, you know, and how it's getting communicated and not being able to maybe discern whether or not it was, want to say good or bad or accurate or or whatnot.
00:18:34
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What might you say to that? Because I didn't have a good response to it. um Well, there are many different light languages and i include the star languages with that.
00:18:50
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And so when someone brings light language through, yeah it's it's like more than speaking light, you embody it and and just share it.
00:19:03
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it It is in a way, sacred geometry, it is the voice of the creator, but the star beings have, each of them have their own frequencies and vibration, and that's what I bring through. Arcturians are different than the Zetas when I speak those.
00:19:22
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And so with with, also with discerning, I always like to just share with people, how does it feel to you? I mean, light language does clear energy out for people and they might feel kind of uncomfortable a little, but in their hearts, if it doesn't feel loving, um heart centered, then I just recommend, you know, that, that they listen to a different light language
00:19:56
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in in that way, because being discerning is very, very important. um With all that's coming in, there's there's so much going on and some interdimensional beings kind of doing their shenanigans, you know, with um kind of trying to play, you know, throw us off track, perhaps.
00:20:24
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But I always, for me, I always connect with the most highly evolved beings to bring through. yeah I actually asked my great teacher, Maris, about that long ago, um because, you know, there's a lot of messages being put out, like whether they're in light language or just, you know, our own languages that we speak.
00:20:44
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And sometimes it is hard to discern whether they're positive or negative. um And he said, don't so much listen to the words or read the words. He said, feel into the energy behind it.
00:20:56
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And I find that that's the way to go, whether it's light language or what, just feel into the energy. And this is a really important message for Earth humans to learn to do, to feel into the energy.
00:21:08
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00:21:31
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00:21:44
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Yeah. um Judy, what could you tell us? You know, you said your your mission being a teacher here. What could you tell us about the human ladder?
00:21:56
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Yes, the human ladder was a teaching given to me and and a friend, my co-author Helene Kay, back in 2001 when we connected with a teacher by the name of Oris who was visiting their family.
00:22:10
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And what Oris explained was the human ladder is a cycle of evolution through the universe of 10 levels. And each level is a deepening, as you say,
00:22:22
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go up the levels, evolve through the levels, is the deepening and um expanding of your conscious awareness. So it's all to do with the amount of consciousness you can tap into.
00:22:34
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Now, this is also intrinsically linked into the DNA, how much DNA we have active. Now, planet Earth, for example, is on level one. So your average Earth human is able to access about 10% of their potential consciousness, whereas level 10, those who are resonating there, can access their full conscious awareness 100%.
00:22:57
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um Coming me back to planet Earth, when when science talks about junk DNA, this is the other 90% or so of our DNA that we haven't ah had activated yet. that This is why we can only access 10% of our potential conscious awareness.
00:23:16
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um So it's basically, it's it's evolution. It's a path of evolution for humans through the universe, opening up to deeper and deeper levels of conscious awareness.
00:23:27
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And in actual fact, Even though we're consciously aware of being on level one here, our soul spans the whole human ladder. And so what self-realisation is about is, again, opening up to more and more higher levels of conscious awareness so that we're opening up more and more to our soul because our soul is the God part of us so and the oneness part.
00:23:52
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So it's coming back to oneness.
00:23:59
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yeah You know, you hear these things and you try to absorb all of it. So when you were, you know, you and Jacqueline were siblings, where were you? is that is is it Or is the human ladder just a human evolution?
Evolutionary Consciousness and Indigo Children
00:24:15
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Like you were a different time and space when you guys were together?
00:24:20
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Yes, we would have been on a higher level of the ladder. Okay. Okay. So we would have had more consciousness. And this is one of the reasons why we find it very hard down here, um because, you know, we have less conscious awareness than we would have had then.
00:24:35
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Okay. Well, we are, do you, do you, do you see us opening up more? Does it seem like more people are starting to awaken? Oh, yes, yes, yes. I mean, this, this is what evolution in the human kingdom is about. And yes, more and more.
00:24:50
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As we shift from fourth world consciousness to fifth world consciousness, that's what that's about. um The average earth human is starting to open up to level two, 20% their conscious awareness, which will give them a lot more um psychic abilities and make them basically geniuses compared to how we are now.
00:25:08
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So how do we get there? How do I, how do I get in that crowd? Well, it's, it's natural it's a natural path of evolution. um But how you help it along is um opening up to spiritual understanding, having a spiritual practice of some sort, which in turn helps to open up your consciousness. It's all tied in consciousness and spirituality, ah totally linked in hand in hand.
00:25:34
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So by opening up to spirituality, you're opening up to more consciousness. This is why I was told to teach Tai Chi and Reiki, because they're things that people can do to help to open up more of their consciousness.
00:25:48
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Yeah, I think that's really important for people to know is that there practices out there that you can you know embody and do to to help this process. Yes, and to understand we're way more than just a physical body. The physical body is such a tiny, tiny component of the whole thing.
00:26:06
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Okay. So yeah. And I, if I might add also, um what's wonderful about what's going on now is that with all the shifts in energy, the junk DNA is now opening. So people are now accessing their natural gifts of like clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience, um, intuition and and also Light language opens those doors for people to grow in consciousness because, you know, I'm in, in speaking the light, it's speaking to the cells in the body. It's speaking to the blueprint. It's speaking to the soul and speaking and all those aspects understand the energy. And the great thing about light language is it bypasses the mind ego and does its work with the soul.
00:27:05
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does its work with the blueprint. So um that is really starting to open people globally and in really big ways. Yeah.
00:27:16
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You know, along but along with what Judy said, you know, it's it all works together. Yeah. The genuine crop circles work the same way. They're symbols like the Reiki symbols do the same thing.
00:27:28
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Right. And the light language symbols too. Yeah. It all works together. Yeah. yeah I think there's been some new crop circles coming up recently too, right? Yeah, think so. I haven't really been following them, but somebody sent me one the other day that was very interesting. Have you, Jacqueline? I haven't really been following them.
00:27:46
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um Yeah, I just saw one recently and well, there were a couple and and one person said it really looked like light language around the crop circle, but I haven't had a time to delve in into it more deeply, but um yeah the crop circles, they have all that energy of the symbols in the crop circles that's, you know, um moving um not only into the earth, but
00:28:20
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over the earth as well to help awaken people. I mean, someone could just look at a crop circle, not know anything about it, but it can still shift them or open them in some way.
00:28:33
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I have recently someone shared one and I tried to sort of meditate on it and see what I felt from it. See if I could into it. It was very interesting experience.
00:28:47
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Um, I had never even thought about doing that before, but that's interesting that you talked about light language and just how you can feel into that. It's very interesting.
00:29:00
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um Jacqueline, could you um educate our viewers about the hybridization program and evolution? Yeah, well, it's a huge subject, but, you know, well, just the yeah yeah yeah overview, maybe. A couple basics, but yeah, so I i guess, um you know, with myself being a hybrid and the many other hybrids, um on earth in that is that we really are bridges and that we are here to help humanity evolve with the evolutionary process.
00:29:44
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and And with the hybridization program, the hybrid children who I have many hybrid children and I've also worked with hybrid children on the star ships that I was on when I was very young and played with the hybrid children and interacted with them. I absolutely loved them.
00:30:07
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and so they play a very important role in evolution because their DNA is, there is star being DNA combined with human DNA.
00:30:20
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And so some of those star children they're in They're integrating more onto Earth in order to help humanity evolve.
00:30:32
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Some of the others stay on the ship, the hybrid children, where they will actually go into other galaxies and they can educate other star beings a little about humanity because they have that human DNA in them as well as the star being.
00:30:54
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DNA and and some of the hybrids have more human DNA, some have more star beings. So it it's it's a vast spectrum of beings and I just see it all for the sake of the evolutionary process for diversity, for continual spiritual expansion for for all for them.
00:31:22
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for them as well as us. Yeah, I had um had Mary Rodwell on, and she talked about the indigo children and it just how incredible they are and the stories that are coming through these children at such a young age and kind of how advanced they are. it's just truly extraordinary. Yeah, apparently a third um DNA um branch has opened up, and some of the scientists have ah discovered it.
00:31:54
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A third strain. mean I've met some kids that just it blows my mind how they can perceive the world and mean past lives but energy and see beings and just they come in with this wisdom that is it just seems ancient. and you know you you're You're talking to a a young child but they're they clearly wiser beyond their biological years.
00:32:20
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Yeah and they're coming in more conscious now. with with those who they are, you know, and those memories where we came in under more of a um veil, you know.
00:32:37
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um So we've kind of had a tougher time with that. But the kids, the children coming in now, they're just coming in. Well, you know, i there was a little girl who you know connected with her parents that well she's about six years old i i came but came from venus my starship crashed on earth um this is what happened to the ship i'm here to do blah blah blah blah they they they are coming in knowing their missions because we really really need that here to ask
00:33:15
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Yeah, I've actually... to be that expedited, you know. Yeah, into it yeah. Sorry, Judy, go ahead. yeah Yeah, I've actually been um told to write a book, a kid's book, children's book, and it's in the process actually now of being published um specifically for the star kids, um for those ones who maybe haven't awakened quite as much, and I'm calling i'm calling it um a Zeta mission, Alaka and Ashgar's awesome adventures on planet Earth.
00:33:44
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So I'll be starting to really push that once it comes out. Yeah, absolutely. What's important information? You know, it's it does seem to me, at least in the um kind of current zeitgeist of things, people are starting to open up like, okay
00:34:05
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you know, yes, there's something going on. There's ships. There's other life. We already have a space program. Maybe there's a secret space program. Maybe there's these other things that are going on. and you know, it's people are asking questions, right? They're being driven by this curiosity.
00:34:23
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And so it's starting to connect more dots for people. And so that's why, I mean, it's honestly why I think it's so important to get you know, your voices out there is because it's, it's one that is rooted in love for each other in in our planet, in our world. And that's not, it doesn't always get communicated with some of the voices in the media.
00:34:47
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That's right. That's for sure. That's for sure. It's all about love. That's the bottom line. It is. Yeah. Unconditional love. Well, you know, we kind of got to the main point there, but let's talk about kind of your experiences with, I know Jacqueline, you kind of were curious about like, how is consciousness different from the human brain or what have Star being shared with you about consciousness?
00:35:16
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And this is for for both of you. Yeah, um i'll I'll go first because um I actually got a teaching on this just recently. What they said to do is to compare our brain in our body, our physical brain, with our physical lungs.
00:35:31
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Air is all around us, but we can only access as much air as our lungs are capable of accessing. Consciousness is all around us, and we can only access as much as our physical brain is able to access.
00:35:48
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Hmm. ah this And this is why while we're in physical form on Earth, we find it very hard to access more than 10% of our potential consciousness. But it's all around there.
00:35:59
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And people who have the experience of leaving their body or a near-death experience, for example, are often aware of having much, much more conscious awareness than they do when they're in the body down here.
00:36:12
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ah know Jacqueline will say the same thing. When we're up on the ship, we're a lot more conscious. And you come back down here and you can't remember a lot of it. It's very frustrating. So what what about like being a jewel soul, Judy, in terms of your accessing consciousness? Is it different for someone like you because you've had all all these experiences?
Consciousness and Communication Techniques
00:36:36
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Yes, yes, it is. Because I have conscious experience of being up on the ship. as clear as, you know, when I'm down here. um I don't feel any different. I realise Jacqueline would would be a Jewel Soul too.
00:36:49
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um We don't feel any different when we're up there as working as greys than we do down here working as humans. um And I have clear memories of this. So, you know, I'm talking from experience here.
00:37:01
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Can you define Jewel Soul for those that don't know? Jewel Soul, where before we were born, We tune into whichever culture we are planning to be born into in our next life. And for most people, they will plan, okay, I'm going to be an earth human or I'm going to be as a Zeta Reticulant or whatever, and that's what they will connect with energetically.
00:37:23
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Those of us who ah who have come here as ambassadors have tuned into two collective consciousnesses before birth. So in in our case, it was earth human and great.
00:37:36
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And that way we can consciously recall experiences in both cultures.
00:37:45
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So fascinating. have Jacqueline, anything you would like to add to that? Yeah, I totally agree with Judy. And i've you know my experience from what the Starbinks have shared with me too about consciousness,
00:38:04
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is consciousness is fundamental and and that everything is but in their own way. So humanity has there their consciousness, but animals and plants, mother earth, they are conscious, but we can't really compare them because it's just in a whole different vibrational way. and
00:38:35
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you know that the brain is beautiful that it helps us process our sensory experiences and information.
00:38:48
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And so when, when I communicate, like with animals, um it's, they communicate and energetically, they're not taught, you know, they're not speaking English to me.
00:39:03
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And my brain and my consciousness is able um to translate, share with that animal's person what the animal's wanting or the star being is wanting to communicate with that person.
00:39:21
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So for me, that's I came in with that. That's just really natural for me. Actually, it's more natural for me than speaking words, hear,
00:39:33
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on Earth, it's much more natural for me um to be telepathic and um to speak these languages since I grew up on a ship, on a starship.
00:39:46
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So, but I i think that, um you know, everything has consciousness, but humanity is still growing in the sense into their potential.
00:40:02
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of consciousness, you know, how much they can be aware of. um and And we grow and, you know, I've had three near death experiences. So but but you know, I was like, what the heck, you know, but it's like, but what, ah but finally what I learned from that and was told is it's all initiations to, in order to grow in consciousness.
00:40:33
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It does seem to have that effect with the near, givep it breaks something open in in people. and Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And so i think that, um again, we are um at this point, I do think humanity is really opening more and more to their consciousness and and actually to how wonderful their brains are.
00:41:05
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You know, the brain is physical and like Judy said, the consciousness is always around us and we can access it or not. I mean, I'm, you know, there's layers and layers that I see inter-dimensionally. I just see layers and layers and layers of dimensions that where there are different beings, I see all kinds of light language symbols, that's there for everybody.
00:41:31
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all the time when they're ready. Yeah, it's amazing to me. you know it's
00:41:41
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You have shared been sharing your message for a while and you know it's it's there for anyone that is ready to hear it. it's But it's always fascinating to me when you know I try to look for certain things and then all of a sudden I find something like, oh my gosh, this was she's been saying this thing forever.
00:42:02
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and how did I miss it it was right there it it's just it wasn't in my awareness that's funny as a mindfulness teacher it's like you know when you you're sometimes you're just not ready to hear it and and then and then finally you are and then it's like oh my gosh it was right in front of me the whole time yeah I mean it's all here and now that's the thing you know in in the greater reality there's no time no space it's all here and now but it's our ability to be able to access it yes I know it's so hard to wrap your head around that though, Judy.
00:42:34
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and
00:42:38
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Okay. So we both, we all feel that people are awakening and expanding in consciousness more. ah What, you know, you, you kind of talked about a few things already, but what could we do to
00:42:55
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to expand our creativity or empower ourselves and raise our vibrations.
00:43:02
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Or I think take up a spiritual practice of some sort. That's the bottom line. Yeah. What do you reckon Jacqueline? I think that's, yeah, I, I think that's really good. I mean, like meditation or Tai Chi or, you know, something that, that gives a consistency um, or um working with toning or so you know, what whatever that person resonates with.
00:43:32
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and And I think in in a basic way, also what raises our frequencies naturally is first of all, laughter and um singing, listening to music, walking in the woods, touching trees and flowers, playing with,
00:43:55
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an animal like a dog or a cat or whatever that animal might be. um And, and also i think to, to, you know, walk on the earth, you know, the touch earth and, and just feel her love for us and, and act like a kid.
00:44:19
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you know, run around in the grass, um, you know, do something fun, walk in the mud, and, and light language also, you know, which, um, I do consider a spiritual sort of practice. I, you know, i speak light language every day.
00:44:41
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and i agree with Judy that, you know, there's some great practices like Tai Chi, um, and others, again, it's I think whatever the person resonates with for them, i think can really lift their their vibrations.
00:45:04
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Jacqueline, you said you you speak it every day. Is it um like a like a ritual, like a practice, like, or is it like a channeling or or what?
00:45:15
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I just kind of walk around talking and speaking it a lot. Yeah. During the day. um Sometimes I know if there's a star being speaking to me, i can hear them um speaking to me and star language and then I might start speaking back.
00:45:33
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um But I talked to the trees and light language because they're light and they have their own language of light so I can hear them um speaking to me as well. So each each being has their own energetic expression of light and love.
00:45:58
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I hope that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, if what was communicated to me from a a channeler, ah so a Syrian collective, I suppose, but they said, you know, one of the best things you can do is get some vitamin N, go out in nature.
00:46:20
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yeah yeah is it just being you know go exactly what you said you know walk barefoot ground yourself hug a tree play laugh you know roll it around but just you know that we're talking about consciousness but you know i'm sure you know some people will know but the the earth is conscious yes everything is everything everything yeah exactly everything is And um yeah, it's, I mean, it really is wonderful. I'm constantly communicating with, when I go out for a walk, I'm communicating with all these, you know, everything that I see, trees, flowers, all these beings.
00:47:05
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um Judy and I love flowers. and And so I'm always communicating and listening to them sing. They sing. it's It's just amazing. i'm I'm in awe all the time.
00:47:19
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oh of nature and trees I visit every day when I go out walking in the summer. They're my friends. They're my teachers. They teach me things all the time. if i'm If I'm having a day where I'm not feeling very well, you know, just feeling kind of crappy about life or something, I'll lay my back against the tree and I'll just put my arms out and they'll just fill me with their love and remind me what a beautiful soul I am uplift me um and to remind me that we're, you know, they're my friends, we're all connected and the trees have a lot to teach, lot to teach. So do the flow of nature does.
00:48:15
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yeah And it's all, you know, I mean, even in cities, you know, there are spaces for that, um but that it's around us and we can access it. It's not, you know, not far away from us typically.
00:48:32
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Yeah. yeah That's really wonderful. So what, what stories can you share or would you be willing to share some of the fun things that you've learned on these ships?
Humorous Starship Adventures
00:48:46
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For those that are so curious, I want to know what is it like. art how bad How about the little being that I collected on that planet that started expanding?
00:49:01
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Would you like to tell that story? yeah you can tell it. We used to go out to different planets that when when we were in our in our last grey life.
00:49:15
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we used to go to different planets and collect, um you know, little beings and things. We'd always get their permission first. We wouldn't just take them. um so So we could bring them back and study them.
00:49:28
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And I found this fascinating little thing on one planet, tiny little thing, I thought, oh, this would be an interesting one to take back and study. So I took it on onto the ship and it must have started panicking or something and it started expanding.
00:49:45
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And it got bigger and bigger and bigger and started putting out this awful smell.
00:49:55
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Sam Tukai had to turn the ship around to take it back because We just couldn't couldn't handle the smell, and and it was just trying to fill the whole ship. Can you add anything to that?
00:50:06
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Yeah. Aren't you embarrassed to go any further? No, you're fine. That's where wanted you to start. Anyway, but, yeah, so I was Antukai. and And so, yeah, so with Judy being.
00:50:21
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Lorca. Yeah. I was going to say my sister in that life, that um that she would, was what's the word in uh um like like to um um curious no curious and all that anyway so yeah so we we um had to turn the ship around i was commander of the s ship at that time and uh so i had to we had to turn the wrap the ship around
00:50:56
Speaker
and take the being back because it was so bad and all the crew members were just like what what is your sister done and so so we had to take that being back to the planet drop it off and and yeah so being brother and sister we had that that kind of relationship even what was going on with the being
00:51:24
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I think it it thought it wanted to come, but when we started taking it back and away from its home environment, it started panicking. Yeah, yeah. Like anxiety or... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. but But sometimes Judy would want to um bring things on a ship that I wasn't particularly wild about, it brings. Yeah.
00:51:53
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I think you had a feeling something like that was going to happen, didn't you? ah With that one? I think you weren't real happy about bringing that one on board. No. Yeah, I snuck it on board. but I could because it small, so I could get it on board without you knowing.
00:52:07
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No, so, I mean, we just had to set some new boundaries and work with each other a little differently.
00:52:19
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And it took ages to get the smell out of the ship. Yes. Yeah, so, but but we were very close. very Lorca and I were very, very, very close.
00:52:30
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ah Yeah. you You said you were the commander of the ship. How did you, like did you control the ship um psychically with your mind or how did that work?
00:52:43
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Well, yeah, to um the kind the ship has consciousness. And so all of us would everybody, we would join our consciousness together and be as one with the ship.
00:53:02
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And that way, you know, we we could go and be wherever we wanted to with being aligned as one energetically with that consciousness and we could jump into whatever dimension we wanted to jump in or out of.
00:53:24
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And so, but it was, you know, not just me, it's everybody on the ship has to be aligned in one. and and yeah, we all did, yeah we all did that well until that poor being came on the ship.
00:53:43
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So, but anyway, it's a fun story. It's a fun story. and can actually remember, i don't know if you can remember this, Jacqueline, but I remember before we set off anywhere, we used to do it like a dance type practice, almost like Tai Chi now, to bring us all into oneness to enable us to operate the ship.
00:54:07
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We we would we would just, yeah, bring. Yeah. bring all of our consciousness together. Yeah. i Yeah. yeah Yeah. so So sounds pretty wild, but it really it's true.
00:54:26
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and and hopefully it will, you know, help everybody understand that the star beings, again, do have emotions and relationships.
00:54:38
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They have families and children. You know, humanity is not the only species that um does that.
00:54:51
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Yeah. I was curious as you're telling the story, you're like, well, we had to set some boundaries. Are there ah are being therapists? Well, it was basically me talking to my sister. So. So.
00:55:09
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but so um just to get some clarity. We still get away with what we can get away with. Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:55:19
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Yeah. And when you were on ship together, were you just exploring the universe? Like what, what were you guys doing? We used to go out and collect specimens because the the greys specialize in adapting different types of being beings and creatures um to different planetary environments. Now, for example,
00:55:39
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When animals down here become extinct, we make sure that we have their DNA so that they can be reproduced and adapted elsewhere so that if they need to continue evolving, they can.
00:55:52
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And that was work we specialised in. We used to travel around sort of carrying out the scientific work, collecting DNA, and we'd bring some back and adapt them to our environment or adapt them to wherever they needed to be. So it was like an adaptation of creatures and studying their ecology.
00:56:10
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That's super interesting because Jacqueline, when you talk about the mantis beings, ah my understanding is they're master geneticists. and So there's different roles that these species are beings are playing.
00:56:26
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Right. Yeah. Yes. And um it's beautiful because they all know what their mission is and and working together with that harmony Like when I was on the ship as a child, I i got to see.
00:56:44
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um And when Judy and I were on that ship, everyone just works in harmony. Everyone knows what their role is. and how to fit in. So when I was on the ship as a child, there were mantis beings, there were Arcturians, there were Venusians, which were plant-like beings, um you know, tall white Zeta masters, which were my parents then in this life.
00:57:13
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um And they all knew their role, what their roles were. And it it just was, perfect harmony, it it was amazing.
00:57:28
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was amazing. So
Choosing Love Over Fear in Spiritual Evolution
00:57:31
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interesting. It's just hard to comprehend how, you know, at some point we're going to evolve and in that sort of sense where we get along in that way or we're not fighting each other, trying to figure out or one-up each other in some sense, that there's this harmony and working together to, you know, advance the the universe.
00:57:54
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that yeah And that's why we're trying to, um as bridges here, trying to support in the spiritual evolutionary process.
00:58:08
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You know, it's not only, you know, physically the DNA shifting and all that, it's about the heart and makes me very emotional when i talk about it, but you know it is about the heart and the evolution and spiritually of remembering that we are love and light.
00:58:29
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Yeah. Planet Earth is one of the most polarized planets in the whole universe and the polarization comes out of love or fear. they're That's the choice you've got to make.
00:58:39
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And we're being tested continuously. Do we choose love or do we choose fear? Correct, yeah. And and when um when we talk about fear, we're not talking about being scared of, um you know, falling off a cliff or something. It's not that.
00:58:52
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It's racism, religious intolerance, fear of anyone who looks different to us, the old herd instinct. yeah That's what we've got to overcome. Yes, yes.
00:59:04
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Well, you know, listening to you talk about it, just the different races, the Arcturians, the Zetas, the tall white, ah you know, or the the, was it the tall white Arcturians?
00:59:18
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Tall white Zeta Masters. Tall white Zeta Masters. But the harmony that among all of them, they seem to to coexist in. It really is, it is hard, but in towards and it moves me every time i think of it, you know, when I was on the ship a lot as a child and that's why I never wanted to come back to earth. I just want them to stay on the ship.
00:59:46
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It's like, do I really have to go back there? But yeah, you've got work to do there. um So here we are and we did agree Yes, we did. Silly of us, but we did.
01:00:00
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I remember being up on the ship once and I had to come back and honestly, I was i was doing that pussycat star jump in the door. They were literally trying to push me off. I was crying my eyes out. I don't want to go back. I don't want to go back.
01:00:12
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And one of the little greys was saying, you've got to go back. You can't stay here. You've got to go.
01:00:18
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Do you remember that, Judy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We also remember we were talking about it once, Jacqueline working up on the ship and how upset we get when we have Earth humans there who are crying and screaming and terrified.
01:00:35
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And we can't get through to them telepathically because they're so much in fear they've closed themselves off like in a cocoon. And we're we're trying to get through telepathically to tell them to calm down. It's okay. We're only going to help help you. We're not here to hurt you.
01:00:50
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And it upsets us. Some of our people have to leave the clinic. We get so upset by it.
01:00:58
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Yeah, it it's like because the from the human perspective, the human mind in that, they're in fear because they don't really understand what what's going on and that we are trying to help them. They they see it as we're trying to hurt them somehow.
01:01:25
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That isn't the case in our instance. we're We're talking about our race. I can't talk about all races because there's the full spectrum, but from our our race and our experience on the ship, like trying to comfort them and that, it's very hard because the ego, you know, doesn't like anything unfamiliar.
01:01:51
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Yeah, that's right. Yeah. It goes in. Yeah. Yeah. ah It's just, it's, I think it's important to know, you know, of all the things that we get shown about,
01:02:08
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just that there's this tremendous love and compassion for humanity and what we're going through. and um, it's, it's very different than the, you know, alien invasion, you know, stay in fear and, you know, allow this, uh,
01:02:27
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I don't know, totalitarianism to to kind of control us. It's like, you know, it's it's far more loving and empowering. And I just yeah really want to highlight that and appreciate you sharing the, you know, tremendous amount of love. I mean, for people watching this, I mean, I would imagine you could feel it. And also the energy coming through.
01:02:49
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There is an energetic transmission being had between all of us right now. You could feel it, can't you? Absolutely. yeah Yeah, for sure. what What do you feel like people need to know like you that you could add um in this communication?
01:03:15
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You got anything, Jacqueline, you want to put in?
01:03:21
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I think if people can remember um
01:03:29
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to live from the heart. To me, that's always the bottom line, to live from the heart. And the star beings have always told me this, to live from the heart, to keep things simple.
01:03:43
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um We're all one. And and that i I've been teaching that for over 40 years in my classes with animal communication, as well as with a star being.
01:03:56
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work is real and I think that's very bottom line because when it comes down to it when all of us drop if we have forms or not forms or whatever we're all one yes that's that's the key to the whole thing we are all work on one we're all love and light
01:04:19
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And that's the truth. That's the bottom line. Truth, whether it be a star being human, cat, dog, tree. yeah We're all one. Yeah. and we And we all have the God essence within us.
01:04:33
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we're We're not an earth human with a soul floating around somewhere. We are a soul undergoing a human life experience. We are a soul. um If we can understand that, that we are a soul, and that soul is God. God's not an old man up on a cloud. God's within all of us. God is an energy.
01:04:52
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um If we can just take that on board fully, we are fully protected. That's the bottom line. Yeah, we're an expression of the creator. Yeah.
01:05:03
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right Yes, we're all expressions of the creator. Yeah. Jacqueline, would you um be willing to share some light language?
01:05:13
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Oh, I would be honored. Yeah. i it It's always fun. ah Yeah, no, I think it would be very, very neat to hear if you could.
01:05:23
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Okay, sure.
01:05:28
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01:06:02
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01:06:25
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wow so So I can just feel the energy flowing out and hope you can it. That's um actually like a blessing and just really expressing the heart energy.
01:06:43
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ah um And this is coming from where Judy and I came from. Oh, from, yeah. From, from the grace, you know, the kind of the mix of Octurian gray or so it's like that's really wonderful that came through and just reminding us again um anyone who would listen to this this is opening the third eye some as well as opening the throat and opening the heart if they um choose to receive and and so i think people will probably
01:07:27
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Yeah. yeah That wonderful energy. Well, thank you so much for sharing that. That's really lovely. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.
01:07:38
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um Anything else, Judy, you'd like to add before we wrap this communication up?
Closing Remarks and Resources
01:07:45
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Yes. Look, a message that we were given years ago by our teachers, and um it sums up what We're trying to teach to understand our universe in terms of oneness, to understand our universe in terms of energy and to understand ourselves in terms of oneness and energy, thus enabling us to choose love over fear.
01:08:13
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Beautiful. And Judy, do you, where can people find you, your work? ah If you have a copy of your book, you know, I can put links in the show notes.
01:08:27
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Anything you'd like to share? Yes. All my books are available on Amazon so they can get them there. kind Some of them are hard copies and some are in ebook form.
01:08:38
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um I'm also on Facebook. The page is ZetaMessage on Facebook. So they can go in there and check us out. We also have a YouTube channel.
01:08:50
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I just yeah love YouTube. That's the name of your podcast, correct? Yeah, that's right. Yes. Which is beautiful. It always loving. Yeah.
01:09:01
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Thank you. and now And Jacqueline, boy i know you I think you have a workshop coming up and some some other things. Um, well, yes, I, um, just did a workshop last weekend on teaching people how to communicate with star beings, which was really fun.
01:09:20
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And then I have, I'm going to be on a light language panel in September. um and I will be, sharing that if people want to check at my website and subscribe to me, I send out a newsletter.
01:09:36
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um And, and then I'll be teaching another workshop in October, possibly on the mantis beings. Yeah. And maybe one in between there.
01:09:47
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So my website is www.jacalynsmith.com. And you know I have free light language samples and downloads that people can do, a free e-book on mantises, and lots of information about You know, the sessions I do the star being work I do with people and experience with experiencers and light language as well.
01:10:19
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And um also have a YouTube but that if they go to my website, they can. find that as well on Facebook and all that. So great. Yeah. I see a ah little mantis being next to you and some of your light language art in your book. Yes. Yes.
01:10:38
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Yes. My books are being in the mirror. yeah which is great block And hopefully, you know, my intention in writing is, was two support people with their experiences and to kind of, um,
01:10:55
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bring it help bring in a new paradigm not fear but most of my experiences were really wonderful and to share those Jacqueline may I ask what kind of pendant you're wearing what stone is that yes this is a moonstone okay and i just love it um I just recently got it and um i knew I was supposed to wear it tonight And I felt like it's just perfect. We just had the new moon yesterday and it just has lovely
01:11:30
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um feminine energy and just expansive energy. So that's great. Yeah. Well, it's very beautiful. Thank you for sharing that.
01:11:43
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Thank you. Okay, anything else you want to add before we we wrap up here? It's been so, this is like such a cool thing to have. I mean, like you have so one of the most extraordinary stories I've ever heard. And it's, you know, to have you together, you know, sharing these things is just, it's truly wonderful.
01:12:03
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It's great fun. I meant to mention too, I've got a website, ufograyinfo.com. Okay, and I will link to these things as well, for sure. Yeah, great. Yeah, and lovely.
01:12:17
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Yeah, this has been really, really fun Well, you know, thank you for sharing this this love, this communication, this this energy, you know, and this this co-creation, this transmission.
01:12:31
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You know, these these topics are important as, you know, our evolution is progressing. And it's important to know that, you know, your voices are out there sharing truth um to help dispel fear and to bring in a new era of love. So thank you very much.
01:12:48
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Thank you for having us, James. Yeah, thank you, James. Absolutely. All right. Well, you have a wonderful, wonderful day. Same to you. like
01:13:02
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