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Debbi Dachinger — From Skeptic to Shaman
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Debbi Dachinger is an international bestselling author, shamanic energy practitioner, and host of the award-winning Dare to Dream Podcast.
In this conversation, Debbi shares the personal journey that led her from skepticism into shamanic work — including experiences that challenged her worldview and ultimately changed the direction of her life.
We talk about listening to inner guidance, surrendering when the path isn’t clear, healing generational patterns, and why stillness continues to be an essential part of her work.
This episode is an exploration of what can unfold when we stop resisting a calling we don’t yet fully understand.
Connect with Debbi:
https://debbidachinger.com/
James O'Neill & Journey Mindfulness:
https://journeymindfulness.com/
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Transcript
Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
00:00:00
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Welcome to the Journey Mindfulness Podcast, where the inner world meets the infinite. I'm James O'Neill, and together we explore consciousness, the soul, mindfulness, and the mysteries beyond our world, and most importantly, how to integrate all of it into the life you're living right now.
00:00:28
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Welcome to the Journey Mindfulness Podcast. I'm thrilled to have a have with us today, Debbie Dashinger, an international bestselling author, shamanic energy pra practitioner, and the host of the award-winning Dare to Dream podcast for the past 17 Debbie dedicates her work to helping creators and spiritual messengers share their transformative messages throughout the world, writing and through media.
00:00:56
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Her own journey spans shamanic healing, exploration of consciousness, and speaking on stages around the globe. Debbie, it is wonderful to have you here to share your wisdom and inspiring story with our listeners. Welcome to the show.
Debbie's Spiritual Journey and Transformative Experiences
00:01:11
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Thank you, James. And I am vibing off of all this beautiful sacred geometry behind you and the books. Like actually everything behind you has a vibration and I feel myself really settling in So I am thrilled to connect with you as well. Thank you for inviting me.
00:01:33
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Well, it's a pleasure. And Debbie, you've spent I don't know, 17 years, maybe more. ah You help people. You are yourself a powerful creator being, but that is kind of what you do is you steward other people as well. It's one of the many hats that you wear.
00:01:55
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What first called you to this work? Was there a moment when you knew that this was your path?
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It was a journey. It was a journey. There wasn't a moment, but I had moments that were reference points because, excuse me, I was very much a media person.
00:02:16
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I had my podcast, Dare to Dream. And at the same time, I was coaching people how to write a book. I was doing publicity work, getting people booked on podcasts.
00:02:28
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And I got a call that was very unexpected. And it was from deep within me that recommended that I start engaging with ayahuasca. And I really was very closed off to it.
00:02:43
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But When these things come in a very divine way, there's a different feeling. It's not like a suggestion or a nudge. There is like a knowing that comes with it. So I surrendered to that and I began to engage. And one of my many, and this is many years ago, one of my many experiences, I went out of country.
Past Lives and Spiritual Roles
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I did four nights back-to-back different types of ayahuasca. Lots of healing, lots of amazing experiences. And on top of it, starting the first evening, I had an energy that was source energy speak to me. It's very feminine.
00:03:25
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And she said, Debbie, you're a healer. You're a shaman. You're a priestess. And these words were, as far as relating to me,
00:03:39
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very confusing. I was in that world. i was deeply spiritual. I was drinking at the moment with these extraordinary shamanic beings, but these beings had spent decades in the jungles. These beings have been chosen by their lineage and by spirit. They had gone through rites of passage I couldn't imagine.
00:04:01
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So that alone was very strange. I'm like, I'm drinking. i don't, what is that? The healer part, Many people who came on my show or were friends with me were healers, but I didn't see that in myself.
00:04:19
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So I argued and ah Starting night two, she came back again, said the same thing. You're a healer, shaman, priestess. And she began to show me aspects of myself. Well, night after night, she came and said the same thing. I had many divine experience within this, including her unrelentingly telling me I needed to get a blessing from the shaman before I left, that I was a shaman.
00:04:51
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And it felt embarrassing at the time, but because she wouldn't let up, I finally just relinquished control, asked for what she said I should ask for. oops And beautifully enough, the shaman said yes.
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Came back to the United States, told a very gifted friend of mine who immediately said, we need to do some regression work.
Awakening and Extraterrestrial Awareness
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and understand this confusion for you.
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And God bless him because he changed my path. He was one of the beginnings besides this divine voice. And this aspect of their aggressions, I absolutely and immediately saw myself as a male shaman in one session, in another session, super skinny and tall, over seven feet tall,
00:05:40
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And poised and powerful in a way I'd never experienced a human on this planet. And I wanted to understand her better because she was the priestess of her people, excuse me.
00:05:52
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yeah And she lived in a temple and it was made known to me Mayan. And so I was asking her ah mostly about her abilities because I wanted also to understand if this is an aspect of me, how do I manifest like that? how i How do I be like that? Because it's so beautiful.
00:06:12
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Yeah. And she very kindly corrected all my assumptions and said, I'm not from here. I'm from another galaxy. Yeah. and I'm from another species.
00:06:25
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Now at the time, i was a non-believer in extraterrestrials, complete skeptic about UFOs. So this was pretty shocking. But again, that moment where I felt the truth.
00:06:41
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I had met myself. How could I deny that? So when I came out with more information, I decided the next step, I must open myself up to this.
00:06:53
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And because I didn't know any other way to do it, I started she seeking out shamans. And first I worked with this beautiful Peruvian shaman in the mountains for eight months and we had extraordinary experiences doing journeys.
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And then I started working with a Peruvian shaman for six months. um And i actually got certified. And so I was fascinated to learn more about it here.
00:07:24
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But what happened was all of me changed drastically because there's a lot of shamanic healing work and going to other realms and becoming a hollow bone. And while I'm doing this work and working on people as part of the program,
00:07:40
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Stuff is changing in me radically. And then I start receiving all these downloads, information, connections, and I'm shifting my show, my podcast, because I'm so curious about extraterrestrials. So I'm becoming edified there. And this sort of explodes open the journey for me.
00:08:03
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So it's a big moment. It took place over a couple of years, but there were those... Pockets where something happened that illuminated more what was happening, why it was happening, or a new direction to go.
Integration of Spiritual Insights
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Well, that that powerful moment of surrender where you're faced with perhaps an aspect of yourself and trying to make sense of that. And it completely alters the course of your journey and maybe even collapses your timeline or you you heal your timeline as you kind of accelerate through your own awakening.
00:08:43
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Yeah, that's beautifully said. I never thought of it like that. But when I hear you say that, James, I know that's true. I'm not who I was before. I'm not where I was before. Opportunities are present today on this timeline that are extraordinary. And am very, um I'm in love with this life that I'm in net right now. I couldn't have dreamt it.
00:09:13
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Although I'm pretty sure my soul was aware. And I am so grateful for the people who showed up, the shamans, the healer who did those regressions, and absolutely the divine, you know, the source energy had so much to work with. i think so was i was a skeptic. I was open-minded, but I was a big eye roller about lots of things. So like, she's telling me this stuff. I'm like, ah. i thought ah Well,
00:09:45
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I think you know Reuben Langdon. You talk about like, you know, it's easy to doubt UFOs until you see one. And then you can't, no matter what how rational you are, it's like, all right, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. It's like, it's already, it's out now.
00:10:05
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We can't go back. Very true. Ruben's a friend of mine. And I think all of us and probably you, right? And probably people who are watching or listening to us right now can look at times in their lives when there was a huge pivot, when something else was presented. And if we know enough to surrender or at least be curious about it,
00:10:30
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And if not those two, then follow energy. That's one thing I've been able to do in my life is follow energy. When something percolates, even if it's completely unknown or confusing, just to say, oh, I don't know what this is, but I feel something inside of me and it feels a little interested or excited about this.
Approach to Life: Energy and Change
00:10:51
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It could mean nothing. it could go nowhere, but I have to at least find out. And that's been massive changes multiple times in my life. That is being very mindful though, because there's all these subtle signs. You know, you talk about the energy, but the energy is always there. We're just not always paying attention to it.
00:11:14
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Yeah. I think we all have our wheelhouse and, um, That, I guess, is one of mine is, you know, I can walk on the street. It's very interesting to me or in crowds or situations. And I can have my boyfriend or a friend say to me, oh, my God, did you see that person? They the coolest tattoos or oh, whoa, that did you see that outfit? And I'm like thinking, where was I?
00:11:42
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I didn't see that at all. And they just passed by or. And so I know that people see these big pictures in ways or notice details like that outside of them. I think I'm very self-aware of what's happening inside of me And if it's not inside, it's, and I'm just recognizing this in the moment as I'm saying this to you, a bit of an aha. Or if it's outside of me, then it's engaging with that aspect of me inside that is interested. That is, I don't look for these things, but I'm open to them.
00:12:22
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Thank God, because if I'm an open-minded set skeptic, I'm really glad I'm also super open to things that present. And there's a lot of times that things will present as a flat line for me. I'm like, well no, I'm just not feeling it at all. And there's other times where I'm like,
00:12:41
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I just, this is, there's an opportunity here somehow. and You know, i was thinking about this this morning too, because I know like numbers are really important these days. How many numbers you have on social? How many numbers you have on your podcast? It's a little exhausting.
00:12:58
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And I was just feeling like that just doesn't always matter because for instance, I was thinking about being with you and I was thinking feeling gratitude that I've had people over the years who have said to me, i heard you interviewed on, and it's something from a long time ago, but as you and I know in podcast world, it's out there forever more, amen, as though it's evergreen, as though it's happening now and people can still click in.
00:13:27
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yeah and And it's amazing, this modality. And I was just feeling gratitude for the people who have found me book clients, amazing book client I'm working with right now. Crazy about this guy and what he's creating and um and all the success that's coming to him as we're working together.
00:13:45
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And then I have people come to me for PR stuff still, you know, I have a hand in that. And then I have people who come to me for the the shaman healing, who engage, i do a once a month program where for 90 minutes, I work on the group, and it's pretty profound. And so they find me in these ways. And I was just thinking, that stuff we're taught.
00:14:06
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I don't think that matters. I just think you need to resonate with the right person out there who hears you and goes, I want more of that. I want to work with that person, know that person.
00:14:18
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um So I'm grateful for platforms like yours and all of what's possible.
00:14:25
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I think what ah what inspires me a lot and what drew me to you too is this concept of you know i was listening to a previous episode that you had with Addison Ames, who channels Metatron.
00:14:40
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He was just talking about how what a powerful like your energy and how powerful of a of a being you are But that light that you carry helps spawn all these other lights too. It's like you're helping to turn them on, right? Like you help facilitate that in the ah in like the daily life of people, right? It's like integrating that energy.
00:15:05
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um and so there's a or a propulsion, right? Or this, it keeps going, which is was fascinating, right? Like just the impact that you can have on people just by being you.
00:15:18
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Thank you. We all have a light and it is, i mean, besides coming here to have fun and experience love and probably heal some stuff on top of that, our light is meant for something. And it's really different for each of us. And I truly believe that when we connect with the path, we that is meant for us, what we're good at, what we love to do, where we impact people.
00:15:47
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And that could be anything, any realm at all. It doesn't have to be visible. Then i think your light shines really well and people respond really well.
00:16:02
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I know I'm doing what I need to do. I was not always here. i mean, once upon a time I worked at NASA, which for most people, they would knock people over to get into that company.
00:16:18
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that government organization. But it wasn't like that for me. I mean, there were aspects I really loved, but it was not where I was supposed to be. And I've done many jobs like that in my previous life where
00:16:34
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I was doing it for the wrong reasons, but mostly because I didn't believe in myself, like to go out on my own. That was huge. And then I did
Gene Keys and Personal Growth
00:16:44
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it. And of course, that's an uptake too, to start learning, oh my God, how do you market and business and make money?
00:16:50
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And I have a lot of grace for all those different sectors in my life. and i And I just know like, um, One of the things I've been very interested in lately is the Gene Keys, G-E-N-E, which was created by this genius, Richard Rudd.
00:17:09
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ah He really is a genius, right? I mean, what he downloaded, i don't even understand. the breadth of that download for so many different people, where you were born, when you were born, the time you were born, and then all the different, like I'll call them bubbles for the different portions of your life. But I was, I wish I had the sheet in front of me, I'd show you, I have a packet this big that I was just highlighting on my trip out of country.
00:17:41
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Cause I really wanted to learn about the shadow of me that derails my gift because Richard says, when you heal that shadow aspect, you step into the city, the SIDDHI aspect of you, and you can fully own your shadow as well as transform it even more into your brilliance.
00:18:06
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And I thought, I'll have some of that, please. So I was reading it and it's like, wow, wow. It says definitely what I've experienced, the things that have held me back um for sure and or given me an experience I don't prefer.
00:18:25
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And as it kept talking about my city, I could also see concurrently, this is so interesting. I've got a foot in both worlds. It is way less in the shadow than it certainly was when I was a kid, teenager, all the things. But um there's so much that's been healed in that realm, which allows the city to become so much bigger and more expressive. And yet there's still some tendrils And I'm really willing to look at that.
00:18:58
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And interesting, some people who are listening will probably laugh, but a lot of what would heal my shadow, it says like almost over and over and over again,
00:19:11
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is stillness.
00:19:15
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And it doesn't have to be meditation. I'm aware of that. It could be my shamanic practices. There are many wonderful things I've done over the years, but it is asking me to be consistent.
00:19:26
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I'm being really transparent here. yeah Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. It's really saying, if you will do this, my love, we will give you that.
00:19:37
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you will built You were built to supersede these wounds. and the wounds that drive you and the overwhelm that you create. and And some of the, you know, the stress and the fear, like I totally get that. Some of those are aspects of what I experienced, the trauma growing up.
00:19:55
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Some of that is what I saw. Some of the, a lot of that is what I rejected. that I saw in those that raised me. And I thought, I don't ever want to be like that. And guess what?
00:20:06
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you know and you replicate it instead of loving and appreciating that aspect. And so here I am at this juncture in my lineage and I get to heal it.
00:20:20
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I get to be the one who's responsible for it. for everybody who came before me and also to redefine the quality of my life.
Healing Generational Trauma and Stillness
00:20:32
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Yeah. That's very powerful to be aware that you can heal or stop generational trauma or this ancestral stuff that's been going on forever and transmute it into loving, um,
00:20:51
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a loving creation in this world. And it's, it's fascinating that you you say that because one of the things I was going to ask you about is, you know, as a shamanic energy practitioner, ah you have all these hats, you're a bestselling author, podcast host, you are a singer. ah How do you stay, your point about stillness, grounded, wearing all those hats and doing all, you know, ah you have all these balls in the air.
00:21:21
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I am a really grounded person. I am, period. I also have a very strong relationship with Mother Earth. I am aware of oh my gosh, what word do I even use?
00:21:36
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That she lives and breathes and is aware of me. I have a very strong bond with her. i I think I'm naturally very rooted and ah fortunate in that. in that Nothing really interferes. And there are times I have to switch lanes.
00:22:00
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ah The best example is probably singing because my partner and I do do gigs. A lot of transformational people will bring us to their retreats. We do very uplifting songs. They're very fun and they're very heartwarming.
00:22:18
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So when we do that, I have to rehearse. And that means that things just change. I know there's a certain time I have to end my work. It's a certain time I need to eat dinner. And there's a certain amount of days i know, because I've been singing since I'm, you know,
00:22:37
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zero years old. So I know what it takes for us to get there and for me to be very comfortable with the music and the program we put together for the event.
00:22:50
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That's the best example, but it's about reprioritizing at the time. And it does keep changing. And i have been engaging also with the universe, my highest self at this time, because I'm really aware of what takes the most out of my day and out of my being.
00:23:12
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Every result is joyous. I actually love everything I do when I have clients. I really attract great people because they say you attract yourself.
00:23:23
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Oh, I didn't mean it like that. I didn't mean it very egoistic. I mean, very spiritual people, very people who are hungry and will do the work, people who want to get ahead. I want to write that book. I want to be a bestseller. I want to be interviewed like they're excited and they're great to work with.
00:23:39
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So they're in my tribe, I guess is what I mean. And so that is also joyous. All these aspects are great, but I am starting to become clear that there are certain things that need to change.
00:23:52
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And so I've been talking, you know, with my reality basically, and putting out some ideas about how that could shift and always ending it with, or something better.
00:24:05
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Because this is what my mind is conceiving, but you may have, because you often do, you may have some ideas for me that in my wildest dreams I wouldn't conceive, but that would serve me so much better so I can do the mission I came here to do and be. And I'm getting, I'm very open to that right now. And maybe that's reading the gene keys. Maybe the gene keys also came at a time when I'm like, I'm feeling the need to pivot because I am.
00:24:37
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i really am energetically. And it's a perfect time on this planet for me, for everybody to do that, for reevaluate. um I would agree. i faith i think we're there, right?
The Year 2025 and Transitional Insights
00:24:50
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yeah that's ah that's a maybe a great segue into, yeah, how do you see... sort of the landscape right now. I mean, in the the transition, you know, some of the people in my world that I try telling, you know, whether I say use the word ascension or shift, or, you know, it's just a transition period for a lot of people. um But it's a great time to work on yourself and and find a way to level up or or change things in your life.
00:25:21
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Yes, that's ah such a beautiful and big question. And so much came up when you were saying that. You are correct, a thousand percent correct. And I think all of us alive right now can sense certainly the change outside, but there wouldn't be change on the outside or chaos if it wasn't on the inside.
00:25:48
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And so just to start, we're living in 2025, the year of the wooden snake. And in shamanic terms, the snake is the only being or animal, if you will, that crawls on its belly, that doesn't have limbs.
00:26:06
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And every time the snake has outgrown its shell, it knows it has to release its skin.
00:26:17
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And so the snake will find a rock and it will edge its face against the rock to create a tear. And from that one tiny tear, it will keep wriggling on its belly in order to, in one movement, release its entire skin on the path and then keep going because it's just been reborn.
00:26:39
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That is such a beautiful illusion for all of us right now. We are all being called to let go, release, surrender what doesn't work, let go of who doesn't work, situations, places, issues, patterns, everything from inside of us not serving, everything outside of us not serving.
00:27:04
Speaker
And if that wasn't enough, if the universe didn't get our attention like that, they also made this a nine year. You add two plus two plus five, 2025, that's a nine year. What is nine about? Completion of things, ending of things. You do see a lot of endings. You see marriages ending. You see people's jobs ending. You see people moving. You see everything that could have to do with an ending.
00:27:31
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happening. You see it out in the world too. So we are being a thousand percent supported. Let go, but do the work. Like you said, take a look, you know, you know, even if you don't know the how to get to the other side of something, you know,
00:27:50
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These relationships, um those situations, that money, that thing that I keep doing, that job thing that I keep doing, that blah, blah, blah, that way that I keep being angry, being anxious, being fearful, being what fill in the blank.
00:28:07
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It's no longer serving you. Now, I'll tell you, this is so important. We are not being asked. It's a little bit of a commandment because next year, 2026, is the year of the horse. 2026, first of all, that's a number one, beginnings.
00:28:31
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Starting. You can't start something if you don't have the capacity to begin it. You can't bring something new in your life if you have not let go of the old. So this is a gift we're being given. Let go.
00:28:43
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Trust the process. that you're gonna be given lots of new opportunities and joyful things and people and abundance and all of that in the one year, maybe earlier, because you'll be ready to start bringing it in. And the year of the horse, and I'm into animal spirit medicine, shamanically, the year of the horse is about freedom.
00:29:06
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It's about you know galloping. It's about adventure. I mean, it's gonna be a beautiful year potentially if we're letting go So shamanically, i look at all of this and I look at all of what's going on also galactically because i both worlds for me are one.
00:29:29
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yeah The cosmos and the shamanic, which is sort of as above, so below. you know It's very beautiful, but they are very interchangeable too. and i look at this like
00:29:44
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I hold so much hope and I know that's rare, but I really feel and believe that this needs to happen, what may appear to be very unstable conditions, that it needs to occur for us again to have the beginnings. We're shaking out all the stuff.
00:30:08
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seeing things about people and situations we didn't know were going on, the underbellies coming up to be healed and for new choices to be made. So I think we're living in radical times and I believe strongly that each of our souls was aware.
Children's Role in Future Transformations
00:30:26
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when we were given the choice. Oh, you wanna go down there wet? Well, if you wanna do that, that's gonna be quite a time. you know Ascension sounds grand, but you know there's gonna be a lot that goes on, a lot of thickness and density before you can rise above and change densities and dimensions and all of that become part of the galactic community. But we all said yes.
00:30:51
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So we have to remember to be the light we came here to be in our own way. Remember you're the light worker. Remember you had a mission. And especially during times, if you perceive them to be darkness, be the light. Best thing you can do. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:09
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Wow, you you laid that out pretty pretty articulately. Thank you so much. um Yeah, I was talking to Peter Maxwell Slattery, and he was he brought up the example of cymatics and the the sand on the plate and frequency and how...
00:31:31
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you know you can just have a pile of sand, but when the frequency hits it, you know you you almost get the sacred geometry, these amazing, beautiful patterns. But in between the pile of sand and that beautiful pattern, the sand is just you know it has to get there and it's pure chaos.
00:31:49
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At the end of it is hope. It's beautiful. But that's where we are right now. like This shifting is taking place. And I just thought it was a you know, a fitting example of, okay, yeah you know, it is perhaps rare, but I think that's why it's even more important to have these co-creations or these conversations where we share this information or this hope or this light with other people. yeah Yes, looking around you, it could seem a certain way, but do the work.
00:32:19
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You know, if there is perhaps freedom coming up quickly, you know, on the other side of this shortly. um So thank you for sharing that about the the year of the horse and freedom that that sounds like I'm looking forward to that.
00:32:33
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You know, it's so cool. I love that you use that and that your guests use this because um i don't know if you do you know who Paul Heineck is? I've heard the name. I'm not familiar too much with that. He's a son, a very, very famous man. He's, you know, and everybody says that, but Paul is quite famous in his own right. I'm sorry. J. Allen Hynek's son? yeah or Yes. Oh, nevermind. I do know who you're talking about.
00:32:59
Speaker
Exactly. Very good. And he's a friend of mine. um I've been to his house. I'm going to his house again Saturday night, in fact. And he has that that gizmo that you're talking about.
00:33:12
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And so. So I was ah envisioning while you said that, because it's amazing. I never seen one up close. Now I've seen a couple of them. But he determines, um it might be also Bluetooth. He does it on his phone. Anyway, it's a like it looks like it's next to a chair. I don't know how to describe it, because you wouldn't really want to put anything on it. But it's got wood, and it's got glass, and then all the sand is in it.
00:33:36
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And so I think he tells it what to do. You can do a labyrinth. You could do a lotus flower, all these things. And you're so right. You know, there's a vibration and a frequency from just sand, static sand that suddenly becomes something beautiful.
00:33:56
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And what's very interesting is it doesn't happen like that. It takes time. we go do something else and then it could be hours and hours and it's still working on it.
00:34:11
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and becoming that. And it is a great all illusion that you mentioned because that's exactly what we're in We're not going to go from just being what we were to suddenly, you know, ta-da, ascended and everything's great and we have harmony and peace. This is where we are shifting and becoming until we are this beautiful picture. What may be ours in that sand frequency device could be decades and decades for us.
00:34:49
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We are certainly building something I like to believe beautiful for our children and our children's children. And I know the children who are being born right now are very special.
00:35:04
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Yes. Please mention a little bit more about that. You know, it's such an exciting time, James, because I've known this for a long time.
00:35:17
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I well, let's just talk about the disability first and then we'll cover all the kids. But um i have known for a very, very long time. And what does that mean in human terms? For me, that is like probably 15 years.
00:35:35
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um Yeah, about 15 years. I've known that all the things they gave labels to like bipolar, autistic, ADD, ADHD, et cetera, that these are geniuses.
00:35:50
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These are, there's something brilliant in there just because they're different and process different and have different wiring.
00:36:02
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They are definitely not less than. They have their own genius. So I've been really well aware of that, the whole telepathy thing. Yeah. Autistic children and to boot with children in general right now,
00:36:19
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I watch these videos of, you know, for instance, there's ah this little boy and his mom posts videos of him on Instagram and he's talking about all his galactic
Generational Changes and Spiritual Leadership
00:36:29
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past lives. He came in with full memory and there's all these kids, they have higher gifts, higher knowing.
00:36:37
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There's something else going on. i mean, the, I would say like at least two generations before them, they were tapped into technology.
00:36:49
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They understood computers, phones, like scary, just completely innate abilities. Now it's really young generation. they're They've called them rainbow children. They've called them all sorts of things, but they they're the ones inheriting and they're coming in with the goods, the abilities. I believe they're psychic. I believe they're telepathic. I believe they're knowing. I believe they're going to be just beautiful to take over. It's absolutely true. um Probably maybe five or six years ago, I met a woman who have remembered vividly a past life, but just one.
00:37:30
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And then a few years after that, I met a child who remembered all of his past lives. And ah that blew me away. like And I had just gotten into QHHT and doing past life regressions and things like that.
00:37:45
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But I had only ever heard of one other person, you know, Matias DiStefano, that had made that conversation. I won't say claim. I mean, like, I believe it, but, um but then to meet someone who does, you know, remembers that and it's, these children are coming in. think Mary Rockwell calls them the letter children, but like, they're like the saving grace, right? Like that they're coming in to tip the scales and there's this, this brilliance to them that is absolutely wonderful.
00:38:15
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, these are important things to, to hold on to because, you know If your reality is and your inner world is what you put your attention on if you shift your attention to these incredibly hopeful, exciting things, then you know your reality will change, your inner world will change. So yes, this is one of many things that give me great hope.
00:38:47
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and just to to put it in maybe context, when you have a child, it's not... not you know, researching how to deceive you. it's just telling you about past lives and all these beautiful things and angelics and colors and the galaxy.
00:39:05
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It is utterly fascinating. and It's as a as a, you know, a therapist to even be in the room, like like I'm in awe to even to hear it. it's it's It's a beautiful thing and quite real.
00:39:19
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Yeah, I've often wondered why I was born when I was born. When I look at what's coming up, a lot of my friends, not all, but a lot of I have a lot of friends who are younger. i meet some unbelievable people. i did in the beginning through ceremony and then you know in later years through events where I speak at.
00:39:39
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And there are just amazing people on this planet right now. And I've often thought, why would that was an interesting choice? Why? Why? Why did my soul choose all of this? And then sometimes I think because I relate so much to them so ah so much to their openness, ah their lack of limitations, their rejection of a lot of the things we grew up in our parents and our parents' parents, that they're like, no, I'm not going to live my life that way. And I admire it.
00:40:13
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I really do. So the only thing I've been able to come up with, and of course, I got to wait till I'm on the other side to fully know, but i've the only thing I've come up with is You know, you needed to lead the way at this time. This is a big time.
00:40:30
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And like me and like all of us who are here to be leaders, healers, way showers, we need your voice. And you got another job after this one to get on. Yeah, don't worry.
00:40:44
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It's funny, as you were saying that, that's the thought that I was having was someone had to pave the way, you know, in...
00:40:56
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You could tell with your energy that you would, you know, embrace, you know, like you can, it's easy to look back and maybe from someone on the outside and be like, why, why would you not embrace that? Right? Like, listen, we need someone who is strong enough to do this. would you Would you do that? And like dare to dream the book next to you. i like, yeah, I'll do it.
00:41:17
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You know, i could I could totally see that. And I often ask myself that question too. Like, all right, you chose to come here at this time for a reason. And you wouldn't have come here if you didn't want to. So embrace it even when it's not looking great.
00:41:35
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Yeah, that's so funny. I i think sometimes also like, woo, this is great. Just think how much like ah issues and situations I'm like, check, check, check, check. I'll be so clean by the time I get to my next concurrent multidimensional life. It'll be like, let's just have fun. Yeah. I need a breather.
00:42:01
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I don't. Yeah. I kind of feel like it is going to get, i i took on some big stuff this life. I do feel like it's going to be. much nicer. And it's interesting that you do the QHHT.
Past Life Regressions and Personal Insights
00:42:13
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I um just worked with somebody and although she does that, I didn't want a full QHHT, but I did want to do a little hypnosis with her. ah It was so beautiful, James, the situation. I'm never fully sure, like, is someone going to be able to get me there? Like, what that's what is that going to be like?
00:42:35
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And It was beautiful because I was a dragon and I could still see exactly what I look like, but way more important than that was how it felt to be me.
00:42:51
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I was very much... um
00:42:56
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There was a lot of solitary in it, but with joy. Like I loved being alone. I loved flying. I loved, you know, everything I did in that hypnosis experience was incredibly joyous. When I felt the desire to connect, I allowed myself to find a safe place to land and there were other beings that don't look anything like us who I was able to connect with and, you know, get affection and love and connection. i had to be very careful because I was huge and my tail easily alone, not to mention the wings and and everything else, but easily took out things. I had a great love of blowing fire just to blow fire because I could, but my
00:43:45
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just joy of being exactly who I was, was so um so amazing. And I did feel that freedom.
00:43:57
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I felt enormous freedom. In fact, it was a great lesson for me and what I shared with you earlier about the stillness, because there was no place to be, nothing to do. It was in the moment, this sense of, hmm, I'd like to be with some people now. Hmm, I'd like to be in some water. Hmm, I'd like to be on a mountaintop. I'd like to fly. Whatever it was, i was able to go do it in that moment and it was beautiful. you know, as long as it was beautiful. And there are great lessons in it for me. And in I know i have always known that I've been with dragons in concurrent lifetimes and that I've had friends and very deep nurturing, protective relationships with dragons. But I never, never imagined that I had been a dragon.
00:44:51
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yeah That's so fascinating. we're Were you able to pinpoint like where that might have been or when that might have been? That's a big question.
00:45:04
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It is. It's a big question. We didn't go there and i could I wouldn't know the name, although perhaps if I had asked, something would have been given to me. I and i know it was not here.
00:45:15
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It didn't look anything like here. And there were a lot of elements and other beings when I did engage with them that were not in human form, humanoid form. They were in very different.
00:45:29
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Yeah. When I did my first past life regression, I was skeptical, you know, like what is, who knows? And that's probably why it I was successful with it because I wasn't expecting anything.
00:45:44
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But at one point I didn't know what I was. And um the therapist asked me and like, you have your name behind you, like the, the words that like a sign flashed in and gave me a name.
00:45:58
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And I was like, oh my gosh, I could not have come up with that. Wow. um That is so powerful. And did you look up the name?
00:46:10
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Oh, yeah, absolutely. It was ah it was um so I was getting images of the pyramids, but they looked ah different. The color they looked like fresher, newer, cleaner, like whiter And the name was Bedouin.
00:46:28
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So I looked up afterwards, I started Googling because in my head, I'm thinking Bedouin and pyramids like that doesn't make any sense at all. ah But when I Googled it, it was like different Bedouin tribes and there were Bedouin tribes that are in that area.
00:46:43
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like there's I can't remember how many different tribes or groups, but they they were there. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, that's crazy. This is interesting.
00:46:55
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That's very exciting when you can find that kind of proof to solidify that Oh yeah, no, that, that actually happened.
Galactic Origins and Deep Connections
00:47:03
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They were there. And did you know what timeframe you had been in?
00:47:09
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ah It's a good question. i I don't know. It was definitely like several hundred years ago. It was not recent.
00:47:20
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ah That's just, that was the impression I got, but. But it was it was a a hard life. And it was interesting because how it more or less related to this life was that it was a very difficult life, very violent in the caravan, that culture, you know, that was the caravans are very dangerous.
00:47:41
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And... ah identifying people who were in my current life that were in that life. That was interesting too. um And then in this life, be you know, after 9-11, I became a ah Peace Corps volunteer instead of going into the army or something like that and fighting. So it it was this... ah transformation of like being a warrior and being more violent into a more peaceful and benevolent nature, you know, becoming a therapist, you know, a helper, a healer, that type of thing.
00:48:15
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Wow. So you got the message. you got That's so beautiful that you're able to connect that. I love the fact first that your soul had that experience as a Bedouin ah and that next you were able to transcend that and said, well, I know how that turns out. I know what that feels like.
00:48:35
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I want a different, higher choice. So You're aligned with that now. And I also love that you were able to see that, like ah connect that with an actual lifetime and see it play out with some of the same people in your life now, then that's very powerful because I think it's more difficult if we see aspects of ourself in various lifetimes and we're like, oh, you know, i'm doing the same thing or not much has changed. Or I did that then too. i think,
00:49:07
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making different choices is really powerful for ourselves and, you know, the collective and all of that. Yeah. You alter through the path.
00:49:18
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um But you, in the beginning of this conversation, you mentioned that you came face to face with an aspect of you from, from elsewhere.
00:49:29
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i was curious what, what, where was that being from? or do you know? It's so interesting because for the longest time, and maybe still now, I thought, well, because she i was identified as Maya, M-A-Y-A.
00:49:49
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And so the the vision was like a pyramid in the jungle where she lived. Now, what's interesting is that the inside of that pyramid It didn't look like anything you probably, because I've been to pyramids here. I've been to the Mayan jungles. I've been to Tehuacan. I've been to, you know, many of these places. They don't look like what I saw there.
00:50:16
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And it was very futuristic, very minimalistic. Had technology, we don't have here. She was a technologist, right?
00:50:29
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that is not like here. And like I said, over seven feet tall and skinny in a way you wouldn't want to see a human, but it was beautiful on her. And then years later, ah i was an Adam Apollo retreat. We played music for the retreat and Adam was talking about these people. And when he started, you know, he's,
00:50:59
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the best. He's so phenomenal at graphics. he's He's a level that is, it's very impressive, the visuals he provides.
00:51:09
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And he really gives you a sense of the people the galactic people and their environment, their home and all of dress and all of this. And so he was showing these people and all of a sudden I thought, wow, they are so tall and skinny, like this aspect of me, this feminine aspect of me was.
00:51:31
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And I believe it was from a planet called Yacoubian. Also, um I've done a lot of shows with Debbie Solaris. She's a friend of mine. She's a galactic historian.
00:51:43
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And she's also a channel. She's pretty amazing. And she was saying, you know, Deb, this very well might have been a lifetime of yours that was Pleiadian.
00:51:56
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Because in the Pleiades, they've got a planet that is M-A-I-A. And a lot of the indigenous and the shamans come from there. So I do not have confirmation about who she is, all of that.
00:52:13
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i mean, like where she was from, timelines, anything like that.
Unique Blueprints and Creative Expression
00:52:21
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And it's so interesting. I don't have a lot of curiosity about it. Yeah, really don't. I have a lot of peace around this and kind of like you with your past life for me also to see that there are aspects of me that have existed at such tremendously high levels.
00:52:43
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ah She really was very impressive. Didn't have to say much. Incredibly poised. I mean, she was regal. And i saw her.
00:52:56
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i don't I don't even know in this reality how to describe this creation ability she had.
00:53:09
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But I know I was very taken with it. yeah And I guess what's interesting is that I have had people throughout my life friends who have said, my God, how you manifest, how do you do that? How do you, you know, I'm still not her.
00:53:25
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She was amazing, but I have something in me that is a little akin to that.
00:53:32
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Yeah. was curious if I was going to guess, I was, I was going to guess Lyron, but. You know, she's not Lyron. She's not Lyron, but ah ah of course, like, look at me.
00:53:49
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And by the way, my hair is very tame right now. i put a lot of nurturing stuff in it, although the curls are mine, but it is typically like a mane.
00:54:00
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i have i just came back from this photo shoot and the camera director was like, can you like do this to your hair? said, no, buddy. this is it. It's like, this is real.
00:54:13
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But yes, I have profound connections to Lyra. I have seen the lion beings. The lion beings are always with me, protecting me. They are my family. Often when, pardon me, I've had people who are trans channels and You see them do all, they can do, I have a friend who does this on stage, he's very well known and I've never seen him do a Liren, never. He's done all these other beings. And the moment I went up to ask him something, I mean, it's incredible to see a trans channel change like that.
00:54:49
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Their physicality, their voice, their cadence, their energy, ah that's wild. that a human is that open to allow all that to happen. And it is real. And my entire Liren family came to to talk to me about some changes that are coming.
00:55:09
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And so oh nice. Yeah. They're always here. And, and I really feel them. I really love them. And I'm very honored to come from the lion beings.
00:55:23
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I think they're a cool group of, courageous family-oriented fierce leaders yeah well have you you may know of Jacqueline Smith um she does these starseed origin readings and so allegedly that's where I come from in one aspect as well so Oh, my Liren brother, that is so beautiful. Yeah, that's, I mean, there's a lot to be ah proud of, but also for people who don't know Lirens, the lion beings, which it's not just, you know, it's also the felines. I mean, there were a lot of, just like on earth, there's a lot of different looking species also on that planet. There's a lot of different species of derivative of the cat, let's say.
00:56:19
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and We are, Lirenz, the original human template. So humans were born from the Lirenz.
00:56:33
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Now, original template, many other things happen along the way to concoct who we become today. But yes, so in one shape or form, everybody's got this in them.
00:56:47
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And we owe them a debt of gratitude for being the first. And at the same time, then people will have different variations of star seed. And by the way, I'll mention this. If people are like, well, what am I? I a Tyrion? Am I Orion? Am I a praying mantis? Am I an octopus being? Am I a Pleiadian? Am I a Syrian? I mean, we could go on and on. An avian, all of it.
00:57:15
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i I did a ah big video and a report to gift people with star seed information so you can find out who, what, where you are and better understand all this amazing information. Go to my website and get the gift for free if you'd like to know your ancestral galactic lineage. And it's a Debbie Dashinger dot com slash star seed.
00:57:39
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Spell my name right. D-E-B-B-I, no E-D-A-C-H-I-N-G-E-R. So it's D-E-B-B-I-D-A-C-H-I-N-G-E-R.com slash starseed.
00:57:51
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And have fun figuring out where you're from. It's got everything in it. Yeah, you have... a number of wonderful resources on your web. Do you have more than one website or is that the main one that I'll to? No, I'm going to have another website built. I have to, like I feel it in my bones. So I'm going to do the Galactic Shaman website. And I'm really excited for that because that's becoming a huge part of my life. I'm being asked to be interviewed on documentaries, on stage. I'm speaking on stages around the world for years. I'm continuing to do it. I'm being interviewed on wonderful podcasts like yours. And this appears to be with the awakening of the world, the the call, right? The message for this conversation. And so I will have one of those built in the next six months. But right now it's debbiedashinger.com. And the other thing I have on there is because my life... was so ensconced in media and in teaching people. If you want to get your message out there, here's how to do your book, hey here's how to create a bestseller, here's how to get interviewed. So they can get that at debby-inger.com slash gift.
00:59:01
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Yes. And then you'll get a couple of videos and and templates and things. Even the template is like, how do you put together your message? Because people don't realize that if you go to a networking meeting or you're interviewed or many situations where you have one sentence to say, this is who I am, this is what I do, and have impact. So people lean in and want to know more. So you can get that at debbie-hinger.com slash gift.
00:59:32
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It's wonderful. I've taken one of your courses. There's there's more to more work to be done with you to get my message out. But it's it's wonderful. and you And you do a lot of wonderful work with a lot of incredible creator beings in this time and space.
00:59:51
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Well, thank you. Thank you. I hope we do more work together, too, because you are... You know, my, i i hate calling you a student because you're my colleague, but you're my avatar, right? You're very on the path and very open and clearly have something wonderful that's only yours. It's only your blueprint that you have to offer.
01:00:14
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And I tell people that. You know, people like, oh, why should I write a book? I mean, for instance, there's a million books on money. Yeah, but nobody's going to present that information like you will. Nobody's had the journey you've had.
01:00:28
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Nobody knows the ahas and takeaways you've received on your journey. Nobody knows what's created your success in whatever realm it is.
01:00:39
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And also, we all talk so differently. We express ourselves so differently. Some people talk really fast. Some people talk more reflectively. Some people, you know, in between. Some people are funny. Some people are, you know, have these great allegories all across the board or a mixture. And that's going to come out in your book or whatever it is you're creating. So you've got to trust your blueprint has a stamp, has a way of getting out there that people who resonate with only you need to hear and see and experience. So I'm excited for you, James, in getting your stuff out there.
01:01:16
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Well, it is likewise, and I appreciate the kind words and the help.
Heart Consciousness Practice
01:01:20
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um Debbie, before we close, for someone listening right now, maybe they're doing chores or commuting or or taking a walk and they feel disconnected or overwhelmed with life right now, just going through the motions.
01:01:35
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What is a small, simple practice that they could do in the next hour or so to reconnect with their heart consciousness? I felt that strongly.
01:01:48
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a Take a deep breath. and put your hand on your heart. You know you can walk and nobody will know, boy you should know the things I do while I walk my dogs that are growth manufacturing and nobody knows what's happening, but I'm doing all sorts of energy work. So, you know put your hand on your heart and take a deep breath. And the first thing is, and this is so important, I'm not alone.
01:02:19
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There are beings that their purpose is to watch after me. Maybe I don't see them, but they're there on the angelic realm and the galactic realm. My galactic family is everywhere.
01:02:34
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My lineage, my ancestors love me and thank me. I have a football field cheering me on, seeing me.
01:02:46
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And so excited about who I become. So just rest in that. And if you have a moment to go in the grass, to go in a park, your backyard, front yard, take your shoes off, put your feet on the grass.
01:03:04
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I'm not talking about earthing and all that, although it's a part of what happens, but I am saying to reconnect with your original roots and where are you going to go back to? Mother Earth is the most powerful entity.
01:03:19
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She is complete sentience. She has already ascended way before us. And just put your feet there, close your eyes and breathe. Let roots come out from your feet and go deep into the rocks all the way into the core of the center. And when you can breathe her in and breathe her out.
01:03:40
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I have had many days where I've done this in my backyard and I've spoken to her. Not out loud, although that's fine too, but just in my head, in my heart, I've shared everything with her about what's going on. Sometimes I'll ask her things for feedback or how should I handle this? And I have gained tremendous wisdom and a beautiful unexpected relationship with her.
01:04:05
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That's profound and I carry with me always. One of great respect and reverence and love, care. and reciprocity. And so those two things, just remember you're not alone because the original wound for all of us is separation from one another, from source energy, from our unseen family that is here to take care of us, and from other human beings from our tribe.
01:04:35
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So reconnect with all that is. Reconnect with the unseen that love you. And if you have another moment, find some grass, stand on the earth with your bare feet and just talk to the great mother Pachamama and let her give you love and wisdom and fill yourself up.
01:05:00
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That was very beautiful. From the one and only Debbie Dashinger, thank you so much for coming on and sharing that with us today.
Podcast Conclusion and Listener Invitation
01:05:09
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The one and only James O'Neill. It's been an honor and a pleasure to connect with you, my friend.
01:05:15
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Thank you.
01:05:19
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01:05:33
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01:05:48
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