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Psychotherapists Discuss UFO Contact: Inside the Work of Barbara Lamb
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What happens when psychotherapy meets the “high strangeness” of UFO contact?
In this episode, James O’Neill, LCPC, speaks with Barbara Lamb, a pioneering psychotherapist and regression therapist with over four decades of experience working with individuals who report anomalous contact experiences.
Moving beyond the question of “Is it real?”, this conversation focuses on the therapeutic work of integration—how extraordinary experiences are remembered, processed, and woven into a healthy human psyche. Topics include regression therapy, memory and the subconscious, healing experiences, reported hybrid phenomena, and the ethical responsibilities of clinicians working at the edges of human experience.
This is a thoughtful, grounded dialogue for clinicians, experiencers, and curious listeners interested in how psychotherapy meets the unknown.
Learn more about Barbara Lamb’s work:
https://barbaralambregression.com/
About the host:
James O’Neill, LCPC, is a psychotherapist and mindfulness teacher at Journey Mindfulness.
https://www.journeymindfulness.com/
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Transcript
Introduction to the Journey Mindfulness Podcast
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Welcome to the Journey Mindfulness Podcast, where the inner world meets the infinite. I'm James O'Neill, and together we explore consciousness, the soul, mindfulness, and the mysteries beyond our world, and most importantly, how to integrate all of it into the life you're living right now.
Meet Barbara Lamb: Regression Therapist and Expert on Extraterrestrial Encounters
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Today on the Journey Mindfulness Podcast, I'm joined by Barbara Lamb. Barbara is a world-renowned regression therapist, author, and lecturer who has conducted over 5,000 sessions since 1991, helping people explore extraterrestrial encounters, past lives, and sole purpose.
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She is a Multiple Lifetime Achievement Award recipient for her work in experience or support in ufology. Her work has been featured on Ancient and Aliens, and she has been interviewed many times on Coast to Coast AM and Beyond Belief.
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Barbara, I'm so grateful to have you here. Your work has touched so many lives, ah and I don't get to talk to licensed therapists about these topics very often, so it's wonderful to have you here. Thank you for being here.
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You're very welcome. Very pleased to be here. I'm very pleased that you have interest in this particular subject. Well, at a certain point you can't ignore it, right?
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Right. Although plenty of people still choose to ignore it. Oh, i don't like I don't want to pay attention to that or I don't believe in that.
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People have have told me, not the people who come to me, but um other people just out there in life very often will say, oh, yeah, i i don't I don't pay attention to that. I don't i don't believe in that.
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But whether they believe in it or not, it's happening that millions of people all over the world are having intelligence with these extraterrestrial beings.
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And in so many cases, they have a little tiny bit of awareness of it. like a moment or a
How Does Regression Therapy Uncover Hidden Memories?
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minute maybe at the most, that they're actually with these beings.
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But in many, many cases, these visits and experiences happen when the person isn't asleep or is in some you know very relaxed state, maybe, and sort of dozes off. but They're not even aware that the experience is happening.
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And yet, maybe many years later, they'll say, geez, you know, wonder what that was that time when I was just sitting watching television on my sofa and suddenly the screen went all kind of blitzy and frantic and everything seemed different and there was an and unusual light in the room.
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and and and It was just really weird. and and you know Something like that might have happened. That's pretty typical. and and Then maybe decades later,
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in their life. um they'll like you know i keep thinking of about that time that I was on the show for watching TV, etc. and i wonder if anything happened you know after that unusual light came in the room.
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So in a regression, although we have the privilege of going back to that event that the person is wondering about.
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And I suggest that ah in the relaxation part, getting the person into the state of hypnosis, I suggest that they're going back to relive whatever occurred on that occasion that they've been wondering about.
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um Whether anything happened or not, beyond that, we don't know at at that point. like with I think it's very helpful for ah the person to have this sense in the hypnosis of reliving the experience.
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from beginning on, using that example, either reclining or sitting back on the sofa and watching television.
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and Then something changed
Experiencing 'Missing Time' and Subtle Abductions
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and the screen became all kind of fuzzy and unusual. signals on it, and then they were aware of the light in the room.
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So we begin at the very beginning of the experience from what the person can consciously remember. But in the state of hypnosis, um it's wonderful because from that very first moment of awareness,
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We just keep going. And even though the person has been put into a state of non-consciousness, The subconscious part of the mind, in the meantime, is it recording everything, every single moment of experience that a person has. And so it's this subconscious part of the mind that can bring up that material to be remembered and having the sense of reliving it in the regression.
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So the person goes moment by moment by moment through the regression, right through every moment that happened until being returned again.
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And so much opens up that way for people. Now, other people could say, oh well, maybe that was their imagination what came up.
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So I always check with people after the regression of how real or not did that seem to you, what you had just experienced in the regression.
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And invariably, they say, Oh, yeah, that was real. i hadn't known that before, but but reliving it again, I see that that was real. that I could not imagine things like that.
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That just would not be in my escape of of ah my frame of abilities. oh But yeah, that was real. So that's, I think, as close as we can get to the truth.
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of what happened to these things. um Yeah. You know, that that that people remember just the first few moments of, if if at all. And then, of course, there are many times that people are having the missing time experience.
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And so they're doing something like riding their bicycle or taking a hike or driving a car or riding in a car. And on And then in the situation with the car, they at least consciously are aware that something's happening to the car.
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It seems like it's sort of running out of steam. And usually the driver will pull off the road, which is a good thing. And um and then they may have consciousness for a few more moments to see that there's a big light that's come down um from the sky front of them and beings coming toward the car.
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Sometimes they'll remember that much. But sometimes it's happening with many people who've come to me. They've been on a road trip. And seemed like everything was perfectly normal.
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And when they got to their destination, they realized that it was two or three or even four hours later than it should have been.
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So they they know they had missing time, but they had no a sense of the car failing or a light coming toward them or anything like that. hello So I did one recently, and with that, a husband and wife were driving along, going to the FDR Museum in New York State.
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and And they set out in the morning, and they checked their watches and figured Oh yeah, we'll be there you know in ah in about an hour. and all But really, they they got there that day, but it was four hours later.
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and they But they couldn't remember anything peculiar in the least bit. And they went over and over and over it and yeah again. And the one thing that they could remember from that drive that kind of stood out was that in front of them was a white car with a trunk that was partly open. They were carrying something large in the trunk and it had it kind strapped down so the trunk door wouldn't just fly up.
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And they that's the only thing that they remember. in that one-hour drive. It was just a little bit out of the ordinary, not very much. and so in the regression, it turned out that they actually swallowed that white car with the trunk strapped down.
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As it went off the highway they were on, and went a couple more streets and into a neighborhood and parked in front of a series of houses, just regular nice houses, like suburban houses, separate yards and everything.
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and And then it happened that they were taken by beings into what looked like a house, which must have actually been UFO.
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But they made it look like a house in the neighborhood and ah had the experiences that they both had. and they were returned to him too the house and to the car.
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and ah the the white car that had been handled was gone, but they they kind of remembered how they found their way into that particular neighborhood and were able to get back on the highway but without any conscious awareness of that whole experience of even getting off the highway.
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ah And they got got back and still didn't remember. and um And then they ended up at the museum just before closing time. And that's why they were really startled that they had missed about four hours there.
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yeah
Positive Outcomes from Extraterrestrial Encounters
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So sometimes it's done very, very subtly by the beings, the way that if they take somebody. And of course, as you probably know, it's very, very typical that when one person is taken from bed or from anywhere,
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ah if there's anybody else present, those people are made to be not aware, non-conscious. In fact, in the the bed situation, if the sleeping partner is right there, ah that person seems to be deeply, deeply asleep, unable to be awakened.
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including the fact that the person who's being taken from the event is not able to move or call out to the other person. So, you see, these beings have, well, I guess we could call it stealth, yeah it still the stealth methods of approaching the people they're taking and making anybody else completely unaware.
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So nobody is harmed. ah The sleeping partner or somebody else sleeping in the room, for instance, or playmates with but yeah the person that is a child, oh they're not harmed in any way. They're just made to be not aware.
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Yeah. Yeah. One of the the things that um I was made aware of by Mary Rodwell was that I want to say like 86% these experiences are what you might call positive or not, they're not negative.
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Is that line up with your experience? Absolutely. Yes. In fact, it's probably even a higher percentage. It's a very, very rare in my experience with people that that they are ah treated horribly or, you know, they're really, really scared.
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well but whether they i mean Because once they're in the experience, they're in sort of an altered state of consciousness. and don't have usually the usual fear triggers, fear reactions that most of us would have if we saw something really different, like found ourselves in around with bright white light and unusual beings that know other people.
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you know I mean, that would be frightening, I think, to most people because it's unknown and and we don't know what to expect from them. So that and has a lot to do with people's fear. And I think it's very customary or usual for experiencer of this type to have fear.
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But um even when people are being examined on a medical table, um in one of these experiences, and they're examined by beings who are definitely not human beings.
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and on and And I have the person being impressed to describe each one of those beings that they see around the table.
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And usually it's quite a variety of beings, too. You might have some taller grays, taller beings of different types, maybe blue skinned even.
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You might have the little gray, more robotic types. You might have a reptilian type there. So I always, when the person in the regression ah finds himself or herself,
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lying it with what feels like some of a hard medical table. And there are all these beings around. I always have them describe each being as much as possible, including what that being might be wearing, ah because they wear clothing that's different than ours.
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And as they're doing that in the regression, they're paying attention to those details. of the beings around them, and to the room, and to the lighting, and the size of the room it seems to be, and if there's anybody else in there, like any other people.
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Very often there are people on other tables, like they are abducted people. well And as they're describing all of this, Their fear level seems to go down greatly because they're sort of taking hold of the situation, let's say. Settling in.
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buddhising these details. and and And while they're doing that, they're not feeling like a victim, which is helpful, of course. And then ah when the beings are actually doing something to them, ah very often it starts out feeling like Well, it feels like somebody's doing something to my head.
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And I'll say, well, pay attention to that. You see how much you can determine from that. And I'll say, well, there's definitely... one No, actually, there were two beings there by my head at that side of the table, and and they're they're touching my scalp. They're feeling things like they're feeling with fingertips, or, oh, feels like they're opening up my head, they're apparently examining my brain.
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And I'll say, well, what does that feel like? And they say, well, it doesn't hurt. It should hurt, it doesn't. but But it really feels like my scalp is open and they're doing something there with my brain.
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And then in the meantime, there may be other beings, you know, standing around other parts of their body doing different things. and The person only goes by sensation and what little they can see that's being done.
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ah but and As they describe it, little detail by detail, it seems to be less frightening. And they realize that, well, they seem to be perfectly all right, even though these very weird things are happening that normally ah we would think would be terrible.
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ah But the beings always have healing methods right there at the ready. that No matter what they're doing, if there's any closing up of the scalp that needs to be done or any other part of the body, they do it immediately and they seem to do it perfectly.
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mean, they really have learned at what they're doing. I understand. They're experts. So they they don't really harm the person, even though at the moment it might seem like oh my goodness, they're ruining it. They're doing something. They're taking you something out of my lower abdomen or they're going up through my vagina or or whatever.
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of and And yet they have not been harmed. When they come back home
Hybrids: Their Creation and Purpose on Earth
00:19:24
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again, very often they will have bruise. or a little um series of pinprick looking marks or a scoop shape mark or a triangular shaped bruise or mark of some sort.
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In other words, things on their body that they have maybe wondered about for decades as well. of And that showed that something happened and they just don't know what it was, but it was on that weird night when they saw lights coming in the room or or or whatever.
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And on so a lot of the pieces can come together for the person. in the regression. Yeah. Little details that they've been wondering about in some cases for many, many years.
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How do they, in your experience, integrate that, you know, therapeutically or cathartically? Like how do they, how have you found them going through that experience and and what happens afterwards?
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Good question. Well, first of all, I think everybody who comes for this type of progression has expressed immediately afterwards when they come back to regular consciousness, overhead i'll express a great appreciation.
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Like, thank you so much. Wow, that really... really makes sense. Now I really understand what happened. That really helps to know.
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other words, they're better off for having found out, no matter how weird the procedures were.
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from their point of view that happened. They are very appreciative of knowing about it. And in many cases, just knowing that, oh, well, it wasn't as bad as they had feared. They had feared that maybe they they were ruined in some way, and they find out that they weren't ruined.
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In fact, in many, many cases, people have been improved by being healed of many different conditions by the beings.
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And I think those are some of the most interesting to me. you know How do they get healed? Well, it's beings standing around the table and ah the beings have various forms of light that they use for the healing.
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And in while, it's that they will send energy from their hands, such as some of our healers and Reiki practitioners do here on Earth.
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ah But more likely, of the healings happen. oh It was use of light, oh to pure white light, or sometimes even colored light, but mostly white light.
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and ah so They will have an apparatus, which kind of looks like an oversized flashlight from our point of view, and it's emitting light and aimed at the part of the body.
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that they're healing. Or ah sometimes oh it's more like just a big flooding of light from above. yeah And usually they the people experiencing this say that, oh, that feels It feels warm and good.
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Thank you. yeah oh um Or sometimes they're completely encased life. Like it completely surrounds them and under their body and under the table that they're lying on.
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And, um, A couple of people have described it seem like a or rolling pin made of light that rolls up from ah like maybe from their feet rolling up to their legs and their torso, neck, head, and even above the head.
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and and And the healing is happening from that. so There are a number of different ways, but i always seeming to involve light or a heat, like heat from the hands, if not light.
00:24:15
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Yeah. i am I was ah injured for much of the past year and in a lot of pain. And one of the things that I did was um Jacqueline Smith, whom you wrote about in Meet the Hybrids, i went to one of her healing classes. And so she had brought but a mantis healing technique using light in orbs to to heal.
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And so I was very, very grateful you know for her help with that. I found it very helpful. But the healing aspect that you talk about is one of the most fascinating things that I'm interested It's not the scary stuff is just this these health ah ah surgery things that they improve the body and and abilities and things like that. It's it's quite fascinating.
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Oh, yes so did Jacqueline herself use the the light to heal you? Yeah, she was teaching how to use the light to focus it on the injured part of my body. So like in that case, it was my knee.
00:25:31
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ah But it was a technique that she learned from her lessons out there. Right. Well, she has had, well, a lifelong of so many contacts with quite a variety of beings and has benefited greatly from them and has welcomed every time they had visited you know that she has She has abilities and and maybe you could get a share just about what a hybrid hybrid is in your experience and in maybe some other aspects of people like her that, you know, whether it's telepathy or other things too.
00:26:16
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Oh, absolutely. There are a lot of commonalities between them. So, Miguel Mangansa and I, in 2015, wrote the book Meet the Hybrids, and Jacqueline sch Smith was one of those hybrids.
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I had already known her to a minor extent before that, ah but she came together as one of the hybrids. And the the seven others, of we interviewed at great length, each one ah independently of each other. They didn't hear each other's interviews. They were not able to influence each other.
00:26:56
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And some of them were here in the United States, and some of those hybrids, ah two of them were actually in England, a man and ah and a woman. But they all had a very, very similar characteristics and similar types of experiences, too.
00:27:17
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So, anyway, how did they get created? That's a very interesting subject in itself. ah What happened happens is that A human woman is visited by the beings, and eggs are taken from her ovaries.
00:27:37
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And a man, if she's married, it would probably be her husband. If she's not with a man, would be taken from some other man of interest to the beings.
00:27:49
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And sperm would be taken from you So, in in both cases, the the woman and the man are usually not aware of anything. It just happens at night when they're asleep, and they're made to be very soundly asleep by these beings of sort of out-of-conscious awareness.
00:28:12
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Anyway, the eggs from the woman and the sperm from the man are taken aboard the ship and they mix them together. in other words, conception happens.
00:28:24
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And then they add to that mixture their extraterrestrial genetics. And in the cases of the hybrids who we have written about, ah it was not just one type of extraterrestrial.
00:28:40
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genetics that were added, but maybe two or three or four or five or in one case, six different types of extraterrestrial beings, different species, added their genetics to this little embryo.
00:28:57
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And then the embryo is placed in the woman. Again, she's not aware of it, but she soon became begins to be aware that Well, she feels pregnant.
00:29:13
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and ah And she'll go to the doctor and have that pregnancy confirmed and ultrasound and everything they do. And she'll just take that for the full term. If it's going to be a hybrid, who will live on Earth is another type that I'll described in a few moments.
00:29:34
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ah But she'll just take now that little embryo into a fetus you know ah for the full nine months and give birth to it the way that we do. So that baby is a hybridized baby.
00:29:50
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and um is going to be living the full life on Earth. So those baby those hybrid babies at a very, very early age, even, oh let's say, age two or so,
00:30:08
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they already show that they have healing abilities, abilities to heal others. And for a young child like that, it's very typical though for many of these hybrids, that if they've along the way seen um a wounded animal or a wounded bird or something, or a wounded person, they'll just go right into sharing energy as if doing Reiki healing.
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And the healing is very essential. the The beings receiving the healing heal up in a day or two and i go about their life, just free and recover.
00:30:56
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So those families will notice things like this. And the their children, ah even at a very young age, will notice it. you know, they do a lot of things and they know a lot of things that the rest of their family doesn't do and doesn't know.
00:31:14
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and then when they get into even preschool, ah they notice that they operate, they look the same, you know, as every other human child.
00:31:25
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They don't look extraterrestrial at all, but that they know things that the other kids don't know. and that they can kind of see into other there children's bodies and know that they have a stomach ache or they have a pain over this part of their abdomen or whatever, where they have a headache. or um i mean, they they have that kind of sight.
00:31:53
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you know and Yeah, that it just blows my mind that people have that ability. I know, me too, because I don't have it. well um and and you know They'll see friends of their parents and they'll say, you know, he has a problem with his kidneys.
00:32:14
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and the parents will use it. What? What are you talking about? How do you know that? Well, I just know. I just have a way. no you know So they may not at that very early age realize, well, they don't usually i realize that at early age that they are hybrid.
00:32:34
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they have some extraterrestrial genetics in them, but they do know that they have a whole range of psychic abilities that the other people around them usually don't have.
00:32:45
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and yeah And these perceptions and knowings, and sometimes they get messages. They just hear a message in their head, and it's from the beings who gave them the genetics.
00:32:59
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And they will have... a Lots of visits, too, from the extraterrestrial beings. So in the case of a young child, those visits will usually happen in the middle of the night when the parents and other family members, and this one, himself and so they won't know, um although hybrid child will know.
00:33:28
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and the And all of the hybrids, including Jacqueline, have said that, oh they are happy when those beings from space come.
00:33:40
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And they all have said they feel like the extraterrestrial beings whom they know and whose genetics they have. i r their true family, more than the family they were born to and are growing up in.
00:33:59
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So occurs parents don't like to hear that. You know, we human parents. And so the parents were using... No, you're you're mistaken about that. We watched you being born. you You ours.
00:34:15
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You were born to us. And they'll say, well, Maybe be so, but you're not my real parents. They were out there in space and they come and visit me sometimes.
00:34:28
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So it's very different life for hybrid child and ellen ah hybrid growing up. By the time they get into their 20s, they usually have had it concerned by the beings um that they, yes, they're one of theirs. there're No wonder they feel like, you know, we're your parents because in a sense we are.
00:35:00
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nature lee We are. We haven't raised you, but but yes, we are very very dearly related. And that explains some of the feelings of love that that the hybrids had had for them. Yeah, they definitely share that. And the total lack of fear.
00:35:20
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So they love visiting the spaceships and really appreciate anything that they're introduced to there, that they're allowed to do on a spaceship.
00:35:34
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For many of them, it's just a great adventure, more exciting, more interesting than anything they get to do on the Earth.
00:35:43
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And the whole point on it, of these hybrids and being ah gestated and and born on earth and living a whole lifetime on earth.
00:35:56
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The whole point of that is to help humanity like Jacqueline Smith, is helping in many ways, doing courses and classes and webinars and lectures and oh writing. She's written at least two books that I know of, maybe even three by now.
00:36:20
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And all she she also is one of the hybrids who has great skills in animal communications.
00:36:31
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And she is very psychically aware of animals where wherever they are. And so many times she has been brought in as a consultant to use her abilities to find lost animals.
00:36:52
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And that's wonderful. And then also she, as with the other hybrids, they can communicate telepathically with any other people who can do that. Most of us have the ability, but we've never developed it.
00:37:07
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So we assume we don't have the ability for telepathy. ah But she does communicate with other people, like with the other hybrids.
00:37:18
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Some of them communicate a lot. just simply telepathically. And anybody else... She is very gifted. she She's skilled. I've worked with her. I don't mind saying that. She's...
00:37:32
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She's good. She knows what she's doing. She's very good and and just very delightful. a wonderful human who has these extraordinary abilities.
00:37:45
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And she has the ability to ah not only locate lost animals, but to communicate with them telepathically. with many, many, many different species of animals.
00:37:59
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And another one of our hybrids in Meet the Hybrids, Giudule, Pita, she communicates with animals very frequently.
00:38:12
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including lots of reptiles. so and And she's very friendly with snakes and can communicate with them. So I have the picture ro ver all day ah of up a very venomous snake.
00:38:30
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And ah she's not the least bit afraid because she's communicated with it and complimented it. I think you're really beautiful. I love the way you move. I love the way you live. And ah may I pick you up? And and she...
00:38:47
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hears, yes, that's all right, but from the snake, and will carry them around and wrap them around herself, and of even you know very poisonous snakes.
00:38:59
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And when never, ever has been the least bit hard, because she's in a very peaceful, reassuring communication with them. Yeah, I mean, that's incredible.
00:39:11
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what with yeah that that That aura, that energy though, that that communication with animals and being like, that interconnectedness really comes out in in these people.
00:39:25
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Yes, yes, it certainly does. So ah the point of having the hybrid program from the point of view of the beings who contribute to this is that
Global Existence and Abilities of Hybrids
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the hybrid will be able to live a life here as a human, fully passing as human, and certainly looking, acting human, but with all these extra abilities.
00:39:53
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And if the hybrid will do the work of helping humanity that the beings would like to do, but they cannot come here and live here.
00:40:05
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They would not survive here, nor would we accept them. yeah So they create these hybrids all that so that the hybrids could do the work because of the ET genetics.
00:40:19
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They could do the work that the ETs would really like to have done here. So they're here or two well create inspiration in people, raise their consciousness, increase their spirituality, and increase their helpfulness and concerns for the rest of humanity.
00:40:42
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so they very often inspire people to get into work that will be really helpful here on Earth. So, yeah I think for and we're very blessed to have hybrids here. and I assume that there are probably hybrids in most places in the world, you know living as one of those people, like a South American hybrid would be living ah you know, speaking Spanish and oh having these the skin, the complexion and so forth of a South American person.
00:41:23
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The same with an Asian person. We have the Asian characteristics and yet the extraterrestrial genetics in them too. So I think these helpers are really all over the world.
00:41:38
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But really, if you hear stories, you hear stories, too. And I know you've written and spoken about this, but just.
00:41:49
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You said self before, but cloaking or shape shifting like there is. ah and i think her name is Charmaine, maybe, but in your book, um William Charmaine, the reptilian shapeshifter, Charmaine. yeah Yes.
00:42:05
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Well, definite that's a remarkable thing in itself. I never heard of that until, oh I don't know, maybe 20 years ago. but um Yeah, Charmaine has um a few different types of the extraterrestrial genetic in her, including reptilian.
00:42:26
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And of growing up until her early 20s, she always liked anything that she would see, pictures or films or or even in person of any kind of reptile.
00:42:44
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And oh she she just felt somehow she was related to them. It didn't make sense, logically. um And her parents didn't understand that.
00:42:57
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ah but But she just said, yeah, the snakes and toads and frogs and alligators and crocodiles and all kinds of that but she just really liked tremendously.
00:43:16
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like Like other children might particularly like dogs or bears or something like that. but but She reptiles.
00:43:27
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And then when she was in her early twenties a and sort of living wish of really liking reptiles a whole lot. and I think nobody else she knew really particularly liked reptiles.
00:43:42
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well But in her early 20s, she had a visit from some of the beings who had added their genetics. and i'll One of them that sort of stood out to her was a reptilian extraterrestrial being.
00:44:00
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and they And she said, oh oh yeah, i I really, really like you. have really a great interest in you. And he said, well, because you have reptilian DNA in you, among the other types, ah would you like to experience your reptilian form?
00:44:23
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And she said, yes, I would. i don't know if I would say yes to that, but yeah but she did it pe you did. God bless her.
00:44:33
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And ah and they they helped her to morph into her full reptilian form. And she was so pleased.
00:44:47
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Oh, this is magnificent. I feel so strong, so able. ill I feel magnificent being a reptilian.
00:45:00
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And I don't think that experience lasted terribly long. it wasn't days or anything like that, maybe a few hours. And then after that,
00:45:11
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ah Later in her life, there were occasions when occasionally she would morph into that. Somehow the U.S. government or some department of the government of became aware of her and how she could morph into the reptilian form.
00:45:31
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and They abducted her and took her to an underground facility. and all i I think, I may not be remembering this clearly, but um I think they gave her an injection of something that helped her morph into her reptilian form so they could study her.
00:45:58
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And there she was in her reptilian form. oh in a room and nothing nothing else in it. um And then she noticed up on the wall, it looked like sort of a dark window, but she recognized because of her psychic ability, she realized it was a one of those two-way mirrors and there were three human beings sitting on the other side of that window, observing her as she was. So it was definitely not a nice experience.
00:46:33
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And of she did escape from that room and are they apparently chased her down the hallway. And by the time she got to where there was an exit to come up to the the land, she was morphing back into her human form.
00:46:52
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and was able to get out of there and find your way home again. But i'll yeah, there definitely interest. So yeah that was one of the less pleasant experiences of morphing because of the humans, not because of the reptilians.
00:47:10
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Yeah. But there's this um theme of almost like this big science experiment there.
00:47:19
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helping us here with the hybrids, go further in consciousness and humanity. And then also like our government is trying to study and see what's going on and right perhaps know more than we know.
00:47:32
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Well, I mean, there's a sort of different levels of of things. Yeah. And it does seem to be different levels of like the surface level stuff and then the other things that exist beyond that.
00:47:45
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Well, two, two, Other of the hybrids in our study oh had been known to morph completely into their reptilian form, too, even though they they have the other species of genetics in them.
00:48:04
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Right. So ok well it's it's definitely happened and it's been witnessed. In fact, there are two people whom I've met personally in life.
00:48:15
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And on each occasion, i was talking to each one. These are totally separate people, occasions, even in different countries, these two incidents happen.
00:48:26
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while I was talking to the person, just a regular, normal human conversation, the hybrid person oh looking perfectly human.
00:48:40
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oh in the In the first case, I did not know that that woman was a hybrid, and I still have not had confirmation of that.
00:48:52
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But I think that she is, because as we were talking and having a regular, relaxed, nice conversation, plenty of light for us to see each other in,
00:49:05
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oh you're standing talking, that I noticed after a few minutes that her eyes were changing from the round pupils and round irises to vertical slits.
00:49:20
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and And as i watched her eyes change, her whole demeanor changed. She went from very relaxed and interested and, you know, nodding and having a nice conversation, suddenly to, oh, oh, Barbara, you've got to watch out.
00:49:41
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You're in danger. You don't know what you're fooling with. you're You're really in trouble. Oh, you've got to really, really protect her. And I mean, she just, her whole self became, she still looked human, but- whole presentation, the whole expression was entirely different. It went suddenly into terror and caution, watch out.
00:50:07
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And and i I was just fascinated. I just kept looking at her eyes as she was shooting all this danger information to me. yeah Fortunately, I decided You know this is fascinating. on I'm not going to buy into the danger. I'm just going to watch and see what's happening here.
00:50:31
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and yeah And then we were interrupted. i said i wonder if she might have gone into a reptilian form herself, but ah we were interrupted. we were on it.
00:50:45
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sort of a seminar tour, and the tour bus came to take us to, this was in Bali, Indonesia, and take some Bali temples. And so we stopped talking, we got separately on the bus and never talked again.
00:51:02
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oh The rest of that trip. But it was very pronounced. And then the other woman was Cynthia Crawford, one of our hybrids on whole different occasion in a different country, even.
00:51:15
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And we're standing with a small group of people talking in a room in the evening. and sort of the gathering. And as yeah i as we were watching or talking, I noticed that her eyes were changing.
00:51:34
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and i said And I knew that she had the ability to change into her full reptilian form too. So I just said, By any chance, do you you feel anything different happening with your eyes right now?" And she said, yeah, feel sort of a pressure.
00:51:54
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Why? and I said, well, because I see your pupils changing. into vertical pupils. And she said, oh, good. And she she broke away from our little group and ran into the ladies' room nearby to look in the mirror and see it for herself.
00:52:11
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Because she said, I've had that happen be before, and then people have commented on it, and I have changed into it. my full reptilian form. um And I just wanted to see that as it was beginning to happen.
00:52:26
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So anyways, she did not turn into her reptilian form in front of us although I wish that she had, know, because I would would like to experience that.
00:52:38
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But she remains human and the changing didn't continue to happen. So was that
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00:52:47
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like a validation for you to see, I know and not the full form, but just you know the work that you do and and seeing that with your own eyes.
00:52:58
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Oh, yes, in both cases. I was very grateful for getting to witness that. um When I, I've heard you talk about synchronicities. When I first started doing past life regressions, not long after ah i met someone who could recall a past life in vivid detail consciously, which surprised me.
00:53:24
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Well, yeah. And I met a young child who could remember all of their past lives. I had recall of that. And I had that blew me away.
00:53:36
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But it was like the synchronicity of like, okay, I've learned this new technique. I'm starting to explore it, doing my own past life regression. And then, you know, these people came into my world with which, you know, it seems synchronistically. Okay, here you go.
00:53:54
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Well, I agree if that's happened to me and in so many ways. and So I had a child come in, let's see, he must have been age four, came in with his mother to my therapy practice, and oh everything was normal. He came because they the parents had just ah separated, and he was very concerned about you know, what his life would be like when he get to see Papa, the way he used to every day.
00:54:28
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and Anyway, we were dealing with that, reassuring to him, the mother and i And then as they were just leaving the cow my room,
00:54:39
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on he said, out of the blue, um something about, well, in my last lifetime,
00:54:51
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something. And then he went on with whatever that was. And so I said, oh, okay. you know You remember that? And he said, yes, I do. I said, oh, okay. Well, who what were you?
00:55:03
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Anyway, then we sat down and I thought, oh, wow, this is precious. One of these children who remembers the past life and the more culture that's not you know very much talked about.
00:55:18
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Yeah, and he had not been with his parents, even though his parents believed in that, but as it turned out. But anyway, he he said, oh, well, my name was da-da-da-da-da, and i i was I was a boy, and then I grew up, and it was in near Ogden, Utah, and he named the town, and um He told all about his family and about his siblings and what his father did for work and what his mother did after a while when the kids were old enough, what she did for work, and the about the woman he married and their children. This is all conscious recollection.
00:56:03
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yeah So I affirmed all that and said, I really, really appreciated his sharing that. Unfortunately, his mother was okay. Without too many mothers wouldn't be, but she was.
00:56:17
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And then, okay, that was when he was four. When he was seven, ah i was invited by of film company in Hollywood to regress a child.
00:56:31
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So he approaches the one I thought of. Other children I knew wouldn't have remembered past lives. I don't think, not that I know of anyway.
00:56:43
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So anyway, I got permission from his parents to come in and the film country company came and they filmed him. He was going through that same lifetime that he had told us about, but with more detail even.
00:56:58
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But he had remembered unconsciously, I consciously remembered a tremendous amount. remarkable. And to our surprise, he said, that wasn't really my last life. That was my last long life.
00:57:16
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But there was another short one. And it was just regression. And I said, OK, well, would you be willing to go to that one? And he said, yes. Turned out he was a girl.
00:57:27
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who died at about age 10, and that it was okay. It was a tragedy for her family, but not for her because her soul had decided to come in for just to experience a few years.
00:57:43
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of life on earth and then leave. So she conveniently developed some sort of condition that took her life. and ah And the soul, ah this is the soul at this point speaking, and he said,
00:58:00
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So that was fine. no yeah I did what I wanted to do, just just have a short life as a girl, since I'd had that long life as a man.
00:58:12
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well and And now come into this life as a boy again, a male, and I can have as long a life as I want to.
00:58:23
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And it will definitely be a lot longer than the life of when I was a girl for 10 years. So yeah rabbi I thought that was really interesting.
00:58:34
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And yeah just he remembered consciously as much as he had remembered well it's It's so interesting. um And that also carried forward when I started doing work with experiencers and encountering,
00:58:58
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you know, I get nervous as a licensed therapist talking about these things, but I, so I admire you speaking so freely about it, but it just my own UFO experience ah talking about like Arcturian beings and then having not a interaction with beings necessarily, but the consciousness of ships interacting with me.
00:59:19
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oh i almost great And so it was a validation for me like, okay, they're here, they're just saying hi yeah This is real, right? Like, we're were you know like we're really here. Because you you have that question, like, is is this real?
00:59:36
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right Can you share some synchronicities and maybe some validations that you've received? I think you've had more well interesting experiences. actually had four encounter experiences.
00:59:49
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oh which I did not know. They know they hadn't happened yet ah when I began doing this work with other people and their experiences.
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But of right along with getting very, very involved in this part of my work as a therapist, 1991, I also began i also began a 27-year long ah investigation of crop circles.
01:00:24
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So i in england go I went to England every summer, 27 years to study the crop circles. And um after a few years, I started leading groups, which I would set up to make all the arrangements for and drive around so that we could visit crop circles. was just wonderful.
01:00:47
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wonderfuls a wonderful adventure. And ah after I'd been doing that For three years, one morning I was working with client who did many regressions with me to her extraterrestrial experiences.
01:01:06
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And she, in some of our sessions, would channel an extraterrestrial being. in And it was the same extraterrestrial being.
01:01:18
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So I felt that I was developing a friendship. with him. an a Anyway, in the winter of 1994, having done three summers of crop circle work, he said, Barbara, I notice that you're very, very interested in the crop circles.
01:01:42
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And if you would like to, ah you could be taken for the making of the crop circle. what mean What an offer. of it but you And they said, well, I don't know, I'll have to think about that.
01:01:58
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Because I thought if if it involved beings coming in a ship and taking me, I just know that I don't know if I'm ready for that. And I i like you know would hope that I'd get returned safely to the same place and everything. What if I weren't?
01:02:15
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So anyway, for about six months, I i thought about that. And on the channeling session before I was to leave for England for visiting crop circles for about six weeks. That's how I was going to be gone.
01:02:33
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oh is it I told him in the channeling that I would like to accept that offer to be taken for the making of the crop shipwreck. ah what do What do I do you know to allow that to happen?
01:02:48
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And he said, well, you need to talk with them. You may not know who they are, the beings, but just send out those thoughts and wishes, desire to be taken.
01:03:00
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And keep it up for a while. Don't just say a couple of things. Keep it going. So on the way to the airport, and this is Southern California, heading toward Los Angeles Airport,
01:03:16
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oh the afternoon and that I was going to be flying, I was talking well out loud in my car, alone, ah to whomever they were. i didn't know what to picture or whom to ask for. I just said, those who are involved in making Cropsicles, you know, please hear me.
01:03:38
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And I asked and I praised them for all the beautiful work they had been doing it and what I thought their motivation was and that it was a helpful, very benign, generous thing to you do.
01:03:52
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And I did that for, 45 or 50 minutes. got to the airport, you know, took the plane, went to England, got very involved in doing everything in England. And then at the night before the last day ah in which I could have been seeing popsicles still out in the countryside, I realized, well, you know, I don't think anything like that has happened. And the trip is almost over.
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And so I asked again, which is very briefly this time, And then the next thing I knew as I was getting into bed in the inn I was staying in in southern England, england oh suddenly I saw three short beings coming from the area of the window, and there was some nightlight coming through the window, of no light in the room at this point.
01:04:46
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And and all coming toward me. And then they when they got closer, I was out of conscious awareness, didn't know a thing. And I got up the next morning with the alarm clock waking me, went in a double-decker bus with the whole group I was with.
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And I i was the one to find a new crop circle in a specific field and was the first one ah to... I lent the group and joined friend in a following in a rented car.
01:05:21
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And we and a couple of other people went in. We were the first ones in a brand new, beautiful, sparkly, pristine crop circle that had obviously just been made.
01:05:35
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and of So that was wonderful. And then I found out a couple of weeks later back home again, oh had a regression and the all the details of of that experience that happened after the three little beings came to me from the area of the window yeah the subconscious part of the mind, luckily, let me know and remember, we live every bit of that experience. So I had been board small craft and they made the corruption book by sending down something. It sounded like a big swooshing sound from the middle of this little craft, which was very close to where I was sitting.
01:06:23
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and um and And we made a pattern that seemed to be going around in a circle. so so social sure And a ring around it.
01:06:34
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and And that's exactly what the crop circle looked like. it was they went It was made that night. And then by the end of the day, we saw aerial photographs of it.
01:06:49
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And I said, yeah. What was the meaning of that crop circle? Well, it was the last one in a long series of cruxables that was following the Shoemaker-Levy comet going across the sky and hitting planet Jupiter.
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and And the newspapers there in England, every time a piece of the comment—there were 21 pieces of his comment—and every time a piece would hit Jupiter in basically the same location that the other ones had hit, there would be a picture of of that.
01:07:33
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and were on the collision site on Jupiter. And of you can sort of follow it in terms of the crop circle. Each time a piece of the comet would hit Jupiter, there would be another crop circle with one fewer piece in the tail.
01:07:54
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until they were all done. And then this crop circle I'd been describing, the one I was there for the making of, that was showing, I think, that it was all, that whole phenomenon was wrapped up.
01:08:09
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In other words, it showed the circle one bigger, went slightly smaller, slightly smaller, slightly smaller, all the way around, forming a circle. And then a big ring enclosing.
01:08:21
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that circle. So I think it was showing that that phenomenon that was happening out in the sky a was all wrapped up. was finished. The completion.
01:08:34
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Yeah. mean, and how perfect. So that oh that whole experience of wanting to be taken to the making of a crop circle and being responded to,
01:08:46
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It seems to me that that got the attention of some other kinds of beings out there in space. And so
01:09:00
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Three years later, when I was driving down California freeway from Santa Barbara to Ventura and then eventually to Claremont, where I lived at the time, about a two and a half hour drive, another abduction happened that I had not asked for.
01:09:22
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but oh And my car and I were taken together. And there was evidence on the car that something had definitely happened to it. but And oh yeah yeah I thought, that's great. There's there's proof.
01:09:37
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There's proof of this one. So anyway, that That was more for the beings taking information from my brain, they said.
01:09:52
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i'll okay ah All the experiences that I had regressed people to that involved extraterrestrials. So in other words, there were a lot of of the beings who were interested in that information that this one human happened to have, because I'd done a lot of progressions by that time.
01:10:16
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I mean, probably a few hundreds at that time. I
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was regressed on that occasion by Dolores Cannon. ah yeah you know, it's so wonderfully oh well known for all that she brought through the regressions that she did.
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and Yeah. I just met her daughter a couple weeks ago. yeah but Julia. Yeah. yeah my And her granddaughter. But yeah, they were delightful. But yeah, sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. yeah. you Well, they're wonderful, wonderful people. So is Dolores.
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And, um,
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So she the investigator part of her kept asking the being, the main being, there were a lot of little beings around that I thought were absolutely adorable, ah but then there was one tall, very white being and with really big eyes, and ah she was asking him.
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So most of that regression was her asking questions through me and his answering through me, and I would pass it on to her.
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And it was so interesting. um And he... suggested that if there were many beings who would like to know this information that he was taking from my brain with some sort of apparatus that had been attached to my head.
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an on
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that there were many beings who of different types who were interested in this, and that they would broadcast he would broadcast this information from my brain about people who had ET experiences, and other ETs would tune in, like we tune into a radio station or television station, he said.
01:12:17
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And ah they would get all of this information. And those who don't care about that information just simply wouldn't tune into it. It makes sense.
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Yeah. yeah as um So anyway, he gave lots and lots of information about his type and some of the others and the agendas. and oh And then after a couple of hours, Delores said, oh we're going to have to finish. I have another appointment to get to. And the tape had run out too by that time.
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And he said, if you want to do this again, if you want to find out more information, from me, just do what you did today, in other words, the regression, and holyly I'll give you whatever you want in terms of information.
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So two and a half months later, we met on closer to Los Angeles when she came out here to do workshops or appointments.
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And ah she this time Each of us had a long list of questions we wanted to ask him. asset yeah And he was wonderful about answering them. He knew that that's what that session was for.
01:13:36
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And then she put that material into the last two chapters of a book she was just finishing at the time, And that book is called The Custodians by Dolores King.
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And the last two
Support and Therapy for Extraterrestrial Experiences
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chapters are from this information from this regression. Although she calls me Bonnie the investigator rather than Barbara and the the therapist.
01:14:08
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that wasn't i just I was giving a lot of lectures already but about extraterrestrial experiences, but I wasn't ready to have that known.
01:14:20
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I, too, was my second experience since then. It's been perfectly fine, but I wasn't ready. That's wonderful.
01:14:31
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So then there were two more after that, different years of different types. And one of them was a reptilian male who suddenly appeared one afternoon in my living room.
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And we held held hands like a handshake position. And he communicated with me telepathically. It must have been telepathically because I didn't hear him with my ears and I didn't see a mouth move.
01:14:59
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But he was there for, I guess, five or six minutes at least, oh just giving information and perspective.
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and i appreciate Did you ask for that or was it just a... No, I never ever imagined that such a thing would happen.
01:15:23
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ah and But it was real, very real. And then ill another one, see in 2008, I believe it was, i believe it was um
01:15:39
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ay Nadine Lalich and I wrote a book about extraterrestrial experiences called Alien Experiences, is the title of the book.
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And we had just finished writing that with a number of cases that I had worked with. And then she was an experiencer, so she described her experiences.
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And oh we just finished writing it. we end I'd gone into a publisher yet, but we had just finished the writing. um And a different group of beings took me up into a craft that looked like a round, a spherical-shaped ball of cotton candy, peachy pink colored cotton candy. That's what it looked like. I don't know what the material really was. oh And I was standing there on that kind of floor, cotton candy floor, ah but there was enough to stand on.
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and Or this might have been an astral experience. I'm just not sure whether I went with my body or went without my body. But anyway, It was a whole row of about eight very tall, very, very slim beings who almost seemed to be attached to each other, that have lined out like that.
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And I could just barely see that there were eyes. They were kind of misty or almost invisible. And i would gone they very kindly, beautiful beings who sort of moved like that, kind undulated a little bit. And all at the same time. Eight of them. And you were just they were just beautiful and seemed very peaceful, very loving.
01:17:40
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And um they came closer all together. And they told me, well, they started out by saying, ah, Barbara. So I knew they were talking to me.
01:17:53
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We are so pleased that you and your friend have written the book. You have just completed it. They told about how they wanted more and more people on Earth to know about the existence of them and the other beings. And they understood that most humans didn't know that there were others living in space.
01:18:17
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And it's about time that we wake up and that we do know. so they were very, very pleased that we were trying to bring this truth out and they appreciated the work I was doing.
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and And, um, Basically, that was that for oh several minutes. and um And then I i was returned. and And the next thing I knew, i was standing in the hallway where this experience had started.
01:18:48
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And, you know, when i went on with the rest of my day and then was regressed the next day. Well, it was nice and fresh to that experience. So so you knew, like, I want to and unpack this experience?
01:19:03
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Yes. Right. So oh they've all been. ah very interesting and very good, in in my opinion. i'm I'm very grateful to have had each one of them, and especially that they're different types of beings.
01:19:21
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In other words, I feel very convinced ah from my experiences and other people's as well, of that there there are many, many, many different kinds of beings that have to do, there's something to do with some human beings.
01:19:41
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And I've never come across any that really seem to be threatening or out to harm us in in any way or take over the world or things that you hear people wondering about sometimes. yeah The aliens will ever take over the world.
01:20:00
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Well, i these paintings that I've had contact with, they have nothing to do with anything of that sort. Well, i guess they could if they wanted to.
01:20:12
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oh Oh, yes. i mean you know Between all of them and the incredible skills they have, the technology and the psychic paranormal skills they have, they certainly could have taken us anytime, long time ago, until they could be taking us now. And if not, ah that's that's not what it's about. i think yeah I think there really is a lot going on out there in space that we usually don't know about.
01:20:44
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in other words, there are skirmishes and wars, I think, going on from one planet to another. There apparently is a very long history of that.
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ah One of the books that has talked a lot about that is called The Book of Urantia, which is all channel material from quite a number of decades ago. on and What was the name? the book of It's called Book oh you're a raner you are a m T I A. Okay. It doesn't have a regular author, I think, because it's, it's been shown.
01:21:32
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Yeah. i I, you know, you mentioned synchronicities. One of the synchronicities that happened to me was way back in 1970,
01:21:44
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seventy seven ah my husband and our three children were on a camping trip in Hawaii. We would rent camper vehicle, you know, that we could all sleep in.
01:21:59
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And um went to i think it was the island of Malachi. And when we went to pick up the camper van to sleep in,
01:22:11
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ah We had a conversation with the man who was renting the equipment. And to my surprise, he took me aside and gave me the Book of Uretria, which I had never heard of at that time. And he said, I think you would be very interested in this.
01:22:34
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And I was, I was reading it every night while we were on that island with a flashlight under the the bed, of course, because the others wanted to sleep.
01:22:45
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well But anyway, so I got an introduction to the fact that there are all these different species out there, many of them, and and many of them had had wars with each other and taken over each other's planets.
01:23:03
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and intermingled with them, interbred with them. Anyway, so that was back in the late 1970s, and I had no thought in my mind on the horizon or anywhere about there really being extraterrestrial beings out there in space.
01:23:26
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yeah The cosmos is full of life, even if we had known about it. So, that was and how that man knew that I would be interested in that, I don't know. And he also, i think, must have known that that my husband at the time oh would not be interested at all.
01:23:51
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he was a good tourist. yeah Yeah. And totally not interested in anything of this sort whatsoever.
01:24:02
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And I didn't want to ever hear about it. So that's why I was reading under the covers. It's so interesting.
01:24:14
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That's so interesting. um yeah for I did a past life regression and A friend of mine did one too. And that was the first time he said, i he came back and I'm like, what happened? He goes, well, apparently I'm an alien called a Pollyadian.
01:24:31
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i influence last What is I apologize because I didn't know. what really yeah for i apologize because i didn't know I'm like, i I'm sorry. I don't know what happened. Like,
01:24:46
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But then later on, like, okay, there's more things out here than I understand at the moment. But from that therapist lens to having an open mind and being curious, like you have, so you have that in droves that led you down this path after these synchronicities and everything else. It's just truly oh amazing.
01:25:07
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And I had certainly never expected anything like this earlier in my life. Yeah. Barbara, I could talk to you forever, but I, what in your mind um is most needed maybe for kind of the time now or just the experience or community? I know that you're big into the support groups and things like that.
01:25:33
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Right. Is there a need that, um you know, a younger therapist like me might be open to or or providing that? Well, um if you find that you have two or three or more ah people who come to you for regressions and find out that they've had extraterrestrial encounters, you might suggest to them ah that you know we get together as a group.
01:26:03
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and share because people really appreciate knowing that they're not alone in in these unusual things. And with my group, I started regressing people to extraterrestrial encounters in 1991. And then 1994, I reasoned then but ninety ninetyfour oh i ah had reason to count how many people was I working with about you know this type of thing.
01:26:35
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And I was, I have 17 people and um ah a couple of them asked if I knew of anybody else having these types pictures.
01:26:48
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said, yes, indeed I do. and and They said, well, are they around here? This was in Southern California. I said, yes, they are. and all they asked to be introduced to them.
01:27:02
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So I formed a little experience of support group with those 17 people. And that group went from 1994 till I moved away from that area in 2017.
01:27:17
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two thousand and seventeen so And so during all of those years, ah some people continued to the whole 17 years of coming to the group.
01:27:30
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And once a while, somebody would move away or drop out for one reason and a new person would come in. like always... wish oh said, I have a requirement for being in this group, and that is that you do at least one regression with me.
01:27:48
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Because I wanted to know if they really were an experiencer or was interested it. you know And so, everybody who who actually came England had at least one regression. so And then, of course, they kept having experiences as the years went on, too, some of them more than others.
01:28:13
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And then they'd come in, well, guess what happened to me two nights ago? you know and all Anyway, we did not only reporting about the experiences, but really trying to do a lot of thinking about it, a lot of figuring about it, and people would begin to bring in things that they had read.
01:28:35
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about this phenomenon. And so we really learned a lot and shared a lot and everybody appreciated what each other had been they experiencing.
01:28:48
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So it was and give's a wonderful thing. I remember just, and we would meet once a month at my home as a potluck supper. And so it was a really nice social occasion as well.
01:29:02
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We'd be together for four or five hours, sometimes even longer, if some people wanted to stay. oh And everybody feeling more and more comfortable, more and more normal and natural about the fact that they were having these unusual experiences.
01:29:20
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And so that's what's a service that that you could give or even just having a yo little threesome, you know, two of your experience or clients that until it grows bigger, it will probably be growing bigger somehow.
01:29:40
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oh yeah At the international UFO conferences and other big UFO conferences, oh I used to lead experiencer groups too.
01:29:54
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And yeah thought often we would have 50 or 60 people in one of those groups. So not everybody spoke, but those who wanted to.
01:30:05
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always had the chance to speak. and We had the rule that ah nobody could criticize anybody else for what they were saying or in any way.
01:30:19
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um and and We we had to all be open-minded and hear the person's experience as the person was telling it. of And in many cases, those people who shared or had not had any regressions done, but they were sharing whatever the little bits and pieces, which were important bits and pieces, that's for sure.
01:30:47
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oh And they they always felt so good at putting it into words with other people who would receive it, who would not make fun of it or just fluff it away or say, oh, you've got to be making it up or, you know, it must have been a dream.
01:31:06
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You know, i I always insisted that wait we listen with an open mind and a heart too. Yeah. that That these are...
01:31:18
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things that people had really experienced that have meant a lot to them. shall there's no acceptability to putting it down whenever anyone is sharing.
01:31:30
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So those were very helpful, people said, too. Sometimes people would or go to of the UFO conferences mostly to attend the experiencer groups.
01:31:48
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yeah because they had had experiences that they wondered that they couldn't really explain. oh and they felt different than just didn't usually have anybody to talk to about that sort of thing.
01:32:03
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So I think it's one that you are doing the work that you're doing and anybody else who's doing it. And, out you know, just allowing the the people who come to you for this particular reason,
01:32:17
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to know more about that. And yeah, I accepted by you you, know, to come to you in the first place, they would have a certain amount of respect for you because of your position as a therapist.
01:32:35
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And joe it means a lot if, if you as a therapist, you know, hear them take it in and um accept what they're saying. You don't have to necessarily believe every little bit of it yourself, but at least accept it, that this is what they truly think that they have experienced, and they probably have.
01:33:02
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Yeah. that Yeah. And um just to I have people even call me now, people who had come maybe even years ago for a regression or two or three, and will say, oh, I'm so glad I could find you that I could still talk about this because they haven't gotten to anybody else in all of these years to really talk to about these experiences I've had. Mm-hmm.
01:33:35
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Generally speaking, people have not been aware um hold extraterrestrial visits. It's becoming more known all the time, I think now.
01:33:48
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well But way back when I started this, nobody could find anybody to talk to about this. You didn't just think they were cuckoo.
01:34:00
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Yeah. Yeah. You are, you're a pioneer. Yeah. So, and I, so thank you, you know, for, you know, paving the way for people like me to learn more about this topic and, you know, expand on that. It's, uh, it's truly amazing to talk to you and and have you share your wisdom and experiences. Um, how can people find you, Barbara?
01:34:28
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Okay, well, ah there are two ways. I have a we website, which is
01:34:48
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And then there's a YouTube channel, which has probably 20 or maybe more of of individual podcasts about some are about this subject some are about other unusual subjects and always having something to do with my own experiences and others and that youtube channel is barbara lamb et regression
01:35:20
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Barbara Lamb ET Regressions. So on both of those ah sites, there are a number of different interviews. Some them will cover material that we've talked about tonight, some with other material that we haven't talked about, but I think it's all interesting material.
01:35:43
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So, and of course, if anybody wanted to contact me for a regression, ah the way to do that would be to go to the website, marbarlandregression.com,
01:35:56
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and i scroll down, and there's a place where you can type in a message. And that gets forwarded to my email. And then when I can, sometimes there's a little time gap in there.
01:36:10
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on i I type back, I email back a response telling about the progressions and when I do them and the cost, we can do them in person in San Diego where I am, or can do them online. There are number of online services that work really, really well.
01:36:31
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And i'll end those appointments are just as good, just as helpful online as the ones in person, in my opinion. Yeah.
01:36:43
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Yeah. So there's plenty of way to get in touch with me. And on the website, there are five books which I have co-authored and they can be ordered there and you pay through PayPal.
01:36:57
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And I get the notice from PayPal, and send out the book, about my signature and a brief message ah to each individual person. So that's nice too.
01:37:11
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Absolutely. i will be doing both. And I will put the links to both ah the YouTube channel and to your website as well. All right. Thank you. Yes.
01:37:23
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Barbara, is there anything that you would like to share to someone maybe who's listening who might think that they're an experiencer? Any parting wisdom that you might share with them?
01:37:36
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Well, just keep opening up and then and learning and learn as much as you can and be aware as much as you can. And sometimes even a person will, you know, have a little tiny bit of an experience that they recall.
01:37:54
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and alan and not the whole context. So if they would just sit quietly in sort of a meditative state and think about that little teeny bit that they do know, sometimes it sort of opens up into knowing more.
01:38:10
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about what happened in in that particular experience. So, you know, and another thing is that you can always, if you think that you're having some of these experiences with extraterrestrials,
01:38:25
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You can always ask them for help with something. And I think, truly, from many people's experiences, and my own, I think that they they will give help, kind of like a spirit guide.
01:38:44
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Sometimes people ask their spirit guides for help with a particular thing. situation and suddenly they get the inspiration. They don't know where it came from, but they get the inspiration of a way to ah get some help with with that particular situation.
01:39:05
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And I think that's the with the ETs who are very attentively focused on certain people here. in the world.
01:39:18
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And that there's more of a line that's possible to be open between us and the beings. Much more so than we would guess.
01:39:30
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So, and other words, keep opening and expanding, asking, being aware of anything unusual that's happening to you too, unusual markings you have on your body or missing time or You know, nighttime visits or or whatever that seemed, wow, I wonder to what that was.
01:39:53
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You know, give some time attention to that. And of course,
Closing Thoughts and Encouragement to Explore Further
01:39:57
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if you could find somebody to help you with a regression, somebody who's very open to this whole area of reality, oh that is a wonderful, wonderful while too.
01:40:11
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Helps you put a lot of things together. lot of little little yeah hints and bits and pieces.
01:40:19
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So many blessings to all of you who are experiencing this and many blessings to those of you who are not experiencing it, but are open to learning about it. That's wonderful too.
01:40:34
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Barbara Lamb, thank you so much for your time this evening. You're welcome. It's been delight. And thank you for the work that you're doing.
01:40:50
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01:41:04
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01:41:19
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