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Speaker: Hello and welcome to Dingle All The Way. I'm Simon. And I'm Lizzie. And I know he said this lot though you says every time, but one active what an active time and they're having in the village. Deaths, exits, other things.
Speaker: Bikes. but Bikes? Bikes. Oh, yeah, bikes. So true. I forgot about the bikes. um Yeah, gosh, so much going on All of it. Genuinely very interesting. um Other than, I guess, a couple of things I will mention, but we don't have to get into that yet.
Speaker: And I guess um Charity Sarah Doctotard is the the big one. Yeah. the big one and i didn't write many notes about this mainly because i was just actually watching it um but the main thing i wrote let me find my note they so nearly told the truth for once like they were so close to just telling the police what happened and it's one of those ones where yeah what actually happened as we saw it was an accident and now it just sounds like it now they've just lied about it being a different accident and I know, like if you're gonna about anything you could cover up a bit more but I guess Charity wants to take the hit for Sarah doesn't she? Which is kind but it's clearly eating Sarah up inside and now it's led to Charity telling a different lie to Mac of all people. Why would you try and cover up to your own husband and be like yes I did willfully murder somebody.
Speaker: Why is that a better lie? Why can't you just say to him, actually, it's Sarah and I'm covering for her rather than a murderer. I know. I think maybe he would grow to resent Sarah or something, but it is completely unhinged. Yeah, truly. And I've never had lie to the police that I can remember. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've never spoken to the police. But know I have. I'll come on to that in a second it's a fun story. But I would say to Sarah, maybe you don't constantly be scrunching up your face in anxiety and clear. Like, oh, I'm really uneasy at the lie I'm telling face. Yeah, she didn't look great about the whole thing. And then that sweet police guy who was just like, look,
Speaker: I think what's going to be best here is if you just tell me the truth. And she was still. was like, I hadn't crossed my mind. so Yeah. Like, actually, i don't think I will. Because she was so outraged that um at first when Charity made the call to the police being like, I've just killed someone. And Sarah i was like, no, why do you do that? Then the moment she got to the station, like never crossed her mind to tell the truth herself.
Speaker: That's true, bless her. I mean, I know she's in shock, but ah yeah. So my police story at an interval is that I used to live next door to this man who was, bless him, not very well. And ah that manifested itself in many different ways, but one of which was sort of like paranoia. So he once said to me, could you go and tell the police that...
Speaker: I reported that someone had broken into my house and stolen my wallet. um They broke back into my house and put my wallet back in my house. So could you go and let them know that it's not missing anymore? And I was like, well, could you go and tell them? And he said, oh, no, because I spoke to them last.
Speaker: Okay. Okay. So I went to the police station, not knowing if the report of the crime was a fabrication in itself, being like, I don't know if this crime was ever reported. I think the only thing that happened there is that you've ended up on some sort of record, like a watch list of some kind.
Speaker: Yeah, well, they were quite bemused. They sort of wrote it down on notepad that I assume they immediately threw into a fire. It's the only logical option at this stage. That's so good. um Yeah. So one interesting thing that came out in the conversation with Mac was always like, you know how you felt when you killed Harry? who Who's Harry? I was going to say, like, what the heck happened with someone called Harry?
Speaker: And I could have Googled this, but I did not. Should I do a quick Google? Yeah. Who is Harry? how I mean, it sounded like Charity accidentally killed him. Unless Harry's the name of the man who raped her, that she came back into her life with the police officer.
Speaker: Did he did he she kill him? Harry John Sugden is the son of Victoria Sugden and her rapist Lee Posner? That's not... I mean, Harry's still alive, that little boy. oh Harry the villain, brackets, played by Robert Beck.
Speaker: Oh, Harry the villain. well if going to name your child that, what do you expect? I'm just on various AI summaries and I don't really trust any of them. okay Let's get on Amadell wiki.
Speaker: Oh yeah, Harry, we've seen comparatively recently. Have As in like the child, i just remembered. sorry, okay, yeah, Can you imagine if that was how they dropped the bombshell that Charity had killed Victoria's child? Yeah, just Robert gets a text being like, by the way. By the way.
Speaker: He died eventually of the slurry. was very low long, long, far reaching. was delayed. um So Harry, I think we're talking about Damon Harry Harris, who is the controlling adoptive father of Chloe Harris, who was previously in a relationship with Chaz Dingle to get revenge on her half brother, Caleb Milligan. What? I did not. I read that, but I didn't follow it And I won't be looking back into it. but Let me just skip to the death section. getness
Speaker: Okay. Charity arrives midway through some sort of tussle after which she's maybe Mac got kidnapped. Oh, I don't know. Charity then arrived and tried to stop Damon from killing her husband.
Speaker: But also he was trying to kill Mac. But in the struggle, Charity accidentally shot Damon dead. Oh, wow. Sometimes I think I've got a good knowledge of everything that's happened in the time I wasn't watching. And then sometimes entire characters and stories and worlds emerge that I have no idea about. And this only in 2023. This was not that long before we started watching wow. She's really moved on quickly.
Speaker: From Mac or from killing someone. Oh, from killing someone. she doesn't seem mean Presumably there was a you know police investigation, etc. oh there's nothing about that. I guess it must have been a cover-up.
Speaker: Maybe they just let bygones be bygones. Yeah, I think it's just as well. He seemed like a wrong-in. Yeah. If you're going to be called Damon Harry Harris.
Speaker: Yeah. What do you want? um I thought it was interesting during the the death scene how reluctant Charity was to try mouth-to-mouth at all. She was just like, no, she's gone. I've given her a wrist, a quick a quick jab of my fingers. No pulse. No pulse. And I'm out. I also thought it was really stupid of them to claim that they tried Yeah.
Speaker: Because they, wait, they didn't, did they? Oh, Sarah sarah did. oh really? Okay, fair. Because I was like, they will definitely be able to find out in forensics whether or not you did chest compressions and you're making a bold claim here, but she can't tried for very long. No, Charity kept trying to drag her away. It's like, she's gone! her die. you're meant to do it for quite a while, I think. Yeah, I think you are. Yeah. I mean, I can understand not wanting to mouth-to-mouth on somebody who has assaulted you.
Speaker: Yeah, that is fair. um And i learned from that first aid course that I referenced last time, read the catastrophic bleeding, that actually you're not meant to do mouth to mouth anymore. Unless it's a child, you just do chest compressions.
Speaker: Wow, I had no idea. Why? I think because people stop doing the chest compressions to do the mouth to mouth and it's more dangerous to pause the chest compressions than it is advantageous. And also because you're breathing out less oxygen than is in the air.
Speaker: ka Okay, fair. Maybe that's what Charity was thinking. She was like, I've been on this course. It's more dangerous, okay? It's more dangerous, just don't even look at her hope That's the best way And I will say, despite my talk last week, last time about head wounds bleed hugely She did not bleed very much from that head wound I thought that was quite a lot of blood To kill someone?
Speaker: always thought it was spread for metres, but you know maybe not. ah I don't know. i so i yeah i've never considered that it's the loss of blood itself that kills you as well. I thought it was like that's true the bash to the head, but I don't know. and I will say, if if Charity's lie that she was planning to murder her was true, then pushing her over and hoping she'd hit the sideboard was like yeah not a great plan. It's not a thought through scheme, is it? No. She's like, Mac, I lured her here in the hope that I know that corn is pretty, pretty tough there. I was hoping she'd lose her balance I could push her a alert along the way. Yeah, in my kitchen full of knives, i thought that was the best way to go. yeah
Speaker: But for once, they clean up after a crime scene. I mean, I don't know if police have people who go and do that for you. But that's something I was going to say is like, who does the cleanup? Clearly, obviously, her wooden floor is stained. um But whose responsibility is it? There was a movie where Amy Adams and Emily Blunt played crime scene cleanup people. So i guess Emily Blunt and Amy Adams.
Speaker: I guess that that's why we haven't seen much from them recently. They've just been relentlessly scrubbing floors. Scrubbing blood. But yeah, it was very Lady Macbeth coded when she was there, just like scrubbing the floor. I won't get out. So true. Out.
Speaker: Yeah, Mac didn't pick up on any of those sort of Subtle hint. Even though he's Scottish. Even though he's Scottish and he loves Shakespeare. prophet Possibly. I'm going to guess that Mac has not been to see a Shakespeare play since he was dragged there during GCSE. Have you not noticed that he only speaks in iambic pentameter? That'd pass me by, actually. Oh, wow. Okay, Gracie. It's one of my favourite things about Emdale.
Speaker: I'd love that if they do an episode entirely in iambic pentameter. That would be so good. Can we petition for that? If this podcast does nothing else... Do it on April 23rd, Shakespeare's birthday, possibly. Yeah, that'd be lovely. We don't know when Shakespeare's birthday is, but fun fact, they guessed his birthday based on the fact that he was baptised on the 26th of April. We have baptism records and people normally got baptised on that day of their lives. Oh, that is a fun fact. So I guess the fact that he died on his birthday is probably also not true. Yeah, I think partly, I think they made that his birthday so they could be like, look, he died on his birthday. so he definitely died on April 23rd. Basically everything we know about Shakespeare is just fabrication, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: Which is a shame It is a shame in a way but um I don't know where i'm going with that yeah matt Mac will surely write the definitive move biography at some point say yeah Surely holy surely ah So yeah, where do you think going to go?
Speaker: oh I think I might have to stop giving predictions. like Because we just don't know. Lest we forget, like not that long ago, this was just a storyline about workplace bullying.
Speaker: And like now look. Now look, it has i would say has spiralled. It has spiralled in a huge way. And I do worry about anybody who was watching the workplace bullying storyline being like, this is so relatable.
Speaker: i guess I will too file an HR complaint and try and get some help. And then they're like, actually, i guess the only real option is for my grandmother-in-law to claim to murder her when actually it was my wife. Yeah. That's where it's going to end up. The moment that you raise something with HR, that's what we're looking at. Like that's, that's the only way they know how to escalate things. Yeah. It'd be funny if the HR lady is behind it all somehow. but i bet she is putting all sorts of strings. um Yeah. Where do I think this is going to go
Speaker: I fear that this could finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back of their marriage because like so much has happened in the last, I was going to say six months, but basically six weeks.
Speaker: that could break a marriage but claiming to be an actual murderer and with that would ruin mood wouldn't it yeah and that also being a lie that you're telling to your spouse is to me crazy and we know that Lawrence AK Mac is going on Strictly Come Dancing so he's definitely going to go away for a few weeks so true he's definitely at least taking a break from things yeah and it does sound like he's not leaving the show based on what he's saying but unless that's a cover up but um It also sounds like he might be like, I need some time apart for as long as i manage to stay in a dancing competition.
Speaker: yeah What about you what do you? Where do you think this is going? I feel like... I feel like Sarah's going to break down and just like confess stuff at some point. Well, that's what I thought she was doing when she was going to the police station, which is probably what they thought they wanted us to think. like Maybe she'll do it during a trial of charity?
Speaker: oh yeah that could be quite high drama if she's giving a witness statement then she's like actually you know what it was me it was me i know what happens if you just introduce new evidence like that during a trial They probably just sort of press pause on the whole thing. i guess so. They're like, fine, come back at six months.
Speaker: um Well, I suspect what will happen is, you know, that police officer doing the slavery case, she will just somehow pin all of this on Moira. She'll be like, this was definitely Moira. Yeah, they love doing that. She was obsessed with Moira being guilty for every crime that had ever been committed.
Speaker: I'm just hoping it'll somehow clear Mac of the slurry, but I don't know Yeah, that'd be lovely, wouldn't it? would be lovely. Speaking of police... Oh, yes, go for it. No, you go for it. No, you must. Okay, fine. Push me.
Speaker: What the heck is that girl's name? Shannon? Cheryl? Serena? sugar Serena. I thought bit of chemistry between her...
Speaker: And the female police officer who was interrogating her. I thought that, yeah. She's like, you're very thorough. And then the other girl was like, she's ex-police. And I was like, wow, she's into it. Would she like to sex police?
Speaker: Oh. Do you want me to edit that out? I think probably.
Speaker: You see how you feel. Okay. ah Would you like to edit it out? um No. No. I mean, I'm happy to keep it in from my account. Okay, cool. um Yeah, so that's something I noticed. What were you going to say?
Speaker: it was just when we were panning around to a wall I don't remember seeing in Charity's house that there was this big portrait of a random girl. And like, who was that? didn't recognise her at all. Next mirror?
Speaker: Maybe, yeah. I think that's a childhood photo of Sarah. I think the idea was that she was like, looking at Sarah and looking at herself in the mirror and being like, what am I going to do? And Mac was like, would you really do all this stuff just to protect Sarah? And she was like, yes. Because she was staring at a photo of Sarah. Oh, I see. Okay. Because it did not look to me like Sarah, but um I guess also the child who played Sarah.
Speaker: was a different actress the one who's currently playing her. So I didn't know which child they took ah took a photograph of. Something I've been thinking about in the last sort of 20 to 30 seconds is the fact that like, and I hope this isn't insensitive, Sarah is going to die in the next, what, 10 to 20 years? Oh yeah, good point. so like when she does die, and presumably Charity will still be alive because she's not that old, is she just going to be like, hey, Leila's actually my daughter.
Speaker: And i didn't murder that person. um Like, what's going to happen there when she doesn't need to, like, protect Sarah's life and, like, make her life okay anymore?
Speaker: Good question. I mean, by then, Leila will be like, 20. Yeah, true. I'm not sure she's playing that far ahead. But it does also explain why she's very keen for her not to have to go to prison for any length of time, I guess. like we didn't Yeah, have you here true. That would be quite gutting.
Speaker: Yeah, interesting. But of course, not the only death in the last couple of weeks because Monty died. Yeah, he did. And I will say I struggled really to take the whole thing seriously when they were being so desperately sad about a dog who has barely been there. Or like, yeah, as in sometimes, very rarely there's a dog on that sofa. and then they're like,
Speaker: he's the best part of our family and you're like, I just don't know if that's really how you feel. He does live on in the opening titles. So he'll he'll be always there jumping off their sofa and running the that's true. Yeah, I expected to be more moved by if I'm honest.
Speaker: um But I think it was also partly the fact that he was so clearly seen quite healthy. He kept like looking at them and being like, what's going on? He was incredibly sprightly. Yeah, more so than he's been for a while. Yeah. um So yeah, I mean, it is sad for them. And I like that they acknowledge the sadness of pet death, I guess. Much more so than you know some of the other deaths that have happened. Yeah, and I did enjoy seeing Rona and Kanan scenes together because that, like you said last time, is not something we get very often. um that was very sensitive um i enjoyed the funeral i particularly enjoyed the light relief of cammy at the funeral because he said um ah someone was late or something and cammy's like it doesn't matter monty's not got anywhere to be yes then he said i haven't been to a dog's funeral before and then i was realizing um having a pet dog inside the house is haram so this is not something that
Speaker: Cammy's experience also i wrote down Haram in my notes and it autocorrected to caramelised so having a dog in the house caramelised that's a principal tenet of the faith yeah that's something they're but they won't budge on so was that subtle nod to Cammy's faith I don't know yeah I don't know. And also, was it an ad-lib? Because we heard from Shebs that he does ad-lib quite a lot of his lines, which is fun. hope we're allowed to say that. But yeah, so he does. Yeah, true. I hope we're allowed to say that. But well, we have said it now. um A big question I had was when i was on my Emmerdale hiatus over the summer, did Minty the Lamb die? Because I feel like they made a comment about like, Minty's gone and now Monty's gone. And I was like, is Minty gone?
Speaker: i They have not mentioned Minty until this point since his early triumphant storyline. Yeah, fair. So maybe he's just gone because he like died. How long do sheep live? um They do um live longer than like two years. Yeah.
Speaker: but I don't know. Maybe they descended to the abattoir. They like, you've had your fun. Yeah, I don't know. Also, I only just got the fact that he's called Minty because, you know, lamb and mint sauce. Yeah. I just thought mint because like mints are white and sheep are white. Oh, right. Well, it could be both. Yeah, it could be both. if I thought you'd enjoy the Minty mention.
Speaker: Yeah, I did enjoy the Minty mention, especially because we mentioned him last week. I don't remember why. That's true. um And then he appeared. aviie i come away either but um Yeah,
Speaker: So yeah, that was, you know, R.I.P., Sweet Sweet Monty. You might have been the best at the Dingles. We don't know. We simply have no idea. I'm sorry the Piper is still around, but you know, hopefully we won't see too much of her.
Speaker: ah did you notice that Moira said to Kane that they've had the soil test back and they can crack on with the top field? I did. The top field is back in play. which I found both wonderful because we love to hear about the top field. It's the only field we ever hear about. And I do think the writers are deliberately lacing that in just to give us a boost. think so.
Speaker: But didn't they like didn't they sell the farm? like Do they still have the top field? Where are these fields? What are you talking about? Is it just like whatever farm you have, you must designate one area of it as the top field?
Speaker: Yeah, and like how do they refer to it? I mean, it does seem like the other fields are none of their none their business, but if they do, are they like the penultimate field? The field on the left? don't know. Yeah, the bottom field. Or maybe it is a ranking of like your favourite field, that is my top field. My top field. love Flipping love that field. That's top of the rankings for me. I think of nothing but my top field. My top field, outstanding in this field. Yeah. What would you say is your top field? As in like not a physical field, like a field field.
Speaker: I now don don't know which one you want me to say. Well, okay, well, do either. I guess my top field would be ah the donkey field, which was next where I grew up, which had donkeys in it.
Speaker: That was great. nice And then in terms of field of expertise, I guess it would be the topic of my doctorate. Yeah, well it' done you. Metal bro novels and they're fantastic between the world wars. If anyone wants to read it, it's available online.
Speaker: Is it? It is, yeah. Oh, send me that. I didn't know that. Oh yeah, sure. Enjoy. Yeah, maybe I will, maybe I won't. It was referred to in once in the entirety of anything else in this essay on Rebecca West where she writes about definitions of the fantastic and she's like she dismisses this person and she says more useful is Simon Thomas's concept of domestic fantastic and then she says most useful of all is this other person. So I was like middle of three, so I'll take it. And you're still claiming that that's your top thing?
Speaker: Yeah, I didn't say that I'm appreciated in my own time, but one day, one day. One day. When you die and we ascribe a birthday to you like Shakespeare.
Speaker: What's your top field? um Okay, top field, physically, probably... ah
Speaker: There's some nice fields around my parents' house that I enjoy walking through, one of which is full of llamas. Have you seen that one? and We walked past that one, yeah. Yeah, so that's probably my top field. do you often walk through it when I'm staying at my parents' house and just need a little bit of space. Just bit of a boost.
Speaker: Exactly. a field-based boost. um in terms of my top personal field um it's hard to say because I feel like everything that i know a bit about it just makes you realize how much you don't know like how much is left to know in that so profound like I would say pottery because compared to the average person like I know a lot more about like glaze chemistry and firing temperatures and that kind of thing yeah yeah But I just now know how much I don't know.
Speaker: So honestly, i don't know if I have a top field. oh my gosh. I'm having a crisis. I have no fields. You're fieldless. I'm fieldless. um Yeah, pray for me, I guess. I think you can have ceramics as your field. Thank you, that's kind.
Speaker: uh lost another member of the dingles in the past couple of weeks yeah i love your face we've lost no uh you didn't so true i thought meant someone had died oh right no he might as well have done though um the yeah so he went he flip-flopped he flipped up this flipped and he flopped that is so true um He's like, I can't go because I forget his mum would be too sad or something. Yeah. And Jacob was livid at the idea that he was not leaving. you know what mean? He was like, have to go. wrote down a few choice things of this continuation of the dynamic we spoke about last week that everybody is actually desperate for him to leave because Noah said, I'm not going anymore. And Jacob shouted, what? And was clearly completely incensed at the idea that one of his closest friends was not going to move abroad. Yeah, is the worst thing that's happened to him. And he's had more than his mum dying, I think. You have to get out. You have to go. then They're talking about it again Noah says to Jacob, oh, I just don't really know how to tell Charity. Charity's his mum, isn't he? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, isn't she? Yeah. And Jacob was like, no, I think after the time that she's had recently, this will really put a smile back on her face.
Speaker: she weeks She's desperate to be rid of you. Everybody wants you gone. And then in the end, despite the flipping and the flopping, Charity forcibly chucked him out of his family home to get him to leave. Like i was chucked out of my house once, like as a teenager. And now it's your turn.
Speaker: That's true. It was a weird comparison, which is like, I had to turn to prostitution. So so now it's your turn. Although I was also thinking when like he first told Charity about it and she was like, oh well, where are you going to live? Oh, blah, blah.
Speaker: knows like, oh my German employees are going sort out my accommodation and they're sorting out my visa. And I thought, I'm getting modern day slavery alarm bells ringing. That's so true because we know that Noah is a like mediocre electrician. like He always just seems to turn off we like, a genome I know, can't fix it. yeah I don't know why he'd be headhunted by Dosseldorfian company who then are so desperate him that they accept him like flip-flopping. They're I mean, what company gets your accommodation for you? I think it feels a bit like, you know when workplaces deliberately send out an email that looks like a scam just to like see how many of their employers will click on the link and they can be like, you're really bad at telling about scams, by the way. It's like the Emmerdale writers are doing that to us. Like we just did modern day slavery for like upwards of six months.
Speaker: If you can't spot the warning signs. that's on you now then that's now on you like who should we be telling that i guess this is quite public like forum but should we be emailing in like by the way we can tell the signs and we are like praying for noah it's like when nurses or doctors email and be like i spotted a mole on one of the actors and they should get it checked out we should be like we are concerned for noah's welfare is everything okay in germany like is anyone gonna do a welfare check Yeah, he's just because he's just going to trundle up to the airport and that's the last I'll ever ever see of him. But also, he won't cross their minds again. Yeah, they do appear to forget that he exists all the time, which is a lovely segue into
Speaker: Elliot. Elliot returned. Okay, I had never heard of Elliot. didn't know Elliot existed. And then suddenly, amidst the Jimmy Nicola storyline, which by the way, i hate, Nicola was like, we're getting old. Elliot's on his like way to moving out already. And I was like, who on earth is Elliot? You've never mentioned him. And I was trying to piece together who Elliot was.
Speaker: i So I get mixed up. I think Elliot might be the child that some woman had with Jimmy's sperm at a sperm donation thing. that Or like she accidentally got the wrong one and then then she died. i might be making all of that up or it might be someone else. Goodness. It sounds very likely in Emmerdale. It's one ones someone's where they just wanted to pad out the family. But also they do a lot of like padding out families, but then they don't use them for anything. Like Elliot's never done anything in this yeah entire time. Like when Nicola was like, I guess we'll find out now that he's getting his A-level results, whether that he really was working up in his room. And i was like, well, he certainly had a lot of time up there to work because he's never been witnessed outside of his bedroom before. And then he got into St Andrews, which is very competitive. He's very clever, apparently, was not the impression I got from the brief screen time that I saw of
Speaker: him. Yeah. I mean, gutting for that actor to never be mentioned and then have like five minutes on screen and then go to uni and presumably never be seen again. yeah I guess so. i assume he might he might be recast at some point and sent down. but Or maybe they'll send him back down after years' time. but When you say sent down, you mean he's going to prison? I just went back to the village. In a north-south sort of yeah down. But do also assume he will be sent down. Oh, he probably has been. Because I was thinking he was the one who took those inappropriate photos of Clemmie, but that was Carl, wasn't That was Carl, yeah who we also haven't seen for a while. Presumably he's revising for his A-levels. He'll be missing his brother desperately, I'm sure.
Speaker: Because they've got three children that we never see any ah for the apparently living there. They definitely live as if they're empty nesters. money is wild like why are you not taking advantage of having these teenagers in the cast and doing something with them i guess because then they'd have to pay them in a way yeah i guess it is the money thing it weird though like the main not weird necessarily but the main cast are all in their fifty s and they're the ones who get all the stories basically it seems like and then other than april and dylan True, they did have that in obviously a long-running one. And they were back back on the screen, speaking a bit gloomy this week again. It's like Dylan Smarver wants, babe. I know, but he has got a good little tan. I guess he's been on holiday. and I thought April's hair looked fantastic. It did look great, didn't it? So hopefully that'll give her pep in pepperist step. Did I ever tell you that I saw um Amelia Flanagan at a theatre? You did, yeah. Yeah, as an audience member.
Speaker: Yeah, on your roster. I didn't speak to her because I thought you are a literal child. I'm just having a nice evening with your parents. Her brother is in Coronation Street. might have been there wow yeah he probably was but i wouldn't recognize him because i wouldn't dare watch coronation street unfortunately it's not for us sorry carried out but um it did not launch us into coronation street watches in the way you intended uh so yeah we've yeah depleted king household and yeah the storyline where jimmy is some like some sort of lethario yeah dragging this necklace around
Speaker: Yeah, I don't really know what was going on there. Was that the necklace that um they thought he was giving someone else and now he it was for Nicola all along? Nicola yeah basically Nicola thought it was for Manpreet he thought that she was he was having an affair with Manpreet and I'm like excuse me Manpreet is too good for Jimmy how dare you and I didn't mention earlier I was I loved that we got some scenes of Manpreet mourning her friend and being yeah and it wasn't enough give her more but I thought even that scene where she was
Speaker: like when Lewis gave her a coffee and she was like, I didn't order this. I thought she did, so she conveyed so much to so little. Like she was so, like the shock and all that. And you know, I thought it was, look, make memory at the center of the show. I'm sick of saying it.
Speaker: I'm sick of hearing it. um But yeah, that was one of the things I wrote down. I thought Rebecca Sarka was amazing, especially when um Charity told her about the assault and like what that had been and that it was really awful. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. And she looked, oh no, that she was in the golfing outfit last week, maybe the last time, and she looked amazing. And it's like, Jimmy wishes, like, she's so out of his league. Yeah, she, obviously she's out of league, and I don't think she would ever consider him in any way, so. I'm quite surprised she wants to spend time with him on a golf of course, to be honest. Hey, don't be like that. Would you want to go golfing with Jimmy? Yeah, probably, i think it'd be fun. I mean, I don't think I'd want to go golfing with anyone. Yeah, I've never played golf.
Speaker: No, me neither. But but um maybe maybe he knows the time. I'm just going to hang out on the golf courses of Yorkshire and hope we bump into Manpreet and Jimmy. Yeah, I think it's it's inevitable at this stage. My boss plays a lot of golf, mainly in Yorkshire, so I'll ask him to look out for them. There you But yeah, I mean, she does always work well with whatever character she's paired with, it seems. And she I guess she doesn't have a type. Like, she sleeps with Ross. She was married, maybe, to Jay's dad She's like, any age. She was married to Jay's dad? Yeah.
Speaker: How old was he? i mean old. i think Wow. Yeah. Fair. Yeah, good fame, I suppose. In a way, yeah. Yeah, maybe they weren't married. don't know if they were married or not, but they were definitely together.
Speaker: like them. I know how it agrees. So the other big thing, I guess, we had a lot of big things, was a Billy's attack. Yeah, and I didn't really write anything about this um other than that I remain incredibly confused by Dawn's sort of like various approaches towards joe over the last few months like she's she was so convinced when she was telling billy that joe was a different person she was like no he's not like that and sort of mere moments before she was planning to leave him in that scheme with moira and then she never really changed her mind or certainly not on screen and then suddenly she's in love with him again she's like no he's not a liar he's great and then it really didn't take much
Speaker: To be like, oh, he is a liar and I will in fact leave. I'm so confused. Yeah, and I feel sorry for um the actress or Olivia trying to like play this because she she must be like, what is my motivation in this scene? Am I still mid-ploy? Am I like three ploys deep at the moment? like Maybe she's triple crossing everybody, but I don't think she is.
Speaker: Yeah, baffling. she's yeah So I guess she is going to leave with her entourage of children. But we haven't had any rumours that Billy's leaving, so what's going on? I don't know.
Speaker: But have you noticed that the um sort of cover art for the season has changed? And it's now like she's in the wedding dress and Joe and Billy are both behind her.
Speaker: yeah And they've done a little trailer based on that as well, actually. i Really? I haven't seen that. Yeah. I just wondered whether like something was going to kick off at the wedding. And like, surely like she's obviously going to be trying to make a decision between them. And like, maybe she'll just choose neither of them and she'll just run.
Speaker: Maybe, maybe she like maybe she'll find out that Billy's lying and like trying to frame Joe when it wasn't even him. It's true because yeah at first I wasn't sure if Billy was lying but obviously we now know he is lying about remembering it being Joe. I think he doesn't remember who it is but but he so he's just saying it's Joe. Yeah I don't know if he remembers who is but yeah he certainly doesn't know that it was Joe.
Speaker: Yeah, so, um yeah, interesting. I assume Clemmie is, like, planning the wedding for them or something, she's I mean, someone's got to be planning it for them, because Belle doesn't appear to be doing her job. no um and I guess Olivia does... Olivia, Dawn does supposedly work for this wedding planning company, but... Yeah, that's true. So I guess she could be pulling her weight in some regard. but I'm sure she isn't.
Speaker: um Yeah, interesting. I also enjoyed a scene which had Ryan, Eric, Kerry, Laurel and Bob discussing Jotay to rest and it was very much we need to give all these actors their mandated episode this fortnight. It was the old gang back together again and know that. Where was Rodney is my biggest question. That is true. He obviously does not have a minimum number of episodes he needs to do. He just turns up at the village every now and again and they're like, do you want to be in a scene? Do you want to be in scene? you want to do some A-levels or something? You've been revising for your A-levels really, really hard, so we will give you a scene now.
Speaker: As a treat. Yeah, so it is all quite confusing. um And obviously Joe is, for once being honest, and maybe his like whole like trying to be friends with Billy thing is real as well. I don't know. But he seems to have moved on from them kissing each other or Billy kissing her.
Speaker: Everyone's kissing each other. joe and Billy can't stop kissing. That kind of thing. Twist. um I did enjoy a scene where Joe said, do you ever feel like the walls are closing in on you while staring out of the fourth wall? It's like, joe there's no wall there at all.
Speaker: You've broken through each and every one of them. but It's interesting that Kev did it when he's like supposedly trying to be on the straight and narrow now, but also knocked somebody out. Wasn't that horrible man, can't remember his name, also on the CCTV? Steve. Yeah, I presume that they would he just ended up kind of like unable to they noticed Stephen was like fine I'll just do this job and then it all got out of hand they weren't expecting Billy there and he just like attacked him and that was that yeah I guess so it's interesting that the police just take Caleb's word for it that the CCTV is missing and when Ruby can find it on their own laptop yeah so true they didn't look very hard did they because i mean it could have been Caleb who'd done it and he could have been like no oh yeah no she's so yeah yeah it's nice to see more of Ruby again I love her Yes, and now she's maybe blackmailing into doing crimes. I don't know what the crime is, that she wants she wants to steal from the haulage company or something?
Speaker: I don't know, which is interesting that Home James is making an appearance because I hadn't really ever heard of Home James before we went on the tour and it was mentioned there. And um yeah, I was like, what the heck is Home James? And now it's getting a resurgence.
Speaker: And it used to be quite a big thing, but now they don't care. But yeah, but Ruby must be so bored that she is leafing through the accounts for it, which apparently that she's an investor in, I'd forgotten that. Oh, I didn't know that either. or that's dominican tower She does so many things. She's running a wine enterprise. She's leafing through accounts. She's framing people. she's She's a busy gal. yeah Women can have it all.
Speaker: Women in STEM.
Speaker: Yeah, amazing. um But yeah, Kev has sworn it off. Kev is going a good boy now because he wants to be a good dad. That's sweet. The bike stuff was fun. Yeah, the bike stuff was fun. it was I did think, well done to the actor, was it is it Chris Coghill, for trying to pretend not to not to know how to ride a bike when yeah obviously he would know how to ride a bike. I was going to say looked too much like someone who doesn't know who does know how to ride a bike pretending they don't know how to ride a bike. Yeah, he was obviously trying.
Speaker: it was trying I think I've not ridden a bike since I was 14, so I suspect I would give a good impression of not remembering how to ride a bike on account of not remembering how to ride a bike. Fair enough. yeah And I weirdly was looking through some old videos on my phone yesterday and discovered one where my mum is getting onto a bike and it does look like she doesn't know how to ride a bike.
Speaker: It's big twist. Yeah, huge twist. Maybe she never learnt. Yeah, interesting. I also thought they're really loving drone shots at the moment. That's true, I did really like the one after, i think most specifically want to maybe it's something, when they like all the crime scene and stuff and the police cars and people wandering around.
Speaker: It's quite fun. um And yeah, then obviously like zooming out on Kev and Lewis lying in a field. Yeah, that was sweet. And Kev apparently setting him a marriage fund for Lewis. Yeah, with I guess that's why he's going to eventually say yes to Ruby's schemes because he's like, I have to pay for this wedding. A wedding that may or may not have on itself. Because, I mean, Lewis and Vinny aren't going to get married. I know, and they barely know each other now.
Speaker: And also Lewis has parents who presumably will fund it. I keep thinking that like him just being like, wow, I'm doing all this dad stuff with Kev. I'm like, you literally have parents who brought you up. Yeah, and you don't ever see them. Yeah, never. Not once. though I did read an interview with him the other day.
Speaker: or bit of interview where they said well he said um he wants his parents to be in the show and he'd like maybe we'll find out why he's called barton because he shouldn't be called barton it's like thank you for acknowledging that thank you so much yeah so true so maybe he has a troubled relationship with them although he does keep saying that likes his parents i don't think he does have a trouble relationship with them it's probably the one person in his life he doesn't have a troubled relationship with yeah they cut They didn't notice him being a cannabis farmer, I guess. That's true. Eye off the ball at that point.
Speaker: Something I was thinking about in terms of off-screen family, like doesn't Billy have a mum or a family or something? and like Is she just going to be like, where have you gone? Yeah, mum used to be with Marlon. Yeah.
Speaker: Someone was saying i Reddit, actually, like why if they never like used that connection with Marlon between, why Billy and Marlon could have had some sort of relationships to make him bit more integrated into the show. but Yeah. h We haven't seen Marlon for a while, I guess.
Speaker: Well, I guess we saw him pop up when Billy went to hospital. Oh, that's right. because so Oh yes, because he got phoned then. Yeah, because that was like the one time they've ever interacted on screen. Also, that was, I think, the weakest link Mac's deductions was when he was like, why do you use your only phone call to phone Sarah? It's like, well, because she was just being traumatized by police. Yeah, I think that's actually fair. Yeah, that is not, I mean, you're right that she's lying, but that is not a reason why. Yeah, that's not really a clue. Yeah.
Speaker: um I think I'm down to strays, but actually before, oh, unless you've got more before we get to strays. No, i and actually, i don't even have any stray things to say. Yeah. yeah Well, before we do strays, i will just mention an email we got from a listener a while ago which we actually got during our gap, which why I didn't use it. So they've asked be anonymous, but I thought it interesting take. So they say, my biggest ick with Amadale is the lack of family slash realism. I know there are rumors they want to strengthen the Tate and Sugden families, but you just need to look at the likes of Eric and Jacob who live in the barn conversion near the Dingles, but also have the house upstairs of the shop.
Speaker: Surely it would make sense for Emmerdale to create a new family to run the shop. I know the producers created the Milligan family, but they are still linked to both the Tates and the Dingles. I think the producers should bring in a new family that aren't inbred to the rest of the village and take over the shop. Thoughts?
Speaker: um Well, I know... I think what you're going to say, which is that Cammy's family should move to the village. Cam-Fam. Cam-Fam. umfi i' love the Cam-Fam. i'd love a new, maybe a widow, the widower with some 20-something kids to move in and have a romance with. You know it.
Speaker: Manbreed. Yeah, no, of course you would. yeah She can kick Ryan out the house. So rude. they move um I forgot they live together. That's so weird.
Speaker: So does everyone else. So they will forget. and But yeah, I mean, a new family would be good. I think people in soaps tend to warm to new families much slower than to individual characters. Yeah, I guess it feels like quite a lot to take on. And it's like, why should I care about this whole new unit? I don't know. But it's true, I don't think we have had a new family that wasn't related to anyone else since, don't know, the Shamas? and That was a million years ago. That can't be true. But um I can't think of any. Or maybe like Charles and his mum and his son when they came in. Maybe two sons.
Speaker: Yeah, didn't they both die or something? Yeah. it were Ethan died when we first started watching. Yeah, I think the other one had to leave for race, not for racism. For something. He did something bad on Twitter, I forget. Or was that Billy's brother? Maybe that was Billy's brother. I guess that was a new family. So they have brought in new families occasionally, but they tend to like kill off all but one of them and then leave one behind. Yeah, I mean, it would be good. But i think in an era when they're like cutting back on cast...
Speaker: I do think we're going to get a new family anytime soon. Yeah, I think a whole new family would be quite an investment, but it would be fun. And I definitely see that, like, do we really need to keep on resurrecting old characters or being like, This is someone who it turns out had a secret cousin. You could just bring in some fresh people. That's fine. And it would be nice for Jacob not to have to run the shop whilst also being a doctor because that is quite lot. Yeah, that is quite crazy, isn't it? Bless him. He definitely doesn't actually have time for any of this.
Speaker: No, he doesn't. Especially because he's a new father. That's true. Bless He can't be sleeping at all. um And Eric should retire. So yeah, someone else does need to come in. Yeah, that's a really good point from our anonymous emailer.
Speaker: Yeah, we should maybe should give them a false name. um Gerald. Gerald. Thanks, Gerald. Thanks, Gerald. If you've got anything you'd like us to share on the pod, dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com. We haven't traditionally read our emails, but let's start. Why not? Yeah, let's start. And if you want it to remain anonymous, simply sign it Gerald. Yes. um Speaking of people in the shop, actually, there was a love, one of my stories was a really lovely scene between Kerry and Kyle I know that was so nice when Kyle was like Moira wants to adopt me do you think that's okay and that was so lovely and of course he wants to go and ask his gran if his's she's okay with it yeah I think that's really nice and I love the fact that Moira is adopting him I think that's really special that is lovely yeah um and I guess quite an easy process in that
Speaker: in that sort of setup, obviously adoption can be very complicated. but in that world, I... Yeah, I have no idea, to be honest, what it would be like in that situation. But you'd hope that they would see, like, the logic of, like, you basically are functionally already his stepmother, so... Yeah, and actually one of the more stable relationships in Emmerdale, despite the number of affairs and...
Speaker: banfires etc because i think mostly if i was in charge of adoptions and i went to my dad i'd be like your marriage is definitely not going to last more than two years so yeah sure this is wise but yeah yeah although i don't know i mean moira has been to prison quite recently and there's always something kicking off do you not think social services would be like Is this the best place for you? Actually, rather than you adopting him, we have decided to take him into care. so Yeah, exactly. Like, maybe you should just, like, continue to fly under the radar of social services rather than alerting them to your unhinged life. Yes, adri actually.
Speaker: Yeah, Moira. Just knock off a certificate in Canva and pretend you've adopted him. He literally won't know the difference. He won't know, bless him. That would be quite a bad thing to claim to a child. in It would.
Speaker: It would. And I guess Isaac is already has already had biological science and i get I sort of get confused. as too I can really see that being the storyline of like Mora being like actually... it's just going to be easier if we don't, but we can convince him that we are, i am his legal guardian. and then like five years later, he'll be like, you were never actually my legal guardian. Yeah. I'm sure they'll bring that out at some point.
Speaker: Um, I forget. I can't imagine why, but yeah. Why not? I suppose. well not She never really existed. It was a figment. She was a hallucination the whole time. Exactly.
Speaker: ah She was a mist. She was a mist. More of the mist.
Speaker: A Scottish mist, if you will. Yeah, a Scotch mist. Scotch mist. What does Scotch mist mean? i don't know, but it's definitely something, isn't it? Is it just like a type of weather? Like, when I was growing up, whenever I couldn't find anything in the house, and I'd be like, mum, where's this? And it was right in front of me.
Speaker: She'd be like, there it Scotch mist. It's a thick drizzly mist of a common kind in the Scottish Highlands, but also a slang expression for nothing at all. Oh. gently Your mum was misusing I'm sorry to say. I think she was probably misusing it on purpose because thought was like a funny pun. She's not wrong. But just really knew what meant.
Speaker: I had that when my parents used the word creveen for my childhood, meaning both a ravine and a crevasse. But I just thought creveen was a word because why wouldn't I? Yeah, why wouldn't you? Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. say paris slide is about um Sorry, your trauma is off the scale. Social services are coming along at any moment. We're taking this 40-year-old man into care.
Speaker: We've heard about the Cravine and we're so sorry. Yeah, retrospectively dissociating the two of you. um Cornflakes in prison, I wrote down.
Speaker: so Okay. Turns out Cornflakes isn't a brand name, I guess. So... Yeah, it would sweeten the deal, I guess, if you were in prison. That's what Jacob, Joe, was offered.
Speaker: Oh, really? I thought it was... Oh, yeah, of course. I guess police sell or not prison. but He was like, I can't eat this food, let me go home. Exactly, need kedgeries. Which I fear would be my attitude as I'd just be like, ooh, the thing is, I'd rather do intermittent fasting for another day than eat that. And the coffee here looks terrible. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, I was raising with a friend who just read a book about prisons the other day, like, can could I be vegetarian in prison? And it turns out you probably could. So that's nice. Yeah, I mean, surely they have to cater for all sorts of dietary requirements. Yeah, same.
Speaker: So something to consider. Yeah, something to consider. Yeah, I know you have been planning to go to prison, but maybe it's just something to bear in mind. Like, it might not suit you as well as you think. Just bit of me time. Yeah.
Speaker: I think the last thing you'd get there is solo time unless you did enough to warrant solitary confinement. Can you imagine you like kicking off the prison so that you could finally go to solitary? Can you request solitary confinement? Be like, I didn't actually want to be around these people. the They're criminals. Can't you see that they're criminals?
Speaker: Just give me some books from the library and I'll go in solitary for four years. It's fine. Yeah, I think you'd be such a good librarian. I mean, because you have been a librarian. I have been a librarian. It's true. Yeah. Yeah. The ideal, obviously, is that i don't go to prison, but it's good to know I've got options. You've got so many options. They're not going to make you eat meat, and hopefully you can read some books on your own. Yeah. It's very much like my current life.
Speaker: It's almost like you're in a prison of your own making. i guess no man is on island. unrelated thanks for saying it just something to consider um my final stray is that they are obsessed with yoga it turns out so in two different places we saw posters for senior yoga classes and for parent and baby yoga Wow. And wasn't there yoga with Ashley from Beyond the Grave as well? i think there was. So at any age, living or dead, you're doing yoga in that village. it It's actually compulsory. Maybe that's why new people aren't moving in. They're like, I can't cope with the yoga demands. can't. I haven't got time in my day for the number of yoga classes I'm expected to attend.
Speaker: I'm not really allowed to have a job. I'm going to have to live with a complete stranger who I've never met and do yoga three times a day. Yeah, you can see why it's not for everyone. Sounds awful. Yeah, who's going to these parent and baby yoga classes in Emmerdale? What babies are them? Well, I guess there's Layla. It's maybe just Layla. Sarah and Layla are, you know, that like that yoga class rests on their backs and they've got enough on as it is.
Speaker: Yeah, gosh, it's no wonder they're cracking under the pressure. Wouldn't that be funny if that's the way the whole thing comes out when like turns out the parent and baby yoga class is really assiduous and doing DNA tests to check that you're really a parent and baby before you come to this. And they're like, it it turns out you're not her parent. You can't come to the class. Yeah. Or like, actually we invited charity and Ross. They're so funny. I feel like someone who, I can't remember who does doesn't know at this point, but it turns out they like just,
Speaker: I'm running the class for some reason it's like I do take this I've got I've taken my yoga code of ethics extremely seriously and it has to be biological parents and weirdly conservative when it comes to that yeah sorry about that none of the doctors here are sticking to the Hippocratic Oath but I will not let non-parents into this class so and then we'll have scene of Ross and Charity doing some lovely yoga it'd be lovely oh there's an alarm going off outside can you hear that oh it stopped I do think I could hear it.
Speaker: Great. I think Zencastr is quite good at editing out bits and bobs. Yeah, non-spawn, but it's quite good. Yeah, well done them. I mean, it'd be nice if got some spawn at the end the day. Yeah, if we were Zencastr, want spawn us.
Speaker: Filly boots. um Random and character generator. Random and character generator, which I have now deleted Noah from the list, so we definitely won't be getting Noah. I think we've had him before anyway, right?
Speaker: No, he was still on my list. Oh, fair. But we are doing Paddy. Oh, we haven't seen Paddy in a while, have we? That's true. He must be on a break. Yeah, because he did have a lot on, I guess. so Yeah, he did a lot for a long time. And I think he... Well, um Dominic Brunt. That's his name, isn't it? Yeah.
Speaker: I get confused because i went out with a guy called Ian Brunt. And sometimes in my mind, I get mixed up between David Brunt, who was Ian's dad, and Dominic Brunt, who plays Paddy. I can never remember which one's which. um Yeah, Dominic Brunt, I think, is a very versatile actor because he obviously does a lot of comedy stuff, like historically with Marlon, and we see glimpses of that now.
Speaker: And like his dynamic... with Mandy is often quite lighthearted and fun. But then obviously he's been thrust into some really like long-term traumatic plot lines as well. And he does really well in those.
Speaker: So I think, yeah, well done to him. He does a lot. Yeah, I think I like you. I like his comedy stuff. I wish you got a bit more of that. Maybe we'll get more of the Marlon and Paddy comedy because they've got such good timing with each other. It works really well. I do miss Paddy and Rona being a couple. I really like that. I thought they worked better than the couples that they currently got lined up. That's interesting. Well, maybe it's on their horizons. Maybe it will be. We don't know. guess because Mandy's such a big character that Paddy sort of fades next to her. Yeah, true. um we've talked before about how we want more of the paddy aaron relationship which did come back for a bit and then seem to disappear again uh because that was such an important thing one point in the show and we didn't see as much of it but think he's done really well to be this central to the show when he's not obviously he's now married into the dingles but for a long time he was sort of on the peripheries of like he wasn't in any of the families when he was with Rona, they obviously weren't part of any these big families. I'm trying to think who else is.
Speaker: Oh, he was with Chaz for a while. So that was another dingle. But yeah, he's clung on when he didn't have like an established family. um and for some reason, we need three vets in this village, which does seem over-calvert.
Speaker: Yeah, maybe. Although I guess it does sort of serve other places, doesn't it? They're always driving off to Houghton and that kind of thing. But yeah. um Gosh, talking of vets, did tell you I went to a dissection in Skipton? What? Why?
Speaker: One of my housemates famously is a farmer. Of course. she gets invited to these events run by, not again, Sponcom, but um Cars Billington, the agricultural suppliers. um And it's always just like her and loads of like Yorkshire farmers. And it's a really funny dynamic and you get free dinner. And she was like, do you want to come? to a dissection i've been to like a lecture with her there before and then this is just a live sheep dissection like it was like a post-mortem hopefully not a live sheep dissection hopefully sheep was dead it was a post-mortem on a dead sheep um and it was a lot it was quite visceral there is nothing i would less like to go to why did you go to that
Speaker: It was really interesting. it's disgusting. It was also disgusting. And at various points, I was like, I'm finding this really interesting because he was like talking about the different things in the body and like what you could tell about the sheep's life from how they looked.
Speaker: um But even though I was finding interesting, I also was like close to fainting. I was like, Anna, I'm like quite dizzy and I can't really see any anymore, so i might you just have to tap out a little bit and take a break. And the smell was overwhelming. Oh gosh.
Speaker: but it was also just quite funny because we'd all just been eating like sandwiches and having cups of tea and stuff. And like some people hadn't quite finished their dinner and like went into the dissection room with their sandwiches. and I was like, surely you're not going to want to eat that right now. wow I just don't know why this exists at all, let alone why you went. That's the wildest thing. It's really interesting. You need to be educated on stuff. It was really cool because he was being like, when you like inject sheep in this way, this is why like you shouldn't do it here because you can see that like you're going to bring this bit of tissue into that part of its body and it can go straight into the vascular system and into its brain and like this kind of thing. It was really cool. I mean, and were I ever to inject a sheep, I suspect I'll live it life without doing that. i was yeah to so alive I was the only person to sit out the dissection in GCSE biology. They're like, you can leave if you want to. And unless I was like, I don't need to see this. I deeply want to Thank you.
Speaker: But speaking of farming, I don't think there was any farming content that I can think of. Yeah. Apart from that mention of the top field you that you said. the top field. I've just given us quite a lot of farming content, I guess. You have, actually. That's more farming content than we've had for a while, and I hated it. So sorry. it' that It's like a lovely little treat slash punishment for the few people that will probably listen to the very end of this episode.
Speaker: Oh dear. Let us know if you've got any sheet dissections in your area. You don't want to know that. No, I don't. Keep it to yourself. Well, thanks everyone for listening.
Speaker: Yeah, thanks so much. Love you all. Love you all so, so much. In a way. a way. Was that just directed at Sherbs? If you're listening, Sherbs, we love you.
Speaker: Bye. Bye.
