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NFL Tyreek Hill Detained | Boxing Canelo Alvarez + UFC 306 Reviews | Music Kendrick Lamar vs Lil Wayne | NBA Shaq vs Rudy Gobert | Sports Media Paul Pierce vs Shannon Sharpe (***EXPLICIT CONTENT***)
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BALL & BUDS' BANTER, BRAWLS & BRAVADO #7 - Watch on #youtube - /@ballandbuds
Featuring Street Professor, Clubber D the Combat G, Detroit Mel & Wild Card Mar
Boxing: Canelo Alvarez vs Edgar Berlanga Review
UFC 306 Noche: Sean O'Malley vs Merab Dvalishvili Review
NFL Superbowl Halftime Show: Kendrick Lamar vs Lil Wayne
NBA Shaq vs Rudy Gobert - Worst Player EVER?
College Football: Derrick White vs CSU Fans
Sports Media: Shannon 'Unc' Sharpe vs Paul 'Truth' Pierce - Best IG Live?
Controversial Topic of the Show: Tyreek Hill & Police Detainment
#sports #entertainment #boxing #mma #ufc #combatsports #nfl #football #nba #basketball #collegefootball #cfb #cfp #ncaa #music #hiphop #media
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:02
Speaker
Yo, yo, yo, what up, friends? Welcome to Ballin' Buds, Banter, Brawls, and Bravado. Thank y'all for tuning in. As always, we really appreciate you. And you know today we got an episode full of the most controversial topics going around sports, pop culture, the internet, all of that good stuff.
Guests and Partnerships in Sports Media
00:00:26
Speaker
I am your host, Omar, the Street Professor for second. I got two of my Uh, really, really great. Uh, well, one is a really long time friend. The other one is a great streaming partners. Hopefully another long time friend in the future, but you really great people that we got on today and then some others joining, uh, in a little bit. So first, oops, I forgot to put that stream i over overlay up, but first let me bring in ah my brother from another.
00:00:50
Speaker
known him for a long time. He is the combat sports insider UFC boxing. He partnered with me yesterday ah in partnership with Skywalker boxing media. Shout out to them and the country box event yesterday. My brother, how did you like that? I saw you on commentary.
00:01:08
Speaker
How do we feel? Oh, it was fun. I love that that that. That is fun. I'm glad ah Skywalker reached out, you know, linking up with him, ah Josh, and Ernest from 86Box. And you know that we have fun doing the country box. I need to come down there. You don't understand. I might jump in a ring. You never know. I'm not going to fight. I just want to jump in and jump out. You know what I'm saying? It's a world of rubble and just get in there, do a clothesline or something, and get up out of there, you know?
00:01:29
Speaker
Look, all I got to say is if you jumped in there, you may be more well qualified from some of those boxers that were in that ring last night. Well, well shout out to you because you were able to secure interviews with the fighters, the the owner. You got an interview with Christy Martin and Albert Hainsworth, who was doing guest commentary there as well. Yeah. Yeah. Check your boy. Omar's killing it down there. All right.
00:01:53
Speaker
i Thank you my friend. I appreciate you hyping me up there. I really appreciate that. Yeah, it was cool I actually got to kick it with crispy Martin and talk with her for like 30 minutes heard her Pomeranian We were just she was like talking to me off the record about all the box and stuff She thinks so I think if we're gonna make ah good friends there me and her and then next we are going bring in our boy You know him well here on ball and buds channel from IOW Sports Network our brother Wild Car Mar. What is good? What is good? What is good? Man, you already know what it is, man. Here we are, another B and&B IOW sports collaboration, man. we A, it's it's ah it's a domination. We about to take over the podcast game, man. I better pay attention. Pay attention. Always a pleasure to be here with my bros.
00:02:42
Speaker
Tell them. Nah, say it louder for the people in the back. We are going to the top and y'all better know that we are going to be there and y'all are going to see us up there. We all going to be there together. That being said, go ahead and promote all your channels, my brother, please.
00:02:54
Speaker
Nah, no doubt. um Obviously I do do a lot of collaboration so shout out to all my people I collaborate with my man Bobby G audible podcast 613 faith productions over there ah with the man cave sports podcast as well as in the four corners of wrestling.
00:03:11
Speaker
my mayor ro and cen Always a pleasure to tap in with him. Yeah, man. But hey, like I said, it's a B&B and IOW sports collaboration. So shout out to my IOW family. Shout out to my brother, Clubber D, Omar. Like I said, it's a world domination, man. We about to take it over. You better get with it. Shout out to Mr. Martin. I can't forget about my name. Yeah, Tony, my man Tony. I haven't seen him in a while.
00:03:34
Speaker
Yeah, he good people's man, ah man down sports, man. Like, hey, just going over to my Twitter page, man. i Like I said, I got more podcasts than Jamaican got jobs, so check in with me, man. I mean, if you ever turn the turn to YouTube on, you may be liable to see Wild Car Mar talking because he is usually on there ah multiple times per day, per week. So he is a working man's man. And I like that a lot. So appreciate that pause. We're going to get a lot of that pause today, I'm sure, because it's not just going to be sports topics we talk about today. We got a lot of different things we're going to touch on. oh No, no, no. But did he did it? So I'm going to say.
00:04:09
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And then we're going to be joined in a little while as well by our other IOW sports partner, uh, Detroit Mel, and then hopefully our bottom line sports partner can team wanted to join. So he might even jump on. So we'll see that. Make sure you all subscribe and join at the bottom line sports on Facebook to stay tuned with that. And as well, you know, ball and butts.
00:04:33
Speaker
B-A-L-L-A-N-D-B-U-D-S, subscribe on YouTube. ah Thank you, Flo, for sharing on the bottom line sports page. So if you're subscribed there, you can see it there. If not, you can go subscribe and watch it there. All right, let's jump into this, get this started, because we got football in a little bit.
UFC Fight Analysis and Boxing Discussions
00:04:49
Speaker
So first of all, huge fight weekend. This weekend, we had the UFC 306 Noce in the spear, and then we also had had the huge kind alvare um versus uh, uh, Burlanga, Edgar Burlanga, uh, fight. So where do you want to start? Cobra D, you are a combat sports expert. Where do you want to start UFC or boxing here? Uh, we'll start with UFC. We'll start with UFC. So that was easier. All right.
00:05:20
Speaker
And so that we had two, we had the co-main and the main event there, right? And as most people would say, what to most people, there wasn't as much action as they would like. I will let you elaborate on that. But we had Alexa Grasso who lost her title back to the Queen, Valentina, Shevashenko, and A. and well i must I must boast you up as you boast me up, my friend. You were undefeated in your picks this weekend, undefeated.
00:05:50
Speaker
and i'll tell you i say know that sea o'malley take notes like oh yeah And then we Sean losing to the machine. I'm not even going to try that name on a decision of the cards 49, 46, 48, 47, 48, 47. Some people had some problems with that card or with those cards. did you How'd you feel about the fight and the UFC this weekend? ah It was pretty good. Pretty good card. I got a little echo. again There we go. um So I will say this about ah
00:06:22
Speaker
The card was pretty good. I think I forgot the young lady's name with the, with the big gash ah cut. She got like the jigsaw looking stitches through her face. um not kind of Her name's a drone, a drone a blank right now, but it's kind of what I called, um you know, I had thought of Violet Latina would win that, win that fight. She almost got caught in a lot of submissions, but she got out of them. Grasso just wasn't that aggressive. um You had Lopez basically a whoop up on my boy, my boy ah Brian Ortega. When he hit him with the hook,
00:06:52
Speaker
He knocked him out because as his knees started doing a Tootsie roll. And then when he fell down, he hit him again with the left and woke him back up. It reminded me of a fury going against a wilder in the first fight when he when he knocked him out and woke him back up for you before you hit the bat. What's his tale? You know, T City might be a laugh. And Marat, Jesus, I told everybody if O'Malley does not knock him out, he is going to get drug all five rounds. And the thing that he did after I think it was a second round,
00:07:21
Speaker
So in in the second round of the um the Aljo fight, O'Malley's corner was that light where was yelling out, go, Aljo, go, Aljo. So he'd stand up with him and and be open and get caught. They tried to have a Marat. That's why Marat was like, fuck you, fuck you after the first round, because they tried to bait him into getting wild and stand up with O'Malley because his wrestling is garbage. But you know what I'm saying? The fights kind of went the way I thought it thought they would go.
00:07:43
Speaker
But it was it was a good fight for good a good showing. The sphere looks amazing. I wish I was there. ah We need to tighten up on our budget so I can start going these fights again. But ah you know that it was it was it was a good card. Even though they had boxing down the street, UOC put on a good show. And a shout out to Dana White, because he just announced you're about to start doing boxing. Finally, he's jumping in that game. So ah yeah, UOC is on the up and up right now.
00:08:08
Speaker
Yeah, I must say. um I saw a little bit of the the actual pay-per-view and the presentation ah in the sphere in between rounds when the They're playing that Mexican themed independence video um and just how amazing it was to look at. Like when they had the landscapes and stuff, it actually looked like you were out there and eagles are flying above you and shit. So the spear in general was just an amazing just blow your blow your mind kind of shit. And then
00:08:46
Speaker
um ah the the The fights themselves obviously may not have lived up to everyone's hype, um but you know they were still there. Mark, did you have any thoughts on that 306 no chain this year?
00:09:01
Speaker
I didn't catch a lot of the ah action. um But the guy that I forgive me for not ah trying to pronounce his name, I don't want to butcher it up that he did sugar. Dallas wallet. Yeah, yeah, Dallas wallet. He reminds the machine. Yeah, machine. So he reminds me of a little bit of could be just a little bit and so when uh when i kind of was looking at his highlight table i'm like oh i'm not surprised he won he kind of reminds me of kabib it can be even in some of them uh uh crazy europeans that be out there in the middle of the woods fighting bears and shit i'm like i'm not surprised you so uh yeah um i he just because he kind of gives me that could be kind of uh uh
00:09:47
Speaker
similarities. I could probably see this guy holding on to that belt for a minute until somebody can figure out how to solve that jigsaw puzzle of his wrestling abilities. oh And it's going to be a minute before that, because we got to remember Khabib, but I mean, if he didn't retire and and walked away from the from the UFC, he probably could have hung on to that belt as long as he wanted, because his wrestling was that elite, it was that top tier. Like, if you don't get that guy, knock him out, um and you don't get your points in,
00:10:22
Speaker
um before the rounds end, man. This is a problem. so ah But no, um we'll see how long he's able to hold on to the belt. ah When you got elite wrestling abilities like that, man, it's it's kind of hard to defeat a guy so talented with with his wrestling skills like that. You got to knock his ass out. So if you don't catch him, good luck. So, but now UFC, I agree with you, Omar.
00:10:50
Speaker
The presentation in the spear was top notch. The way that they did the entrances, ah the way that the, you know, the guys were coming out to the ring and hey, they had the video package. The spear is amazing. I can't wait to get the Vegas and check that thing out for any kind of it that they got going on.
00:11:11
Speaker
It doesn't even have to be a UFC, just whatever event they got going on. It looks ah dope ah for real. So now UFC, ah ah a they play this smart because if if I correct me if I'm wrong club, they weren't even supposed to be in the sphere. It was a pivot and Dana White turned the and made the best out of that situation. So take it. Well, it was it was it was a big thing because They knew Canelo was coming to Vegas. But that was the only date they can actually get the sphere for. And Turkey Alashik, who was there in attendance along with Bud Crawford and Tia Pima Lopez, a lot of others out there. Is that Kendrick Lamar? You sure? Oh, I'm sorry. My bad. Kendrick was there. You know what I'm saying? He was next to Squareboy Q and all them. You know what I'm saying? Because they all look alike to me. You know, they all look alike.
00:12:00
Speaker
you know, but, uh, he was there next to, uh, Turkey on the sheet. He, so this was part of riders, uh, riders season, react season. So he, he, he, he, uh, basically is boxing Canelo out. Whenever Canelo has a card, he's going to put the money up to say, nah, nah, we got this. We won't take money from you because you're ducking parents Crawford. So he's going to keep doing stuff like this the next time Canelo fight somebody that's not named Terrence Crawford or, uh, David Benavidez. So, um, that was mad petty, but I love it.
00:12:30
Speaker
your but there's a fight who they need a fight um so they said they lost twenty million but at the gate i think they made like twenty two million at the gate so money there turkey show got that's a goaway one so That's exactly what I was going to say. they I remember we talked about that, how they were supposed to be losing the money, but I read that they made $22 million just like you at the gate. So put on an event like that costs a lot of money. So the fact that they even made their money back and could hold it there to have that spectacle allows them to now further expand their audience, um you know whoever may have
00:13:11
Speaker
You know been maybe a novice fan or a younger fan that saw that and I was like, okay all in on UFC um So turning going back around because we didn't get clever D your assessment of the boxing match Rad Canelo Alvarez in a one-sided decision over my Puerto Rican countrymen and brethren Edgar Burlanga from New York ah He got knocked down and everything. You know what still he's still Puerto Rican. He got knocked down and everything and It was 118 109 on two cards 119 110 a complete domination. What are your thoughts on that one?
00:13:48
Speaker
I'm going to jump out with reset my headset. I'm right back for first and foremost with it with that card, you know, Kayla plan and a terrible company put on a show. OK, that was the first time I still don't know the answer to this question. When is the the last time we had two American white fighters fight on pay-per-view against each other? You know, I'm still trying to figure that out and I'm i'm all for it. Hey, more white fighters come on out. You know, American fighters come on out. But they put on a show. That was a good fight. I said this. I thought that Danny Garcia's age being younger than Laura, even though they both were inactive, would he would win that fight. But I did also mention the guy already talked about quitting. And you saw what happened. He got popped upside his head, took a knee, went to the corner, told his dad, I'm done. I don't want to fight no more. So I kind of knew that was going to happen, you know because it's just is this thing with fighters. Whenever you start with this whole, oh, I don't need to do this no more. I don't need to fight. And then you take the time off and come back. The hunger is not there anymore.
00:14:47
Speaker
um but This fight was kind of what we thought. I mean, Burlanga, he never fought for a world title. He's never really fought nobody of note. Why he got to Canelo fight? Because he's easy, you know, easy person for Canelo to beat. Canelo hasn't knocked anybody out since 2019, so it's been a while. um He's, at stature, the smaller guy going up in this fight, but he's short and stocky, so they said he was Damn near he put on a 20, 25 pounds for this fight. essential say Yeah. And same with a Berlin. He came came in heavy too. So it's weird how these hydration clauses are for certain fighters, but Canelo just didn't care for this guy because he was out golfing more than he was even practicing fortify. So it's it's one of those things. Canelo, he's still top dog at 168 until he wants to fight somebody that
00:15:34
Speaker
will give him a run for his money. Right now, I think he's stuck between a rock and a hard place because he wants to fight the winner of Bevall and a better BF, but he doesn't want to do it at 175 once he got 168. And Bevall says, if I win, I want to fight your 168 for all the belts. He doesn't mention a better BF. He only mentions Bevall because he knows better be able to knock his block off. He might knock a freckle off.
00:15:56
Speaker
but It's Canelo's he's kind of stuck now. That's why he mentioned. Oh, I wouldn't mind fighting Conor McGregor or or ah Shake Paul or somebody like that. I got him. I will see that we don't See that crap man fight. No, that's wrong. It's money grab. That's a money grab That's that's if he fights Jake Paul or Conor McGregor. That's easily, not him taking an actual competitive fight. That's him taking a paycheck, bro. Nobody say. Canelo, Bud Crawford is in your fight in in and he's trolling you. Don't fight the man. What's your step up?
00:16:39
Speaker
What you scared of? Come on now. I mean, at this point, he's reached out. He has to, right? Like you can't just keep getting called out. I mean, he did. He did with Benavides. But I mean, come on now. Like you want to make money. That Crawford fight is a money fight. No, big money fight. Big money fight.
00:16:57
Speaker
Well, here's the thing with that, they say that cuz Crawford's moving up so so many weight classes, but Canelo did the same thing moving up for 160 to fight Kovalev. And he fought him at light heavyweight when he beat Kovalev, and that was 160 to 175. So I mean, that's 15 pounds. So we need to, Crawford's trying to do essentially the same thing coming up for 154. So the excuses are there for Canelo not to fight him, but what is your excuse of fighting Berlenga?
00:17:22
Speaker
Or, you know, some some British guy who, you know, shouldn't even get a title shot or, you know, it's just it works both ways with his excuses. But as long as the belts and the commissions allowed him to do it, we're stuck. We're stuck watching these fights.
00:17:37
Speaker
Yeah, it's that cherry picking crap that you just, um you know, Pat Patcher, your win-loss ratio, but we know damn well that the level of competition just ain't up to par. It is what it is. I mean, until they force these guys to to take the big fights. And that's what I miss about boxing, man. Give give me a, you know, I'm ah i'm a late eighties baby. So I remember when they in the eighties, that middleweight division was fighting the crap out of four Kings.
00:18:07
Speaker
Yeah, and they was just it didn't matter. You just you'd take the fight. Well, the the commissions, they get a percentage of these papers you buy. So each each belt. So each belt gets a part of Canelo's money. And that pay-per-view did they say 650. So they probably fluff those numbers. I would say they probably did like pride, you know.
00:18:26
Speaker
four or 500s maybe, but each commission, each belt gets percentage of that that purse. So they're not so quick to say, oh, Canelo will get you in in there with somebody that will whoop your ass because that person is not much of a draw as Canelo. So that's where the corruption is in boxing.
00:18:41
Speaker
Oh yeah, and you definitely don't wanna see Canelo lose to a guy that can't outsell or out, you know, get the numbers up there um because they're gonna look at him like, what you doing losing to this guy? Look at Dana White's face when he gave him a rock the belt. He was like, you don't beat my money maker. Dana White was hot.
00:19:02
Speaker
He like that man. Hell yeah, he was pissed son. ah Take this bill man. Get up. That's actually a great ah point and I forgot to. That's a great point. I forgot to ask that question to you. What is next for sugar Sean O'Malley who was proclaiming that he would be the face if he had this victory?
00:19:25
Speaker
No, and Dana. Hope I get another title shot or he'll move up to. I think it was 155 and get it and move up there. But you can't put him into there with Islam. Islam will knock the color her out of his hair. So, you know, I think he'll just stick around. He'll probably fight. ah If Dane doesn't give him a immediate rematch, he'll fight probably like Peter Yawn, somebody like that in the top five and then get back up in there with a rock. Yeah. Yeah. You got to get his confidence back. And a similar and a similar question. Who does?
00:20:03
Speaker
Yeah. Who does? And a similar question. um Who does? Who? No, my bad. A similar question. Who does Canelo? I mean. Oh, cano who's Canelo fight next? Did you hear me? No. Yeah. Should he start the proper fight or who do you think he fights?
00:20:21
Speaker
Oh yeah, we were like he already mentioned Conor McGregor like easy money. So for him to even mention saying that he would take a Conor fight means that either Conor McGregor, I heard rumors of Chris Eubanks out in the UK. Chris Eubanks Jr. fighting him over in the UK, you know, somebody that we don't want him to fight, you know, so if it's not better V it is, if it's not David Morrell, if it's not,
00:20:44
Speaker
ah Terrence Crawford, I don't care. that I mean, that's I think he really got, I think he got really got scared off by that bevel loss. I think that really like- He wants the winner, but only a bevel wins. He wants the winner. Right, but only, but- Yeah, he don't want better be there. I'll tell you, he knocked a freckle off him. He want to stay. He wants to tell you, be there, don't play. Your man's 20, 20 knockouts.
00:21:09
Speaker
What are the chances we get a Benavidez fight? And what are the chances we get a Crawford fight? Give me percentages on those. Uh, 5% Benavidez cause he already moved up. damn um He's already moved up. I mean, he was interim champion for three years. WBC never forced that action. I'll see them doing it now. Crawford, we got a better chance of Crawford's Turkey. All she has the money to call. Can I was bluff? Okay. All right, cool.
00:21:38
Speaker
That's what's up. Hey, and my bad on the unceremonious entrance there, Detroit, Mal was putting myself in and I actually hit you and put you in as well. say he's what is No big deal. No big deal. Everybody welcome from iowa hor up do our brother, Detroit male. All right, cool. Anything else? on box yeah News for you, sir. and That's a spot, man. That's a spot. What's that, Mike? Oh, no, no, no. I was i I was going to say if you had any other boxing or UFC news.
00:22:07
Speaker
Uh, only other boxing news I got last minute is Teofemma Lopez is kind of on that, uh... racist cheater um level when he was called uh gervonta davis and and terence crawford both monkeys oh no saying you know uh whichever monkey wants to grab the banana first is the person i'd fight so oh for them to let the last person do that crap now that people just thinking it's cool just talk about black folks like that that's why they should have been hard on on uh the racist cheater so yeah so he's he's about to get that work by somebody
00:22:39
Speaker
don't get that way So, so he's just Ryan Garcia part two now is exactly what he wants. He's already kind of hinted there when he was like. ESPN top rank only wants to promote the black fighters. He seems just saying that stuff. So now he's trying to nice buddy buddies with Garcia, doing all this stuff, trying to be relevant. So I guess he wants to get that work. His dad already got his hands put on for using the N word around Kishan Davis's crew and in the, in the, in the, um, the, uh, they were training and he tried to use the N word and they put them hands on them. So Hey, when, when, when will people learn you will steal the hell out for using the N word? Yes. Like I don't like, well, Ryan Garcia is taking, uh, videos with Cory S. John Jones. Like, so people need to regulate this behavior. So it won't keep happening where we are the only group that you can just talk about. It's cra oh and getting on. But, you know, yeah it we're not protecting on the streets. Don't try that. I was still not allowed for it. What?
00:23:44
Speaker
Oh, we don't play that. ah i Great. That's all I got. That's all I got. That's all I got. Okay. Hey, Detroit, tell everybody what you got going on before we get into
Radio Projects and Sports Contracts Controversy
00:23:53
Speaker
these other topics. I know you got a new project you're working on. I'm trying to fuck these hoes.
00:23:58
Speaker
yeah okay
00:24:02
Speaker
Not that project, sir. Oh, my bad. My bad. The wrong project. The wrong project, my bad. He took the oil. You're right. Baby Lotion, you got a new cabinet, baby. He got a yard sale going on with baby oil.
00:24:23
Speaker
No, I got the oil. Greenwater Network going on radio station. See, I got the hat going on. um We might be getting the hookup with Ricky Smiley. So we're looking at trying to get that connection. For the morning show? OK. We don't know yet. We we know somebody to know. So we're going to try to talk to them and see what we can get. All right.
00:24:46
Speaker
radio The radio station is partnering with him some kind of way or moving us to Sirius FM. So are we try to work on that. We got I'm working on an engineer in the morning show on the radio station. So I'm doing that engineer another show with Ladies Talk. So I've been doing like three or four different shows. I got my hat in. So I've been staying busy. Staying busy. Check us out. um You can download the app with your app store.
00:25:14
Speaker
on iOS or Android stores, Greenwater Network. If you like music, I got all types of music for music lovers. um Oh, I did a couple of live DJ sets on there. We got a live DJ one on Jamaica, Couple and Rocky Mount, a few other places across the country. So it's got a lot of different varieties. So talk shows, music, live DJ and more stuff to come.
00:25:41
Speaker
Yeah. And your boy street professor did a hip hop set on there. So you can check out my hip hop set. he did beautiful And I got a classic rock one coming soon. ah let's go um All right, cool. Well, thank you for that brother. All right. and So let's, let's move into some other recent topics in the NBA. This feud has been going on for a while now, but just this past week, they started to go back and forth a little more as Shaq and Rudy go bare.
00:26:10
Speaker
uh shack went on to uh call so let me just say i've got the article here i want to make sure i i quote him correctly he in august started when he called go bear the worst player of all time and suggested that he wasn't worth the 250 million dollar contract he's signed now whether i agree with that or not or whether anyone else agrees with that or not shack okay okay You can give it take a couple of dollars. I mean he he in the ballpark but i say so we're share like a begy portin yeah a But how far how far is he from some brother
00:26:56
Speaker
mean you know i own the same block they on the same block i mean he's where maybe only more
00:27:04
Speaker
He's not bad on defense. He's not, he's defense. He's just soft. just saw I mean, Sean Bradley was getting dunked on, ran by, I mean, at least I mean, i mean es go bear doesn't call him pick like him, Brendan Heywood.
00:27:18
Speaker
I don't know who let Sean Bradley in the league. I mean, you know, Sean has a hundred million dollar contract right now. If he's playing, I'll tell you that much. Yeah. Well, that's how tall he is. Yeah. they Yeah. George Mirosan back when me and Clever D were in DC. I mean, that's a scene that seems to be there's a couple of big pittacles out there, you know, there's a couple counts of my cousin Zach and made that up a lot of the pittacles out there.
00:27:47
Speaker
brendan haywood Oh yeah. He used to say that all the time when we go to Wizards games, that would be great. you hide Anyways, have be know who was the one that, who was that number one pick? The guy that never panned out. Andrew, Andrew, but was that button? No, that wasn't button.
00:28:05
Speaker
I wasn't buying them. You know, the one from one from Canada, the one from, yeah, Bennett Bennett. Yeah. Anyways, so go bear response. Yeah. So go there. Go bear response is sad to see that someone accomplished as much as you did in both the sport and business is triggered by another man's finances and accomplishments.
00:28:23
Speaker
to which Shaq just responded with earlier yesterday. A lot, or yesterday, I don't know why I said earlier. A lot of these big men, when I put out these challenges, they fail the test because they're sensitive. When I speak, I'm speaking facts. It may come out wrong, you may think I'm hating. What do you mean trying to stay relevant? I got 15 commercials, what the fuck you talking about? So. ah
00:28:48
Speaker
Yo, Ma, we haven't heard from you in a second. what it We'll start with you. What you think on this? Hey, Shaq can tell the truth, and which he is, but I'm looking at this both ways. Shaq is so accomplished NBA wise and professionally wise outside of the and NBA. You ain't got to respond or even i be intertwined in this situation. Like you're, you're, that you you're official. Now I do think he's, he's only
00:29:19
Speaker
Acting upon is just to be on some petty shit, which is, hey, it's entertainment for us. I like it. All right, I like it. It's entertainment. It's entertaining for us as sports fans that know Shaq from important days, watching him follow him on TNT. It's entertainment. But if you actually look at the grand scheme of things, he's so accomplished that he doesn't have to. I think this is just him bored. This is literally him bored.
00:29:49
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That's what I think it is. And Rudy Gobert is like, he's the low hanging fruit. So he usually gets a lot of shacks. That's what it is. And to be honest, if I'm Rudy Gobert, I would take it as a challenge to shut Shaq up. Because you've done nothing to shut him up. Because everything you've been saying, you've given him every ammunition and reason to say it. I mean, you got all this money. um Only thing I've seen you done is get dunked on nuts in your face and you get choked. There's nuts in your mouth. Well, he grabbed a bead like that. Like, bro, why are you grabbing a grown man? Like, what are you doing? Like, ah what are you doing? So like Brett, like, like, like even at the ah Olympics, like you said, he grabbed another man and put his nuts. Like, what are you doing? Like, the world's watching. Not in that region, but the world is watching.
00:30:40
Speaker
um So go bare, why don't you do something about it? Like take it as a challenge to shut Shaq up, but you keep giving them reasons to to to be petty with you. So, right um but hey, it's entertainment for Shaq. Like I said, he's bored and that's just what I see. So yeah, man, it's entertainment. It's hilarious though.
00:31:00
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I mean, it is hilarious. He is low hanging fruit, right? He's the easy target here. Um, and I wonder, and I want to, I'm going to, I want y'all to answer this too. We'll hit you next, Mel, and then get to club or D, but how much, how much does him being the COVID, uh, you know, uh, uh, first one, the, uh, the, the, the, the rat that, oh yeah. What do they call him? The, the, the, the, the,
00:31:24
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Round zero. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? How much does that contribute to people not liking him? I mean, it's probably started it because, you know, I'm going around touching all the mics and that stupid shit. You know, it is my thing, man. You can do stupid shit. And then when you win, it raises all that.
00:31:46
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When you play good, it erases all day. When you do stupid shit and then play like you're doing stupid shit, this happens. You know what I'm saying? You're doing stupid shit in some areas. So I think with Shaq, man, it's just like 50 cents. It's like the troll. You know what I'm saying? It's something we just like to troll. It's something I like to do. And then when you make it easy like this, you know, I'm going to take a swing, guys. Like you softball them in, I'm going to swing. Pause.
00:32:16
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You know what I'm saying? Reckless. Reckless. Clubber D, what you think about this? Uh, for real, for real, uh, somewhere, Javel McGee is like, finally, he's off. Jesus. He didn't talk about me no more. You know, he's saying he's like the worst in the league. And I would say also, uh, Greg Horsetag is like, woo. Greg Horsetag. Greg Horsetag.
00:32:45
Speaker
So who's the guy I had the jersey for? Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. Oh, Montrose. So Oh, Shaq, like Mel said, Shaq's just bored. Like Mel and Mario, y'all hit the nail on the head. Mont Shaq's bored and he put the bait out there. We're gonna go bare a bit on it, what he should do. Well, he's what, two times a defensive player of the year. You know, man, he's not terrible. He is a semi-force and a paint, but this is the era with no real big men. You know, what he should do is just,
00:33:32
Speaker
play better. Okay. Punch somebody in the face. Play better. Just play better. Just play better. What are you going to do? Yeah. He was training with serial gun, the French, uh, you will see heavyweight. They were sparring. They had video of that.
00:33:52
Speaker
he's yeah He's not, hard he's just, that was, how do we, core him about the last week? OK, how do we correlate then? Club or D and others? How do we correlate that he is so soft in the post but is yet one for defensive?
00:34:06
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player of the year awards style. I think it's the style of the game of European game over American game. Right. Over there, they actually play defense, but they don't really do post moves. You know what I'm saying? They don't really do post moves. They want to shoot, shoot. So his pride coming up, his, his fundamentals were just, I'm playing defense and my post was not going to be really sound.
00:34:28
Speaker
That's my opinion. Yeah, I agree with that. I think that that's part of it. And then in the game that we play now, you just take it, you plug it up the hole. No. Oh, that's all you do. know you're Right. The boss. The whole good, baby. Oh, hey. hey out the rails rail of is because that is is that didy meek mill
00:34:59
Speaker
my well where we got i we haven't even we haven't even gotten there yet we're not firing a san way let's move on to thisni I want to go. I want to go through this real quick. Did y'all see the Derek white incident?
00:35:18
Speaker
with Colorado State. Did y'all see that? Okay. I'm gonna bring up a square. No. So, he's in the stands. He's in the stands. Can y'all see this? Can y'all see this? Okay, you're not gonna be able to hear it but just watch it. So, he's in the stands and they're they apparently from the story of other people around him, Derek White have been talking trash as a Colorado fan to the Colorado State fans the whole game and apparently they started to get a little testy about it. So, watch this.
00:35:46
Speaker
a little feisty, huh? Boom. So he hits him with a backhand. Let's go back and see that again. The old man. Yeah. Oh, you got to be quick. You got to be quick. Ready? So I'm going to go back to the beginning. This old man right in front of him just hits him with a back fist. Whoa. Takes his hat off. Now look at, look at Derek White's boys though. They go hard for him. They ain't going to let the millionaire get messed up. You see that? Let me go back and let Scott, Scott and Zach running.
00:36:10
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yes scott yeah yeah gotten his back yeah things that did He didn't really, he didn't try to backhand him. He tried to use a marker, get the hairline. He tried to get that. Oh,
00:36:24
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that's what we try to do oh so what did we think about that? Craziness added game. What do y'all think about that? Let me go ahead and stop sharing. Well, I mean,
00:36:36
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They didn't treat Derek like he was Ash. They treat him like he was another fan talking shit. Right. So so is that ah is that fair game then? Because he's in the crowd with the the moment. a Hey, hey, hey, just like us. He puts it just like us. so date At that point, it's not about occupation. It's not about bank account. You in there talking.
00:36:58
Speaker
Yeah. You're right. You're liable to get these hands for a motherfucker. talk yeah I can tell I can tell my kids wherever you act as we get fucked up. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Run up to get done up all you want. run Right. done up Right. And I love how I love how it was like an old 50 year old white dude and then the part that got me to bed is work. I mean, Derek White needs to tip his boys because his boys went down and we're like, no, we ain't going to let you hang. it do We got to. Don't worry. Shout out to dead white boys because when when you were a public figure, that son eight sometimes it's better to have people on the payroll to handle situations for you than do it yourself. Yeah, he don't want to get arrested for assault or nothing like that. Get a lawsuit. You don't take that lawsuit. You don't take that assault charge.
00:37:47
Speaker
Hey, hey, don't worry, homie. I'ma bail you out if something really goes down. Don't worry. I got you. But now it's out to his boys handling that situation. But, uh, nah, man, hey, you don't get special treatment. You in the crowd talking shit, bro. You're liable. You're not going to go. You're in a hostile territory. You're running your mouth. You're not going to go. So you'd be prepared. Not everybody's, not everybody's Margaret Harrison senior. Right. He was at that, uh,
00:38:13
Speaker
when he was at that car wash and then got there. Right? Running down the street. You know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, hey, hey, run up on Harrison if you want. Yeah, run up on. Marvin Harrison, senior. Don't mess with that man. Run up on Marvin Harrison if you want to. Hey, hey, you got children, man.
00:38:34
Speaker
I found out real quick that he got the Blickie not too far from him. He will pop you, dawg. All right. He grabbed the joint right down the street. I said, oh. But also he was in Philly. So I understand why he had the Blickie whip.
00:38:51
Speaker
you not murder mace, but murder Marvin. He's mild man or quiet dude. You know what I'm saying? Don't mess with nobody. But if you mess with him. Those are the ones. What do you mean? Those are the ones. The quiet ones you gotta watch out for. That's why some of them become school shooters. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, look at this. Man down, turning in says, whoa, a male site. No, you've been working so much, ain't nobody seen you.
00:39:20
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Man, I've been in the background all my stuff. we pay i all wait wait raby we ain'tite nigger around here i'm standing out there I'm like, like, like,
00:39:47
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oh yeah he sure did well diamond is so different from up there too so you know Oh, geez. Messing this up. It's not a get it. I got a couple of, you know, scarecrows out there. chuck the driver You know what? You know what? but hey Thank you. Thank you, Clubber D. This is a perfect way. I was going to do this topic last because it is the most controversial topic of the actual day. Like this news just came out a few hours ago. ah republican Republican governor.
Controversial Statements and Public Backlash
00:40:19
Speaker
Mark Robinson from North Carolina said, ah well, he ah we'll get into the whole story, but basically he will he has quotes of him saying that he would he would be a black Nazi, which, by the way, is contradictory as shit and isn't even possible. ah He also said he would own slaves.
00:40:39
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himself, if it were, and all of this, by the way, was done under screen names on a pornographic hub website, not porn hub itself, but a place called Nude Africa, where he posted that again, right there now.
00:40:57
Speaker
Nude Africa. Nude Africa. I should see them like they try to be Uncle Ruckus. They're trying to have right. I don't know. So anyway, she's on this website and and the way they found this out is because it's the same exact screen name. It had his email had his full name, which by the way, why are you doing that on a pornographic website? You don't be stupid. Don't be stupid anyways. And it matched all these other screen names and emails everywhere. So they called him out. He denies it. But anyways, long story short, if it is him in these things, he claims that if the Nazis came back, he would be a black Nazi and that he would want to own slaves, which we know is not possible because he would be a slave himself.
00:41:37
Speaker
So, how was he gonna be? Thank you. So, how's that gonna happen? I'm not saying. thoughts gentlemen. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go.
00:41:50
Speaker
I mean, the whole thing is ludicrous, man. I mean, either he doesn't he trolling or he's an idiot because this might be a mystery about writing. I mean, first of all, you'll be a Nazi and in which way? That's first out as in which way would you be a Nazi? Not even the obvious that you can't be, but right. like big Right. Right. You know, like Jews are like gays. I mean, it's it's stupid. It's stupid. It just shows you how dumb some of these black people are when it comes to following Trump.
00:42:27
Speaker
still ah Yeah, no matter what you are, like, I mean, you know, like JG saying this song, you know, it don't matter. You just steal a nigga. It doesn't matter. So you can you can be a cool nigga. You still a nigga. You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't. One thing I don't like is that I don't like when a black person will make money at the behest.
00:42:52
Speaker
of making fun of black folks in front of white folks. You can be a Republican. That's perfectly fine. You can be a Republican. There's nothing wrong being Republican. But if you do it to the extent to where you have to put down your own people, that's where I draw the line. And I'm like, oh, are you making it bad for a regular black Republicans?
00:43:13
Speaker
If you're in a tax bracket and the local government does things for you, there's nothing wrong with that. It makes sense. It makes sense. But you don't have to drink the juice and just follow everything, just like a liberal. You do not have to drink the juice and follow everything they do. Right. It's just so annoying when I see this stuff, like online, people just... That's why I don't say nothing about politics online. I got to it. I had a page get canceled a long time ago, going to it, going to it against somebody.
00:43:36
Speaker
a Trump supporter about a cop killing of ah a black person. And he's like, whoa, the guy deserved to die his past priors. That's not Judge Dredge. They live or die. Like that means nothing. So I was like, you know, what I'm not going to argue with people online about their political views. Have fun. I don't care. But.
00:43:55
Speaker
use common sense that's that's what i say and for this brother to do this he must know that you see what they're doing to cancels how they do uh what they do they um they what's the word when you you can't make money off uh instagram or uh YouTube. Oh, they shadow shadow band. Yes. Not shadow band. Deplatform. De-something her. Oh, deplatform. Yeah. Deplatform. Yeah. She she doesn't make no money because she's been going to Israel. I'm like, sweet. no time i can't i dont Oh, yeah, they got her. Yeah, they got her. That's all. You were not the complexion for protection. Her freshman. You were not the complexion for protection. He talking stuff about them. You were not protected. OK, then Shapiro fired your ass. And then look like I mean. And then she admitted that she was basically like.
00:44:38
Speaker
told to talk about black people. Like, ah um you know, I'm like, you know, some other stuff. But but always tell me, hey, that's why we hear me he didn't he's a politician on top of that. So now you just like a regular Joe like ah like us he's a politician with these stupid views.
00:44:53
Speaker
yeah it That's what makes it even worse than me. You know what I'm saying? It's like, come on. You can you can you can feel how you want like like yeah ah me but right. Right. Right. Oh,
00:45:08
Speaker
ah me driving chucking the job joe that that that that you but that he gets someone on there oh Uncle Ruckus. thank agree Hey, man, that's crazy. It's still 2024. We got motherfuckers still shoving in drive and trying to think that, only the hey, nobody call nobody else massive no more, but you ain't got a shit in drive like you got one. You got a boss? Yes, a boss. boss.
00:45:34
Speaker
People don't understand the value of Uncle Ruckus' character and Samuel Jackson from Django. People that aren't from our culture see that, like, oh, he's just a bad guy. Y'all don't understand the meaning. There's a lot of them. A lot of them. He's doing that shit all the time, man. It's wild.
00:45:53
Speaker
yeah i mean i i wish from from north carolina like me can tell you though yeah some just some get some get some ah that so pet balen north carolina a lot of man lost truckers and drivers out here li ah so people in north carolina yeah um I mean, some of it, some of it, you know, I don't get too deep in, but some of it just comes from you know, being in the culture of slavery. still You carrying that trauma over with some of them beliefs and all that thing. And you see it affected people in the north different than it did in the south, you know, because, you know, some of the people came up there and, you know, so it affects them different. I see the ones in the north act a different way. You can see the effects of it as a different respond. Down here is another is a different response was more like we still under the impression of the taskmaster.
00:46:46
Speaker
You know, we so we still got a sugar drive. You still got a yes, a boss in that kind of thing. It's very true because my mom and my dad, they're both Louisiana and my mom, she's retired back. She's back down there and she lives. She's not far from Grambling where she went to school, um but it's a small town. Bernie's shout to Bernie's where the black folks are in the middle. The white folks are on the outside.
00:47:10
Speaker
like It's not like I'm from Northern Virginia. It's not like there's a lot of interaction. We just stick to our own. You know what I'm saying? And like, what you know me, i I'll see. So, hey, how are you doing? And you you do that. And if the person's not in our complexion in that area, they will not even, you know, acknowledge. But that's like, pass down stuff. Like, oh, the gold, whatever. We ain't going to mess with it. Yeah. You know, it's.
00:47:32
Speaker
I'm not used to that, but it's still like that in the South. so a some here is is It's unfortunate. And then then this guy becomes a kind of a politician. Now he's he's making laws based on those thoughts and the ideology. yep and And so then you think, oh, we got a brother in there. But no, he's making laws that's going to be against you because his thinking is like that. His thinking is totally his ideology and thinking is anti-Black.
00:48:02
Speaker
As a man, Tariq Rashid said, Tariq, is it Tariq Rashid? Yeah, Tether. yeah a lot of Tether's in bed, which is out there. ah enough for really
00:48:16
Speaker
and And that was the part that stuck out with me the most was like, damn, you've got all these views and now you're a politician, like, how the hell did you even get this far as a politician? Well, I can answer that question myself as I just asked what yeah yeah as i just asked it myself. But anyway, y'all remember in the show when Uncle Ruck is testing his DNA? yeah Oh, yeah. He's like, 100%.
00:48:42
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He said, he came back 102% African with a 2% margin of error. well This is what Viniligo. What is reverse Viniligo? I pour bleach on my body every day and pray to John Wayne. like
00:49:03
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It's the dollar you made. It's so stupid. Mammy. yeah
00:49:12
Speaker
ah Hold on Omar. There's been quite a few of uh Latina on Hispanic uh Theo Tommaso's Uncle Tom's out there I have something to say to one of them. And Will, you old punk-ass mother who went up there at the Trump rally and tried to support him when you're Puerto Rican out there knowing the way he treats us. You know what? You can kiss my ass. I ain't never supporting your music again. And Will, the reggaeton, you can kiss my ass, brother. Someone sent him that. oh I rock with him too. I got some songs with him. He was big time with the hat
00:49:48
Speaker
they would get my guy. Yeah, he was my guy out at that the rally. I was like, really? Yeah. He also. you That's what happens when you make too much money and and and you forget what where you came from, basically. Really? Anyways. All right. Let's move off of that. And yeah, Derek, you're right. ah Clever D, your brother came in. Mark, rob Mark, Mark Robinson. That's exactly what we're talking about. You already know ah exactly what you're talking about. Cool. All right. Well, let's move it on to another Crazy story that came out last week, uh, in the sports media. Well, one video came out a while ago, but the most recent one Shannon sharp got into a whole bunch of hot water for a leaked audio sexual encounter.
00:50:37
Speaker
ah with apparently and a lady named what't named heather or so michel michelle it was michelle um so so mad we blame the snow bunny yeah i talk about I'm so mad that we know the name of his sexual encounter. Anyways, ah Paul Pierce got really upset about this. Derek, we'll get to that. I completely agree. We'll get to that, but I completely agree. He knows what he's doing. But Paul Pierce came out and was really upset because he had the IG with these scantily clad dancers about six months ago and he got fired for it.
00:51:13
Speaker
But Shannon Sharp was back the next day on first take. I think we all know why. Mar, you haven't talked to him a little bit. Hit us off. Let us know what's good. Hey, there's levels to this, man. and Paul Pierce, you don't move the needle like Shannon. Right. That's it. You don't move the needle like Shannon. Had you been able to move the needle, you might have been safe. But you don't. Matter of fact,
00:51:41
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i you and youre not even moving the needle on f s one
00:51:47
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You know, that's just perhaps a lot of forgiveness and things are given to those who are able to move the needle. but And there's this slight difference in Paul Pierce's aunt shanny's situation and Shannon's, we're just getting audio. You know, although it's a alive, we're just getting audio. We're not getting visual. um You know, you were being drunk and you had strippers, visually continuing. You were visually intoxicated, ah you know.
00:52:17
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oh No problem with the video, because I've been in that situation. neith you You represent a multi-billion dollar company like Disney. And they say niggas will need. Yeah.
00:52:33
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And you know, so so so when you visually get caught in the act on your live and and Shannon's is just audio, they're go're they're also going to have a little bit of a leeway for that situation. But right it all comes down to the point where you are not Shannon short. You are all peers. All right. Right. Damn. About period calling from you. They had no problem moving on for you.
00:53:01
Speaker
you know, Shannon got a little bit of favor. When you got your most highly paid ah employee and Steven A. Smith has vows for him and got him a job, they're going to have a little bit of leeway for Shannon. That right there, yeah because he makes a lot of damn money. And because that show is the hottest network show on morning television club review. What do you think about that?
00:53:22
Speaker
Uh, Mara, Mara basically hit on the head. I put it like this. Um, what Paul Pierce was starting for the Celtics and, uh, I love you. True. I love you, baby. Brian Scallabrini. The Paul Pierce short of late for practice and Brad Scallabrini short of late for practice. Who's getting in trouble.
00:53:38
Speaker
yeah ring calebrating Okay. Let's not make a wrong and then talk about another person's wrong and get mad that you got disciplined more than how much you just don't. wow Right. Use your common sense. Start with the mentality of, Oh, well I messed up. Well, he messed up. But, but, but you guys are harder on me, but we both know just don't mess up.
00:53:57
Speaker
You just don't do it. Take that mentality away. And also, just to touch on Shannon Sharpe real quick, I agree with Michael Urban, who's on It Is What It Is with Caleb Mace. You heard the noises. We heard no clapping. I was going to say the same thing. I was going to say the same thing. He wasn't getting nothing to eat because he was moaning and groaning, too. Right.
00:54:19
Speaker
Right. What was it sound like? It's not like they both on a mic saying, oh, baby, you know, it sounded just like that. You listen to the conversation. It's no distance between the audio. You know what I'm saying? It sounds like they up. It just sounded up on the same mic. It's just on the stage. And it makes you start thinking about going back to like, you see them all hanging around all these gay guys.
00:54:44
Speaker
You see, I mean, you know, and there's no problem. There's no problem with that. That's what you want to do. My thing is like, I say this about it when it's like you deny it. Be who you're going to be. You know, stand on that shit. Ten toes down. That's what you are. That's what you are. Especially nowadays. Who cares?
00:55:04
Speaker
yeah yeah You know what I'm saying? Are you saying and unsubstantiated by the way, this is and this is alleged y'all. Are you saying that conspiracy theory is just Shannon Sharp purposely releasing this just to prove that he's not gay? I'm saying that it gives it some kind of merit to it. It gives you it gives you so it gives some kind of pause. It gives you some kind of think about, hmm.
00:55:29
Speaker
i know i wonder to if sold out his merchandise sold out and his dick pill sold let's be hold right let tell us so do go I didn't know he had to. All I'm saying is let's be real. All four of us. If that was us.
00:55:46
Speaker
um Yeah. What? Oh, oh, we trying to knock the box out. there even more like vigie bad take this You know, saying me more like there'll be a lot more talking. There'll be a lot more. noise i all these Others listen to getting flashbacks right now for me right now. They're listening to others that are listening. You know what I'm saying? They're getting flashbacks.
00:56:03
Speaker
yeah get a comments now ah and he you know I remember his beard was small. I sat on his feet. You know? You know what I'm saying? I thought i know that beard did grow. You know what I'm complaining about my snoring. You know what I'm saying? You're real. We are we are not uh cinematics right at nine o'clock when they just switched over to the soft joint now. Right. Oh yeah. We we're talking about we got Tim's on in the fitted. We we try to so yeah it is its own day
00:56:34
Speaker
you know tos hold a sha like that right right i don't type i too You can't tell me a man who does who Who has who does this this for a living what we doing? colorado I G you no i that's my day very no way you saying you you have to actually go into the hour You got all these platforms and you mean tell me you don't know how to run IG in there's no there's no way unless you had the app open it's just gonna pop on
00:57:05
Speaker
You have to go in. You have to hit the plus button. You have to hit live video and then you got start that has to Yes, except there's so much steps to it that just don't make sense. Oh, I accidentally did that. Who the fuck? Yeah, it made no sense to me because when I take a shower, you know, I like to listen to music and sometimes the water will splash and hit my phone. Right. You know, like try to like, oh.
00:57:25
Speaker
stop the music or try to go to another screen or something. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like you're watching YouTube. like i mean don't Don't order that. Like, but I never went online. You know, well that happens. So just it's it's mass suspect, mass suspect, mass suspect. I'm already I'm a red flag when you lie about it from the first from the get go. And he made money off of like, oh, yeah, we'll check these pills. and then Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was hot. It was hot. First it was hacked.
00:57:55
Speaker
now i well any her hey my one maybe right right right and you And then he's a healthy active male, was his excuse to ESP? Right, right, right. We all healthy active males.
00:58:10
Speaker
bro man you getting chicks you getting chicks ain't no wrong with that man ain't no wrong with that man you know it now that is crazy that y'all said that because when i heard when i watched the video i didn't even think about that i just figured they were like a missionary whatever and they just weren't going too hard at it or whatever they had almost done you know he was iron you he said he had been going for like 25 minutes but you're completely right yeah you gotta hear some clapping there gotta be some kind of some kind of uh some reverberations Well, then it was no there was no ah squeak, nothing. There was nothing I want to say, you know, you know, like, you know, you get into it and go the gets it higher and higher. It was none of these things. It stayed one level.
00:58:49
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They're breathing. Yeah. Yeah, it was no escalation. It was no escalation to stay all one monotone level. It's like, come on, bro. Come on. No, no Casey queefs going on, huh? Right. You know what I'm saying? So you know, I think you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, I think that shot bar, you know, And yeah, shout I think that out to Champy. Tune it in. Canelo's still the face of boxing, League of Hisself. What do you think, Covered? Absolutely not. He's up there, but fight who you're supposed to fight, then I'll tell you that. But I respect what he's done in boxing, but no.
00:59:36
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And we appreciate you tuning in, brother. Make sure you subscribe at Ball and Buds, IOW Sports Network at the Bottom of Line Sports. Make sure you all subscribe to all those channels. All right. Wow. That was a hilarious discussion. I'm so glad we went over that. um But yeah, I mean, it it seems like a work and in wrestling terms.
00:59:55
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All right, cool. Let's move on to pop culture. ah We got a little bit of controversy here. ah The halftime Super Bowl performer was named for the 2025 Super Bowl. Now I will note why this is actually a controversy is because where the event is being held, which is in New Orleans.
01:00:15
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ah So ah Kendrick Lamar is going to be the headlining act February 9th, 2025. And he was chosen over one person who came out and expressed how hurt he was over this Little Wayne. Little Wayne clearly from the south, a bunch of different rap groups from that area that you could have had a huge compilation event. um But the Super Bowl doesn't normally worry about that sort of thing, even though they did have the West Coast one a few years ago.
01:00:44
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Whoever wants to start this off, um how do we feel about the choice and does Wayne have any a complaint in this matter? I'll kick it off. wait Look, man, I've seen a little Wayne performance before live. oh I've also seen him on various other events live.
01:01:09
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I mean, he's pretty much standing there with a mic in his hand and we're doing karaoke. All right. When we're talking about a Super Bowl, this is a spectacle. This is supposed to be something that's entertaining. There is nothing entertaining about being at a karaoke session with little Wayne. All right.
01:01:27
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being honest. And that's from who's a Wayne fan. And, um, you know, uh, when I went to WrestleMania, he came out and and let Jey Uso out to the ring. That was pretty bad. Uh, when he did a Milly, um, look,
01:01:42
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Kendrick is going to give you the showmanship part of being part of Super Bowl. right ah right That's what it's about. like the and And we got to remember, ah not only with the partnership with Rock Nation and Jay-Z, but the whole cities get final say on who's performing.
01:02:00
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So obviously, you know, that's a big indictment. yeah and Your city is like we don't want this nigga either. Exactly. This is something about the whole city not wanting you there. I'm not saying him as a guest appearance, you know, like they did in other Super Bowls is totally fine. If you want to pay homage to New Orleans, that's fine.
01:02:19
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But if we're talking about main attraction of the person that's supposed to be the main ah entertainer for the Super Bowl, I have no issues with it. It is what it is. Name another person that's hotter than Kendrick Lamar in the music business right now.
01:02:32
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um me oh now what do we talking and And that's one of the things that was said, it's like, okay, well, he's the one that has all the hit songs out, getting, ah you know, demolishing. They play shit here in Nashville. In country music town, they play that. This song, that's that's so popular. yeah ethos probably like I didn't hear it in the clubs, I could hear. Yeah, you hear it, not like us everywhere. Oh, the HBCUs ain't even got a hold of. dot like us yeah
01:03:03
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ah little Wait till they get ahold of that joint. It's going to be something crazy. know oh i will say um like I would say I think there's a lot of moving parts to this. I mean, if you look at it from a standpoint of, okay, if out Lil Wayne, right? Well, let me back up. The Super Bowl and LA set of presidents, what they did,
01:03:29
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You know, they brought everybody from the West Coast. Dr. Dre. I mean, I'm sure he brought all the Atlanta artists out there. So it's still kind of like followed that presence, even though he wasn't in Atlanta, but he still brought out Atlanta artists. You know, so then people think it's going to follow suit. OK, now we're going to New Orleans. Let's get Wayne cash money. Let's get no limit, you know, saying kind of brain. But then then you got to look at the other side of that. OK, are they going to draw people in who wants to see that?
01:03:59
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I mean, you know, so you still got to think about that part. Then you got to think, OK, there's some people might say, well, you can still do Kendrick and Kendrick in the right wing. And what do you do about Drake? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's like you got all those moving parts. So then the bottom line is, as an executive, as someone that's a businessman, I got to think, what's my best option? Kendrick Lamar. Hot right now. He has the soulmanship.
01:04:27
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You know, he has all the things that that to me is better business decision. I understand Wayne being upset because it's from the city, you know what I'm saying? But at this time, and then I could do it, is now you can it's not the best decision. Because if I bring you out, then you want to bring the rest of your crew up. Drake's part of that. What we do with that?
01:04:44
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right and yeah yeah all boys right yeah right so Wayne don't even support the New Orleans team and the Saints he's a Packers fan what do we try he's a Packers fan right but you but he's from the area though he but he's from there he don't represent well I will say this. You put together like no limit soldiers and silk the shocker, my boy, you know, get them out there and do it. He dated Maya, too. Why? You know I love silk the shocker. Worst rapper ever. I have no problem. I have no problem if they bring out no limit in cash money. But that only attracts us.
01:05:18
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Yeah. Like, like we. Yeah. All four of us are fans of new of Nolan. He tracks white, black. He he goes off. He's playing all the different demographics. Exactly. he He transcends so many different graphics because so many people listen to his music. Right. That's how you attract more than one viewership ah demographic putting Kendrick on there. And that's what the NFL is all about. They're trying to get as much viewership from multi yeah demographics, not just well.
01:05:48
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Oh, I will say this. plant cover You guys, you guys are missing one thing in this whole, whole equation. Chestnut checkers. Remember when Jay-Z, Drake, Lil Wayne, I don't say to all sneak dissing and kidnapped the baby. And then Jay-Z was like, kidnapped the baby. Y'all ain't got my baby's money.
01:06:07
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He's in charge now, okay okay? So you think your black ass is going to come up here in Portland, New Orleans? No. you're you're one like like like me like you get Like you guys said, his um it performances aren't that great. like it's He's been in and out of rehab. He's not there all the way. He looks sick too, man. He does. So he doesn't ask anybody to represent, you know? and he doesn't look like one of the rights folks, okay? He looks like one of the folks that should be in the crowd looking in, all right? We can't have Susie from going to Wegmans or he at Coney Island to see Lil Wayne performing when he'd rather have Kendrick when they're practically or their daughter's familiar with him. So that's my take on it.
Music Industry Debates and Cultural Icon Reminiscence
01:06:50
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Fair point. That's a fair point. Chestnut checkers. i um Look at you now. Right.
01:06:56
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As somebody put on on Twitter, he has the availability, the superstars global, as y'all said, mainstream kind of um reach. um He's an incredible live performer, like you mentioned, Mar, right? Versus Wayne, who isn't. And he has new music coming out. So it's like, you know, they try to like pair them when they got people that yeah and their new album or they're back on tour or something like that. So those were a lot of reasons that that they did that. Now, again,
01:07:22
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And Mar, I must admit, and Clubber D already knows this, and most people that know my my musical taste, I do not like much down south music at all. Aside from OutKast and Goody Mob and and maybe just that that Dungeon family crew, I i do not like Little Wayne's music at all. I like old school ghetto boys and stuff like that.
01:07:43
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Yeah, I'll go down that far, but Killer Mike, Killer Mike, Killer Mike. Me too. UGK. Yeah. UGK. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York South stuff. Sorry. I should have said the New York never say I'm a fan of Lil Wayne. You know, that's me personally. But I mean, I'm a minority. I don't really care for Jay-Z like that. So. and Well, the people I hear that argue with me are like, oh, he's a lyricist. I'm like, hey, he's not really that great of a lyricist. I can't. I need some type of little niggas rapping.
01:08:25
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is Is it, is it lyricist? Gilly's writing for him or not? Come on. Like it depends on. That stuff, man. Get out. Go sit in the corner, man. Stop. Yes. We're going to end on that because that is beautiful. Yeah. hit sister give get less yeah It's a, it's a proven fact.
01:08:49
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Hey, Gilly wrote a lot for a lot of people that owe that man some, he shouldn't be living how you living with as much as he's written. Let's just say that bars. Bars. That was good. Gilly ain't hurting but. Oh no. He should have a lot more than what you get. Oh my, I want to answer this question by Angel Hall. Yeah, no that's what I wanted to do too. Yeah, let's go to it. Yeah, yeah.
01:09:12
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So Angel Hall, shout out. Thank you for watching. with right appreciate chance The daughters on Good Times versus Bernadette Stannis. And that was the daughter on Good Times. She said you but Pam Greer. damn motherfu What was her name? Thelma? Thelma. So listen, I'm going to break it down.
01:09:35
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as a youth. Okay. Fox Brown's more in the seventies, but still my dad watched that stuff. Fox Brown was that grown woman that I won. Oh, yes. Yeah. Okay. Wait. Okay. I just, I drink her bathwater. Even when she did the moves with Quentin Tarantino, I drink bathwater. Couldn't say if I saw her, I might, I might kiss a bunion, but Now coming home from school, watching what's happening, good times and all that stuff. Thelma was it for me. Yeah, I got G that. Thelma was later, but Thelma was it for me. Ooh, he brought a Topanga. Trust me, I tore my pillow up thinking about that. Hey, man, I like Topanga. Topanga with his eyes. I mean, I just like that. That's an exotic white girl right there, boy. Yeah, trust me. My pillow got twerled. I said, boy, I mean, we're all on TV like this.
01:10:18
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i shouldn be and Is that a triple C show? pay elma jessica rabbit Oh my My walls are painted.
01:10:36
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ah but sticky sock What are away towels pillows door now there they with sticky oh just a candy pack you doing?
01:10:56
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right who are you doing right <unk> go grier she She's like that that that white ah the white police ah what she was at police academy where she used to hold the other dude after PT or whatever. like that's so That's what Pam Greer, that's what I wanted. Oh, back oh yo your town okay. I can please ca movies back man yeah yeah got i i forgot name. I didn't talk about it. Yeah. So is that your choice then? You're going with Pam Greer?
01:11:23
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Oh, let's nah no, this is a tough one, bro. It's tough. That's tough. ah Let us know what you're thinking. Go ahead, lawyer. This is the joint that you just ah call head to tail and let fate call what it is, because you can't go either way. ah know well mayor child what oh john You like ah you know There's no loss in none of this. So you just.
01:11:48
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Yeah, they call what it is, because at the end of the day, as long as you get it, you know, get you some of that Michelle, you win, bro. I don't know about you, Michelle. I'm like, man, what's up, man? For the awesome force, he was like, fam, fam, fam.
01:12:09
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yeah I just pictured Michael coming in and telling me to snitch. i walking you would go um in there what' yall doing it here i'm telling and by the window james came home up boy he came home by I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, Hey, New Orleans, you won't see a whole bunch of slapping. You ain't stopping, you see it. Oh, Mel. Oh, that's great. Thank you. Shout out to Angel. that with without That's an amazing question. a Good question. and Good question. What's your degeneracy? What's your answer, though, Mel? What's your answer?
01:12:55
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I'm like Club of D, man. Oh, you know, like young that young Thelma, when you come home, that was a shit. Got a tight bill, bottles, ass poppin, low cut, low cut, sheet shirt on, titties popping out. I was like, I was like, good times like this.
01:13:14
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You know what, Mel? Think about it. I'm going with Thelma because when we came home watching, watching it on TV, you either had Thelma or you had Shirley. So... So, Thelma was the choice. I'm going to go with Thelma. Because you know what's happening. You had Shirley. joe Shirley was cooking my dinner and I was talking to Thelma. Jenna Jackson was with, or Dee, whatever, to the little girl. Just now.
01:13:36
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but yeah james was too young dan was too young i too young yeah but I mean, I'm like, if Foxy Brown was like, you saw the reruns of it, you didn't, you know, it was more my parents' era. I mean, I thought she was a nice looking woman, but she was a grown woman. For us, that was more relatable because she was close to our age.
01:13:54
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I see you hold you for detention. That's like the tension. That's right. Right. Right. That's that that's that's that's that fantasy. You know, I won't give me an older woman type thing, but that was more like more attainable for lack of better words. You know what I mean? It's more than your mind. You can get the man out kicking y'all cubbies, y'all ugly bastards. Y'all ain't getting my damn Thelma.
01:14:14
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yeah
01:14:20
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ah ah With her and James came in what do you do? No, I'm running. I'm Joe. Yeah, I'm going man. Look it depends on what I'm I'm I'm had a bus and I'm with mail you take that punish me I'm closer like be ready to break the bus yeah he never came under never came five right right that's a apollo preach i but may you anybody get know we're that hair almost waiting at a point that' right and that's gonna hair my
01:14:51
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ah for real you got a gotta say and you Hey, you take, do you know, go ahead and have that pleasure. Take that pain. It's all good, man. um i hello all ja the there what i surerley were ah about shirley ora um Neither. Neither. I'm good. ah You fucker. You fucker, Florida. She'd be like, damn, damn, damn. I was talking about Florida. If I can't tell more, then we can't tell more, then we know what we're talking about. I was like, I'm going to fuck your hair on the street.
01:15:25
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that's why we're doing that damn oh which i i got cool
01:15:31
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style louis me style yeah wow I have to say that I agree completely because of with everything else. that First of all, Pam Grier, a little older than us, right? But fine.
01:15:42
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thick right and you're like then You're like, Oh man, I want that. that's I want that in the future, right? Cause again, we're younger. So I want something like that in the future, right but you're right. Delma was younger. She was natural beauty, right? No makeup. Just look good. Had that hadt you said the bell bottoms, the the lace shirt, and you know, she was doing the girl next door. So right right right yeah so I agree. I pillow up. Boy, my brother's stupid.
01:16:07
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long ah
01:16:14
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and feel gold better i and um That was a great question. Thank you Angel Hall for tuning in. We really appreciate it. Yeah, thank everybody for tuning in.
Legal Issues and Public Figures
01:16:30
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Make sure you subscribe at ball and buds at IOW sports at the bottom line sports. We got two more ah quick topics and we'll be out of here for the game is on Diddy was denied bail. So I'm only updating this story because obviously we were all on the last time we talked about this. He went up. He offered the judge $50 million dollars and offered the condition that no women would be law o allowed at his house unless they were related to him.
01:16:56
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And the judge still turned all of that down. So whoever wants to start off here, what are our thoughts? He made bid. He made his bid, man. And you, like they said, he was known for intimidating witness, paying off witnesses and stuff like that and not giving you bail.
01:17:14
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You know and then when you had a chance Each time I gave him a chance and each time he got caught or something gave him a chance He still went back and did the same behavior So they looking at that kind of stuff and like why should we give you bail? You proving that you're not gonna do what you need supposed to do We're gonna keep you locked up or we not, you know, you can't do anything else wrong So he should know he won't get bail, you know, then they complain about million dollars a lot of money though yeah Oh my god, he has bad living conditions What the fuck are you in jail? Yo, when I was watching the news, they were like they would say it was Donald Trump's former like lawyer or whatever. He was like, he's going to be living in despicable conditions. I'm like, yo, he is traumatized. Thousands of people like.
01:18:03
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Look, know i was I was locked at one time in Amherst, which is on one. on I think of the seven precinct in Detroit. Terrible, terrible jail. Terrible.
01:18:15
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I mean like, you can see the rats in the back. It's got the little slab and the toilet right there. It's dark. It's like the one light down the hall. It's darker the whole thing.
01:18:28
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I'm I'm saying my thing is like it's it's jail nigga. What do you think he's gonna be? Right? You know what I'm saying? And they gave you they gave you the below the sandwich with two pieces of bread. That was it. All right. That's all you get. You get the apple. I mean, what you thought you don't get? It's a steak. Juice. That's it. That's it. That's the same thing. You better make some potatoes.
01:18:47
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You better make some packed burritos, some ramen burritos. i mean ah really yeah i couldn' I couldn't believe that when they said that. It had the audacity to feel bad for them. I'm like, Mar, I saw you laughing about that. And the audacity that they would feel bad for this character. What do you think? How do you feel bad for ah a piece of shit that's made a lot of people's lives hell? ah Wow.
01:19:12
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man. Mel said it. You made your bed, you lying it. You've been a disgusting pervert for a minute. You know, obviously a lot of stuff was that was rumors, but now some of this stuff's coming to light. but When the dark comes to light, bro. Hey, hey. Hey, Cat Williams told us early 2024. Yeah, all this gonna happen. He said all this was gonna happen. He paid attention. He called it. It's happening. It is what it is. You gotta pay, dawg. Dawg. It is what it is. Here's my thing. Here's my thing, Lamar, too. This is how I think. If I see they got Weinstein,
01:19:56
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If I see they got everything, what made you think they won't go get you? I'm a black man. Yes. I'm thinking I'm about to, I'm about to stop doing everything I'm doing. Well, I'm going to, I'm going away somewhere. They don't ask me that one or two. action you damn like man It's one of those two things is going to happen. You got to understand. You said something similar last time, right? You said that something. similar like well You look at it like this. J.Lo has evaded the wall, okay? She's getting somebody at her level or or whatever. oh And Puffy has always evaded his Negro wake-up call. yeah That Cassie video came out, because as a said R. Kelly said in jail, he said, until they put the cuffs on him, he's fine. When that Cassie video came out, it's over. It's all hearsay. It's all, you know, Right. This maybe yes, no. Well, we got footage of him do doing that to that young lady. Oh, no, that's a wrap. They're going to get him sooner or later. So it was it. This motherfucker, we corner have the shit so we got tape. So we got all that. How dumb are you? You're recording all of your illegal actions. I don't understand what we're doing here.
01:21:01
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like know man but right Exactly what it is. That's exactly right. Yep. Damn. Any other thoughts on that before we move on to the last topic of the day, gentlemen? He doesn't deserve any more of our time anyways. Tyree Kill. so This is the big topic that we need to talk about. Obviously this happened last week. Tyree Kill was detained by the police. No need to show the video. Everybody has seen it. He was pulled out of the car by Danny Torres, an officer of 27 years on the force. I will get into a little bit more of of of his past.
01:21:30
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a second oh
01:21:35
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I look down on me. stupid.
01:21:48
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hey ah You are stupid. Puff may like it though. That's the whole big oh my li you no so you know nice i mean if you're your burden home.
01:21:59
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yeah i'm home very back If you're y'all give run you stuck here too. Right.
01:22:10
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Yo, there was a TikTok video I seen, and it was some guy in Puffy's house, you know, in Puffy's house, and he was like, yo, Puff, where's the cups at? And he goes to the cabinet full of baby oil, just baby oil, just bottles of baby oil. They're killing them all live. I mean, he's still seeing so many memes. Oh, my God. They don't lie every trip. But go ahead.
01:22:32
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No, you're good. That's great. right So anyways, he was arrested, but are and not arrested, detained and taken out of the car by Officer Danny Torres, 27 years on the force, took him out of the court, forcibly removed him. ah Now we will say this was after he had asked Tyree Kill to roll down his window. Tyree Kill did not comply and it took a little bit of time before finally he rolled down the window. ah He pulled him out the car, threw him on the ground.
01:22:57
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Knee in the back all that good all that bad stuff. I don't know why I would say good stuff all that stuff um Then they set him up and then after that tackled him again to the ground All of this over an alleged speeding Which by the way was rumored to be over a hundred miles an hour as lady a friend found out to be 60 You know many people I see about the South Beach speeding at 60 miles an hour a lot of people all the time all the time um Now he is in a nice car, and you know, $250,000 Maserati. Um, really what I want to ask, because we all know where, where most people stand, you're on the side where you, uh, you know, you're on the anti kind of color cap and cap and a route where you're going to say, well, he deserved it because he didn't comply. And then you've got the other side, which is he didn't deserve any of that, no matter if he did comply, because that the, the, the, whatever he was being charged for didn't bring it to that level. There's the other people in the middle that see both sides and then try to inject Scotty Scheffler, the golfer who was arrested and taken in for a few hours at the US Open, which you'll get my opinion on that in a second, but that's another part of the story. So whoever wants to kick us off first, ah you're welcome to go. What are your thoughts on this and how do you feel about the situation, about how people are talking about it from both different sides?
01:24:16
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I mean, I went through a up and down thing for me. You know, I don't know if y'all know, I used to work in law enforcement. So, um, I looked at it from one way and then I watched this one YouTube from a lawyer standpoint. And I said, you know what? I didn't even look at it like that either. So now I kind of fall on the sides. I mean, I i did say from the get go that the officers are successful. It didn't take all that, but The one thing that changed, one thing that my mind changed on was the winter roll down thing. So basically, like the lawyer said, even if he cracked his window, it's still in compliance as far as the law goes, because he didn't say how far he needs to roll it down, where he said to roll the window down. So if he cracked it and hand him the license, he's in compliance.
01:25:04
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You know, as far as the law is, you know, we can see it from a different standpoint, far as like our moral standards and all that kind of stuff. And, you know, our own opinions, but far as the law goes, once I want to go down, because all he said was, oh, are you going to have me license? He didn't say world all the way down on it. So he was like, I've known plenty of people that have used that law and they only roll the window down a little bit and hand their idea out of there. And that's right. and Right. he So so yeah, then then then you add on top. of I let you find out that this officer has all kind just kind of done this kind of conduct before. It's not his his nice first time. He has a history. yeah limit Let me update this real quick. Let me update this real quick. So he has ah on record at least six suspensions.
01:25:47
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uh four of them are just for a few days one was a 10 day suspension and one was a 20 day suspension all for forcible actions all for you know abusive actions yeah he still has a job go ahead keep going this is the issue i have with that too i can't remember what's that officer that ended up killing somebody but he kept going from um department to department yeah red yeah your but yeah Yeah. Right. So my thing is, yeah, you're right. That's what it was. So my thing is, why do we have to keep going through this where you have an officer going from the part of the department or incentive incident and then to someone gets killed and all of a sudden, oh, mo let's take action. You had a chance to take action a long time ago when they showed you who they were.
01:26:37
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You know, and the crazy thing, when you go, so when you go through hiring, you go through this rigorous thing. You first take a ah written test, then you gotta go through this review board. You go through all this other things, you do some, no, down here it's still a lie detector test, which is crazy as hell, but, you know, you go through, yeah, they still do that down here, but I don't know if they don't really do that. But you go through all this process, you go through a psycho valve, all that stuff, and you still got crazy people on the floor.
01:27:06
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Yeah, that's wild. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy to me, man, how you still have these people still passing your your rigorous tests. And it's still out here on the force, not seem to be saying. But it went through a cycle valve. That makes it make sense to me.
01:27:29
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it It doesn't really make sense because you're right these ah how they still passed easy about it again. Look I passed I passed when I went into the military and got my clearance. I passed a ah You know one of those, you know, the whatever the trust that they the light texture test whatever. Yeah, I passed all that. Yeah, i I've been through yes Look, there are ways there are ways to get around those sorts of things there are ways to interventions those sorts of things but the fact is that
01:27:59
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most Most people who turn, let me take that back before I get my us canceled. but Some of these police officers that end up being abusive in power are people that were bullied or abused earlier in their life. And now they want to go and take it out on people. And when you're in the police force, you have that power because when you pull somebody over us ostensibly, ah you're basically God in that situation as a police officer because you have all the power.
01:28:28
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Here's another point I want to make too, because or you said it made me think about this. There's another part to this. So when you go through, you're in law enforcement and you see things over and over again, there's no decompression that they give you.
01:28:44
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You know what I'm saying? You got to do it yourself, but there's no, and I'm gonna give you a good example. So I worked in the school to police department when I was in Detroit and you know, anybody know about Detroit is mostly black. And before I went into work that job, you know, I'm pro black, everything, blah, blah, blah. When I got to that job, I hated kids.
01:29:09
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You know what I'm saying? I had a disdain for kids, especially black kids, you know, and it took for me to get out of that decompress and realize because there's no way of decompression while you in that job, you you get this mindset and it's not like, you don't see them as you as one of us, you see them, us against them or them as the other. you know So that's when I brought that point up for two reasons. One is that the police department needs to do a lot of rehauling and the way they do things. that and i say You know For the officer's sake and for the public's sake.
01:29:46
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And it's another thing I brought up because no people say, well, it can be racist because it was a black cop or whatever. They don't understand that. But they don't understand the fact is they don't see you as black. They don't see you as Latino. They see you as the other because they've been in that job for so long and they have no way of decompressing and getting that out of their mind. And who are you going to talk? You can't come home and talk to your mate or not like that. You don't follow officers. Y'all don't really talk about it from that level.
01:30:16
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You know, and then they tell you to as a brotherhood and they don't encourage you to go see the therapist. like kind of Unless you have a shooting or something like that, but it's not like encouraging you to go see the therapist on a daily basis. So you can decompress. None of that is encouraged. So you just, you internalize a lot of stuff. And when you out here on the streets, it's us against them.
01:30:40
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And really, if you really break it down percentage wise, the people who do bad things ah is the one or two percent. You know, because we see all on the news as and we look like we think it's all everybody's doing. There's only one or two percent. So majority of people you pulling over are good citizens. Right. Yeah, I mean, in in society in general, I like to believe that the majority of people, at least, are good hearted and wouldn't do things that would affect other people, you know and at least directly. um But cops do have that power. And and they are you're right in the fact that they have these things that they deal with, that they're not able to vent, they're not able to get these things out of their system. And even though that may be true,
01:31:27
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ah I mean, I worked Intel, I couldn't tell nobody about my job or what I did, things like that. It's like, okay, you can't use that as an excuse for bad behavior though. Yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't. No, no, no, no no I know, I'm glad you brought that up. But I'm just saying for them, like, yeah, you may not be able to see a therapist, but you still got to do your job to protect and serve. And the problem that I've always seen in my life is that police serve more than they protect. What do you all want?
01:31:54
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Nah, I'm gonna keep it short. Um, you know, ah I've had ah me a male had the conversation on I'll W sports about it. I've had conversations with club or D and you Omar off camera. um Yeah offline look. um Tyree, he could have handled the situation a lot better. That's the part of the situation he needs to own. I certainly want to behave that way dealing with the cops. That's just me, because I know the rules. I know the regulations. Well, OK, I know the unwritten rules and regulations. Right, right, right. Let's specify, this with spec five all right um I wouldn't have done that. um So I think Tyree could have handled the situation. But let's make it known that
01:32:41
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It doesn't justify the behavior of the cop. You're supposed to decompress the situation. You're supposed to de-escalate the situation. And here's my thing. If you can't ah stop, think, and handle a situation in a calm manner, you do not need to be a cop. There you get that a go. So I mean, that's that's just where I'm at with this situation. ah Both parties should have handled the situation better than what it was.
01:33:07
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um that That's just where I'm at. Tyree definitely could have handled the situation better, but this guy with a history of force, you can't be on the job still ah excessively forcing people into those types of positions. so they there's some things I don't know what job you can get suspended in six times and still keep your damn job. Cause I've been fired for a whole lot less before. a whole life like I a girl, I called a girl a bitch at a lunch shift one time and got fired. I can see that when I go out, I go out, I go out with a bang.
01:33:43
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Lamar, you're cool. mars tell you but I get fired. I get fired for a reason. i grow what of damn but yeah But still people get fired. People get fired for way less than six suspensions to take out your aggressiveness on people covered. It depends. I would say it depends on like ah the police force that they're lacking people. You don't say they can't get rid of officer.
01:34:07
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Um, the background on this dude, um, he was, he is a part of a motorcycle gang. I forgot the name of the gang he's part of. Um, so one issue, I have two issues with this. I'll keep it, keep it pretty brief. Um, a lot of people are doing their own narratives and and talking through emojis. We're not really saying stuff, you know, right but, um,
01:34:26
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The thing I didn't like about this, Omar, you missed it. You missed it. Come on. Come on, Omar. There it is. but um I was looking at the comments.
01:34:38
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so Tyree could have done better and a cop could have done better. All right, I listened to Marcellus Wiley, break this whole thing down, even with all the rules and regulations in Florida. you If you are stopped and hey you take to roll your window down, you have to roll it down, because that's the official stop. The cop did tell him before he pulled over, I'm stopping you. So he could have rolled the window down. Cop did have to bang on it, he was complying with you. Now, when a cop told him to do something, Tyree, oh, I'm on phone with this guy, i I'm on phone with Drew. i'm ah This ain't time for you to do all that stuff, all right? It's not, you're not on their time, okay? You can't just do what you want, you know you're not on your time. Now, the cop was mad aggressive. The other cop who had the cam, he was more calm. He was more calm.
01:35:22
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returned Yes, like not the other cop. Now, there needs to be a fine line in that. Don't get me wrong, because, you know, they pull you over the table with a pull you over four. That's not for you to be like, well, I want to do this. No, no, no. Shut the fuck up and and and do what they they tell you to do, because it can be something where you might not go home from. OK, right. I'm um i' always I will always be for a person of color or a person of color. You can stop by the cops.
01:35:48
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don't fight them, because I'd rather you fight it in court than your loved ones fighting it for you while you're dead. That's just my my philosophy, all that stuff. Good point. it's it's You're not going to win on the scene. You're not going to win. So, you know, I say this, but, you know, if I'm in that situation, I don't know what I want to do, but I will hopefully have the sense to not really go combat the cop unless he's overly provoking me. And that guy was provoking Tyree Hill. He was doing that, but he was giving him chances to do it. Like, sit down and search for my knee.
01:36:17
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You're about to play an NFL game. You just said, do you know who I am? Like, it's just like, come on, bro. Like, it's every time I give him an inch, I got to take it away. You know, Kaleis Campbell, when he got put in cuffs, the cop was like, you can't park it. You can't park him over the road. Okay. And Kaleis was like, okay, what's the cop I'm talking to? Another guy, the aggressive one was like, you're you're dealing with me, uh, license registrations. And then he turns to the other guy.
01:36:41
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Don't do that. The guy's already on on on on a level 10. He already won't take you to jail. So don't move your car or get arrested. like just I don't know. I just don't like arguing with the cops because they always can win in that situation. I'd rather them being overly aggressive to where I am going to take your ass to court. But I'd rather them live and not get arrested than saying, you've got to suck it up. Let them talk to you in which way it is what it is. But you know fight it later.
01:37:05
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that's my, well, I think it's both the faults, someone to look. Yeah. Yeah. There's, there's definitely faults in both sides involved. um They both could have handled the situation better. I was, was just stated so eloquently by a cupboardee.
01:37:17
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um I mean, I've been pulled over way too many times. I can't even count in my life and because I was a horrible driver and Some of the times the cops really really fucked with me. There's been times I've been pulled out of the car like that um And there were times that I was complying and there were times that I was not complying. um I'm not Tyree kill Tyree kill had a little bit of an ego to him. He's going to the game He's high on himself cool, right? You kind of want to you know, do what you do at the same time.
01:37:45
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All that being said and done, first of all, the charge does not warrant anything that would that would involve excessive force. And the fact is that you open the door and didn't even give him a chance to get out before you started pulling them and throwing them to the ground, which, again, is just excessive and unnecessary in the situation because he posed no threat.
01:38:04
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um Now, when the window was down, sure. I mean, when the window was up, sure, you don't know. Maybe as a gun, you don't know what kind of threat he poses. But when you already have your arms on him and you're forcibly putting him to the ground, and then when he's in handcuffs behind his back and you tackle him, like, what are we? What is that nonsense? What are we doing here? What is that bullshit? My man can't even do anything. He has his hands behind his back. yeah was a tank Right, you already got. He wasn't listening though. He wasn't listening. You want to say, oh, this hurts, that hurts. They tell you to get down, get down, get down. Just stop. No. Just get down.
01:38:38
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I get it. Yeah. I hate sounding like that, but you're going to get put down. They're not going to give you a chance. You know what I'm saying? No, that's fine. And he shouldn't have been trying to negotiate, but at this point he was already on the ground sitting down and he got, like, you don't need to do that. You don't need to do that. So, and again, I, I, I've been in this situation. I was going to tell this story about one time me and club, you know, went out, I went to sleep in the car.
01:39:00
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um They pulled me out of the car in the middle of the parking lot at a bar but and I left my keys inside with the group because I didn't want to get a DUI or anything. They pulled me out and essentially did the same thing to me because they were just looking for people in every car trying to find someone who was drunk and they arrested me for it and took me to jail for it.
01:39:18
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Now, before we get out of here, one thing I do want to say is that I don't believe this is anything and like the Scotty Scheffler situation. Yeah, he got taken to jail. Yeah, he got booked, had to stay there for a couple of hours and been taken out. But to me, being thrown down on the ground in front of the public and being assaulted and harassed like that, to me, is more embarrassing embarrassing and hurtful than just taking me and booking me at the station and then releasing me.
01:39:44
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How do y'all feel about that? They're posting their will. They're just trying to oppose their will saying, we're this, we're that, you know what I'm saying? Because they don't want to, when the cops, I'm saying it's because I know a couple of cops and I've heard their side of the things and you know, they're the ones I know are decent cops and I don't think they're bad, but it's just that, you know, so if you, you're working six hours, seven hours shift and you stop somebody and they're giving you every excuse in the world not to get out the car, we're like, no, get out the car. I don't want you on that. Get out. You know, sit down. Sometimes they don't want to hear all that stuff. And, but you know,
01:40:14
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It is what it is. Well, hey, that was a great conversation. I mean, we touched on a whole bunch of topics today. We cracked up a little bit. We had some, had some ah down down moments where we got serious, but we really appreciate everybody tuning in.
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