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Introduction and Automize 4, Episode 154
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Don't let me put it on. I didn't even put it on. yo but da la but and What up, everybody? This is Automize 4. Episode 154.
Sports Fandom and Team Loyalty Debate
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the professor he's my person right i have' his up right now That's right down there to down the again down there when thes in the mic yeah a dick goes be there i don't know where he's at see where he's at a go here i i Like michael 1900 on the Facebook group. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
00:02:35
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Let's my side grindny from es girl we balling but all in memories from the definition of what i hot jake got a podcast all the
00:02:49
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in oh you pick baby taking in the house made it the big one you right man they're already talking noise I can team the Chiefs. Let's go and so i think the line i be the line already so Go you hear me there sex me not to go back to back and go back to bar do like back kind wear red raiders says you know he should play for the red raer but team i' I don't have my my wife i here so much for hers that I can wear.
00:03:29
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can have a second hey ya there's like tricks to all yll' sure this like is hey you have a second te and i thought right You can have a second team, right? come on no oh let's play no can't have a You have a second team, come How can you write to all of too? It's easy. Somebody appreciates Red Ryder's shirt. Holmes, more number five is Number five. Omar, you don't believe in having two teams. You got one team, you got to be solid, and you got to ride with your team. Come on. You can't have two teams, and you know how many times I've proved this, especially when I went to the University of Maryland this past weekend, which is my damn alma mater, and I still was TLA'd out because I root for the team that I've always rooted for my own life. Yes, I love Maryland.
00:04:29
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In the playoffs you would do I give like if there was a Cowboys versus the Chiefs I would vote for the Cowboys first But that's the thing, like, how do you split your love between two teams like that? My love. The lord the loyalty. The loyalty of my husband. Yeah. I know you be i don't hurt always always defer to Cowboys no matter if they play in the regular season, if they play in the playoffs, or if you're skipping around trying to hook on in a bandwagon, a better team is what it seems like. No, no, I was there from the beginning, baby.
Buffalo Trace Bourbon Discussion
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I was there from the game. Oh, gee. Gee. Can I pick up a bottle of Buffalo Trace? Hey, gee. You ever had that in? Hey, gee. It's good stuff. Sip on it. Don't swig it fast. Sip on it. Put it on the rocks.
Introduction to The Bottom Line Show
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On the rocks? Man, when I say bourbon, that is premium bourbon, my friend. I promise you. Wow. It is. A delicacy. A delicacy. Unperfect man. It's good. Is that good stuff? Is that good stuff? No, I said it's a delicacy. That means it's... Oh, it's a delicacy. What did he say? Omar? Omar, he said...
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kidss jets kidss shifts you guys yeah it's good if ilthough you gotta try it man it's good i'll try i'll try buffalo Is it only made in Buffalo or is it just because and no it all like a buffalle is purple crazy it is not a buffalo bill thing right know andff moment before okay i many wonder you don't know i kentu not up i'm not a defend straight
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Okay. Oh, it's from Kentucky. He said, right? Kentucky. Yeah. It's like what first made makers all your, most of your workers. I like Wolford reserve. Wolford's good too. Okay Wolford's good too. My flow traces on the level of Woodford. I would put you on I'm the floor. I get quite a crack down sometimes. That's pretty good not a burber too. fishing auto Yeah, not bad. Yeah. All right. Welcome to the show everybody.
Sports Professor Segment Begins
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This is the bottom line. A lot of stuff going on. NBA sweetened up. man. I mean, where can they find us? Oh, Jan, do you know where they can find us? I'm trying to remember the bottom line sports. You can find us on YouTube, find us on Facebook, find us on what is X X on there. Hey, on all your major social media platforms, the bottom, the most important, most important is what Facebook.
00:07:16
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Facebook group baby join 1900 on the facebook group about hit 2000 foot ago 2k man we'll see yeah all right so uh we like to start out the show with uh one of our favorite segments that i uh named the Sports professors, next bag, bag, bag, bag, bag, bag. All right. He gives us a lot of intel on different things and just, you know, sometimes he'll go off on a tangent on one sport or another. He just, you never know with the professor, but he always comes with the heat and the knowledge on sports in general.
NBA Trade Rumors and Jimmy Butler Discussion
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Sports professor, take it away.
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Yes, I appreciate that wonderful stupid introduction there, sir. Thank you very much. That being said, let's get into it. This week's mixed bag we'll start with in the NBA.
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deep forward Jimmy Butler extended in with Miami that he hasn't been suspended as he is trying to get traded obviously we've seen him force his way out of other places Minnesota right and so now we're seeing this again here in Miami the this is getting pretty bad and i mentioned this a couple weeks ago in the big bag now this was a alpha situation Butler and Riley at Riley going head to head The February 6th is the trade deadline, gentlemen. That is next week. That is next Monday.
00:09:01
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Let's be on the lookout for that. Pete Jimmy Buff should be traded by that point. Next on the on the on the docket, one of one Paul Schemes MLB debut pass. This kid, 11 years old, I won't put his government out there, pulls the one of one autographed debut card. Paul Schemes, the star, pister, pirate rookie last year. The Pirates offered him a Godfather offer, which included season ticket, box,
00:09:30
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all kinds side jus to ease this and that blah but but buth bla But the kid, first of all, he lived in California. First of all, he's not a pirate thing. So the Godfather offered him nothing. Instead, he did the smart thing and parents raised him right. He's putting it up for auction. And not only is he smart enough, his parents want enough to guide him to get his own bag, but he's also,
NHL and WNBA Trade Highlights
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proceeds All kinds of will also be side jerseys, donated this and that, into relief of blah, the LA wildfire. blah, blah. So salute to that 11 year old kid who pulled back.
00:10:04
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wow immigrant joke We've got some trades first in the NHL the Carolina hurricane in the hunt uh for the playoffs obviously a defender for Stanley went ahead and acquired any unrestricted free agent people watching in and Taylor Hall two really good players in the league have been great in the past in a free team trade with the Colorado avalanche and new Chicago placards. This makes sense for the hurricanes as they're going forward all over the time. and they're making these moves better themselves. Colorado, on the other hand, was not going to be able to re-sign Brandon in the summer, so it made sense to get what they could for him in the meantime. WNBA trade. Joe Lloyd, he's time to all-star, traded from the Seattle storm, to a four, Kelsey Plum, who was traded to the Los Angeles Sparks. This was a three-team trade.
00:11:02
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It also involved the Las Vegas Aces, which is where Jewell Lloyd ended up, where she is going to be pairing with the reigning MVP, Asia Wilson, as well as Jack Young and Chelsea Gray. So Las Vegas Aces just keep building, keep working over there.
US Tennis Player's Grand Slam Victory
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Leveraging, I should say, I don't want to say taking advantage, leveraging the situation where Jewell Lloyd had fired out her camp and fought a lawsuit and harassed her in bullying against organizations. I don't know if that actually or they could not find any evidence of that. I can't say that it happened or not. And so she requested a trade. The trade has finally been consummated. And finally in tennis.
00:11:44
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Actually, I got two before, dude. But in tennis, U.S. tennis player, I think he's, yes, salute to her, earned her first ever Grand Slam night on Saturday. That's one of the majors by winning the Australian Open, to defeating the number one player in the world, Ariana Sabalenka. So shout out
NCAA Fines and Regulations Commentary
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to her. Sabalenka. On the men's side, shout out to Janik Skinner.
00:12:12
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who won the men's Australia and my last note Vanderbilt University my uh not my alma mater but where I thought at one of my recent employers I uh do some more support for Vanderbilt uh you gotta you seem to claim a lot of colleges professor yes but the thing differently is that just because I support the school does not necessarily mean I support their athletics okay I got I got Vanderbilt being fined $500,000 after their fans stormed the court after a win over the school has now been fined if you remember they rushed the field and carried the goal post after beating Alabama to the Cumberland Dam River they've now been fined $850,000 this year let me let you know something NCAA
00:13:02
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Does it doesn't matter vanderville one? He's in the world and that is uh couch pocket chip change But don't keep doing
NBA Team Performance and Trades
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it. You can keep finding us all y'all Wow Wow All right, professor, uh, we're going to talk about and NBA anyway. and we'll We'll talk a little bit more about ah Jimmy Butler, but, uh, appreciate your always bringing the knowledge and the, you know, things that sometimes we don't think about, but then other things we forgot about. And then of course, things that sometimes we overlook. Thank you. That was the sports professors. All right.
00:13:50
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ah I got my uh Sounds like back. So i'm a little happy. So all right, so let's go in Speaking of the nba going into the little nba. you so You talked about jimmy butler Uh kind of talk about guys as we're we're waiting on hot tank jake. This is uh jake's uh team the heat i wonder if it's all i'm assuming it's all based on if jimmy butler's there i mean this is his surprise team his dark horse team every year uh calling jimmy butler the next second coming of michael jordan but uh anyway i don't ever saw michael do this but Your thoughts on him trying to get out of this, guys? And like you said, he's done it before, Professor. And thoughts on what would be the best landing spot for him to actually you know make a difference on a team? I know some have talked about Phoenix, but that those talks have kind of haven't gone very far. What are some teams, Cam, that you think would be the best landing spot or even the most likely where he's probably going to end up? Always, Cam. I mean, so when I look at the entire situation, man,
00:14:54
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I mean he was spending for those two yeah those seven games and then and it cost him over $2 million dollars in his salary. When you look at Miami as an entire organization, man, you're dealing with Pat Riley. Pat Riley is a no-nonsense type of individual. He runs a tight ship. He likes things done in decency and order, discipline, structure across the entire board.
00:15:16
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so you know Jimmy Butler's really making a situation hard on himself. If I were him, I would just conform to what the system is about there, play, figure things out, and then move on later. Because him not playing, is ri he's he's really hurting himself. And then what organization wants to bring on a person like that anyway? Right. You know, if I'm a team, you know, why would I bring him on? Okay. value Add it to my organization if he's not being a team player where he's at.
00:15:42
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me out I mean, he's always shown that he can he can make do damage in the playoffs. where You don't think the team out there, maybe with some experience, some mature guys that can take him? the As I said, the most probable place for him, the most probable place for him to fit would probably probably be Phoenix. with a much more With a mature team, with with with those guys, he would he would fit well there with Durant and all those other guys. He would mess well there to me. okay Okay. He wouldn't, he wouldn't fit in a Boston or l LA or no. Cause those teams are already well-developed. Okay. See those guys have already already have the the formula to win. Give me an Eastern team. And you think you might work at, do you have one? You don't, that's fine. I'm just playing. I don't, I don't, I don't have a Eastern team. I don't know.
00:16:30
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Professor your thoughts. I know uh, you and jacob gone back about jimmy butler and the heat and How much of a threat they are to the celtics? I know he always they are afraid of the heat But I mean without a jimmy butler is nothing to be afraid of right but ah Yeah, no, I mean the the celtics are no longer Afraid of the heat that big bad wolf ah left the barn a long long time ago that being said while I will even though we were all what some of us said. I would never say that in every situation you should fully conform to the system and just ah take what's given you. In most cases, sure, especially if you sign a contract. I do agree with that, in that family.
00:17:17
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But at the same time, there's a lot of times, and especially and in the league, in the league, in the NBA, where I'm unhappy and athletes are empowered in the NBA to take control of their own situation. We've seen this done time after time after time with Jimmy Butler, LeBron James, James Harden. Davis, so on and so forth. This has been a trend for a long time now. And at this point, it should come to be expected. Now, does that make it right? No, you have a contract. You should play that contract out. Do I understand why he's upset because that Riley would not give him the extension that he was seeking? Sure. I completely understand that. and that's where negotiations and and things like that come into play and both sides are going to have their feeling about what they're worth and the other side is going to and this really comes into play during baseball when they do the compensation agreements every year about how bad the players are and why they don't want to pay them as much as they should and vice versa so
00:18:33
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If you feel like you deserve to be paid or at least if you feel like you've given and he has, let's be completely honest, he's given them he won a great run of years in which he not only won a championship, but met them in the championship year after year. So maybe he's been thinks he owed a little something from the organization, but as Canteen did astutely point out, that's not how Pat Riley does business. Pat Riley does not go off of what you want. Pat Riley will do what is best for the business. But on the other hand, you are
00:19:12
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not happy about the situation in the NBA, you are okay to voice those frustrations and not force your way out of them. Again, I think if you sign a contract, you should probably stick there, but it's not like teams don't play players all the time, but they don't like their performance. So if you feel like you're not happy in the place and you're not going to be hitting what's necessary for the team to win or the team giving you what's as a player in a human being, well, then you force the way out. Sometimes it's gonna happen. um And to answer your question, my team's sons are where he wants to go. It's gonna be really hard because it'll have to be a three, four, or even a five team trade. If it can happen, and Bradley Beal will have to raise a wave, excuse me, is no trade cause. um you know But also another team, a steeper team possibly looking out for the Warriors.
00:20:03
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I'm looking to make a trade. Honestly, the Lakers, they get desperate enough. And I didn't actually have any teams coming in that I had been hearing much about. But if you if you were somehow, and I don't know that this is possible, but I just got this idea when you asked for the East Coast team. If you could somehow swing a trade for him to get to New York,
00:20:30
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Wow. yeah look I think that would be a great defensive unit at our game. Professor, you said the Knicks will be a good a good swing round? The Knicks? Yeah, I mean, I would have to obviously look into who you... I just thought of it off the top of my head. I would have to look into who we have to trade in, because the Knicks have a really good unit and you don't want to mess up a good thing. Right. But if you bring somebody in at depth that place, at that high of a level, yeah, then again, now that I'm thinking about it, how are you going to make that work?
00:20:56
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Right. You'd have to figure out who you're going to trade. You trade who are future your assets, right. Current assets, you know, yeah. I was thinking Milwaukee might be good. They could use him with the man. Yeah. And, uh, and, and the Giannis, I thought that would be, if they could work some kind of trade there, I think they'll definitely help Milwaukee. But maybe you trade first.
00:21:27
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Yeah, yeah trade Chris Middleton and maybe one of their young players Uh, you know, cause you probably need a couple of players and maybe a draft pick or so a future draft pick or I don't know Yeah, so I mean, you know, Jimmy Butler's still not he's not a spring chicken either He's only got you know, maybe two or three good years left, you know, who knows? maybe wonder i but like the money i get it understand right Right and the only thing is though Are those teams going to pay him what he wants, right? he He's used to being the guy on the team He's not yeah i he's not the guy and you know, obviously Milwaukee. He's not going to be the guy, you know Now so if go ahead No, I can't do the thing not to cut your offload Okay if i'm butler and I want to go to an organizational team that's winning or has the ability to buy for a championship Right i'm gonna take a cut
00:22:19
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I'm gonna take a cut for the ability to get a championship and get a ring. Okay. Let me let me prove myself. Let me show you what I'm capable of. We win the championship. Okay. Let's read. Let's read up and let's try it again next year. And then you cut me a deal. Not me. Go ahead. Go ahead. finish but know you should not not Not me coming in, wanting a ah large lump sum, and I ain't even brought that to the table and prove you anything. That doesn't make sense to me.
00:22:49
Speaker
yeah How many years is on the contract professor do we know I believe he still he only has uh this year and maybe next year i i'll just check the james i don't know okay i believe yeah because if it's only one year maybe maybe he could go to a contender huh he has next year too you do a pretty yeah he goes so tender Maybe he's willing to take uh, you know, take a backseat to another another guy and maybe go for a championship hope you know in a straight flow actually both yougainst and points are I think that that contract is up
00:23:23
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but with no you want nodo right contract at this point um with his decline in plague right and his age you know growing father time never you know fails I don't know that he will necessarily be able to get anywhere near that contract from anyone, as you mentioned. Yeah, by the way, so find a three year one hundred and forty six million dollar contract with the heat. He will earn forty nine million this season and he holds a player up for next year valued at fifty two and a half million. So he has a player option for 50 million. He's so fed up that he wants to leave. That's crazy. He's leaving 50 million. He's crazy. He's crazy. I mean, hey and he's just that unhappy. you know what i mean that's a lot of money though i don't know jake your thoughts i know this is
00:24:13
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i think they unhappy asza all right exactly Yeah, I mean what it's obvious that there can't be I don't know if there maybe you'd think jake there can be uh A reconciliation with the heat, but it looks like it's it's inevitable. They're gonna trade him. We're talking about where should he go? Where could he go? And who's really gonna give no one's gonna give him an extension because he's probably gonna go to a contender That's already got a star. What do you think jake? know uh, jake your thoughts. I know I think they need to follow to what Jimmy Butler says. I think he's done far too much for this organization from being bottom of the bearer and straight crap since LeBron left you and said you will not have another damn rink. He's actually taken this team two years into a finals with an ah under average team, not above average. You paid everything to help LeBron. You did nothing for him. His best player he got was Tyler Herro.
00:25:09
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Y'all you did was, ah he had Wade, he had Bosch, and I'm a LeBron fan, but he had the biggest players. You didn't give him shit. You know, I do believe he, hell yeah. And this is what happens as, and and there's a team out there in the NFL, I know who we're talking about, as owners get older and general managers get older, they start thinking of the past that it's the old ways. It's not, buddy. And especially in the NBA, we've learned this From the get go, the superstars control the league. If you get a superstar, they become, they make your team great. That's the only time you become, chair it's not the NFL. It's not the NFL at all. The NFL you can build up. You need superstars eventually to control your team in the NBA. So absolutely, Jimmy Butler deserves exactly what he and wants. And I would take, if yeah I'm him,
00:26:05
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I tell them guys, I want contenders with me automatically. Don't not trade me to a bum team after what I've done for your franchise the past seven years. He doesn't have that kind of control there, does he? I'll tell you this right now. Then Pat Riley is going to see him sit there and not get money for him.
00:26:22
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guy oh man is my garage dust yeah g pig but and nobody looking at people can say That's why I have this background so no one looks at my background tell me so no but um but it's got like everybody yeah yeah but tell dont why you lived there hey nick so jake what I don't think it's going to be, you you can reconcile this. I think they're going to trade him. It's inevitable. Where does he go? What's the best fit for him at this point? He found him. I go to Phoenix.
00:27:00
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and I don't want him to go to Phoenix. right Me personally don't want to go to Phoenix because you're practically making can work a deal an overrated, ru an overrated Rudy Gay, as I've always said, Kevin Durant's Rudy Gay of this era. um And then you got to deal with the the whole aspect of okay it' play sea defense over there um the ruy gay of this era david deran' all guys got come an overrated pop game and play all time probably He's been an above-average Rudy Gay his last half of his career. I call a spade a spade He has done nothing to change rudy gay my opinion as I said, but this was personally I would go to Let me tell you something. There's some teams out there that you could really try. I know
00:27:49
Speaker
I was thinking but the butts would be great or the or dallas Well, i'll say this if I could stay in the east go to the nicks or something I know and I can compete against the Celtics I do that in a heartbeat I would do that in a heartbeat But who what could the next give up? I'm trying to figure out who they would give up. I mean, they just they just brought in some new players Hey Miami check whatever you can grab buddy because i'm sitting on the bench till then jar oh he backney bringing him back i don't think' stuff i think the i't think know i I mean the trade lines coming up if nothing happens by the trade deadline though professor, what do you think is he just Okay
00:28:31
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but that's only think by the tread deadline that he'll be gone dar okay okay ro and harbe All right. so i say you pick Hey, so what I was trying to say is that the kid that pulled the card, I believe he's in California and I believe he's not even a pirate span. Those tickets aren't worth anything to him because he Complete waste rail. What are you saying? You could sell them though. I could just sell them. So you could, you could get the million dollars. Maybe that that's worth away. It's probably not a million dollars, but a half million dollars and put it in the but and into stocks or in the bonds and yeah right maybe they make money off it that way and make more.
00:29:07
Speaker
Okay. look at it that's fair Okay. So let's get another, another topic. I wanted to bring up, uh, one of the professor's favorite topics here. Uh, the Boston Celtics. Oh, here we go.
00:29:23
Speaker
So professor, let me like decide. I'll let can go first. I'll let can go first, but, uh, yeah. So. This is how they've looked 19 and 4 13 and 11 December their last 24 games are really struggling Here's the other thing professor Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum both of their minutes are up from last year. They're struggling It seems like they're showing signs of fatigue even though they're playing more minutes They're not doing well. The second part of the season that they've played, uh, are the, ah should they be worried? Can with this, uh, seems like they're playing a little too much one-on-one, not of spacing too much, you know, dribbling and you one-on-one stuff. I don't know if that's a winning formula in the playoffs. You got to have a little more ball movement. Uh, for me, for me, what do you think? Man, as I stated, man, I mean, these guys got up until February 14th.
00:30:18
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they They need to ball out until all February 14th through 16th all-star weekend. Once all-star weekend hits, then after that, that's when these guys got to really go all gas, no brakes. Because after that, you got about a month and a half up until April, and that's when they separate the men from the boys when it comes playoff time. Now, right now, Cleveland Cavaliers are in first place. The only thing that I'm concerned about is that the Boston Celtics are five and a half games behind.
00:30:44
Speaker
And the stars are playing more minutes and the stars are playing more minutes the stars are playing more minutes or two stars That you know, that's not a concern for them Just self-improvement. I think they'll be fine, bro. I think they'll be fine. okay i they know i bet no kicking gear I want to hear how I jagged in a minute, but see becomes back i billion they go no i go left my team lift take I'm trying to about where he's at. I but then but then like I said, you got the capillaries of 37 and nine sepsis of 32 and 15 Yeah, then you here's my thing Dan Go ahead. I'll kind of give my pick my my my Kind of my thoughts, you know, because if you're up in jail and brown in day centennas minutes from last year and they're still struggling at this point when you do
00:31:33
Speaker
I think that's not a good thing because you're going to run into the playoffs with these guys are going to be worn out. I don't think they're used to playing the minutes that they're playing, and they at least not in the recent past. And now you're playing them harder, longer minutes. I don't know that that's a winning formula for them. They do do a lot of one on one stuff. and that they They continue to shoot threes, continue to shoot lots of threes or kind of live and die by the three. And that's very easy. You can very easily die by the three.
00:32:03
Speaker
Uh, if you're not hitting so I don't know and they're struggling right now and professor. He doesn't seem to be worried Uh, you know no you hair eat You have any any indications that any of the fans are worried about this sluggish?
00:32:19
Speaker
perfect half You know, I don't have this. I'm as cool as Jayden Daniels in the in the NFC playoffs. i I'm sorry. to this is This is what I like to call a mid-season malaise, my friend. Okay. This is a angle.
00:32:45
Speaker
all this because even my friends when you look at where they they lost four out of seven games or where they went. They just lost to the Lakers. Okay, it was in LA and it was back to back after they played the Clippers in a really tough game. um So look I'm not here to make excuses. Every team is going to lose games every season. Every team is going to go to a tough stretch. You are right, they shoot way too many threes. And that is something that if you are having an off night, you're going to lose those games. But if you're on the majority of the time, they win those games. Yes, in their losing streak and in their little rough match that they've had recently, their three point shooting has been down, their defense has regressed, their free throw shooting has regressed. But again, my friend,
00:33:39
Speaker
I attribute all of these things to a little bit of a mid-season malaise. And so, I agree with Canteen. I am not worried. Now, if you come to me after the All-Star break... Okay. ...if you come to me a couple weeks after the All-Star break, maybe mid-March-ish, and we're still playing like this and we don't get it together... Okay. ...yeah. Okay. ...I would prefer to be a little concerned. Okay. But my point is that even with the down rough patch that we've had and the little losing streak that we had... Okay. our fris our rankings, our defensive and offensive efficiency were still in the top 10. So we were playing a couple of teams, we were having town games, but our team in general is still the best team in the league. They just are playing
00:34:25
Speaker
With a little bit of but we ah little bit of stum burnness a little bit of a little bit of are we challenging ourselves enough? A little bit of uh, do you think see things back to too much? ISO with jt and jb back in the bar. I agree Do you do you think maybe, ah maybe a professor, you know, as they're trying to repeat, this is a little bit of that kind of just trying to get through the season and just get to the playoffs and that's all we care about at this point. They're trying to stay motivated just to get to the playoffs. Of course, they're trying to find any way to stay motivated. When you are the best team in the league and you are the championship right into the the league, it's very easy. What's up, champ? Right there, Flo.
00:35:13
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uh i i i wish number d uh was in the chat remind me uh but actually uh so it is you probably know mr foxy fan there was a box i don't remember it was in the 80s but he said you know It's really tough to want to wake up and go to training camp when you sleep in his silk sheets. You know what I mean? So if you are the champion and you are comfy, sometimes a little kick in the ass to get you going. And that's all. To get you in gear, to get you going. right
00:35:46
Speaker
i just bowl I want to say it was. Thank you, champ. Appreciate it. And that's a good point. Thank you. No, you're fine. Or Zingus just got back two weeks ago. Brown, literally, for a little bit. So, you know, the gold team, the starting five, has not even played more than, I believe, like a combined, they've only played for now two weeks. The other side probably played a combined maybe 100, 200 minutes. So that's why I was doing something. Hmm.
00:36:17
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Okay. All right. Yeah. I mean like you said, what is the last repeat we've had? I don't know, No, you know what I'm about to say. I think it was Marvin Hagler. Hey, there you go. I see it. Yeah. So clubber.
00:36:43
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Okay, there's jake back. So your thoughts on the on the seltics we do you saw the graphic I hope uh, but they're struggling the second half the second basically Uh, you know 13 and 11 in the last 24 games Uh, and ah professor says there is no concern from from seltics land And unless this continues into well into after the all-star break Uh, this is when he'll be concerned right now. He thinks it's just They're just trying to get through the season, get to the playoffs. They're trying to stay motivated. What are your thoughts? um I think the pressure is starting to get to them. Let me tell you why. Oh, pressure. They know. They know that they lucked out of a championship win. Boy, would did you talk about the luckiest championship you've ever seen in years? Let me call that a space. When you won the damn little kid, Disney bubble championship. stoping
00:37:42
Speaker
Stop crashing out. Let the master talk. Let me tell you something. This is how scary it's about to be for you. Oh, scary. Scary is on you right now. The thing is Jason Tatum. you This is no doubt my mind. Okay. Jason Tatum.
00:38:07
Speaker
better, more than anything in the world, show up this year and he better if he goes to the finals or in the Eastern Conference Finals. They they better go to the Eastern Conference Finals no matter what. but he better be the best player on there because he has a Clay Thompson syndrome. What I mean by that, guys, is he is on the borderline for being the automatically being known as the number two a star player at most. No superstar for me. What do you have to show up and show up? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
00:38:46
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before Steph Curry won that last ring. Hold on, when when they did, when Steph Curry had not won that last ring and he had no MVP, finals MVP, we killed him for not being there, for having somebody else carry in the finals.
00:39:05
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clock tell me that you're
00:39:18
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make up his own damn championship parade it wow each of his own
00:39:25
Speaker
having a Kanye West moment. I guess we'll never know. Shut up, man. Make your own movements. Make your own moments. Show me that you deserve to be a superstar in this league. And stop being carried by Jayla Brown. What does that do with a champion? Wow. each average Because right now, Omar, he's about to be on the brink of being known as a star player. And I know this for a fact. The pressure is mounting. It's one thing to win a lucky ring. To win it two times in a row? That's special. If it wasn't for Yokich and SJ having the seasons they they are now, hidden it would be your MVP. Oh, stop. This guy's reaching.
00:40:10
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Hey, so, uh, and then one thing I mentioned, you were, you were still trying to get, uh, get back in Jake. I said, I, I told Omar that Jalen Brown and Jason Taylor's minutes are up from last season at this point. Is that a concern? Are they going to start to wear out as they go into the playoffs? And Omar said, no.
00:40:25
Speaker
No, no, no what saves their ass is the East is so damn cheap and there's nobody there their toughest opponent is And he's not even he's not even playing right now. So that's all they got to worry about. They got nothing to worry about You had no faith in the calves. Look at the cat. I told you what the calves are to me. They're the 2010s Atlanta Hawks. Remember those Atlanta Hawks teams that That LeBron had to sweep. Don't do that. Don't do that. They got to one team, one of those years, and everybody was like, hey, man, what do you think of the hot? No, I've never taken the Cavs serious. That's what you do. You try to throw shade on all of both teams, man. I don't know the cab the abs would have been pretty good They don't want to see Denver if they see Denver it's a smack in the face and they know it too They look pretty good Star player if they get Jimmy, I got you. There's Yeah, it's Bronson or go home
00:41:34
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They got me killed right here. Is that you talking crazy, man? He's average, bro. They got Carl Anthony Towns. He looks good with that team. Carl Anthony Towns has made a difference there. Kat, Kat. OK, who's the number two? We know Kevin runs his number one. Who's number two? I would say Kat. You don't win a championship with Kat being your number two. If he's a solid four, your fourth best option, that's what makes you elite. Or either that or OG. I'm a newbie. I'm telling you right now.
00:42:05
Speaker
He needs to be your fourth best option. That's your second. If he's your second, I mean, he's averaging 25 points. His cat said you crazy man. They got the next, the next play defense. The thing is, is their offense gets very stale after Jalen Brunson cannot stay hot. That's the bad thing about them.
00:42:24
Speaker
Okay. All right. So, uh, let's look at the West here. Uh, the Thunder, there seem to be the favorites right now, but they're the, I like to call them the frisky Houston Rockets. Uh, the ex Boston Celtics coach, he seems to be a great coach. I don't know. oh he go away he made that you think They made a big mistake letting him go, but man, he has the Rockets playing really well. A young team.
00:42:48
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Any thoughts, any challenges to the Thunder, besides maybe the Rockets, the Nuggets are starting to look better. um Your thoughts ah on the on some things going on in the West, Canteen?
00:43:00
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Here's the thing, man. i think that you know I think that we've allowed people's personal scandals and people's personal defects to get in the way of their professionalism. I think he he would have done well if he had to stay at Boston. He's a great coach, but then, like I said, personal, you you don't mix business with pleasure. So as you can see, by them getting rid of him, he showed up to the occasion. The Rockets are 31 and 14. They're in second place in the West. That speaks volumes about the organization flow.
00:43:30
Speaker
Yeah, im mean I there's a man thompson. He had he said he had a kobe moment. He felt like kobe there Uh winning that last second shot a man thomp is it thompson oh yeah no um to we have that laptop yeah Yeah. Amen. Thompson. He had that that last second shot where he beat the, he beat the stuff. He's feeling Brown stumbled a little back. Oh, he jumped her to win the game. Okay. Okay. Okay. We get it. You want to game point be very happy. Could that be turning for him?
00:44:01
Speaker
I mean, who cares? We're out teams by 25 and you're as a bad season, but you're this team winning by two p get their props, right? R team, great coach. Am I couldn't have done. It got put out in the open. Do I believe that it should have got put out in the open? No, I believe people do find it in business. But somehow it got out there and when the cat is out in the bag, well, you got to somehow get the cat back in the damn bag. And how you do that is getting rid of the coach. We have an even better coach now. Joe Missoula, I believe, is a better coach. And Emei Uduka and Spitz are team better. That being said, Emei Uduka, the coach went over and proved that he's a good coach with the rocket. They have now beat, they beat the Cavs twice. And as you mentioned, they beat my Celtics two nights ago.
00:44:46
Speaker
So that is, uh, or last night, excuse me. So that is three wins over the top two teams in the East over the past. Uh, Amen. Thompson is playing a lot better. He recorded his first quarter triple double on Saturday, uh, on when Donovan Mitchell was his primary defender. So yes, these young players are getting better at emo, email. Don't know how to coach young teams to their potential.
00:45:12
Speaker
think and in the caveat on and carryat on the professor he knows how to develop the young players development development But the thing for young players is, can you continue to have the young players play well, deep into the season, and even more importantly, when it's crunch time in the playoffs? And we'll get a preview of that coming up into the All-Star Break because the Rockets, because their game got postponed in Atlanta, was rescheduled for Tuesday. He They knows how have to develop the young players four back-to development-backs between now and the All-Star Break. So we will see where they really stand after that.
00:45:49
Speaker
and So who's who's your team to challenge possibly the thunder in the west? but sir Yeah, I I had that my my power rankings had to at houston three Okay after watching houston, uh win these two games against the pads and one game against the subs and after watching the grizzlies Uh have a pretty little rough schedule there of the past week after having a very soft Schedule early in the season i'm starting to lose a little bit of confidence in them, especially because marcus part is not his bird again And uh, you know pretty much scaring that team exactly isn't really playing on working of the year Okay, uh your thoughts uh jake, I know you want to hit the lakers too, but your thoughts on who's gonna challenge the looks like the thunder in the west
00:46:40
Speaker
but i Think right now you have to I don't see the test. Why are we believing in the Rockets? It's so fast. They're too young. They're too young I don't know why we fall for every season. Well, no You can be well coached all you want. These guys are are as young as babies right now. They don't know crap Sorry, I don't take you seriously It's the facts on facts. Yeah on fags Yeah, we get out of here um and I do but as I said Think about this, and really think about this out there to help. Hey, if you think Bridges is gonna help him win a chip, you're crazy. Golly, man. That guy's drunk. I can tell you right there off of that damn message. As I said, look. you talk couple chocolate fan like that you talking to your fellow fuck boies brave Nuggets. I'm the best team that would challenge them. okay I don't want to go crazy. We know what my Lakers are doing right now. I love what's going on over there.
00:47:39
Speaker
The Rockets are so athletic. Let me tell you something. When you're young like that, how do you make a bet this team's out in the first round? Lakers don't do it. Get another piece. They're not even going to make the playoff, the playing game. What are you talking about? They just want four straight. Anthony Davis is under 10 right now. They're always hyped us up by a little winning streak. And then all of a sudden they're not looking like them Celtics over there. I'll tell you that. They have to prove those moves against the Wizards and the Hornets. So two of those wins against the Wizards and the Hornets.
00:48:05
Speaker
And all I know is Anthony Davis is showing you what he can do to be a leader. All I'm telling you, sha be you ready. And hold on. Anthony Edwards is showing up, bro. I'm telling you, that boy is starting to scare people. He's getting up there. like Scare people. ah Once he figures out the double team, and I think he already is, I think he's about there. They're going to be a very scary out.
00:48:33
Speaker
Why who's who's the timber what was number two guy? I mean who's going to be there to help him out? I think when you have a superstar like that, that's a real superstar So you don't know he need nobody that's a kobe with the pal. Gasol where you didn't need every star remember you just everybody needs a star around you Everyone needs that in guy the number two guy that's going to help him score. Go bear can help him defensively. That's all i did That's it. Give him room to go bear. I don't think they can make a run with just anthony go better if i mean if they If they want to admit their follies and their avalanche of mistakes that got them to this point with their imaginative creative roster building that went had them go out and trade for first round picks for Rudy Gobert.
00:49:19
Speaker
By all measures there's going to be a great trade fence if he's been the defensive player a year a couple of times But absolutely he's after 10 in 10, so he's giving them he's giving them defense and rebounds But when they did that they also compromised the ability of cat to succeed Which is why then they had the trade get and now when they get back julius brando who hasn't really done nothing maybe a Fort option at best at this point and dante diva gendo was hurt So basically they traded their second best player away for Well, the jewish man was averaging 19 points a game. That's not bad. He's averaging 19 points a game and seven of seven rebounds He's not like a bust Yeah
00:50:03
Speaker
Okay. All right. Any, any thoughts on the, on the west side or you, you were going to talk about the Lakers. I know you want to. I would say the Knicks have a better surrounding cast. than the denber wosstone camp That's what I would say. When you take Jane, let me get this straight. Is he trying to tell me Jalen Brunson is as good as Anthony Edwards right now?
00:50:25
Speaker
That's what I mean by that. but No, no, no, what no, no. What he's saying, what he's saying is that he's saying that Nick's got a ah better supporting cast. What he has than Edwards. Right. And what I'm saying is there's a superstar in Anthony Edwards. There ain't no being a superstar. That's a star over there in New York. I'm not hearing that crap. He don't play defense the way that boy does. Okay. So, but he does it on both sides. Look at what what he says here. the Thunder.
00:50:53
Speaker
Remember how many picks they have? They have accumulated hordes of first and second round picks that they can take. Do you see how I don't laugh at the thunder anymore? Do you see how I don't laugh at the thunder anymore? Because they've aged. That's what I mean. Remember, I didn't pick the thunder the past two years. They were too young. That's all I'm saying about the rockets. They're exactly the thunder of two years ago when everybody was thinking, oh man, the thunder are in the top two seats. But we never took them seriously. Because that you have to go through those growing pains. You have to crawl before you walk. Now the thunder are starting to show me with experience, they can be a legitimate threat.
00:51:30
Speaker
in the NBA finals and make it there and actually be a champion. Absolutely. They definitely have to get Chet healthy. I don't think they can make a run without Chet. No, they can't. But he's coming back hopefully I think in the next week, I believe. If not, they may bring him back after the All-Star break. But I think that SGA is a alpha dog like Edwards who can carry a team. But obviously, yes, getting Chet back would make them that much better as them.
00:51:57
Speaker
Okay, and then they have jelly williams, uh, he's the second around santa cara He's 21 points a game. He's giving him some scoring Uh at the power forward. So uh, yeah, we'll see what happens I mean, they seem like they have a deep team like they have a lot of people who contribute to their success along with sga being kind of the leader of that team so float Yeah, not not not not to cut you off. I don't know about the basketball situation up man. Oh, go ahead Guys, if you had if you had to pick two teams right now Just i just lay on the table Who would you guys rock with right now? If the season ended today two teams that that you felt they could go to distance right now from each one for me I'm not tuning to
00:52:43
Speaker
Yeah, one for me is Congress. Right now, that's early. That's really early. I won't be a homer and choose my Celtics, but I would say then if I couldn't choose the Celtics, I would go with the Knicks and the Thunder. I'm not going to put my bias. I'm just asking you. I just want to see what you think. I know you put the Lakers in there probably. No, right now I have the Nuggets right now. The Nuggets are going to be the most. And then on the East,
00:53:14
Speaker
i would have to say the celtics because there's nobody in the east right now yeah yeah he roll his eyes i like the calves i like them what the calves are doing uh i'm gonna go with the calves i think they're there for real um I think they're for real. I like Donovan Mitchell what he's doing. Uh, Evan Mobley, uh, Jared Allen, I like all these guys I think they're playing really well together and they can stay healthy. Uh, their stars can stay healthy I think they can make ah a little bit of a push there. Uh, it'll be between them the Celtics. I think the Celtics still got the
00:53:47
Speaker
the pole position so to speak uh has the defending champions i'll give them some deference uh because of that but i i think also i like the thunder over in the in the west though i think the thunder are for real that they're finally like i think i like what jake said that they were young and i think now this is their time to go and make a run uh they'll probably end up being them in the nuggets at this point but i think the the thunder are for real right now and they could make a run to the uh championship They're first in a lot since uh kd left The what's-his-name rudy gay of the of the west welcome be that I mean that nothing since he left the warriors All right, any final thoughts on that damn thing? No, sir. All right but real goes a bit of a
00:54:44
Speaker
I'm lazy. Okay. All right. So as we go as we move on to the uh, nfl let's talk a little bit with us last week or when was it live sunday surge we kind of mentioned this a little bit and you guys can tell we don't take too much time on it, but uh Professor you're the one that put in you know about the tush push briefly talked about should we ban the tush push Uh, what should we do? Uh, you know, what's the I think and I thought about it for a little while for me I think maybe the first step instead of just outright banning it is allowing the defense to do the same thing because they can't push From behind they can't stack the line and push from behind Why don't you allow if if they're set up in that kind of formation allow the defense to do the same? And I think that that will
00:55:26
Speaker
Kind of alleviate i don't think they'll be as successful if you kind of match kind of wait for weight and you know Kind of the same type of formation if they're allowed to do something similar to push from their side I think that you kind of evens things out and then people will quit doing it as much. I mean, that's just my opinion What do you guys think? I mean for me man, I mean Because it is an ugly play It is, and man, like I said, my mind is winding back over and over and over over that over that one that one player that appeared in that game. And if they ran a play like three or four times and then they put the thread out about that, that if they didn't stop doing certain things that they were going to let them score a touchdown, they're going to call it those punches, different things like that. man So I don't know. I think that they'll they'll regroup and go over to something like that when they have like the NFL, when they bring all the um owners and different, all the owners and
00:56:18
Speaker
Stuck together when they have like the big NFL minis and kind of regroup and talk about it, man I don't even and and and and and And not the circumvent from what i'm talking about right there flow The the whole kickoff rule is stupid, too Okay, you don't like the kickoff rule is stupid Okay, you don't like that. Okay, that's fair But but yeah your thoughts on me allowing the defense to do a tush push so that they speak on their side Oh, man, you don't think that works? I don't think that'll help me because if you're able to kind of stop it slow it down I think people will quit doing this, but what do you think professor?
00:56:48
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Yeah, I would actually have to see the mechanics behind it, see the physics behind it. I'm sure that they can do a quick study using the computer and using the weight of like average blind men against each other to see how the physics would be because what happens with the physical is a lot of those offensive blind men are getting so deep and underneath their defenders and pushing up when the when the running back or the pullback pushes on the back of Jalen Hurst, it's very easy to just leanno orit tight and lean over yeah right and get that get that arm over. At this point, I i am i am in full and wholehearted belief
00:57:27
Speaker
that this is now, it's and i I thought it was last year when they got away with it so much and they did it so many times and I was like, okay, but you know, why is it?
00:57:42
Speaker
other teams can't replicate that on offense and we've seen other teams tried to and they have limited success um So to me that means that there's there's more to this than what should be legally possible This is a little bit of uh, uh, I don't want to say cheating because it's in the rules that you can do it or it's not against the rules at least but in the spirit of the game of football in the spirit of uh, of of of fair play
00:58:17
Speaker
I think that that play is pretty much cheating because you're basically giving the offense everything they need to get a touchdown and not allowing the defense to stop the play. And when you stop things, like a person trying to time their jump over the line, no matter how it's seen, you may think that is.
00:58:36
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Mr. Hockily, or yes, it is in the rules that you can award a touchdown, but you'd really look like a jackass if you did that. um It hasn't been done for the night.
00:58:48
Speaker
ah Um, it's got something better to be done. I again, I don't know about the physics of what you're talking about. If I was a team, and I would definitely trying that, especially if to just add against that. But I don't think the defense is allowed to do that. I don't think they're allowed to push from the, it's allowed in the rules for the defense to counter. What I think is more that is along the lines of what everybody's saying and what Andy said, when they go back into these NFL owners meetings, they need to be able for the offense to do the same thing.
00:59:17
Speaker
like not to come to our floor but they they they they need to like really evaluate the entire game and look at look at what's was what's major, what's minor and just evaluate the entire game man.
00:59:29
Speaker
Okay, and you're saying you thought from the kickoff rule that professor that can doesn't like Um, okay, so I get why they change the kickoff everybody does because cte and and and head injuries and concessions completely understands um, but at this point When only like five percent of your kicks are being returned and most of them are being fair caught or going right?
00:59:53
Speaker
And yeah, what is really the point either have the kickoff in full or just give them the ball starting at the 20 30 yard line and call it a day yeah Yeah, right could they make an adjustment and say make the landing zone bigger like extended to the end zone You would have to you would have to make you would have to bring the defense closer like maybe five yards closer to where the off where the where the receiving team can actually have time to block because right now the first defenders are like 10 yards away that gives them a running start which can allow them to tackle the returner if you want the returner to actually have a chance to return the ball you need to allow those those receiving team people to get their hands on the defenders which you can only do if you're close enough right okay jake
01:00:42
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Um, here's what i'll say on the whole uh, the whole uh eagle thing. Let me tell you something guys And I had to talk this with my friends And they brought up a good point. Let me tell you something Yeah, you're damn right Let me add this in guys straight man Um, I I was thinking yeah, it hurts the NFL in a way but really doesn't Omar just brought up a point. Omar said, no other team has figured this out. Mind you, think about this. When Steph Curry and Klay Thompson changed the game and started hitting threes from everywhere, did we go up to the Warriors and say, guys, you're cheating a little bit. Y'all know how to make threes. Nobody else does. We're going to go ahead and move that three point line more farther away because you're cheating too much. No, we're not doing that at all. Here's why Omar because nobody in the el in the league can do exactly what they do. I'm sorry. They figured out a system. They're the only team to have ah a quarterback that's 5'11 that can squat 600 pounds. They have a running back that can push him like no other and they have a tight end just as sh strong. That's why this this should not be banned. The Eagles are the only team that have mastered this how you got a sixth 6'6 quarterback that couldn't get a damn yard over there in Buffalo this past weekend trying to do the same thing!
01:02:03
Speaker
cut the art Well, they had a different they have a different style of that. They're kind of more upright and I'm sorry, guys. We've got to sit with it the same way. We got to sit with the changes of how the offense has an advantage. It's the same way that the Eagles established. It's smart as hell. They don't play first and 10 like everybody else. They play first and eight because they know they have a play that they can figure out and out smart. You got to give credit where credit's due. I'm sorry. yeah Any thoughts on the kickoff game?
01:02:33
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okay I think they should take it away completely. um i would I would make it another, I would do the fourth down in twenty and then you get the ball back. I would do that no matter what. To kick off or do a fourth and 20. I would do that more.
01:02:57
Speaker
What about just the regular pick up the way it is now? They have a landing zone and all that. I i think that the the play has died down. There's no excitement no more and into it. so So either you do the onside kick type of which is that fourth and 20? I think that they've uh kind of told about or you just start at the 25. The xfl does that I think xfl. Yeah, that's one of their rules. Yeah. Okay. not Only that xfl has a damn ball that tells you if they hit the first down. Why is the nfl so basic and still waiting on the damn changed give me a ball that tells me what's first down.
01:03:32
Speaker
because that's bull crap. I agree. If we have this technology, which the XFL does, the NFL, yeah the other smartest, to the smartest league in the rich and all the leagues the the richest money and y'all can't figure that out yet. That's even worse. They got money and still won't even do it. That's bad. Yeah. I mean, if tennis could do it, tennis does it and or seems to work out pretty good. I don't know. The NFL should be able to be able to do something like that. They should have done that because we would figure that out. Josh Allen thing after all.
01:04:01
Speaker
I don't think he made it. So anyway, all right, so let's go. So the Bills and the Ravens ah kind of were the favorites kind of going in along with the Chiefs late into the season. ah So and here's here's kind of my my question and for you guys. um So who?
01:04:19
Speaker
Who out of Lamar and Josh will be the next to kind of get over the hump? Is they both kind of, or will it just be my homes, you know, and it just hits to lose? Will it be maybe burrow? Who's the next guy to make it to the, to the Superbowl out of those quarterbacks? So it's kind of, cause all the, most of the big star quarterbacks are in the AFC. Who do you think is going to break through and make the, the Superbowl will burrow go back again? Will Lamar or Josh finally break through? What are your, what are your thoughts?
01:04:47
Speaker
and So I think the Bills have lost, what, four out of six times to the Chiefs in the last, like, six times they played them? They're 0-4 in the playoffs. What's that? They're 0-4 in the playoffs. They're 0-1 in the regular season. Yeah, so that that's that's bad, man. and i And I think the Bills play really, really phenomenal throughout the duration of the regular season, but they cannot get over the hump. The Marjacks, they're kind of in the same boat. They they they do well, and and they both get to the playoffs, but it's like,
01:05:17
Speaker
My home is on a whole different platform and andy ree has a scheme andy ree has a game plan andy ree Coaches in such a way that propels his team To find ways to win man If I but you had to pick one If I had to pick one of those guys that I think that that'll win a super bowl or get to a super bowl at least I gotta go to lamar. Lamar is gonna be the first one Yeah, let me tell me why what's your but what's your biggest reason? So when you look at the empty when you look at the energy you drive the Honda I'm just mad. Look man. Look flow you can look you gotta stop trying to downplay that brother. No, go ahead. Just give me some reasons. Why you think Lamar? be you'd be trying you'd be trying to I'm just saying i'm
01:05:59
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these never up on here but
01:06:07
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All right, man, so when you look at the afc north man, I mean you look at We don't really know the fate of pittsburgh at this point at this point, you know We don't know if russell wilson's gonna stay there russell wilson may end up moving because you know, um, so your pick came over burrow who Lamar tim get to the super bowl over burrow And that because they have the same division. That's all it's hard to say flow because like I said, look Burrow had Burrow started out strong, but Burrow got no Burrow started out bad and they picked up and then they kind of tanked too. It's why he didn't he played. Well, there's a defense that let him down this year and his numbers were good. His numbers are great. So it's. You still got Lamar just because you like him or what? What do you think if Lamar Todd Monken and hard Bob they can get it in gear. I think they can win a Super Bowl man.
01:07:00
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So you think, you think it's more Lamar underperforming the playoffs can, or you think it's more the coaching, letting them down. coaching coaching You put on that. Okay. coach may There ain't, there ain't, there ain't, there ain't no way to have good seasons. I think they wanted to visit, right? They wanted to visit AFC North. Right. And, and, and, and, they and they go through the cycle repeatedly, man, and not win. That's that's to me, it doesn't make any sense.
01:07:26
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Okay, our professor your thoughts on who do you think uh, and why do you think that person? what do i but ah give Give me some thoughts on you know, your reasons for who you like. Yeah.
01:07:41
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we will not allow the disparagement totally entertainment of bar jacks and that is ridiculous i did not allow that i'm turning that up all right not being maybe he played manning maybe he could say he's playing manning until he broke the room this is easy for me first of all the question was okay who will be the first to make the super bowl you didn't say who will win other than my homes yeah the first to make the super other than my homes or will burn be the one that kind of goes back now that's crazy First of all, the the bills as good as Josh Allen is have proven that they still need more pieces around him, especially on the offensive side. um and partly helps What organization do you trust to give him the pieces to next year? You know, right? OK, one of that is organization.
01:08:25
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okay i agree And then if you look at Joe Burrow, I'm going to let Jake handle that because I know he'll astutely ah vote for him. But if you're looking at me, if they are going to lose T Higgins and their off offensive line is still not healthy and the defense still needs building. Okay. Now you're telling me you still need two teams that still need building. But when I look at both of them,
01:08:46
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I look at a complete team. The only thing really they could use honestly at this point is a number one quarterback in the secondary and a number one receiver. And even then they got enough number twos that they can get by and they got they still have Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson and Jackson together I believe Baltimore can make it next year before any other team now that's what the question was you didn't say if they would win or not you just right if they would make it yeah but yeah or
01:09:21
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Okay. So ah what do you attribute that? jake I mean, or, oh, professor, what do you attribute the the lack of success in the playoffs? Is it more Lamar tidying up? Is it more just bad play calling, bad preparation by the coaches? What do you attribute the the lack of success in the playoffs? Cause they only, they seem to win a game and then somehow they don't play as well. Uh, you know, the next game or sometimes even the first game, they just seem to not play as, as well.
01:09:47
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Lamar as well. you mar If we're looking at this honestly and you're looking at the involvement of the Ravens in the playoffs, then yes this year would involve an issue with coaching. We know that they should have running the ball with Derek Henry, know that they should have by design even more runs for Lamar Jackson. Obviously hardball should have picked up a little defense the players in the off season they should have held on to match your queen all things in a roster building putting uh maneuvers bye
01:10:23
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Before that, in the first two years of the Ravens failures, I would have put it on Lamar for just not being a full blown great quarterback and he was still developing. So in the early, I would have put on Lamar this year. I'm definitely putting it on coaching. And if everything can come together next year, the Baltimore Ravens can win the championship. Okay. but did we think that you do theylabo a professor nature i might I just, I feel like professor, this was their year. They had a healthy Derek Henry, who knows what happens to him next year. We know the running backs once they hit that 30 Mark, yeah ah they start to to dwindle, but maybe he, they gro me and but this was a year he stayed healthy. They had a great running game.
01:11:07
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with lamar even running the ball and for some reason they decided that to kind of abandon that i mean he didn't even have that many uh kind of design runs for lamar against the bills which surprised me as well when they did that in the first game uh but your thoughts jake who do you think breaks through and you're probably gonna say burrow but i'm not sure Well, here's my whole point. The thing is, is ah Mahomes has had the luck of having an Andy Reid next to him. Oh, no, no, no. Let's put a spade of spade on this. Luck.
01:11:38
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but Let me tell you this, Andy Reid is is the exact factor of why they're winning this the whole way through. I believe yeah for ah Mahomes is as close to them if not for Andy Reid. Andy Reid is such strategically smarter than the other two head coaches, especially the one in Baltimore and the one in Buffalo. I'm sorry, until you get an offensive genius to match him,
01:12:04
Speaker
You're not going to keep up with these guys. Let me tell you something. Drew Brees was on the herd the other day, and he literally said it specifically. He said, guys, Andy Reid waits till the final act to show you his greatest poker play. He motioned two wide receivers to the left. The Buffalo Bills got worried as hell. They went right over there. He put Purin, they're running back, they're back up running back, day and they hadn't thrown the ball at you all day.
01:12:29
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They put them underneath on a flat route and let those two motion wide receivers run up and give him the open space he needed for about first down to win the game. That's what I mean by you wait till your best place. Not only that, their defensive coordinator is one of the smartest ever. We know that for a fact. He waited for his best move on that corner blitz.
01:12:52
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on the last moment. The thing is that I don't understand. You hadn't run that all year though that's true. What I'm saying is these guys do not understand that you have to stop showing all your freaking cards during the season. The Chiefs are waiting and holding their hand till the playoffs happen. Stop doing it guys.
01:13:15
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That's all I'm trying to get at because that's what they're out doing you so and until those two trade head coaches now I will tell you why the outlier is Joe burrow because I think if Joe burrow had at least a and okay offense with fifty help around him on defense. He's already shown you. There's one guy that doesn't fair my homes and that's him. He knows, I don't know what it is, but boy, every time I see Josh and Lamar, they look nervous as hell on that damn bench when they're watching Patrick Mahomes. It's frustrating to me. Joe Burrow is as cool and calm as collected as you can be. If you looked at the last time they played, Burrow had two touchdowns, no picks.
01:13:54
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while my home's had two TDs and two two two picks. This is what I mean, guys. Until you can break through and outsmart Andy Reid, you will not get past it. But that's why you need an offensive. And I wish I would love to see a Rams chief Super Bowl one day, because I think that's how you can do it. A Sean McVeigh level type of head coach to match up in Andy Reid, I think could very well make a great one. Now, I won't count out the Eagles because they have built a roster like no other. I think they have the best roster in the whole NFL. But what I will say, is as far as the AFC is concerned, you have the quarterbacks in play, but you don't have the head coaches to match Andy Reid. And that's a damn shame that you keep letting this guy outsmart you year after damn year.
01:14:38
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said said That's for your point, Jake. They ran that offset wishbone several times in a year, and that was the first time that Mahomes kept it and made a touchdown offer. So they they ran that several times and they would always give it to the running back or the tight end or do a shuffle pass out of them. That's the first time he's kept the ball and ran it. So to your point, that that makes sense. And then, you know, the Eagles, maybe they have a chance to win.
01:15:02
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Uh, but a good point is that uh homes against vick fangio Defenses he's a to know so that's something to think about as well. Uh, he has never lost to vick fangio around defense So and the or maybe that's just in the playoffs, but I know he's a to know against vick fangio So, uh, we had the broncos, uh quarterbacks who were nothing. Who do we have drew lock during those times? my god like with ah ah drew All
01:15:31
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but hell are you gonna wear So real quick I just I just had another other kind of thing of the so Jerry Jones decides to run a late press conference with his coach introducing his new coach He kind of rambles on but a lot of people have been talking about what he was talking about and how this was basically taking a gamble taking a chance on Brian Schottenheimer, which you kidding which it is, but yeah I don't know What are your thoughts on this press conference and introducing the coach, guys? ah Any thoughts? I got to do this after my first topic. Screw Jerry. Pathetic. Pathetic. but Pathetic and pissed for. Man, here's my whole, as I told Flo earlier, man, I think, man, for them to entertain primetime Deion Sanders and talk about they wanted prime and this and that. I think it was a waste of time. I think it was a waste of energy. and i and And I think it was all just a bunch of talk, man. Jerry Jones going to do what he wants to do.
01:16:27
Speaker
I think Jerry Jones is the type of person he don't he does not want anyone to outshine his life. He wants the spotlight on him. He wants to make it wrap some decisions. He wants to control the narrative. You could have had a guy like Deon Sanders come in there, change things and orchestrate things, but you got a guy, don't nobody know nobody. about it no on on On the side of him, I know it's Marty Scheinheimer. That's on the side of him, I know it's Marty.
01:16:54
Speaker
This guy here, I think he'll do a good job, but he's gonna be on a leash, which means he's gonna be controlled by what Jerry wants him to do. Right? and and And as the guy said, Jerry can't get out of his own way. There is no way that you can have that much talent in an organization that you can't get beyond certain positions in the playoffs, man. is It's crazy, man. I think we had a lot of injuries though. This year we had a lot of injuries. I'm to my floor, but for the last almost 30 years. Yeah. Yeah. But every situation is different. Every situation is different. About every season is the same. So.
01:17:34
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You can't attribute this season to what happened all the last 30 years. This season was its own thing. Your thoughts, I know you have thoughts on Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. Oh, this is a slap in the face. I think champ practically threw it right there. Uh, spot on. I mean, this is just embarrassing to watch. Uh, the fact and the goal to have your fans have hope for this D minus head coach you're grabbing right now.
01:17:58
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yeahp It's embarrassing to look at. Let me tell you something. We don't know yet. he No, no, no. We do know. Let me tell you why we know. How do we know? It's Jim's don't wait 14 years and stay offensive coordinators for 14 years. This guy wasn't even trusted to call the own plays in Mike McCarthy's head coaching. Uh, when Mike McCarthy, when he likes to call plays, Mike McCarthy likes to call plays. Well, what I'm saying is this guy wasn't even calling plays. We haven't seen anything out of him that made him look smart whatsoever.
01:18:27
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the Last time, in fact, he was hot was in 2007 when his name was getting talked about. That's embarrassing. Let me add this in also. Jerry Jones, I see the tea leaves. I know what you did, Runk. You paid Dak, paid CD, and you're gonna have to pay Michael.
01:18:42
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yeah and with that and the way you paid them and how you paid them you're now screwed for the next two years for sure you can't get out of those contracts that fast but you don't want to to to lose money we we can certainly see that boy you're bureau grabbing the the scraps So he's going to let this head coach fall down with Dak, like I said on Sunday. They're going to be trash for the next two years. And then he'll clean house and try and get, try and give cowboy fans another hope and bring in a new head coach and a new rookie quarterback in the next two years. Do not worry. I see the tee leaves like no other. Jerry screwed himself from putting that Dak contract on him on his books and it's hurting them since. I'm sorry, you can count injuries all you want, but before your injuries were happening by the quarterback.
NFL Quarterback and Team Management Critique
01:19:30
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I believe your quarterback can still carry you. A quarterback can carry you to a playoffs if he's good enough. And the way you just paid him told me that you felt he was good enough. I'm sorry. And I saw him getting his butt whooped for the first beginning of that season. I'm sorry. I'm not taking it. I'm not taking anything serious from Dak. Dak is a B minus quarterback at best. At best.
01:19:52
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Well, we had all things in line that was, that was young too and we had a, you know, we're trying to revamp the the running game. So Rico Dada finally came into his own as the season went on. And so did the offensive line. But about that time doc was already hurt. So we didn't have our starting quarterback. So by the time we take, read the benefits of a good offensive line or a better offensive line and ah and a better running game, he was already out for the season. So really beefing benefits.
01:20:17
Speaker
Uh, next year we'll see what happens. Uh, I mean, what are you going to do? You got Dak Prescott and for four years, there's nothing you can do. you You can't get out of it. So, uh, they both have four year contracts. I think the best or what Denver did best case, the bad thing about the NFL with some, with some head, uh, head coaches and and owners, they fall into the trap and then they stick by it guys. If you make a mistake in life, do you stick to it and say, Hey man, I went down this road and I'm gonna stay there. No, no, no. You go to a different road. I love what Denver did. They knew they made the mistake. They moved on that fast. They didn't tell, they didn't make a false hope to their fans and say, hey, guys, we think Russ might actually change the series for us this time. No, no, no. You made the mistake. Take the dead cap and move on. But they're going to wait because how cheap Jerry wants to be. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. Resiliency. Resiliency, Jake. I love it. I love it. I love it. Mind you, a dead cap money team just made the playoffs with a rookie QB. Do the same thing, Jerry. Do something, man. Stop throwing us false hope.
01:21:17
Speaker
There's nothing you can do come crying to me. I'm having to carry them on my shoulder every damn day now. They're tearing up I'm not tearing them. I'm good So, I mean, I'm optimistic just because we don't know. We don't know what Brian Schonhammer can do. Just like we don't know, you know, you know, Aaron Glenn seems to be ah like like ah he's going to be a good coach. You know, we we don't know, you know, we don't know what Ben Johnson is going to do. He's never been a head coach. So there's a lot of unknowns out there. Maybe this guy will be a good coach. Maybe he won't. We don't know.
01:21:49
Speaker
But I mean, all you can do is hope and then you're going to have to basically, uh, hope that they get, uh, another running back in the draft. Hopefully you get another offensive lineman and you get a little bit of help on the defense to get a little more depth. But I think when this, the defense is healthy, I think they'll look a lot better. Uh, I don't know. I know Matt Eber flutes. He's going to be the o DC. So I know he's a good DC head coach. I don't have a lot of confidence in him, but.
01:22:16
Speaker
We'll see what happens. I think Jerry, you know, he's just trying to sell the, he's just trying to be the salesman and trying to oversell and you know, all the, all the common friends already know what's up. So, I mean, he's not going to be able to sell us on anything. So, uh,
Pro Bowl Location and Festivities Changes
01:22:29
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we're going to, you know, I'm going to be optimistic until I'm, I have otherwise reason to not be, uh, cause I don't know what Brian Schottenhammer is yet. None of us, none of us do so.
01:22:40
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Alright, any other thoughts on on the NFL? I was going to talk about the Pro Bowl. ah Your thoughts on the Pro Bowl? Do you like any of the skills games? Anyone you're looking forward to? I know that they went to a flag football now. Your thoughts on the Pro Bowl games coming up this weekend before the Super Bowl? Cam?
01:22:58
Speaker
Man, the biggest thing, man, just watching the guys do um one of my favorites. Let me see, I was looking at it early, man. I know who's up there talking, man. when they do When they do some of the leg races, when they do some of the um the flag football, tug of war.
01:23:13
Speaker
they do a tugg of war do they do a tugg so they do they do do tugg of war brother so Is there any new ones do we know for they don't need any new games in there I like I used to like when they used to do the sprint when they'd like to be the fastest man in the NFL When they did that one that was pretty cool. I wish it would bring that one back Yeah, anyone do you think that would they should bring back can I?
01:23:31
Speaker
No, I'm good, at man. fuck I'm good, bro. I'm dripping now. I'm dripping now. Omar, Omar. I know you're drifting. Help us out, Omar. Any thoughts on the Pro Bowl games? Anything you like? I wish maybe they would bring back or a game that you like that they do. No, let me let me say this before Omar comes back. Let me say this, man. Okay. The NFL, y'all gotta be the dumbest organization on the planet.
01:23:53
Speaker
Y'all should have left the Pro Bowl in Hawaii. The Pro Bowl was, man, Flo. Flo, did you ever go and when it was in Hawaii? I didn't get a chance to go out the one time. man I went to the pro bowl one time, but I didn't get to go to the the pre the pre-frustivities. I went to the pro bowl Man, the pro bowl was so sweet in hawaii man. I mean nice the the the drink and the food all that stuff they get to meet the players get autographs All that. I mean that was so stupid that they took it from hawaii and then they did this pro bowl before the super bowl
01:24:26
Speaker
Before the Super Bowl and it was all good fun stuff and But nobody wants to go and who wants to go to Orlando to Camping Ground Stadium and then go come on man That defeats the purpose. Yeah, you know you know you like the tradition keeping it in Hawaii, man was in Hawaii, man hawaii Okay right oh mar ah Aloha. Aloha. Before I get on with mobile, did you show this comment from Ken Brock? This one while we're gone? Did you show this? Yeah, we showed it. Yeah, we showed that. I want everybody to go to Ball and Buds because she's the people I tip and I get along. Two weeks ago, I did a video on Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys and how much of a parse and a joke the organization is at this point due to Jerry Jones. So I want you to go to Ball and Buds. It's a five-minute video. How long? I want y'all to follow into their footsteps. It's called Dallas. Dallas is done, and it has everything about Jerry Jones and the whole organization. So please go watch that, and you'll know what I think. That being said, which I agree, he is going to see now, just like Al Davis. They said Al Davis. Rest of hours, too, is a great Al Davis. I completely agree with Canteen. That's exactly what I
01:25:40
Speaker
The Pro Bowl at this point is unstable. I do not expect festivities anymore unless I just happen to be at home and there's nothing though there's nothing else usually on in that day. If I happen to be home, I might throw it on in the background, but it's been a long time since I paid attention.
01:25:57
Speaker
20 of that. The last time I really ever cared was when I was stationed in Hawaii and I got to go to the Pro Bowl three years in a row. I got an honor wrap from my favorite player of all time. Shout out to Clubber D's brother, the older Derek, who me and him share a favorite player, Tim Brown, at the PX. And I got an autograph from Kim Brown, win a picture, the festivities were awesome, the time was awesome, the players actually gave a crap at that time and actually played the game like a real game instead of a hand-done or all these other BS rallies and other BS that I don't feel like watching and or caring about. If they can't get the players to care about it again, which is going to be hard to do considering it's a sport in which you hate each other if you can't even get the NBA players be here in a sport where they don't hit each other at this point i don't think you're gonna rescue the NFL either uh at this point you might as well just get rid of it because i'm not watching this video okay you don't like the flag football no
01:26:57
Speaker
Okay Sean Taylor hitting somebody ah sotalo remember there shown in the pro room dating yeah put out and it was hilar That's what I'm saying guys you kind of run you who's the You lose what the NFL was all about with that and I'm sorry, I agree I think well that's part of the I think this part of the season Joe Jake they've they've loosened all that they've given all the the rules to the offense even in during the season and I want to I wish I could watch a game if it was where they were trying hard For it all I would get it completely but it's not they why that Enough can they incentivize players don't care. Why should I? we
Family Influence on Sports Allegiance
01:27:42
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i see Yeah, there a way that could incentivize it to make it a you know pads and make it like them care again, I
01:27:49
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is there is there don money there is the game gangs on of man yeah saw get money long gone Yeah, I like the flag football I mean shout out to my so my son-in-law Elias his his team won last year the ah the national championship in the flag football ah and my daughter Abigail and just My grandson there Oh, hey, hold on. Let me ask you this question right here. Let me ask you this question before we go any further have y'all orchestrated or made a internal decision Is the baby gonna be a saints fan or is the baby gonna be a cowboy fan? I mean y'all gotta make that decision. He will be a cowboys fan because the the papo is already always in charge of the fandom
01:28:34
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okay okay on the try what was on line He's gonna try that but is a try to do it what he's gonna be a best monster oh now you can me a back yeah basketball that's well and football hey, here's a here's a fun fact, uh, yeah, the problems are doable selections mean nothing anymore I don't care if you make the bell the third string hunters make a fun fact though from you guy real quick
01:29:06
Speaker
ah Sorry, excuse me. But Jayden Daniels, my son-in-law Elias played for Arizona Christian University. He played defensive back and Jayden Daniels was actually early in his freshman. I think freshman sophomore, he played for the, on the same team as my son-in-law Elias. So, you know, we know that Jayden Daniels is a, I think he played over five five years. He was a fifth year senior or something. So he's like 24. So he's played for a while, but he did play for the Arizona Christian, the same team, my son-in-law played for.
01:29:36
Speaker
back and I don't know if they actually played together, but I know they were he played for the same team All right, any final thoughts on any other NFL stuff or any other action sports that we want to talk about? we're good fells we
Super Bowl Previews and Predictions
01:29:48
Speaker
yeah yll yll want to run sunday or have what what what what we looking like for the way ahead from now sunday There's no games on Sunday, I mean we don't skip Sunday and just go for a Super Bowl Sunday yllall do super sunday time i'm not going what night Do we want to do a post game or a pregame Um, let's do pregame. You want to do pregame? What do you guys think? I mean i may not even be able to do pregame, but if anything, I definitely want to. Point out you want to post? hopefully i dont no No, no, it would have to be super early because if I goodby if I'm go I'll be going out to go watch so y don't want to do yeah would ya like do something that saturday or but about you ja what do you like you have a preference we we could do some midween and be I like game just because you know after the game and whatnot I
01:30:41
Speaker
Because we can do it next tuesday. We can we can do our predictions because it's not till the following sunday. So we make sure that we can do it Yeah, let's that. We'll be a part of a pre-game and we'll do our predictions and then we we'll do a post game And then we get some college basketball we can hit but nba Hit all this other stuff Yeah, let's see we can do a sunday surge. We'll just do a post game sunday surge, uh on the 9th And if Omar can make it he can if you can't then he can't uh, be good with that book game, uh, jake Because it won't won't be that long. Anyway, it'll be like, you know, it's only one game and but not it's not gonna be like a long show
01:31:18
Speaker
Right. Okay. and i ah and i'm all right from that i'm i'm off that money so i'm good man we we'll do they Okay. what what We'll do Sunday surge on our last Sunday surge at the so Super Bowl or after the Super Bowl. Probably be a short show. Just talking a little bit about the game and maybe a little bit about next season and let's see who wins. And yeah, we'll do that. Any final thoughts? Anything else?
01:31:41
Speaker
Hey, it was a good run, man. Great show, great lineup, man. It was good, man. Good one. Hey, sure y'all subscribe to Ball & Bunch. We'll have a show coming up. We'll be talking some football later. that and will you get when your neck know When's your next show? show?
01:31:59
Speaker
Uh, either probably Thursday, but if I connect on next week, Thursday. All right. All right. So we won't be back. We'll be back next week. No Sunday serves this weekend. No shows. Uh, Hey, appreciate you watching, comment and all that good stuff. Jake, uh, goes to catch him on Tuesday and Thursday. He's right. Jake final say podcast on YouTube. We'll subscribe to ball and buds club or D next week. He'll have a show next week. We'll be back with the bottom line sports.
01:32:29
Speaker
Your Super Bowl preview and pick for the Super Bowl. That should be fun. We out. We out of here. Appreciate y'all. Ball and bug, baby.
01:32:50
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