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Horrifyingly Bad Horror Movies - Episode #3
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Welcome to the 3rd installment of our Cosmic Kimono podcast where we chat through the absolute horrors Callum has put me through
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Podcast Introduction and Mishaps
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Callum Jackson
buttons.
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Callum Jackson
No, man. Hello.
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Cameron Resner
Hello, podcast started, got a bit of behind the scenes.
00:00:09
Callum Jackson
Yes, it did with me clicking buttons.
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Cameron Resner
What buttons were you clicking?
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Callum Jackson
Right. ah Volume 1. I can hear you there. It's fine.
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Cameron Resner
You can hear me.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, I can hear you.
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Cameron Resner
You sound a bit quiet, hold on.
00:00:21
Callum Jackson
Can everybody hear me?
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Cameron Resner
Hear me. No, so um welcome to the Cosmic Kimono, not Kamino, podcast.
00:00:33
Callum Jackson
I was about to say, you had to really keep to it then.
00:00:34
Cameron Resner
i almost I almost did say it.
Recent Gaming and Film Highlights
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Callum Jackson
Feels like it's been a while.
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Cameron Resner
Yes.
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Callum Jackson
like What's happened in the past week seems like There is a lot going on, especially in gaming.
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Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
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Callum Jackson
I feel like since we've last spoken, i saw a really good film, which I would say ah Life of Chuck.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
It's really good. um really enjoyed it. um And I'm not actually ever going to talk more than I think you should completely see it or see it completely blind because I didn't know anything about it.
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Cameron Resner
Right.
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Callum Jackson
And then i I didn't even see a trailer. I just kept on seeing, what's his name, Tom Hiddleston, like posters of him around, which, without spoiling, again, ah kind of fits with the movie a little bit, but I'm not going to go into it.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
I just think you should definitely watch it.
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Cameron Resner
what the post is being around.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, have you seen it?
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Cameron Resner
No.
00:01:35
Callum Jackson
Okay, yeah, the posters being around and kind of me going, what's that?
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Cameron Resner
Right, Aya.
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Callum Jackson
it felt, I felt like I was part of the movie, but that's, yeah.
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Cameron Resner
the
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Callum Jackson
So, but very good film. Um, I really enjoyed it. And i don't know if that comes from me not knowing much about it, but going into it or not having any expectations at all, you know?
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Callum Jackson
So, but yeah, other
Stephen King Universe and Adaptations
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Callum Jackson
than that, it was really good.
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Cameron Resner
From the hit writer Stephen King.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah. He's got so many, you know, when we go in the cinema on both sides, it's him.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah. What was the other one?
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Callum Jackson
ah The Long Walk, which is yet to come out.
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Cameron Resner
The long walk. Right.
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Callum Jackson
That's What was it? ah Next week, September 12th, so.
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Cameron Resner
ah yeah, no, i've seen the trailers.
00:02:23
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that's good.
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Cameron Resner
Very nice. You you saw that?
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, I think that looks quite good well.
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Cameron Resner
That was good.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah.
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Cameron Resner
Five out of five.
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Callum Jackson
Mm-hmm. I did give it a five.
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Cameron Resner
Marvelous.
00:02:31
Callum Jackson
i i Honestly, I gave it a four and a half at first because I was like, ah I'm trying to not be as generous, right? And then I was just, as I was literally stepping in the car, I was speaking to Sophie about it and we were just like, yeah, I can't think of anything wrong with it.
00:02:47
Callum Jackson
So in my head, I was like, yeah, that's just five, isn't it? And I still can't think of anything wrong with it or something that I dislike. So I was like, yep, it's earned the five.
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Cameron Resner
And it's a feel-good flick.
00:02:57
Callum Jackson
It was. It was a very good... It was it it has like the sad moments. I'm talking about it too much. But it has the sad moments. has the uplifting moments. It altogether makes you feel good at the end of the film. So yeah, I recommend that one.
00:03:09
Cameron Resner
What more could you ask for?
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, exactly. I mean, The Long Walk looks the opposite of that. But...
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Cameron Resner
He does both.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah. but And Mark Hamill's in both. He's just loving Stephen King.
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Cameron Resner
What is going
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Callum Jackson
But...
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Cameron Resner
He's in both.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, he's in The Long Walk as well.
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Cameron Resner
What the last thing he was in before this?
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Callum Jackson
um probably another Stephen King thing.
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Cameron Resner
I was.
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Callum Jackson
Oh no, was it even?
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Callum Jackson
was in um Fall of the House of Usher.
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Cameron Resner
ah
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Callum Jackson
But is that Stephen King? I know it's Mike Flanagan, but is it Stephen King? I don't know. It probably is. He keeps adapting shit from him.
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Cameron Resner
Stephen King. Yeah, I think it... No, it's he's not Stephen King. That's a a horror movie that's not Stephen King.
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Callum Jackson
No, that isn't, is it? No, because Hill House isn't Stephen King either.
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Cameron Resner
No, and they're all from the same people, right?
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, but I think Mike Flanagan is doing Dark Tower.
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Cameron Resner
No.
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Cameron Resner
He's doing Doctor again.
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Callum Jackson
He's adapting. Yeah, yeah, he's adapting the whole series. Yeah, well, the the film doesn't really count.
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Cameron Resner
He's doing it as a TV series.
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Callum Jackson
I mean, yeah, they're doing it
Film Talk: 'Magnolia' and 'VistaVision' Debate
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Callum Jackson
as a TV series. So that I'm actually looking forward to because i I mean, I didn't know anything when we went to see the film. So I actually thought the film was okay as well.
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Cameron Resner
Stop breathing.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, exactly. Stop breathing. but Yeah, I think the film was fine. I don't remember having that much problem of it. But I'm sure if you've read the book, you probably have a million things that you don't like about that film.
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Cameron Resner
Because it's supposed to link with everything, isn't it?
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Callum Jackson
Yeah. yeah like I mean, even in the film you saw, I think Pennywise was in it, like his carnival sort of thing was there.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, it's Carnival. Yeah, it wasn't a bad film.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah. I haven't watched it again, though.
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Cameron Resner
No, I've watched it once. Although I do remember a lot of it for just watching it once.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, I remember a lot of it. That's what was saying. I was like, I remember it. That's probably why I haven't seen it again.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
But um also, and so what have you been up to?
00:05:13
Cameron Resner
I watched a slightly less feel-good film, but also a five-star in Magnolia, which was a very, very, very good film.
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Callum Jackson
Oh.
00:05:20
Callum Jackson
Oh. I'm not sure I've seen that. Who's in that?
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Cameron Resner
ah There's loads of people it. So it's the guy who did Licorice Pizza and There Will Be Blood.
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Callum Jackson
Hmm.
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Cameron Resner
Same director.
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Callum Jackson
Oh, you're on a bit Are you trying to go through his films?
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, yeah, there we are. And it was very, very good. It's got Tom Cruise.
00:05:44
Callum Jackson
Yeah. I was just about say, is that Tom Cruise with the weird haircut?
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, yeah.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, okay.
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Cameron Resner
It's got Philip Seymour Hoffman, Julianne Moore, I think.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah.
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Cameron Resner
And then,
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Callum Jackson
Mm-hmm.
00:05:57
Cameron Resner
yeah, but a few people I don't know. But it's very, very good. And it's three hours long.
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Callum Jackson
Jesus. Yeah, I'm literally...
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Cameron Resner
And a five-star film that's three hours long, that's a rare find.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah. I just clicked on it and to have a look. And yeah, I think I have it on my watch. Oh no, I don't. I'm going to put on my watch list, but it is one that I have seen before. Cause I wanted to watch, uh, some Paul Thomas Allen, some films like there will be blood, but I've already seen licorice pizza and inherit vice. Is it?
00:06:25
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah. And is he making a new one that's coming out?
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Cameron Resner
Yeah. He is just coming out with Leonardo DiCaprio, I think.
00:06:32
Callum Jackson
One battle after another. Yeah. I want to go see that as well.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
Um,
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Cameron Resner
Apparently he's made it in, was just reading before, he's made it in a ah style of film that hasn't been seen since like the sixty s It's like an actual way to print film and it's like a limited release.
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Callum Jackson
was it that vision thing that keep seeing?
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, VistaVision.
00:06:52
Callum Jackson
Yeah. I can't remember. Yeah. Yeah. It keeps coming up on the thing. And was like, it shot in IMAX and now, and i was like, Oh, so I must be using that film.
00:06:58
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I don't really know what VistaVision looks like.
00:07:02
Callum Jackson
Not even do I, but it's shot in IMAX as well, which looking at the trailer, not that it didn't look good or anything.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
I was just, I was questioning why the IMAX on a film like that. Like, i and I feel like that's just like blowing the budget like higher, you know, than it needs to be.
00:07:18
Callum Jackson
But, um,
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Cameron Resner
So apparently VistaVision is a widescreen version of 35mm. So then maybe that's why. Because obviously IMAX is widescreen, isn't it?
00:07:28
Callum Jackson
I'm at big. Yeah.
00:07:29
Cameron Resner
Yeah, so maybe that VistaVision was the OG version of that that's more on normal film, which is quite cool.
00:07:35
Callum Jackson
o
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Callum Jackson
Right. Yeah. I mean, are you interested in seeing that film?
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, I think so.
00:07:43
Callum Jackson
Yeah, well, we'll go and see that then, won't we?
Historical Films and Their Impact
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Cameron Resner
so Yeah, the Roses is on the Schindler's list.
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Callum Jackson
um Yeah, I have been wanting to see ah Court Stealing and The Roses as well, but I just haven't had time.
00:07:56
Callum Jackson
Yeah. God, I hope not. Jesus. of
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Cameron Resner
I've never actually seen Schindler's list.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:08:03
Callum Jackson
That's another really long film, isn't it? i've Admittedly, I've only seen it in school.
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Cameron Resner
I know, I think we watched The Boy in Striped Pajamas.
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Callum Jackson
so um
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Callum Jackson
But I think we watched that one as well in school. But did you do history in school? Oh, okay, I took it.
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Cameron Resner
No, I didn't do that.
00:08:22
Callum Jackson
I think we watched it then. But yeah, i haven't seen it since or on my own. So maybe I should because, you know, how in school they split up long films, don't they? Through different lessons. But yeah, yeah.
00:08:35
Cameron Resner
Another Liam Neeson classic.
00:08:37
Callum Jackson
Yes, Naked Gun and then that.
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Cameron Resner
Similar to Naked Gun.
00:08:40
Callum Jackson
Yeah, and then Phantom Menace. Right after Taken and non-stop.
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Cameron Resner
Similar vibes.
00:08:45
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
Taken's good though.
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Cameron Resner
Quick side note, do you think Liam Neeson's coming back in Star Wars at any point?
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Callum Jackson
Yes.
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Cameron Resner
Okay.
00:08:57
Callum Jackson
Yes.
00:08:57
Cameron Resner
Cool.
00:08:58
Callum Jackson
Sorry, to you.
00:09:01
Callum Jackson
That's all had to say. I was like, yes.
00:09:03
Cameron Resner
Yes.
00:09:03
Callum Jackson
It's just because they always go, that like, there's no point in articles when you see it and it goes, oh, this star's not reprising his role. He's not doing it she's not doing it. And I'm like, you're not allowed to say anything.
00:09:16
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:09:16
Callum Jackson
This doesn't, like me asking you, it doesn't matter if I asked you or I didn't. If someone turned around to you went, here's lots of money. And if they're interested, because I know some actors are like, no, I'm not, I'm good.
00:09:27
Callum Jackson
But if there's a lot of money and they're interested, which I don't think Liam Neeson hates Star Wars. So, yeah, I could imagine he's just, he'll come back.
00:09:35
Cameron Resner
No.
00:09:39
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:09:39
Callum Jackson
Why not? And apparently Kenobi season two is meant to happen, isn't it?
00:09:40
Cameron Resner
I just...
00:09:43
Cameron Resner
Mmm.
00:09:44
Callum Jackson
So, maybe it shouldn't.
00:09:45
Cameron Resner
That's excellent.
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Callum Jackson
But, I don't know.
00:09:48
Cameron Resner
I don't know. don't know about that.
00:09:51
Callum Jackson
Maybe there should just be a film and we erase the show.
00:09:55
Cameron Resner
Mmm.
00:09:55
Callum Jackson
Maybe.
00:09:56
Cameron Resner
I think that would be the way to go. Just a film would be nice. Not even a good film.
00:10:01
Callum Jackson
Yeah, a film.
00:10:02
Cameron Resner
Just a film.
00:10:03
Callum Jackson
Well, we are getting a film, aren't we? We're getting Mandalorian and Grogu.
00:10:05
Cameron Resner
Starfighter. Oh. And that Starfighter one.
00:10:09
Callum Jackson
The Starfire one I'm more interested in, but I can't get interested in the Mandalorian Grogu when i stopped watching Ahsoka and i barely i I attempted Mandalorian Season 3.
00:10:11
Cameron Resner
Mmm.
00:10:23
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I didn't even want to see season three.
00:10:23
Callum Jackson
And
Gaming Remakes: Worth the Hype?
00:10:25
Callum Jackson
maybe not because they're actually bad, but I just couldn't be bothered.
00:10:25
Cameron Resner
Or the book.
00:10:31
Callum Jackson
So I don't know what's worse.
00:10:31
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:10:35
Callum Jackson
I mean, I love Star Wars, so couldn't be bothered to sit through them. But um yeah, I don't know.
00:10:39
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I think that's pretty bad.
00:10:41
Callum Jackson
I don't know why that's their first film is all I'm saying. Like they should have just done something new.
00:10:45
Cameron Resner
What about the Acolyte film? Yeah.
00:10:48
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Right.
00:10:53
Callum Jackson
Shall we?
00:10:53
Cameron Resner
and
00:10:54
Callum Jackson
What?
00:10:55
Cameron Resner
i was i was Sorry, I was bad to work i was about to i about to say the other thing I've been booting up is is Metal Gear Solidus.
00:11:01
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:11:04
Callum Jackson
Yes, i was i was just about that's what I was about to go into. But um yeah, we'll have a quick talk now. um But I think maybe once we've completed it or something, we can have a full sort of discussion on it.
00:11:17
Cameron Resner
Hmm.
00:11:17
Callum Jackson
um Because there's like quite a lot to say
00:11:18
Cameron Resner
Spoiler warning.
00:11:21
Callum Jackson
ah on on that. And I feel like we should talk about other games as well, like remakes and sort of things. So in another episode, we'll have a full thing. But um quick off it, do you like it?
00:11:33
Cameron Resner
I do. i do like it. I think it's fun, but it is just the game again.
00:11:35
Callum Jackson
OK.
00:11:42
Callum Jackson
Mm-hmm.
00:11:42
Cameron Resner
It looks better.
00:11:44
Callum Jackson
Yep.
00:11:44
Cameron Resner
get that. But I don't, I feel like, i don't know.
00:11:46
Callum Jackson
Yep.
00:11:50
Cameron Resner
There's a part of me while I've been playing and it's just like I could have just bought the collection and just played it on there and saved myself 30 pounds and got more games.
00:11:56
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:11:59
Callum Jackson
yeah so yeah since you've said that um I think it looks great and I'm I'm a bit split on it because in one way I wouldn't have wanted them to change it at all and then in another way which they haven't done except from gameplay um and then in another way I'm like I wish it was more like the Resident Evil remakes
00:12:14
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:12:24
Callum Jackson
I just feel like, um, and I haven't played the original resident evils, uh, but I just feel like playing it because I've, I got the master collection.
00:12:28
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:12:34
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:12:34
Callum Jackson
And when I saw that the reveal was coming, like that it was coming out, I made a point of actually finishing the master collection snake eater before this one.
00:12:45
Cameron Resner
Right.
00:12:45
Callum Jackson
Cause I thought there would be more changes, not necessarily like that deep. And I was hoping that it wouldn't be that deep of a changes, but, um, Yeah, I was i was just, it's so familiar.
00:12:58
Callum Jackson
It's to the point of being so familiar that the control screen ah the controls is like freaking me out.
00:12:59
Cameron Resner
a
00:13:07
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:13:08
Callum Jackson
Where I'm like, this isn't right.
00:13:08
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah, i know you mean.
00:13:10
Callum Jackson
And I can't really work it out to make it right.
00:13:14
Cameron Resner
ah You play on the legacy mode.
00:13:17
Callum Jackson
ah No, I don't... ah ah Because, again, like the Legacy mode was... There was like a thing called Substance, Metal Gear 3 Substance, and that came with the one that's on the Master Collection and the HD Collection, where you had a camera, like a third-person view.
00:13:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:30
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:13:31
Callum Jackson
But like ah yeah the the Legacy mode, like that was the one that I originally played on PS2 when it came out, because I'd got that before Substance. So I had that camera where it was like the Legacy mode, but i just I wouldn't go back to that. I wouldn't choose that version of...
00:13:46
Callum Jackson
and if any of the games had that.
00:13:48
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:13:48
Callum Jackson
But only I think only 3 did change up the camera angle.
00:13:52
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I think that's where it started. just think it's a bit of a shame that they didn't... I feel like they they could have made the areas more not an open world, but just more open without all the loading screens.
00:14:08
Cameron Resner
And maybe not may not like Phantom Pain, but more like Ground Zeroes, where it's just like a big, or maybe a few big, like Ground Zeroes size areas, which are just like where you can kind of play around in and do more, ah
00:14:08
Callum Jackson
Yes.
00:14:28
Cameron Resner
just not not have as much of it broken up.
The Art of Remakes in Gaming
00:14:31
Cameron Resner
I think that's where they could have improved it and made a bit quite a big difference on the original without changing the story and everything.
00:14:35
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:38
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:14:39
Callum Jackson
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I agree with that. That's exactly what I want. Like, am really happy that all the cutscenes remain. um All the voice actors are literally just ripped from the game anyway, so no one needed to re-record stuff.
00:14:53
Callum Jackson
But it oddly suits it as well. um Like, I don't feel like...
00:14:55
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:14:57
Callum Jackson
I know, like, the voice acting is a bit, like, over the top, but it's meant to be. But... um Yeah, I like all that. ah But the gameplay, like you said, there shouldn't have been those loading screens. It really, with the new controls and the graphics, it does it it just doesn't fit, I don't think.
00:15:15
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:15:15
Callum Jackson
Like, I'm playing it, and i am because I've played Snakey so much, I'm running through, especially the first area as a kid, when I knew that I had to go left and I can go under the log and there's some bug juice in there probably or a smoke grenade or a gun.
00:15:30
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:15:30
Callum Jackson
and then um then there's two guards in that sort of area and then there's a tree around the corner that you can climb for no reason apparently but and then you go up to the path and then you're on the bridge bit I have that so clear in my mind that I was like when I was playing it I was like ah I've done this a year ago less than a year actually I played at end of 24 and I was like oh shit and and I feel like I made a mistake because I was like I was expecting more I was like like
00:15:49
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it just looks prettier.
00:15:56
Cameron Resner
Yeah. I feel like just ยฃ70, it just feels, that feels a bit much.
00:16:00
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:02
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:16:03
Callum Jackson
Because it just it's literally a PS2 game with modern-day graphics and and a modern-day control scheme.
00:16:04
Cameron Resner
Yeah. yeah yeah
00:16:10
Callum Jackson
I'll give them that. The gameplay is really nice. like I personally like it. I've seen that Snap into Cover isn't as good as the original games, which is funny, but... um
00:16:20
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like they could have just taken the movement from like ground zeros or something and just put it in here. And that would have made it feel a lot more updated.
00:16:29
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:16:34
Callum Jackson
Yeah, agree.
00:16:37
Cameron Resner
But also, I feel like they could have added on... i didn't ah fit Because, you know, Metal Gear, in The Phantom Pain, where they... Is his name Skull Face? Is it Skull Face?
00:16:48
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it is.
00:16:49
Cameron Resner
um They say that he was, like, following Snake on this mission and, like, cleaning up stuff behind him.
00:16:57
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:16:57
Cameron Resner
I think that's his story. I feel like that would have been a cool, like...
00:16:59
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:17:02
Cameron Resner
mission pack or chapter to add like after the game is you just you do like ah like a couple of hour thing with him and that just adds on to the story then without changing the main game and because I feel like they're scared of changing too much without Kojima-san around
00:17:15
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:17:23
Callum Jackson
Yeah. And I think because of the
00:17:26
Cameron Resner
I feel like they could have tried it out they could have tested it almost there
00:17:29
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I think just because of like how loved Metal Gear is, they really played it safe.
00:17:35
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:17:35
Callum Jackson
They like, don't fuck with it.
00:17:36
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:17:37
Callum Jackson
and i And I like that they didn't, to be honest. But again, you know after playing the collection, it honestly, you can just play the collection and get the same thing um if if graphics aren't your top priority.
00:17:51
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:17:52
Callum Jackson
um that's just That's my personal opinion. but We can get deeper and talk about this all day. um But um I think... we'll We'll go into it more in another ah episode because there's actually like things I want to talk about, about remakes in general.
00:18:07
Callum Jackson
So it's not just this subject, but it's also gaming today as well. So I think that'll be quite a full episode.
00:18:13
Cameron Resner
Tune in next week.
00:18:14
Callum Jackson
yeah Next week we'll go into it. and we'll I'll play more of the game. I paused it for now. um ah And I've gone on to The Witcher. um I'll come back.
00:18:26
Callum Jackson
ah ah I'll start playing it again. Right. Now, the subject that I'm pretty sure I mentioned last week was and getting these, what what I've dragged you through, right?
Saw Series Nostalgia and Horror Comparisons
00:18:42
Callum Jackson
Now, looking back, some have been good.
00:18:44
Cameron Resner
In terms of films.
00:18:45
Callum Jackson
Yes, not just life. I've just dragged you through so much shit.
00:18:48
Cameron Resner
Okay.
00:18:50
Callum Jackson
But I will say some have been good and and some have been really bad. Now, what I've actually done, so we don't go on too long, is I kind of condensed it into a top 10.
00:19:04
Cameron Resner
Okay.
00:19:04
Callum Jackson
Right? So i didn't I did, but I have got honourable mentions and I've also got stuff that I've watched alone just to be like, which I don't have to grab from, but I just want to let you know that not all is shit with horror.
00:19:18
Cameron Resner
right
00:19:20
Callum Jackson
But yeah, so this is mainly horror that I've dragged you through, right? Um... And some of them I would say thriller, you know, not straight up horror. It's more of a thriller side of things.
00:19:31
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I agree.
00:19:32
Callum Jackson
Okay, so what I will do, I've also gone and ah got both our scores for them. And I want to see if you agree with your rating still.
00:19:42
Cameron Resner
Okay.
00:19:43
Callum Jackson
But before we start all this, right?
00:19:47
Callum Jackson
Before anything happens, I just want to to remind you of what started this whole thing of us starting horror films.
00:20:04
Cameron Resner
Yes.
00:20:06
Callum Jackson
Yeah, so that, i wept because I went so far back that I saw them all.
00:20:13
Cameron Resner
That was deep COVID territory.
00:20:15
Callum Jackson
Yes, yeah, and and that was like, you you you were coming round and we were watching them and you had a celebration victory dance at the end.
00:20:24
Cameron Resner
Hmm.
00:20:25
Callum Jackson
But they were great. They were good fun together, weren't they?
00:20:30
Cameron Resner
They were really good fun. Yeah, I really like them.
00:20:31
Callum Jackson
So, and and if you think of that, we then went into other films, which we'll get into.
00:20:36
Cameron Resner
Right.
00:20:36
Callum Jackson
We then went into other films, um but nothing was capturing the magic of Saw.
00:20:41
Cameron Resner
No, definitely not.
00:20:41
Callum Jackson
There was something there. And if you look at our scores for all the Saw films, they're not great. I don't even think mine got over a three.
00:20:49
Cameron Resner
No. No.
00:20:49
Callum Jackson
But there's so when you have the right crowd and you're watching them,
00:20:53
Cameron Resner
It's a good combination of ah just utter craziness. Story as well. I do like the story that goes through it.
00:21:05
Callum Jackson
Yeah, and it's just the fact that...
00:21:05
Cameron Resner
Just how it reads.
00:21:07
Callum Jackson
How many how many films are there? 10?
00:21:09
Cameron Resner
and
00:21:09
Callum Jackson
11? Yeah, um it's the fact that they all link.
00:21:12
Cameron Resner
When does Jigsaw die?
00:21:15
Cameron Resner
Spoilers.
00:21:16
Callum Jackson
What?
00:21:17
Cameron Resner
Jigsaw dies in the third film.
00:21:19
Callum Jackson
What did you say?
00:21:19
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:21:19
Callum Jackson
Yeah, but that it's amazing that they all link. And i would argue not even in like that stupid of a way. Like, kind of believable. Like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I see what you...
00:21:28
Cameron Resner
No? Yeah.
00:21:30
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I feel that.
00:21:30
Cameron Resner
You got like, is it three and four happening at the same time or something?
00:21:35
Callum Jackson
Yeah, and then the last one where he became a good guy.
00:21:39
Cameron Resner
Yeah, and you got Donnie. Yeah, you got Donnie Wahlberg returning.
00:21:41
Callum Jackson
whoop getting crushed by ice blocks. It's fucking great.
00:21:45
Cameron Resner
God.
00:21:45
Callum Jackson
Four walls.
00:21:47
Cameron Resner
Four walls, man.
00:21:48
Callum Jackson
Yeah, just...
00:21:49
Cameron Resner
love four walls, man.
00:21:50
Callum Jackson
Yeah, so much... like And yeah, it's it started so much of us and we we still say four walls for some reason now. And there's so many soul traps that we think of. And then there's that spin-off Spiral, which I don't think is even that bad as well.
00:22:07
Cameron Resner
No, but yeah.
00:22:07
Callum Jackson
but They're good to... Look, none of them are great.
00:22:10
Cameron Resner
Spiral took itself too seriously, I feel like.
00:22:12
Callum Jackson
No. Yeah.
00:22:12
Cameron Resner
and It felt felt a bit more serious than the others.
00:22:13
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:22:16
Callum Jackson
Yeah, they were trying to be serious, but you couldn't take Chris Rock too seriously.
00:22:18
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:22
Callum Jackson
Not that he's bad, but he's just funny.
00:22:22
Cameron Resner
um yeah yeah I'm the voice of the
00:22:27
Callum Jackson
Hello, Detective.
00:22:27
Cameron Resner
you
00:22:29
Callum Jackson
But yes.
00:22:30
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:22:30
Callum Jackson
um Yeah, so they're all a good time is what I'm saying. I haven't sat there. I mean, they did start losing it, but doesn't really matter. like theyre They're all still fun to watch as a group. Yeah.
00:22:39
Cameron Resner
What was your favourite one? you know?
00:22:41
Callum Jackson
Probably three. Was that the one when that was when it started coming together? And did he die on that one?
00:22:48
Cameron Resner
Yeah, he does.
00:22:48
Callum Jackson
Was that the one?
00:22:49
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:22:49
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Three and four kind of link around together. Two, I really don't like when she drops into the needles. That was just...
00:22:56
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I remember you not liking that one.
00:22:59
Callum Jackson
Yeah, no, no, that's fucked.
00:22:59
Cameron Resner
I can't remember what that was. It's the one with the twisting leg, the twisting body parts that does me in.
00:23:09
Callum Jackson
and what was the Was that the latest one where gets his eyes sucked out and his fingers broken?
00:23:13
Cameron Resner
No, no i think this is like six or seven where some guy's in a... No, I think it is four, actually, where he's and where he's in like a machine that turns each of his arms and legs around separately and then it breaks his neck at the end.
00:23:20
Callum Jackson
The best one.
00:23:28
Cameron Resner
I think it is four, actually, because it's one of the guys that like runs over the guy's kid. Yeah, I know too much about Saw.
00:23:36
Callum Jackson
Yeah, because you you then a year later watched them back to back again.
00:23:40
Cameron Resner
Yes.
00:23:42
Callum Jackson
Was she living with Kim at that point?
00:23:42
Cameron Resner
Full on.
00:23:46
Cameron Resner
no she hasn't seen no
00:23:48
Callum Jackson
Oh, okay. thought, like, ah she just comes home from work and you're just watching that
00:23:52
Cameron Resner
do you know that that is one of the things on the list all ten of them well she maybe watched yeah she likes Final Destination so I watched like three of those with her I mean I mean they're not they're not good
00:23:58
Callum Jackson
God. Yeah, just come around. We'll watch them back to back.
00:24:04
Callum Jackson
Hmm.
00:24:11
Callum Jackson
I thought I liked Final Destination I thought I liked them and that that was the series I was going to go into but didn't want to mention it yet but we and we tried with that one that was our runner up to Saw not good but The Fast and Furious was good though but that wasn't horror but that was good altogether as well we had a lot of people around
00:24:16
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:24:18
Cameron Resner
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
00:24:24
Cameron Resner
That was. were just looking for for a hit. Yeah. I think it's similar to Saw, though, in that it's just got a shoot it's discuss a weirdly intricate story that's quite interesting.
00:24:39
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
00:24:40
Cameron Resner
ah And then it's just stupid. Yeah.
00:24:42
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Right. I'm going to kick off this list then.
00:24:48
Cameron Resner
Go for it.
00:24:49
Callum Jackson
So we watched, um I would say, what sort of was the first sting in our
00:24:58
Cameron Resner
mean
00:24:59
Callum Jackson
in our movie watching was the movie sting that one stung yeah that was when we saw a film there was a there was a it's about a giant spider or not even that big and uh it just it's in a block of flats isn't it an apartment block
00:25:17
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
Critiquing Films: 'Sting' and 'Maxine'
00:25:18
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Just, you know, just roaming around an apartment block.
00:25:20
Callum Jackson
now
00:25:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah. I've just, I'm just looking at images just to try and refresh by, cause I actually can't remember much of it to be honest.
00:25:27
Callum Jackson
yeah I can't even, I remember the ending when they trap it in the garbage thing and it looked like Terminator.
00:25:30
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Fire. and that
00:25:35
Callum Jackson
um But I can't remember.
00:25:35
Cameron Resner
Is it alive at the end? I can't remember.
00:25:37
Callum Jackson
There was more eggs or something. Or no, did they kill it? This is the point. This movie's bad.
00:25:43
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:25:43
Callum Jackson
Now I rated it one and a half and you rated it two. Do you stand by that?
00:25:47
Cameron Resner
too.
00:25:48
Callum Jackson
Yeah, you gave it a two.
00:25:51
Cameron Resner
I think maybe I do. think I can't...
00:25:54
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:25:58
Callum Jackson
Yeah, exactly.
00:25:58
Cameron Resner
there was some...
00:25:58
Callum Jackson
You can't remember.
00:25:58
Cameron Resner
I thought there was some interesting kills. I can't...
00:26:05
Callum Jackson
See, I remember it. It took so long to get to that, though. Do you remember us sitting there and we were like, where is it?
00:26:08
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah, yeah. It was for like an hour. There was nothing happening.
00:26:12
Callum Jackson
Yes. And it's not even that long of a film. So I would say I'll to your to my one and a half is accurate because I remember it, but I don't at the same time because nothing really happened.
00:26:15
Cameron Resner
Hmm.
00:26:24
Callum Jackson
Right.
00:26:25
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:26
Callum Jackson
So, yeah.
00:26:28
Cameron Resner
Like, yeah. Who who who knows? Are we getting a Sting 2? I don't know.
00:26:33
Callum Jackson
ah I don't care. but So, um yeah. not and not Not a very good start to our horror movies, right?
00:26:44
Callum Jackson
Okay. So then the next one, you're going to like say, is Maxine.
00:26:50
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah.
00:26:50
Callum Jackson
I gave it a two and a half. You gave it three.
00:26:54
Cameron Resner
Hmm. being more generous?
00:26:56
Callum Jackson
Yes. No, but that one wasn't as bad as Sting. That she had a plot.
00:26:59
Cameron Resner
No. I think in my head I was comparing all of these in my head because there was a moment where we went to see a lot of them back to back or within like a couple of months and I was just like just being beaten over the head with
00:27:02
Callum Jackson
um
00:27:11
Callum Jackson
Yeah, definitely.
00:27:16
Callum Jackson
you like plate why You didn't have to keep coming, but appreciate you did. Anyway, they do they do they do add memories for us, I feel, because ah ah you know what about that scene where she stamps on that guy's nuts?
00:27:31
Cameron Resner
that that was worth a star just by itself.
00:27:32
Callum Jackson
That was fucking raw.
00:27:35
Callum Jackson
That was one of the worst...
00:27:36
Cameron Resner
And it was so sudden, I couldn't can believe how quickly that just came. I didn't expect it.
00:27:41
Callum Jackson
Do you remember in the cinema where I went, oh!
00:27:43
Cameron Resner
Yeah. I've never seen group of men curl up so quickly.
00:27:44
Callum Jackson
It just... it was Oh, it was bad. It was bad. Because we thought she was just going to kick him up the ass, didn't we?
00:27:51
Cameron Resner
He's naked, isn't he? Yeah.
00:27:53
Callum Jackson
Yeah, she tells him to light take off his pants.
00:27:55
Cameron Resner
And then you just, you see the, yeah, testicle coming up the skin.
00:27:58
Callum Jackson
You're like, oh, what's she going to do? She's just going to kick him up his ass? No. full lot You see, it's not from afar.
00:28:05
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:28:05
Callum Jackson
It's camera up close. I can see the fucking shoe on top of the nuts exploding.
00:28:07
Cameron Resner
Zoom, zoom.
00:28:10
Cameron Resner
Hmm. Yeah.
00:28:11
Callum Jackson
It's fucking raw. But I will add to this. I thought this movie was bad. And I think I thought... I think I thought... I think why it was bad for me is because I love X and Pearl.
00:28:27
Callum Jackson
And I watched them before this. And you haven't. And probably still haven't. But... X and Poe are so good. i especially like X, like just to be that sort of slasher.
00:28:38
Callum Jackson
Again, and know we normally spoil things, but I'm not going to spoil them for you. I still think they're worth watching after all this time.
00:28:44
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I watch them. They've got ball crushing in them also.
00:28:48
Callum Jackson
They got something... this X is definitely more graphic, I think, in my memory. Because I haven't watched them since we watched Maxine. So, not fresh in the memory, but X I remember more.
00:28:59
Cameron Resner
And Pearl
00:29:01
Callum Jackson
Pearl was more of a story, and it stars Superman. You're scaring me, Pearl. So, that's... That's in the film. But they're shot differently as well. but
00:29:12
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:29:12
Callum Jackson
X feels like a 70s slasher and then Pearl looks like the fucking Wizard of Oz at one point. It's great. And then Maxine just lost it for me.
00:29:19
Cameron Resner
Yeah, to go through all of... Yeah, to go through those kind of periods, do different kind of takes on cinema. Is it the same director each time?
00:29:29
Callum Jackson
Yeah. ah Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:32
Cameron Resner
Hmm.
00:29:33
Callum Jackson
But I just, I don't know. It's not like they lost the plot. I just didn't feel Maxine at all. Like it was, and probably because I liked the other two so much. I think I gave them like four and a half each, probably.
00:29:46
Callum Jackson
Maybe X is five. I don't know. But I really enjoyed them. um Okay, so the next one. Not necessarily a horror. Kind of unsettling at points. And there isn't this is technically a remake, I guess. but Yeah, it is remake. Speak No Evil.
Film Reviews: 'Speak No Evil' and 'Terrifier'
00:30:02
Cameron Resner
Right, yeah.
00:30:03
Callum Jackson
Now, I gave that 4 and you gave it a 4. Do you stand by that?
00:30:06
Cameron Resner
Yeah, that one was good.
00:30:08
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I agree that was good.
00:30:08
Cameron Resner
I enjoyed Speak No Evil. I think James McAvoy is always pleasure to watch.
00:30:16
Callum Jackson
Yeah, he plays those roles
00:30:20
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I've split.
00:30:20
Callum Jackson
really well.
00:30:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah, no, he does. he does He does like a scary that's quite, um yeah, it's like unnerving. It's not like on the nose, like mike my scary. It's like just the way he light looks and stuff and talks.
00:30:35
Cameron Resner
I think he has that nailed.
00:30:35
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:30:38
Cameron Resner
So I think it was a bit slow at the beginning, but I can't.
00:30:39
Callum Jackson
Now, I don't know if it Yeah. But I enjoyed that film.
00:30:43
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:30:44
Callum Jackson
But then I hear like from ah my friends that there's an original one. So I didn't know that going in. But I hear that I didn't look into it because I actually want to watch it.
00:30:54
Cameron Resner
Oh, isn't it a forum?
00:30:56
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it's like it's is a lot better, apparently. And more fucked. So I do want... I think it's Danish. I don't want to say it is. But I think it is.
00:31:10
Callum Jackson
But...
00:31:12
Cameron Resner
it see no evil or hear no evil?
00:31:12
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that... ah Speak no evil.
00:31:16
Cameron Resner
Speak No Evil. Yeah.
00:31:18
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:31:19
Cameron Resner
ah certainly yeah
00:31:19
Callum Jackson
See no evil, hear no evil, speak no...
00:31:20
Cameron Resner
I was just looking up to See No Evil and that was also a horror movie and I was confused.
00:31:23
Callum Jackson
No.
00:31:24
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:31:25
Callum Jackson
Oh, yeah, there of course it was.
00:31:25
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:31:28
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:31:28
Callum Jackson
Yeah, Speaknaval. So, yeah, that was good. Haven't seen the original to compare it, so if the original's better, of course. I don't mean, a lot of people say the original's a better of everything. um But, yeah, for not seeing the original, thought it was good.
00:31:42
Callum Jackson
Maybe the ending was a bit too happy, but it was just entertaining for James McAvoy to once again be...
00:31:50
Cameron Resner
Do they all escape at the end?
00:31:52
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Huh?
00:31:53
Cameron Resner
Do they all escape at the end?
00:31:55
Callum Jackson
Yeah, i think the whole family escapes, don't
00:31:57
Cameron Resner
I can't remember. Because
00:31:59
Callum Jackson
Maybe with the kid. God, re-watched her.
00:32:02
Cameron Resner
they go in the lake, don't they? if They have that fight. Don't they drive into the lake or something?
00:32:10
Cameron Resner
No, they haven't.
00:32:10
Callum Jackson
You've lost me. You've lost me. But I think they escaped. thus That's all I know. There's like a house going on fire at the end and stuff. I don't know. that Nice cottage. Is it? i don't know. I've forgotten now.
00:32:22
Callum Jackson
But I liked it. And that's all that matters. In my head, I liked it And I think it comes down a lot. It's held up by James McAvoy's performance, obviously.
00:32:34
Cameron Resner
Oh yeah, for sure. And this one, yeah. That's why Letterboxd is so good, because I um just forget about most of this stuff, to be honest.
00:32:42
Callum Jackson
Exactly. That's why I like logging films. Because I'll be like, oh, what did I think of that film? And I either, I'm to watch ah interested to watch it again, because I might be like, oh, that was terrible.
00:32:55
Callum Jackson
And why was it terrible?
00:32:56
Cameron Resner
Hmm.
00:32:57
Callum Jackson
Or, oh, that was really good. I want to watch it again. Or, I remember you being that bad. I'm never returning. Which leads into my next movie, which you recommended.
00:33:05
Cameron Resner
Yeah, there's a big difference.
00:33:09
Callum Jackson
This isn't a me. This is a you.
00:33:11
Cameron Resner
Right. Okay. Okay.
00:33:12
Callum Jackson
And I'm going to... Fuck it. I'll just put them together because we watched them well one after the other. Not back to back, but one after the other. Terrifier 1 and 2.
00:33:22
Callum Jackson
Now, you recommended to watch this. I think we're we're all down to watch it. ah I gave the first one a 1. You gave it a 1.5. The second one, we both gave half star.
00:33:35
Cameron Resner
The second one was shite. Everyone else loves these films.
00:33:36
Callum Jackson
The second one was worse.
00:33:38
Cameron Resner
Shut everyone else loves
00:33:39
Callum Jackson
Huh?
00:33:40
Cameron Resner
everyone else loves these films
00:33:41
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it's a weird one, isn't it? it It just is fucked for the sake of being fucked. And it's not even the low budget side of the fence.
00:33:53
Callum Jackson
So it's just come home. I was going to close the door and I was like, nah, she's going to bark and then stay in the But anyway, yeah, I think like Terrifier 1 and 2, bad.
00:34:04
Cameron Resner
yeah they were yeah they will Yeah, I had watched the first one.
00:34:06
Callum Jackson
Bad movies.
00:34:08
Cameron Resner
I don't remember it being that bad, but and then it was quite bad. and just that well Although, the hanging upside down bit with the... Does he saw someone in half?
00:34:21
Cameron Resner
Yeah, something like
00:34:21
Callum Jackson
Yes, he does. Sick fuck.
00:34:23
Cameron Resner
Yeah, truly terrifying.
00:34:24
Callum Jackson
He like... It's the way he picks... What's it called? ah Oh, what does he do again? he Yeah, she's upside down, isn't she?
00:34:34
Callum Jackson
And then he saws her.
00:34:35
Cameron Resner
Yes.
00:34:37
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:34:37
Cameron Resner
Terrifier 2 has
00:34:41
Callum Jackson
Fuck off. what What score, though? Audience?
00:34:46
Cameron Resner
No, 81% is audience and 87%.
00:34:48
Callum Jackson
Oof.
00:34:49
Cameron Resner
So we're in the minority there.
00:34:52
Callum Jackson
No, no.
00:34:52
Cameron Resner
What about Terrifier 3? If it's better than 2, we watch it.
00:34:59
Cameron Resner
Oh, it's got a better audience score.
00:35:01
Callum Jackson
Oh, we'll watch it this Halloween.
00:35:02
Cameron Resner
Terrifier, that's it.
00:35:04
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Not literally, maybe not literally Halloween, but we'll watch it in October.
00:35:08
Cameron Resner
I think it is free now on Prime because I saw it in there.
00:35:10
Callum Jackson
Yeah. We'll watch it. We'll watch it ah October. yeah
00:35:14
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Could be the one.
00:35:15
Callum Jackson
And we'll get, we'll get the people background that watched it and loved it so much with us.
00:35:19
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Is it Call
00:35:21
Callum Jackson
But yeah, Terrifier 1 and 2. The first one I could appreciate that he has become kind of an icon now, I would say. You know, like Ghostface and that.
00:35:30
Cameron Resner
of Duty?
00:35:31
Callum Jackson
um I would say, yeah, he's quite...
00:35:34
Cameron Resner
Call of Duty.
00:35:36
Callum Jackson
He's in Call Duty. Yeah, exactly. He's he's made it.
00:35:38
Cameron Resner
when you know you've made it.
00:35:40
Callum Jackson
He's in Call Duty before, like...
00:35:40
Cameron Resner
Beavis and Butthead.
00:35:42
Callum Jackson
Yeah. He's in Call Duty before, like, other horror icons like Freddy Krueger and probably Jason from Friday the Fame.
00:35:47
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:35:49
Callum Jackson
So he's made it.
00:35:51
Cameron Resner
They were probably just more willing to give them to Call of Duty.
00:35:51
Callum Jackson
But, yeah, definitely. Well, after the Friday the game, I don't think that licensing is a bit messy.
00:35:56
Cameron Resner
When are we getting...
00:36:01
Cameron Resner
Are we getting a terrifying game made by the Friday the 13th people?
00:36:05
Callum Jackson
No, thankfully it's going to be a Halloween game with a campaign this time.
00:36:10
Cameron Resner
with an actual campaign.
00:36:12
Callum Jackson
Yes, which I'm looking for.
00:36:13
Cameron Resner
God.
00:36:14
Callum Jackson
And John Carpenter's working on it himself. Now, Halloween's my favourite one out of all those sort of slashes. And Michael Myers is my favourite. So, I'm looking forward to that.
00:36:26
Callum Jackson
And also, it'd be good to have everyone back to play that.
00:36:26
Cameron Resner
They didn yeah they did the Texas Chainsaw one, didn't they?
00:36:32
Callum Jackson
They didn't. I thought they did. So, I tricked everyone.
00:36:35
Cameron Resner
They did Predator.
00:36:37
Callum Jackson
They did Predator, yeah. And that but was okay. Their games have been okay since, but they really... Like, even better than Dead by Daylight, I think.
00:36:49
Callum Jackson
um the The Friday the Famed was the best one of those kind of games.
00:36:55
Cameron Resner
Oh yeah, for sure. Thanks.
00:36:57
Callum Jackson
And we played many hours of that, so... Yes, um... Yeah, it's just yes good. Made friends through it. It's great.
00:37:07
Cameron Resner
thanks
00:37:07
Callum Jackson
um But, yeah, right. So I don't actually... So back to the terrifiers quick. i didn't I didn't like them because they weren't... So I'm looking for... When we went into them, I'm looking for fucked up ship ah shit and gore.
00:37:25
Callum Jackson
and And the low budget's fine, but because it was so low budget, it kind of... It looked ah like fake a lot. So I wasn't feeling like grossed out by the gore.
00:37:37
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:37:38
Callum Jackson
But it was just like, what's wrong with you guys?
00:37:39
Cameron Resner
don't see I remember the blood being very bright.
00:37:44
Callum Jackson
um
00:37:44
Cameron Resner
Oh, yes.
00:37:44
Callum Jackson
But yeah, I'm looking forward to the third one. But yeah, so the second one, why we thought it was shit. Do you remember like they went into that full storyline, didn't they? And she was like a warrior or something or her mum was or her dad.
00:37:55
Callum Jackson
And she had a sword. Do you remember that?
00:37:57
Cameron Resner
oh yes Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:59
Callum Jackson
And it was like an overly long film. It was like what was it? Two and a half hours.
00:38:03
Cameron Resner
Gotcha. I do remember that.
00:38:04
Callum Jackson
And he barely showed up.
00:38:06
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Well, did it?
00:38:08
Callum Jackson
Weird.
00:38:09
Cameron Resner
She was one from the first one, wasn't she?
00:38:10
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:38:12
Cameron Resner
But like, the survivor, I think.
00:38:13
Callum Jackson
Was she? Maybe. No, there was a survivor though, wasn't there?
00:38:15
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:38:17
Callum Jackson
There was that woman with the fucked up face.
00:38:17
Cameron Resner
Oh, the one's face. Yeah.
00:38:19
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:38:19
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:38:20
Callum Jackson
um And then there was her.
00:38:25
Callum Jackson
But yeah, no, it was weird. It was a weird... It was a weird choice of movie, I think. Yeah,
00:38:30
Cameron Resner
yeah Again, I remember the first. I don't really remember the second. But that's probably why.
00:38:34
Callum Jackson
yeah because were all fucking falling asleep. Nothing was really happening. But was there a fucked up... Did he peel off her skin or something in one bit? Was that the fucked up part of the second one?
00:38:42
Cameron Resner
Yeah. He puts on her face or something, doesn't he? Something like that?
00:38:46
Callum Jackson
Yeah, and does he wear a face and shit and hair?
00:38:49
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:38:50
Callum Jackson
feel like he does.
00:38:50
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:38:51
Callum Jackson
But yeah, again, ah it the low budget is fine because like a lot horror movies are. But the the I think because it was so low budget, like it was just a bit fucked up. But like that didn't really do anything to me because it looked so fake.
00:39:09
Callum Jackson
So yes, the ideas that you're coming out with are fucked. But it it didn't look great.
00:39:15
Cameron Resner
Yeah, need a little bit more money.
00:39:18
Callum Jackson
Oh
00:39:18
Cameron Resner
I mean, there was, i think I think with Saw, I think it was as Jigsaw where I think that was like the worst one in my mind. And that one had a similar thing where it all just looked cheap.
00:39:33
Callum Jackson
oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:34
Cameron Resner
The the blood looked like was super bright and looked like radioactive blood.
00:39:38
Callum Jackson
yeah
00:39:42
Cameron Resner
That kind of takes you out of it.
00:39:46
Callum Jackson
Yeah, i agree. um Right. Next film. Now, I think we all just sort of wanted to watch this.
Mixed Reviews: 'Late Night with the Devil'
00:39:55
Callum Jackson
Late Night with the Devil.
00:39:58
Callum Jackson
I gave it three and a half and you gave it three.
00:40:05
Cameron Resner
Again, i can't fucking remember what happened.
00:40:08
Callum Jackson
Exactly. um
00:40:10
Cameron Resner
But i remember.
00:40:10
Callum Jackson
But then again, we did have a lot of people around. This was actually Halloween night, wasn't it?
00:40:14
Cameron Resner
Yeah, nothing actually happens until the end, right, basically.
00:40:19
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it's just kind of a talk show um and then snippets of AI throughout the film, which I remember not going down well. I remember not really noticing it and Sophie was just seeing it and she was like, is that AI?
00:40:30
Callum Jackson
And I was like, yeah.
00:40:31
Cameron Resner
What was AI?
00:40:33
Callum Jackson
Some of the artwork in it was AI.
00:40:36
Cameron Resner
Oh.
00:40:38
Cameron Resner
What?
00:40:38
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:40:39
Cameron Resner
Wait, AI artwork of what?
00:40:42
Callum Jackson
Like when they were doing the the talk show, the things that were on it. like they were I can't remember like the exorcism sort of stuff.
00:40:52
Cameron Resner
Oh.
00:40:54
Callum Jackson
One second.
00:40:59
Cameron Resner
Stock's gonna get beat.
00:41:02
Cameron Resner
Someone's to beat this dog.
00:41:07
Cameron Resner
I hate this dog.
00:41:07
Callum Jackson
I'm back. Sorry, she wanted to get out to speak to Soph. Anyway. Anyway. Yeah, so yeah the the AI art was a bit not good.
00:41:19
Callum Jackson
um But yeah, I just think the film was, again, I've given it a three and a half. I think I was just being generous, again, because I saw what other people gave it.
00:41:29
Callum Jackson
Because
00:41:30
Cameron Resner
Yeah, three feels generous to me in my head.
00:41:33
Callum Jackson
that film, unlike most, I actually don't remember all.
00:41:37
Cameron Resner
No, I don't remember anything, apart from the exorcism at the end. But even that wasn't that wasn't anything special, I don't think, did it?
00:41:46
Callum Jackson
No. Yeah, we were just all sitting here going, okay. i don't fit And maybe the vibe of the room was off because like a lot of us was here, but yeah, it just wasn't really that great, to be honest.
00:41:59
Cameron Resner
So these are all last year. These are all in the same year.
00:42:05
Callum Jackson
yeah Yeah, these were all in the same year. but ah Well, no, actually, no, they're not all in the same year. think Sting, like the earlier ones, was 23, right?
00:42:15
Cameron Resner
Sting was 24. Early 24. I
00:42:16
Callum Jackson
Was it?
00:42:18
Cameron Resner
and i think it was like February.
00:42:18
Callum Jackson
Holy shit. I'd say these were all last year.
00:42:23
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Sting was 24. Came April 2024. came out april
00:42:26
Callum Jackson
my God.
00:42:27
Cameron Resner
in twenty four
00:42:29
Callum Jackson
Jesus.
00:42:33
Callum Jackson
Okay, I've really done it to you then, didn't I?
00:42:36
Cameron Resner
You did. All in one year. Back to back.
00:42:38
Callum Jackson
Okay. Wrong. Wrong.
00:42:42
Callum Jackson
Okay, so not much to say on that. It was a talk show. The acting was fine. I can't really remember it. um i i Now I'm thinking about three and a half too high. I probably would have gave it a two, maybe a one. I don't know.
00:42:55
Callum Jackson
But three and a half is too high for a film I can't remember. And like with the other ones where I'm saying I can't remember, I can remember bits at least. And we're talking about them.
00:43:04
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:43:05
Callum Jackson
This one, though, I don't know at all.
00:43:09
Cameron Resner
No, agreed. I really struggle to visualize anything that happened in that show, in that film.
00:43:20
Callum Jackson
fucking dog so i had to get word it out word it out so there's not a long pause um yeah uh yeah let's move on from that because i just don't remember that film okay so the next one heretic
00:43:41
Cameron Resner
Hmm.
Thriller Appreciation: 'Heretic'
00:43:42
Callum Jackson
now i liked that one uh i gave it four you gave it four
00:43:44
Cameron Resner
What does that give this one three?
00:43:49
Cameron Resner
What? Okay. Yeah.
00:43:50
Callum Jackson
But that one I would agree with. I enjoyed that film.
00:43:54
Cameron Resner
Yeah, i was going to say, yeah, I think. Yeah, I think I like that one.
00:43:59
Callum Jackson
Yeah, and and with that one...
00:43:59
Cameron Resner
From my memory.
00:44:02
Callum Jackson
and know that's more of a thriller.
00:44:02
Cameron Resner
That one was this year, right?
00:44:03
Callum Jackson
There was horror elements, though. But...
00:44:06
Cameron Resner
That was 23.
00:44:07
Callum Jackson
I feel like that one I actually remember. I don't need to watch it again yet. But... I would watch it again. And I liked the story, the setting.
00:44:18
Callum Jackson
And again, I was going to say maybe because... What's it called? Late Night with the Devil. Maybe because that was all in one room.
00:44:25
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:44:26
Callum Jackson
That's why we've kind of forgotten it. Like it's just on the talk show. But literally Heretic's pretty much the same thing.
00:44:33
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I think I do do you prefer the kind of more thriller-y horror outside of Saw, especially when they have like a good, solid actor playing the whoever the weirdo is in it.
00:44:42
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:49
Cameron Resner
Same with Speak No Evil, I think.
00:44:49
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I mean, yes, I was going to say that. Yeah, looking at this, it's the thriller type ones that normally land, aren't they?
00:44:57
Cameron Resner
Yeah, just feel like, ah especially if you have like Hugh Grant in it, I feel like he, it's kind of a role that you don't usually see him in. And he's, again, like James McAvoy, he kind of kind of was unexpectedly creepy in it.
00:45:14
Callum Jackson
Yeah. I think
00:45:15
Cameron Resner
Just fun to watch.
00:45:18
Callum Jackson
uh yeah i i do i agree sometimes with the with the thrillers a bit and again you didn't watch it but i know one that got really overhyped and i just didn't care for either was um long legs and i i don't know if to say that is a horror or a thriller but i wasn't scared so i'm gonna say more thriller
00:45:30
Cameron Resner
Oh yeah.
00:45:34
Cameron Resner
Got Nicolas Cage in it.
00:45:36
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I see. Sophie was actually quite unsettled by Nicolas Cage. I was laughing because I've seen Nicolas Cage act this crazy in other films. Sophie Sophie hasn't seen many Nicolas Cage films.
00:45:45
Cameron Resner
Yeah. It's not really new.
00:45:47
Callum Jackson
But it's no like when he's screaming and kick ass. It seemed like that, like a lot of it.
00:45:51
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Or like face off. He's just crazy.
00:45:54
Callum Jackson
Yeah, he was screaming, he was doing the crazy thing. His face was unset. There were good shots in it. Don't get me wrong, like that that film has kind of like remained in the brain, but I just didn't care much for it.
00:46:06
Callum Jackson
um But yeah, no I think yeah the the the the performances were things where there's a good sort of lead that can hold ah like I am saying, even though i thought it was quite funny, like Nicolas Cage was that unsettling presence, like Hugh Grant was in Heretic and James McAvoy.
00:46:16
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:46:26
Callum Jackson
So I think I agree with you where like you need that sort of strong lead, don't you? To be like, oh, that's kind of the hook of the film and he or she is carrying it.
00:46:34
Cameron Resner
Yeah, for sure. I feel like it had a good good pace as well. It kind of didn't leave you like an hour without anything happening. It was kind of always...
00:46:44
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:46:46
Cameron Resner
You're always putting out a new thing kind of every five, ten minutes.
00:46:47
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it felt...
00:46:51
Callum Jackson
Yeah, and it didn't leave you hanging for long either. Like, you were pretty straight into it.
00:46:56
Cameron Resner
Yeah. can't remember by how that ends...
00:46:58
Callum Jackson
So...
00:47:00
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah, I do remember how that one ends. See, I can actually remember a lot of that film.
00:47:05
Callum Jackson
Yeah, exactly. So that, to me, I remain my... four stars and I liked it so but yeah um not sure what other people think of that one actually can't don't really remember but um yeah yes put it down in the comments let us know uh but I will say now it could be the opposite here people could hate heretic the next one I know is well liked can you guess what it is the next one after heretic that we saw
00:47:12
Cameron Resner
I agree.
00:47:18
Cameron Resner
Leave it down in the comments. Okay.
00:47:32
Cameron Resner
okay
00:47:40
Cameron Resner
No, I can't remember any.
00:47:41
Callum Jackson
Okay.
Disappointment in Remakes: 'Nosferatu'
00:47:42
Callum Jackson
Count Alcock.
00:47:42
Cameron Resner
What was it? Oh.
00:47:48
Cameron Resner
Nosferatu.
00:47:49
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that one. we Now, you know what? Maybe we should just end it here because if anyone listens to this, they'll fucking hate us.
00:47:56
Cameron Resner
yeah Don't watch Horakit.
00:47:57
Callum Jackson
But... but No, but um yeah, we we both thought that film was shit. I gave it one and a half and you gave it one and a half.
00:48:06
Cameron Resner
It's just so boring.
00:48:08
Callum Jackson
It was.
00:48:08
Cameron Resner
Nothing happened again.
00:48:09
Callum Jackson
It really was.
00:48:10
Cameron Resner
And it's just... I
00:48:16
Callum Jackson
You don't even know what to say to this one, do you?
00:48:17
Cameron Resner
i can't even... I don't even know what to say. It's just boring. i think I think that was it.
00:48:23
Callum Jackson
See,
00:48:24
Cameron Resner
I think that was his biggest sin. It was just boring.
00:48:26
Callum Jackson
yes. And I don't know if it's because a part of it could be, do you remember when we started laughing at the start when our lights came on and disrupted the film, didn't it?
00:48:36
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:48:37
Callum Jackson
And yeah, so we had to leave. And we walked around and I feel like that fucking half mile run that we did for some reason going out that way. We've never been around the back of the cinema. So it was an experience.
00:48:48
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:48:49
Callum Jackson
But yeah, and I was full of fucking five guys and milkshake. i was like, please, I'm going to be sick. But um no, I think, yeah, it was just boring. um it It came to me, it came across as way too pretentious.
00:49:03
Callum Jackson
And i like his other films.
00:49:04
Cameron Resner
Yeah. I feel... Yeah, I was about to say, I feel like ah feel like his other films are bordering that, but they don't cross that.
00:49:14
Callum Jackson
Yes.
00:49:14
Cameron Resner
But, like, Northman, I think, was pretty good.
00:49:15
Callum Jackson
Like the... Yeah, go.
00:49:20
Cameron Resner
but But also, yeah.
00:49:21
Callum Jackson
Yeah. agree.
00:49:24
Cameron Resner
And then the Lighthouse, obviously, very good. I think you like it a lot more than I do.
00:49:27
Callum Jackson
Yeah. I mean, I'm not shitting you. That's one of my favourite films.
00:49:31
Cameron Resner
Yeah, no, it is one.
00:49:32
Callum Jackson
I could put on The Lighthouse now. I fucking love that film.
00:49:34
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:49:35
Callum Jackson
that That entertains me so much. That's another film of like, you could see like, oh, it's kind of pretentious how it's shot, ah the acting, that that the story, the weirdness.
00:49:46
Callum Jackson
Like, it is, but that is so good and entertaining and the acting in it.
00:49:50
Cameron Resner
I do like the weirdness of Nosferatu. I like that.
00:49:53
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:54
Cameron Resner
But he is just kind of using a template. um Maybe that's it. Maybe it's because he's remaking something that someone else has already done. Not that I've seen the original, but he's...
00:50:05
Callum Jackson
Yeah, but that's just a rip-off of Dracula, isn't it?
00:50:06
Cameron Resner
you
00:50:07
Callum Jackson
Or is Dracula the rip-off? I can't.
00:50:09
Cameron Resner
Dracula's the ripoff, I think, I thought.
00:50:09
Callum Jackson
No. Fuck. I don't know. I'm not going to confirm that. feel like Dracula isn't, but...
00:50:16
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I don't know.
00:50:17
Callum Jackson
Dracula's... Yeah.
00:50:19
Cameron Resner
But I think the weirdness is cool. like the I like like the whole... i like the vibe of it. It's just that nothing's happening. It's just boring.
00:50:31
Cameron Resner
like The content is boring.
00:50:33
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I agree.
00:50:36
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:50:36
Callum Jackson
um yeah I just looked into it Dracula came first by like almost 30 years so yeah and the the novel but I was wondering now I was like was it the novel because I know is Nosfer I think Nosfer was like a film but yeah yeah but anyway I just think the film any cool scenes that were in it were in the trailer I will say that so that kind of
00:50:42
Cameron Resner
Oh, very good.
00:50:53
Cameron Resner
Yeah, Nosferatu is a film. I think Nosferatu was maybe the first film. Don.
00:51:05
Callum Jackson
you know, hit me when I was watching the film.
00:51:05
Cameron Resner
The Don.
00:51:07
Callum Jackson
Yes.
00:51:10
Callum Jackson
That was another thing that made us laugh when were watching the film. So maybe the headspace wasn't right, but, um,
00:51:15
Cameron Resner
But not the biggest dong you saw this year. Yeah,
00:51:18
Callum Jackson
It wasn't the longest. We'll get to that. Don't worry. 28 inches later is coming up. But um yeah, I think I heard so much talk about this guy's car online.
00:51:33
Callum Jackson
And then when I got to the cinema, i was disappointed.
00:51:33
Cameron Resner
it was very over. Yeah, I...
00:51:36
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:51:36
Callum Jackson
but Average at best.
00:51:39
Cameron Resner
It was just average. There's no detail on it.
00:51:44
Callum Jackson
No, it's just a flaccid knob.
00:51:45
Cameron Resner
You need need a cock with detail.
00:51:47
Callum Jackson
Yeah. It needed to be in the screen, IMAX. Like, when it appeared, the cinema needed to vibrate with sound.
00:51:51
Cameron Resner
you
00:51:55
Callum Jackson
Like, it just... Nothing.
00:51:56
Cameron Resner
Yeah, like a 4DX cum shot.
00:51:58
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Where, like, all I can remember of 28 years later is the fucking dicks on those alphas. But... bo we'll get into that soon but the the yeah no Nosferatu there was really cool shots um I did like his performance as Count Alcock that was good but again like I was bored I was bored I'm not like I shan't lie I was bored through it nothing really gripped me yeah
00:52:07
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:52:26
Cameron Resner
I feel like it was too long. i I feel like a lot of these films are too long, the ones that I'm not liking here.
00:52:33
Callum Jackson
Especially horrors.
00:52:33
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:52:34
Callum Jackson
They don't need to be that long.
00:52:35
Cameron Resner
Yeah,
00:52:36
Callum Jackson
Thrillers can be. I like when they go into that sort of story.
00:52:39
Cameron Resner
yeah, yeah.
00:52:39
Callum Jackson
But horrors definitely you should kind of keep under two hours. Two hours maximum I feel.
00:52:45
Cameron Resner
Yeah, because I feel like they're just trying to cock tease you for too long and then you get to the end and it's not even, nothing special.
00:52:45
Callum Jackson
Because like. no Yeah.
00:52:52
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:52:52
Cameron Resner
Whereas if they just just got straight to the point, then what he actually did in the film might be a bit more palatable.
00:53:00
Callum Jackson
Yes.
00:53:02
Callum Jackson
Right, so yeah, unfortunately only anyone that's listening loves that film. um I love The Witch, ah Lighthouse. I love ah Northman, not as much as those two, but I still like it.
00:53:16
Callum Jackson
Nostro done nothing for me. I didn't care. so
00:53:20
Cameron Resner
And he's doing a Wolfman film.
00:53:22
Callum Jackson
that but I'm still interested in what he's going to put out because I think he's a good director. I'm just saying like that that one just missed for me.
00:53:29
Cameron Resner
And he's apparently doing an adaptation of A Christmas Carol with Willem Dafoe as the Scrooge as well.
00:53:39
Callum Jackson
Okay, I'll watch that. Yeah, that'll be good.
00:53:42
Cameron Resner
And writing and directing a sequel to Labyrinth. God, the hell?
00:53:46
Callum Jackson
and Okay.
00:53:47
Cameron Resner
Okay.
00:53:47
Callum Jackson
So he's coming in
00:53:48
Cameron Resner
All
00:53:49
Callum Jackson
You've heard it here first.
00:53:50
Cameron Resner
David Bowie not showing up.
00:53:53
Callum Jackson
Oh, no, they'll deepfake him in.
00:53:56
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:53:56
Callum Jackson
He'll be in the background.
00:53:59
Callum Jackson
don't know why went Austin Powers.
00:54:00
Cameron Resner
I'm not even listening you.
00:54:01
Callum Jackson
He'll be in the background. You're not even listening. They were being rude. um Right. Okay, next one you're going to love. we'll we We all got done with this one, to be fair.
00:54:14
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:54:14
Callum Jackson
It was rated so high and it was just nothing. um
00:54:20
Cameron Resner
OK.
00:54:20
Callum Jackson
Final Destination Bloodline. It was... oh
00:54:25
Cameron Resner
Again, fake. It looked all fake.
00:54:27
Callum Jackson
Yeah, yeah, it looked CGI gooeyness.
00:54:28
Cameron Resner
I don't know why. The earlier films don't look like
00:54:31
Callum Jackson
Yeah, just nothing done it for me in this film again. And I look online and everyone's like, yeah, it's back. And you're like, ah, it's kind of closing all the films off because of bloodline. and But they you know they're going to be like, oh, this made so much money.
00:54:44
Cameron Resner
that.
00:54:44
Callum Jackson
Let's keep going.
00:54:46
Cameron Resner
Yeah. That's never stopping now.
00:54:47
Callum Jackson
But again, big sin. It was boring. And i didn't care. I didn't care who died. I didn't care about any of it. There was that one good scene in the garden. They always have that one good scene where it's building up to a death.
00:54:58
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:54:59
Callum Jackson
um
00:55:00
Cameron Resner
but I feel like needed multiple. The other deaths just weren't that creamy.
00:55:06
Callum Jackson
No, it was kind of predictable. I know they are...
00:55:09
Cameron Resner
The beginning was quite good. I like the beginning.
00:55:13
Callum Jackson
What is the song that's playing? Jump. Everybody.
00:55:16
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:55:16
Callum Jackson
almost Yeah, that that was good. That was good. um But again, it was like a bit CGI on the deaths. I get the CGI of that whole sequence, but the deaths themselves, the blood and that looked really shit.
00:55:32
Callum Jackson
um so
00:55:33
Cameron Resner
But also, I'm someone who thinks that the first final destination is good, and then maybe the second one's okay, and then...
00:55:41
Callum Jackson
I like the third one.
00:55:42
Cameron Resner
No. No.
00:55:46
Callum Jackson
The roller coasters are alright. But thats that's oddly the one that I remember most. And then the one that is... Do you know what? The one that's alright is when it links back to the first one.
00:55:57
Callum Jackson
that's the That's the one that you should have ended the franchise on and gone, you know what?
00:55:58
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Mm-mm.
00:56:01
Callum Jackson
It's not that good, is it? Let's just end it. But again, we're not that big on the Final Destination films, are we?
00:56:08
Cameron Resner
No.
00:56:08
Callum Jackson
So, you know, don't come to us for our opinions on these movies.
00:56:09
Cameron Resner
That's...
00:56:11
Callum Jackson
I don't think they're that good. And Bloodlines confirmed this for me.
'Final Destination Bloodline' Review
00:56:15
Callum Jackson
I was like...
00:56:15
Cameron Resner
It's like...
00:56:16
Callum Jackson
No.
00:56:18
Cameron Resner
It's like a poor man's saw.
00:56:20
Callum Jackson
Yeah. It's shit. I said it.
00:56:23
Cameron Resner
It's shit. Yeah.
00:56:24
Callum Jackson
It's shit.
00:56:24
Cameron Resner
Doesn't... Sophie likes Final Destination. Does she? I know.
00:56:28
Callum Jackson
She does.
00:56:28
Cameron Resner
Didn't
00:56:29
Callum Jackson
I think she likes the third one. I think a lot of people like the third one.
00:56:32
Cameron Resner
we watch one and two and then not get to three?
00:56:34
Callum Jackson
No, no, we watched the third one and then we were like, it's not sore.
00:56:36
Cameron Resner
oh, okay, that's what happened.
00:56:38
Callum Jackson
That was our opinion.
00:56:38
Cameron Resner
Maybe it is story I like, and then, yeah, maybe we watched started watching the others, and I was like, no.
00:56:39
Callum Jackson
That was what we said. It's not sore.
00:56:46
Callum Jackson
But anyway, yeah, we gave it two. I gave it a two and you gave it one and a half.
00:56:49
Cameron Resner
um
00:56:50
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I stick by that, to be fair. Like, I mean... but No, no cock.
00:56:52
Cameron Resner
And no fat dong in that either.
00:56:55
Callum Jackson
We should have done a cock meter for these films. Oh, no, there was a cock!
00:57:00
Cameron Resner
Was there?
00:57:01
Callum Jackson
Yes, when he he had a Prince Albert.
00:57:04
Cameron Resner
Oh.
00:57:04
Callum Jackson
And it got pulled. And then his nipple rings came off.
00:57:06
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:57:09
Callum Jackson
So it does have a cock in it, but you don't see the cock.
00:57:09
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:57:11
Callum Jackson
I think that's that would have taken it the extra mile.
00:57:11
Cameron Resner
That's half a cock. ah
00:57:14
Callum Jackson
Cock came out of the pants.
00:57:16
Cameron Resner
That's half an inch of cock on the cock meter.
00:57:17
Callum Jackson
Yeah. So yeah, that's why i only got two stars. So not as much cock. Anyway, all
00:57:22
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:57:25
Callum Jackson
our latest movie. Now, because you've forgotten literally most of this list. What was our latest horror film? Would you like to remember it?
00:57:36
Cameron Resner
A late horror movie.
00:57:38
Callum Jackson
Don't look. Try and guess. Try remember it.
00:57:41
Cameron Resner
There's quite a few films ah together.
00:57:46
Callum Jackson
Yes, it was together.
00:57:46
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:57:48
Callum Jackson
Now, this one is interesting.
00:57:49
Cameron Resner
Hmm. I'm talking that.
00:57:52
Callum Jackson
I gave it three and a half and you gave it a two and a half.
00:57:56
Cameron Resner
Hmm. Hmm.
00:57:57
Callum Jackson
But I was edging towards a four.
00:58:01
Callum Jackson
I agree with my three and a half now, so I'm glad I went with that. But I'm interested in knowing why. i've I've not spoke to you about this because I'm like, hmm, why a two and a half?
00:58:14
Cameron Resner
I think i I just read my, I put a comment on it saying this is just average babe.
00:58:20
Cameron Resner
And I think that's what, that, the the dialogue was annoying me. I don't know why.
00:58:20
Callum Jackson
Yes.
00:58:25
Callum Jackson
Did they say babe a lot?
00:58:27
Cameron Resner
They did say, but like, day-francox babe.
00:58:29
Callum Jackson
Oh, he would say babe lot, wouldn't he?
00:58:32
Cameron Resner
I don't know. I just feel like there's a lot of times where they were speaking and i was just like, shut up. I was like, I don't know why. Maybe it's, maybe just don't.
00:58:41
Callum Jackson
Do you not like the real life?
00:58:44
Cameron Resner
the real life rawness.
00:58:45
Callum Jackson
Yeah, no, no.
00:58:46
Cameron Resner
i
00:58:46
Callum Jackson
They're both together, aren't they?
00:58:46
Cameron Resner
i
00:58:47
Callum Jackson
They're married.
00:58:48
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I know, which I thought was weird because I ah don't know.
00:58:49
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:58:52
Callum Jackson
that put you off
00:58:52
Cameron Resner
didn't... No, yeah, but I don't feel like they... Like, knowing that, I don't and't feel like they gelled as much as they probably should have for a lot of people.
00:59:03
Callum Jackson
is that because the film's about maybe toxic relationships it seems like yeah do you know what I think
00:59:09
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I just feel like that was a weird way to go when they're in a relationship. Like,
00:59:16
Cameron Resner
I feel like if they went into a film, like all in a good relationship and then something bad happens, I feel like I could have maybe bought that more. Maybe it's because they were trying to be in a bad relationship and they're not.
00:59:27
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:59:28
Callum Jackson
Yeah, so you didn't like it that way around.
00:59:30
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:59:30
Callum Jackson
See, I quite liked it. I didn't like some of the comments I was seeing in the reviews, which I um won't go into, but I just think it was a bit... um It did miss that part, and it took too long to get to the spooky shit and the weird stuff, because I was thinking that the other film that I was going to watch before talking about this, but I haven't got to it yet, what was the one with... um
00:59:56
Callum Jackson
What's her name? I've forgotten. Substance. Is that what it's called? but
00:59:59
Cameron Resner
Substance, yeah, substance.
01:00:00
Callum Jackson
Yeah. I wanted to watch that before watching this um because I like body horror and I haven't got to Substance yet.
01:00:03
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:00:07
Callum Jackson
ah So I thought Together was going to be more that.
01:00:10
Cameron Resner
Yeah, so i substance is definitely more body horror than this.
01:00:11
Callum Jackson
um And it wasn't.
01:00:15
Callum Jackson
Okay, cool, cool. Because I haven't actually seen anything on Substance, so that'll be really fresh through the eyes.
Relationship Dynamics in 'Together'
01:00:21
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
01:00:21
Callum Jackson
I just know the trailer, but even that doesn't really show anything. But um yeah, i was expecting more, and especially it was another fucking advert, wasn't it, where i was like, oh, the best horror of the year.
01:00:32
Callum Jackson
And you watch it and you're like, it's not though. So it did disappoint me on those levels, but I actually quite liked the dynamic. i liked the weird cult that was going on and the church that sunk and...
01:00:42
Cameron Resner
yeah it's I did like the concept of it and what the actual horror part was.
01:00:46
Callum Jackson
yeah
01:00:51
Cameron Resner
did like that.
01:00:52
Callum Jackson
but i didn't if i'm honest i it may ah it makes a difference because it's not a happy technically ending but i didn't actually like the ending with what the message of the film was giving me because it was like these two shouldn't really be together anymore is what i felt um and even if they did choose to be together it
01:01:08
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:01:12
Callum Jackson
it felt like they were forced. Do what mean?
01:01:15
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:01:15
Callum Jackson
Like, it wasn't like, they shouldn't have been that perfect, sorry, spoiler, they shouldn't have been that perfect thing of when they get together, but like, at the end, when they get together and they're, like, mixed into each other, their pet they shouldn't have done that because they were fucked in the head.
01:01:27
Cameron Resner
No, they shouldn't have become one.
01:01:31
Callum Jackson
Like, they didn't, not, like, literally, but, like, they weren't gelling at all the whole film. And the only thing that brought them together was this weird water that they drink.
01:01:40
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:01:41
Callum Jackson
So,
01:01:41
Cameron Resner
And I mean, yeah, it was her dying, wasn't it? Yeah.
01:01:45
Callum Jackson
yeah but Yeah, no, no, but I mean, like, I still feel like he could have helped her. No, one of them chose it, but I feel like that might have been a more fitting ending because it felt like, oh, no, my my partner chose to, like, sacrifice themselves.
01:01:59
Callum Jackson
And then maybe they saw what they had all along, and that could have been the message that they were like, oh, even though all that fucking stupid shit, like...
01:01:59
Cameron Resner
yeah
01:02:08
Callum Jackson
dumb arguments that we're having and that oh no we could have got through this and we did work together in the end but this one felt like no the only way out of this is if we just joined together like literally like it but it felt forced into it it didn't feel like they wanted to actually do it until the last second where one of them was dying it took one of them to die to want to be together which isn't a good message it just feels like a film where it's like don't let go of things that are bad for you in life
01:02:22
Cameron Resner
No, it did come around pretty fast.
01:02:26
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
01:02:28
Cameron Resner
Yes. Yeah, no, that was very weird.
01:02:39
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I mean, but... Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how how much they were probably thinking about trying to send a message of anything.
01:02:49
Callum Jackson
No, neither do I. I just feel like that's the message got out of the film. I was like, fucking hell, are we sure these people should be together?
01:02:51
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:02:56
Callum Jackson
But again, i liked it though. I liked the concept, the the location of it and the actors
Absurd Film Critiques and Sequels
01:03:03
Callum Jackson
I liked. So I know like you said you didn't like Babe, but I liked it. Oh, there was a fucking penis in this one too.
01:03:10
Cameron Resner
There was a penis. Yeah.
01:03:11
Callum Jackson
but There's lots of cock going on.
01:03:13
Cameron Resner
Ripping of the penis.
01:03:13
Callum Jackson
but That was quite interesting.
01:03:15
Cameron Resner
Do you think that...
01:03:16
Callum Jackson
But you could see that one coming, couldn't you?
01:03:18
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:03:19
Callum Jackson
That one was coming.
01:03:19
Cameron Resner
Are you?
01:03:20
Callum Jackson
So basically in the film, if you have no idea what it is, they they drink water and they start, like, if they get next to each other, their body starts, like, literally joining and becoming one.
01:03:31
Callum Jackson
And there was a bit where he he needed to get to her. And then they start shagging in this fucking public school for kids.
01:03:42
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:03:42
Callum Jackson
It's just already... These two shouldn't be together. But then his penis gets stuck and the camera actually shows it. He tries to pull out and then you see like a stretched dick.
01:03:56
Cameron Resner
Yeah. for For a moment.
01:03:58
Callum Jackson
Yeah. It's not a long one, but we've had balls slamming, stretched dicks, small penises from vampires.
01:04:02
Cameron Resner
I'll give that a one. Okay.
01:04:05
Callum Jackson
Maybe Count Alcock, to be fair, maybe he needed to drink the blood to get it grown.
01:04:11
Cameron Resner
Yeah, we didn't see him post blood gulch.
01:04:13
Callum Jackson
No. What a fucking horny guy.
01:04:16
Cameron Resner
do you but Do you think they had a penis or a vagina at the end
01:04:22
Callum Jackson
Both.
01:04:23
Cameron Resner
Both.
01:04:24
Callum Jackson
Both.
01:04:25
Cameron Resner
And what do you think her parents thought when she had no idea?
01:04:28
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that's why I'm... Like, the ending. What the fuck? Yeah, so, like... It's just so weird, wasn't it? um Yeah, like, they open up the door... And there's literally, their parents are there.
01:04:41
Callum Jackson
and But it had did it say it was been three years or something? I can't remember. But time has passed. And these two are now the same person as one, which is ah was a really good song use, wasn't it?
01:04:55
Callum Jackson
When to become one.
01:04:56
Cameron Resner
Yes.
01:04:57
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that was really good. But um that, I just think their parents, like, they must have known Turning Up, right?
01:05:06
Cameron Resner
i don't think no I don't think that long had passed because like just before all the shit goes down, she's like, my parents are coming on Monday. Do you still want to be here? So I think it's like literally the next day.
01:05:16
Callum Jackson
Yeah, but then the the camera pans and it's all new house. Like, all the furniture's moved in.
01:05:23
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah, i didn't clock that.
01:05:25
Callum Jackson
Okay, maybe it's been a few months. Maybe it hasn't. But either way, do the parents know?
01:05:28
Cameron Resner
I thought you just tried it up. Yeah.
01:05:31
Callum Jackson
Do the parents know? um Yeah, I don't know. It's fucking... Like, what a weird ending to just open up a door and have someone vaguely look like them.
01:05:38
Cameron Resner
Together too.
01:05:39
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
01:05:39
Cameron Resner
What happens if you have someone who's together, then drink something and then merge with someone else who's also together? So you have four people.
01:05:50
Callum Jackson
oh my god yeah was like what do you mean together but like with a four somewhere in the the writing forever
01:05:51
Cameron Resner
Do you think that's the sequel? Maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have, yeah, two, four, two bad boys for life.
01:06:06
Callum Jackson
yeah and then make a fourth one yeah which isn't that that's so stupid I would have saved that title just in case what you would have saved that title ugh
01:06:06
Cameron Resner
But it's the third film. Yeah. Yeah.
01:06:15
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I don't know why they were like, why? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the titles don't mean anything. They could have just called the fourth one Bad Boys for Life.
01:06:21
Callum Jackson
No. Yeah, like I know they might it might it might have flopped, but I would have probably watched it if it was called Bad Boys for Life and it was the fourth one.
01:06:23
Cameron Resner
What was the fourth one? Bad Boys 3 or something.
01:06:31
Cameron Resner
Ride or Die, that's what it was called.
01:06:33
Callum Jackson
Fuck it all.
01:06:34
Cameron Resner
Ride or Die. Yeah.
01:06:35
Callum Jackson
Just switch them around. Now that they're released, switch them around. Also, Ride or Die makes more sense for the comeback film, doesn't it?
01:06:44
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:06:44
Callum Jackson
Because it's like, oh yeah, they're Ride or Die, thatre they're coming back. you know, it's ride or die now. And then the other one's like bad boys for life because that they are back.
01:06:51
Cameron Resner
Yeah, and then for... Yeah, because they're old. Yeah, and they're for life.
01:06:56
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Anyway, this isn't the bad boys podcast. So maybe there'll be our next films.
01:07:01
Cameron Resner
No, they're released on Mondays. Yeah. No.
01:07:05
Callum Jackson
Right now that is our, that is our list. So altogether they've been pretty shit. But if you look at the films that we have watched together, not all of them, like not including the horror ones. So as we're seeing, the thrillers are more the ones that we enjoy.
01:07:22
Callum Jackson
And the horrors have kind of been a bit weak.
01:07:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:07:25
Cameron Resner
Definitely.
01:07:26
Callum Jackson
But there has been some honourable mentions that I've got here. um Again, not all of them are great. But we can talk about this for a bit because I know you like it. 28 Years Later...
01:07:38
Callum Jackson
That was my number one here.
01:07:38
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:07:39
Callum Jackson
So I think that was like quite a recent one too. Which also there's a new trailer out for the new one.
01:07:44
Cameron Resner
Yeah, i just watched that. I'm good.
01:07:45
Callum Jackson
I haven't seen it. I saw a little bit. don't know. I'm waiting for Soph so we can watch it together. But i'm just I'm quite happy that it's coming out so soon. January.
01:07:56
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:07:56
Callum Jackson
i i didn't I knew there was going to be three, right?
01:07:56
Cameron Resner
And then the third one's at the end of next year, I think.
01:07:59
Callum Jackson
Three? But I didn't know it was going to be so soon. Cool. All right. That's good. I like that sort of pacing with the films. But I gave it a three and a half and you gave it a four and a half.
01:08:11
Callum Jackson
Now,
01:08:14
Callum Jackson
don't hate me. but I probably would give it less. But I don't like these films that much anyway. I don't think they're very good, any of them.
UK Film Settings and Zombie Evolution
01:08:27
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:08:27
Callum Jackson
But saying that, this one's my favorite. um There was a lot I liked. And then there was a lot I didn't like. Mainly the the weird arrow shots that hit something and stopped and spun.
01:08:42
Cameron Resner
Yeah, that was...
01:08:44
Callum Jackson
And but the ending I didn't like. Sorry. The Jimmy Savile things. are just didn I was like, what the fuck's going on? but um and how like the sort of disjointed the film felt but i then ah did like the the the big alphas and that the world outside uh and the mum's storyline was pretty good to me quite liked that uh but yeah uh you really liked it though right
01:09:08
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:09:16
Cameron Resner
Yeah, i really liked it. And I think it's, I don't know, I think I'm kind of maybe thinking about it as like setup to maybe more that's going to happen.
01:09:29
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
01:09:29
Cameron Resner
And it wasn't too long either, which was it like an hour and a half or something.
01:09:31
Callum Jackson
No.
01:09:35
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Well, didn't feel long, so...
01:09:35
Cameron Resner
So that, yeah. and But no, I really i really liked it. and i yeah I mean, I really liked the first one. ah I just think it's quite a unique perspective. You don't usually get films like this that are in the UK.
01:09:53
Cameron Resner
And I usually quite like usually quite like to see films in the UK because so that they're not the normal that you see.
01:09:54
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
01:10:01
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:10:01
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it's also nice to see because you're from somewhere. Like when you see stuff like that, it's quite nice to see when you're like, oh yeah, it's London.
01:10:06
Cameron Resner
yeah
01:10:09
Cameron Resner
And yeah you watch like 28 days later and you're like and like, I think I watched again during, actually during COVID and you're like, when he's walking through London and stuff, like that's pretty crazy.
01:10:22
Cameron Resner
you got that pretty spot on that kind of, and it is mad how they they actually managed to get that shot, those shots as well, just completely empty London at this point.
01:10:24
Callum Jackson
Yeah, did feel like that.
01:10:32
Callum Jackson
Yeah, they'd done it like quite early in the day, didn't they?
01:10:34
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:35
Callum Jackson
But no, it's quite, yeah, because that was another budget thing. They didn't shut off roads. They were just like, fuck it, go now. And as it before London starts waking up.
01:10:41
Cameron Resner
I
01:10:42
Callum Jackson
But um yeah, no, I agree. I do see what they've done. And I feel like, were they like the sort of first running zombies on film? Like, was that what sort of introduced it?
01:10:51
Cameron Resner
think so, yeah. I think they were the more, yeah, the first kind of rage zombies, yeah.
01:10:53
Callum Jackson
Aggressive type, yeah.
01:10:55
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:10:56
Callum Jackson
Not the ones that are like from fucking Thriller music video or Dawn of the Dead. the
01:11:03
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:11:03
Callum Jackson
They were like full on, they had a, their brain was just angry, which I guess ah relates to a lot of zombies that we've seen since. I feel like so many zombies are just that sort of type, like Last of Us and World War Z, definitely like,
01:11:19
Cameron Resner
yeah but I like how they're trying to evolve it in this I feel like they're trying to like with the baby and stuff like that I feel like it's quite interesting lore stuff and I feel like it's quite unique you kind of got this world that because the film came out like 25 years ago people feel like they've almost grown up in so now they're almost whoa
01:11:26
Callum Jackson
Yeah. and Yeah.
01:11:42
Cameron Resner
well Now the zombies are doing what? And actually feels like that amount of time, well, basically that amount of time has passed, which is interesting, I feel like.
01:11:45
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
01:11:49
Callum Jackson
yeah Yeah, no, I agree. I think... um Yeah, I just think maybe my expectations was I've got stop watching trailers, but I mean, it's hard when you go to the cinema and they just show you the trailer every time because, you know, go to the cinema a lot, but the bit with...
01:12:02
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:12:06
Callum Jackson
The the trailer was so good. Like, I loved the trailer with the countdown sort of thing.
01:12:11
Cameron Resner
The trailer's very good.
01:12:12
Callum Jackson
Yeah, they were really... They were really good, and and I don't think the film for me just lived up to that. That was that was all my sort problem. I thought it was going for more of like... I mean, it did feel kind of Last of Us anyway, but it felt almost to me, other than when... Is his name Spike, the kid?
01:12:30
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:12:30
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Other than when he actually started going out with his mum to try and cure her, which was the point, I thought the beginning part, although quite tense, was quite weak because...
01:12:36
Cameron Resner
ah
01:12:42
Callum Jackson
It just was like, oh, do you want to go out hunting now, son? Yeah, sure, dad. And i was like, oh, is that why you're leaving? Like, it didn't it didn't make much sense. There wasn't really a quest. It was just two people going out to go kill.
01:12:52
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:12:54
Callum Jackson
And I was like, oh, that's a bit of wait we' sort of plot point. But okay. Again, it wasn't awful. I'm not saying it was. It was just something that sort of caught me off guard when you look at trailers and your mind's expecting something.
01:13:04
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it did feel like not british not really thought much about. It just like, how do we get these people out, basically?
01:13:12
Callum Jackson
Yes, exactly. Now, the cocks were massive in that film, weren't they? Before we move on.
01:13:17
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:13:18
Callum Jackson
to Fuck me.
01:13:19
Cameron Resner
That was surprise propped.
01:13:19
Callum Jackson
like Distracting. i was ah I went to Screen X and it filled from one side to the other. So Screen X was like, it's on the sides of you as well. yeah
01:13:28
Cameron Resner
You were like Willem Dafoe in that meme.
01:13:29
Callum Jackson
You remember? Yeah, honestly. I i was a home like, oh my God. It was so distracting. ah that like it was Jesus Christ. Do you think they're real fake?
01:13:41
Cameron Resner
I think that's real.
01:13:42
Callum Jackson
fuck me
01:13:44
Cameron Resner
i mean, he's a big guy.
01:13:45
Callum Jackson
He didn't need to rip the guy's head off. He could have just swung that around and killed everyone.
01:13:49
Cameron Resner
Maybe in the next one.
01:13:50
Callum Jackson
There was no need for that. he just it was It was just extra damage.
01:13:54
Cameron Resner
He is in the trailer for the next one. Yeah.
01:13:55
Callum Jackson
Yes, yeah I did see that bit where Ralph Fines...
01:13:58
Cameron Resner
yeah
01:13:59
Callum Jackson
Sorry.
01:14:01
Cameron Resner
Finished.
01:14:01
Callum Jackson
and it was now I know it's Ralph Fines. But Fines is just... yeah i won't I won't shame her. But anyway, yeah, so... Yeah, I think yeah he was like tapping his shoulder or some shit, but i feel like he's just he's going to lose the plot at some point. When he wakes up and he knows his woman's dead and baby's gone, he's not goingnna have a good time.
01:14:21
Callum Jackson
But I am interested in where that goes with the baby and what's going to happen with that sort of thing.
01:14:25
Cameron Resner
yeah and a Cillian Murphy return Cillian Murphy no I think the director actually said he's going to be a little bit in this one and then the third one is basically back
01:14:25
Callum Jackson
So, yeah.
01:14:30
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I heard that. um But is he in the trailer at all? Okay, cool. All right.
01:14:40
Callum Jackson
Yeah, yeah, I did see that. And I think, but no, he's in the trailer for the first one. you remember the zombies?
01:14:46
Cameron Resner
that's him
01:14:47
Callum Jackson
That's him. But no, I do like how, you know, in a world, see, the reason why also don't care much for it as well, we've had Last of Us since, and that is my favorite storyline in a sort of apocalyptic world.
01:15:01
Callum Jackson
It's fucking amazing. And, you know, I haven't watched the second season still.
01:15:04
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:15:07
Callum Jackson
I did like the first one, um but I think I'll just stick to the games. But um yeah, i I fucking love that storyline and the acting.
01:15:11
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
01:15:15
Callum Jackson
and It's just the music. yeah and then that started inspiring other shit like after everyone's got a kid or a companion with them now like God of War done it with his son it just works that storyline just works and I feel like Last of Us really hit home with that sort of storyline of like the kid be in there but um yeah not just like i'm comparing them because they're like zombie things but i'm just saying like since that came out that was the sort of thing but what i like with this one is that they don't feel like straight up zombies like now they're feeling almost like their own kind of i am legend you know like where they they have a brain and they they want to survive in their own way they're not just trapped inside of something they they're evolving
01:15:40
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:15:54
Cameron Resner
Yeah. yeah like large Yeah. They're more like a new
01:16:02
Cameron Resner
yeah like a new species of human or something.
01:16:05
Callum Jackson
Yeah, which is interesting.
01:16:05
Cameron Resner
Yeah. I do like that.
01:16:06
Callum Jackson
interesting So I like that.
01:16:07
Cameron Resner
ah you know
01:16:08
Callum Jackson
um That take is quite good. And like the fact that there is alphas, it's like, oh, so they have like almost communities going on. Like, I wonder what else is out there. So they're intriguing me with that, where something like World War Z or Last of Us, you just know it's fucked.
01:16:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah, everything's fine.
01:16:22
Callum Jackson
Where this could be the next step
01:16:24
Cameron Resner
More fun. Yeah.
01:16:25
Callum Jackson
in evolution so yeah yeah i like that right the next one um we won't go on too much longer because it's already a bit long but uh the next one i just wanted to say because you recommended this to me i don't have what we rated because these ones are just more i just want to quickly go over but uh the strange thing about the johnsons
01:16:42
Cameron Resner
Sure.
01:16:46
Cameron Resner
The strange thing about the chances.
01:16:48
Callum Jackson
um um have a think have a think
01:16:55
Callum Jackson
it's ah It's a loving story about a father and a son.
01:16:57
Cameron Resner
Oh, yes yes. I was even just looking at it on Google. I was like, what is that? Yeah. and yeah
01:17:03
Callum Jackson
Now you recommended that to me.
01:17:05
Cameron Resner
I did. i did. Yeah,
01:17:06
Callum Jackson
um After we watched Midsommar. Oh, we watched Midsommar together. That was quite good. Again, it was a different year.
01:17:10
Cameron Resner
yeah that was good.
01:17:11
Callum Jackson
But that film's fucking weird. It's a short film.
01:17:17
Cameron Resner
No donging that.
01:17:18
Callum Jackson
no that No, but there's worse things, isn't there?
01:17:20
Cameron Resner
Implied dong. Implied dong.
01:17:23
Callum Jackson
Oh, God.
01:17:24
Cameron Resner
God.
01:17:24
Callum Jackson
Yeah, so that film... Yeah, short film, it's a bit fucked up. It's basically... what Was it the the dad... but Was it the son falling in love with the dad?
01:17:36
Callum Jackson
Or was the dad into it as well?
01:17:37
Cameron Resner
Yeah. No, the dad was very much not into it.
01:17:40
Callum Jackson
No, I know he wasn't in the end, but he started it. Or was it just full-on, he couldn't do anything about it, and the son just was basically raping him?
01:17:44
Cameron Resner
No, didn't. and Yeah, that was it.
01:17:49
Callum Jackson
Okay, yeah. Yeah, no, that's a bad film. thus I didn't expect that at all.
01:17:54
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
01:17:54
Callum Jackson
That was fucking weird.
01:17:56
Cameron Resner
It says, what, 20 minutes long or something?
01:17:58
Callum Jackson
Yeah, yeah.
01:17:59
Cameron Resner
It's a short film from school.
01:18:00
Callum Jackson
Yeah. um I actually recommend it because it is, well, not now that I've told you the plot, but for that alone and then seeing where it goes, is it's a weird time.
01:18:03
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
01:18:09
Cameron Resner
Yeah?
01:18:09
Callum Jackson
And if you're just interested in short films or something like if you're interested in fucking incest and rape,
01:18:17
Cameron Resner
For those of you out there.
01:18:17
Callum Jackson
It's right up your street. If you're interested in incest and rape, and if you've ever had a crush on your dad, this film's a five stars.
01:18:21
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
01:18:24
Callum Jackson
You're going to fucking love it.
01:18:26
Cameron Resner
Yeah, or if you a crush on someone else's name.
01:18:27
Callum Jackson
Right, um next one is a thriller, Companion.
01:18:30
Cameron Resner
Companion.
01:18:31
Callum Jackson
Yes, I liked that.
01:18:34
Cameron Resner
Companion.
01:18:35
Callum Jackson
It's the one where B-Boot, yeah.
01:18:36
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:18:38
Callum Jackson
I liked that. Again, I liked all the actors in it. um
01:18:42
Cameron Resner
if I did forget about this one. I did like this one, actually.
01:18:44
Callum Jackson
again, I think it's another film where they could have, they could have gone a bit deeper into what was going on or, or maybe just a bit more. I can't, cause it's been a bit of a while. I can't really pinpoint exactly, but in my head I'm thinking, yeah I like that one.
01:18:59
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it's another
01:18:59
Callum Jackson
So, um,
Surprise Thrillers and Critiques
01:19:00
Cameron Resner
interesting thing that's happening in it.
01:19:03
Callum Jackson
Yeah, and you know and again, don't watch a trailer or look at a poster for that one because you don't know... i mean, fuck it, I'm spoiling it. if We spoil things in this, if you haven't told already, but if you can, just message from this point.
01:19:19
Callum Jackson
Don't... Don't look at fucking posters and trailers if you're interested in something. Because this one shows you something. And then later, it's revealed.
01:19:30
Callum Jackson
I actually won't say it here.
01:19:31
Cameron Resner
Not a dong.
01:19:32
Callum Jackson
But it's revealed, isn't it? And I feel like if you didn't know that going in, it would enhance the film.
01:19:38
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it's not a dong.
01:19:39
Callum Jackson
So, no, it's not car. Is there any car? No.
01:19:42
Cameron Resner
I think there is, actually.
01:19:43
Callum Jackson
Is there?
01:19:44
Cameron Resner
A Jack Quaid.
01:19:46
Callum Jackson
Oh my god! There is a little bit of that.
01:19:49
Cameron Resner
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:19:49
Callum Jackson
I think there is. Fucking hell, there's so much dick. Anyway, so, yeah, so I enjoyed that film. Cameron enjoys that film. I think definitely watch that as b blind as possible. You'll probably get more out of it from that LM.
01:20:01
Cameron Resner
Agreed. I like
01:20:02
Callum Jackson
All right, now the next one we didn't see together, but we both watched it. What did you think about Saltburn? Hmm.
01:20:11
Cameron Resner
it. Saltburn. um I think hi liked it a little bit. Again, i think I thought it was a bit slow.
01:20:21
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
01:20:22
Cameron Resner
Not much happening.
01:20:23
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yep.
01:20:25
Cameron Resner
Premise was premises cool. Actors were cool. I really like the actors in it. Again, another one of those kind of like things that happen in Britain or England, which which I like.
01:20:37
Callum Jackson
Yes, that's what I liked. um
01:20:40
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:20:41
Callum Jackson
I wasn't interested in it at all. But then everyone i knew had literally seen it. So I was like, why the fuck haven't I watched it yet? well What am I missing?
01:20:53
Callum Jackson
I did like it.
01:20:55
Cameron Resner
definitely one of those films that just comes out of nowhere and then everyone's talking about it and you're like...
01:20:58
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
01:21:00
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:21:00
Callum Jackson
And did it deserve that? Yeah, I would say it's worth a watch. I enjoyed it.
01:21:04
Cameron Resner
yeah Oh,
01:21:04
Callum Jackson
um If you're into those kind of artsy films as well, shot on like, what was the fucking, I can't remember what the square aspect ratio is, but yeah, you know, a bit artsy. And and there was some really nice shots in it.
01:21:18
Callum Jackson
Not the one where he's fucking rimming a bath sink, sinkhole, but yeah, that's...
01:21:21
Cameron Resner
Mmm.
01:21:24
Cameron Resner
And another cock in it.
01:21:26
Callum Jackson
And another cock, was going to get to that.
01:21:27
Cameron Resner
Jesus Christ.
01:21:29
Callum Jackson
A big cock fucking swinging while he's dancing to murder on the dance floor. That was a great sequence.
01:21:35
Cameron Resner
Hmm.
01:21:36
Callum Jackson
Recommend it for that alone. And I think that song got in the charts again in England.
01:21:38
Cameron Resner
Yeah. it
01:21:41
Callum Jackson
So that says enough.
01:21:42
Cameron Resner
It's still around again. It's still around.
01:21:43
Callum Jackson
that's how that yeah That's how much that film sort of gained popularity, didn't it?
01:21:49
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:21:49
Callum Jackson
um right um the other ones are just you know they're nothing i'm not really gonna we're not gonna sit on them long but i had sorax here meg two shit annihilation i just wanted to say like because you came around to watch that and i haven't seen in years did you actually enjoy that
01:22:00
Cameron Resner
Oh, shit.
01:22:06
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I think so.
01:22:08
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
01:22:08
Cameron Resner
I think, yeah, yeah, I remember.
01:22:09
Callum Jackson
I think about that film often and I like the book a lot and I've just bought the trilogy.
01:22:10
Cameron Resner
Yeah, did that.
01:22:16
Callum Jackson
um So I want to read them, but I just, I really like that sort of world and I wish there was more of that sort stuff.
01:22:16
Cameron Resner
Hmm.
01:22:23
Callum Jackson
I'm sure there is. I just haven't looked into it, but very weird and I like it. And there's that game coming out, Hell is Us, which has reminded me a lot of it.
01:22:31
Cameron Resner
He's a very good director.
01:22:31
Callum Jackson
So yes.
01:22:32
Cameron Resner
He makes good shit.
01:22:34
Callum Jackson
Yeah, he does.
01:22:34
Cameron Resner
And he wrote 28 Days Later.
01:22:37
Callum Jackson
He did, didn't he?
01:22:38
Cameron Resner
he was That was the first thing that he did.
01:22:38
Callum Jackson
Yeah. And he'd done Civil War as well, didn't
01:22:42
Cameron Resner
Yeah, 28 Days Later and then has been writing 28 Years Later.
01:22:43
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Ex Machina. Yeah. Yeah, no, he's a good director, so I like his sort of things. Right. and ah the Maybe the biggest horror film of them all here, ah The Flash.
01:22:56
Cameron Resner
God. When he puts that baby in the microwave.
01:22:59
Callum Jackson
Yeah, true horror.
01:23:01
Cameron Resner
That is
The Decline of Blockbusters and Remakes
01:23:02
Callum Jackson
When we see all the CGI supermen.
01:23:02
Cameron Resner
truly horrifying.
01:23:05
Cameron Resner
Yes.
01:23:06
Callum Jackson
Hmm.
01:23:08
Cameron Resner
suit CGI flash is just all CGI shit.
01:23:08
Callum Jackson
fucking horror.
01:23:13
Cameron Resner
And then the CGI George Clooney at the end.
01:23:13
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
01:23:15
Callum Jackson
Yeah. It's not...
01:23:18
Cameron Resner
Although did see a comment the other day. I was like, I like how, I like to think that James Gunn just thinks that the Flash took all of the old DCU characters and just put them in Batman and Robin's universe. And I was like, that's quite funny.
01:23:32
Callum Jackson
that's good He did get everyone though, didn't it He said this is the greatest superhero film of all time.
01:23:32
Cameron Resner
He just dumped them all there. Yeah. He said it was pretty good film. Yeah, that was a worrying comment.
01:23:39
Callum Jackson
Fuck. That was, that was Warren before he released Superman, wasn't it?
01:23:42
Cameron Resner
I was like, quiet yeah, I was like, a lot of people were saying it was good, I thought. Again, I think...
01:23:47
Callum Jackson
Yeah, yeah, before it came out, it was.
01:23:47
Cameron Resner
What the...
01:23:49
Callum Jackson
Yeah. But honestly, that's one of the worst superhero films I've ever seen.
01:23:54
Cameron Resner
Yeah, what was people thinking when they...
01:23:56
Callum Jackson
It's bad. I...
01:23:59
Cameron Resner
What were they thinking when they made that film?
01:24:02
Callum Jackson
Fuck no.
01:24:03
Cameron Resner
Jesus, 81% audience rating. Yeah. The Flash is funny, fittingly paced, and one of the best DC movies in recent years.
01:24:08
Callum Jackson
Fuck off.
01:24:11
Callum Jackson
What?
01:24:14
Cameron Resner
Well, I mean, I guess when you're comparing it to the shit that was coming out.
01:24:19
Callum Jackson
Yeah, but it still is just as bad.
01:24:20
Cameron Resner
What, Aquaman 2? Wonder Woman?
01:24:22
Callum Jackson
ah I haven't seen Wonder Woman or Aquaman.
01:24:25
Cameron Resner
No, neither of us.
01:24:25
Callum Jackson
I've seen Aquaman anything.
01:24:26
Cameron Resner
ever seen Aquaman 2.
01:24:29
Callum Jackson
I've seen Wonder Woman and then the Justice League films and Manor still, but I wasn't interested in those fucking films.
01:24:30
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
01:24:39
Callum Jackson
Another film that didn't really hit was Scream 6.
01:24:39
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:24:42
Callum Jackson
I don't think we liked that.
01:24:44
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:24:45
Callum Jackson
And the film that... I actually, I'm going to leave, there's one after this, but I'm going to kind of leave it here. um But it was Nope.
01:24:59
Callum Jackson
And we did see that together. That's why I actually put this here.
01:25:02
Cameron Resner
yeah
01:25:02
Callum Jackson
And I didn't think much of it when it came out because I like his other two, like Get Out and Us a lot.
01:25:02
Cameron Resner
but
01:25:09
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:25:09
Callum Jackson
um But I re-watched it, and I i think i think it's because I wanted, i really liked that sort of alien thing, ah the the the thing that they're going for, and I was like, oh, fucking hell, it's a UFO for the first time in ages that there's been something like this.
01:25:16
Cameron Resner
Uh-huh.
01:25:24
Callum Jackson
So maybe I was more hyped going into it than I should have been, but yeah, I enjoyed it. I just think it wasn't great.
01:25:31
Cameron Resner
Yeah. I think I... No, it wasn't as good as the other two, I don't think.
01:25:36
Callum Jackson
No. But then I did re-watch and love it.
01:25:36
Cameron Resner
I kind of expected.
01:25:38
Callum Jackson
thought it was really good on the second watch.
01:25:40
Cameron Resner
That's fair. Yeah.
01:25:41
Callum Jackson
But yeah, at the time, maybe I was a little bit disappointed by that. um Sorry, I just have to fucking say this. Army of the Dead. Do you remember that? Fucking hell.
01:25:52
Cameron Resner
God.
01:25:52
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
01:25:53
Cameron Resner
Yeah. So that's Snyder.
01:25:54
Callum Jackson
Zombie film that's bad.
01:25:56
Cameron Resner
Is that Snyder?
01:25:57
Callum Jackson
Yes.
01:25:59
Cameron Resner
God, yeah. That was is one of his one of his first Netflix films before the hit.
01:26:03
Callum Jackson
Has he... Yeah.
01:26:04
Cameron Resner
and What was this fucking rebel movie?
01:26:06
Callum Jackson
Rebel Moon. Has he made anything good but since maybe Watchmen?
01:26:12
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah, i was going to say...
01:26:14
Callum Jackson
Man of Steel. like yeah
01:26:16
Cameron Resner
Yes, yes.
01:26:17
Callum Jackson
Sucker Punch I like.
01:26:20
Cameron Resner
When was 300? was going to say it was after. That was before Watchmen.
01:26:22
Callum Jackson
That was like 2007 maybe? 5, 6? I don't know but that was an old one. But anyway yeah he's kind of since the DC films he's been falling off really.
01:26:34
Cameron Resner
Yeah, hes I don't know what the fuck he's doing. said He needs to just come in and direct. I feel like he's a good... coming in and direct someone else's material kind of guy.
01:26:47
Callum Jackson
Yeah. No.
01:26:47
Cameron Resner
But when he tries to make too much of his own stuff, I feel like he goes... Like, he shouldn't he shouldn't have been just running the whole of the DC universe. Because, like, one Zack Snyder film is fine and and pretty good, but then for them all to be...
01:26:59
Callum Jackson
No.
01:27:05
Cameron Resner
Basically feel like the same vibe and stuff, it's just like, come on. You can't...
01:27:11
Callum Jackson
Yeah, maybe that's what kind of ruined it.
01:27:13
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:27:14
Callum Jackson
Maybe too much pressure on him or whatever, but I don't think his vision was very clear or great.
01:27:20
Cameron Resner
No.
01:27:20
Callum Jackson
And maybe a lot of studio interference as well because they had... No, actually, actually it was the other way around, wasn't it? it was They made Batman v Superman, like the announcement, and then Marvel was like, shit, make Civil War, but Civil War was good.
01:27:32
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
01:27:33
Callum Jackson
So yeah, weird one how that turns out.
01:27:33
Cameron Resner
So. Mm-hmm.
01:27:35
Callum Jackson
um Right, I am actually going to leave on one last one. This is my true last one.
01:27:41
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
01:27:43
Callum Jackson
Megacockulus.
01:27:44
Cameron Resner
Mechacockulus. I haven't even finished that.
01:27:48
Callum Jackson
I did.
01:27:49
Cameron Resner
I know you did. You bought it. Just explain that film I came around to watch and then we stopped because I couldn't carry on.
01:27:51
Callum Jackson
I had to get my... Well, actually...
01:27:58
Callum Jackson
Yeah, so that's actually why I wanted to mention that one because after all these films and we've watched so many stinkers together, that was the film that I think broke us and we were like, we can't do this anymore.
01:28:11
Cameron Resner
Yeah, if I had watched that in the cinema, that might have been the first film I i walked out of.
01:28:17
Callum Jackson
I think I would have as well. I only carried on watching it out of pure interest and I was planning on making a video on it, but it bored me so much I couldn't.
01:28:18
Cameron Resner
I'm not saying that.
01:28:29
Callum Jackson
it was It was fucking painful. I'm not i'm not even going to bore people. the reason why ah brought it up was because that was the film that ended this. And not a horror film or a thriller at all. But that was the film that we would consider one of the bad ones.
01:28:43
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:28:44
Callum Jackson
And we were like, yeah, and we were like we can't do this anymore.
01:28:45
Cameron Resner
When bad films got too bad.
01:28:48
Callum Jackson
We can't waste our time.
01:28:50
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:28:51
Callum Jackson
And it's not a short film either.
01:28:53
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it scared us off such hits as... What was that film we saw on Prime? Jesus... Fuck.
01:29:00
Callum Jackson
Jesus.
01:29:01
Cameron Resner
Remember we were looking through Amazon Prime and it was like Jesus... was like a film about a Jesus Kung Fu man or something. And we saw it when we saw that one with a square head as well.
01:29:12
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that was a weird one.
01:29:12
Cameron Resner
You know, that we've got the man's chin on his head.
01:29:13
Callum Jackson
He had like a six pack for a head.
01:29:14
Cameron Resner
Yeah, the same back of his head.
01:29:15
Callum Jackson
And then we saw that one, the toxic Avenger, which has come out recently.
01:29:19
Cameron Resner
and Yeah. Yeah.
01:29:21
Callum Jackson
as a new film, which I wouldn't mind watching both of them because actually look mildly entertaining.
01:29:26
Cameron Resner
yeah
01:29:26
Callum Jackson
ah But maybe that'll be on the list of bad films. But anyway, ah yeah, we've been talking about these films for about an hour. I know it's like an hour and a half right now, but we have a little intro. So I think I'm just going to stop it there. We don't need to carry on going.
01:29:40
Callum Jackson
But yeah, so all in all, pretty shit, right?
01:29:46
Cameron Resner
Good times all around.
Future Podcast Topics: Remakes and Adaptations
01:29:49
Cameron Resner
ah No, there was a few good ones in there.
01:29:51
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
01:29:52
Cameron Resner
But I do remember there was like two months last year where it was just back to back and that.
01:29:58
Callum Jackson
And that broke us.
01:29:59
Cameron Resner
And that, yeah, it has broke broke me. To be honest, I don't, yeah, I don't watch any, if a horror trailer comes out, I don't really watch it. I just wait for you to tell me to see it basically and then.
01:30:09
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
01:30:13
Callum Jackson
yeah but what if you don't like it
01:30:15
Cameron Resner
um to and I don't know, I think I did ah yeah i don't think I'm that intolerant to be honest we'll go through those another time yeah sounds very good, sounds cushy
01:30:22
Callum Jackson
Yeah, i I do. And again, I did have like a whole list of films that did watch without you that very much did enjoy. but Yeah, I was thinking of going through them, but maybe you've just joining that in our list of the year at the end of the year.
01:30:39
Callum Jackson
We'll get to that. Yeah. um But I will say we need to watch it soon, which is definitely... i'm I'm going to give it the title of horror, even though it's not that scary.
01:30:50
Callum Jackson
ah Sinners. We need to watch that soon.
01:30:53
Cameron Resner
yeah
01:30:54
Callum Jackson
Because I fucking love that film. So, yeah. and But that was one that i watched without you, and I gave it a five.
01:31:01
Cameron Resner
You did.
01:31:01
Callum Jackson
It's fucking great.
01:31:02
Cameron Resner
I praise. Good night.
01:31:04
Callum Jackson
It was great. um But yeah, we'll talk about that this time. I think that's it, yeah?
01:31:08
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah, i think I think that's it for this week. Maybe next week we'll talk about some remakes, maybe.
01:31:13
Callum Jackson
Yep.
01:31:16
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Talking about the game in space, yeah.
01:31:17
Cameron Resner
Talk about Metal Gear. And maybe maybe a bit... I do want to talk to you about the Harry Potter TV show remake as well.
01:31:24
Callum Jackson
Ooh.
01:31:24
Cameron Resner
Maybe we'll fuse those together. Hmm.
01:31:26
Callum Jackson
Ooh, I won't look into it. And i'll I'll let you kind of tell me what's up. I will let you know right now.
01:31:32
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:31:33
Callum Jackson
And we we can talk about this next week. um James Bond's first light is getting a thing tomorrow, isn't it?
01:31:39
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it's tonight.
01:31:41
Callum Jackson
A state of play.
01:31:41
Cameron Resner
Tonight. It's Wednesday.
01:31:43
Callum Jackson
30 minutes long. So we'll talk about that next week as well.
01:31:46
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:31:47
Callum Jackson
um
01:31:47
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I'm going to give that a watch.
01:31:48
Callum Jackson
Yeah, but yeah, we we can probably watch that at same time. But i that was in the list and I didn't want to talk about it.
01:31:53
Cameron Resner
And when are we going to talk about Morbius?
01:31:59
Cameron Resner
You didn't want to talk about it?
01:32:01
Callum Jackson
going on? I don't want to talk about Morbius.
01:32:03
Cameron Resner
Why didn't you want do it? Why not?
01:32:07
Callum Jackson
It was bad. We done it last week.
01:32:17
Callum Jackson
ah You want to talk about Morbius?
01:32:18
Cameron Resner
That's all to come. No, we'll talk about...
01:32:21
Callum Jackson
We'll talk about the fucking Sony MCU.
01:32:22
Cameron Resner
think we'll talk about... There's only by a sign of this. Yeah.
01:32:26
Callum Jackson
What? Yeah, Sony Spider-Man.
01:32:27
Cameron Resner
butja Okay, all right. You've got all that to look forward to.
01:32:31
Callum Jackson
No, because I haven't seen a lot of them. Don't make me. Don't make me.
01:32:36
Cameron Resner
Neither have I. Madam Web, up first.
01:32:44
Callum Jackson
Right.
01:32:44
Cameron Resner
Right.
01:32:44
Callum Jackson
See you later.