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Game Awards Breakdown- Episode #13
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Welcome to the 13th episode.
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Transcript
Innovative Podcast Intros
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Callum Jackson
do ding do put
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Cameron Resner
Hello.
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Callum Jackson
That was good. God, fuck it.
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Cameron Resner
That was cool.
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Callum Jackson
What's this one?
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Cameron Resner
I only found out the other day that you could play them all at the same time.
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Callum Jackson
That's our new intro.
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Cameron Resner
I did like that.
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Callum Jackson
What was the or was the Avengers one?
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Cameron Resner
You could layer it. I just had Avengers. I can't remember why I had Avengers.
00:00:37
Cameron Resner
What was this? I can't remember. It's one of the first ones we did, I think, in the first episode.
00:00:43
Callum Jackson
Sorry everyone, we're just figuring out something.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
Oh.
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Cameron Resner
Oh, there you go. ah
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Callum Jackson
I knew he would make it into the episode.
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Cameron Resner
He's in.
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Callum Jackson
He's in.
Episode Number Dilemma
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Cameron Resner
God, I didn't, yeah.
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Callum Jackson
Jared Leto's back.
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Cameron Resner
I had no memory of that.
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Callum Jackson
Neither did I. Alright.
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Cameron Resner
He said it's Mormon time.
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Callum Jackson
Yep, that is fantastic.
00:01:05
Cameron Resner
Delicious.
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Cameron Resner
Welcome to the 14th or 13th episode. 12.
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Callum Jackson
Whichever one you like.
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Cameron Resner
One of those. One of those.
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Callum Jackson
Yep.
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Cameron Resner
Above 10, I think.
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Callum Jackson
okay Yep. More than last time.
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Cameron Resner
m Time to end it now.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, before we keep making...
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Cameron Resner
Before we get too big.
00:01:26
Callum Jackson
Yeah, keep talking about Jailer.
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Cameron Resner
mm Shout out to our top podcast listeners of the year.
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Callum Jackson
I don't know.
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Callum Jackson
Yes.
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Cameron Resner
Thank you. You know who you are.
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Callum Jackson
Thank you so much.
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Cameron Resner
One of us will give you a thanking to later.
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Callum Jackson
yeah oh who um No, I know it's me.
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Cameron Resner
It's you. It's not me. Oh. yeah
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Callum Jackson
That wasn't the whoa.
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Cameron Resner
you Sorry, i thought that's what the word was.
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Callum Jackson
I'll see you later, George.
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Cameron Resner
All right. Yeah. God.
Game Awards Highlights
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Callum Jackson
Jolly Roger. Right.
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Cameron Resner
Poor cum bucket.
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Callum Jackson
So, Game Awards.
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Cameron Resner
Okay. Game Awards. Indeed.
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Callum Jackson
here
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Cameron Resner
Big show. Went on for five hours.
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Callum Jackson
Did it?
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Cameron Resner
I didn't watch any of it. yeah
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Callum Jackson
No, it didn't.
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Cameron Resner
It did. I think so.
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Callum Jackson
Fuck. Okay, cool.
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Cameron Resner
Including the pre-show. Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
What time did it start for us? Like, what time would it have been?
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Cameron Resner
Midnight or one or half twelve or something like that.
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Callum Jackson
Oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, I was asleep, yeah. I didn't watch it either.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah. and
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Callum Jackson
I caught the highlights.
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Cameron Resner
So late one. Claire Obscure winning game of the year. Of course.
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Callum Jackson
Didn't it win, like, eight awards or something?
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Cameron Resner
Yeah. and
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Callum Jackson
The most in Game Award history.
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Cameron Resner
really? We didn't know that.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, I think I saw that, yeah.
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Cameron Resner
Marvelous.
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Callum Jackson
that's That, i hope, this this game all the same with Oscars, that it doesn't really matter, but you just hope that that winning so many wakes some studios up.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, you'd hope so.
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Callum Jackson
Because like an indie dev just came in out of nowhere and was like, hmm.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, i think that might be the most indie game to...
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Callum Jackson
Because it's not even game, it's, sorry, it's not even... just getting in game of the year, like getting eight awards. That means they just hit it home on all fucking aspects, basically.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
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Callum Jackson
So hoping that a means good things to come.
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Cameron Resner
Yes, i I would hope so.
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Callum Jackson
And would you say that good things are coming from the
Lenny Kravitz as Bond Villain
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Callum Jackson
games that were shown? Mm-hmm.
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Cameron Resner
I would, yes. Apart from... Well, we'll start with the most important announcement that Lenny Kravitz is the new Bond villain.
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Callum Jackson
Who is that?
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Cameron Resner
Who is that?
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Callum Jackson
Who is that?
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Cameron Resner
um
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, sorry, because I saw him.
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Cameron Resner
Look him up.
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Callum Jackson
Okay, yeah.
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Cameron Resner
he's like ah He's a singer. He's quite a famous singer. He does...
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Callum Jackson
I heard that he was, but...
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Cameron Resner
What has he sung?
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Callum Jackson
I'm looking at him now.
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Cameron Resner
He's the father of...
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Callum Jackson
Oh.
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Cameron Resner
Catwoman in Batman.
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Callum Jackson
Fuck, is he in... Is he, um... is he Is he in the Hunger Games? What character?
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Cameron Resner
Yes, he is. Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
Yes. Oh, fuck. He's the designer, right? the
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, yeah. maybe a bit
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Callum Jackson
I forgot his name, but... Yeah. Yeah, the I know who he Yes, yes. Oh, okay.
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Cameron Resner
Interesting, yes.
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Callum Jackson
That's cool. Yeah.
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Cameron Resner
I didn't expect that, but he seems seems quite cool from the trailer, but we shall see. Very bad.
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Callum Jackson
I didn't actually watch the new trailer. Was that yesterday's trailer?
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, it just showed mostly old stuff and then just him coming out of the shadows. Like, yeah, boy. Yeah. man
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Callum Jackson
did he not Was he not dressed in makeup like Hunger Games?
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Cameron Resner
No, definitely not.
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Callum Jackson
Oh, okay.
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Cameron Resner
shut out Just looking what famous songs he does.
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Callum Jackson
That's disappointment.
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Cameron Resner
is He's a big boy, but oh are you going to go my way? Hmm.
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Callum Jackson
Sinner. I had to look it up. His name's Sinner in Hunger Games.
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Cameron Resner
ah sin a yes
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Callum Jackson
Yeah.
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Cameron Resner
Well, yeah, that the biggest news. um
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Callum Jackson
Yep.
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Cameron Resner
We'll go down the smaller news now. We'll start from the beginning.
Skepticism in Star Wars Game Announcements
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Callum Jackson
Oh, yeah.
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Cameron Resner
Star Wars Fate of the Old Republic.
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Callum Jackson
Was that the first thing they showed?
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Cameron Resner
I think so, yeah. I think I've got a list in order.
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Callum Jackson
God.
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Callum Jackson
um
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Cameron Resner
Directed by the people, the guy from Bioware who did the originals.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah. And Mass Effect, right?
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Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
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Callum Jackson
m
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Cameron Resner
Yes.
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Callum Jackson
Now, I would be really excited, but there's been two Star Wars games in the past 10 years that have shown barely anything in their trailers, and then just not here.
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Cameron Resner
The KOTOR remake, one of them.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, yeah, and um Star Wars Eclipse. we I think that was seven years ago, that trailer.
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Cameron Resner
Yes. Yeah. Total Eclipse of the Heart.
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Callum Jackson
And nothing I think that high or that yeah the High Republic, the new one, the one that Acolyte's about, which after Acolyte, I feel like they probably have just quietly cancelled that and still not telling anyone, but...
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
um I don't actually I think the High Republic would be a good like time to set in like a game or a show or a film but when you start it with a you know like because most people watch stuff so the fact because I have the first book I only got halfway it's not like it I know a lot about it but they did keep making novels on it and I feel like it's quite liked by people that Actually, I've read them.
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Callum Jackson
So, yeah, it's just a shame that the acolyte kicked it off on a...
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, myself.
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Cameron Resner
on a sour note.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, little bit.
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Cameron Resner
But who knows? I don't think this had a date on it.
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Callum Jackson
No, that's what the fear is. And it didn't even really show anything. So, um yeah, ah ah we'll either see it in 7 to 10 years or it'll be cancelled.
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Cameron Resner
I think we will see it, but it'll be a very long time.
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Callum Jackson
yeah Yeah, this one, maybe third time's the charm, and we will actually see this one.
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Cameron Resner
I just feel like there's got to be a point where they someone at Disney is like sort this out like what are you doing like please isn't that Ray film cancelled God
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Callum Jackson
It seems like... What studio was making it?
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Callum Jackson
You would hope so, wouldn't you? With the um franchise that is Star Wars. but um Yeah, it doesn't feel like it's going anywhere. Even their next film, Mandalorian and Grogu, I'm like, okay, who cares about this?
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Callum Jackson
weird place I don't know how Star Wars got there but it is um the other one linking on Star Wars was the uh yeah that that looks like a bit of fun because I liked the pod
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Cameron Resner
yeah
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Cameron Resner
The Galactic Racer.
Galactic Racer Excitement
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Callum Jackson
racing games um the Star Wars racer games so yeah that but again that'll be because I'm not too deep into races I'll play that for like an hour or two and probably put it down
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, no, that looks cool. I like the noise of it.
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Cameron Resner
They call it an action game, they' not a racer.
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Callum Jackson
Oh, interesting. So it might...
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Cameron Resner
On like the news stuff.
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Callum Jackson
help Well, pod racing does have a bit of aggression to it, so
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Cameron Resner
So... Yeah. I wonder if you'll have more of a, <unk> i don't know, like a story or something, like something you're actually doing.
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Callum Jackson
I reckon it will be good.
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Cameron Resner
It's not just racing people.
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Callum Jackson
um And it'll probably be like that Star Wars Squadrons game that came out, you know, a lower budget.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
um not that Not that that reflects the game at all, but like Star Wars Squadrons, I think it was ยฃ35 on release.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
I'm not expecting that anymore, but probably like ยฃ50. And then it's just like pretty much a racer with like, obviously you said action. So some action elements in it, I could imagine.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yes. What's the guy? What's the guy called? Who's the the enemy?
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Callum Jackson
Dominic Terrell.
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Cameron Resner
No. The enemy of Sebulba, yeah.
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Callum Jackson
Sebulba.
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Cameron Resner
He appears at the end of the trailer, doesn't he?
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Callum Jackson
I did see that, but, and it also, he had like a beard and shit, so he lived, I guess.
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Cameron Resner
Older. um
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Callum Jackson
Somehow Sebulba returned.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, because these games are all in canon, so...
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Callum Jackson
Yes, and all the comic books and all the the books that they write, that they're all canon.
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Cameron Resner
Everything. No.
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Callum Jackson
They don't retcon it at all.
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Cameron Resner
No.
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Callum Jackson
They never change anything.
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Cameron Resner
so bulb Maybe this is alternate universe where Sebulba won.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, Anakin's dead. And the galaxy's just turned...
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Cameron Resner
Anakin's head and the galaxy's fine.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, it's all good.
00:09:07
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it's all good.
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Callum Jackson
And it's just turned into a big racing ah universe.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah. Max.
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Callum Jackson
Galaxy.
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Cameron Resner
Far, far a max away. um
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Callum Jackson
yeah Yeah.
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Cameron Resner
But yeah, looking forward to that. I think that'd be quite cool. Different.
00:09:22
Callum Jackson
Sorry, was there... I said a minute ago, but was there a studio that was making these games? Or...
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Cameron Resner
It's called Fuse Games.
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Callum Jackson
What, for both of them?
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Cameron Resner
Um, no, just this one.
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Callum Jackson
Oh, okay.
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Cameron Resner
I think they're all outside of EA.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah.
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Cameron Resner
Good. Like more stuff getting out of there.
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Callum Jackson
I want them outside of EA and Ubisoft. I want it far away from both companies.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah. I was trying to think of where, where Fuse Games, what they've made. Um, I don't know where that name rings a bell, but maybe they're on you.
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Cameron Resner
Um,
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Callum Jackson
Fuse was a game.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, no it's not Fuse. I think they are a new studio.
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Callum Jackson
But...
Fuse Games' Star Wars Ventures
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, I think both of them look quite good, though.
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Cameron Resner
And I think the, yeah, I think the Fate of the Old Republic is a new studio as well. So.
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Callum Jackson
that So they're probably going to be good.
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Cameron Resner
m Yeah.
00:10:10
Callum Jackson
Yeah. You can't fuck up Star Wars anymore, I mean.
00:10:13
Cameron Resner
Yeah, yeah. So, no.
00:10:16
Callum Jackson
You're not on the allowed to, I'm afraid. Everyone's spent their fuck-ups. It's time to make something good with the brand that is Star Wars. Like, for real. For real, for real.
00:10:26
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:10:27
Callum Jackson
but No, seriously, like but they need to make something good.
00:10:31
Callum Jackson
Because I saw it this one, up it popped up, the the um is it Fate of the Old Republic?
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Cameron Resner
Yeah, I know.
00:10:36
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah, that, it popped up and I was like, oh, finally, like a ah new actual, like something completely new in Star Wars.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
And then I watched it and it was just like nothing again. It was like the Star Wars Eclipse trailer or the Knights of the Old Republic one.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
And i was just like, oh, okay. And then I just completely was uninterested because I was like, this is literally bare minimum. This is like concept.
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Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
Like you guys have sat in a room and gone, I have an idea. Should we try it
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Cameron Resner
That's AI a trailer together.
00:11:08
Callum Jackson
Yeah, but um if it's like x by i like all these indie developers like the Embark Studios and I don't know their name but the ones that made Claire Obscure they have come from bigger companies and have shown it shown them the bigger companies is how it's done And I'm just hoping, you know, this guy, or who was it?
00:11:25
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:11:28
Callum Jackson
that it Was it a woman or a man? who Who's doing this game? The one from Bioware?
00:11:33
Cameron Resner
Man. Yeah.
00:11:34
Callum Jackson
Okay. Yeah, I don't know his name, but the fact that he'd done the original ones, the ones that people love, and he'd done Mass Effect, I'm like, this could be really good.
00:11:36
Cameron Resner
Casey Johnson.
00:11:45
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
So...
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Cameron Resner
It's just one.
00:11:46
Callum Jackson
Hmm.
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Cameron Resner
Because he was, yeah, I think he went back to work on Mass Effect again and then left again.
00:11:53
Callum Jackson
Oh, what, Mass Effect 4?
00:11:54
Cameron Resner
Yeah, or or Dragon and Age, one of them.
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Callum Jackson
Yeah.
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Cameron Resner
So it's just a wild
00:11:57
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
EA's Star Wars Exclusivity Critique
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Cameron Resner
that they just can sort their shit out and just be like, okay, you can make this.
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Cameron Resner
There.
00:12:02
Callum Jackson
yeah Yeah, literally. like And it's EA as well, when they had the license.
00:12:05
Cameron Resner
Yeah. they they Yeah. They did the original games.
00:12:08
Callum Jackson
That's what... These fucking companies, are just they're just actually blind.
00:12:09
Cameron Resner
It's wild.
00:12:12
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Good they've made it out of that. They're grasps.
00:12:17
Callum Jackson
Yep.
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Cameron Resner
Maybe actually make something that they want to make.
00:12:19
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I'm glad stuff like that, you know, like Star Wars is a bit more open now. It shouldn't have been exclusive to EA in the first place.
00:12:26
Cameron Resner
No, I mean, what did we get?
00:12:26
Callum Jackson
um
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Cameron Resner
Three games in that 10 years?
00:12:28
Callum Jackson
ah Yeah, in that time, yeah, we got three games and then obviously they made Jedi Survivor 2, or Jedi Survivor, but that that was when it was open at that point.
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Cameron Resner
Four?
00:12:35
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
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Callum Jackson
so But like Star Wars shouldn't have been limited to a company, especially not one like EA.
00:12:42
Cameron Resner
No, definitely not.
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Callum Jackson
Like, come on. Yeah.
00:12:45
Cameron Resner
Should be like, just like, everyone bring us your best ideas.
00:12:48
Callum Jackson
Yeah, and then they should have chosen.
00:12:48
Cameron Resner
We'll do it.
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Callum Jackson
But again, this was when Disney didn't know what the fuck they were doing with games either. And they were like, oh, just give it to a company that pays us the most. That we think will earn us the most money.
00:12:58
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:13:00
Callum Jackson
You can tell that was what they've done. But yeah. um Am I excited... Yeah, a little bit. ah But I don't care as much for Star Wars as I once did.
00:13:11
Callum Jackson
So yeah if it comes through and it's great, i'll I'll love it because it is Star Wars. But I haven't had much hope for Star Wars in some time.
00:13:17
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:13:19
Callum Jackson
So we shall see.
00:13:20
Cameron Resner
That's very fair. We shall stay in a time far, far away.
00:13:22
Callum Jackson
shall see if it will itll be good and re-spark. Yeah.
00:13:26
Cameron Resner
and Maybe in this galaxy.
00:13:27
Callum Jackson
Anything else you wish to...
00:13:29
Cameron Resner
Nothing on those ones, but I've lost...
00:13:29
Callum Jackson
I mean, there's loads to talk about.
00:13:32
Callum Jackson
But there's... Yeah. I mean, yeah, there's loads to... what What do you think about it, though, before we carry on?
00:13:36
Cameron Resner
ah Yeah, hi i'm I'm keen to try. I've always wanted to try KOTOR and KOTOR 2, but they're just old and clunky. So i think, and given that I enjoyed like Baldur's Gate a couple of years ago and I think this could be up my alley when it comes out.
00:13:53
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:13:57
Cameron Resner
Maybe when I'm 40. I'm for something a bit slower.
00:14:02
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:14:03
Cameron Resner
I can't play COD anymore or a Battlefield because my fingers are fucked.
00:14:06
Callum Jackson
um
00:14:06
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:14:08
Callum Jackson
I feel that now.
00:14:09
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:14:09
Callum Jackson
Like, um I forget game controls when I switch games, or I'm pressing the button for a different game.
00:14:17
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:14:17
Callum Jackson
Can't believe it happened. I mocked my father for that, but...
00:14:21
Cameron Resner
je One day you'll lose your hands.
00:14:25
Callum Jackson
Right.
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Cameron Resner
um
00:14:26
Callum Jackson
Right. So, any Well, obviously there's more, but which...
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Cameron Resner
The next one I add was control.
00:14:35
Callum Jackson
Oh, yeah.
00:14:35
Cameron Resner
president
00:14:36
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
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Cameron Resner
Which looks quite beefy.
00:14:38
Callum Jackson
That looks fucking good. I was... ah and When I saw it, I was like, okay, cool. Sequel. um' That was the first trailer I actually watched from like looking at the announcements.
00:14:49
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:14:51
Callum Jackson
And I was... i like those action games anyway, but...
00:14:57
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:14:57
Callum Jackson
Oh, fuck me. When it turned into that instead of shooting again, I was like, oh, yeah. It was like the fucking devil may cry in control.
00:15:03
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah. No, it was...
00:15:03
Callum Jackson
i was Yeah, i was like, it it looked smooth as well. Like, it looked just right.
00:15:07
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:15:08
Callum Jackson
It wasn't another fucking Souls-like game. It was more Devil May Cry vibes. And I love Devil May Cry.
00:15:14
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:15:15
Callum Jackson
And I was just like, this is... That's gonna fucking hit a spot for sure.
00:15:20
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, I think... I played half of the first one, but I think it wasn't running well when I was playing it or something.
00:15:29
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:15:29
Cameron Resner
I can't remember. um But I know it's better now.
00:15:30
Callum Jackson
See... the
00:15:32
Cameron Resner
But and but this one intrigues me more because of that combat.
00:15:33
Callum Jackson
yeah, yeah, it's good now. But...
00:15:40
Cameron Resner
I liked when I saw it I was like, hmm.
00:15:42
Callum Jackson
It was kind...
00:15:43
Cameron Resner
I don't know if I would have necessarily got it if it was just the shooting again, even though that was cool. But...
00:15:49
Callum Jackson
Yeah, no, I agree. I actually agree because there was like a thing in the first game where you're shooting, you have different guns and then sort of like force powers.
00:15:57
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:15:59
Callum Jackson
But the force powers were the parts that were really cool.
00:16:02
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:16:02
Callum Jackson
So the fact that it's fighting and hopefully, you know, some more of those powers going on would be even cooler.
00:16:07
Cameron Resner
Another Star Wars game.
00:16:08
Callum Jackson
Yeah. But um I remember the the first control was the thing that sold me on getting Epic so I could play it. And it was also ray tracing.
00:16:20
Cameron Resner
Yes.
00:16:20
Callum Jackson
It was like the first sort of, not the first game, but the first one that I went, oh shit, ray tracing. So I tried it on there and then our PCs are not stronger, but... um then I remember years later it was on like PS Plus or something so I was like oh fuck it I'll play it again um performance mode but I didn't like finish it on PC but I did go back and get the Platinum and play all the DLCs so yeah I really like Control
00:16:45
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Seemed like her and another addition to the Alan Wake universe.
00:16:52
Callum Jackson
yeah I like that they're doing that as well it's all just a bit fucked over there I still need to play Alan Wake 2 fully
00:16:54
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:00
Cameron Resner
i
00:17:00
Callum Jackson
but I've been meaning to get around to that. But yeah, ah when the time comes, I will be finishing it.
00:17:08
Cameron Resner
Yes, marvelous. I don't know when, I don't think that was a release date on that.
00:17:09
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Very looking forward to that.
00:17:12
Cameron Resner
I think it was.
00:17:12
Callum Jackson
No, I don't think so, but it should be like next year with how it looked. And ah yeah, I'm, I'm really looking forward to it.
00:17:17
Cameron Resner
Yes.
00:17:19
Callum Jackson
Probably out of everything I saw or heard of, that's one. I think it's because it was a surprise as well.
00:17:25
Callum Jackson
They changed up everything about the first game, but it's just in the same universe. It's,
00:17:25
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:17:30
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:17:30
Callum Jackson
Very cool idea. That's pretty much what a sequel should be. Yeah,
00:17:35
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Agreed.
00:17:37
Callum Jackson
yeah and yeah they they surprised me with that, and i was like, oh, cool. that's That's made me more interested because it's not just me floating around and throwing things again.
00:17:46
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:17:46
Callum Jackson
So, yeah.
00:17:47
Cameron Resner
It's a different experience, which is very...
00:17:48
Callum Jackson
Yeah, so very, very, very looking forward to it.
00:17:49
Cameron Resner
good
00:17:50
Callum Jackson
But maybe that's why they didn't call it straight up like Control 2, you know?
00:17:54
Cameron Resner
Yeah. It's a different...
00:17:55
Callum Jackson
So, yeah. But, yeah, well done on that.
00:17:56
Cameron Resner
It's
00:17:57
Callum Jackson
It looks very intriguing.
00:17:58
Cameron Resner
Well done, show.
00:17:59
Callum Jackson
Very much looking forward to that.
00:18:00
Cameron Resner
um the other one The other game that I actually just watched a trailer for beforehand but I didn't actually watch until then was a game called No Law. Did you see this?
00:18:10
Callum Jackson
Oh, no, what was... I've i've heard...
00:18:12
Cameron Resner
Have quick look. So you remember that game, The Ascent, where we tried to play it and it was like that cut?
00:18:17
Callum Jackson
Yes, yeah, yeah, it was that one, yeah.
00:18:19
Cameron Resner
So these people have made it. But it's like a first-person shooter, like RPG. And it's like you could Far Cry.
00:18:26
Callum Jackson
Oh, and it looks sort of cyberpunk-ish.
00:18:29
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it's like Cyberpunk and Far Cry.
00:18:29
Callum Jackson
Yes, I did see that, but yeah.
00:18:32
Cameron Resner
um The trailer looks pretty cool. i'm I like the look of this, am especially from that team, because I remember the Ascent just being okay.
00:18:44
Cameron Resner
I mean, we didn't play much of it but it was...
00:18:45
Callum Jackson
No, we didn't. But maybe that is something that I would go back to now.
00:18:46
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:18:49
Callum Jackson
I think it might have just been the timing. But after my love of Cyberpunk, I think I could... Yeah.
00:18:57
Cameron Resner
Yeah, you could give a But yeah, go watch the trailer for that because it looks quite cool.
00:18:58
Callum Jackson
Yeah, good. Yeah.
00:19:02
Callum Jackson
I will. I think I... Because I went through them all earlier. I think I was skimming them and that's when I skimmed. I remember like him kicking someone or something.
00:19:08
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:19:09
Callum Jackson
But... Yeah. um Yeah, I will give that. I'm going to put that on my list now to watch.
00:19:17
Cameron Resner
And what was the next game on your, um what did what else did you watch?
Anticipation for Lords of the Fallen 2
00:19:22
Callum Jackson
all well
00:19:23
Cameron Resner
Mega Man, Jewel Override.
00:19:25
Callum Jackson
no um our most anticipated game that we'll be getting next year that me and you are going to play through like we did the first Lords of the Fallen 2
00:19:36
Cameron Resner
Oh, yes. What, the two point the update trailer?
00:19:39
Callum Jackson
no Lords of the Fallen 2 there's a sequel yes like did you not see it
00:19:40
Cameron Resner
Oh. Oh, did they show it to Oh. No, I didn't.
00:19:45
Callum Jackson
oh Oh, you might like the look of it then.
00:19:45
Cameron Resner
No. It's not even on my list, I think.
00:19:47
Callum Jackson
It looks like they've upgraded. Do you know like, so every other game, here's something, I know it sounds so little, but so every other Souls game kind of things that copy it.
00:19:56
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:19:57
Callum Jackson
These guys look like with this one, they've taken everything they learn and it looks like they've gone, ah should we just take it in a little bit of a different direction because everything's like a Souls game.
00:20:07
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:20:07
Callum Jackson
And this little edition has changed it up for me and it's there's dismemberment.
00:20:15
Cameron Resner
Oh, nice.
00:20:15
Callum Jackson
Like, on the bosses. Like, you can take off their limbs as you're fighting them.
00:20:19
Cameron Resner
That's your phone. Very nice.
00:20:21
Callum Jackson
And I saw, like, there was a bit where he was just using his fucking fists. And there's a bit at the end where you have a chain and you're wrapping it around the boss's head.
00:20:25
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:20:29
Callum Jackson
And you're just like, it'sli it's like God of War shit. And you're, like, fucking tightening this chain to pull off their head. It's fucking...
00:20:35
Cameron Resner
nice and pop.
00:20:36
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it did it did look quite cool. But, I mean, i have actually wanted to... play a little bit more of the first one. It's not something I'm going to rush to the store to get Lords of the Fallen 2 unless I see more of it.
00:20:45
Cameron Resner
No.
00:20:47
Callum Jackson
But at the moment, I was i was intrigued. that I was like, oh, the selling point here is kind of dismemberment. So having that sort of newish feature to a soul... Because I don't... Are souls like that? No, they're not.
00:21:00
Callum Jackson
You don't like this take off their body part.
00:21:00
Cameron Resner
No, yeah.
00:21:00
Cameron Resner
i know
00:21:02
Callum Jackson
I mean, there might be bosses that you start...
00:21:03
Cameron Resner
In the first Noxols, you can take off their tails, but it's not like it's just kind of pops off. It doesn't.
00:21:10
Callum Jackson
Yeah, well I reckon this, I don't know, this is just me ah making assumptions here, but um I feel like this is going to be targeting different limbs, and I reckon like they will get weaker over time as the boss fight goes on, and you know if you're just aiming for the head, you could probably, yeah.
00:21:23
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm. Doing certain and things.
00:21:27
Callum Jackson
So I feel like that will be what they're doing, but it it looked cool enough, but Again, we didn't really even try to go back to the first one, so it's not a game that I'm like, oh, I need to rush to the store. But it it was interesting enough to mention.
00:21:42
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I'll have a look at that. I'll have a look at the trailer after this. because That is intriguing. Because, yeah, I think they are probably one of the the best of the Dark Souls
00:21:57
Cameron Resner
genre outside of Luxembourg.
00:21:58
Callum Jackson
Copycats.
00:22:00
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:22:00
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:22:01
Cameron Resner
It's not really copycats anymore. It's just a new way of gear.
00:22:03
Callum Jackson
It is just a genre.
00:22:05
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I agree.
00:22:05
Cameron Resner
A new way doing game.
00:22:07
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:22:07
Callum Jackson
Oh, sorry, before we go on, but while we're talking about Souls-like games, I think I know what pisses me off about them. And someone commented this, I think, on...
00:22:20
Callum Jackson
on maybe this video, that's what saw it, and then I was like, oh, because I play the Jedi games and I love them, and I even think Sekiro's the better one of the Souls games.
00:22:27
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:22:32
Cameron Resner
Okay. Yeah.
00:22:32
Callum Jackson
um
00:22:32
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:22:34
Callum Jackson
And I think it's the the combat itself and how fast you can react.
00:22:39
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:22:39
Callum Jackson
So with like, what is it? um You know, I haven't played Bloodborne, so I think I might actually like that one as well. But with like ah Dark Souls and Elden Ring, I feel like it's this guy, this guy like hit the noun head and went, that's probably it.
00:22:51
Cameron Resner
Yep. Mm-hmm.
00:22:55
Callum Jackson
He's like, you're fighting these fucking mammoth enemies. They all look great. Everything's cool. But you move like a fucking slug. And i know I know that you can change that so you can have like different approaches.
00:23:07
Callum Jackson
But I feel like your stamina and how you move in these games and it's all slow and heavy doesn't compute with my brain when the when the ah pretty much every enemy throws a thousand punches at me in a second.
00:23:22
Callum Jackson
And they're just as geared up.
00:23:24
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:23:25
Callum Jackson
Because like when you play Jedi, I'm like, I'm a fucking Jedi and you're moving quick, you know? And then Sekiro is the same.
00:23:30
Cameron Resner
yeah I think that yeah i think the the yeah the thing they do is they you kind of there's no like cancelling or quitting an attack really like once you attack you're in it so it's like yeah it's quite it's different to yeah like a Jedi survivor or Sekiro where you're just like so fast it doesn't matter
00:23:30
Callum Jackson
So, yeah.
00:23:42
Callum Jackson
Yes. Yeah.
00:23:55
Callum Jackson
Yeah, and I think I like the... was it? Counter and parrying and stuff? ah that That gameplay where you're tapping like on beat with someone.
00:23:59
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:24:04
Callum Jackson
works so much better for my head than just dodge rolling or blocking. that like that That feature of getting in the rhythm of parrying is really satisfying to me.
00:24:10
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:24:15
Callum Jackson
like When it just hits it this goes...
00:24:16
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:24:17
Callum Jackson
like It's on every game that does it. when you like Especially the lightsabers feel good, but like every hit and it's just bouncing back is really good. Yeah. Yeah, but I think that might be it. That might be why I'm like, fuck this game, and I always just drop them, and I'm like, I don't want to do this anymore. anymore That and the running back and forth every time you die and you have to do a whole mission.
00:24:39
Cameron Resner
Yeah, nice.
00:24:39
Callum Jackson
I know Elden Ring's different for that, but I'm talking about the other one.
00:24:43
Cameron Resner
I
00:24:43
Callum Jackson
Right, now, that's out the way. Now that I've figured out my...
00:24:47
Cameron Resner
figured out your hatred.
00:24:48
Callum Jackson
My hatred for those... No, I don't hate them. I just... I don't... They don't click with my brain. But yes, let us move on. There is another game, sorry, that i that I actually did have.
00:24:58
Cameron Resner
Yeah, go on.
00:24:59
Callum Jackson
And like...
Introducing Exodus Game
00:25:00
Callum Jackson
Did you see a game called Exodus?
00:25:00
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:25:04
Cameron Resner
No, I didn't either. No.
00:25:05
Callum Jackson
Right, it's like what the IGN headline for it was, if Indiana Jones was mixed with Interstellar.
00:25:05
Cameron Resner
It's not even on my list either. No.
00:25:12
Callum Jackson
And i was like, okay, what the fuck are talking about? And no, it was. It did seem a very much like saving humanity vibes, but also the adventure was there. I think i don't think it i can't actually say it is, but like ex-developers, I don't think it is, but it's definitely Mass Effect vibes.
00:25:31
Callum Jackson
And Matthew McConaughey did voice is voicing someone in the game.
00:25:35
Cameron Resner
really? Okay.
00:25:35
Callum Jackson
Yeah. So when he started speaking in the trailer, was like, is that why you said Interstellar?
00:25:37
Cameron Resner
That's pretty cool.
00:25:39
Callum Jackson
But um yeah, no, that did look good. It looks very Mass Effect-y and I'm hoping it is. I don't know it much about it other than the trailer, but the trailer looked pretty cool. It was very much...
00:25:50
Cameron Resner
It is by, yeah, Bioware developers.
00:25:51
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:25:53
Callum Jackson
Oh, it was... well Okay. So everyone's left Bioware and gone, let's just make Mass Effect.
00:25:53
Cameron Resner
So, yeah.
00:25:56
Cameron Resner
Everyone's there, yeah.
00:26:00
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:26:01
Callum Jackson
Cool. I like that.
00:26:03
Cameron Resner
I don't think that new Mass Effect game's coming out.
00:26:06
Callum Jackson
but liara was in the trailer i don't know at this point i don't actually no don't know at this point leave it as the trilogy do you know what i could do with yeah i liked andromeda i was probably one of the minority but i i i didn't mind it can i tell you anything that happened in it like nine years after it came out no
00:26:09
Cameron Resner
But do you want it? Do you want them to butcher it? I was going to say,
00:26:16
Cameron Resner
do you want Did you like the fourth one?
00:26:20
Cameron Resner
Okay. Yeah.
00:26:28
Cameron Resner
But do you want them to do that? Do you want an Andromeda? Do you you want them to do that same kind of game or the same level of quality with people that were in like the first three games?
00:26:40
Callum Jackson
Do you know what you've you've made? You're making a good point. I think, and I also, I'm just holding on to the nostalgia.
00:26:43
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:26:46
Callum Jackson
If you're not going to, because the last good Bioware game was probably Mass Effect 3 and even that people have problems with. So that was 2012, 2013, 2012, I think.
00:26:53
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:57
Callum Jackson
So that's a long time ago now. um So, yeah, no, I'm happy for these new... i'm I'm happy for these new studios. Like, I want to play these games. I think it's just the fact of, you know, it's kind of it's the same when The Force Awakens came out. was like, oh, Han Solo's back, Luke Skywalker, Leia.
00:27:16
Callum Jackson
It's that sort of thing. It's like, oh, but like, in the trailer, I know nothing about Mass Effect 4, except Liara was there.
00:27:17
Cameron Resner
see let me okay
00:27:20
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:27:21
Callum Jackson
And i was like, oh, Liara, that was my space girlfriend. So that was... the reason why I was like, I'm coming back. But yeah, i no. If they, again, probably because I am this kind of person and I like the games that i did play, like the stories that we've had over the, you know, since our childhoods of playing games, just remake them, but very faithfully, I think.
00:27:48
Callum Jackson
And you can't go wrong. i would I would settle for a Metal Gear Delta version of the Mass Effect trilogy.
00:27:55
Cameron Resner
yeah I feel like they should just do something like that.
00:27:57
Callum Jackson
Because you don't need to change. They're timeless. They honestly are. Just don't ah just don't change them.
00:28:02
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:03
Callum Jackson
just Just update the graphics.
00:28:03
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:28:05
Callum Jackson
Tweak the gameplay. Ship it out. And to be honest, I'm happy with the Legendary Edition.
00:28:11
Cameron Resner
If you're not going to.
00:28:12
Callum Jackson
Yeah, they're they're more than fun. I don't really need these remakes. I just like them. that's That's where I stand on them.
00:28:19
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:28:19
Callum Jackson
um I'm happy with ports as well now at this point.
00:28:19
Cameron Resner
if you're not gonna
00:28:22
Callum Jackson
Like like I said, i think it was last week that I said I just want Infamous and Killzone on a new newer hardware. Like, I don't need them to look better. play The only thing would be like 60 FPS and HD.
00:28:36
Callum Jackson
That's my only wish for these games.
00:28:38
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:28:39
Callum Jackson
That's That's as...
00:28:42
Callum Jackson
bare minimum I could ask for, to be honest, but...
00:28:45
Cameron Resner
Sometimes it's not possible.
00:28:46
Callum Jackson
Yeah. No, it's not, clearly.
00:28:49
Cameron Resner
Apparently.
00:28:51
Callum Jackson
But yeah, so, very much looking forward to that.
00:28:51
Cameron Resner
was talking of remakes. The Tomb Raider Legend of Legacy of Atlantis.
00:28:58
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that's an actual, like, retelling?
00:29:00
Cameron Resner
which is the second remake.
Tomb Raider's New Chapter
00:29:04
Cameron Resner
Well, I mean, you've got Tomb Raider Anniversary, which is also a retelling and a remake.
00:29:06
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:29:09
Callum Jackson
Oh, is it?
00:29:09
Cameron Resner
And then you...
00:29:09
Callum Jackson
Oh, yes, it is, isn't it?
00:29:11
Callum Jackson
that What, the... Yes. Yeah, yeah.
00:29:11
Cameron Resner
Yeah, because you have Tomb Raider Legend that came out, and then Anniversary came out, and it continued the story of Legend, but with the first game.
00:29:18
Cameron Resner
And then...
00:29:19
Callum Jackson
Oh, yeah.
00:29:20
Cameron Resner
And then now this.
00:29:20
Callum Jackson
I didn't even clock onto that. Do you know? like I didn't even register, but yeah, yeah.
00:29:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:29:25
Callum Jackson
And then this, yeah.
00:29:26
Cameron Resner
Then this is the third. When I saw this trailer first and I was like, was like, is that? Because there was bit of rumors for a Tomb Raider game for a long time.
00:29:34
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:29:35
Cameron Resner
I'm glad they showed the second one, the second thing. But I was like, guys, come on.
00:29:38
Callum Jackson
Yes. Yeah, me too. No, yeah, when I saw it, because I saw that first and I was like, oh, this was all what the hype was about. And I thought maybe they would have used this as like a new stepping point, which clearly it does look like.
00:29:51
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I think they are, yeah.
00:29:52
Callum Jackson
But I did, when I saw it was like a retelling, i was like, fuck me. didn Come on, you've just released like the HD collection too. Or, you know, yeah, crazy.
00:30:02
Cameron Resner
It does look cool though. I think it's got like a bit of Max Payne-y kind of jumping bullet time kind of thing, which is interesting.
00:30:10
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it it reminded me more of the Legends ones, like Legends Anniversary and Underworld, but obviously very much new.
00:30:17
Cameron Resner
Oh yeah, yeah. Definitely. But it's... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it kind of was it's kind of like a mix of both of like the original and the Legend one. because it's kind of She was like as athletic, as which is cool.
00:30:26
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:30:30
Cameron Resner
I think the most recent triy of trilogy of Tomb Raider games were cool, but they didn't they didn't have that kind of like, you're a crazy athlete kind of flipping around and
00:30:43
Callum Jackson
They didn't, they chased Uncharted.
00:30:46
Cameron Resner
Yeah, which is cool. they like I like the games.
00:30:47
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:30:49
Cameron Resner
They're very cool But it was just like, okay, now I'm ready to go back to a more traditional.
00:30:54
Callum Jackson
No, I agree. It's like perfect timing, isn't it? It's kind of... do you know like how Batman and Robin was shit on? But you enjoyed it as a kid, and then you grow up and you're like, no, they were shit. And then you grow up some more and you go, no, they're a bit of fun.
00:31:07
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:31:07
Callum Jackson
It's that. It's like 2013, you're like, oh yeah, dark, gritty Lara.
00:31:08
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:31:11
Callum Jackson
That's pretty cool, because it also made it a bit different from Uncharted and the original Lara Cross. And then the new one you're like, cause it's been like 2013, that first one came out. So now you're like, Oh man, I wish she was doing front flips again.
00:31:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:31:27
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:31:27
Callum Jackson
And now she is.
00:31:28
Cameron Resner
Now she's back. And I think there's a, I think the, because Amazon are doing a film or a series and I think that's actually linked to the game because Amazon's making these games.
00:31:29
Callum Jackson
yeah
00:31:38
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I was under the impression, is it Sophie Turner that's going play her?
00:31:41
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:42
Callum Jackson
I was under the impression the games were going to use her face model, which I'm glad they're not.
00:31:46
Cameron Resner
Yeah, thought they would. But, uh,
00:31:47
Callum Jackson
But I thought they would. But I'm glad they're not. so
00:31:50
Cameron Resner
But i think it is ah I think it is supposed to be like it all in one, which is interesting.
00:31:54
Callum Jackson
Shared universe.
00:31:57
Cameron Resner
Especially if we get, yeah, this new one in 2020, or the remake in 2026, the new one in 2027, and then you get a TV show alongside that, think that's quite cool.
00:32:05
Callum Jackson
Yeah, did you?
00:32:06
Cameron Resner
And again, if they take that TV show back to more, because I really like the first two Raider movies. I think they're pretty cool. I like going back to, yeah.
00:32:13
Callum Jackson
with Angelina Jolie.
00:32:15
Cameron Resner
They're like so stupid, but they they're just fun to watch, I think.
00:32:19
Callum Jackson
I can't actually comment much. The second one has actually left my brain, but is the first one with the...
00:32:25
Cameron Resner
Yeah, the second one. It's got Daniel Craig in it.
00:32:27
Callum Jackson
She's practicing... Yes, that she's practicing with a robot.
00:32:31
Cameron Resner
Yes, at the beginning, yeah.
00:32:32
Callum Jackson
The weird droide car. I should watch these again. The second one, she punches a shark.
00:32:37
Cameron Resner
Yeah, she does.
00:32:37
Callum Jackson
Okay, cool. Yeah.
00:32:38
Cameron Resner
She's punched her.
00:32:39
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:40
Cameron Resner
um But yeah, I'm hoping the series kind of leans, because we got that film, the last film, which was basically just the 2013 Tomb Raider game, right?
00:32:50
Callum Jackson
Oh, yeah, it was, wasn't it?
00:32:51
Cameron Resner
And it was like the same conspiracies, yeah, all that kind of stuff.
00:32:54
Callum Jackson
That wasn't too bad of a film either, though.
00:32:55
Cameron Resner
Oh, I like it. I like it.
00:32:57
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that I remember that coming. It's probably better than the Uncharted one.
00:33:00
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:33:02
Callum Jackson
um Yeah, but yeah, no, that wasn't actually a bad film, but they didn't carry that on. But ah I think also what I liked in the the Catalyst trailer, so that the one that is a fresh new game, um what I liked is that you could hear the woman, I think it was the villain of the game.
00:33:02
Cameron Resner
Yes, I would think so.
00:33:07
Cameron Resner
No. No.
00:33:19
Callum Jackson
And she was like, oh you've there's so many legends of you that you've been to like the dragons triangle and atlantis and i was like oh so the 2013 game is like loosely in this world because yeah which i i do like i feel like james bond did a bit of that
00:33:24
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:33:31
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it sounds like they're combining like all of them.
00:33:36
Cameron Resner
That was always kind of a prequel though, wasn't it? Like those three games.
00:33:38
Callum Jackson
Yeah, but I mean, like it's cool to know that is is she's like a legend, is what I'm getting at.
00:33:41
Cameron Resner
Yeah, that's still kind of... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:44
Callum Jackson
It's like, ooh, I heard this woman went to the Dragon's Trap. I'm like, oh, so you are just...
00:33:47
Cameron Resner
No.
00:33:48
Callum Jackson
it's It's not like you are that same person, but yeah there's so much like legend behind you.
00:33:51
Cameron Resner
Yeah,
00:33:53
Callum Jackson
It's kind of like Mad Max, where you could just change his face and it wouldn't matter.
00:33:55
Cameron Resner
yeah, yeah.
00:33:57
Callum Jackson
like the The game came out, the Mel Gibson ones, the Tom Hardy ones.
00:33:58
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:34:01
Callum Jackson
I i wouldn't care who plays Mad Max.
00:34:03
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:34:04
Callum Jackson
Just like, oh, it's this dude.
00:34:06
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I think that, yeah, that kind of speaks to the fact that they're kind of leaning into the fact that she's she's not like a newbie or a fresh, like, she's like experienced and will be doing cool shit, hopefully.
00:34:06
Callum Jackson
like Yeah, it's that kind of thing.
00:34:18
Cameron Resner
sir
Tomb Raider Shared Universe Speculation
00:34:20
Cameron Resner
Which I'm down for.
00:34:20
Callum Jackson
Yeah. And she's in the shorts and tank top again with dual pistols. So yeah, people were asking for that and she's back.
00:34:29
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:34:29
Callum Jackson
But it's needed. So yeah.
00:34:31
Cameron Resner
It is required in this day and age.
00:34:34
Callum Jackson
And with the lack of those sorts of games and Indiana Jones being in first person, I'm glad that this is happening.
00:34:41
Cameron Resner
Yeah, getting lots of different vi types of things.
00:34:42
Callum Jackson
So... one of my yeah one of my favorite kind of genres, especially in gaming, so I'm really happy it's coming, to be honest. And i never really, because the PS1 games were fucking incredibly hard, I never got anywhere in them.
00:34:57
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah. I bought the collection and I played the first two, but they are bedsled they like they're so they're like hard to control and then they're like also very confusing.
00:35:02
Callum Jackson
They're so hard. Oh.
00:35:08
Cameron Resner
So I'm like, I don't know what the fuck I'm going with.
00:35:09
Callum Jackson
Yeah. they yeah and Imagine playing notes without like the ease of our phone next to us to type in what the fuck to do.
00:35:17
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I mean, I used to play them next to my granddaddy. He had them. And I used to be, like, just trying to learn the controls. And he'd like, just go there. And I'm like, what are you talking about?
00:35:26
Callum Jackson
What fuck do you mean?
00:35:27
Cameron Resner
Because, like, just to go there, you'd have to be, like, you'd have to, like, press five buttons at a time.
00:35:28
Callum Jackson
We were different.
00:35:32
Cameron Resner
You're like, okay, cool. I've made it to this place now. Where the fuck do I go?
00:35:37
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it's how you can control her to sort of jump in a certain way, isn't it
00:35:41
Cameron Resner
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:41
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:35:42
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:35:43
Callum Jackson
Good fun.
00:35:44
Cameron Resner
but very exciting. um I think they were the main games. Did you have any others?
00:35:50
Callum Jackson
um Not really, but because I'm looking right now, um I feel like I would like to talk about this just quickly because it's on subject. um There's a game, I have no idea what the fuck it is, but it's called High Guard. I'm just looking at a list, by the way.
00:36:06
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Oh my God.
00:36:06
Callum Jackson
Hi, Soph. yeah I'm just looking at a list and um there's a game called High Guard coming out and it says a new first person shooter ah from ah the former team of Apex Legend developers and I'm like another former group from another company have gone fuck this I'm making own game.
00:36:28
Callum Jackson
Like that's happening so much.
00:36:29
Cameron Resner
yeah yeah i just saw another one as well uh coven of the chicken of the chicken foot who was and it's made by the guy who co-directed the last of us and uncharted 4 so yeah
00:36:36
Callum Jackson
The fuck is that?
00:36:40
Callum Jackson
Oh God. Okay. Yeah. I mean, like it's, that there's tons of stuff and yeah, I mean, it's just good to see, to be honest.
00:36:51
Cameron Resner
Yeah, no, it's cool seeing people.
00:36:51
Callum Jackson
Um, I'm just glad that, you know, these, cause it's always the talented ones. It seems so far the ones with the, those new fresh ideas that the studios have probably gone.
00:36:58
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:37:01
Callum Jackson
No, no, we're not making that now.
00:37:04
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:37:05
Callum Jackson
We have to make a sequel and,
00:37:06
Cameron Resner
I mean, if they can go away and like create smaller studios that make smaller games but still as good, and then that don't cost fucking billions and need to sell like but billions of copies.
00:37:14
Callum Jackson
yeah
00:37:21
Callum Jackson
yeah it's just showing like um that you can do it yeah there's ah another one that i've just jesus christ there's another one cameron there's one called gang of dragon and it's by ah the yakuza developer but it's outside of sega
00:37:24
Cameron Resner
It's like the clear obscure thing. Mm-hmm.
00:37:32
Cameron Resner
Right.
00:37:35
Cameron Resner
Right.
00:37:41
Cameron Resner
Okay.
00:37:41
Callum Jackson
So he's made a new Yakuza-type game outside of his company that have funded him for 30 years.
00:37:41
Cameron Resner
Interesting.
00:37:45
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:37:50
Cameron Resner
Yes. You know, I watched that trailer actually. Yeah. It's got like the Wong in it, isn't it? Isn't it?
00:37:55
Callum Jackson
No, he's the guy that... He's not Wong. He's he's in Eternals.
00:38:00
Cameron Resner
Oh yeah.
00:38:01
Callum Jackson
He's the big, big fucker in it.
00:38:01
Cameron Resner
Yeah. That's yeah.
00:38:03
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it yeah he's in it.
00:38:05
Cameron Resner
God.
00:38:06
Callum Jackson
But...
00:38:07
Cameron Resner
Racist. Um,
00:38:09
Callum Jackson
Do they all look the same?
00:38:11
Cameron Resner
They all look the same. God.
00:38:13
Callum Jackson
All these Marvel
Resident Evil Requiem Preferences
00:38:15
Callum Jackson
men. um but yeah And then probably our final game that we can sort of talk about, but to be honest, I don't give a fuck. um Actually, no, there's another one, but Resident Evil Requiem. Leon's in it.
00:38:29
Callum Jackson
um i And not that I don't give a fuck, I just don't get around to playing them. um Maybe you will like this one because you like Resident Evil 4. Maybe this will be a calling to you.
00:38:39
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I don't know.
00:38:41
Callum Jackson
you say you don't care?
00:38:43
Cameron Resner
um
00:38:45
Cameron Resner
I don't know. Yeah, I like Resident Evil 4, but I prefer the third person. If if you can play it in third person from the beginning, I will, maybe.
00:38:51
Callum Jackson
You can.
00:38:52
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:38:52
Callum Jackson
You can, like off the bat, you can switch. So, and I think they've even gone further to be like the cutscenes are in first and you when you're playing in first person and when you're playing in third, they're third.
00:38:56
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:39:04
Cameron Resner
Yeah, because I remember that about the 8th, Resident Evil 8, they like added third person in late, but it was like still you would switch between first person.
00:39:16
Callum Jackson
Oh, so like the new Avatar up update.
00:39:17
Cameron Resner
i up Yeah.
00:39:18
Callum Jackson
Yeah, yeah.
00:39:19
Cameron Resner
But if it's like, oh you can just go in and just play it all, and it looks like Resident Evil 4, then yeah.
00:39:26
Callum Jackson
There's ah another game called For Loop.
00:39:26
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:39:29
Callum Jackson
Did you see that? It literally just looks like Helldivers. I'm like, these guys are a bit late.
00:39:35
Cameron Resner
No, I shouldn't
00:39:35
Callum Jackson
like It's like live, die, repeat in Helldivers. You die and then you get re-brought back to life and then you die. and then Yeah, but it's more on the Helldivers thing.
00:39:42
Cameron Resner
see that.
00:39:44
Callum Jackson
So I was like, I've got Helldivers. i don't It didn't really like scratch any itch. And then I think...
00:39:53
Callum Jackson
there There was like a few other games.
00:39:56
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:39:56
Callum Jackson
There's one where you play as a dog called the Free Shepherd, which looked quite cool. um And yeah, just a few other games.
00:40:03
Cameron Resner
Nice.
00:40:04
Callum Jackson
um If you like platformers, Bradley the Badger looks quite fun.
00:40:08
Cameron Resner
Bradley the Badger.
00:40:09
Callum Jackson
Yeah, like so there was like levels based off like Bloodborne, Cyberpunk, Last of Us. It's kind of like Banjo-Kazooie.
00:40:17
Cameron Resner
Yeah, that's cool.
00:40:18
Callum Jackson
um but he like kind of breaks his world and then goes into different worlds by the looks of things. So yeah, that looks that looks like quite a fun um platformer. And then the last last thing, unless there's something else you want to talk about on here.
00:40:32
Cameron Resner
No, I think those are the main ones.
00:40:33
Callum Jackson
Okay. The last thing I'd like to mention, which I haven't watched the trailer because it was just a cinematic one. That statue, it wasn't Bloodborne or Elder Scrolls. It was Divinity, a new one.
00:40:44
Cameron Resner
Oh, yes. Yes. That trader was interesting.
00:40:47
Callum Jackson
Yeah. So that, yeah.
00:40:49
Cameron Resner
We'll just go.
00:40:49
Callum Jackson
And that, that's the people that you told me make, um, boulders go.
00:40:49
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:40:52
Cameron Resner
okay
00:40:53
Callum Jackson
So yeah, I'm sure people were going to lose their fucking minds over that.
00:40:58
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I'm very keen to see that.
00:40:58
Callum Jackson
But
00:40:59
Cameron Resner
I liked div visit it at divinity was and it's slightly different like Divinity. was... Baldur's Gate, but it had kind of more interactivity with the
New Divinity Game by Baldur's Gate Creators
00:41:10
Cameron Resner
world.
00:41:10
Cameron Resner
like You could like set with elements. You could like set things on fire and do things like that.
00:41:13
Callum Jackson
yeah.
00:41:17
Cameron Resner
So this is interesting. It seems like it's going to be a bigger game. And they're just calling it Divinity, which is interesting.
00:41:25
Callum Jackson
big balls are they is it more gritty and dark than both would you say yeah
00:41:26
Cameron Resner
So...
00:41:30
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I think so. It's like a darker fantasy. this I think the guy I the guy i played as in when i was played when I played it, it was like a skeleton that would literally go and cut people's skins off and wear them.
00:41:44
Cameron Resner
You'd disguise yourselves as people. So I was like, okay, cool.
00:41:46
Callum Jackson
like okay oh yeah
00:41:48
Cameron Resner
Yeah. But yeah, so I think Baldur's Gate is like more like traditional fantasy, I'd say. Yeah.
00:41:55
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:41:57
Cameron Resner
So that's also interesting. It's going to be a different vibe. But I don't it think there's a release date on that one either. It's going to be a while.
00:42:04
Callum Jackson
No. No. A lot of things are... It said like 26, but none of them really gave an actual date.
00:42:13
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:42:13
Callum Jackson
um You know, they said 26 or 27, but again, yeah, nothing really gave a date other but than that.
00:42:20
Callum Jackson
But it looked like everything except from that Star Wars game did say about 26, 27, think.
00:42:20
Cameron Resner
All quite ambiguous.
00:42:27
Callum Jackson
um but who knows who knows
00:42:27
Cameron Resner
Oh nice.
00:42:31
Cameron Resner
Oh nice.
00:42:31
Callum Jackson
who knows things get delayed all the time and i'd rather things delayed but actually come out and you know be playable so you know there'ss there's there's i've got a massive backlog anyway so i'm i'm i'm quite happy i'm i'm sure um no one's going to want to release next year around gta so
00:42:40
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:42:47
Cameron Resner
It's satiated.
00:42:55
Cameron Resner
Yeah, if they stop pushing it, then maybe.
00:42:57
Callum Jackson
if it comes out again. ah I just think it was fun. I think um one of our friends said, ah this was ages ago, that they thought it was coming out early this year.
GTA Online's 13-Year Evolution
00:43:13
Callum Jackson
I laughed then and I laughed now.
00:43:15
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:43:15
Callum Jackson
But then they were like, oh, it may be late. and then But then they thought that the online was coming as well with it and i was like, yeah, because the online came with GTA V, didn't it? And also...
00:43:26
Cameron Resner
Yeah, they better have their shit together more than the first time.
00:43:30
Callum Jackson
Yeah, the online needs to sort of hit the ground running, I'm afraid.
00:43:33
Cameron Resner
Even if it's like two weeks, like if they need to be like, okay, single player comes out there, multiplayer comes out here, and there, because I remember the, I mean, they said they were talking about heists for two years before they came into multiplayer.
00:43:48
Cameron Resner
It's like, guys, what are you doing?
00:43:49
Callum Jackson
fucking ridiculous. And that's like... Yeah,
00:43:51
Cameron Resner
And that's what, they didn't know really know how big it would be, that's fair enough, but now I'm like, you know.
00:43:55
Callum Jackson
yeah now you know how big it's going to be and how much money it makes you.
00:43:58
Cameron Resner
There better be a lot of content in there. It better not be like completely ridiculous to like get cool stuff and shit. so Yeah, I guess so.
00:44:07
Callum Jackson
i think I think to be honest they're going to release it and probably not learn their lesson too much. Do you know why I think GTA 5 they're earning so much money for bare minimum right now?
00:44:21
Callum Jackson
And I feel like they will cash cow that until they have enough cash again which that of course they already do but until they have more so then they can properly fund GTA 6 online.
00:44:25
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:44:37
Callum Jackson
But I mean, it's got to start with like, you've got to be able to do more. Because I remember when we first had it, I had on PS3. So I was playing with Richard and we all we done was go into a convenience store, rob it, then go to the mountain, get the cops on us, fight to the death, drive around.
00:44:46
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:44:51
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah. It's
00:44:57
Cameron Resner
taken 13 years.
00:44:58
Callum Jackson
That was it.
00:45:00
Callum Jackson
The amount of shit you can do now is really cool.
00:45:01
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:45:04
Cameron Resner
it's taken to thirteen years
00:45:04
Callum Jackson
But Yeah, yeah. And like you said, the heist coming in like two years after it launched is... Just think of that. Just actually... just think how fucking crazy that
00:45:14
Cameron Resner
And they kept saying, they were like, they're coming out soon. I think they before the game came out, they were like, heist will be out when multiplayer's out. And then they were like, no. It's like, how have you got it that wrong?
00:45:26
Cameron Resner
Two years. It's like, Jesus Christ.
00:45:27
Callum Jackson
And it's not even that great.
00:45:29
Cameron Resner
No, I mean, those first ones were, yeah. I mean, yeah.
00:45:33
Callum Jackson
They're good.
00:45:33
Cameron Resner
No.
00:45:34
Callum Jackson
Don't get me wrong. They're not two years good though.
00:45:37
Cameron Resner
No.
00:45:38
Callum Jackson
No, no.
00:45:39
Cameron Resner
I mean, yeah, i mean I think the best one was that last one they released, the one that we played over and over again.
00:45:43
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:45:45
Cameron Resner
But um yeah, so there's more options.
00:45:46
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that was that was a good one. When you go to a different island. number one
00:45:49
Cameron Resner
No, yeah, that's...
00:45:50
Callum Jackson
But again, like this is... Okay, sorry. So this is what they need to do with this. You can't expect us to play a heist like 50 times to get anything.
00:46:00
Cameron Resner
no yeah that's
00:46:01
Callum Jackson
Because we just carried on.
00:46:02
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:46:02
Callum Jackson
We played that heist over and over and over again.
00:46:05
Cameron Resner
I feel like, I mean, Red red Dead 2 Online was grindy as well, though, wasn't
00:46:11
Callum Jackson
Red Dead 2 felt like I was literally living in the Old West.
00:46:15
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:46:15
Callum Jackson
And I couldn't afford shit.
00:46:16
Cameron Resner
but Yeah, I was going to say, you had to grind. i don't think I unlocked anything nice.
00:46:21
Callum Jackson
no that's what I'm getting at. like You could not afford shit. And then it felt like our character died at a young age because we just couldn't play anymore.
00:46:32
Cameron Resner
haven't.
00:46:32
Callum Jackson
I went back and had my own fun with Me and Brad played, um we we dressed up as the cavalry, the union or the confederate, which i would no, no, we were the union. I was in blue, but yeah, we, we just, we dressed up as them like the cavalry and that was some fun. like But again, that's role-playing, isn't it? I had to make, I just went on random missions and pretended I was a man of the army.
00:46:59
Cameron Resner
Yeah, that's pretty. Yeah, no, the stuff like that, and it was, see yeah, it was really good. It played good.
00:47:04
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:47:06
Cameron Resner
I don't, yeah. I just hope there's a multiplayer game that doesn't just want fucking your whole soul to actually, yeah.
00:47:13
Callum Jackson
And you're just just your money to to do anything.
00:47:18
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:47:19
Callum Jackson
Like, it's just...
00:47:20
Cameron Resner
But, I mean, I'm part of the problem. I gave GTA loads of money, so. I'm going to do it again.
00:47:24
Callum Jackson
yeah we we Yeah, we are the... prop Do you know what? I didn't... I actually didn't... though i think Hell... What was the ah other game? Finals. Helldivers and the Finals were the first games that I dropped like a lot of money into.
00:47:31
Cameron Resner
Finals.
00:47:35
Callum Jackson
I didn't do it before, but with these two games, i was like, oh, fuck, I'm playing them. And I did put a lot of hours into them. I bought some skins on COD, but nothing to the extent of Finals and Helldivers.
00:47:47
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:47:48
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Finals, that's kind of like a free game. And I know GTA Online is free now, but it wasn't.
00:47:54
Callum Jackson
No, it wasn't.
00:47:54
Cameron Resner
But I was putting loads of money into it.
00:47:55
Callum Jackson
you You got a good point there. Yeah. When it's a free game, you can accept it.
00:47:59
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I mean, if if I like the free game and I play 100 hours in it, I don't mind giving them like ยฃ60-ยฃ70.
00:48:00
Callum Jackson
It's the way they make money.
00:48:06
Cameron Resner
Okay, cool. Yeah, exactly. this like
00:48:07
Callum Jackson
Yeah, because then you'll get in the game, aren't you?
00:48:10
Callum Jackson
like Yeah, I agree. And like if you want something new on it and you're still playing it, go ahead, whatever.
00:48:10
Cameron Resner
sorry
00:48:14
Cameron Resner
then
00:48:15
Callum Jackson
you In the grand scheme of things, it's not that bad.
00:48:16
Cameron Resner
Yeah, have fun.
00:48:18
Callum Jackson
um yeah But like I think you know a game like COD charging ยฃ30 for a skin, it's just, what the fuck?
00:48:24
Cameron Resner
Yes. It's rotten.
00:48:30
Callum Jackson
You could go buy another ยฃ15 Clare Obscure.
00:48:36
Cameron Resner
Probably is 30 pounds now.
00:48:38
Callum Jackson
Yeah, but i again, that might not be your kind of game, but you could play the finals for free.
00:48:39
Cameron Resner
No.
00:48:43
Cameron Resner
No, are we?
00:48:45
Callum Jackson
There you go. There's another shooter.
00:48:47
Cameron Resner
I going to say, yeah.
00:48:48
Callum Jackson
You can, yeah, there's a lot of shooters, especially, you know, Counter-Strike's free.
00:48:48
Cameron Resner
You could...
00:48:52
Callum Jackson
I know there's like gambling and that shit, but like there's a lot of free-to-play games.
00:48:53
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Even just older shooters, you can go and buy all the Doom games. You can go buy all of Wolfenstein. You can...
00:49:00
Callum Jackson
Yeah. go Go buy another game instead of that stupid bundle that's 30 quid.
00:49:03
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Unless it's the Wabskin.
00:49:06
Callum Jackson
If you really want it, fuck it. I don't care. But actually, get off COD.
00:49:11
Cameron Resner
Public service announcement.
00:49:11
Callum Jackson
That's my message.
00:49:14
Cameron Resner
Get off card.
00:49:14
Callum Jackson
you know what? I just think it's just been funny recently watching all these companies. just they just I don't know who the fuck's leading them, but they just seem to be making...
00:49:23
Cameron Resner
It seems like everyone's leaving, so that's why.
00:49:24
Callum Jackson
Yeah, makes shit cool after shit cool.
00:49:25
Cameron Resner
Probably no one left leaving.
00:49:27
Callum Jackson
Like Xbox buying Activision and then pumping out CODs. And then now that I just saw an article there said, oh, it's actually harder than it looks to do a yearly release.
00:49:37
Callum Jackson
No fucking shit.
00:49:40
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:49:40
Callum Jackson
Also, you're just trying to get your fucking money back.
00:49:40
Cameron Resner
I mean they should have stolen that a long time ago.
00:49:42
Callum Jackson
Like...
00:49:43
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:49:43
Callum Jackson
And then fucking, could you believe, that the only thing that Xbox won out of getting Activision for COD is that Sony then were pressured into buying Bungie.
00:49:56
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:49:57
Callum Jackson
And now look at that. Because Sony also went, oh, they've bought a studio, we'll buy Bungie. They'll make us money. And then Destiny 2's just fucking falling off. And then that marathon game that's never going to, I don't even, I would cancel it now.
00:50:13
Callum Jackson
And be like, make a new game. Bring back Halo.
00:50:16
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:50:17
Callum Jackson
bring Bring back something on the the level of Halo and we'll talk.
00:50:22
Cameron Resner
We'll make Destiny 3.
00:50:23
Callum Jackson
Or make Destiny. Apparently that is being made, but I would say that I would start fresh.
00:50:24
Cameron Resner
yes
00:50:28
Callum Jackson
I'm really trying, because you would get the old audience and then someone like me will come back.
00:50:30
Cameron Resner
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:34
Cameron Resner
Yes.
Netflix and Warner Bros. Acquisition Concerns
00:50:35
Cameron Resner
No, yeah. That's a good point.
00:50:36
Callum Jackson
freshen up i just yeah they're not yeah and then yeah fucking there's just been so many buyers and i think fucking netflix as well buying warner bros it's like they want to kill everything i i don't understand any of it but it's all all bad but that's thiss that's my opinion on it all bad
00:50:52
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:58
Cameron Resner
Yeah. We should see you with that one.
00:51:00
Callum Jackson
yeah Because with that, my main concern is everything was flowing quite well. Like, at the moment, in my head, was like, alright, let's see what they do with Harry Potter. Let's see what they do with the DC universe. But you know, if one movie flops, they'll be like, nah, we're restarting DC.
00:51:20
Callum Jackson
You just fucking know that theyll just they have that power now if they actually go through a binary. Because I know there's been some complications at the moment. But... oh like right now it's all feeling like oh yeah it's fine like whatever but in the end you know if like a new doom movie comes out they'll be like no it's straight to streaming and also oh it didn't no one tuned in for that okay fuck that and then doom's dead
00:51:44
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I don't know. I'm hoping, yeah, we shall see.
00:51:48
Callum Jackson
we shall but hmm
00:51:49
Cameron Resner
I feel feel like we've, I feel like streamers are seeing that they're not like, you can't You don't want to get rid of the movie theaters because actually if you if you have a great film that's like a lot of people watch and then it goes on to a streaming service, that's usually good for everyone.
00:52:09
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:52:09
Cameron Resner
um So if they own them and just still just let them do what they're doing, create good films and then be like, okay, now they're on Netflix afterwards, then I'll do it.
00:52:19
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it just depends. The thing that will be their mistake is the same thing that Disney done. And they were like, it every mo like Xbox did as well. They give that promise to the audience.
00:52:31
Callum Jackson
Everything we release in cinemas and everything we release and on Game Pass, Xbox... It'll be day one or it will come out very soon after. And that completely stops you from wanting to go to the cinema because why would you when month later, you you know, the new Disney movies on Disney plus like, and that stops a lot of people going because a lot of people, you know, it's mixed, isn't it?
00:52:54
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:52:55
Callum Jackson
Like people want to go to cinema unlike someone like me, but there's a lot of people like, I'll just wait. And I don't blame them. Like it's expensive to go out and do yeah,
00:53:03
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I think there's just a lot of shit as well that gets put out.
00:53:05
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:53:06
Cameron Resner
so People are like...
00:53:06
Callum Jackson
No, no, there is. But that's what I mean.
00:53:08
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:53:08
Callum Jackson
It's like make good things and also put it in cinema.
00:53:11
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:53:12
Callum Jackson
but When did that stop being a thing? ah It's like they just want to make shit and put on their streaming service. did It doesn't really. um But again, like I said, I was talking to Soph about it earlier, literally. And I was like, the thing I don't get is that these companies, they could easily just double their money. And I know it costs to like dispute stuff and um put it out there and put it in cinema and make a still book of it or a collector's edition or just releasing it on a normal box set.
00:53:44
Callum Jackson
But still, you're getting money because I just I worked out today, right? So though i said, if they release Stranger Things, there'll be no question I would buy the box set.
00:53:54
Callum Jackson
And to me, I'm like, but I still wouldn't cancel my Netflix subscription. So let's just say it's ยฃ100 for the box set. You're getting half a year pretty much of subscription money in one go.
00:53:54
Cameron Resner
Yes.
00:54:10
Callum Jackson
Because someone like me would do that.
00:54:11
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:54:12
Callum Jackson
And then a lot of people would do that. So it's just weird that they don't balance it out and go, oh yeah, fuck it We'll do both. It really confuses me.
00:54:23
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah. I think they were going hard at one point to like to remove the theaters from the equation but yeah you know something tells me that they're learning that you can't and that you can actually make more money if you just kind of work together with them because with warner i think paramount is also the other one that wants to buy them and it's like
00:54:33
Callum Jackson
You can't.
00:54:41
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:54:47
Cameron Resner
don't think I want them because then they're just going to, they are going to gut it and there's going to be less movies because of that. I would think because there's only so many movies that one company can release.
00:54:53
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:54:56
Cameron Resner
Whereas I feel like Netflix, they'll just be like, okay, we'll stop releasing our shit movies and just let one of us keep like,
00:55:03
Callum Jackson
Yeah, see, that would be the benefit if they were smart and they're like, let's just stop with our shit. We just own Warner Bros now.
00:55:08
Cameron Resner
yeah.
00:55:10
Callum Jackson
They actually have good IPs.
00:55:10
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:55:12
Callum Jackson
But again, I don't want it to be like they've bought, like Xbox, they've bought a bunch of IPs and gone, I don't care who the fuck you are, just go make another Harry Potter film or a Bond film or whatever the fuck you want to make.
00:55:12
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:55:16
Cameron Resner
Oh yeah, I agree.
00:55:25
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:55:25
Callum Jackson
Just go do that. i don't Do you care about it? No, you don't. Oh, okay, go go make it Like...
00:55:30
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:55:30
Callum Jackson
I don't want that. And I feel like that could it could go that way.
00:55:32
Cameron Resner
I mean, yeah.
00:55:36
Cameron Resner
I think I'm basing off Amazon's treatment of bond and all signs at the moment shows that they're treating it right with who they've got directing it and who they've got producing it.
00:55:49
Callum Jackson
Yeah, and the game coming out.
00:55:49
Cameron Resner
So, cause I feel like, like it's like, yeah, it's like people have made mistakes, but like, why would you buy something and then destroy its value?
00:56:01
Cameron Resner
Like,
00:56:01
Callum Jackson
I don't know. Ask Disney.
00:56:02
Cameron Resner
yeah i mean Yeah, Disney have done it, but I feel like people are probably looking at that now and being like, fuck, we don't like that's not what not to do.
00:56:11
Callum Jackson
If you were Disney, you would just say nothing matters. We're restarting with Star Wars, wouldn't you?
00:56:18
Cameron Resner
Oh yeah yeah, you just do a reboot and just be like, yeah.
00:56:18
Callum Jackson
I would. Because you've made your money. Just reboot.
00:56:24
Callum Jackson
Just.
00:56:24
Cameron Resner
And they'd make so much money.
00:56:25
Cameron Resner
If if they were just like, okay, we're we're not we're going to be back back like held back by all this history we're just going to go something new and then i think people will be like cool yeah from george luke
00:56:38
Callum Jackson
yeah and then And then bring the talent because talent is ah is a big thing now. So you know make sure you're not just going, oh, it's an AI artist or they've wrote the script for us.
00:56:49
Callum Jackson
Get people that care about it and the and a big name director to for people to go, oh shit, that actually, that might be good.
00:56:51
Cameron Resner
hmm yeah
00:56:58
Cameron Resner
No, exactly.
00:56:59
Callum Jackson
um yeah that's that's the way that I would go around it because did you see sorry and um we we did have another idea to talk about but we can we can leave that till next week because we're already coming up to an hour but did you see just to like sort of wrap this up because i don't want to go too deep into all this but did you see that there was a an article recently where the higher ups said to James Cameron they're still not sure on giving him like more money for Avatar like to make the sequels
00:57:09
Cameron Resner
We can indeed, yes.
00:57:13
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:57:28
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I saw James Cameron saying that.
00:57:30
Callum Jackson
And but like,
00:57:32
Cameron Resner
But I'm like, i i
00:57:35
Callum Jackson
i
00:57:36
Cameron Resner
yeah, I don't see that happening. But, yeah.
00:57:38
Callum Jackson
but if that if that's real, I would be like, what the fuck are you talking about, too? Because whether you like the films or not, it's not about that. It's about what they make at the box office. And maybe that is confusing how much they've made at the box office. But that.
00:57:56
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I guess.
00:57:57
Callum Jackson
I would be like, over Star Wars, because i don't I think the highest grossing Star Wars film didn't even hit a billion. You would be like, oh, Avatar's got something there, clearly.
00:58:10
Callum Jackson
And Disney own it.
00:58:10
Cameron Resner
yeah yeah i think i don't know i think he's i think they're just saying that because they don't want to be like four is coming but there's it's just like a bit being like oh we don't know
00:58:13
Callum Jackson
Jump on that shit.
00:58:22
Callum Jackson
Yeah, i i I don't like that commitment anymore, though, because it's the same thing with like when we saw Dune and it was like, well, if this earns enough, then you can see the full story. I don't like that.
00:58:34
Callum Jackson
I like that there's a vision and someone's got one and they go, well, it needs to be split into these films.
00:58:35
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:58:40
Callum Jackson
I get taken to piss and it doesn't need it. But also at the same time, i like, you know, series and coming back to things.
00:58:44
Cameron Resner
But yeah.
00:58:46
Callum Jackson
People do like that. That's why they're made.
00:58:48
Cameron Resner
He has said, I mean, this comes from his words, I think he said that this would be a, if it did end here, it would be a good end still. like i'm Like, I'm also like, what did they announce?
00:58:56
Callum Jackson
well Well, we'll let you guys know next week.
00:59:00
Cameron Resner
Like seven Avatar films? Like how many Avatar films did he say he's going to do?
00:59:03
Callum Jackson
he it was It was five in total.
00:59:07
Cameron Resner
Including the first? Yeah.
00:59:08
Callum Jackson
Yeah, including the first.
00:59:09
Cameron Resner
Okay.
00:59:10
Callum Jackson
So it's not even that bad, but yeah. i i'm
00:59:13
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:59:15
Callum Jackson
Again, I don't even think you would need that for the main series. um But if he has something to tell, I'm happy. I fucking love his movies. um
00:59:25
Cameron Resner
Yeah. He may also just want an out. He may be like, I've done this for 20 years now.
00:59:29
Callum Jackson
He doesn't know.
00:59:29
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:59:30
Callum Jackson
Did you see that? There was another thing where he was like, no, I love these.
00:59:31
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:59:33
Callum Jackson
like like like He's glad they caught on. Of course he is, but yeah.
00:59:38
Cameron Resner
yeah i Yeah, I just, I don't know. I take everything everyone says with a grain of salt because I'm like, just a lot of people say things and then I'm like...
00:59:45
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:59:48
Callum Jackson
especially James Cameron, like, um, calling Terminator 3, the real Terminator 3 for three times now.
00:59:54
Cameron Resner
his Three times, yeah.
00:59:56
Callum Jackson
Yeah. That sort of thing.
00:59:58
Cameron Resner
ah
00:59:58
Callum Jackson
No, he, I think he only done it twice, but literally from Genesis, I remember in the trailer, he like, this is my real vision for Terminator 3.
01:00:02
Cameron Resner
Yeah. It's just a little...
01:00:04
Callum Jackson
He didn't direct it. So they obviously paid him and he was just like, yeah, fuck it. And Dark Fate, he was, he done it again. And I was like, you dirty fucker. You dirty,
01:00:14
Cameron Resner
James, you're losing trust.
01:00:16
Callum Jackson
He was just like, I made the greatest action film of all time. I will not keep coming back. to No, I will keep coming back if you pay me to say that this is truly the next Terminator sequel.
01:00:30
Cameron Resner
The next big thing.
01:00:31
Callum Jackson
Fucking hell.
Terminator and Avatar Sequels Debate
01:00:34
Callum Jackson
Still haven't got it.
01:00:35
Cameron Resner
um still haven't got the next true sequel maybe it'll do that after maybe oh yeah yeah
01:00:39
Callum Jackson
Except from that game that showed you the other day when you came around. Terminator Resistance. That's a pretty good sequel. And now in my hands, it came today. The Terminator 2D.
01:00:49
Callum Jackson
No fate. I'll let you know how that is.
01:00:51
Cameron Resner
hmm Yes, please do.
01:00:53
Callum Jackson
But, uh, yeah, I'm very much looking forward to that.
01:00:55
Cameron Resner
Maybe if this avatar fails, then he'll go back to, he'll make the third one himself.
01:00:59
Callum Jackson
Fucking hell, that would be a dream.
01:01:00
Cameron Resner
Like, this is the real one.
01:01:02
Callum Jackson
That
01:01:02
Cameron Resner
But that'd be the dream. You wouldn't, so you, what would you take? s Terminator a three or avatar four?
01:01:06
Callum Jackson
Oh, no. Okay. So the time has passed for me. And I think Terminator one and two are literally perfect. So I would take another avatar, because I feel because I'm still in avatar.
01:01:15
Cameron Resner
Hmm. Okay.
01:01:20
Callum Jackson
Like I'm like, yeah, I want to know more.
01:01:20
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:01:22
Callum Jackson
Where Terminator, I'm like, you can leave it there. And you could have left it there in 92 or three.
01:01:29
Callum Jackson
91 I can't remember it's one of those years but yeah you can leave Terminator there i'm I'm very much happy like if they wanted to do something new with Terminator like show the future war like they try to do with Salvation but I would personally just leave it
01:01:30
Cameron Resner
Right.
01:01:32
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
Avatar Sequel's Financial Gamble
01:01:47
Callum Jackson
and these games are doing fine so yeah um yeah
01:01:47
Cameron Resner
Yeah. good Yeah, I agree. I mean, ah just just to give you a little fact, I was just looking at Avatar. I just wanted to know how much the second one cost to make.
01:01:58
Cameron Resner
How much do you think it cost to make?
01:02:01
Callum Jackson
Probably the fucking 1 billion.
01:02:03
Cameron Resner
It was just over 1 billion.
01:02:04
Callum Jackson
Yeah?
James Cameron's Film Legacy
01:02:05
Cameron Resner
So, I mean, I can see it being like, okay, if this doesn't make 2 billion, then yeah.
01:02:09
Callum Jackson
Yes.
01:02:11
Cameron Resner
Then if if they've spent a billion on three.
01:02:11
Callum Jackson
But again, I would put faith in it.
01:02:14
Cameron Resner
Yeah, no, I'd put faith in it, but yes.
01:02:15
Callum Jackson
I would stop talking about the money aspects of it and just be like, we're selling a good film.
01:02:18
Cameron Resner
i
01:02:21
Cameron Resner
you know
Avatar Films as Modern Epics
01:02:22
Callum Jackson
Which I do think, whether, again, you like these films or not, I do think, or you like really invested in them, I do think James Cameron makes a really solid...
01:02:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:02:31
Callum Jackson
even though they're long he he always just somehow you're entertained and they might not be the deepest they might not be like the best dialogue or you know story or whatever you want to say or like the the most best action scenes that you've seen but definitely i don't know what it is about them but every film that i have watched it even fucking Titanic that's three hours and it's not really boring is it
01:02:32
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah.
01:02:58
Cameron Resner
No, they're entertaining.
01:02:59
Callum Jackson
yeah so yeah the thing is i do think i mean avatars are like my epics that like in the recent years i mean um like they're the epics where i'm like oh i'm looking forward to sitting down for three hours i don't normally these days want to sit down for three hours but these films go by so quick like you wait so long for them and then you're like oh it's over
01:03:17
Cameron Resner
No.
Future Podcast Plans
01:03:24
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
01:03:24
Callum Jackson
So for me anyway, yeah. And I definitely think pro because they're that long is probably what gets people to sit in the cinema again and make up their mind. because i feel Because I saw The Way of Water twice in cinema.
01:03:37
Callum Jackson
And I was like, ooh, yeah.
01:03:37
Cameron Resner
Oh, no, I agree.
01:03:38
Cameron Resner
They're great in cinema.
01:03:40
Callum Jackson
So yeah, we're goingnna it it won't be next week's episode, I don't think, because we're going to go on the Friday night.
01:03:45
Cameron Resner
No.
01:03:46
Callum Jackson
But it will probably be the following week.
01:03:48
Cameron Resner
We will chat about. ah Yes. Yeah.
01:03:53
Callum Jackson
Yeah, so so we'll talk about a bit of Avatar.
01:03:54
Cameron Resner
that's We'll see, because that's Christmas week and stuff. sir
01:03:57
Callum Jackson
Yeah, so we shall let you know, but if not, there will be a talk of Avatar and our top films before the end of the year.
01:03:59
Cameron Resner
um
01:04:03
Cameron Resner
Oh, yes. Mm-hmm.
01:04:05
Callum Jackson
Right.
01:04:05
Cameron Resner
I think maybe we do our talk. Yeah, actually, no. Okay, cool. Yeah, we'll do that.
01:04:09
Callum Jackson
We could probably do, we could talk half of the time about Avatar and then our top films, but might be a bit pushing it, but we'll we'll see.
01:04:14
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
01:04:16
Callum Jackson
We'll see how it goes.
01:04:17
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
01:04:18
Callum Jackson
We'll let the natural conversation flow.
01:04:20
Cameron Resner
Flowrider. Very good. um It's been a pleasure.
01:04:25
Callum Jackson
Lots to look forward to.
01:04:26
Cameron Resner
Yeah, lots to look forward to.
01:04:26
Callum Jackson
And, yeah.
01:04:28
Cameron Resner
Hopefully some of these will come out. um Hopefully Avatar 4 will come out and then we're all good.
01:04:33
Callum Jackson
Yes. Make Star Wars great again.
01:04:35
Cameron Resner
Okay.
01:04:38
Callum Jackson
Right. I shall...
01:04:39
Cameron Resner
I'll play you my intro. Goodbye,
01:04:42
Callum Jackson
Jesus.