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Trophy Hunting and Ghost of Yotei - Episode #12
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Transcript
00:00:01
Speaker
Hello, hello, hello. thought that was the work. I was like, don't remember that one.
Introduction and Host Banter
00:00:10
Speaker
Welcome to the Cosmic Jismodo podcast. Welcome, welcome. With your host, Callum Raxon.
00:00:21
Speaker
and We revealed your last name. Fuck, what was his name? Dank. Dank. dan Dankmiller. Dankmiller, but... what Oh, man no. Mankfiller. Dankmiller and Mankfiller.
00:00:33
Speaker
Oh. We'll let your minds ponder where that name came from. Probably not what you think. And we'll never reveal it. Anyway, moving on.
Ghost of Yota Game Discussion
00:00:47
Speaker
How have you been? Very well. um Been playing and finishing Ghost of Yota, or Yota, however you want to pronounce it. it probably It probably took me until this one released to say the last one's name, Ghost of Sonshoshima. Yeah, still.
00:01:10
Speaker
Stop calling it off the islands in Japan, please. Oh, yeah. Do you think they're going to do another one Yes, but I hope that they break it up now.
00:01:22
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um And I would actually, may I talk about that for a little bit? Yes, you may. so Because since I finished it, I feel like I can sort of give it. your um I loved it.
00:01:34
Speaker
And I think like it's just as good as the first one. um and But that also comes in with a problem that it does not feel like a game that should have taken, what is it, five or six years to make? guess, I think.
00:01:52
Speaker
Yeah. I think the first one was either 2019 or 20. No, it must have been like 2019 because of the PS5 was coming out. Yeah. So it was just before the PS5 came out. um Yeah, with like Last of Us 2 as well, which I would have saved them for a PS5 launch, both of them. twenty twenty It was Wait, when did the come out then?
00:02:16
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2020. Oh, okay. Okay, cool. All right, so it was 2020. It's been
Graphics Evolution in Gaming
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five years then. But still, you would have saved that one for the PS5 launch, I think. I would have, anyway. But anyway... um Got The Last of Us 2 for that.
00:02:28
Speaker
Yeah, but they didn't even do that. That released on PS5. They've done that twice, though. They've done it... The original Last of Us was yeah literally a few months before PS4 came out.
00:02:39
Speaker
So, yeah, okay, I guess. End on a high. When was the remastered one? and was Like February, the next year, I think. Like 2014, I think.
00:02:51
Speaker
The MasterCraft. Carry on. Every fucking PlayStation will have a Last of Us remaster. Last Us is like the avatar of the gaming world.
00:03:02
Speaker
What does that mean? but don't know. For you, it's like it's just shit, but everyone loves it. yes um But ah yeah, so Ghost. I think it yeah it's great. But when you play it, and I do think they've improved a lot from the first one, which is in areas I didn't think even myself, I'd be like, oh, yeah, you need to improve that.
00:03:25
Speaker
But I think like the locations and how it looks is just so good. like In the first one, I thought it was great. But I i did have the problem where I was like, the graphics...
00:03:36
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are on the... They're stylized, so they look really nice. But I wouldn't say they're like the best graphics I've seen. um No. They're very... like alter it A bit um dated on like details, but like they've obviously gone for like the art style now. And I think that definitely improved with the new one.
00:03:56
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yeah Because everything looks like a fucking painting. And
Comparison with Assassin's Creed
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it just looks amazing. and like Even the cutscenes. Because I used to have a problem where... in the first one where the camera would pan out on cut scenes so you didn't have to look at the ugly yeah so it was they couldn't be bothered to animate it but you were just in like some trees or something but nothing really going on and in this one it was like there was a mountain in the background or yeah you know autumn leaves flying they really like locked in on and making it look as pretty as possible so that's a good one the fact that it
00:04:28
Speaker
isn't really realistic and as an art style is even more confusing as to why it took so long i yes because it's like spider-man yeah but it will stand that i think these games stand the test time more so if they do that yeah um but yeah no yeah that's what's more confusing and what's more more confusing i think you got like assassin's creed 2 assassin's creed brotherhood and the recognitions yes and it's like i mean they They all look slightly better than each other.
00:04:53
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but Yeah, I agree. sp like is When they're a year in between, though. When they're year apart each. Yeah, year apart each. That's what I mean. thought I would say Ghost of Yote is like... It's a similar thing to going from AC2 to Brotherhood in terms of what's being added.
00:05:12
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I don't think there's a ton added, but what it there is new stuff added, but it's not like a new game.
Jedi Survivor and Game Development
00:05:18
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, no, I feel like That's actually a really good comparison, which I hadn't thought about until you said it. But i was thinking, you know, because my comparison was Jedi Survivor and Spider-Man 2, so more recent games.
00:05:31
Speaker
But still, they both took a long time. I would argue Jedi Survivor three years, I can see where that went. Yeah, three years is a bit more. um But, you know, because if you go like, oh yeah, but they had to make a whole new island and a new combat system and a new character. And I'm like, the only thing that's really similar in Jedi Survivor, like as a sequel, is that you're playing as cow.
00:05:53
Speaker
Yes. um But everything else, that's it's new environments. It's a new combat. Yes. yeah brained yes That's probably what took them so long. They're like, we must make the ass perfect.
00:06:06
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yeah But um it was, it honestly is a really good game. But like you said, like thinking of that, Assassin's Creed, and I know like game development's harder.
Game Development Cycles
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or I don't know. i'm I'm not a fucking game developer, but it's got to be because yeah, Assassin's Creed, they made Assassin's Creed 2 Brotherhood and Revelations within three years.
00:06:25
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And that does that exact thing I said with like a new area. So a new map. yeah There's new characters going on, new stories, and new combat. I remember like the combat was basically the same, but it was new animations on the combat and there was more to do. I remember fucking shit in the bed when I saw the trailer where you could throw a sword.
00:06:45
Speaker
Yeah. And I know that's something small, but still it's cool. um and yeah And then Revelations added the hook blade. But then combat felt really different for that in in Revelations. And I really like Revelations. and then yeah so yeah i Honestly, taking five years to make this game, it's definitely not a five year. I mean, maybe Sony need to... I don't know how much, because obviously Ubisoft's a bigger company like than probably Sucker Punches.
00:07:12
Speaker
Yes. I mean, I was going to say, I think Assassin's Creed probably had maybe different teams. Yeah. The other comparison that just popped in my head was Uncharted. who was every years, I think. It was every two years. And then like, yeah, yeah. Every two years. Yeah. Because it was... last yeah But still, Uncharted done the same thing. And I think every two years, when you have a game and you've got the foundation and you're building upon it.
Overworld Games and Burnout
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Yeah. I mean... Because even then, Uncharted is a bit different than the other these other games because are agreed yeah it's still like... you know, like it said it's a linear story, but in some ways that's harder because your levels have to be designed like to perfection.
00:07:52
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i said And then all the story and and because the cut scenes are a lot different than the Assassin's Creed games and Ghost. Yeah. ah You know, it's like full acting at that point. Like that's what Naughty Dog do.
00:08:04
Speaker
um Every cut scene is actually like a cut scene, like proper, like a movie. But again, like I think a two year gap between all those was good. Um, and you could see the improvements going along and I think that's worth it.
00:08:17
Speaker
Um, every year you'd be like, holy shit, how did you pump that out? Um, but no, I feel like, yeah, the five years is too long, especially for what the game is. And now that I've completed it, I even think that more so.
00:08:30
Speaker
Yeah. And, um, The thing that I thought about the first one and I think about this one and I love both the games now, but they do go on, like they they outstay their welcome just a bit.
00:08:41
Speaker
Yeah. um You know, I got to Act 2 and i I think I was like 50 hours in and then it was, I was just there and i was like, oh my God. That's kind of why I slowed down on there because, I mean, I'm just cooked when it comes to overworld games because I just try and do everything and then I get fucking moved out. So I like saw that happening and I was like, I need to stop.
00:09:02
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want to try and go back to it and just try and focus on mainstreaming it, but i just it's just never been how I've i've played it. I will say to that, the Ghost games are probably the best that have done that for me personally. Like, i just feel, other than obviously, you know, Fox Dens and all that bullshit and following a yellow bird and doing bamboo strikes, I feel like the side missions and the side stuff are so good in those
Side Missions in Ghost Games
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games.
00:09:26
Speaker
Like, yeah to me, it just naturally flows. Like, I didn't feel like, oh I need to go do that now. The only time that I felt that is when I was going for the Platinum at the end. and where i was like, oh, I need to go fucking cut some more bamboo. Oh, there's six shrines I missed somehow.
00:09:39
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Yeah, yeah. That is when it becomes a bit tedious. There is a broken bit in my mind, though, that likes that kind of... likes the Assassin's Creed. Yeah. Checkpots. Just going through a map and just...
00:09:51
Speaker
I have that too. Yeah, I have that too. Especially when they give you the stats, right? Like five times and each time I've just 100%ed it and I'm like, that was good. yeah But it's like not, it's not interesting shit. No, it's just more mind numbing shit, isn't like, this is this is good shit. Well, well that again, I would think if you're not like banging it out,
00:10:12
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um at the end of the game like I did and I already played 60 hours by this time to finish all the stuff and then i spent another like five hours to do this other stuff I was like you know sitting here the other day five hours straight just doing that Just going to a shrine, going to a bamboo sh strike, just doing those stuff. And that was when it became, i was like, oh my God, can can I just get the platinum now?
00:10:35
Speaker
But um I think overall it's really good. i like the I was a bit worried that you were changing weapon because I liked the stances in the last one. But I do like that you had all these new weapons and gadgets to play with.
00:10:49
Speaker
Yeah. um something And I thought the pacing of the game was really good, even though it does outstay its welcome. But it it't it's in a way that outstays its welcome that they add sort of more... You'll see when you get there, but they add them like more story. And I'm like, shit, am going to have enough time to develop this?
00:11:05
Speaker
Yeah. Or am I already cooked on it? So... But they did. I'm just saying, like to me, I was like, at that point, I think... To to like give it it's fair yeah like to be fair to it, was like when I started getting burnt out, was at the point where like it was coming to an end anyway.
00:11:25
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And that happened on the first game. It wasn't too long.
Sony's Game Studio Management
00:11:28
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not Not much of ah of a fault of the game. um And yeah, in the end, yeah I think it's just as good as the first one after finishing it. And that's what I was worried about, wasn't it? I i wasn't actually too interested in it.
00:11:42
Speaker
yeah I was like, oh, fucking hell, it's another revenge story. yeah ah i've I've seen this. but but i guess yeah My question was, with everything taking so long, do you do you want them to make do you want them to be making these for 15-20 years? Or do you want to see something different from them? No, yeah. I 100% want to see... What, do you mean like the the ghost games? you want yeah I suck a punch. I want them to go back to Infamous or try a new IP.
00:12:11
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Like... Like I saw there was an interview. I've seen lot of... Sorry, I was going to say. I saw a lot of people say online that they they would just prefer it to be done. Yeah. like They're not over it. They're just like... Yeah.
00:12:24
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Like it's been like 10 years. Yeah. It's too much because like... The last infamous we got, so the last game before Sucker Punch, before Ghost, was um Infamous Second Son and then the DLC First Light.
00:12:40
Speaker
And I think that's ridiculous. I know, like, I think because they're a really good studio, again, I haven't looked into the numbers or who works there. But I think maybe Sony should like, you know, open them up a bit so they can pump out more games. yeah Because like, who are the other? Oh, Insomniac. When they're making Spider-Man, Ratchet and Clank, now Wolverine, like they were going at a good pace. They seem to have slowed down.
Lack of New IPs in PS5 Era
00:13:04
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Yeah. um I think what's always made PlayStation unique is that they kind of move on.
00:13:10
Speaker
Yes. Well, they did until... Well, they had their flagships, didn't they? they have like It feels like they have trilogies, but now it seems like they've stuck with them. In the PlayStation 5 era, you've kind of got...
00:13:22
Speaker
just sequels i feel like mostly i mean or remakes it honestly feels quite dead i'm trying to think of what's a new series that's come like a new ip i can't even think of um i'm sure there is i'm sure there is but even me i'm like horizon no yeah like but we're we're you're talking to me as well who really loves playstation and i can't tell you a new ip and it's been five job since the PlayStation 5 came out.
00:13:52
Speaker
so Yeah. They wouldn't talk about PlayStation 6. It's like you haven't made anything new. Yeah. can be I'm just trying to look like online. and Because that's kind of what they had over Xbox for a long time. Would you say Death
Marvel Games and Insomniac's Focus
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Stranding? Was that exclusive?
00:14:09
Speaker
It was at first, wasn't it? but then it yeah yeah Yeah, that wasn't it. Yeah, I would count that. But that was PlayStation 4, wasn't it Oh shit, yeah it was. fuck Yeah, it was. Astro Bot. No, that was PS4 as well, the first one.
00:14:22
Speaker
Demon's Souls. No, that was PS3. Oh, they came out with Lost Soul Aside. There you go, ah the one that we liked. um Fuck. ah the the The Space Woman um Returnal. channel yeah yeah That was new and that was cool. And they' bring it and they're doing a game that's similar to that.
00:14:42
Speaker
but it's sat yeah a new one. ah Oh God. Yeah. I'm just looking at it's fucking dead. Like they even, they, it's so dead that they remastered days gone. Yeah. And I love days gone. Well, I did when I went back to it, but they remastered days gone. The game that they remastered it after they said that there won't be a sequel.
00:15:01
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Yes. dust and That's where we're at. like Yeah, because um that's kind of what they had on Xbox for a long time. It's just the the variety because Xbox was like Forza Halo.
00:15:14
Speaker
Yeah. But ah it to be fair to Xbox, even though it's just dead now, they have they have released a lot of different types of games over the past few years. Yeah, I mean, i can't comment on it, um to be fair. I can't actually. um But like different IP, different, just different experiences.
00:15:34
Speaker
And I think PlayStation could lean more towards that. I think PlayStation got wrapped up in making... Everything multiplayer. No, I was going to say everything ah to look as real as possible. like They were like, oh, we're the single player guys. Let's go for everything has to be like Last of Us and God of War. And it was like, okay.
00:15:55
Speaker
And that's what I thought took everyone ages. but And then I'm like, okay, but Ghost of Tsushima. Like what? yeah Yeah. I saw like, just to go back on Sucker Punch, there which like, fucking, I've been waiting. Everything is like remade, re-released. And I don't mind that. I like a remaster. I don't care if it looks like the original game at 60 FPS or if it's like remade like Metal Gear was or, you know, something like that. But to not have, to have the first two infamous games,
00:16:26
Speaker
and the first three Killzone games locked on PS3, and they were like flagships for the PS3, is a crime. yeah I don't understand how then... Because I've been wanting to replay, and I've i've actually got my PS3 back up to be like, oh, play through Infamous and Killzone again.
00:16:46
Speaker
But that shouldn't be the case. like Games should just be available. Oh, for sure, yeah. I just don't understand why those games, as massive as they were, have kind of died. Because, like um yeah, I feel Infamous was a cool one because it wasn't Marvel, it wasn't DC, and they actually succeeded in making their own sort of superhero thing. So I feel like yeah they should have really doubled down on that universe, even if it wasn't just going to be Insomniac making it.
00:17:12
Speaker
Yeah, so it's it's kind of a shame that I think, I mean, it's caught the Spider-Man game's cool, but I feel like that just, like, the uprising of, like, Marvel has just, like, stopped anything else in that genre coming out.
Spider-Man 2 Critique
00:17:27
Speaker
yeah yeah Yeah, it feels like that. And then DC just putting out Suicide Squad, you're like, come on good you were supposed to be youre supposed to save us. Yeah, it yeah yeah that is it's a bit of a bad state. And again, um out of all of them, I would say Spider-Man 2 is the biggest... What the fuck? Why did that take so long?
00:17:48
Speaker
But I know it's like it's the same map with ah an addition, right? it's Yeah, it's... i That game should have come out. I'll give it two years. i am But no.
00:18:01
Speaker
I'm sorry. It took too fucking long. I think that was another five years, wasn't it? After the first game. It was like one of the most expensive games they've ever made or something. Yeah, i think yeah we did I think we spoke about that before. But yeah, just yeah it's not it's not worth being the most expensive game. it's it's It's literally, it feels like DLC. It feels more along the line. It's as long as the first one, I would say. But it feels more like, oh, this is the same, same.
00:18:26
Speaker
And I get some venom powers at the end. Yeah. Cool. And I can't honestly. And I've tried to replay that that. I used to replay Spider-Man, the first one.
00:18:38
Speaker
yearly for about three years or four years and then spider-man 2 came out and i replayed it for that um yeah no i replayed them yearly for leading up to spider-man 2 remember and then when i got to spider-man 2 haven't replayed them yet again i know that that could be burnt out but like i mean still i i feel like i would have been like oh spider-man you can get through the campaign in 10 hours the the uh one and two so like why i don't have to do all the side stuff which is what i actually skip
Nostalgia and Replaying Classics
00:19:10
Speaker
when i replay it because i'm like i've done it i just need to go through the story but yeah it just didn't didn't stick the land in hopefully like the the third one i don't give a shit if it looks like a different new york show me next gen make a big new york for spider-man to swing through not a little playground version of it
00:19:28
Speaker
ah in interiors and stuff just just make it a new game if you're going to take this long so yeah it's probably a tough one because he only really works in specific places it's not like a wolverine or something that can go like anywhere no so i'm hoping wolverine is i mean wolverine does look really good and it looks more linear so i'm Yeah, I have faith in that. And, you know, they've gone graphic as well. Did you see the trailer?
00:19:55
Speaker
Yes. It's very violent. I'm like, cool. So um I would like them to make a Daredevil game. That would good. um i mean in twenty years But again, Insomniac now feel like they're stuck in making Marvel games. Yeah. ah did there was a Wasn't there a leak that said they were making a they' supposed to be making X-Men games after Wolverine? Yes, I think there was. yeah And then like a Venom game. Up through like 2040 or something. it's like Yeah, which is weird because that leak...
00:20:25
Speaker
um by now you would have thought the Carnage or the Venom DLC sort of type game would have been out, but it's not. And I'm like, surely you would have worked on that enough to have to release it, but it seems like they've scrapped it all.
00:20:37
Speaker
Yeah, because there was a multiplayer game as well. Yeah, it's weird that they had so much planned and they're like, yeah, it's gone now. um but i mean, Wolverine was supposed I mean, that was showed like, what, four years ago? Yeah, no, it takes too long. I'm sorry, it really takes too long. Don't show a game and then make us wait. Yeah, oh my god.
00:20:56
Speaker
that coming? I saw the thing the other day, is like it's almost been the same amount of time since they revealed Elder Scrolls 6 as it was between that and Skyrim beforehand. It's like that.
00:21:08
Speaker
Wait, what, between Oblivion and Skyrim? Well, no, so between Skyrim and... You know they like did that reveal trailer for Elder Scrolls VI. Oh, right, yeah, yeah. Oh, but between that time? Yeah, so it was like eight years between that, and it's almost been seven, and eight years between that. Holy shit.
00:21:25
Speaker
It's too much, isn't it? I mean... i and Talking about Skyrim, I really don't know Bethesda's for me. I've tried it again. and remember coming around yours and playing it when it came out.
00:21:39
Speaker
I tried it again. You had it on the PlayStation 3. I really try it and I just... I just don't know. It's just, I don't understand it Like I get maybe back in the day and I understand that, but honestly I was playing it. And do you know what came to my mind when I was playing? I was like, why the fuck am I not playing the blood and wine DLC on Witcher?
00:22:01
Speaker
No, I think at this point you just had play it. You have to have played it. I think I'm interested in that type of game though, so maybe the next one. But honestly, i just don't think I like Bethesda.
00:22:13
Speaker
I've never gotten with... i I like their worlds and what they look like and how they ah sound and shit. like They sound cool. But and like that's probably why that that TV show I recommended, Everyone Fallout, was so good.
00:22:26
Speaker
yeah And I've definitely watched it since. Yeah. But yeah, like i'd probably I'd much rather just sit and watch the TV shows of them because, yeah, I don't know. There's something about Bethesda that I just can't. And that type of Bethesda, by the way, like the Fallouts and the Skyrims and the Starfields. yeah i just I play them and I'm like, I could play something like this, but better.
00:22:49
Speaker
<unk> i don't know. They just don't sync with me. I don't know what it is. the just They don't do it. No, agree. everyone's ah yeah Everyone's got their own opinion. But yeah, i'm sorry. befes there's thought there's in that there I'm going to bring up something else controversial in this episode. But um we'll get to that on talking about difficulty.
00:23:11
Speaker
But yeah, I think that moment's passed for me.
Comfort Gaming and Graphics Impact
00:23:17
Speaker
I don't think ah I will dive into it because I still need to do Witcher. When I go back, I'm not really getting anything new. It's just just a comfort at this point. Yes, I yeah i understand that.
00:23:29
Speaker
I don't even know. can't even tell you what I do when I go and I just... That's why I play Red Dead 2 still. Yeah, exactly. This is comfort. I like riding around saying, good girl.
00:23:41
Speaker
Good girl. Feeding my horse. Kind of. It's just what I go on for, really. um Yeah, I mean, it's not... I don't know, it's hard to go back because I would say it's the graphics. It's not because I i love old games. like Well, I did. So when I put on... i haven't put on yet, but I'm planning to. When I put on Skyrim, was like, oh, God, it just feels a bit old. And I was like, I don't know if I can be bothered with this. And then I immediately looked over and went to put in the original Bioshock.
00:24:14
Speaker
which is even older, but I want to replay them. But so I think it, it does. It's a fine line, isn't it? Like games that you can go back and play. Yeah. um But I think it also needs to be nostalgic for you, like to sit through Like I couldn't imagine someone picking up Metal Gear today. The first one.
00:24:33
Speaker
No solid. I did like, cause I play it and I'm like, yeah, this is fun. I remember Metal Gear, but. um I wouldn't go, you need to play Metal Gear Solid. it Because I feel like it would be like, oh my God, what the fuck is this? No, you need to. Yeah.
00:24:48
Speaker
But I mean, that's a much more digestible. Yes. and Oh, yeah. Yeah. that's At least it's straightforward, sort of. But yeah but um anyway, we did want to discuss our Platinums, didn't we?
00:25:03
Speaker
Hmm. Yes, and indeed. What is it about it did you want to discuss? Well, I don't know. i just wanted to talk about just the idea of platinum-ing, 100%-ing something, and why why and when you choose to do it.
00:25:19
Speaker
um I was like looking at... Like looking at the history of trophies and it's quite quite interesting. Yeah. um And obviously like the Xbox gamer score and stuff came first and then a trophy, these trophies came out and then, but I think I, yeah, I think I overall prefer this way of doing it. Having that platinum trophy at the end is. Yeah. I don't know why Xbox didn't. Gamerscore or something. Yeah, I don't know why Xbox didn't get on that as well. i wouldn't even have said it would have been copying. It's a nice thing.
00:25:55
Speaker
um i'll be I'll be real. That is the thing that drives me to get it. Like, if there wasn't one and it was just, like, get 100% trophies, i I don't know why, but in my brain, I'm like, I just wouldn't bother.
00:26:07
Speaker
Yeah. No, I think I did did one game 100% on Xbox, and that was Dark Souls 2. Whoa. but I was, like, completed it and i was like, hmm. I mean... You don't get that.
00:26:19
Speaker
ding I will say, though, on... And I can actually back this up with evidence, but... their trophies did come out later on PlayStation 3. I remember there was no trophies for Uncharted. They added them in. Yeah. But the thing is with PlayStation 3, unlike Xbox, is that the interface took a million years to load anything. You have to like manually sync it as well. Yeah. So i I didn't do any... I was not a trophy hunter on PS3. And I'm looking back now, my phone's right next to me, not a single fucking Platinum.
00:26:56
Speaker
through all my years of PS4. I just could not be bothered to look at the trophies. I've got close to a lot of them as I'm looking through, but it was only to when I got to PS4 that I was like, hmm, maybe I can do this.
00:27:08
Speaker
And I know what my first platinum was without even, because I'm scrolling through now and I can't find it. But my first platinum was, um, Uncharted. The, uh, Nathan Drake collection when it came out. The first Uncharted was my first Platinum. Very nice. But I'm getting close to that one.
00:27:27
Speaker
Yeah, it's not that bad to get. I think maybe you didn't play it on Crushing. Yeah. Because that's Dark Souls. Yeah, so I've got like three trophies left. and Go back, Cameron. Do it. I do. Yeah. i didn't Because I didn't play the second game either. Yeah.
00:27:43
Speaker
That's weird because that's the one everyone loves, but I'm also in the same boat as you were. i don't know why. It didn't grab me and it never did. I loved it, but it's it's never like, oh my God, like I still have a real...
00:27:55
Speaker
Yeah, go on. Three had that, like, playing sequence and stuff, and i was like... Yes. I just want to get to that. Yeah. Three was insane. Three probably went too far.
00:28:07
Speaker
Yes. But I love it. It's just fucking insane. But, yeah, I've platinumed all the Uncharted. It's the original trilogy. I couldn't be bothered for the the fourth one because I don't like trophies.
00:28:19
Speaker
that go you need to complete this in a certain amount of time i'm like no i'm good yes that one that one's a fucker that's that stopped you and brad yeah that stopped you and brad getting that one didn't it yeah um but i didn't because like i said i replay them so i was like it's fair enough but it's like it's dirty though yeah it's not needed It is not needed. but yeah i just like Completing a game in a certain amount of time fucks me off.
00:28:47
Speaker
So did you go into that game thinking I'm going to platinum this? Uncharted Uncharted 4? Just say your first platinum, Uncharted. Yes, Uncharted. I had the intention of getting at the platinum.
00:29:02
Speaker
Uncharted is probably my most played game series ever. yeah And I was like, what what would make this game feel new for me? And it was going in and getting the platinum and and playing it on crushing because when I was a kid I was like fuck that but and oh my god playing it on crushing there's a weird difficulty spikes in the first game it was not balanced and yet playing that one on crushing is a bit crushing but yeah I mean i feel like Games that put me off, like you said, replaying it to get the platinum. If we're talking about just getting platinums and trophies, I don't like trophies that are like, now play it again.
00:29:43
Speaker
um Infamous done that. Yeah. I kind of get that more with Infamous because it's good and bad. So it's double up the trophies. Yeah. But also it just pisses me off.
00:29:55
Speaker
I don't want to do it. I think that, yeah, that, yeah the I don't know whether with Uncharted 1 for you it was like um you've you've played it a lot so you just want to like this it's like an older game that didn't have trophies and now it does so it's like proof that i i quite I quite like that with like the um like when they re-released the PS1 and PS2 games and some oh yeah some of them don't.
00:30:24
Speaker
Yeah, that pushed me to do Toy Story 2. Yeah, I was going to say. It like it like is a factor on what which ones I'll play. Because I'm like, hmm. Because also, the the trophy list on those games are usually quite easy. It's just complete every level, basically. Yeah.
00:30:39
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so They started to go a bit more into that, though, now, if you check new ones. Yeah. I think I was doing Syphon Filter, and I did two of those games. I was like, yeah this is good shit. then I just started it with Deus Ex.
00:30:52
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, you've you've started that now. Yeah, I did start it, and then they revealed that they're doing a remaster of it. so i was like Oh, yeah. I thought that, because Brad was telling me to start New Vegas, and I have been, because everyone raves about that one. and But I've heard that might be getting a remaster, or remake. I think they're saying that for you.
00:31:10
Speaker
Yeah, but like I would rather, at this point, I'd rather wait for that. high Yeah, because if that does come out, and I've played the old one, I'd be like, fuck's sake. Yeah, it's not a quick ye again, it's not a quick one to just...
00:31:21
Speaker
No, not like Metal Gear Solid 3. But um yeah, I think like also what does me for like going for the platinum. um There was a time more recently what my mind changed was I actually started looking into games to see if I could obtain the platinum from an early stage.
00:31:41
Speaker
Yes. i um And but that kind of started breaking me on enjoying games because I was trophy hunting um So I have stopped hunting for trophies now, but there's games that I know, like Ghost, when it came out, I was like, I've got the first one, I know I can do this one.
00:31:57
Speaker
um yeah So I didn't even look at the trophies. I looked at the trophies at the end of the game. I didn't care. I was like, and I know I'm going to get around to the platinum. The only thing that I did look, I was like...
00:32:08
Speaker
I always look, is there missable trophies? um But as soon as I saw online, there's no missable trophies. You can get everything at the end of the game. That's what I did. um So it's all like natural because I don't like trophy. I don't now because of that.
00:32:22
Speaker
It's that fucking itch to be like, oh, I need to know if I'm going to miss something. So I've got to look for all the trophies and do them as early as possible. That doesn't add anything to me any anymore. That actually fucks me off.
00:32:34
Speaker
that I used to be like that. But um I think what makes like the push now is if ah my example here is Cyberpunk, because I got the platinum for that, is am I still enjoying the game?
00:32:48
Speaker
And if I am after the story's wrapped up and there's still still stuff to do, I'm going to go for the platinum. That's that's how I see it now. No, I'm with you there. The only time I'll look up a trophy list is if I know there's a missable one or something like that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, same. Because I think there was a missable one in some big game. And then I was like, it was like,
00:33:14
Speaker
20 hours in of a fucking 40 hour game or something and you like miss a trophy and then you can't go back guys because you've just said that that's just reminded me of the worst platinum i've seen um and i wanted to go for it but hogwarts legacy yeah the fuck's design choice was that i've just i started playing that a bit last night why what's what's the issue with it um i mean i had platinum in it in my head but No, I want to, and I can do it. oh you need to do You need to do the intro, at least five hours playtime of each house.
00:33:49
Speaker
So that's 20 hours. Can you not save? there is a though There was a way around it, so I'll look into that. I think you can save so you can skip the intro bit and the salt and hat part.
00:34:02
Speaker
Yeah. But still, you then need to go through that area, so then there's still three more hours to play. Right. Yeah, didn't remember that. Okay. You need to go to basically the first puzzle area. Yeah. It was like reach the whatever chamber as a Slytherin, reach it as a Gryffindor. And I'm like, are you... See, in my head now, I'm like, I don't even want to play this now.
00:34:23
Speaker
I never completed it. But I wanted to complete it because I've been watching Harry Potter. i was like, okay, cool. We'll go into this. I'll show Kim this. We'll show of Hogwarts. um not to Not to put a downer on it, but I...
00:34:35
Speaker
fucking hated the story as well by the time I was done yeah I'm not interested yeah by the time I was done I was like fuck you it is a really good game but the story yes and the side stuff's good and being in Hogwarts I don't know what the fuck's going on in the story no I can't tell you i've I finished it but I punished myself i was like just need to finish it so I can get to the good stuff and then i but then I got to the end and I went I don't want to play anymore I have also really recently reinstalled because I'm like, well, maybe I can go back and do some of that side stuff I didn't do.
00:35:07
Speaker
Yeah. but guess, yeah, because I was like looking through my, tree and this was going to be another question I ask you. Do you ever look through your trophy list and be like, hmm, I'm close to that. Yes. Could do. Yeah, I do that all the time. There's there's games on PS3 that I look at and go, hmm, fuck it. just this is what this is what's sick. Terminator Salvation, i have one trophy to get, and it's just play the game on hard.
00:35:32
Speaker
And that's that's a platinum. yeah That's the last trophy I need to get. And there's been many dark days where I'm like, should I go through that game? Yeah.
00:35:43
Speaker
But no. I don't know if if you like glimpse through. Is there one that you're like very close to, but you just haven't got? and probably won't I'm looking at the Avengers. Oh yeah, that but that one would be, um, one that I'm quite close to as well is Detroit, but that's like a very cinematic heavy game. So I don't want to play it four more times, um, to, to get, cause you have to play it differently at different parts of the game to get a different bit magazine or something.
00:36:15
Speaker
Right. Um, ah I actually have like Assassin's Creek 2. I'm looking for them now, but yeah i you too i'm I've done um and done both Ghost Recons and I went into Breakpoint by myself um to finish that up. But i was I was really enjoying that once all the updates came out.
00:36:36
Speaker
yeah um I thought it was really good. but I don't know why they made a stealth action game turn into a looter shooter gear score. but they did. um i Rewind that. totally Yeah. I mean, I see a lot of Ubisoft games, to be honest. I'm quite close on Rainbow Six Siege.
00:36:53
Speaker
For Honor, i did. Honor was at one of legendary scale and timing. Yeah. think I got that two, three years ago. but That's like five years, six years in. That was a long... Yeah, that was a longer ah long... That was the one that I always looked on the list and i was like I can do this, but it's going to fucking...
00:37:12
Speaker
that I mean, put it this way, when I did it, we didn't play for a year. And we've we've only just played now. But the last time we played it was probably back in January or December last year.
00:37:23
Speaker
Yeah. Because I think it said like 11 months on my last played. Yes. and I fucking i still love For Honor but yeah that the Platinum was that's shit that makes me want to be like when I'm playing games I'm like should I just try and get this trophy now or try and get this Platinum now because I know if I try and come back to this it's just I'm not gonna not yeah enjoy it yeah i mean if we weren't still playing For Honor multiplayer would have never have got that Yeah, no, me too. Me too. If we weren't still into I wouldn't have. It was just because I was so close. The only things I had left was deploying the troops and the skirmish matches and then everything else was campaign.
00:38:03
Speaker
But i was quite lucky to get all that stuff. um I will say you a fucking trophy that I've always been. I always look at it and go I can do it. But know I can't. I've got... Some are deceptive. Yeah, I've got ah like four trophies, five trophies in total, but the other two are like from campaign, so I don't care about. Star Wars Battlefront 2.
00:38:22
Speaker
I've got, there there's three trophies and they're all to do with ah the Starfighter assault or whatever it's called, the flying mode. But one of them is defeat 25 hero ships with fighter ships, so normal ships.
00:38:34
Speaker
But also, you've got like 12 other people in the match shooting that hero ship and you have to land the final shot. Yeah. I think multiplayer ones are ridiculous. yeah I was like looking up Friday the 13th and it was like, play as Jason 1,000 times. I'm like, are you... Are you feeling like... What world has anyone... I want to see if someone has that trophy because I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, no, that's... but If you think, you play as Jason like once a week, a night or a couple of night it's like that's a thousand nights.
00:39:12
Speaker
A thousand nights over my... If that, that, because I rarely played as Jason. Yeah, I probably played as him like 10, probably like max 40 times.
00:39:23
Speaker
That's for the... thus' Has anyone got the plan? good I don't know. Fuck me. I had a PSN profile that was looking Friday. Thursday.
00:39:36
Speaker
I tell you what also gets me like wanting to platinum, and it's kind of the competitive side, I would guess, is when like you guys have got a platinum or you're trophy hunting something, that always triggers my brain.
00:39:50
Speaker
And it's not to be like, oh, I've got it too, or before you. It's just like, oh, yeah, we've we've all gone for the platinum. Like... um I keep getting it with Metal Gear Solid Della.
00:40:01
Speaker
Yeah. But I just don't want to. Yeah. Like, you got it and Brad got it and i was like, oh, shit, I should really get the Platinum. That one was a strange one for me because I was like... i I played it before and I completed it.
00:40:14
Speaker
Yeah. then But to to get the Platinum, you have to play it twice, basically. um And I was basically playing... played half of it with like a guide. so i It was i was playing it, but I wasn't playing it.
00:40:28
Speaker
You were just there. you i wasn't and I enjoyed the process of getting everything and like unlocking everything. yeah I remember like when I first played it, whenever it was, um like the thought of unlocking everything was like, vice that's just stupid.
00:40:44
Speaker
yeah But it actually was quite manageable, unlike Metal Gear Solid 2. well Well, I'll tell you what, the trophy that does pain me, like out of all of them, is um Red Dead 2. I'm never getting it.
00:40:59
Speaker
it's It's not happening. that that I feel like at that point, if I go for that, and I love the game, i that would make me hate the game. Yeah, there's this guy there's this guy that does like platinum videos, and I think he took him 200 and something hours. But you're above that.
00:41:16
Speaker
Yeah. It's just because you're not like... Yeah, you're not like rad-bradding it and going super efficient. Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, no, it's... I play that game like it's my real life simulator and I'm just walking through things and taking in the scenery and doing stuff that makes sense. But I think there's like, you have to earn gold in all the story missions. And it like it says right here, earn 70 gold medals in story missions. 70. These missions are not short. Uh-huh.
00:41:47
Speaker
The game's a long game. I know. and And it's just... like There's like one like this. survive I mean, it's it's doable, but it's like, okay, what the fuck? is Survive three days holding a bounty of $250 in all states.
00:42:05
Speaker
Why? i just... ah Spend $5,000 across all shops. I'm sure that's easy. like you can At the end of the game, you can just spend all your money. yeah um But it's just like...
00:42:18
Speaker
I don't fucking get it. Deliver five camp companion item requests. So they ask you for things throughout the game. yeah But there's no real fucking hint where you can find that stuff unless I go online and you meet the character at the exact right time for them to go, Arthur,
00:42:35
Speaker
I'm missing my harmonica or some shit like that. And then you have to go and find it. That's the thing I don't understand and don't really like is when it's like, oh, you to get this platinum in any reasonable time, you have to look at a guide.
00:42:48
Speaker
Yeah. like So I couldn't enjoy the game. on That world. Yeah. It's like the same in GTA five. Remember GTA five had these things all yeah around the world. And it was like, find these eight hats. And they'd be like, yeah. Yeah.
00:43:02
Speaker
them in the most like random places yeah so like these games like you have to look up guides but then it makes me wonder how the fuck do these guys get these guides out so quick that's what confuses me is like how did you find this on release day what what do you what are you doing yeah But yeah, gta sorry Red Dead, like you played part of it, so you go through different camps throughout the game.
00:43:28
Speaker
And if you miss that camp, you then miss that item. yeah Because the games the game world has progressed, so it changes. So I'm like, what why would you do that to me? it just it like get What the fuck is this trophy? sorry what is this trophy Survive bear attacks and the... Why?
00:43:48
Speaker
Jesus Christ, yeah. Why? what do you mean survive? So I need the bear to hit me on the floor, shake me about, and then I need to kill 18 times.
00:44:03
Speaker
it's ridiculous I don't that's not fun but going on to why we get platinums this is why I avoid them that is not fun but simple as that is not a fun thing to do um skin every species of animal what or the fuck ye why because at the same time it's study every animal i get that one but then you have to skin them why It's just too much. It's it's it's silly. i'm i'm I'm getting annoyed looking at it.
00:44:38
Speaker
What? I think of there is a trophy to 100%. Yeah, 100% the game. and it's just and then they And then, just to fucking kick you in the balls, there's also online trophies in a game that they killed the online for.
00:44:52
Speaker
If you're going to kill the online, take out the online trophies. And also, if you're going have a game like Red Dead or GTA, just have single-player trophies. And have online trophies as a separate bit, which doesn't count towards the platinum, I would say. Sorry, someone's at my door. One second. They're at the door! Go!
00:45:07
Speaker
Back in. Sorry. What was at the door? I just gave George a shout out because he asked us to go play ARC. Oh, goodness. Later, George. later Later. Later, when we're done recording. Please leave us alone. You'll hear it tomorrow and we'll be there. come By the time you listen to this tomorrow, we'll probably be playing.
00:45:30
Speaker
ah So, a quick trivia for you. How many people do you actually think got that players 1,000 people matches but as Jason? Because I've got the answer. 0.3%. Yeah, well, no. Actually, 0.63%. 0.63%. 1,400 people. Almost the same amount as...
00:45:47
Speaker
zero point six through one thousand four hundred people almost the same amount as Wait, its so it is actually a thousand... When did this game come out? 2017. Okay, because you can see some people got it in 2017.
00:46:06
Speaker
Like, a lot of people. it came out in May or June as well. ah that's kind of wild, actually. Maybe, actually, these are... Developers?
00:46:17
Speaker
Oh, no, they're the latest achievements. so No, I don't know. There's like 50 people that got it between June September 2017. Okay. June and September?
00:46:29
Speaker
Yeah. They were just going in as um Jason. Was that even possible? Yeah, I guess it was. I mean, yeah, and you could just bash out, couldn't you? but Fucking hell. That's but scary, to be honest.
00:46:47
Speaker
They must have flight. By time you get that trophy, let's just say the rounds can last half an hour, right? Yeah. So in 500 hours minimum, probably, you would have got that trophy.
00:47:01
Speaker
Yeah. If you were just playing as Jason. Yeah. Should we go and do it? um Yeah. mean It's been a while. Let's stop playing for the next year.
00:47:16
Speaker
come into um yeah that's just yeah they'll play anything and every time we come home we'll play that m does it surprise you that we have more hours on that than Battlefield 6
00:47:30
Speaker
No.
00:47:32
Speaker
Is that because that one was real fun? I don't know. We'll probably... What's the next? Oh, Halloween's coming out. Can't wait for that. Bring the gang back together. probably that Maybe they'll make it the best one yet.
00:47:47
Speaker
Should I tell you what my first platinum was? Yeah, i'm intrigued. Should I guess? I don't think you'll guess, but yeah, go on.
00:47:57
Speaker
Oh, no, it won't be that. But one of your first ones must have been Division with me. That was my second one, I think, or third one. How you seeing this? No, no. Okay, Ratchet & Clank was my second.
00:48:11
Speaker
Which Ratchet & Clank? The 2016 one. Ooh, I haven't got that.
00:48:18
Speaker
God, yeah, and then it was Division, I think. Yeah, boy. First one was Guacamelee. Yeah. I remember you playing them and i was like, what are you doing? And then you had a platinum and i was like, what are you doing?
00:48:30
Speaker
Yeah. This is one where I'm very close on the second one, but there's a fucking ridiculous trophy. It's one of those games that if you don't, ah you need to like, I can't just go back to it and pick it up and be like, I'm good at this game.
00:48:45
Speaker
Like... I hate those. yeah yeah It's always the side-scrollers as well, isn't it? where you're like You start getting used to them and then when you take a break and come back, you're like, fuck, I need to learn it all again.
00:48:57
Speaker
But I have been reached with dilemma. Whilst there's a way I was playing Hades 2 on the Steam deck. Ooh, it's good. like Yeah, it's very good. And I was like... Does this have cross-save? Must have cross-save. Has cross-save our buyer on PlayStation? No, cross-save. Has cross-save between the Switch, but not the PlayStation. Why? The first one has cross-save. Oh, wait, no, that's because Hades 2 isn't on PlayStation yet.
00:49:20
Speaker
Oh, is it not? No. that would be your That's your dilemma. But when it comes your dilemma but when when it comes out, because I wanted to get it too, but the only place I could get it was my Steam Deck.
00:49:33
Speaker
Sneaky bastards. and Is it on Xbox? I don't know Yeah, I just don't. It's not on PlayStation yet. Oh, I see. Okay, and that makes sense. Because, yeah, the full game is out now because it was in like beta for a couple of years. where they do So I was like, cool, I'll play this.
00:49:52
Speaker
Very, very good. Maybe, okay. But now I'm seeing it may not come and for until 2027. Yeah. Why? Okay, fantastic. Why?
00:50:03
Speaker
Why? I just completed it. Yeah, but why? Because Indiana Jones came out not even a year after PlayStation. don't know. Very strange. Which I wish that's what I waited for, but I thought, oh, it's going to be a year or two. Nope, six months.
00:50:18
Speaker
I was like, fantastic. Thanks. Isn't it on? No, it's not on. Where did it? No. I was confusing someone. Um... Okay, so Hades 2 will be no platinum.
00:50:32
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. was looking at the list on Steam and I was like, this is actually reasonable. Yeah. do this um one that Also, another one that breaks me is when you know like trophies are glitched, but you don't know that at the time.
00:50:49
Speaker
like um i got that with mass effect and i think the trophies were glitched at the time and it's like i can't remember what it was but it was it was something about um do most of the game like complete most of the objectives or something yeah and i did i'm telling you fucking now i did searched those planets like ah I just, yeah, i I played it for so long, the first Mass of Effect.
00:51:15
Speaker
And that was actually, I think that was actually my first time finishing the first Mass Effect on the Legendary Edition, or whatever it's called. But um yeah, so, but that's the last trophy I got.
00:51:27
Speaker
And... Yeah, i I don't... Like, I'll probably... When I, like, eventually play it again, I'll get that. But at the time, when I didn't get it, was like, you fuckers.
00:51:39
Speaker
Because it was the last one I needed. I was like, you're fucking sick. I got the one for the second one, and I haven't played the third one again yet. But and they they're they're fun to go through. they're Like... They're also, they feel, they're the kind of Platinums I like. They're like, play the game to its fullest. Not to its hardest, or play it twice, or you're going to miss some stuff. it's it's It's mostly play the game to its fullest and you won't miss it.
00:52:04
Speaker
Yeah. um I know that there might be some sneaky ones in there, potentially, but most of it is just play the game to its fullest. And and I think they're the Platinums I like.
00:52:15
Speaker
Yeah, play to its fullest without... yeah you're kidding me yeah because i mean hell divers 2 was a fun one um to do i enjoyed that um cyberpunk was a fun one the one i didn't enjoy is i had to witness all four maybe six endings i don't know how many there is but i actually sat there and just went through them all in an evening yeah um but it's just doing the last mission over and over again in different ways and i'm like why did you do this i don't think you need that it's not really fun No, I don't, because I would like to see the other endings, but I think they would have hit more if I yeah play the again. Yeah, should be an additional challenge if you're...
00:52:52
Speaker
Yeah, yeah okay like a lot of games do. Do you know when they add bonus trophies? Yeah. That should always be that sort of stuff like play the game again should be to get 100% but not the platinum. That's what I would change.
00:53:05
Speaker
Yes, I agree. Because Uncharted does that. They've done that right off the bat. it was I think there was a mode called Brutal Mode above crushing and I was like, I'm not doing that. Yeah, so I wasn't doing that and I will never do that but I've got the platinum for them and that's where I can leave it.
00:53:22
Speaker
so but uh yeah i mean i think that's what i would do to i mean jedi survivor almost broke me yeah um but i enjoyed it i will say that i did it you and again you can get it within the first playthrough more so i don't care um like yeah like the first god of war where i'm like i'm not Yes.
00:53:47
Speaker
God of all Ragnarok is fine because you can kind of teleport between places more easily. But the first one, those ravens, you've got to like teleport here and then walk for 20 minutes to get to this raven. Yeah. Was it also easier to track in Ragnarok? I feel like it was. Yeah. Yeah. Like they had numbers next to it.
00:54:04
Speaker
Yeah. Which, you know, is really helpful. But the first one was like, we're going to waste your time. Yeah, because i've i've I've done the hard part in the first game. I've killed the fucking fury, the fates. and Yeah.
00:54:18
Speaker
Now, but I can't get it just because I don't want to backtrack across miles. of Yeah, they're they're kind of the ones that piss you off, aren't they? Because like when you return to a game, you're oh yeah, i can I can get that platinum, and you do return.
00:54:31
Speaker
You're like, oh, it's these sort of trophies. And it's the mind numbing ones when you're already done with the game. Yes. And then you're like, fuck, and then you can't be bothered and then you never go. Because I've had that problem. I want to replay the first God of War.
00:54:43
Speaker
um But I always have the problem in my head. Like it's it's always constant. Every time I go to play, it I'm like, I can't start new game plus yet because I haven't completed the the game to its fullest yet.
00:54:55
Speaker
Or got the platinum. But then once I do that and I can i kill... Are they called the Banshees? I can't remember what they're called. Valkyries. yeah um Once I kill them, i know I'm going to be done with the game again.
00:55:08
Speaker
And then I'll be like, oh, I haven't played the game again. yeah i had i Yeah. I have that same issue now when I get to like... I'm like, I don't want to go New Game Plus until I've done it all.
00:55:19
Speaker
Because what I did... The Witcher 3 when I played it. I completed it. yeah And then did the first DLC. No, I completed it and then was like quite a high level but I hadn't finished everything and then I knew Gameplust and then I was like playing quite a bit and then they released the DLC and I was like, fuck.
00:55:39
Speaker
um Yeah. It's like shit. Yeah. No, I hate that as well. Really? Yeah. But I mean, there's a lot of games. Like when you look back, this is what like annoys me. And like, there's so many games I am so close. Like, I would say Guardians of the Galaxy I was close to, um the Kaleso Protocol, even though like I'm very close to them. But the the the bad thing is, because I didn't look at the trophies and I wasn't intending to get a platinum, it's always like, pick up all ah data cards or pick up this piece of paper that you missed. Find all outfits. And I'm like...
00:56:18
Speaker
Is that the only trophy I have left and you didn't fucking give me the place? Yeah, those trophies are just shit. No one wants to go around and find every little bit and collect it I don't like those ones. No.
00:56:30
Speaker
Those are annoying. Especially when there's thousands of things to collect. Yeah, i agree. um They're just, yeah, they're no good. ah But um yeah, I think to run this down of like what I like in the Platinum is just as long as I'm enjoying the game and it doesn't want to waste my time and then I'm all good.
00:56:53
Speaker
yeah um and if i'm close to it and i like like let's take guardians for example now that i know that i will replay it one day and i'll go for it and there'll be no problem but it's it gets more annoying when you you see it and you're afterwards and you're like well i can't get that now like it's the only trophy that that you have left and you're like fuck i can't get that now but i was so close but i don't want to play you again yet so i quite like that there's like things that it's like a reason to go back sometimes Yeah, exactly. Especially when you're feeling in a... like You don't really do anything You you just want to... kind of Even if it is a bit mind-nummy, just go and do it.
00:57:29
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And then... You get the ding. and Yeah, I mean, looking at my trophies, I do like to get... If I'm playing, like, a certain game, like, let's say Spider-Man, I wanted to get the Platinum for Miles Morales, and I wanted to get it for Spider-Man too. Like, I do have that in my head as well.
00:57:48
Speaker
If I'm going through series like Jedi... i got fallen order and survivor like i i will i can see that's like a pattern that i have like ghost recon i got both of them the division i haven't let go and that game's almost 10 years old and i the only trophy i got left after brad helped me is to do the game on hard so i'll be going through that at some point but at least i know that's the only trophy i got left like just to finish the game on hard yeah when you got one left and it's like that then and And I wanted to replay anyway. And I was replaying it, but i was replaying it with my dad. So all the missions were on easy or the the first level, because you can only play, if you're playing them for the first time, you can only play them on the normal difficulty.
00:58:29
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um So yeah, that also put me off because I put in like 40 more hours with my dad. And then I was like, fuck. I don't want to ah don't want to play these on hard again yet. So, yeah. I mean, but it was much more fun just to play a game with to be fair, than get the Platinum. But I'll get it some point. is is this fun It's fine. It's there.
00:58:49
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Division 3 comes out. Yeah. When when they announce that, I'll do it. There you go. Division 3. fair
00:58:59
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um So yeah, I guess to finish off, is there any, due what what do you, what do you anticipate your next platinum being? Oh, I actually have that. What was it? um ah fuck Hold on, let me look at my games, I think.
00:59:14
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Oh, I was going to try. I'll see how I'll go into it But was I just got the Destroy Human games again. um And I actually want to try and do that one. And I heard, i will look into it because I haven't looked into it. But I heard Red Dead Redemption, the first one, because it's just come on PS++. plus plus I was like, can I do this one?
00:59:35
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But I don't know what that platinum holds for me, so I'll let you know. But, yeah, I mean, I'm kind of going through Ark Raiders, but I don't think I will.
00:59:46
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No, was looking at those yesterday. there um Yeah, they get a bit shit. Like ah the finals. I think there's one like yeah kill people with a fucking grenade off a plant pot or some shit. ah but You can kind of do it. It's like there's like ones that is like play a hundred times as each of the classes. or or say hundred Oh, what on finals? Yeah. You need to win 150 games per character. And I still haven't done that at 350 hours.
01:00:14
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Yeah, i was gonna be I was like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. So I haven't done that yet. yeah um And I think there's like, regardless of that, I think there's like one where you have to get a certain amount of cash throughout your career. And I think I'm, I'll be generous. I think I'm 20% something like that into it now.
01:00:33
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But after 320, 325, 350 hours, it's a bit, three hundred twenty five three hundred and fifty hours is is a bit
01:00:40
Speaker
Yeah. I don't want to do that. Oh, I went back and done Titanfall 2 this year as well. That was fun. Because I haven't... i Again, i was meaning to replay that. But playing it, I think it was on the hardest difficulty and there was some fucking arse bits and I was just like, I can't be bothered.
01:00:59
Speaker
But I already collected most of the pilot helmets on my first playthrough by looking at it. but Delicious. yeah there's just Yeah, some games, if i again, like you said, you you look back, don't you, and you go, i can I can do that. And then it's on the replay that you get them. And that happens a lot. I'm on the second go. But I'm kind of, I'm over platinum hunting.
01:01:20
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But like if I'm, you know, going into a game like Destroy Humans, I've played so many times, that's like a reason to do that game. So yeah, there are still games that will get me and I want to platinum them. But as far as it there was a point in time, I think it was actually recent. It was probably this year or the year before as well, where I would start a game with the intention to platinum it. Yeah.
01:01:41
Speaker
And i yeah, that's not, that's not what I want to do anymore. It's not a good, not a good place to be. Yeah. Yeah. I think realistically my, you know, I was like, I'm very close to doing the Assassin's Creed 2 one.
01:01:57
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I've been playing it like throughout the year on and off. I'll race you. Yeah. I had this like thing in my head. I'm like, it would be cool to like platinum every one of those games. Yeah, that's what I had with Uncharted. Three, four, five.
01:02:11
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Syndicate. You just kept going. Like all of those original ones, that would be quite cool. And I don't that... I mean, none of them are that bad. No, I think, like I said to you, the last one I completed was Syndicate. yeah that in my head was the reason because I want to replay Syndicate but my head I'm like it'd be cool to go through them yeah do them I actually really enjoyed I liked all of them up until that point I started 3 was like this is long but 3 feels the longest because of what they've done
01:02:46
Speaker
yeah It feels the longest and the most epic in ways. like it's ah It's a weird game to take. But I finally got past the beginning of the chart. And now you're on Connor. goodness And then as soon as I got to Connor I stopped playing. Yeah, that's what happens to me every time and I fucking love that game. But like when you get to Connor you're like, I'm tired boss. And then you go through another tutorial yeah to see Connor's life.
01:03:09
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yeah And then him young, hes he's young for a while as well, like two or three sequences. Yeah. And then my thing with that game is jesus I play it and I'm like, God, i I'd probably just rather be playing Black Flag because it's like so similar in game gameplay. And I'm like, I'm not really there. i mean, i am um the story's cool, but um I know the story by this point. So I'm not there to kind of like,
01:03:36
Speaker
witness the story for the first time again I agree with that like from a gameplay point of view putting on Black Flag is much more engaging than you're like I'm here my fucking six pistols yeah but I would I prefer the setting and everything of 3 for me so like I do prefer 3 overall but no Black Flag if I know I'm putting on Black Flag I'm gonna have a good time straight away no I agree But, yeah, I mean, the the ship combat was cool, and then they made Skull and Bones. Who the fuck is leading? Who's leading Ubisoft? What are they doing? Like, and you... They even ship combat in the fucking Odyssey.
01:04:12
Speaker
Yeah. In Skull and Bones. I mean, me and you have now given up on Splinter Cell after that article we saw the other day, where it was like, the remake director is back on board. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? We're getting the remake of Black Flag.
01:04:26
Speaker
Are we? Yeah. We are. Is it real? but no That seems to be strong. yeah like there was a lot of leaks in it but again there was for Red Dead 2 and then it's still not fucking I don't know why that's not I've umve we've now we didn't have Red Dead Assassin's Creed Unity 60 FPS would be nice that would be great because then we can do the car up again fuck that's the one I actually want to play the most me too but it's always fucking it's the one that runs like shit still it's like come on they skipped it and went to Syndicate I'm like why did you do that
01:05:04
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Yeah. What's annoying is on Xbox you can play at 60 FPS but my disc is fucked.
01:05:12
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. and then That's true. That's true. but yeah very well yeah um anything else to say no i think this is long enough this one um i do have more but we can discuss that another time we've got plenty of weeks we have got plenty of weeks but hopefully we live for at least another three weeks i don't know What, to the New Year's? this I was thinking we'll record, yay ah yeah. the
01:05:45
Speaker
We'll probably do our top ten movies in a couple of weeks. I think... Like, from the week of the 5th, when's Avatar coming out? I think that's the it's the Friday, it's the 19th that that's coming out.
01:05:56
Speaker
Okay, we can record, like, the next Monday something. Yeah, we can record during the week or something. Really? So Boxing Day special. Yes. For all of our listeners. Yes, Boxing Day. On the boxing. Yes, and that'll probably round off the year, I assume.
01:06:13
Speaker
But we we we shall see. And then, yeah. That'll probably be the last one the year. Yeah, next week. that what How many weeks we got left then? One, two, three more. Three more podcasts for the year. Three more podcasts of the year. And then good good onto a new millennium.
01:06:29
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<unk> o right George we're coming we're coming he's on till 7.30 let's get him on the ski that yeah he's on now they are now you can hop on I'm gonna no I wasn't gonna go straight on oh I'm not going straight on I'm cooking dinner sorry George yard you're gonna get this news now but tomorrow we're cooking dinner yeah I'm cooking dinner now George see in 10 minutes yeah look forward no and not 10 minutes but maybe 10 minutes tomorrow depending on what time you listen to this yeah We'll be there.
01:07:01
Speaker
Yeah. We're not going to tell you now. We're just going to show up. Yeah. And you'll know. Yeah. Okay. Thanks, George. Probably very soon, but you'll hear this later.
01:07:13
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All right. Happy Hanukkah. Bye. Merry Christmas.