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Superman Vs Fantastic more or snore? - Episode #1
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Kimonos are on and the gloves are off. We discuss the new Superman and Fantastic Four films.
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Introduction and Fizzy Drink Preferences
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I don't even like that drink. What was it? i'llquir it down um Coke Zero. but Oh yes. I've been drinking too much.
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Zeros. so i don't Too many zeros. Too much fizzy drinks. Zeros. Yeah, so I literally opened cracked that open just for this. to You know, because what we've not done this for like a week or...
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ah Yeah, it's been like a week, I think. yeah, we're back. Haven't seen you in a week. Yeah, that's true. Maybe a little bit longer, but yeah. Sitting right next to each other.
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Pandemic's over in a week.
Pandemic Speculations and Zack Snyder's Justice League
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Yep, that's true. What else has happened?
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Engagement in a week. Maybe, depending on how we feel, Marvel and DC are making good films again? Potentially. That's happened in a week.
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Who knows? We're about to find out. We're talking about Zack Snyder's cut of the Justice League. Yeah, that one that we watched during COVID. Or was it even during COVID? don't remember.
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And the 2015 Fantastic Four. Yes, Fan4stick. That came out last week. Fan4stick. Fan4stick, yeah. Yeah. That one, yeah.
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um Excellent. And actually, not the Zack Snyder cut, the... ah The normal Justice League. john Yes, yes, yes. That one. I see. Did we go to cinema for that?
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The Justice League? Yeah. and I don't know. I feel like we did. feel like we wasted so much time. i Yeah, I'm not sure. I can't remember going to the cinema for it. I don't think... God. It was long anyway. so Anyway, did you want to start with the quiz?
Superhero Quiz: 'Is This Even Real?'
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I think you need to introduce yourself first. Oh, who do I want to be? No, who are you? Not who do you want to be?
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um i'll i am um no I feel like that'll give it away. I'll start. Yeah, you start. I'm Mr. Terrific like because he looks most like me.
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I'm Mr. Fantastic because he looks most like me. Okay. Excellent. Nice to see you, Reed. Richard. Nice to see you, Mr. Terrific.
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Ripping off my name. who We'll start with a with a little introductory quiz to get back into the the old swing of things. And this quiz is called, Is This Even Real?,
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Okay. So the rules of this quiz are i'm going to read you 10 names, and for each of them, you need to tell me, are they a real or fake villain? And if they are real, are they a Fantastic Four or Superman villain? Ooh, okay.
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There are a couple on here that are real that aren't either of those villains, so... Oh, so they could be like a Spider-Man villain or yeah something. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
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So take both questions. So take is it real or fake separately from Fantastic Four or Superman? Okay. We're going to roll into it with a bit of an introductory jam.
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I thought that was a car.
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Is this even real?
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Excellent. Did that get you soaking wet? It did. honestly was... i thought I left my window open. I was like, oh shit, I forgot. And I going to be like, Cameron, I'm in Mr. Terrific.
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Whoa! Okay, go on. Okay, number one. The Condiment King.
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Real fake?
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Real. Real. Okay. And which villain? ah Which superhero do you think they belong to?
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Fantastic Four?
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No. You're correct, though. that They are a real villain. A costumed criminal who uses ketchup and mustard guns. Yeah, I thought that. But who is it for?
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A Batman villain. Yes. Yes. Okay, fair enough. Second one. Bouncing Boy. A hero turned occasional nuisance who inflates like a beach ball.
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If you've put this much effort into fake people. Bouncing Boy? Yeah. um Fake. Okay. And Fantastic Four or Superman?
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Or someone else? Like...
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I would say someone else, but I don't know if it is if it even isn is real. Did you say real or fake? I said fake. Okay. It's real.
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Fuck. Who do you think? It's Fantastic Four Superman. I'll give you that. Oh, okay. I would say Fantastic Four then. It's not going to be, is it, though? No. Superman.
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ah I need to go back to fucking reading comics.
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numb Say, third one. yeah Crypto Koala. um Real or fake? Crypto Koala? Well, Crypto's the dog.
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You can't say... um there's The thing is with this, you're saying real or fake, I feel like all of them, have like they they probably are real. like that when you what it What was the first one called?
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The first one was um Condiment King. Yeah, like that's so stupid it has to be real. um Crypto Koala, though, I'm going to just say it's not real, but it would belong to Superman.
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Correct, it's fake. But yes, I would i would say Superman. yeah We'll do two more. like okay Captain Carrot, a superhero rabbit from another dimension.
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<unk> That sounds like... What was his name? The Duck? Harold? Is it Harold Duck? um Is that the guy that was in Guardians of the Galaxy?
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oh yeah i know you mean it sounds like something like that yeah i'm just looking it up you're looking it up does that mean how would the duck how would the duck that's what i'm not harold um so sorry what was this one called carrot captain carrot a rabbit from another dimension I'm going to say no, it's not real, but I would say it would belong to, but with the new Superman, I would say that because that's like, that went fucking crazy. But because you said another dimension, I'm going to go for, don't know, they both kind of delved into that, didn't they? But I'll say Fantastic Four just to make it different.
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So it is real from the Superman multiverse. Yeah. Oh my God. So I would have, I would have got that right if I went with the side that was like, Oh, just because of the new film, I feel like it could be real.
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Okay. Final one. Pasty pot Pete. He uses a glue gun to trap heroes.
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I feel like you made that one up. That sounds like a ah well words that you would just come out with. Is that your final answer? Yeah.
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Are you sure? Yes, but do i have to still say who it belongs to? Tell me who you think it belongs to. Wait, Pasty Pot Pete, what does he do again? He uses a high-tech glue gun to trap heroes.
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yeah
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It can't be real, and if it is, he shouldn't be real. Mm-hmm. But he might... I'm going to say he's not real, but what what did you... And it could be anyone. in It might not even be a Fantastic Four villain or Superman one. You might have done me.
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i'm I'm going to say it belongs to no one and he doesn't exist. Who would you think it would belong to if he did exist? Someone that shoots people with glue guns. Probably fucking Batman again. No, Batman has too many pav villains. Um...
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out of Out of Superman and Fantastic Four, I'd probably lean more towards Fantastic Four. Because glue guns, I feel like, could stiffen up Reed Richards, you know. and yeah stick up look That could do a lot, actually.
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You could see Invisible Woman if you glue her up. You could take out Johnny's flames and make the rock all stick together. All of his rocks stick together. So it's quite a good...
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one big sticky family. God, now I'm thinking it's real. That's the ultimate villain. The ultimate villain for the Fantastic Four. Fuck Dr. Doom in the next movie. It needs to be him.
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What's his name? Pasty Pete? Pasty Pot. that's That's fake. I'm sorry. It can't be real. Okay, it's real, and it's Fantastic Four. No, it's I just... No fucking way. I'm looking it up. was going to say, look it up.
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No fucking way. Pasty Pop. I even come to the conclusion that he was the ultimate villain. Yes. So that was his original name. He's now called the Trapster, but he was called Pasty Pop Pete back in the Golden Age. Yes.
00:10:29
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Oh, that's so annoying because now... yeah now he is called the Traps the Shit. He looks quite cool. just thought of like one of our fucking DT teachers a hot glue gun. I didn't think of this.
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Showing us how to make a box. Yeah, he's definitely... He is quite cool. Yeah. No, he could fuck up a lot of people. A hot glue gun. Yeah.
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you know that would fucking destroy you? Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I'm just reading about it. He's seen a lot. Has he won against Spider-Man?
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He looks like he should be in the Spider-Man cartoon. That's what he gives me vibes of. God. Yeah, no that's what I felt like. like What's the fucking... no, I just found a real impression him.
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Big Will? Who's Big Will? Is it not Spider-Man? Yeah, Big Will. Type in Big Will Spider-Man. she I should have saved that for you
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Yes, there is a villain called Big Will. A wheel? And oh my god, his actual name is Jackson Will. Jackson Will.
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Oh, that's fantastic. Like W-I-L-L. No, W-E-E-L-E. Oh, like a wheel. Yeah, wheel. That's...
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Jackson will. God. Okay. When we go, when we do another superhero one, we'll, I'll have to test you on that. Yeah, please do. Right. So I wanted to, before we, so I got all of those correct before we move on.
Superman Film Analysis and Ratings
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But yeah, um before we like get into talking about what we like on, on the actual movie, I wanted to ask you like, I want you to guess if I liked Superman yeah Or if I didn't, and I'll do the same for you, and then we'll do about the Fantastic Four.
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Okay. So umm good I'm going to start and say you did like Superman. Yeah. is is Is this correct? correct But hold on.
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Where are you placing it on the star chart? Is this the letterbox, the five? Yeah. I gave it... No, where do you think I gave it? always Oh, do you think... Oh, I think you gave it
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I don't think you loved it, but you liked it, and I think you would have given it four with that, so you think it's very good and good direction. Yeah. Yeah? like Four? ah No, I gave i gave it a five stars.
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Whoa! Really? Yes. That's good. i love That's good. Yeah, that's good. that's good Okay. um What do you think about me, then?
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I'm
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um going to go four and a half.
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Four. That is... no, no, no you were correct. Four and a half. And there is only one reason it's half starved, which we'll get into. There's only one reason, which we will get into. The lack of this theme.
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Yeah. No, that that thing was fucking bumping. Not exactly like that. But, oh, the music. I mean, now that you've played that, I'm just going to just go into that straight there.
00:14:05
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The music of that film was so good. ah like i just um It wasn't too heavily ah like heavily reliant on the John Williams, but when it did and you could feel the tones of it, it just it worked every time for me.
00:14:23
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Yeah, I agree. And I just thought, yeah, it was great. Like, I really liked that soundtrack a lot. And that that makes... them That's like an important thing. We always talk about that. That's an important thing for films. And we think... I don't know if you're the same necessarily, but I do feel like the superhero films overall... Man of Steel is pretty good, to be fair. But superhero films overall, rule the soundtracks aren't the greatest.
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And they're quite forgetful. they're not recently. Yeah, so... they kind of You can tell that they go, okay, that's just like the action part, the suspense part, the the sad part, and that's they just throw out there.
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Not that the the talent behind making in this scores aren't good, because there's plenty of people that have done the scores that are great, but you can tell that they just want something to fill in the background as quick as possible and just throw it out.
00:15:12
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But it didn't feel like that with this film. And I think James Gunn knew that. He needed everything to kind of work. And um if this is him in control of like DC, I'm really invested in it now. like ah Like I haven't ever really been hugely into it.
00:15:32
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Like the Christopher Nolan ones and the Batman 89. ah you know and I do. I've enjoyed them throughout the years. Even the Christopher Reeve ones. But not like I've never got a comic or gone into DC. So this film was really like threw me out there.
00:15:46
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Opened up the world. Yeah. Yes, the music was what tipped me over from four and a half to five. Yeah, because those moments mad. Yeah, I agree. um So we both clearly liked it, so there's not much to really talk about, like, ah what would we change in dislikes?
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But I will get into my point a bit later. But was there, like, sort of character traits that you liked? Like, did you did you enjoy... ah this new guy as Superman? Or did you... Oh, yeah. yeah I thought he was...
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Yeah, awesome. I like the way I kind of just dropped into... but like Most of all, I like the tone shift and the the but just focus on him being a hero. And I thought he portrayed that really well.
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And it wasn't wasn't depressing. It wasn't sad. There wasn't a bunch of stuff affecting... his life in negative ways that bleeds through to Superman, kind of what we got in Man of Steel, where it's... yeah I love Man of Steel, but it's a very ah grim film compared to this one.
00:17:00
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And I think he portrayed a more hopeful Superman than... And to be honest, a more hopeful superhero than i think we've seen in Marvel for a very long time. Yes. Probably since...
00:17:12
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maybe Captain America. Yeah. But like early Captain America. Yeah, agree. I am... Yeah, I think... I have nothing against Henry. I think he was definitely the strongest part of all of those films.
00:17:26
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Yes. And I would have liked to have seen him carry on. I just always... I was a little bit lukewarm on all of it. I remember when we came out Man of Steel and I didn't even like it then. I've warmed up to it a lot more since. It is a good film.
00:17:40
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yeah But this is definitely my favourite Superman. I'm not going to be one of those people who are like, oh, I love the originals. I know the originals because of my dad and he loves the originals.
00:17:52
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and But I haven't watched them since being a kid. So I can't be like, oh yeah, this is like the best one since then. I'm just going off of, it's the best like Superman that I've felt in ages. And like you said, him being a hero, they definitely captured that. And I really liked the human side of it.
00:18:10
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Like he just wanted to do better and be bad. That that that was quite a nice touch. And it wasn't nothing to do with like, like you said, the Zack Snyder stuff was kind of grim and dark. And I feel like,
00:18:22
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Not that it needs to go so silly like, um you know, Batman Forever or Batman and Robin. Yeah. But I feel like um you just got to kind of go with how people are feeling in the world. like Because Batman Forever and Batman and Robin...
00:18:39
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We watched them like a few years ago and we we we really enjoyed it. like Yeah, it's not a great film, but it is fun. but You can't deny that those films are fun. like You sit down and you go, yeah, i'm having a good time with my friends.
00:18:50
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and i feel like but I think you watch those after 10 years of MCU stuff and it's not yeah outside of Guardians of the Galaxy. It's not... Or it's not really that fun. I don't think to watch most of the time anymore. Yeah, exactly.
00:19:07
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But yeah, this just had so much so much cool shit in it. Yeah, that's what counts for me as well. um Yeah, of like it was good that they threw him in, wasn't it? Like they didn't show you the whole startup again of him as a kid.
00:19:22
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It just kind of come up with the text and it was like, okay, he's Superman now. And we're just going to watch from this point. And then I really liked the flashbacks that they showed with, um, when he was thinking about it, of his childhood, showing it that way.
00:19:36
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yeah That's kind of an end of the film part. But yeah, ah that was just a better way to do it. No, it's the same with Spider-Man now, isn't it? like You don't need to see Uncle Ben keep getting shot. Yeah, Batman. Yeah, shit gets old.
00:19:52
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But yeah, I think he did a very good job. And she definitely the hierarchy of power in the DC universe did change. yeah and thankfully in his favor and not in the favor of Dwayne the Rock Johnson yeah I don't know what he was thinking and I did look up a bunch of stuff after that we won't get into it but that was that's just a weird time isn't it and I'm so glad that didn't go through yeah because yeah in with my tiny gripe that I'm about to tell you
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um i just thought it was a great job uh and i'm glad this is the direction they're going and i'm interested in the dc now like the dc universe i'm i'm i'm on board it was a fun film i liked all the characters i did see some people online say that the comedy sort of cut up the emotional parts or like any sort of plot i did not feel that at all i like no just putting out that i felt like when it was trying to be funny it was funny and you know when he does his speech and that i didn't feel like he was just cut up for a joke like the tone of the movie was great was i was uh yeah i literally at the end of the film i how to had a had a tear in my eye i don't even know why but i did and that doesn't usually happen yeah yeah
00:21:13
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Yeah. ah But yeah, no, i agree. And I just, I'm on board with pretty much everything James Gunn does now because I love all the Guardians films. I even really enjoyed Suicide Squad.
00:21:24
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um Or is it The Suicide Squad he did? But yeah, I enjoyed all that. And... Yeah, I'm just looking forward to what he does. And I'm glad it's like he's the head of it because it'll go through him. kevin Kind of like Kevin Feige is it.
00:21:40
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But yeah I like that it's going to feel very focused now and it has to go through him to make sure it's good. And yeah if he approves it. So yeah, I think it's on the right track. um Would you like to know my negative?
00:21:56
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Your negative? Of the film? Go for it. what I'm not even going to ask you to actually guess what it is. But um I would say i didn't like that he seemed a bit weak.
00:22:13
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Now, I did at the same time. I like what they were going for. But in my mind, because obviously we watched this like a month ago now, But in my mind, my dad, I went to see it with my dad and he said the same thing.
00:22:27
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And he was getting kicked the fuck out of constantly. And I get it. Like he did come back at the end, but I feel like he should have won some fights and it seemed like he was winning none of them throughout the film. He was just holding his ground.
00:22:42
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And but this is where I'm divided on even my own take because... Manor still, I think, goes too far and you cannot touch him. This is what, yeah. And this one, he's like, he's getting bitch slapped about by everything.
00:22:56
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Yeah, that's what going to say about that. is Yeah, go on. I think for starting off, I think the problem with Superman is always that he can be too powerful. And then you like, yeah you like look at the original Superman films and he's like,
00:23:11
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they get to a point where they're like, okay, all he can do now that shows more powerful is literally turn back time by flying around the earth. Yeah. It's like, when you got to that point, it's like, Jesus Christ. Okay.
00:23:23
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Maybe we should, Maybe there needs to be something to foil him. No, I agree. I do know what you mean. he It did seem like he was constantly in trouble, but I'm hoping that that will give us like a base for then his power to like creep up over the next 10 years.
00:23:43
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And then you see a fully powered up Superman in Justice new or something just fully go ham. I do think if they ah like do the Batman versus Superman storyline again, which I think they should do. They should have another crack at that.
00:23:59
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But I feel like that's probably why they set up Superman like this, where you can see he's strong and he can do all this stuff. But he can I could believe Batman could fight this Superman.
00:24:12
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Yes. yeah So I feel like they should carry on with this. And I know like it's a human like ah would train him or something, but Superman clearly like doesn't know how to fight.
00:24:25
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he just He's strong. yeah What he needs to do is get people to teach him how to fight. Which would probably be a good storyline with Batman. I don't know. i don't read the comics. But I just feel like it's good showing him like this. This this is what I mean where I was like against my own opinion.
00:24:40
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I like it because, yeah, he does seem more like other people can have time to shine in this world. Where in Zack Snyder's one, i was just like, Superman turns up, everyone else can go home.
00:24:53
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Until black but Black Adam showed up. Yes, until Black Adam showed up and the hierarchy of the power changed. but um yeah, other than that, again, so like i'm i'm I'm a bit middle ground with my own opinion on it because I'm waiting to see how they evolve in.
00:25:11
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where they take it but just wish I didn't even like I wanted him to really win something so I guess that's good because you know during the film I was like oh yeah please just just win just just yeah just please win I mean that moment at the end where he like spins and does the laser bit and like punches the crap out of the people that felt pretty awesome in the cinema. to Yeah, it was cool.
00:25:36
Speaker
And also I was, it it was really, sorry, just because you said that it was so good to, look I went seeing an IMAX and it was so good to look at. There was some really good shots. Like when the fortress solitude came out of the ground and it was spinning, like it just, it, yeah. And like when the dust was settling from the building, falling on the bridge,
00:25:56
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and he like slowly rises through the dust like there was some really good shots in the film so yeah it's shot really well yeah like the what do you think of the the flying camera compared to older man like man of steel yeah no i i really liked it on the head Yeah, I thought it looked cool. I enjoyed it. I know there was a little bit of comments online like it looked a bit goofy, but I i liked it.
00:26:24
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I thought it looked cool. It made me feel like I was a bit more involved. I would say there was ah there wasn't quite the moment of Man of Steel when he learns to fly yeah with that music swelling. But it doesn't need to be again. Like, they're two different films. I wasn't looking for that.
00:26:42
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Just there wasn't like that flight moment ah of that film. Like, that's even on like our soundtrack lists, I'm sure. um yeah But yeah, no, that's that's that that that's a moment that sticks in my head of like, when and then he first breaks the sound barrier.
00:26:56
Speaker
That's like really cool. But um yeah, no, I think, yeah, just great job. What did you think of the fly? Yeah, yeah, and I know, thought it was awesome. Not necessarily better, but it's just a different way to kind of feel it.
00:27:11
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Yeah, I think at the end of the day with this film, if he didn't go in this direction, it probably would have felt too samey. And I think he'd done it.
00:27:22
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The tone and everything is perfect. I think this is this is the way that it needed to go. And I will say, just to add in, ah seeing it with my dad, he... loves Superman. like He knows Superman way more than I do.
00:27:36
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and ah he he loves like the Christopher Reeve films and he even loves the Man of Steel and he enjoys the Batman vs Superman and Justice League. He likes it all with Superman.
00:27:47
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He was worried about this film and he came out and he loved it. and he was like ah no that was really good heat like he was worried He was like, I didn't know Superman had a dog. like That sort of thing. because He's just a film guy.
00:27:59
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um But yeah, he he came out loving it. So that's something positive, I think. mean, him, it's like... We've 20 years since Batman Begins just... we've had we've had like twenty years now of since like batman begins of just serious, more gritty superheroes.
00:28:20
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Yeah. And I think like that's been our whole life, but he also probably, he remembers a time obviously when it was a bit more goofy. I think yeah um it's nice to do that again.
00:28:33
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. have a Someone trying that instead of just all trying to be depressing all of the time. Yeah. yeah agree like it didn't need to do that and like if you look at the trailers like they seemed like so much was going on and i was worried myself i was like oh are they gonna cram too much but honestly like if you haven't seen it yet i think it's great like i i recommend it i honestly i think it it it deserves the support and the praise that it's getting and what did you think of uh all the other characters that were included
00:29:07
Speaker
Yeah, that's another thing because I don't know much of this. um I know Green Lantern, but yeah, they were all good. Like i what they call Justice Gang. Yeah. Yeah, i I really liked them.
00:29:19
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Yeah. Yeah, like it was it was just great. like integer It felt like a world that was lived in instead of a ah of a starting point, which I thought was good.
00:29:30
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yeah So now there's things in this film that have piqued my interest where I'm like, oh, I want to see more of that, like the Justice Gang and yeah more of the Lex Luthor stuff. And, you know, um who was that guy that was...
00:29:43
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He had all... Mr. Terrific. No, no, not him. He was oh really cool That scene was really The one that has can change elements. Yeah, that guy. I can't remember what his name is. Metamorpho? Something Yeah, something like that. But like that was cool.
00:29:57
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like i yeah I didn't know that existed. And I just thought all that stuff was cool. And I think all the side stuff... I even liked the big dragon-type monster in the street.
00:30:08
Speaker
And um I actually... I remember I put my review on Letterboxd. I went... Superman saved the Skrill, so it's like the best Superman ever. It was just like those little moments where I'm like, he really doesn't want to do any wrong.
00:30:20
Speaker
And I'm glad it's that Superman again. It's not someone Darko that's aiming to... I know he didn't want to kill Zod, I get it, and I'm not even angry about that like some people were, but I just like that this one really didn't want to.
00:30:32
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like he He just wants to save everything. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's just good through and through. Which, like you said, that's a Captain America sort of vibe back in the earlier sort of days, wasn't it?
00:30:45
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Just wants to do good. Yeah. Let's hope he doesn't become too...
00:30:54
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So he doesn't go the route of Captain America and become too depressed with what he's doing for the government. Yeah, Can you imagine? I don't think he will.
00:31:06
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I think he's going to stay sort of his character. But no, I feel like all the banter between the characters, I i liked ah Clark and Lois together. They were really good at pairing.
00:31:17
Speaker
Yeah, they did rock very well. And like that shot, sorry, another talking about good shots, the bit where they're kissing in the mall and they're slowly flying up. That was really good.
00:31:28
Speaker
But yeah, I think that's all we need to say about Superman. We both really enjoyed it. ah Looking forward to what's to come. Definitely. um now we're going to sort of tip the scale and see if Marvel can fight with DC now okay so I'm going to guess what you gave this film okay yeah we're on Fantastic Four now yeah not the 2015 one the new one first steps okay I'm going to say that you gave it a three and a half maybe a four okay
00:32:09
Speaker
Should I guess yours first and then we both know? I think... I think you're a three. Interesting.
00:32:21
Speaker
Okay. that That's really interesting. Okay, so was I right with you? ah So, yeah, I would have given it a... don't know. I'm just thinking in my head now.
00:32:34
Speaker
I think it would be... a four at the end of it, I think. Okay, cool. Yeah. Fantastic. Four stars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, now this is interesting for me.
00:32:46
Speaker
I honestly, for, uh, you didn't, you wouldn't have liked it or didn't like it. Uh, Now, i'm I'm glad to report you're wrong.
00:32:58
Speaker
I didn't give it a three.
Fantastic Four Film Discussion
00:33:00
Speaker
In my head, was giving it a four. But again, I think I would give it a four and a half. um Four seems more suitable. To be honest, I would actually like to say this.
00:33:10
Speaker
four seems in my head, more suitable for Superman and fantastic four, but I'm not going on. the Yeah. I don't, I don't, I'm not changing my score. I don't normally do that. So, but in my head, I'm like, they're both more of four.
00:33:25
Speaker
Now the thing, before we go into, here's the thing. But before we go into like what we thought of the film, I would like to know, did you prefer... i know that you gave it a four and you gave the other one a five, but did you prefer... What one did you prefer?
00:33:42
Speaker
I preferred Superman. is it Does it feel like a large amount there? a by a lot Yeah, I think so. Okay, cool. And you? i'm I'm still stuck on which one I prefer.
00:33:55
Speaker
And I will get into why I prefer one over the other, but i I'm stuck on which one I prefer. i think Superman edges it because that fresh take of...
00:34:08
Speaker
of DC that I didn't even know and I like it like it a lot but yeah I just I liked it so I think that's why it's getting the edge for me where I'm like holy shit Reed Richards yes but I just feel like with Fantastic Four it was it was the perfect Fantastic Four movie so yeah i and I love the setting. i'm i'm just like a
00:34:40
Speaker
I'm i'm ah um'm a sucker for the old world with new technology. ah just love it. I love the aesthetics of Fantastic Four. like That tipped me over more where I'm like, I like this world.
00:34:53
Speaker
And it's kind of sad because they're fucking flying to our one for some reason. Yeah. But um yeah, I would have... The thing that was great about Fantastic Four was that it can stand on its own.
00:35:05
Speaker
And again, a good score for Marvel. another Yeah, both of them had great scores. And I just feel like after shit, after shit, after shit, and for things that I'm not even...
00:35:19
Speaker
watching anymore. I'm not even in the Marvel universe. um I don't know what's going on. This was really good to go into, have some fun, and and it was a solid story, solid film, and yeah, I just ah really liked it for that.
00:35:37
Speaker
Yeah, no, I mean, I do really like it as well. I think where it gets a slightly lower score for me is that it felt ah Yeah, I really like the i like the setting. I like like all of that. I like ah like that it was a new world. um It just kind of feels a bit late to be introducing something like that, considering they're about to blow it all up, which is clear kind of frustrating.
00:36:05
Speaker
um Yeah. And I also... I really love the family dynamic between them. And like the, the, some of the best scenes I think were just the simple ones where they're not even like doing much superhero stuff. They're just together. actually remember.
00:36:23
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so Yeah. But what was counterpoint to that was that I don't actually remember a whole load of the superhero e-bits. Yes. I felt like they were, ah You get that montage at the beginning.
00:36:37
Speaker
ah feel like that could have been a bigger portion of the movie. like Not to give us an origin story, but but to like give us like
00:36:48
Speaker
four little mini stories told through like told over like three or five minutes each. And might give us like a view of these cool things that they've done.
00:36:59
Speaker
Yeah, I'd agree with that. Just to see like what their powers are, how they compare to their powers like that they've had in previous films, and then kind of set up the fact that they've defeated all these people properly and like reasonably easy, and now they've got to face something that is going to push them to their limits, which I also...
00:37:22
Speaker
I don't know, there's that meme going around where're about where Galactus is stretching Reed Richards. And they're like, Reed Richards like almost dies being stretched by Galactus. And then there's like comparing it to like the original films where they like go all around the London Eye and stuff like that.
00:37:40
Speaker
it's yeah I just didn't know what their power level was. So was hard to kind of feel like they were in too much danger. what I mean? ah yeah yeah Yeah, no, I do see that, yeah.
00:37:53
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Whereas as opposed opposed to Superman, which kind of took it too far in the other direction where like he was always in danger. But at the end, when he kind of got out of it, you kind of felt like, ah okay, he's overcome something.
00:38:06
Speaker
um Yeah, they kind of showed you what his sort of power level was in that film. Yeah. No, I get what you mean. The the the intro where they showed all the stuff of them fighting those apes and stuff, I feel like you're right. Yeah, like I feel there could have been a set piece with that sort of talk show that was going on where going, oh, we know our Fantastic Four. I feel like...
00:38:28
Speaker
they could have then ran off and needed to deal with something and show that they dealt with it relatively easily, like you said. And then we could have gone, oh so that's what the Fantastic Four can do.
00:38:39
Speaker
But you're right, we didn't really get to see what the Fantastic Four can do until the end of the film. Yeah. ah So, yeah, no, I agree with that. Because, like, they use their powers... I mean, when else do they use their powers? When they go to see Galactus, but... And they're just running away, basically, right?
00:38:59
Speaker
Yeah. And then... I can't think of another time that they use their powers for... No, yeah, you're right. I mean, I feel like there there is, like... But it's more just in a sort of like the flashback ways or yeah or them just sort of hanging out together. Like you would see like Reed stretches arms to write on a chalkboard or Johnny lights up when all the power goes out.
00:39:24
Speaker
Stuff like that. That's not really... yeah I think it's the same. I probably could have... I wouldn't have minded if the film was like 10, 20 minutes longer for both Fantastic Four and Superman.
00:39:37
Speaker
Yeah, I'd agree. I feel like they they kind of cut it short on both of them, yeah maybe because they knew that audiences are kind of getting sick of going to the cinema and a film says two hour, 20 minutes or two hour, 30 minutes.
00:39:49
Speaker
Superman, I felt, was a bit rushed at times. And then this one, I felt, was also a little rushed in the fact that, yeah, it didn't yeah show me what I necessarily wanted to see. him But... um Yeah, which is like goes into what you said. like they're gonna well Allegedly, you know none of this really matters after these Avenger films. um so hope do you know what I'm hoping for? Here's another thing.
00:40:15
Speaker
I wasn't sure on the cast at all when in the trailers, and I thought the movie looked great. Ten movies in the past year. yeah that is great it's stuff like that but I it wasn't just him being in it I mean all of them I wasn't sure on and then watching the film I'm glad to say like yeah I love I love them all they were great yeah but um but i would I would hope, me personally, because they've started this new family, you can't give them this film and then be in Doomsday and just have it be over with. like is I'm sorry, you did not earn this. like yeah
00:40:53
Speaker
you You haven't set up an Avengers Endgame. And you don't need to do a however long it was again. think they're just rushing to reset now because they know everything's... No one's following everything.
00:41:06
Speaker
No, um but then they shouldn't have brought in the Fantastic Four. To me, I don't care what anyone says, like bringing Robert Downey Jr. back as Dr. Doom and stuff, we don't know what's going on with that, but doing that and then bringing in the Fantastic Four just randomly and they're not even part of our universe and it it feels rushed.
00:41:24
Speaker
Yes. To set up a big ending, it feels rushed. um But no, i do i just I really liked the family stuff and I liked that there was a Marvel film where it didn't you know you didn't need to necessarily just watch an action film. It was really good with the family. and yeah yeah Again, we had Thunderbolts this year, which was also really good.
00:41:46
Speaker
And I personally really liked Daredevil Born Again. So Marvel's... Yeah, they're in my good books again, and I'm interested in what they're pushing out.
00:41:57
Speaker
the The unfortunate thing seems to be that I don't look too much into these, but I did see like everyone focuses on money. Of course, these big companies do, but it doesn't seem to be doing the numbers that it needs to.
Marvel's Past Success and Current Challenges
00:42:10
Speaker
but Yeah, but I think that's everyone. I think that's a something that they need to build back up because they just released, ah get what what what was it? so Captain America, Doctor Strange, think what Thor rap th Love and Thunder.
00:42:28
Speaker
I think Thor Love and Thunder did really well. I think. Yeah. That's what I remember. It wasn't rated really well. You couldn't ask people to come to the cinema and then deliver. No, I agree. I just hope that my only problem with it not selling is I hope that Marvel, like I'm there basically. on one ten Yes. I'm hoping that they're on the right path, but I hope they don't go, oh we've put more effort into our films and maybe spent a bit more on them and,
00:42:57
Speaker
you know, done a better job, actually focused and cared. Oh, it's not selling. Oh, well, why the fuck are we doing it? Let's just go back to just making slop because that still sells. No, yeah. And I think, yeah, hopefully they learn that lesson.
00:43:09
Speaker
Because I think that's the same with Superman as well. It's made good money, but it hasn't... I think I saw last week, it's like only just become profitable or something. which um But that isn't the point. like it's it's yeah These films... Marvel's kind of in a similar place where it needs to build up its reputation again after...
00:43:30
Speaker
they I mean, they didn't have films as bad as Justice League and the original Suicide Squad, but they did have, they were all just pretty mid and sometimes even worse in a way that they were just boring, I thought.
00:43:45
Speaker
Yeah. yeah the note recently as well. Like I remember putting on Falcon and the Winter Soldier and yeah, I got 15 minutes and I went, I'm not wasting my time. I knew, I just knew like, i was like, I'm i'm not going to do I watched one episode of Loki.
00:44:03
Speaker
I didn't bother with WandaVision. I heard that one's actually pretty good, but yeah, WandaVision is good. I couldn't be bothered with them. like um' i don't know if you watched Jeremy Johns, but Jeremy Johns literally said he was like, I think it was him anyway, but he was like, it felt like it become homework and no one wants to do homework.
00:44:21
Speaker
And I agree with that. like i'd like It did. It felt like... we were starting to do a chore with watching stuff. It was like, ah have you seen the new episodes quick? You have to subscribe to our, our live service shit. And going have to keep, you know, our streaming services. We got, you know, the all these new Marvel shows coming out and I'm like, but it just, it, they done the same with Star Wars and they put out all this shit. And I'm like, you've missed the point. Yeah.
00:44:48
Speaker
and It's interesting though. I wonder if, because I feel like with the whole DC stuff, I'm actually, because they're going to do like a TV show for the Lanterns and it's Peacemaker, which first season was very good. And they've done like a couple of animated things and Superman's actually made me want to invest time in those when they come out.
00:45:10
Speaker
I agree. Whereas I think just because Marvel, it was movies and then there was something like, Now we have all this shit that you need to look at. I'm kind of like dropping it in the middle of like a universe feels more annoying to me than it starting that way.
00:45:24
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. amazing I just feel like after Endgame, they should have sort of settled it down, maybe done some spin-offs, but not done something major. but it's It's like they lost the plot. Fantastic Four after Endgame and like different universe and just not gone back to our to the normal universe for like a couple of movies or something.
00:45:44
Speaker
Because then imagine that. thing Like do each, do a few universe movies in different universes and then you bring them together. exactly because imagine that like like you just said imagine like this multiverse story arc actually come into a close when all of these different things from different universes come together and you're like oh i like that one and yeah you like you know i like that universe oh they're actually together how cool is that but yeah they rushed to the ending and they didn't know what they were doing the whole way like literally to me the whole from endgame they didn't know what they were doing definitely not
00:46:21
Speaker
um they didn't know how to carry on and this multiverse saga has been shit i will say like uh i won't go too deep into it but spider-man no way home really enjoyable to watch but it's not a great film like i love it yeah but it's it's so much of like do you remember this and you know if you're just trying to make me remember all
Spider-Man and Thunderbolts: Future Expectations
00:46:44
Speaker
the better spider-man shit can't you just do that yourself That's the thing. I was, cause we were, I was watching all of the, uh, Marvel films with my girlfriend and she,
00:46:55
Speaker
um
00:47:00
Speaker
Well, we got to like Spider-Man and I was like, well, we got to Nowhere Home and we hadn't watched ah Homecoming or Far From Home. I don't know why, but we just kind of missed those. And i was like, oh man, to watch it No Way Home, we have to watch all of these Spider-Man movies. And oh man, do you want to do that? No, probably not.
00:47:20
Speaker
Okay, we won't do that. Because you can't really watch it without that. And it's kind of the same. No. I think Deadpool Wolverine's a little bit different, but to really appreciate that, you have to you have to kind of understand the other movies.
00:47:36
Speaker
And even in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, it's like that scene with Patrick Stewart, and you only really get it if you've seen it.
00:47:46
Speaker
That's why i will praise them now, though. like They've done all these cameo shit, but... nostalgia goes so far and you need to actually respect it first to make it good so I think No Way Home is a good one but then I feel like Doctor Strange wasn't one like no it's just shit it's just like oh here they are do you like them and also I feel like Deadpool and Wolverine was a bit like that too because it was like do you remember these characters but they're not by the same actors and I was like what okay no does it matter then
00:48:19
Speaker
yeah um but i can get that I kind of forgive more because it's like the whole point. Deadpool is literally just taking... He is taking the piss out of all of that kind of stuff. but No, yeah. i but one a different antropy like it was It was funny, though. but yeah The film is funny. I do like that film. I'm not slacking that off at all. But um yeah, I feel like it's just...
00:48:40
Speaker
That's why I'm appreciating the new stuff. Like, Thunderbolts, it took all that shit. Like, if you look at all of them, to me, all of those characters in that film are in a shit movie, except for Bucky.
00:48:54
Speaker
He's cool. But everyone else is in a shit movie or TV show. And they went, let's just give them a chance. And it shows you what good writing, directing, and characters can do. Like, it's not the actors or the characters necessarily because the film's good.
00:49:09
Speaker
And I feel like that with Fantastic Four, like this one didn't even rely on anything to make Fantastic Four good. And that's what amazed me but because Marvel didn't rely on anything.
00:49:20
Speaker
They actually pulled something good out of their ass without... needing to go here's a cameo and here's this like the doctor doom bit at the end felt underwhelming because the film was already great like i didn't it didn't add anything it's just like oh there's doctor doom that was cool but um yeah i i mean like just back to fantastic four before we like sort of wrap up or anything but the i just i thought it was impossible to make galactus cool
00:49:52
Speaker
but yeah even as a kid like he just kind of looks goofy in this film he was done and he was at that bit I i saw this in IMAX as well and the like he was fucking scary.
00:50:04
Speaker
like I was in the screen and when his eyes light up and then his silhouette sort of shows, yeah i was like, oh, he's fucking big. And obviously like you see the trailers, he's big. But shit, he's big, isn't he? When he moved, I was like, oh.
00:50:20
Speaker
And he just the voice the the actor that was the voice, I was just yeah really good um that they managed to pull that off. And that links back to what i was saying about Batman and Robin and Batman, those type of films, those films are goofy and they look like sort of the comic counterparts of the goofier time.
00:50:39
Speaker
And it shows you now that we, you know, we don't need Galactus to be a big cloud, to be like oh how do we how do we work around this weird design you can just show it shows you know you can make minor modifications but you can just show it it's okay like we're already watching a film where a guy stretches yeah and there's a big rock dude like you can show Galactus yeah you don't need to take yourself so seriously But I think the world that they set up with it being like a 1960s futuristic time helped with Galactus. If it was like ah the 2000, was it four? Like the one, the original Fantastic Four.
00:51:15
Speaker
Can't remember the year. But that one, um if Galactus did show up looking like the one in the new film, that might have been a bit jarring. Yeah, but I
Marvel and DC: Multiverse Strategies and Storytelling
00:51:24
Speaker
agree. Doctor Doom was cool in that film. Do you think he fits in in the normal MCU universe?
00:51:30
Speaker
Because I think that's where he's going next. Yeah, that's another... I think because we've seen him and we've adjusted to him, yes? Yeah. And you kind of know where he came from. Yeah. So that's fine.
00:51:42
Speaker
But if he... Like, again, I think now I'm thinking about yeah, it would have looked a bit weird just popping in. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But... No, I thought... um So at the end of it, I thought both films were really good.
00:51:55
Speaker
And where do you think Avengers Doomsday... How much of this universe do you think we see... How much of this universe? um i I feel like if Doomsday is successful, like they want to do the reset, don't they?
00:52:12
Speaker
But I feel like if Doomsday is successful, because they've noticed that the reviews are positive for Thunderbolts and for um Fantastic Four... that they might try and just hold on to some of it. Maybe they'll go back to their universe um and then we can carry on with the Fantastic Four and then come from there. Or maybe they will start doing multiverse stuff because I don't know why they don't anyway.
00:52:37
Speaker
Yeah, I reckon if they fit... Separately. Yeah, yeah. I reckon they could probably fit in another Fantastic Four movie if they... Like maybe between Doomsday and Secret Wars.
00:52:48
Speaker
And you have it just set before Doomsday or something. And maybe... Yeah, because I mean, that's ah that's a positive thing because you want to spend more time with these characters. Yeah. So they've done a good job there, but it just feels like they've dropped these guys in and they're just about to lose it all.
00:53:04
Speaker
Or yeah, just feels a bit pointless to do it now, but we'll see how it goes.
00:53:12
Speaker
Yes, I'm very intrigued. Which, what are you most excited for in terms, are you excited, more excited for the MCU or the, in the future stuff? See,
00:53:25
Speaker
I'm more excited for DC now um because I'm unfamiliar with it. there's a like I know Marvel waymo like way more DC. um And Marvel and not had their time, but I've had my time with it.
00:53:41
Speaker
And I'm i'm really like looking forward to like where it's going to go, but not so much with Doomsday. like Right now, I don't care about Doomsday still.
00:53:52
Speaker
I just don't have any attachment to it. um I feel like it was just thrown out there, like I said, with the Robert Downey Jr thing. And it just feels a bit thrown out there where now DC's starting fresh. And that was the that was the thing to do.
00:54:06
Speaker
Because I feel like i'm they're sort of opposite now where... they're trying to play catch up with not, not necessarily because nothing's even happened, but they're trying to play catch up to try and win back people like Marvel is yeah where DC have had that sort of gap and they're like, no, we'll just show you what we, what we can do.
00:54:25
Speaker
And do you like it? And we'll take it from there. And it's obviously been positive feedback. So they're going to work on that where Marvel, It's just, it's like um playing with your toys as a kid.
00:54:37
Speaker
It's just yeah everything's thrown into the fucking middle and you're having a battle royale with it. Yeah. So I don't know what the fuck's going on. Because even though the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man show, the cartoon, that was really good.
00:54:49
Speaker
I really enjoyed it. did not expect to enjoy it. And I loved it. But that was meant to be like a prequel to Homecoming, like to show you how he got his powers. And then they scrapped that and now it's a different multiverse thing. And I'm like, so you've done another Spider-Man.
00:55:03
Speaker
Where does it all fit? Yeah, i think they just need to keep it consistent. Because that's another thing in Superman, which I thought was interesting, was that they there is basically just a multiverse already.
00:55:14
Speaker
Like it's just already there, like getting in the different dimensions and stuff like that. And they like he's just introduced that concept in his first film. So I think it's kind of with Marvel, again, that they kind of introduced this concept of multiverse. And now it seems like they're going to try and collapse it all back down again and then restart with one world. But I think that...
00:55:37
Speaker
does kind of lead to kind of stagnant storytelling. Because if you think, unless they start doing stuff like DC have done, like where they've got the Batman, the Joker, yeah ah all these kind of like films outside of their universe where they can tell different stories.
00:55:55
Speaker
But i won I feel like that's what they need to do alongside their normal Marvel stuff. And not just in a what if series. Yeah. I 100% agree. Like the Batman with Robert Pattinson, I'm still looking forward to, but I'm yeah glad that it's not part of this universe.
00:56:10
Speaker
But yeah, it doesn't it baffle you that none of them thought about this till now? Like you have comic books, like you don't need to go. Oh, what if just say like you, you already know, like, it's like, what is it? Earth 616 or whatever is our one of the, you know, you've already done it.
00:56:26
Speaker
Just do that. Yeah. yeah you know like just Just do that. like You can have a and ah Fantastic Four movie on its own. It doesn't need to be in this universe. But I know what they're going for. They're trying to you know bring it all together and start again.
00:56:41
Speaker
But yeah it's just unnecessary. they could have just gone They could have carried on with stuff after Endgame. But then you know just branch out. Be like, oh, we've got a new line, the Ultimate line, which is one that I really like of the Marvel comics.
00:56:54
Speaker
I really enjoy the Ultimate Spider-Man line. um Not that they just have to do Ultimate Spider-Man, but is it was at a time when they thought the Avengers didn't sound cool, so they called them the Ultimates. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think just do stuff like that.
00:57:08
Speaker
you know You don't have to stick to one line, especially when you're making multiverse. Big films and then like go apart from each other again afterwards.
00:57:19
Speaker
They don't have to just... yeah b And yeah, they can come together. Yeah. That's the point. I think that that's what I heard. Do you remember the Arrowverse? Yeah.
00:57:31
Speaker
yeah And I never watched it. I always thought it was quite cool.
00:57:37
Speaker
They just had all these... They did have like different universes and then they met. but And then like over 10 years they they did all become one, but it was kind of like kind of felt earned at that point and like you'd lived in all these different places.
00:57:50
Speaker
As I said, I never watched it, but I just thought that was quite cool. Yeah, no, I agree. They just need to sort of do that. like you know if you're gonna Because it feels like there's a multiverse, but It always feels like there isn't one because you watch one film, the multiverse opens up, then they close it. and they close it yeah Every movie. It doesn't feel like the multiverse is expanding and people are coming all over the place.
00:58:15
Speaker
it It just feels like, oh, the multiverse is opening up and then they go, oh, well thank God we closed that at the end. I'm like, what? What are you doing?
00:58:25
Speaker
And then the next film's like, it's not really closed. And then, yeah. Yeah, gets a bit silly.
00:58:35
Speaker
Yes, i don't i don't I don't know if there's any. So, yeah, we've we've compared them both. weve We think you think DC is more exciting.
Anticipation for Upcoming Marvel Films
00:58:46
Speaker
I agree probably there.
00:58:47
Speaker
um Although I am um quite keen to see Doomsday and Secret Wars just because I think they're just going to I'm just more keen for it just to see who they throw in.
00:58:59
Speaker
and just like It's not even about the story anymore. I'm just like... Yeah, that's what was getting at with the action figure line. Yeah, and I think, will we see Spider-Man again?
00:59:11
Speaker
I don't know. Do you know what? Yeah, like that's another thing. I just feel like after No Way Home, they really could have like... Oh, yeah. Striked home with that and gone, oh, Tobey Maguire's got a fourth one. Andrew Garfield's finally got his third one.
00:59:25
Speaker
Yeah. There was no need to not do that. Yeah. and yeah that they would they they were like oh let's make Craven and Venom The Last Dance yeah let's make three Venom films a Craven Madame Web Morbius morby oh my god you forgot you literally forgot I could tell you was not even going to say that you because you stared at a wall yeah I did forget about Morbius but yeah why would you make them yeah that's just stupid
00:59:59
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
Podcast Continuation Plans
01:00:00
Speaker
Yes. Well, I think we've probably discussed with everything we wanted to today. Am I right? Yeah. Yeah. Very good. um So, yes, I think we're going to be picking this up weekly again.
01:00:14
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I think next week's episode will be and but we
01:00:20
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an extract from Frank Drebin Jr.'s life. Is it Frank? Yeah, we should do that. It is Frank German, We should do that. I need to re-watch um the original ones.
01:00:31
Speaker
I watched the first one last night with but Kim. How was that? I quite enjoyed it. Okay, good. and I think two and three are supposed to be the better ones there. I've heard good things about it. 75 minutes, I think, the movie. yeah yeah ah yeah We'll do that then, which will obviously be a shorter episode because it's just one film.
01:00:55
Speaker
We shall see. yeah I might a making a young quiz for you. Excellent. We'll find out. It's been a pleasure. Goodbye.
01:01:06
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yeah See you later.