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Frankenstein: Monstrous Romp or a Disfigured Mess? - Episode #10
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Welcome to the 10th installment of Cosmin Kimono
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Transcript
00:00:00
Callum Jackson
It's alive!
00:00:02
Cameron Resner
That's a soundbite.
00:00:03
Callum Jackson
God, that was loud, wasn't it?
00:00:05
Cameron Resner
It sounded like you, but it was the movie.
00:00:08
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it was... the it was Wait.
00:00:11
Cameron Resner
What?
00:00:11
Callum Jackson
Did he say that in the movie?
00:00:13
Cameron Resner
I think he does at some point.
00:00:15
Callum Jackson
Oh my God, I need to...
00:00:18
Cameron Resner
I think so.
00:00:18
Callum Jackson
I need to check that out because I said he has to say it, but I don't remember him saying it. Hmm,
00:00:24
Cameron Resner
I think he does at some point, I remember.
00:00:27
Callum Jackson
okay.
Introduction to Cosmic Kimono and Frankenstein Movie
00:00:28
Cameron Resner
Welcome the Cosmic...
00:00:28
Callum Jackson
Well...
00:00:31
Cameron Resner
Kimono podcast. I forgot what we were called for a second.
00:00:33
Callum Jackson
Yeah, keep him in suspense. yeah Like, welcome to the Jared Leto podcast.
00:00:37
Cameron Resner
I was trying to say something funny, but all I had was Kimono. I was like, Cosmic Boner podcast, but no, didn't go with it.
00:00:45
Callum Jackson
Cosmic Gemini. be known But yes.
00:00:49
Cameron Resner
And I think this week we're going to have a ah a discussion about the new hit movie, Frankenstein.
00:00:58
Callum Jackson
With you saying that now, um wondering what you thought about it. But... I've just got an email as I was looking to join this talk. Netflix have just messaged me going, what did you think of Frankenstein?
00:01:11
Cameron Resner
God, you can send them this afterwards.
00:01:13
Callum Jackson
I'll be like, follow my podcast.
00:01:14
Cameron Resner
Just be like, hold on, patience.
00:01:16
Callum Jackson
Follow my podcast.
00:01:17
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:01:18
Callum Jackson
Just give me a minute. We haven't recorded it yet, Netflix.
00:01:19
Cameron Resner
like Yeah, God.
00:01:21
Callum Jackson
Come
00:01:23
Cameron Resner
They're going to upload this podcast onto Netflix as the review.
00:01:25
Callum Jackson
yeah Yes, and they'll go, what did you think of the Frankenstein Cosmic Kimono podcast review?
00:01:33
Cameron Resner
That is more popular than Frankenstein himself.
00:01:36
Callum Jackson
Yes, the hit novel.
00:01:37
Cameron Resner
Yes.
Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein Adaptation
00:01:39
Callum Jackson
but
00:01:41
Cameron Resner
So yes, we're talking about The Newest Frankenstein by Guillermo del Toro, maker of hit movies such as Hellboy and Hellboy 2.
00:01:46
Callum Jackson
Guillermo del Toro. I didn't say that in an accent.
00:01:54
Callum Jackson
And...
00:01:55
Cameron Resner
That's all.
00:01:56
Callum Jackson
the
00:01:56
Cameron Resner
That's all you need to know.
00:01:57
Callum Jackson
The Shape of Water.
00:01:59
Cameron Resner
And The Shape of Water and Pan's Labyrinth.
00:01:59
Callum Jackson
Or are we going to be talking about the original Frankenstein? Or is that even the original Frankenstein? The one from 1931? Did I get the date right?
00:02:10
Callum Jackson
I don't know.
00:02:10
Cameron Resner
that That probably is the original one. um I did write it down, actually, somewhere.
00:02:14
Callum Jackson
Maybe it is novel.
00:02:15
Cameron Resner
Hold on. I wrote it down in my...
00:02:17
Callum Jackson
It is 1931. I was right.
00:02:18
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it's 1931, yeah.
00:02:19
Callum Jackson
I was looking up. Okay, that's cool.
00:02:22
Cameron Resner
So this is almost 100 years after.
00:02:22
Callum Jackson
See, I've... Yeah, I've seen all those old ones. Been a long time, but I like...
00:02:27
Cameron Resner
Did you watch it when it came out?
00:02:30
Callum Jackson
Yes, I was there when it was filmed.
00:02:31
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm. Very good.
00:02:34
Callum Jackson
ah Along with Todd.
00:02:34
Cameron Resner
Very
00:02:35
Callum Jackson
He was the director.
00:02:37
Cameron Resner
Yeah. That old bastard.
00:02:41
Callum Jackson
You can finally see in colour.
00:02:41
Cameron Resner
Yes.
Initial Impressions and Emotional Impact
00:02:45
Cameron Resner
So this came out on Netflix.
00:02:47
Callum Jackson
me
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Cameron Resner
Was in the cinema for a little bit, I believe.
00:02:49
Callum Jackson
It was. Was
00:02:50
Cameron Resner
One of the first Netflix films to be in the cinema for a little bit.
00:02:53
Callum Jackson
it really?
00:02:54
Cameron Resner
Well, they've been playing around with it. I want to discuss that maybe later.
00:02:57
Callum Jackson
Okay, yeah um yeah
00:02:58
Cameron Resner
But, yeah. Let's get right bang into it.
00:03:03
Callum Jackson
normally you ask me.
00:03:05
Cameron Resner
How much did you hate it?
00:03:06
Callum Jackson
yeah no so Normally you ask me and then I talk for fucking hours.
00:03:06
Cameron Resner
oh
00:03:10
Callum Jackson
So i want to i want you to be the first with this film. I want you to tell me if you liked it or not.
00:03:19
Cameron Resner
Headline thoughts?
00:03:22
Cameron Resner
Yes, I did. Catch you waiting, huh?
00:03:23
Callum Jackson
Okay. Okay. ah Yeah, I was like, we fucking cut out. Mm-hmm.
00:03:29
Cameron Resner
Yeah, no, I did really like it.
00:03:32
Cameron Resner
I thought it was a bit long, but i did i enjoyed I enjoyed the movie overall, and I thought that acting was good.
00:03:36
Callum Jackson
Mm-hmm.
00:03:44
Cameron Resner
I didn't expect to feel empathy or i didn't expect to feel for the monster as much as I did. I've seen Frankenstein. i think the the Frankenstein, i watched like a Frankenstein TV series like 10 years, like 10, 15 years ago.
00:03:58
Callum Jackson
Oh my God.
00:04:00
Cameron Resner
And that portrayed Frankenstein as an absolute, like horrifying monster.
00:04:07
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:04:07
Cameron Resner
But it was like TV budget. So...
00:04:09
Callum Jackson
you know what? might have watched that. I was trying to remember what one was. Is there a bit in that? Because it's similar to this film.
00:04:15
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:04:15
Callum Jackson
Is there a bit um where he's with the little girl in the snow?
00:04:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:04:22
Callum Jackson
I know that's very niche to think of, but it's all I've got my head.
00:04:26
Cameron Resner
Yeah, it was like a modern version of it, I think.
00:04:29
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:04:30
Cameron Resner
It was like he was made in a lab.
Comparison with Other Adaptations and Critique
00:04:33
Cameron Resner
But I don't know why i think of it not iFrankenstein.
00:04:33
Callum Jackson
So not I, Frankenstein. Is that even a real film? Is it I, Frankenstein?
00:04:41
Cameron Resner
I think this was like two thousand I'm going to say.
00:04:45
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:04:46
Cameron Resner
But um yeah, that's that's the that's the thing I think of when I think of Frankenstein. And I thought it was much better than that.
00:04:52
Callum Jackson
Mm-hmm.
00:04:54
Cameron Resner
um But yeah, overall, I was very happy with it.
00:04:55
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I mean, I think of the old sort of The 31 one. I'm sure that's the universal version of it. Is the sort of ones that come to mind.
00:05:04
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:05:05
Callum Jackson
that The MCU before the MCU.
00:05:08
Cameron Resner
Yes.
00:05:09
Callum Jackson
But yeah.
00:05:09
Cameron Resner
Yes.
00:05:10
Callum Jackson
So I do think of the big dude that's green and got the fucking bolts hanging out of his neck.
00:05:15
Cameron Resner
The classic.
00:05:18
Callum Jackson
But yes. i havet ah don't I haven't read the book. But I hear that this movie is a very solid... adaptation of that probably the best I think I saw someone saying it and iFrankenstein is a real film sorry I was just looking out but besides iFrankenstein which I've never seen this film this Frankenstein I feel yeah I I i liked it but I don't think i I loved it and but in in a way where I can appreciate there is a good film
00:05:33
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah, no, I think.
00:05:37
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Uh-huh.
00:05:47
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:05:55
Callum Jackson
I think we were kind of talking about this about good boring movies. Not that it's boring, by the way. I don't mean that. But there's like another category now where that's a great film, but it wasn't fully for me.
00:06:06
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:06:07
Callum Jackson
And I think this comes into that category because I can't. I was thinking about rating it and and i I don't know where I'm going to land yet. Like I'm still undecided. So I might not even decide by the end of this, but.
00:06:22
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I appreciate it. I think it's a good film. ah It's definitely one of the better Netflix movies as well, of memory.
00:06:29
Cameron Resner
um sure Yeah.
00:06:30
Callum Jackson
But ah yeah, there was a lot. I feel like if it is a great adaption of the book, then I'm also like, is the book for me? Because there's like... He doesn't... Do you know... like So again, spoilers, by the way. So we will be talking about the whole film like with no filter. But the...
00:06:51
Callum Jackson
I feel like his relationship with Elizabeth wasn't fleshed out enough.
00:06:54
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:06:56
Callum Jackson
And also the ending was kind of flat.
00:07:01
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:07:01
Callum Jackson
Because he just walks up to him and I'm like, mate, you could have just spoke about this. But, you know, they're chasing each other, which clearly is a long time because Oscar Isaac's grown a full beard. And that kind of breezes over really quickly.
00:07:15
Cameron Resner
Yeah, i was going to say there wasn't really enough time to.
00:07:17
Callum Jackson
Yeah, so it it kind of, to me, just ends. And that frustrated me.
00:07:20
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:07:22
Callum Jackson
Because I was like, yeah, just...
00:07:23
Cameron Resner
ah did
00:07:25
Callum Jackson
you know Have you seen The Revenant?
00:07:27
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:07:28
Callum Jackson
Do you know when he's hunting Tom Hardy at the end?
00:07:30
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:07:31
Callum Jackson
That is what I needed from this.
00:07:34
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:07:34
Callum Jackson
A bit more feeling like there was a hunt and how long it was sort of going on for. And, yeah, no, I didn't feel that.
00:07:40
Cameron Resner
Yeah, you don't really get that with the format of the film. I did think at the end he was going to walk away and then was going to cut to like two thousand and he'd be walking.
00:07:43
Callum Jackson
But... Yeah, go
00:07:50
Cameron Resner
He'd be alive still. Like Dracula Untold or something.
00:07:53
Callum Jackson
Just track clear on top.
00:07:55
Cameron Resner
I actually, I was generally thinking that would happen because they they mentioned like, oh, they kept mentioning he can't die. He's he's like, he'll live forever alone.
00:08:01
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:08:03
Cameron Resner
And I thought they're going to do it, aren't they? He's going to appear in Croydon somewhere.
00:08:07
Callum Jackson
I'm glad they didn't.
00:08:11
Callum Jackson
Let the games begin.
00:08:13
Cameron Resner
I'm glad they didn't as well.
00:08:13
Callum Jackson
but
00:08:14
Cameron Resner
yeah but
00:08:14
Callum Jackson
yeah yeah You just see Tom Cruise walk away at the end.
00:08:18
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:08:19
Callum Jackson
He's coming back.
00:08:20
Cameron Resner
Charles Dance, let the games begin.
00:08:22
Callum Jackson
Oh, he was in this as well.
00:08:24
Cameron Resner
He was, yeah. God, maybe it's all connected. Maybe becomes a vampire after that.
00:08:29
Callum Jackson
maybe Yeah, maybe he died.
00:08:30
Cameron Resner
Before
00:08:31
Callum Jackson
Wait, oh, before. No, wait, maybe he was a vampire and he faked his death.
00:08:34
Cameron Resner
and after. Yes.
00:08:35
Callum Jackson
Before and after. Yes, this we we're making the cinematic universe.
00:08:36
Cameron Resner
God. A Monsterverse. It's going to be in the same universe as the mum before.
00:08:41
Callum Jackson
The dark universe. Oh, yes, the Mummy 4.
00:08:42
Cameron Resner
God. Here we go. Okay.
00:08:45
Callum Jackson
We'll talk about that later. so but
00:08:48
Callum Jackson
We'll bring back for the Mummy 4, don't you worry. But um no, I think, yeah, the film, the things that I did like, I like i like to, that it's not, I'm not just very like, oh yeah, it's just not for me.
00:09:02
Callum Jackson
the I loved the costume designs. I liked how he looked, the monster.
00:09:08
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:09:08
Callum Jackson
I like these weird sort of worlds. Like I was just talking Seth about, actually, do you know, like um the order or technically Van Helsing.
00:09:16
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:09:16
Callum Jackson
So technically the same sort of thing, but it's where it's in our world, but there's technology and yeah, it's a bit fantasy.
00:09:21
Cameron Resner
Something little bit, yeah.
00:09:24
Callum Jackson
And I really like that and that this film had it and it was like, Oh, it's here.
00:09:25
Cameron Resner
Steampunky. Yeah. Yeah, had a really good visual style, I think.
00:09:31
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
Visuals and Performance Highlights
00:09:32
Callum Jackson
It was really cool.
00:09:32
Cameron Resner
Although at the beginning, I thought
00:09:32
Callum Jackson
And I think he already does that.
00:09:35
Cameron Resner
I thought at the beginning. I don't know why. the The characters at the beginning, like the boat people, like just as they're just before Frankenstein shows up, when it's like light still, it looked like it was like I was watching the Polar Express or something.
00:09:46
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:09:50
Callum Jackson
Yeah, they did look weird.
00:09:51
Cameron Resner
I don't know why. They looked just like CG for everyone
00:09:53
Callum Jackson
ah i think I think there was a weird high frame rate because I noticed it, but the rest of the film doesn't have that.
00:09:54
Cameron Resner
I was like, what's going on?
00:09:57
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:00
Callum Jackson
But the first scene has this weird Hobbit high frame rate that just looked so uncanny.
00:10:00
Cameron Resner
No.
00:10:05
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:10:08
Callum Jackson
I know what you mean.
00:10:08
Cameron Resner
was like, is that Tom Hanks?
00:10:08
Callum Jackson
I was like, what?
00:10:09
Cameron Resner
I was like, is he bad?
00:10:10
Callum Jackson
yeah like I was like, I hope it doesn't look like this the whole film.
00:10:14
Cameron Resner
Yeah, no, yeah, it stopped looking like that, I think, when it got dark, but was like, what?
00:10:18
Callum Jackson
Yeah. But no, I know what you mean. it did It had like an uncanny sort of ah BBC production, but old BBC production.
00:10:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:10:25
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:26
Callum Jackson
It just, yeah, it looked... I was like, here we go. But after that, as soon as he started fucking throwing people around, was like, oh.
00:10:36
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah.
00:10:36
Callum Jackson
And he learnt some fucking hand-to-hand combat.
00:10:36
Cameron Resner
i I was going to say I really did. I like that but beginning scene. And I liked...
00:10:42
Callum Jackson
Yeah. It was a good setup for him.
00:10:45
Cameron Resner
Yeah. did you yeah I enjoyed when he punched someone's head right off.
00:10:49
Callum Jackson
Yeah, was just... I just... I remember that bit where he sort of like... Breaks the dude's arm and then flips him to the ground like he's doing fucking gum food or some shit.
00:10:57
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:10:58
Callum Jackson
I was just like, what the fuck is going on? But it was... um Yeah, it was cool. And it did show... You know, how he was just going through people pushing the bow. It was a good setup to show like he is...
00:11:08
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:11:09
Callum Jackson
He can be a monster. Should I say not he is.
00:11:12
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:11:13
Callum Jackson
But yeah, it was a good sound. But if you didn't hear, so I will say if this is your first time and you did not know anything about Frankenstein, pretty cool. Cause it's, you're like, fuck. He's a monster.
00:11:26
Callum Jackson
it like the, the intro you're like, shit, he he's, he is a monster.
00:11:26
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:11:30
Callum Jackson
They did build a monster and you know, he's just hunting this one dude, Victor Frankenstein, but it's kind of, It's cool to set that up and then you hear Victor's story and then you hear Frankenstein's story, which I did think is really good.
00:11:42
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:11:46
Callum Jackson
And like i said, if you're watching this sort of story for the first time and you know nothing about it, that's really cool, I think.
00:11:53
Cameron Resner
Yeah. I did think there was there was maybe... ah did think Victor's story was a bit too long. I was like, before the monsters made.
00:12:02
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:12:03
Cameron Resner
And then like when it... I forgot it said chapter one, Victor's story at the beginning, and then when it said chapter two, i was like, oh God.
00:12:09
Callum Jackson
Yeah, no, I agree.
00:12:10
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:12:10
Callum Jackson
i think I think I was literally saying that to Sophie as well because before this she wanted to know my like sort of thoughts on what you were going to think and i was like, I honestly don't know. I thought you were going to love it though but apparently not love it but you did like it. But the...
00:12:24
Callum Jackson
the part where I was saying, i don't know what I would necessarily cut out because it's not like I didn't enjoy anything, but it was a bit too much of before the monster even gets created.
00:12:37
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:12:37
Callum Jackson
And then you, and like I said, if it's really good to the novel, fair enough, but I would have adapted it a bit more and being like, let's make him come across more human with Elizabeth.
00:12:48
Callum Jackson
Cause clearly there was a connection there. And then I would have extended the hunt at the end. to make me feel his rage a bit more because that really felt confined no yeah
00:12:54
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:12:59
Cameron Resner
and I didn't really get why Frankenstein just walks off and then he, like, oh no, the monster walks off, then Victor's following him, but and then the monster's then hunting him.
00:13:09
Cameron Resner
was like, what is going on?
00:13:10
Callum Jackson
yeah it's yeah it was a weird like again if that is by the book sure I know people love the book and like the adaption sure but I'm talking like you know modernize it a bit so like I can
00:13:16
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:13:23
Callum Jackson
feel more to that because yeah like you said him walking away like Victor Frankenstein shoots Elizabeth ah then Frankenstein just picks her up fucking throws people out the way
00:13:25
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:37
Callum Jackson
Goes to a cave, I guess, somewhere nearby.
00:13:40
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:13:41
Callum Jackson
Then Victor's chasing him with a gun. He knows it can't be killed, but he does it anyway. Chases it with a gun. Does he shoot him in the cave? I feel like he does.
00:13:51
Cameron Resner
Yeah, he does.
00:13:51
Callum Jackson
But he doesn't kill him. And then the monster's chasing Frankenstein to the end of the film.
00:14:01
Cameron Resner
Yeah, but whilst frank whilst Frankenstein is chasing him, I'm like, what?
00:14:05
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah, but like like, why? Like, a but he could clearly kill him because there was multiple times where he was just throwing him about.
00:14:10
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:14:13
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:14:14
Callum Jackson
And I'm like, okay, he's toying with him, maybe. You know, like, I get that, whereas he's that angry that he's toying with him. But it was the fact that he walked away, Victor chased him, he shot him.
00:14:21
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:14:24
Callum Jackson
Frankenstein was, at the monster, sorry, was like, I'm coming after you.
00:14:28
Cameron Resner
Yeah, and then only get rid one scene of him coming after him.
00:14:29
Callum Jackson
And then that was the end of the film. Yeah, it's a weird, yeah. It was a weird, um, A weird way to wrap up the film, I think, personally. And and again, just there should have been more of him learning. like With the old man, really good part of the film.
00:14:47
Callum Jackson
But with Frankenstein himself, there should have been more with that and learning. And with Elizabeth and Elizabeth's husband, like Frankenstein's brother, there should have been...
00:14:54
Cameron Resner
Yes.
00:14:57
Callum Jackson
That whole section, when he was made, should have been the focus of the movie, in my opinion.
00:15:04
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah. I think you need some you need some background for Frankenstein because you need to know why he's doing it, I guess, and why.
00:15:09
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:15:12
Cameron Resner
ah But, like, yeah, even his relationship with Elizabeth didn't really go anywhere. It just kind of ended.
00:15:20
Callum Jackson
Yeah. And that was weird.
00:15:21
Cameron Resner
I guess it's showing that he's a bit of a bastard, but, like...
00:15:24
Callum Jackson
Yeah. But it was weird, right? Because she was kind of going to him.
00:15:28
Cameron Resner
into it yeah I know she was definitely into it yeah
00:15:30
Callum Jackson
Right? So like when that scene when she was like, yeah. So then when that scene when she was like, no, I'm not into this anymore. I was like, okay.
00:15:37
Cameron Resner
yeah and then she's into the monster yeah
00:15:37
Callum Jackson
Okay. did you do you want to fuck the monster? I didn't. I was like, what the fuck is going on here? Yeah, I get i get that. and i don't know. there's like Maybe there's more modern versions of this same sort of storyline where we can kind of get into it more like it's relatable maybe because like there's tons of things where it's like oh like beauty and the beast for example you know like it's is's stuff like that that you're kind of like oh i guess i've grown up and i've seen this story so it might be that as well that i've i've seen this story so many times played out and this one rushes the important parts i feel in areas
00:16:04
Cameron Resner
Yeah, potentially.
00:16:18
Cameron Resner
Yeah, and then extends the non-important parts.
00:16:23
Callum Jackson
Yeah, because like I said, it's not that...
00:16:23
Cameron Resner
I felt
00:16:25
Callum Jackson
I mean, you said it's a bit too long. I could feel that, but honestly, if it was three hours and I got more of the stuff that I'm looking for, I would have been happy with that.
00:16:33
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, I think I'm the same. I think I just felt like the time, the length of the film wasn't really used to...
00:16:41
Callum Jackson
Yeah. So the pacing's a bit...
00:16:44
Cameron Resner
Yeah, the pacing was off.
00:16:45
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Because I agree. like i felt Was it like an hour into the film when...
00:16:49
Cameron Resner
I think it was like an hour and 20
Film Structure and Modernization Potential
00:16:51
Cameron Resner
minutes or something.
00:16:51
Callum Jackson
Yeah, when Frank... Sorry, I keep fucking calling him Frank...
00:16:53
Cameron Resner
Oh.
00:16:54
Callum Jackson
like When the monster turns up. Because...
00:16:55
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah, that's like an hour, yeah.
00:16:57
Callum Jackson
Yeah, there's all these fucking scenes as well.
00:16:57
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:16:59
Callum Jackson
Like, where Victor's going around... Obviously, that's building with Elizabeth, sure. But he's telling his brother to fuck off and he's getting Christopher Waltz...
00:17:04
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:17:07
Callum Jackson
I don't remember his name, but he's getting his character to go, oh, can I build this? And then he's like... There's there's a lot in this film... Which didn't actually matter.
00:17:14
Cameron Resner
Yeah. There's like half an hour between when he says, yes, I'll build the monster and then the monster actually showing up or even more.
00:17:20
Callum Jackson
Yeah, which which I just feel like he could have been like, our resources are unlimited. And then you could have cut out this whole middle bullshit. And then you could have been in the lab.
00:17:31
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:17:32
Callum Jackson
building the monster and seeing where that goes.
00:17:34
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:17:35
Callum Jackson
And yes, like they kind of did rush for it anyway, but I'm saying like, there's just, there's a weird bit where Christopher Walsh is also like, Oh, you want to fuck my niece? Is it his niece?
00:17:45
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:17:46
Callum Jackson
Is it? Yeah. Or whatever she is to him, but you know, you know, yeah they're related and he's like, Oh, you, you're not allowed her. And I'm like, but why is this in the film?
00:17:54
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:17:56
Callum Jackson
Like, I don't, cause it, in the end it didn't matter.
00:17:57
Cameron Resner
Yeah, that was a storyline. I wouldn't mind if someone was came up to him just like, I'm just going to give you money. and
00:18:04
Callum Jackson
Yes. And then you could have extended the bits that were good.
00:18:05
Cameron Resner
Because that whole thing about him being ill and then dying, and then it's like, it kind of worked because they then gave him an excuse to say that the monster had killed him.
00:18:11
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:18:16
Cameron Resner
So, yes.
00:18:17
Callum Jackson
Yeah. I get that as well, though, because he's dying and he he's clearly putting his money into this because he's like, no, I want to live.
00:18:19
Cameron Resner
Oh,
00:18:22
Cameron Resner
oh yeah.
00:18:25
Cameron Resner
Yes.
00:18:26
Callum Jackson
but So I do get it.
00:18:26
Cameron Resner
I could have just come with him saying that from the beginning, maybe being like, I'm dying.
00:18:30
Callum Jackson
Yeah, like, isn't that the isn't that the storyline in The Wolverine?
00:18:30
Cameron Resner
I'll give you the money. Yeah.
00:18:34
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:18:35
Callum Jackson
he's The guy's dying and he says that off the bat and he's like, help me. And he's like, no.
00:18:39
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:18:40
Callum Jackson
ah So like you could have just started with that.
00:18:43
Cameron Resner
and
00:18:43
Callum Jackson
But then maybe he wouldn't have built it with that intention because he knows he's ill.
00:18:48
Cameron Resner
I think Frankenstein... I mean, the way they depicted him, he just wanted to do this at edit by any means, I feel like.
00:18:54
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah, he was a dick.
00:18:57
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:18:58
Callum Jackson
Yeah, big dick.
00:18:58
Cameron Resner
But he didn't want to sully the body with...
00:19:02
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah. i think cause he was making the perfect one.
00:19:03
Cameron Resner
Right.
00:19:04
Callum Jackson
Wasn't it? Yeah.
Cinematic Universe and Future Prospects
00:19:06
Cameron Resner
But even though it wasn't perfect because it was made from all these parts. So... Yeah, a bit conflicting.
00:19:11
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:12
Cameron Resner
But I think...
00:19:13
Callum Jackson
yeah
00:19:15
Cameron Resner
I think... like Yeah, I think it did harken back to ah a kind of film that we haven't had in a while, which I appreciated as well.
00:19:25
Callum Jackson
yeah
00:19:25
Cameron Resner
like but like It was like on the precipice of being like one of those kind of fun, like a bit of of entry films. or
00:19:34
Callum Jackson
A
00:19:34
Cameron Resner
And I think it could have just gone a bit more in that direction of...
00:19:38
Callum Jackson
bit more whimsical.
00:19:40
Cameron Resner
Yes, yeah.
00:19:40
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I agree.
00:19:42
Cameron Resner
Like, thinking of like Van Helsing.
00:19:45
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I was going to say, it could have been more along the lines of that, couldn't it?
00:19:47
Cameron Resner
but but Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:49
Callum Jackson
Especially since, you know, I do appreciate how the film is. And like I said, for an adaption, I haven't read it, but for an adaption of an old book, and you wanted if you wanted to get quite spot on to that, you clearly done a good job of that.
00:20:04
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:20:04
Callum Jackson
But I think maybe what we're looking for personally is like you said, linking it a bit more Van Helsing style. And obviously it's the guy that made Hellboy, so he can do it.
00:20:14
Cameron Resner
Yeah, exactly. i was going to say, yeah, I should have used that film as an example.
00:20:17
Callum Jackson
Yeah, so he can. he cat Because as soon as I saw ah the monster like fucking ripping dogs, like the wolves fucking head off.
00:20:26
Cameron Resner
and
00:20:27
Callum Jackson
Do you know that bit when it like, oh, it just pulls his, skins him.
00:20:28
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Oh, yeah, and he's like skins.
00:20:31
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that's the word i was looking for. I was like, Jesus Christ. And I was like, oh God, I could do with a 15 rated Hellboy by him. Because the the action or, that's what i mean.
00:20:42
Cameron Resner
Yeah, yeah.
00:20:42
Callum Jackson
It felt like it had purpose as well and and and weight to it. It wasn't just like, here's a cool action scene.
00:20:46
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:20:48
Callum Jackson
But,
00:20:49
Cameron Resner
Yeah. You just ripped that guy's jaw off.
00:20:50
Callum Jackson
but Yeah, yeah, but it really worked for the story because like you know if you're quite sensitive to gore, I still think you should watch it because it it really works for the story.
00:20:51
Cameron Resner
Just ripped his foot.
00:20:55
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:21:04
Callum Jackson
it's not It's not just like, oh yeah, cool, he's killing people.
00:21:05
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah. No, I think so.
00:21:08
Callum Jackson
It's like, oh shit, he can do that. It really, yeah, made an impact.
00:21:10
Cameron Resner
And it's crazy, yeah, how it still makes you feel for him. Yeah.
00:21:14
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:21:14
Cameron Resner
I was surprised how much I felt like felt sorry for him the monster by the end.
00:21:20
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:21:20
Cameron Resner
And I fell felt like I didn't want, even though he's doing like these horrify horrifying things, I think it did kind of put across the fact that he's, like, initially he's doing these things because he doesn't really understand what he's doing.
00:21:34
Cameron Resner
And then he's doing these things because people are making him do these things.
00:21:35
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:21:38
Cameron Resner
And then at the end, he's actually choosing, not to like there's a point on the boat I think at the beginning yes he kills like a lot like six or whatever sailors and then but then he gets on the boat and he's like hes but he's like screaming to scare them off but not in a way he's not just killing everyone he could have just killed everyone if he wanted to on that boat so yeah I was I think that's like one of the big positives for the movie is for me is just how yeah what I felt for the monster by the end
00:21:42
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:22:01
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:22:12
Callum Jackson
Yeah, no, I agree. I think they did do a good job of that. um And all the acting was great. And that the the actor choice, I think, of a lot of them was good.
00:22:19
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:22:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:23
Callum Jackson
And it was nice to see Oscar Isaac in a proper role again. It feels like it's been a while.
00:22:29
Cameron Resner
yes
00:22:29
Callum Jackson
I really like Oscar Isaac. So that's probably, you know, I'm not normally someone that's like, oh, I want to watch a film because of an actor. And this wasn't the case here, but it did help. i was like, oh, Oscar Isaac's in that.
00:22:41
Callum Jackson
Like that was my initial was like, that's pretty cool. I'm interested in that.
00:22:44
Cameron Resner
Yeah, he's always one of those that does something interesting, I feel like.
00:22:45
Callum Jackson
um
00:22:48
Cameron Resner
Or usually. Yeah.
00:22:49
Callum Jackson
Yeah. And I feel like fucking the monster was absolutely huge in a unit to be honest. Who is it? Jacob? Alord? Alordi? Alord?
00:22:58
Cameron Resner
Yeah,
00:22:59
Callum Jackson
Alordi? But yeah, he he was good. I haven't seen him in anything but Saltburn. Is he in Saltburn?
00:23:06
Cameron Resner
he's in Saltwork.
00:23:07
Callum Jackson
I'm just trying to think. He is, right? Yeah. But...
00:23:10
Cameron Resner
Yeah, he's in a couple of TV shows as well.
00:23:10
Callum Jackson
Yeah, and he done a great job. Which, you know, we haven't seen him, or I haven't seen him in a role like this.
00:23:18
Cameron Resner
No.
00:23:18
Callum Jackson
So it was quite... You know, like being an actor and being pulling this off, I was like, shit, you're good. was a good actor. But...
00:23:26
Cameron Resner
I need six foot five.
00:23:28
Callum Jackson
God.
00:23:28
Cameron Resner
Born in 1997.
00:23:30
Callum Jackson
Is he?
00:23:31
Cameron Resner
In Australia. Yes.
00:23:33
Callum Jackson
God. It could be you.
00:23:34
Cameron Resner
But two inches smaller than me.
00:23:36
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:23:37
Cameron Resner
I'm the next monster. And they need to up it.
00:23:40
Callum Jackson
You could be the bride of Frankenstein.
00:23:43
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:23:44
Callum Jackson
honestly thought they were going that way.
00:23:44
Cameron Resner
that's what i was gonna ask no that's what yeah i thought they were going that way but then i was like they don't have time right i hope they don't because they don't have time no no i'll be yeah i hope they don't because they don't have time like by the time when she got shot i was like okay here we go and then i looked the time but i wonder do you think he'll come back to this do you think
00:23:50
Callum Jackson
but i hope they don't have time.
00:23:59
Callum Jackson
Here we go. Here we
00:24:05
Callum Jackson
go. ah Do you know what? After seeing this, I would honestly be interested in seeing his takes on other monsters. Like the original... Well, we're getting The Mummy 4.
00:24:16
Callum Jackson
We'll come back! But, you know, The Mummy and Dracula. um Not to make a universe or something, but... you know, cause I feel like if that's your intention to make a universe, you need to think that out beforehand and then make it.
00:24:31
Callum Jackson
You can't just be like, Oh, we've got a universe that will make all these films and we'll try and link them.
00:24:31
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:24:35
Callum Jackson
You need to think that through. But yeah, I love his design choices and how things look in all of his films that I've seen.
00:24:37
Cameron Resner
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:43
Callum Jackson
And, um, yeah, I think just seeing how he would take on like something like Dracula would be interesting.
00:24:43
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:24:50
Callum Jackson
Cause I think I watched the Bram Stoker one, the, the, one with, fuck, Keanu Reeves in and Gary Oldman. I didn't rate that too much.
00:24:58
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:25:00
Callum Jackson
it was it was ah
00:25:02
Cameron Resner
Interesting one.
00:25:03
Callum Jackson
it was it was It was good. And again, I feel like it's kind of similar to this film where they've tried to really adapt the novel or the source material that it's from.
00:25:13
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:25:13
Callum Jackson
So it might not necessarily aged as well or, you know, being great for our viewership, but they really did want to adapt. the original stories, which, you know, is good.
00:25:24
Callum Jackson
Because there's a lot of times where we want the original stuff, don't we?
00:25:25
Cameron Resner
Yeah. I agree. Yeah.
00:25:28
Callum Jackson
firm
00:25:29
Cameron Resner
I did see somewhere that he, this is like something that he's been trying to make for like 20 years.
Final Thoughts and Conclusion
00:25:35
Callum Jackson
Yeah, so, good stuff.
00:25:36
Cameron Resner
So maybe he will return.
00:25:37
Callum Jackson
um
00:25:39
Cameron Resner
I think he also wanted to make, like originally when he thought about making this, he wanted to do a two or three part.
00:25:39
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:25:45
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that would make sense. it It definitely could have been fleshed out more. Maybe like as a miniseries. But I'm kind of fed up with those, to be honest. But I mean, that might have been better for this.
00:25:54
Cameron Resner
Mm-hmm.
00:25:56
Cameron Resner
yeah Yeah, maybe like yeah three or four hours in like...
00:25:56
Callum Jackson
You know maybe a three-parter.
00:26:01
Callum Jackson
Yeah, I think it could have done with that. But um overall, yeah, I think it is a good film. And I can ah can appreciate it's a good film. I just, you know, like there's a lot...
00:26:13
Callum Jackson
left to be desired from me on it that stops it from being, oh shit, this was great. You know?
00:26:20
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I agree.
00:26:20
Callum Jackson
So yeah, I think, you know, there was a lot of good choices, a lot of questionable choices, but, In the end, I did enjoy it And like I said, it's one of the better Netflix movies.
00:26:31
Callum Jackson
And I'm not just trying to say like, oh yeah, well, you know, the the middle ground, is it's it's not hard to beat.
00:26:33
Cameron Resner
I'm sure I can even...
00:26:38
Callum Jackson
um I honestly think this is actually a good film. And if you like this story and you like the director and you like these actors, you will enjoy it.
00:26:42
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:26:45
Callum Jackson
I i i think you would.
00:26:47
Cameron Resner
I agree. I think Netflix usually has a habit of taking quite good directors and making them make shit somehow.
00:26:53
Callum Jackson
Yes, odd.
00:26:53
Cameron Resner
um What was that one by the Russo brothers? Oh, Gray Man was quite good.
00:26:59
Callum Jackson
I was going to say, that was good, wasn't it?
00:27:00
Cameron Resner
But then they did the Electric State one or something.
00:27:03
Callum Jackson
Yeah, that flopped, didn't it?
00:27:04
Cameron Resner
with and that was Yeah, haven't seen it.
00:27:05
Callum Jackson
But I haven't seen that either. But again, that looked interesting. But I was just like, no.
00:27:08
Cameron Resner
I just heard it was not great. Yeah.
00:27:11
Callum Jackson
Yeah, it it's a shame because like that's kind of just the way the world's got... There's so much media coming out that when you see like the word... of it and if it's not great like i can't even be bothered you know because I am interested in a lot of stuff but if honestly if I see something hits a seven sometimes and I was really looking forward to it I'm like I will watch it because if I'm really looking forward to it sorry that was the wrong way around if I'm really looking forward to I'm gonna watch it regardless if I'm not and I see it gets a seven I'm like I will get to you but now's not the time
00:27:23
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:27:48
Cameron Resner
no
00:27:48
Callum Jackson
Not that a seven's bad, by the way. I know that you can enjoy and get around that, but it's like, I wasn't really... I didn't care about you in the first place. Okay, I'll skip that.
00:27:57
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I completely get that.
00:27:58
Callum Jackson
But there is just too much.
00:27:59
Cameron Resner
There's just too much. There's too many good things.
00:28:01
Callum Jackson
And I feel like, you know, with just Netflix, they're just like, here's this, here's this, here's this, here's this. And I'm like, okay, I can't keep up.
00:28:06
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:28:07
Callum Jackson
So I definitely have to skip some stuff.
00:28:10
Cameron Resner
Oh, yeah. that It's so hard to like even search through it as well.
00:28:14
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yeah, now fucking games have adapted to that, but... you know, that Netflix browsing style. like, it doesn't work on Netflix. So I don't know why we're still fucking here.
00:28:23
Cameron Resner
Why would we all kind of do that?
00:28:25
Callum Jackson
I don't know why we're here.
00:28:25
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:28:26
Callum Jackson
I'm just trying to search for a fucking team death match. I don't, don't need to scroll through it.
00:28:30
Cameron Resner
what I want to watch in front of me or play Jesus
00:28:33
Callum Jackson
Fuck battlefield.
00:28:36
Callum Jackson
But yeah. So I mean, yeah. Do you have anything else to say about this thing?
00:28:41
Cameron Resner
um I don't think so i wanted to yeah i wanted to yeah we've touched on the action monster um ah think and we've covered all the kind of points that i had to discuss and anything you wanted to say?
00:28:43
Callum Jackson
So topics, you know, yeah.
00:28:47
Callum Jackson
yeah
00:28:54
Callum Jackson
yeah uh yeah i've just kind of gave mine ah a minute ago but i would yeah honestly uh it was yeah find my final final thought is i enjoyed it and i think it's definitely up there with the better netflix movies that's you know and if you enjoy
00:28:56
Cameron Resner
final thoughts?
00:29:01
Cameron Resner
Final, final thought.
00:29:14
Callum Jackson
these type of like the I call them universal monsters I know they were before that but it's just the ones that I knew um you know if you enjoy these monster stories I think you will love it to be honest and I think you should you should watch it I mean again like I know I just said I'm skipping stuff but i honestly think regardless of the review you should go in and watch it anyway like if you even if you read reviews just it doesn't matter at the end of the day because the film or the products already out there
00:29:25
Cameron Resner
Yeah, I think so.
00:29:35
Cameron Resner
Oh, for sure.
00:29:41
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:29:42
Callum Jackson
to buy or to watch or to, you know, go and see. So you might as well.
00:29:46
Cameron Resner
I think at minimum, you're goingnna it's going to be a good, I think.
00:29:51
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:29:52
Cameron Resner
A low good. what you So you created a new level on the scale. a good what What did you call it?
00:29:56
Callum Jackson
yeah
00:29:56
Cameron Resner
A good for me.
00:29:56
Callum Jackson
Oh, what was it? It was, it was just like a, it's good, but it's not for me. And I know that's a bit of a fucking mouthful, but it's like, I can appreciate it but it's not for me.
00:30:03
Cameron Resner
The scale. the scale
00:30:07
Cameron Resner
Okay.
00:30:07
Callum Jackson
And this does fall into that.
00:30:09
Cameron Resner
Where does that sit? in
00:30:11
Callum Jackson
Where does it...
00:30:12
Cameron Resner
but So we've got we've got good, good. We've we've got amazing. Let's say we've got good.
00:30:18
Callum Jackson
We need to make an actual score for this, but God.
00:30:20
Cameron Resner
And then is it good but not for me?
00:30:22
Callum Jackson
ah Good but not for me is kind of up there with the...
00:30:24
Cameron Resner
And then there's bad good.
00:30:27
Callum Jackson
Yeah, no, but it's definitely on the good, good part, but it's good but not for me.
00:30:29
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:30:32
Cameron Resner
Okay.
00:30:32
Callum Jackson
you know So I'd be like, oh, this film's good.
00:30:32
Cameron Resner
All right.
00:30:34
Callum Jackson
But then there's films that this is good, but it's not for me.
00:30:38
Cameron Resner
o
00:30:38
Callum Jackson
Then there's films that is this is good, good. So I did ah do think there's definitely different levels. There really is. But there's a lot of films.
00:30:50
Callum Jackson
i would Because we're going make our top 10, I believe, from films of this year, right?
00:30:54
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:30:56
Callum Jackson
Just to clarify, you're not going to do films that you've watched this year just from this year.
00:31:00
Cameron Resner
No. Yeah, just from this year.
00:31:00
Callum Jackson
Okay, cool. Yeah, that's what I was doing. But um yeah, so I think there's a lot of films that I've watched this year that I think are good, but not for me. You know, there's a you know and maybe you think that about Avatar.
00:31:11
Cameron Resner
yeah
00:31:16
Callum Jackson
It's good, but it's not. No, yours is just, it's good, bad, boring.
00:31:20
Cameron Resner
that's That's bad boring.
00:31:22
Callum Jackson
Bad, You can't do this to me.
00:31:25
Cameron Resner
But we'll see. We'll see. Okay.
00:31:27
Callum Jackson
God, maybe third time's the charm.
00:31:30
Cameron Resner
the Yeah. ah My ninth hour of Avatar watching.
00:31:34
Callum Jackson
God, are you going to rewatch the first two?
00:31:35
Cameron Resner
ah We'll see by the end of that. No.
00:31:38
Callum Jackson
Okay, I'll do it for you.
00:31:40
Cameron Resner
Yes, you can watch it twice for me.
00:31:42
Callum Jackson
I'll screen record it and send it. Livestream.
00:31:46
Cameron Resner
When it's all done, when they've done Avatar 10, then I'll watch them all. But...
00:31:51
Callum Jackson
Do know what, James Cameron, I'm like, I don't know how much, sorry, it's sad though, just quick.
00:31:52
Cameron Resner
up
00:31:55
Callum Jackson
I don't know how much money they put into the movies, but I know they make a fuck fuck ton of money back, a fuck ton.
00:31:57
Cameron Resner
um
00:32:00
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:32:01
Callum Jackson
but But, you know, I know they make so much back.
00:32:01
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:32:04
Callum Jackson
So I heard James Cameron talking the other day in like this documentary start type thing and he was like, yeah, so we've got the third one and, you know, we've got the story and recordings if we get to the fourth and fifth one. And i was like, what the fuck you talking about? Surely you got the funds to make that.
00:32:19
Cameron Resner
Well, yeah, I mean, Disney, I don't know, Avatar's funding the whole of Disney, probably, at the moment.
00:32:21
Callum Jackson
don't Don't be doing this.
00:32:27
Callum Jackson
Oh, that's true. I didn't think that. They're probably sending the money right back to Kenobi.
00:32:30
Cameron Resner
We'll see what happens happens when Doomsday comes out. If that's a shitter, then I don't think you're getting Avatar funding.
00:32:34
Callum Jackson
Oh my God. No, maybe it is, but they'll be like, we just have to fund Avatar. Then they close Avengers Campus in Disneyland and make more Avatar.
00:32:43
Cameron Resner
Hmm.
00:32:44
Callum Jackson
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00:32:45
Cameron Resner
Quite possibly. Avatar 10.
00:32:46
Callum Jackson
ah Quite possibly, yeah. good I mean... ah No offense, but if you see your second one, which is under Disney, Avatar 2, made $2 billion after the you know the the first film.
00:32:53
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:32:56
Callum Jackson
I remember for years people being like, oh, it's overhyped, no one really cares. And then the second one came out and made almost just as much money.
00:33:04
Cameron Resner
That was insane.
00:33:04
Callum Jackson
That's fucking insane. Because i even me, I was like, nah, it's not going to reach the numbers the first one did. The first one was like a... tech and technology sort of you know a tech advancement of movie making I remember I think I was like the first 3D film where it's just the clear lens and I was just you know like it was definitely it was like a tech demo and you know then the the second one come out and just fucking blasted that so let's see you about the third
00:33:22
Cameron Resner
Yeah.
00:33:27
Cameron Resner
yeah for sure
00:33:32
Cameron Resner
yeah I'll be interested to chat one day about what is good about avatar
00:33:39
Callum Jackson
we'll do it in December when I've seen the third one 20 times
00:33:42
Cameron Resner
yeah so and edge yeah yeah I see it but I don't see it I don't know how it's the highest grossing film of all time would do you say it's worthy of that?
00:33:45
Callum Jackson
ah you want to know You want to know what I think is good about Avatar?
00:33:55
Callum Jackson
I don't think I'm the sort of person that can say if it is or not. I think yes.
00:33:58
Cameron Resner
okay
00:33:59
Callum Jackson
The first one, yes. I understand it. But we'll get into that another time.
00:34:04
Cameron Resner
okay we shall we'll load that up
00:34:04
Callum Jackson
that's that's an interesting yeah That's an interesting topic we can... Yeah, I'll explain why another time. But first, The Mummy 4! No, we'll... We will get to that.
00:34:14
Cameron Resner
but well yeah I think we'll cut the podcast here and then just do a new session.
00:34:18
Callum Jackson
Yeah. Yes, I agree.
00:34:19
Cameron Resner
And that's a bit of behind the scenes for you, everyone, George.
00:34:22
Callum Jackson
Yeah.
00:34:22
Cameron Resner
Okay. All right. Peace out, everyone. Thank you for listening.
00:34:26
Callum Jackson
Farewell. Farewell.
00:34:27
Cameron Resner
Goodbye.