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Closing Out November
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Where did November go? Back at it in the shop. Wrapping up a couple projects and starting a few new ones.
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Sponsorship Highlights
00:00:28
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00:00:57
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Yeah. Feel good.
Podcast Sound Adjustments
00:00:58
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Yeah. Feel good. Look good. I feel like the, um, the sound of the podcast has changed. Um, I don't know if I, I changed some stuff around with this when we went to maker camp, it, uh, it gives you options for shows and I created a new show, but then it deleted this show. Um, I don't know. I feel like the mic sound better somehow. I don't know. That is good. Yeah.
00:01:28
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So wrapping up a Wednesday. Yeah. Humpty. I can't believe how fast the week goes. Yeah, it's insane. And the weeks go by so fast. The month, November was like a blur. Yeah.
Salt Box Project Giveaway
00:01:50
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Yeah. In October was just, just as fast. Yeah. November was, um, largely consumed by salt boxes. Yeah, that's true. Which we just gave away when we got left. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13. Got about a dozen, dozen seconds left. Yeah. Only two Walnuts.
00:02:20
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Yeah. The walnut, the walnut seconds are nicer than the cherries. Yeah. So yeah, if you're a listener and you ordered a salt box, you should probably have it by now. I think Adam got the last of them in the mail. It was like maybe Monday, Monday or yesterday.
00:02:45
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I'd kind of like to see that process just to get a, just get a visual on what it takes to mail all those things out. Yeah.
3 Dot Leone Project Discussions
00:02:56
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He, um, he was asking me today about, um, well, maybe I shouldn't say about another, another potential project. You're not going to be able to read what that is. Oh.
00:03:14
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Uh, what's that thing at the top? Oh, yeah. Oh, not this exact design, but with those like, those are like off a fucking door, those hinges. Yeah. Um,
00:03:36
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So we'll see about that. That could be cool. That price is seems lofty, but he didn't say anything about price. Um, so yeah, maybe we'll have another, another three dot Leone collaboration. Yeah. Maybe we use solid instead of that. Yeah. That candy cane, whatever. Yeah. No, stupid.
00:04:03
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Oh, better save this real quick. CP season four, episode three. All right. We'll move them right along.
Salon Installation Preparation
00:04:17
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Yeah. Back out on install tomorrow at the salon job. So it turns out Chris from New Doors went to high school with. What's her name? Kirk Cassie, Carissa. White Opal. The wife at White Opal?
00:04:32
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Yeah. The owner. Yeah. The proprietor. Proprietress. Yeah. Would that be the, I don't know. I'm just making words. Female, female proprietor.
00:04:53
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Proprietress. That was just a guess. I never used that word in a sentence before. Plural. Proprietresses or Proprietrix. That's a weird word. Proprietrices. Propriet, yeah. Why is there three?
00:05:20
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What if you're a non-binary proprietor? Propriet X. Propriet X.
Gender Neutral Terms Debate
00:05:30
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Yeah. We won't get into that. That's for another podcast. And no reading into that. That did not mean anything one way or the other. No, no, no. Just raising your question. Yeah. Cause there is no gender neutral proprietor. Wow.
00:05:51
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under neutral version of proprietor. The internet's got all the answers. Can a female provider be called a proprietor? Is proprietor gender neutral?
00:06:11
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In contemporary usage, a female proprietor would be proprietor. Generally speaking, when one's gender has no bearing on the occupation in question, the correct practice is to use one term to emphasize the occupation and ignores the gender. All right, proprietor. Proprietor is...
00:06:28
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Proprietor is a gender neutral term that can be used to describe anyone who owns and manages a business or property. On the other hand, Proprietrix is a term used specifically for a female owner and manager. Essentially, Proprietrix is the female version of Proprietor. Proprietrix sounds like a bad
00:06:52
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Bad word. Yeah. Like a dominate tricks or like a, like a trick. Yeah. Like turn in a trick. Yeah. I suppose if you want to, um, delineate, you know, that you're a female owner, you could use that. Yeah. Yeah. To make it known. Uh, so we digress. Yeah.
00:07:16
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I'm bumping into the microphone.
Salon Job Updates
00:07:20
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Still never got shock mounts for these multiple years later. So yeah, we're back out tomorrow to the salon job. Probably, I'd say it'd be like our second to last or we're likely there will be three more visits, including tomorrow. Tomorrow we'll have a cleanup visit and then there's always a cleanup, cleanup visit.
00:07:42
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Yeah. Well, we'll hang those shelves, but on the side panels, you'll finish up that wash station. Yep. Um, pop what we can pop on the doors at this point. I think, uh, can get that, that countertop rough put together. Oh, is this Angela? Just email. Uh, ain't it.
00:08:10
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Plaza has to be to the ceiling. It's an angled ceiling. You rock. Yeah. People wanting things that we don't do. Nothing's easy. Uh, well yeah, we get that countertop shaped out. There's jogs around, around a corner, get the brackets in.
00:08:40
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relatively light day. The, um, the backwash are going pretty easy now that they moved that plumbing on a notch out one of the legs. Oh geez. Picked up some Azek for that because we ran out of compact laminate and we're not waiting eight weeks for
Material Cost Comparisons
00:08:56
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it. But is there sandpaper in the van? Yeah, but we better pack some. I think I used a bunch of it. Remind me tomorrow morning at seven AM to pack sandpaper in a block plane.
00:09:10
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clean up the, um, the edges on that. It looks, the Azek looks basically just like the compact one. Um, and it's going to be an end panel where you're not going to see, you're not going to see them next to each other. Really. Well, we probably should have used for the whole thing. It would have been nice. That sheet was 180 bucks versus, uh, 600. No,
00:09:39
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What's 32 times 22? Wow. That's a lot. Yeah. Yeah. 700 something. Yeah. It's probably close to 700. Six high sixes. 704. Yeah. So that sheet would have been 704 for a compact laminate. Plus you probably put it in a van by yourself. I took it out of the van, put it on the soil by myself. No problem. Yeah.
00:10:08
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versus $22 a square versus less than six. And easier to work, way lighter, could screw it, nail it, glue it, anything you want. You could get it in three-quarter inch, one inch. Yeah, I think they make it thicker than that too. Cut it like a breeze. Yeah, it's super soft, but it's soft, but it's not, I don't know, it doesn't really dent. I mean, I guess it does if you hit it with something real hard,
00:10:37
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The compact line is just stupid. Yeah, it's got some elasticity to it, I guess. Yeah. So I'll be glad to knock that out. Working on the oak cabinets, getting those moved along, getting some more oak coming in early next week.
00:10:56
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was the I thought I thought they had pictures of the packs. He said, let me say a couple hundred board feet. Boy, is that Louis Lumber? Yeah, I could do a few a few hundred board feet for five eighty five board foot. Most of what I have here right now is 10 footers, if that matters. Thinking delivery will likely be Tuesday, he said. So they're probably going to pick out a couple of packs and then a pack.
00:11:27
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And then send over some numbers of 585 board foot is not too bad for reasonable five quarter flat cut. Yeah. Um, yeah, we ran through probably, uh, what was there? 150 board feet. Yeah.
00:11:47
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So I'll get another 200 and we got this historical society job, which they were supposed to drop off check today. They didn't drop off. Well, I guess the day's not over yet, but I don't foresee that happening, but we need that material for that anyway. I know that this client is anxious to get these done. She thinks she had a different expectation than what I explained in terms of timeline. I was like, yeah, you know, get started.
00:12:17
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We'll get started on your job in a couple of weeks. Yeah. All she heard was the couple of weeks part, probably. Yeah. Um, but not a ton more time on that. Got to make some finished samples. Yeah. Hopefully, uh, be nice and simple. Yeah.
00:12:40
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Yeah, I did send
Mudroom Job Design Details
00:12:41
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off a piece of this crown molding to Chris over at United Finishes. We supposed to be doing, I sent revised drawings over to Eric. I have not heard back. I made it, made it look closer to the kitchen. So the job, the mudroom job that we just did, like, I feel like the power button on this thing doesn't work.
00:13:08
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Um, the mudroom job we just did, there we go. They, um, they want to do a little, a window seat. Um, and the original drawing I did was like super quick and dirty and, uh, this,
00:13:34
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just sort of like flat panel. And like, I'm just thinking about, I'm like, this looks stupid, doubled up rails and styles and all that. So we went back. Does it need to rework? I mean, how much better does that look? Oh, that's, that's much more in line with the stuff that's there too. Yeah. This just doesn't look good.
00:13:57
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Um, so I redesigned the bench. I made it, you know, real life where it's actually mitered and all that versus, you know, a three sided thing with grain running in one direction. Um, where's it going with this?
00:14:15
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Oh, they want to match the color of the top to some cabinets that they had for like the scullery. And I think maybe there's they have that's they have like in the kitchen, they have those towers and they have oak doors inside of a white. It's a little bit weird looking. It's very weird looking with a white drawer at the bottom. I was like, are those like temporary doors? But anyway, it's called Kodiak from Signature
00:14:46
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cabinets or something like that, signature line cabinets. Um, so I sent a piece off to Dan and he's going to send it to general finishes and we'll get a match recipe cooked up in the, um, the dye stain, which is, we were talking about that.
00:15:06
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two weeks ago. The no wipe dye stain. Yeah. So you spray it on. And I mean, that's what this, this looks like a, like a dye, but what the hell do I know? But it's a pretty consistent color. Yeah. That's what makes me think it's a dye.
00:15:35
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because it's so saturated. But who knows? It could be, it could be like toned on top of it. I don't know. Um, we got a can of the Enduro pro series, uh, clear poly and flat in today. You know, we previously tried the Amber, which was too Amber. So this, this I'm thinking for
00:16:02
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Donna, maybe shoot a 50 50 blend of amber and clear. And do a clear and then do a clear, maybe some white in it. I don't know. I don't know what kind of white. Mix in all the general finishes stains you can. You can use as a toner with
00:16:33
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They say 10% stain into the top coat. I forget. Um, had to maybe pick Dan's brain. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so we'll see what that make those samples. Hopefully she goes with some, something simple with how much protesting and though, and the white is the Chantilly. Yeah. Chantilly lace again on the,
00:17:03
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on the painted stuff.
Window Seat Redesign
00:17:04
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So it's a white, you know, shaker-y inset bench in a bay window. Um, and yeah, it went with like the doors inside of the face frame thing, which I don't understand why everybody does that, but I mean, it looks, it looks nice. It just doesn't make any sense. Like why is the end panel look like a door inside of a frame?
00:17:32
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Yeah. Well, we know because it's that's makes it easier for them to order the generic stuff and just put it together. So this would be a drawer and a drawer. Let's go to two drawers on the sides and then just a little lift up lid on the middle. Nice and easy. And then we got to rework.
00:18:02
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The mud room, which, you know, didn't go wall to wall and didn't go to the ceiling. And now they want it to go wall to wall and to the ceiling. So we've got to do that. Which shouldn't be too bad. It's mostly finishing on that. But if we're going to be spraying this bench anyway, then that's a big deal. Wonder what the floor is like over there.
00:18:32
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It's nice and flat. Maybe that's where that quarter round come back. Oh, where there's benches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it looks good. What are the angles there at the window? Uh, like 40 degrees. Oh, that's uh, huh.
00:19:06
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130 and a half. You want to do it that way? This side is a half degree off of that. 131. That's the one thing about fusion and angles. It gets, I don't know what's going on with this wall right here. What the hell happened? What is that?
00:19:37
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Some kind of weird artifact. Um, the angles on fusion get a little wacky sometimes because they deal in the 360 degree. Yeah. Angles when we, you know, we typically only deal up to 90. Um, and then you're just your point of reference changes, but the terminology remains 90 and less.
00:20:11
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So it gets confusing. I measured these as 40. Yeah. Cause what are you going past 90 to the one 31 30 and a half. I had to, what was it? So I had 40 and a half 90 minus 40.5 plus one eighties. I didn't know. Uh, one 80 minus 40.5.
00:20:41
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No, that's not it. How the hell did I do that? 90 plus 40.5. That's what it was. I had to add 90 degrees to it. Yeah. Which I don't know why. Maybe, uh, I was using that miter saw thing, but I had it on single cut.
00:21:12
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Oh yeah, it's because it's 40 and a half off of this line. Not off the back wall. Oh wait, no. Perpendicular to this line. This is 40 and a half.
00:21:33
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So if you took this line and squared it perpendicularly off the wall, then that's 40 and a half right there. We're gonna add that 90 back in to get all the way over to here. Should've paid attention to math class. I say that all the time. It was like, I can still see my stupid junior in high school self going, I'm not gonna ever need this, you know, when I was in geometry. Oh yeah.
00:22:04
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Yeah, that was like my worst math class too. It was geometry backyard. It's this goddamn black cat back there. Must Mike. Yeah, there it is. Right by the door. Always freaking cat. Oh, it looks like it's got something. Oh. Nope. No.
00:22:35
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Just strolling around. Yeah.
SimpliSafe Camera Issues
00:22:40
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Put the replacement, simply safe cameras up today. Yeah. Work in the charm. Two of one, two, three, four, five went bad. Just shit the bed.
00:22:52
Speaker
They sent out new ones, which is cool. But then they sat here for a couple of weeks because who's got time to, you know, climb on the ladder. Yeah. Um, so finally got those back up today. And then we got another one that seems like it's no good. So I don't know. I think simply safe will be sponsoring the podcast.
00:23:11
Speaker
No, I even went up on the roof to check the little solar panels, adjusted them a little bit to go with the winter sun direction. Let's see if that helps any. The wand is already wheezing and gagging. Yeah, it's completely offline.
00:23:38
Speaker
I don't know if that means it's already dead. I don't see how the battery could have died already, but yeah. But I put a fresh battery in the last time and it died within like a day, which is, which they said means, I don't know, something's wrong. Well, no, it's connected. This simply safe shit sucks.
00:24:02
Speaker
Now front right is offline, right there. Connection error, unable to connect to wifi. It's like, it's 15 feet away from our router. So annoying. And we pay 30 bucks a month for monitoring. Yeah. Well, Oh, that's good. That's doing us.
00:24:26
Speaker
Well, we had that smoke detector thing that was, you know, that that a let alone. I mean, nothing else that was worth it. And when the alarm goes off, you know, they they look at the cameras and see what's going on. Yeah. So. I mean, I have my I have it set so that if it goes off and I'm and I'm in do not disturb, it still goes off. But God forbid, slept through it or something. And oh, yeah, somebody broke in, they would send the cops.
00:24:57
Speaker
Yeah, that's pretty cool. So I mean, simply safe here. What's the alternative is like this ring makes a similar product. Yeah. Ring blink. Uh, there's a bunch of different ones. I don't think ring has, um, uh, what's it called monitoring ring. Yeah.
00:25:25
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So I cut up all that, uh, that oak and, uh, I could feel maybe that blade needs a little bit of sharpening. The, um, ripping blade. Yeah. Yeah. We should probably get a, um, what's it called a more of a dedicated ripping blade. Yeah. And you know where we're going to send it. I had a feeling this was a segue.
Ridge Carbide Sponsorship
00:25:53
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00:26:17
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00:26:49
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Mostly Oak this week. Yeah. Um, yeah, it was, uh, chatting back back and forth with Paul. He, uh, he said he enjoyed listening to the podcast. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Um, yeah. We're not just, uh, um, advertisers for Ridge. We're actual users of the product. Yeah. Um, and found some,
00:27:17
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I don't think there was any ridge blades in there, but found a stash of blades that we were looking for. That's funny, right? Because last week we were like, where are all those blades? We must have given them away or something. Yeah. When I went looking for that non-ferrous metal blade, I knew for sure that they had to be somewhere because we wouldn't have gotten rid of that. Yeah. Had to cut some brass. So we
00:27:40
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made this island over at the salon. So the main material we're using is Tafissa Crossflower, which is kind of like this linen-like
00:27:56
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pattern TFL. And then everything else is for mica pecan wood line it's called, which is just like a really straight grained, um, I guess it's supposed to resemble pecan wood. I don't know. It's the color of like a pecan shell. Yes. Um, you know, I could be by the nuts in a, in a never nuts in the shell in a bag. Um, have you ever seen a real pecan? Oh yeah. Yeah. You never bought the bag of nuts in a shell.
00:28:26
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Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's that tan brown oval shape, doesn't it? Uh, yeah. Like, uh, you know, almost like a capsule shape. Yeah. Um, and really smooth, like really smooth on the outside. Yeah. It does look pecan colored. Yeah. Let me see what pecan wood looks like. Oh yeah. No, it doesn't look anything like that. No.
00:28:54
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Not, but not pecan nut. Yeah. That's not what I remember them look like. I thought they would be a little bit lighter. Yeah. Like this. There you go. Yeah.
00:29:11
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Um, so it's sort of that color, really straight, straight grained pattern. Um, so on the, on the Island, the back panel is like, we call it 110 inches and 60
Salon Island Design
00:29:26
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or 70, 72 inches of it is frost flower. And then it changes over to pecan and there was a two inch reveal. It was called on the drawings between and, um,
00:29:41
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That's what the designer had put in there was two inches. And then we talked about it and we decided to shrink it down, but then that never made it to revisions for the CNC guy. So it got cut. And then, I don't know, something happened where the whole thing grew by a little bit and it ended up two and a half. So it was like, it looked too wide. Um, so, and it was black. So it was like a two and a half inch black.
00:30:05
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reveal, set back three-eighths. So what she wanted to do was match what we had everywhere else is where we had this three-eighths inch black reveal, like underneath the countertops and stuff, and between the back things on the Bankette. So now it's cross flower, three-eighths inch black, then it's like an inch and
00:30:37
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I'm not going to do the math, but then it's a strip of pecan, then it's three aces of brass, and then it continues on to the rest of the pecan.
00:30:47
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So I had to cut this brass, which is just like some leftover piece from a chrome bolt from the cherry thing that we built with that one. When shooting. Oh, yeah. Forgot all about that. Yes, we have a blade that's in a manna. Maybe if we had a rich carbide, it would work better. Yeah. Having a manna blade that we bought just for cutting brass and
00:31:13
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I was, I was ripping it down from five A's down to three A's. And it was only, you were doing that. Yeah. Only, um, five, 16 sticks, something like that. Yeah. Not very thick, but it was like a semi-circular cross section. Um, so I was, I ripped one side, I was ripping the first side down to, I went from five A's to half to three A's. So I'm ripping the first side to half.
00:31:40
Speaker
And I got to like the last six inches and it was just wanting to lift up. And I was using one of those John Peters push sticks that's been chewed up to no end. So it just had like a very small area to push down. And it just, I lost control of it. And it went shooting underneath the edge banner. It's just one of those where, you know, it's starting to go and you just step, time to step to the side.
00:32:10
Speaker
And just let it go because because there's nothing you can do to stop it. Yeah. Yeah, especially a piece of brass. It's like 40 inches long. Yeah. All you hear is some noise. You just hope it's not coming your way. Yeah.
00:32:36
Speaker
Yeah. I thought it was going to do some damage, but no, it didn't. It didn't at all. No. Um, so yeah, that was like a little bit wacky. I had the mica. I took a piece of three ASMDF mic at one edge, mic at the face, and then I cut a rabbit in it and then epoxy the piece of brass into that rabbit, like right on the edge.
00:32:56
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And the epoxy, I don't know, we got this whole can of West systems and I think it's just lost all bonding, anything. It doesn't work anymore. Granted, you know, it was only clamped up for two hours or something like that, but I feel like, you know, why is it kicking the cup, but it's not dry? Yeah.
00:33:18
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We've had, we've asked that question of that stuff before. Yeah. Um, so I ended up funny enough, funny, funnily enough, filling, uh, because it had that semi-circular shape. There was still, you know, the edges weren't like, which is probably has something to do with the two, you know, on the backside.
00:33:39
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there's a radius. So it wasn't like fully contacting on the bottom. Although the edge, I made sure to glue the edge. Um, I basically, I just filled the crack with CA glue. There you go. It's not going to go anywhere. It's going to be underneath of an overhang where nobody's even going to be touching it, let alone barely even looking at it. So I wonder if they'll have that fancy coffee machine there when we go tomorrow.
00:34:10
Speaker
Hmm. I think they might've installed the stone. I'm not sure. Oh, they did. Oh, we could still get in from the inside. Yeah. Oh, hopefully. If not, we're going to huckle that thing on. Hopefully it's not too thick. It's too thick and I have to run it through the table. So
00:34:29
Speaker
Oh, I hope it's not too thick because then we have to take the table saw out of the van. We'll just bring it on the next trip. Yeah. It's more work to get that thing out of the van. Yeah. Because you got to move everything that's up there at the front of the van. Yeah. Yeah. It's painted in the one of those little festival. It was hanging from the roof job site. Yeah. Um,
00:34:59
Speaker
Man, before we know it's going to be 2024. I know. 24 is about the temperature that it was this morning. Yeah. Yeah. It was cold. And my truck turns off after 10, like if I do a self-start, yeah, 10 minutes, it shuts off. 10 minutes isn't enough.
00:35:19
Speaker
Doesn't get the heat going in there. No. You know, this is going to sound like I'm really a whiny brat, but you know, one complaint I have with my car is that I can't turn on the seat warmers remotely.
00:35:36
Speaker
If, I mean, if you can, if you can, I don't know how to, I can start. Don't we have an app? Yeah. And there's, I can't find any place that'll let me turn the seat warmers on.
00:35:53
Speaker
It's a first world problem. It's war in the Middle East. People don't have clean drink and water. Yeah. And I can't get my seat, can't turn my seat warmers on remotely. I feel like they don't work unless you're like sitting, unless there's pressure sitting on them. I can't get it wrong.
00:36:17
Speaker
I don't have seat warmers. That's true. That's kind of embarrassing to talk about. Yeah. This is, this is my first call with seat warmers. My Lincoln had seat warmers. Yeah.
00:36:35
Speaker
I've been actually trying to get the wife to drive my car. Good luck. Yeah. She, she just doesn't adapt to new things, but you know, she would, she would enjoy it more than me. You know, I don't really appreciate.
00:36:51
Speaker
Just a car was there to adapt to a like she can't figure out like the steering Yeah, not the steering the you know the shifting that's up on the stick there throws her off Yeah, but they only got to do it one time. I know and it's it's written right on there, too. Yeah but Yeah, so Yeah, one of these days I'll get her in there
00:37:19
Speaker
Um, I think she was going to take, um, you know, she's got, she's drives, uh, um, facade.
00:37:28
Speaker
And it's, it's getting close to that, you know, cars have like that expiration date on them now. It's like all of a sudden they, they cost more to keep than, than to get rid of it. I have a feeling that the Passat's headed there very shortly. It doesn't take long. Yeah. So, um, I was telling her, you know, that maybe we'd get rid of, if we get rid of the Passat, she could take my car and then I would just get another truck.
00:37:59
Speaker
Oh, so you get to get two new cars in a row and she doesn't see where this is going. I never thought of it that way. I can bet that she has.
00:38:13
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Like I got in trouble for buying a tonneau cover for my truck after. Advice from a married man. I needed it. You got a new truck and you bought a cover for it? I'm like, yeah. What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:34
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But, uh, yeah, it's funny cause we got that car, um, right at the height of when there were no cars. So everything was expensive. There was, there was nothing available. So we wound up get picking up a Mercedes and my wife is the one that kind of picked it out. So, and yet she's yet to drive it. Not even once. No.
00:39:02
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I mean, even my wife's driven my truck several times. So she's like, I think I want to get a truck next time. And then she's like, I hate my car. I'm like, since fucking way you picked it out. It's brand new. Yeah. Yeah. That's a nice car. What don't you like about it? I don't like the windshield.
00:39:28
Speaker
That's a good one. Yeah. Um, my wife likes the, um, the facade cause it's got a CD player in it. Oh God.
00:39:42
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And she has this couple of CDs that she listens to all the time. That's a pretty easy fixer. We've got this thing now called iTunes. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, she's, she listens to pan. She's got her own Pandora station and everything now. So, um, I'm thinking that I could really get her moved over to the bends and she could, you know, learn how to use the car play and stuff like that. Yeah. There's no cars with CD players anymore. Yeah. Um,
00:40:12
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And then we'll see what happens. I think she's got, I think she's going to bring the car into the dealer for something or other. And we'll find out what the, what the verdict is. If it's, you know, something that's too costly, then I feel like that thing's in the shop more than any car that I've ever had.
00:40:34
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Even, and like, I had like shitty old cars. Yeah. There's, um, my wife just like, she'll, she'll go to the shop to have them reset the computer, the clock.
00:40:56
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or if there's like, she'll show up at like a box of donuts and ask them to change the wiper blades or something. She's like their veto. Yeah. Except you never brought donuts. Yeah. She's totally high maintenance.
00:41:12
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Oh, Lord. I remember my wife said, what's high maintenance? I'm like, well, if there was a dictionary description and you flipped open to it, they would have your portrait right there. It's like, I don't think I like that.
00:41:33
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That's a moment for introspection. Yeah. Although, you know, to my wife's benefit, like she will like run over a couple of rolls of toilet paper too. Yeah. She's, she's totally helpful in that regard too. So yeah, she's a mixed bag. Like we all are. It's not a malicious high maintenance. No, no. Just some crossed wires.
00:42:01
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Yeah. Yeah. I think we probably all think of their spouses as a high maintenance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Certainly. I'll have their moments. Yes. Yes, indeed.
00:42:19
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Oh man. We should be getting a package from Unida here any day now.
Unida Sander Sponsorship
00:42:24
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So we have, yeah, two of the three by four Sanders, which we, uh, we got to thank them for the Sanders and for being a sponsor of the podcast. We have some, uh, me making some, some reels and stuff coming up, uh, showing the three by four Sanders and how we're using them. Um, but one of the two Sanders is a non vacuum.
00:42:48
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sander, but they sell a conversion kit. So basically you just change the pad. The pad that's on it now has no holes and it doesn't have a vacuum port. But the cool thing about these sanders is that it's just like a new pad and a little thing that goes in. So they're sending that, that over so that we can get the other sander into the rotation. Easy fix. But yeah, I mean, I've been, I've been using that thing a lot. Um,
00:43:16
Speaker
What the hell was I just using it for? It's a great prep tool. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like, you know, we talked about it last week how it's.
00:43:29
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It moves material, but it's not so aggressive that you're going to over sand or, you know, put big swirl marks or anything like that into your, into your workpiece. Yeah. Um, I never used a, you know, a three by four before. And, uh,
00:43:48
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I really like it as it's, you know, it's totally different than the random orbit. And I think, did you hear my shoulder? I did. I'm pretty sure that picked it up on there. I heard it all the way over here. Yeah. You know, we had never tried it until Chris and Dan brought, brought one over different from a different company. Yeah. Which apparently they're coming off the same.
00:44:12
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Well, I should have maybe, I don't know. They have remarkably similar to one another. Yeah. They're coming from the same area. We could say that same, uh, you know, they're, they're, I don't know what to tell them. I'm trying to say vicinity zone. They're definitely, they're definitely made with some of the same parts and stuff. I don't know, you know, how much further it goes from that, but they, they look very, very similar. Um,
00:44:41
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I don't remember where I was going with that. I have no idea. We were just discussing the virtues of our unity. Yeah. Oh, we were saying, yeah. So Chris and Dan brought a sander. So we tried it out then, you know, and they took us to school on prepping
00:45:05
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shake her doors and then, you know, we got schooled again when we went to spray day with Nate and just really solidifies how good it is to have a three by four sander. You can't go back. It's like flying first class. You can't go back to coach after you fly first. Yeah. It's like, no, no. And it's not even like it's a like first class to coach. It's like, well, you know,
00:45:34
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you're still getting to the same place. Well, I guess technically you could do it by hand and get to the same place, but you know, if you want to get the best possible finish, like it's really important that you use a three by four standard to get inside of these panels corners. You know, you can get there by hand, but it's going to take a lot longer. It's going to be a big pain in the ass. And then by the time, you know, you get to door number 25,
00:46:04
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by hand, you're probably going to phone it in. And then, you know, when you get to spraying, it's like, Oh, well, that's good enough. That's the thing. I mean, if you're, you know, doing one door, two doors, then these things don't matter so much. But if you're in a, in a shop with any sort of production, all that stuff gets multiplied. Yeah. And even, you know, once you do, once you have it, it's like,
00:46:33
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It makes one or two doors easier and faster. And then any seconds that you can shave off anywhere is all for the better.
Supply Stock Logistics
00:46:41
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And actually speaking of Unita, I did order some sandpaper too on their Black Friday deal. Oh, nice. Which is pretty good. 45 bucks shipped. There you go.
00:47:04
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And that's $15 shipping. It was $27.76 for two boxes. Oh, $3.20. But where is the... I guess it didn't ship yet. I love having sandpaper when I need it. Yeah. It's just one of those things.
00:47:31
Speaker
It's like sandpaper and screws, you know, there's nothing like having the right screw and the right grid of sandpaper. We got some screws coming tomorrow. We needed inch and a quarter pocket screws and I got, um, cause it's free shipping at a hundred and five carton of 5,000 pocket screws was like 85. Amazing. I got, um,
00:48:00
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some two and a quarter. They got two and a quarters and, uh, eight, eight by two and a quarter. Thank you. Yeah. Which is the size that we haven't had, uh, which we used to have with the McFeely stuff, but I got a bag of 500 full. Uh, 4,508 by one and a quarter or 82 bucks. Cause that's why, I mean, we go through those like water.
00:48:31
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Yeah, they go pretty fast. I've got more biscuits coming too from Hay Flugas right out of those. Yeah. 4,500 divided by, you know, 82.35 divided by 4,500. What's that? Like five cents? No. No, less than 1.8 cents. Almost two cents. Yeah. That's why, you know, it cracks me up when I don't.
00:48:54
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Like Rich from Hayflip was like, we got screws. I'm like, you gotta, they don't have the screws. They don't have the same drive size, which is if they had, if they had like what we use, where we use eight by one all the way up to eight by three, all the same T20. Yeah. Or yeah. T20. Yeah. Driver bit. I get it from Hayflip, but they don't.
00:49:17
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Um, not changing bits is a big one. Yeah. But then it's like, you're going to be actually, if anybody was going to be to a behavior for 1.8 cents per screw. Yeah. I'm pretty happy with that. That had, uh, arrangement. Yeah. These screws are great. This is, it was a great phone cam. And now fast go fastener and industrial supply corporation.
00:49:46
Speaker
Uh, free shipping over a hundred bucks. Basically they're, they're in Atlanta. And, uh, like I ordered this on yesterday and we'll get it tomorrow. Yeah, it can't beat that. They have, uh, they have all kinds of stuff. We get the, um, toggles, snap toggles from them. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. I like those.
00:50:15
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They sell 3M camo, pass and master. Oh, there's those snap. Oh, it's cause probably cause they have bits and bits and drivers and heads self tapping trust head.
00:50:40
Speaker
I kind of nerd out on their catalog sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's one here. I guess I get one at the house. Oh yeah. Sometimes I laugh at myself. I'm like, you're reading this catalog for screws. It's an OG washer. Oh, never even heard the hot dip galvanized for plumbing or something.
00:51:10
Speaker
I don't know. Three quarter inch. They're expensive. Buy for $20.
00:51:23
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Not sure what they use those for. They sell nuts. They sell nails tape. Okay. Lock nuts with those little, yeah. X flange nuts. Heavy duty hex nuts. 18 eight stainless hex nuts. Nails. Spiral decking nails. Voice tangas. Also known as Tico nails. I didn't know that.
00:51:53
Speaker
Yeah. An inch and a half by nine. 50 pounds for 123 bucks. A lot of nails. Yeah. Cause a five pound box of nails is the size of that tissue box. That's cause I'm thinking about that. Like I was just at Lowe's this morning down that aisle. 3M double coated. I'm trying to think of what we're going to put Donna's
00:52:26
Speaker
Mirror, uh, mirror wall. Yeah. I was thinking that we would use some kind of tape like that. I keep forgetting about the mirror wall. That might work. I want that for how long?
00:52:51
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That stuff's pretty heavy, too. I mean, they have they have double sided tape like that. Now let's go for outside.
Mirror Wall Installation Considerations
00:53:01
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Actually, Timmy was just using it for some. Oh, yeah. Window grills. Yeah.
00:53:07
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Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, originally she was worried about these things being too big, but I'm like, you're going to have to get in there and clean every single one of these little squares. She was like talking about lattice. I'm like, I'm going to clean 500 two by two squares. Like that's going to make it worse because she was like, it's really hard to keep the glass clean all the time. Like, okay, then.
00:53:30
Speaker
I mean, personally, I would have just gotten rid of the glass, the mirror. Yeah. That's a nice look though. Yeah. Um, I, I like that, um, proportion. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it's a golden rectangle. That'd be close. Cause it's so pleasing to the eye.
00:54:00
Speaker
16 by 23, 24 and a half. Yeah. That's real close. Yeah. Yeah. And they worked out pretty well where it's like, they, it's like three nearly equal, you know, overall widths. These ones are like maybe an inch more narrow inches.
00:54:34
Speaker
separated by the doorway. You really can't tell too much. So what we're talking about is that this hope job with these cabinets, the three, six cabinets that we were talking about last week or two weeks ago, three weeks ago, John, is it what the hell? I think it's four. Is it four? I think it's episode four.
00:55:05
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No, it's three. No. Yeah. We had John and then just us. And then now this is episode three. Oh, season four, episode three. Yeah. Um, she has a wall that's, uh, adjacent to these other pieces that we're building and, um, it's covered with mirror. So she wants to, we wanted to cover it up with like lattice. That'll happen to my window over here.
00:55:35
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But, you know, I said it's not really a great idea because the, um, it's going to make such small squares that you're going to have to try and get in there and clean it. So that's dusting in there. Yeah. Um, little like Wayne's coding kind of thing. It's just oak, like three inch wide oak strips. Yeah. Three inches wide. Um,
00:56:03
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That's just going to go over top. So they make like these, like 16 by 20 squares, one, two, three, four, four by three, and then two by three on the, there's a doorway. Hopefully that made sense. Yeah. Well, it's sort of like, um, a little bit of a facade over the mirrors. Right. Yeah. Just going to be stuck to the mirror somehow, whether that's with mastic or double sided tape. And we use that X fasten tape.
00:56:36
Speaker
I just don't want to create any gaps, you know, like a neat, I want it to be tight against the glass, but I don't know how tight. Yeah. Cause you can kind of that mirror, you know, working on the mirror, you can kind of see it if it's a little bit off. Yeah. And I'm, I'm sure that the mirror is not perfectly flat, but it could be wrong. Oh, uh, Stacy said I could head over any day time this week for the countertop. Um,
00:57:13
Speaker
Well, yeah, I guess it leaves Friday. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. I want, I want you to get some pictures of that.
00:57:31
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send them off to Brian at Fez and see what the deals with that. Maybe we can get her a new countertop. Yeah. Well, I got these inch and a half, like quarter inch lag screws and washer. Better bring some sockets because you're going to have to bring the socket set. And, um,
00:57:59
Speaker
Yeah. Got a butcher block, valley block top that's got a wild cup in it. Yeah. More, more bode wood. Yeah. So, you know, stinky little countertop job for no money turned into probably not costing us money, but getting pretty close. Yeah. Ain't that the way it goes?
00:58:29
Speaker
Yeah. Um, well, we're creeping up on the one hour mark. Yeah. Um, yeah, because there's a, there is a definite, you know, upward swing on that, on that edge. Yeah. It's gotta be 5 16th of an inch off the countertop or something.
00:58:52
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But hopefully, hopefully get that down. Yeah. I can maybe bring it down without ripping the cabinet apart. Yeah. I got to get this, the lags like as close to the edge of the cabinets as possible where the, where the stretchers are attached to the, um, yeah.
00:59:14
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and maybe glue and lag the back with the top with the front edge flying, you know, completely detach that side to suck the back down and clamp the front down. Yeah. That's what I was thinking about was taking the screws out. Yeah. Getting some adhesive in there, you know,
00:59:32
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Yeah, do the entire back edge. Yeah. Get that tight because you can't clamp it. No. And then clamp the front. That's a good idea. And I don't think movement's going to be an issue because those tops are basically riffs on anyway. Yeah. Anyway, with the compressor running, we're going to bid you farewell. You can't hear that. Yeah. You can hear like
00:59:59
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