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Day of the Dead (1985)

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This week on the Everything Actioncast, Zach and Chris head into the zombie apocalypse and discuss George A. Romero's Day of the Dead, which just got a new 4-disc 4K release from Scream Factory [https://amzn.to/3S7XbAV]. The third film in Romero's zombie franchise, Day of the Dead follows a group surviving in an underground facility in Florida.  A group of scientists is studying the dead and trying to find a cure (at least one of them is), while a group of soldiers defends the facility.  When the commanding officer, Major Cooper, dies, the sadistic Captain Rhodes (Joseph Pilato) takes over, and things in the shelter quickly go downhill.  One of the scientists, Dr. Logan aka Frankenstein (Richard Liberty) has been experimenting on the zombies and has seemingly domesticated a zombie named Bub (Sherman Howard) who shows glimmers of remembering his old, human life.  Zach and Chris discuss the clashing philosophies of the different factions, the incredible special effects from Tom Savini, the variety of wacky zombies in the horde, random alligators, and more. You can watch Day of the Dead in the new 4K release or on Peacock, Tubi, Shudder/AMC+, Pluto TV, and The Roku Channel.  Next week, with Supergirl hitting theaters, we're revisiting the original 1984 movie starring Helen Slater. We want to hear your comments and feedback.  Send them all to contact@everythingaction.com.  Also, let us know your movie suggestions for us to discuss. Please subscribe, rate, and review us on Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/everything-actioncast/id368044198?ls=1&mt=2)], Amazon Music, [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9f9a5ed7-32c4-4a81-8b70-8df6c7a59c70/Everything-Actioncast] Spotify [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9f9a5ed7-32c4-4a81-8b70-8df6c7a59c70/Everything-Actioncast], or wherever you get podcasts.  You can also find the podcast on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@everythingaction4636]. Check us out on Twitter (@evaction [https://www.twitter.com/evaction]), Facebook (www.facebook.com/everything.action [https://www.facebook.com/everything.action]), Threads [https://www.threads.com/@everything.action], Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/everythingaction.bsky.social], and Instagram (@everything.action [https://www.instagram.com/everything.action/]).

Transcript

Zach Sheets: Hello and welcome to the Everything Action Cast podcast week of June 15th, 2026. I'm your host, Zach.

Chris Prime: And your co-host Chris.

Zach Sheets: And this week we are heading into the zombie apocalypse and talking about Day of the Dead, which just this week got a fancy new 4K collector's edition from Scream Factory. It's a big four-disc set. It's got like lobby cards and all kinds of special features on it. So definitely the best way you you've been able to watch, uh, the other dead, up to this point.

Zach Sheets: Cause there are some, there are various ways of watching this movie as we've discovered rewatching this, right, Chris?

Chris Prime: oh yeah. In a chance of like, how do I want to stream this? And just kind of taking your luck online to see who can give you this movie the most available.

Chris Prime: The fact that like, if you weren't really following the releases well, you can get really confused of the quality of this movie.

Chris Prime: And just the presentation, how you would watch this and Thank God I watched this earlier when it was just like on cable. So you just caught it and it's like, here's just a movie, you know, no, nothing it's just here it is. Enjoy it. If not, whatever.

Chris Prime: But now with the option of the internet of just, oh, how do you want to choose your movie watching experience? It's like, oh, oh no, what's this?

Zach Sheets: Well, yeah's specifically the Tubi version we were talking about before we started recording is apparently it's part of the Shelt Factory's VHS Vault series where they make it look, they basically like give you like the VHS copy streaming to kind of like give you like an old school like viewing experience. But then if you if that's like your first time watching it, you're very confused because there's like tracking across the bottom screen and then it's like the quality is like you're like, is it buffering? Is like internet bad? like What's going on with this?

Chris Prime: And there's nothing that tells you on Tubi that you're watching that version. It's just sort of like whatever it has in its library just here it is. Enjoy the movie.

Zach Sheets: but it it is see it is is surprising everywhere it's on shutter it's on peacock it's on like pluto it's on like pretty much every streaming platform except for like netflix

Chris Prime: But yeah.

Chris Prime: think I think it's free on YouTube through Shout Studios also.

Zach Sheets: yeah

Chris Prime: It's a full movie.

Zach Sheets: So yeah, there's no shortage of places can watch Day of the Dead. And now you can get the big 4K release too. But yeah, the third movie in George Romero's iconic Night of the Living Dead series, and apparently his favorite one of the original three,

Chris Prime: of the Dead series?

Zach Sheets: I don't know. It's... I've seen, like, Night of the Living Dead series. I've just seen, like, of the dead. don't know. and don't I'm not sure. Like, people have different ways describing the the franchise.

Chris Prime: And then even Romero's like zombie movies, they they and like he made more. He made more than just these three zombie movies.

Chris Prime: So it's not like oh he only name it's not like like George Lucas where it's like his other star like sci-fi movies and it's like, well, yeah, he did do those, but he has he's known for this.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: Romero's known for his zombie movies, but he did do pre-zombie movies early in his career, too, that I have not seen. But I'm interested in like seeing you know other works from him.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, and he did... So Dawn of the Dead was 1978, and then Day of the Dead was 85. And between Dawn of the Dead and this a Day of the Dead, he did Knight Riders, the like crazy...

Zach Sheets: like modern jousting Ed Harris. It's like reis like Renaissance fair people on motorcycles jousting each other. and then Creep...

Chris Prime: That's gotta be crazy. I mean, like, I forget that movie exists, and it's like, where can I watch that one?

Zach Sheets: And Creepshow, obviously, was like we between the two.

Chris Prime: Yeah, and, I mean, I like that during this time, he didn't just make zombie movies, you know? Like, he made other projects he probably supervised, and he wrote stuff. Like, he wrote a lot of scripts and, like, ideas. Yeah.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: So i always I always like to credit him with like saying that he always liked to tell like different versions of like human struggle. Just his horror zombies have been his like strengths.

Chris Prime: And Day of the Dead is a different examination of, I guess, humanity at its worst. But then... and don't know, it introduces a lot of concepts and it it kind of gets thrown out the window by the end, but it's like, it sort sort of like sprinkles it in.

Zach Sheets: Well, definitely, it's, i mean, it's smaller scale, id say, than Day the Dead, because Day the Dead was, like, hundreds of zombies in this mall. And then Day the Dead is, like, much more, like, intimate, where it's, like, these, like, dozen characters in this, like, underground facility.

Zach Sheets: And it doesn't really get, like, it doesn't really get, like, huge until the end, where, like, all the zombies come in.

Chris Prime: this is all about the, like, kind of the best parts of Night a Living Dead, where it's that tight quarter space, the phobia of who you can trust, and And then everyone's got different survival ideologies where some people survive because they have hope. Some people survive because it's an order.

Chris Prime: And some people just are just doing their best to follow like the status quo or follow the like power dynamic. And you get different examples of characters that probably are deeper in meaning, but in a surface level is just simple to understand. Where it's like, scientists good, military people bad?

Zach Sheets: I mean, scientists are either there's kind of good, but they're doing horrible things.

Chris Prime: Well, I mean, one scientist is everything everyone else is.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: I don't even know what the other scientist was doing. He just seems like...

Zach Sheets: The third guy, Ted or whatever his name is, I just like Fisher.

Chris Prime: Fisher.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, he's like, just like swish kevils between beakers. don't know what I'm doing.

Chris Prime: Yeah, I don't know, like, of the other people, like, the other, so was it Sarah?

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: She's doing something?

Zach Sheets: she's trying to She's trying to find a cure for the the zombie infection, whatever it is.

Chris Prime: Well, if she is, then she needs to actually stay in the lab, because I don't know what she's doing.

Zach Sheets: she's She's all over the place. we started We started the lab once.

Chris Prime: She's... And then even then, she's not doing lab work, she's just there.

Zach Sheets: think she's like spitting blood around in like a centrifuge.

Chris Prime: like Then it's like, what's Fisher up to? Is he trying to make a cure? he kind of does not mention his research whatsoever. We're doing science here. Okay, what's the science?

Zach Sheets: And

Chris Prime: science

Zach Sheets: then Dr. Logan, a.k.a. Frankenstein, is just, you know, going full mad scientist and chopping zombies up. He's like, hey, look, i I took out all the zombies' organs. He's still like moving around. Isn't that cool?

Chris Prime: It's funny to think that he never showed the research until like this point. and And don't know how long they've been in this bunker together, but I think I think it was like three years.

Zach Sheets: The guy...

Chris Prime: like i think they've spent time there.

Zach Sheets: and like the like The guy before Rhodes took over, Major Cooper, just never asked any questions. He's like, eh, you guys are doing fine. i ahll I'll be worried about my guys. and I won't worry about the scientists.

Chris Prime: Yeah, well, Major Cooper also dropped the ball. Like, there should have been a kind of hint that maybe Cooper was on board with Frankenstein, or or maybe he found out and Frankenstein had to take him out.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: So it's like, you know, you're there's like no one's good, at least in that party.

Zach Sheets: Well, this whole, the whole setup is like who, I guess it was like a government program. They like, we need, we need these scientists and these soldiers to protect them to kind of like come up with a cure or like, like work in Florida, like this bunker. but like, who set, like who set that up? Cause like society like already collapsed by time, like Dawn of the dead was like, you know, years before this.

Chris Prime: Well, it's supposed to be what, seven years after Dawn?

Zach Sheets: That's what Wikipedia says. i don't think people are not, I don't think it's like 100% clear, but that's what Wikipedia says.

Chris Prime: Yeah, yeah. They really should have been... Well, they kind of do say that they were talking to malls. This group said that three years ago they talked to the malls.

Zach Sheets: The malls are all closed now.

Chris Prime: Yeah, like the whatever the mainland grid is or maybe just something... They were overrun. Everyone had to go to the mall ideas. So... Uh, I, I do like that little detail cause it, it gives you like a like a clue of what's going on, but doesn't really tell you.

Chris Prime: So you're able to just and like have that information to see if it connects, but not really. It's not like, Oh yeah, we saw like, you know, uh, another helicopter fly by and or it's like, uh, anything from night of living dead.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: there's no like returning thing.

Chris Prime: So, I mean, again, I think I saw this movie first in the trilogy. i had no idea about, like, the Night of the Living Dead.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: think I saw this, then Dawn, then eventually Night. So...

Zach Sheets: You know, it's weird as, like, Knight kind of seems like... humanity had, like, like by the end the movie, like, we had it kind of under of control. Like, we were, like, like we had giant bonfires full of zombies. Like, it's like, oh, the Red X killed them all. That's, like, they're gone.

Chris Prime: Thank you, Rednecks.

Zach Sheets: But then, like, Dawn Dead, it's like, oh, no, they're all, like, it got worse.

Chris Prime: Well, I think what happened is like they got too cocky that they like dealt with it, and it probably came back way worse because everyone let their guard down. or you know they're just like It'd be funny if we just like wrangle them all up and put them in a like one location, and then they just spread like wildfire.

Zach Sheets: Hmm.

Chris Prime: So it's just like, oh no, they're in the woods and now they're underground. cause I could see humanity having hubris. it's like This movie also is about like hubris. because everyone thinks they are in control, but then, like, whatever is gonna happen found a way.

Chris Prime: But it it it definitely is, like, multiple blame. Like, everyone besides, i don't know, Flyboy and, uh, uh, Bill, like, they they they were just hanging out in their, like, cabin together, you know?

Zach Sheets: Bill.

Chris Prime: They...

Zach Sheets: Yeah, they're like they're like a weird third fashion because you have like you have the so you have the military soldiers and you have the scientists and then like Flyboy and Bill are kind just hanging out like, we don't believe in any of this shit we're you guys are doing. We're just like, like I'll fly the helicopter and that's it.

Zach Sheets: We're going to hang out in our cool trailer that we turned into a tropical kind like tiki bar kind of thing.

Zach Sheets: and just drink brandy from that they found somewhere?

Chris Prime: Well, okay, not to make the Irish actor seem like a token alcoholic, but... Yeah, the they have alcohol that either like they keep scavenging from the like wilderness or whatever, like they keep finding it when they go back into the city or whatever.

Zach Sheets: Well, it seems like the the place that they're, like, so the the top like The top layer of the underground facility is like a like it was like a storage facility for like RVs and boats and cars stuff. So there probably like their pipe was a bunch of stuff just like left behind that they scavenged when they got there.

Zach Sheets: And then then below that is like this research facility, apparently that was there. or yes It was like a it was a document filing storage place because Flyby finds all like the, he's like going through all these like documents of here's all here's all the fire data. Here's all the tax information for these companies. Like here's all it's like.

Zach Sheets: So it was it was it was like it was like a long-term like underground storage facility that they turned like a lab.

Chris Prime: Which I think was like a World War II bunker also. So they were just... It was really like a military facility.

Zach Sheets: yeah i think I think in real life it's actually like it's a mine in Pennsylvania. It's like a wampum mine.

Chris Prime: It's a cool aesthetic.

Zach Sheets: m

Zach Sheets: I love the little... like like Every time you're like in like the cave part, like a bat flies by. noticed that, Chris?

Chris Prime: Yeah, yeah. I don't know if that was like every time they're just releasing bats, or they're just like, run, run, run, and like a bat would come out.

Zach Sheets: I'm sure it's probably just like a... It seems like a fake bat that just like like flew across the screen. Rick and Cotero's running across with like a stick and a bat on it.

Chris Prime: I could see that.

Zach Sheets: Just to be like, hey, we're underground. It's a cave. There's bats here.

Zach Sheets: it also has like the world's strongest fence because there's like hundreds of zombies like pushing on this fence every day, apparently, and they're not getting through we

Chris Prime: I mean, okay, so let's get to the... Okay, what part of... So are we... It's a Florida... Okay, so...

Zach Sheets: Florida-based movie. Yeah.

Chris Prime: It's probably somewhere on the coastline. And then that means it's like hot sun and then strong winds. And these zombies are not rotting fast enough to just be mush. Like they're this movie shows you that the zombies all come in different forms of decay. But there there are obvious zombies that melt it.

Chris Prime: And this horde that is by this base is surprisingly well like sturdy. So they're like they're pushing every day to see if they can get in, but... <unk>re They're also getting in through the cave somehow.

Zach Sheets: Well, i don yeah, don't after getting into the cave, or like they were like letting so they're like lettinging some in so that they can like you know drag them in for their experiment?

Chris Prime: No, no, they're getting to the cave because... When they... Near the end, when they use the same cave exit, it just goes around.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. But any of the ones that get into the cave, they're like capturing them for Frankenstein experiments.

Chris Prime: True, yeah, yeah. They have to like make noise to attract the zombies like further in.

Zach Sheets: They have like the Jurassic Park Velociraptor paddock. They like throw him in like the the like gate thing and but put throw a collar on him.

Chris Prime: So...

Zach Sheets: Which

Chris Prime: Well, like, okay, but so they're rounding up zombies and then they've been doing this for so long, they don't even question what they're doing until this, the start of the movie. They're like, hey, so what are you doing with the zombies? And like, they're just like, blood.

Zach Sheets: Until Rhodes takes over and is like, what the fuck is going on here?

Chris Prime: Which, how did the major Cooper not ask that?

Zach Sheets: like, oh, you're risking my men's lives to capture zombies and drag them down into this lab? or like that's fine That's cool with me.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, see's like Major Cooper just seems like he was like a very lackadaisical dude, just like, whatever. You guys guys just do whatever.

Chris Prime: Yeah, I feel like we're missing and like another part where Frankenstein would have said like, oh, the the major had questions, but then we we found money or something like something to bribe him.

Zach Sheets: o Well, money's probably useless in this world now, it so it's got to be something like booze or some sort of like tangible material thing.

Chris Prime: There's all the zombie meat he can eat.

Zach Sheets: do yeah i do love like Dr. Logan turns like Cooper into experiment. like He like he he's like cuts all of his like face off. and like It's like just his brain is attached to his body.

Chris Prime: think, yeah, just to stimulate the brain, just to see what would happen.

Zach Sheets: who

Chris Prime: I guess. I think it hints that the doctor probably got Cooper killed. and then kept his zombified version alive, and then just gave him, like, a mangled corpse.

Chris Prime: But how mangled was that corpse, and how good was Logan's, like, lie that they're like,

Zach Sheets: Yeah, he he said...

Zach Sheets: And also... ill say like Also, like Logan's like uniform is in his lab, so they didn't bury him in his uniform. like I don't know what they buried him in but it's it's like because It's like, Sarah stumbles across like a jumpsuit that says Logan on it. She's like, oh or cooper she yeah Cooper on it. He's like, Cooper? He's like, oh yeah, this here's the major.

Zach Sheets: Pulls it

Chris Prime: So did he just hand over like a naked corpse and like, oh, he died, you know, like a naked mutilated corpse. And then Logan's just like, that's the major.

Chris Prime: Don't worry that he's definitely not the same height or skin tone or anything, you know, just like you found an exact copy in this cave.

Zach Sheets: Yep. yeah Age,

Chris Prime: See, if anything, she'd been like, oh, Cooper died in an explosion or something.

Zach Sheets: he see He's like, he sent them out to play like, all right, I need to simply find a zombie that looks like Major Cooper. Like, need to find...

Chris Prime: Yeah. Like, that was half the experiment for years.

Zach Sheets: Look for what... yeah

Chris Prime: He's just been trying to find, like, a lookalike.

Zach Sheets: It's very important that you find an old an old an older gentleman that looks like Major Cooper.

Chris Prime: He's to have the same haircut. Because don't forget, they're not cutting hair anymore in this, like... You know, like, the I get that military guys probably just keep it short and trim, but still, like, Cooper... Very specific hairstyle.

Chris Prime: And then that part doesn't come back. Like the the fact that he kept Cooper alive as a like corpse, like a, you know, like, I guess like a experiment doesn't come back to bite him in the ass.

Zach Sheets: I mean, eventually it does like it does because Rhodes eventually finds like his cooler full of, or his freezer full. like He's been using his men as experiments. like like Every time a soldier dies, like he drags them down to their lab and like does something horrible to them.

Chris Prime: But it's not like he he found out that cooler. But I don't think he found... like They didn't go to his lab at all. like They really respected his laboratory.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Prime: Which is surprising for the villains. You figure they'll have a crash out, kind of declare anarchy, and then it's like, we get to patrol, or... They get more of the... the Stanford prison experiment where it's like because they're now the guards and like they're in charge like they get very aggressive and it's like they become basically like fascist where it's like it's nighttime like go to bed or it's like you know they start rationing their food

Zach Sheets: I mean, Rhodes goes there pretty much immediately.

Chris Prime: yeah but that's like a classic power play it's like oh as soon as you're in charge yeah declare yourself like Tsar of the the cave

Zach Sheets: yeah

Zach Sheets: Like, Sarah won't sit down. He's just like, all right, shooter.

Zach Sheets: Shooter, I'll shoot you.

Zach Sheets: This whole thing was kind of doomed to fail because don't know if a bunch of super competent guys died and this is all that's left, but the troops that are with the soldiers that are part of this program are just the worst redneck, dumb, hick soldiers.

Zach Sheets: You have that like, Steel and Rickles and...

Chris Prime: well Okay, so to be fair to to be fair, this is like Florida men, the army squad.

Zach Sheets: It's probably the Florida National Guard something.

Chris Prime: Yeah, like, I think they just grabbed whoever in Florida just said, can you shoot a gun? Great, you're now like a soldier.

Zach Sheets: regarding this like top secret government project that could like save humanity. It's

Chris Prime: Congratulations.

Zach Sheets: like, is there bigger...

Chris Prime: Yeah, like I could see that. like you you do That part, I don't even need like an extra conversation. i could I saw this and just like now as as an an adult, after knowing what Florida's like, it's like, yeah, no, this makes sense. These are just the Floridians who just showed up one day just said, okay, I get a gun. Okay.

Zach Sheets: I do love the extra Florida thing too, where like in the opening, there's like an alligator. It's like coming out of a building.

Chris Prime: Yeah, and it, okay, so I like that part because it's never mentioned. it You could definitely tell it was a stunt gator because it's got its mouth tied up still.

Zach Sheets: Yep.

Chris Prime: And then, i don't know if animals in this universe can get zombie problems. Like, did that alligator eat zombies?

Zach Sheets: Yeah, that's what, like, is it a zombie alligator? Is it just, like, an alligator that is, like, running around zombies?

Chris Prime: It's kind of hanging out.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, because cause i don't I don't think in any of the of the Dead series that there's, like, animals that are, like, running around with zombies.

Chris Prime: They never break that rule. Like, you know, it's a very. It's not like the virus mutates.

Zach Sheets: They don't go for Resident Evil.

Chris Prime: mean, OK, this is still we don't know what the the cause is. you know, is it demons? Is it science? Who knows?

Zach Sheets: Aliens. like

Chris Prime: Yeah, aliens. But I bet you the alligator was not part of that plan.

Chris Prime: But yeah, since we I mentioned about like it being Florida, the zombies are not like rotten. like They're able to just like roam the city.

Chris Prime: And then there are a few zombies that their guts are spilling out. They are like decaying. So I'm like, was it depending on where they get bit, they turn into like crazy? Like if someone bit on the foot, you have like so long before your body rots into nothing?

Zach Sheets: or yeah or yeah Or they they like died and like were in a swap for like a while and they came back or something. They're all bloated from swap water. There's such variety to like the type of zombies that are in like the crowd, too.

Zach Sheets: like you If you you keep spotting new crazy zombies, there's a clown, there's a ballerina, there's a football player, there's like a pizza chef.

Chris Prime: fish I saw there's a fisherman.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Prime: Yeah, it's... That's unlike... Oh, these people have to come from, like, the city and the suburbs that they found their way to the base, that they... I don't know what how much noise they're making at this location where they're attracting this many people.

Zach Sheets: Well, that's because the helicopter's flying They're getting drawn in by the helicopter.

Zach Sheets: Because that's like the only thing that's like really going on outside. They just like land the helicopter and they go underground. so they're not really doing anything like on the surface.

Chris Prime: Oh, I see. Yeah, I guess it's quiet, so they just hear that one noise, and they're like, okay, keep going there.

Zach Sheets: yeah Yeah, just just like spotting new zombies. is such like I think it was just like two different like like like women zombies with like curlers in their hair, think, or something. like just like All kinds of like just like random zombies in the crowd.

Zach Sheets: george George Romero is is is a zombie. it's so At one point, he's got scarf on.

Chris Prime: Was he known for his signature scarf?

Zach Sheets: I think so.

Chris Prime: I kind of remember more in the vest than the glasses era.

Zach Sheets: Like, I think

Zach Sheets: I guess, I mean, that's that's that's how you like distinguish him in this movie, at least. that's like He's like the zombie with the scarf.

Chris Prime: I see.

Zach Sheets: And obviously, the most famous zombie is Bub, we haven't talked about yet, but he's like the icon of this movie. Although, it is it is, like, if you're watching it the first time, you're like, oh, like Bub's the main character. doesn't show up until, like, or he's not like formally introduced like an hour into the movie.

Chris Prime: Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of just the main humans first. And then it's like, oh, by the way, Bubs, I've domesticated a zombie.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, and like, and Bub, like, he kind of like, it's, he remembers like, kind of like basic things. So he can like, he like picks up a razor and he remembers like, oh, this is for shaving. I'm going I put this on my face.

Zach Sheets: I listen to music.

Chris Prime: He can feel...

Zach Sheets: He apparently like, we they think he was in the military because he he salutes when he sees like Rhodes come into the lab. And he knows how cock a gun and like check for bullets.

Chris Prime: But again, he's like a Florida man himself, so...

Zach Sheets: Yep.

Chris Prime: We we don't know.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, is he a soldier, or was he just like like some sort of like just random Florida guy like wrestling alligators or something? or like a poacher? Yeah.

Zach Sheets: He's one of those, like, was it, like, the gator men, like, that channel show.

Chris Prime: oh man I thought you were going to say the one where it's the python killers where they go to the swamp to kill like pythons to like reduce their numbers.

Zach Sheets: o

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Zach Sheets: I think it's also iguanas now. There's so many iguanas down there that you can just, like, kill iguanas whenever you want.

Chris Prime: Damn.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, Bub, probably one of the most famous zombies in movie history.

Chris Prime: Yeah, he's definitely unique from the typical, like, mindless zombie, just because this is a humanized zombie that gives off a lot of emotion for, like, a dead character.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: And, I don't know, he he did i always think I always thought he was Patrick Kilpatrick.

Chris Prime: And you find out that he's not. He's played by an actor named Sherman Howard.

Zach Sheets: who for some reason his credit is Howard Sherman in the movie. That had to be like a typo or something. It's like, oh, someone someone flipped his name in the credits.

Chris Prime: like i could And apparently, like you know he he's been... He's like a lot of other characters. you know he he he It's funny to think that like one of his best live-action roles is a quiet zombie, but then he's played other voice actors and he's done other live-action stuff since then. but just He's so fucking can recognizable to me.

Chris Prime: If bumped it on the street, I wouldn't know that. Hey, are bubs?

Zach Sheets: He was Lex Luthor on Superboy.

Chris Prime: I did not watch Superboy.

Zach Sheets: The bizarre like early 90s Superman show.

Chris Prime: Yep, did not watch that at all.

Zach Sheets: And he was Blight on Batman Beyond, so that's cool.

Chris Prime: That one I did watch. That's pretty cool.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, so, yeah so they're, so Dr. Frank's eye and like like Dr. Logan's like trying to like, he's got Bub, he's like, I'm super proud Bub, like, look it, we can do this for all of them. We can like get all these zombies in here and make them like domesticated. And it was pretty much everyone's just like, that's that's the worst idea I've ever heard.

Zach Sheets: Like no one is on board with this except for Logan.

Chris Prime: Yep.

Zach Sheets: Because like cause sarah but Sarah wants to cure, Rose just wants to kill all the zombies, and like we said, like bill like Bill and Flybar are just like, we don't believe in anything that's going on here. like We would like leave and go to Tropical Island if we could.

Chris Prime: Yeah, it's the different like dueling, i guess, like ideologies of where they want to go. Like how they want to survive. Like who's got the like better instincts.

Chris Prime: It is funny to think that Flyboy and all those guys, they could just leave. like they're just they're what are they They're not getting paid.

Zach Sheets: yeah

Chris Prime: They could just, like next time they're on a mission, just don't come back.

Chris Prime: But I guess they have honor, so that's good.

Zach Sheets: i i i guess i guess i mean, I guess they're in the like a somewhat secure location. so Like, somewhat for say somewhats safe from the zombies.

Zach Sheets: Even though they're like they're like some of them are getting it into the caves, I guess it's not that that great. But it's better than just like being out and wandering the streets of Florida. wherever.

Chris Prime: Well, yeah, it's like trying to find that final place, like a safe haven. But I mean, they don't want to do it alone. I think like the this movie shows that even like in tough times, it's better to have like numbers.

Chris Prime: But I guess it really depends on the quality, because they had like 15 people. Now dwindled it dwindled really quick over like a week.

Zach Sheets: a couple like like a day or two what this seems like yeah

Chris Prime: I think it's like three days at least.

Zach Sheets: and

Chris Prime: I don't know. Yeah, it's like when the beginning of the movie Sarah has the calendar she stares at and it's like Halloween weekend.

Zach Sheets: it's Yeah, October's fully checked off. And then at the end of the movie, when they're on the island, it's like November, and think it's like November 4th or something. is but She checks X's off, so it's yeah it's been like four days.

Chris Prime: Yeah.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: Crazy.

Zach Sheets: yeah think i think things Things start going really bad when like Miguel, who's been just absolutely losing it the entire movie, who is like like Sarah's lover, who lives in the her room with with her but then he's is like of all Of all the people in like this base, like he's the only one that's like it' like really like just like freaking just like losing like losing his mind

Chris Prime: Yeah, it's like, I can't handle it, man. I can't. I can't do this.

Zach Sheets: sobbies yeah

Chris Prime: And then it's like, all right, well, keep doing it making him do more work.

Zach Sheets: make give him Give him the hardest job that you you possibly could, which is, like, corralling the zombies and make sure they don't get loose.

Zach Sheets: and And then, like, one gets loose and, like, kills Gregor Taro and, like, kills, like, another And then Miguel is bitten on the arm and, said like, they have to do, like, a crazy amputation.

Zach Sheets: Like, Sarah's, like, Noah Stations cuts his arm off with a machete.

Chris Prime: Which, i got i don't know, like it's not like proven.

Zach Sheets: And then, like,

Chris Prime: It's not like, alright, if that happens, do it. She just goes, I'm a scientist. I think this would work.

Zach Sheets: I got it quick enough. I got it quick enough before the affection spread.

Zach Sheets: And then I like burn the we burned the shit out of the stump so that it's But that's when like Rhodes is like, alright, you guys, you're done. like We're leaving.

Chris Prime: Which I'm surprised they didn't just like, yeah, we should leave. It's like, no, let's stay. For reasons. I don't know why Rhodes isn't going to like, pack your shit, we're getting out of here.

Chris Prime: But I guess there's nowhere to go. There's not enough like room on the helicopter for everybody.

Zach Sheets: Well, yeah, well, his plan, like, his plan is always, but, like, i think he mentioned it before this part, too, but he's like, um'm um'm I'm going to take all my guys and the helicopter and just leave you all here. Like, you guys just do whatever you want, you like, work with your zombies or whatever, but i I'm taking my guys and leaving.

Zach Sheets: But then the problem is, like, Flyboy is the only person that can fly the helicopter, and he's like, I'm not leaving any, I'm not leaving, like, my friends behind.

Chris Prime: yeah, it's a conundrum because they they should have done that classic logic puzzle where like Rhodes leaves a few men, a few of his men behind and take some of their men and just slowly transport them out.

Chris Prime: But I guess it was like, I hate this place. I hate you guys.

Zach Sheets: Yep.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, he like he blows away Logan because he finds like the the like his guys in the freezer and then like and like also just kills Fisher just like like like like oh, by the way, you're like this guy's dead too. Yeah.

Chris Prime: Well, that was a warning, because when Rhodes leaves, he doesn't need science anymore.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: They're just, at that point, just going to go feral, and God knows what they're going to

Zach Sheets: okay

Zach Sheets: That was a was like a flyby scene like earlier where like he's talking to Sarah and he's like, well, I'm good and Bill's good and Logan's good. rest of y'all are dead. like you can just throw kill kill out any of you guys anytime he wants because like you're all expendable.

Chris Prime: See, what a great prep talk, huh?

Zach Sheets: Yep.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, Flyboy is refusing to the helicopter. And then they they they put Sarah and Bill in like the zombie corral thing and they kind of just shoved them out into the cave.

Zach Sheets: So they have to fend for themselves against all the zombies that are out there.

Chris Prime: I mean, we're kind of like, this movie is a slow burn for a good portion.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Prime: Until basically the beginning of, though at the end of the second act. Where, I mean, right getting to the third act, where it's just like chaos, but leading up to it, it's a lot of talk of you know, what they're doing survival, the topic of religion and like human growth and restarting humanity.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, Flyboy has a big speech about how he thinks this is all like divine intervention or like divine retribution.

Chris Prime: For, you know, like a curse that's put on humanity for living recklessly. And then, you know, it's interesting to see that belief because he's, you know, why are they still here? That, like, left behind sense.

Chris Prime: i I forgot, like, evangelical Christians believe in that? Where it's like, this is the, like, reckoning. This is the rapture.

Zach Sheets: Yep.

Chris Prime: So the dead will walk from just sort of, like, you know, hell is so busy that the dead are walking. But yeah, that guy gets dropped out the window. It's not like at the end, like that none of the, none of the core cast brings us up again.

Chris Prime: If anything, Miguel is the one character that just sort of like becomes the the wild card again. Like the guy that wasn't doing well in the beginning, he doesn't do well in the end.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, because he like... take like... blow like sabotages the elevator, the big like lift elevator that takes you down into like the facility.

Zach Sheets: and then he goes up and lures like unlocks the gate with all like you know all these like hundreds of zombies just waiting around there.

Chris Prime: Oh, he unlocks it. They just push in.

Zach Sheets: Well, I think i think yeah he like like opens unlocks and opens up so they can come in like freely without bash the gate open.

Chris Prime: Oh.

Zach Sheets: And then then he runs back to the helic elevator and kind of lays there like, alright, eat me. then I'll let you all into the the the base

Chris Prime: Because does he know what's going on in the other rooms? Or is he just freaking out just to freak out?

Zach Sheets: Yeah, I don't think he knows that Rhodes is killing people and threatening to leave in the helicopter. I was just like, I'm done. I'm going to kill everyone because my mind is snapped now. mean...

Chris Prime: I thought cared about Sarah.

Zach Sheets: i mean maybe he did before he started losing it because he just like slaps the shit of her in that one scene and then he's just like she's trying to help him by giving him a sedative and he's sleeping and he's just like you bitch like he's just like yeah

Chris Prime: That's true. I mean, he's on edge.

Zach Sheets: yeah

Chris Prime: So then he finally snaps and then, yeah, he just makes it worse.

Zach Sheets: lets the Horde eat him, and then... But then that, like, lets all the zombies into the base, and it's, like, this... The the big, kind of like... dawn now Now it's, like, Dawn of the Dead, where it's just, like, hundreds of zombies just, like, roaming this, like... This building...

Chris Prime: And the movie does have a Dawn of the Dead feel by this point. It's sort of like the payoff of the slow burn tension and then the the drama between every, like, every, like, faction, I guess.

Chris Prime: And then it just culminates into just, like, wacky hijinks of all the military guys running and gunning as best as they could.

Zach Sheets: and

Zach Sheets: and and

Chris Prime: Wait, wait, wait. Then, then like what, like Sarah and Bill, they have like a different movie fight in their, their version.

Zach Sheets: okay

Chris Prime: It like becomes kind of like they're fighting, like a haunted house zombies.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, because they're in the dark cave. They have like a shovel, and they're just kind of running into the darkness. And then Flyboy... bunch of the guys like go and investigate the elevator, so Rhodes left like one guy.

Zach Sheets: then Flyboy takes them both out and steals Rhodes' double revolvers. And then Flyboy's running through like the mines of double revolvers, like like an action hero.

Chris Prime: Yeah, but okay. I don't know why he doesn't kill Rhodes. I think it's like he thinks like it's not worth it or that like he doesn't want be like Rhodes.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, something. i yeah like Maybe he'd get eaten by zombies? I don't know

Chris Prime: Well, he has like a moment of hesitation. He goes, a like he's got a pain look that I think he just goes, okay, well, not worth the bullet.

Zach Sheets: Even though you just saw him like gun a man down in cold blood?

Chris Prime: Mm-hmm.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, yeah he yeah yeah he just like he's running through the mines just blasting zombies. du Like, dual-willing pistols.

Chris Prime: Yeah, for a guy that was very, you know, pacifist, I guess, he can still kick it. He can still, like, get into action.

Zach Sheets: And they find like like a different way out of the like the mines. There's like a ladder. like An elevator is like broken, but they find like a ladder they can climb out and get to... like It's like a passageway that gets to the helicopter.

Zach Sheets: And yeah, and then everyone and everyone everyone else is getting is like horrifically eaten by zomb like zombies. which some Some of the top-tier Tom Saviti special effects...

Chris Prime: Yeah, the, just, like, the the ripping of the skin and then just the, like, the right amount of gore. Like, nothing, nothing is over the, I mean, it's all over the top, but...

Zach Sheets: Okay.

Chris Prime: It's appropriate. It's like, it's been a while since we've seen zombies biting and munching on people, so when this happens, it's like all the parts of the middle of the movie that didn't have this.

Chris Prime: It's also like, you're making these extras put globs of probably corn syrup, like, beef in their mouth, like...

Zach Sheets: like Well, I guess i mean we get to Rhodes, but like like that that scene is like apparently was like real intestines, real blood. like And apparently it was like it rotted in the refrigerator, so it was like horrible smelling.

Chris Prime: Oh, God.

Chris Prime: mean, thank God now you've got like more modern-day props. Back then, I know you're kind of keeping on a budget and just having animal organs was cheap.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, they used real pig intestines for all the gore seeds.

Chris Prime: i make That makes sense.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, I mean, there's there's some... great like like yeah people like It's like like someone's getting their head ripped off, and they're like it's like it's... You can barely tell when like it's like the actor's head and then the practical head. like The switch is like imperceptible, and then the actor's screaming at the stay entire time.

Zach Sheets: And it's...

Chris Prime: Yeah, that scene, I think the actor who's who's being his head ripped off was played by Greg Nicotero.

Zach Sheets: it's was Was that him? Yeah.

Chris Prime: I think that was him. It was the one who was like screaming and then like as his head's being ripped off, like you hear the Learnix being teared, so it's like high-pitched squeal.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, it's like and it's like, obviously there's like a switch to like a practical like like a mechanical head, but you can you can't tell when it's switched.

Chris Prime: I think, like, he probably stuck down, yeah.

Zach Sheets: Duck down or something. Yeah.

Chris Prime: And then the torso was probably, like, a puppet. And then just the arms were flailing at the top. And then the head was probably another puppet, like, a mechanical, like, servo, probably battery-powered.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: And they just, like, pulled it apart with, like, then you see the latex in the guts. Again, it it's... The visuals aren't realistic by today's standards, and it's not over-the-top gory.

Chris Prime: However, it's efficient. it It doesn't need the most realistic gut effect. You know, it doesn't look like a Saw movie where it's like, oh my god, it's so slow and painful. This is simple, but it seems so visceral.

Chris Prime: Again, Saw was moving when I was so young. No parental guidance there. But I understood what happens when someone's head gets ripped off. I was like, oh. wow But the thing is, the the the one thing it skips is that like no spinal cord. Just like head and then like your li your throat. that was it That's all that got pulled off.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. And I think was it i think was w Rickles that gets his, like like like, the top of his eye ripped like partner or like his eye ripped off. it like the the like The skin from like under his eye and then up to like the scalp gets ripped off.

Chris Prime: Ooh. Yeah.

Chris Prime: Yeah, like peeled like a fruit.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: So gruesome. But I don't know. Like that... that depiction is also very gross. And the fact that they do it on like, I think the actor's face, like the fact that it like that is hard, like to, to make it look like there's no distinction.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: There's no, uh, like, okay, that's obviously like a putty makeup.

Zach Sheets: makeup, yeah.

Chris Prime: Yeah. That worked really well. Like, i don't know how they did that one.

Chris Prime: Uh, Yeah, and I don't know, like I feel like some of these soldiers were just sort of like wild, rowdy guys, but it's not like they got they all deserve this, right?

Chris Prime: mean, Steel, yes.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, Steel was an asshole. Rickles kind of just seemed like he was like Steel's sidekick. like He was his little minion. Yeah.

Chris Prime: I mean, there was also other guys that died throughout this whole weak

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: and Just by accidents or whatever, and we never get to know them. They're just like other guys.

Zach Sheets: like's like There's like three other guys that just get like murdered off screen or like murdered like super quickly.

Chris Prime: But yeah, it shows that like even these like military training guys, they're like unprepared for the actual zombies that are at their doorsteps.

Zach Sheets: And I was in an... And Rhodes like shows his true colors by just like abandoning everyone and like fleeing for himself.

Chris Prime: Yeah, if he doesn't have the advantage right there, he' just, like, bails out.

Zach Sheets: on his golf cart.

Chris Prime: Which has enough speed to, like, hit a zombie and, like, make it spin.

Zach Sheets: Knock it, yeah, knock it off, flying off the side.

Zach Sheets: But then, yeah, but then we get the great, like, like, Bubb,

Zach Sheets: You Bub finds Dr. Logan and is like is like like, you know, feels some sort of like, you know sadness or like, because he was like his his teacher. And then he if he finds like the gun, he finds a gun. It's loaded this time.

Zach Sheets: then he's like, then he's like hunting down roads.

Zach Sheets: And actually it gets like, it's like shoots him up a couple of times. Like he actually like gets it gets his aim back. He remembers how to aim.

Chris Prime: I actually remember this was I thought at the end he actually nicks him but yeah like the fact that he actually is able to land shots and chase him around as was pretty cool.

Chris Prime: See I think like Logan was right you just gotta train the zombie to humanize him but They still want to kill? They just don't want to eat?

Zach Sheets: Well, but I mean, Bubba's still eating like you know flesh or whatever.

Chris Prime: Well, yeah. like He was getting reward.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Zach Sheets: And then probably one of the best deaths in zombie movie history, like Rhodes getting like torn apart by like hundreds of zombies. Yeah.

Chris Prime: And his last words are just choke on it.

Zach Sheets: Choke on it. Yeah. And also, like, the like apparently Bubb remembers sarcasm because he like does like the sarcastic salute to him. It's like, it's the same as he eats him.

Zach Sheets: But yeah it's yeah, just like a classic, like kids like, his bottom torso gets ripped off and then like they're like eating his intestines. and and then Which was, you know, parodied in Shaun the Dead.

Chris Prime: Yeah, I think some people who didn't watch a lot of zombie movies thought that was pre-original, and then it's like, okay, you gotta know that Shaun of the Dead is just sleep was basically the accumulation of all the zombie movies up until that point.

Zach Sheets: Every zombie movie. The

Chris Prime: I recognized that death. i was like, oh, that's that's cool that they played Homage. I saw Shaun of the Dead in theaters, and I was like pointing at the screen. i was like, yeah!

Zach Sheets: Leonardo DiCaprio style.

Chris Prime: They're like, oh, oh, oh!

Zach Sheets: I recognize that. I know that reference.

Zach Sheets: And then, yeah, and then we we but then we don't know what happened to Bob, but he I guess he's he's just wandering in the lab, or maybe he found his way out and he's just wandering around.

Chris Prime: Yeah, I like not knowing. Probably know he runs that facility now or he's still listening to more patriotic music.

Chris Prime: Maybe he's continuing Logan's experiment.

Chris Prime: Maybe he's, i don't know, reanimating the dead. Probably not.

Zach Sheets: Well, they had they had a... The Walking Dead had, like, a Bub character in, like, the the fourth season, apparently.

Chris Prime: I it's just a dude.

Zach Sheets: it was like it was like it wass like It was clearly supposed to be, like, it was, like, the same clothing and everything, so was supposed be like this, like, hey, you know, it's Bub.

Chris Prime: Did that character live?

Zach Sheets: i i't don't... I mean, I don't think he was, like, yeah as friendly as Bub. I think he was, like, just, like, a walker, but, like, it was like like clearly supposed to be a walker that looks like Bub.

Chris Prime: I

Zach Sheets: And then, uh, yeah, then, so like, Flyboy and Bill and Sarah end up on a tropical island, and they're you know, hanging out there.

Chris Prime: Well, I like that Sarah, there was like a whole, like, I guess.

Zach Sheets: her weird nightmares. there's like There's, like, three, like, nightmare jump scares, like, like like smash cuts.

Chris Prime: Yeah.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: But I think her nightmare actually happened. It's like what they did when they left. It just wasn't an easy struggle either.

Zach Sheets: That'd how bizarre would it be if like the entire movie was just like a nightmare Sarah had on the tropical islands? It's like, wow, that a crazy dream.

Chris Prime: Well, I mean, from this, I feel like the the most of the dreams are just things that actually are happening. you know like So she's still traumatized from the truth. So yeah, the movie is all a dream, but the dream is actually what real like really happened.

Zach Sheets: I mean, yeah. Except for like a wall full of zombie arms reaching out and trying to grab her.

Chris Prime: Yeah, not if you there's like some covers of the movie or like images that just show that, and it does not depict the movie. That looks like Evil Dead. like That is such an Evil Dead reference.

Zach Sheets: and that was what's her her other nightmares like i think it's is it like like miguel is like like cut open and like all his guts spill out or something yeah

Chris Prime: Yep, his guts fall out. Yeah.

Chris Prime: So, you know, like, some parts are cool, some parts are just... Her nightmare is also, like, either they're isolating or they are horror movies.

Chris Prime: We still don't know what she does besides science.

Zach Sheets: she's trying to find a cure and apparently she never did because there's however many more movies in the series

Chris Prime: Well, they... It's one of those things where they chose to just run away and just live on their own. Like, don't don't try to help.

Zach Sheets: yeah

Chris Prime: Don't try to make it worse. Just survive without trying to include, I guess, like, more people. Like, this is another classic Romero where the people are the problem.

Chris Prime: And so leaving zombies alone was the better solution.

Chris Prime: And they just can't live with the fact that they're zombies. Like, everyone's trying to do something about the zombies. But they also don't mobilize well. I feel like the facility was pretty secure if they just, I don't know, stopped doing weird experiments.

Chris Prime: And also, was it was Dr. Logan fact-checked? It was just like, I'm a doctor. it's like, alright, he's got the coat, so just let him do science.

Zach Sheets: it's yeah Yeah, he's got a lab coat. He's

Zach Sheets: just some weird guy who's like, I want to cover up some bodies. Yeah.

Chris Prime: He said he wants to do it. Let him do it.

Zach Sheets: what What happens if poke this brain here? Ooh.

Chris Prime: Yeah, he didn't like that.

Zach Sheets: If I take this this nerve and attach this nerve, basically is this like it's like, he's just like cutting things open and just messing around stuff. It's like taking all the organs out and like, oh, he's still he's still moving. That's cool. It's like, oh, look, this guy's only a brain. He's still moving. That's cool.

Chris Prime: I mean, Logan's like whole big thing was, what if I treated the zombie like a son? What if I like nurtured it? Because the thing that I guess like his dad didn't do for him... Because he does mention that he has like father issues. he's Like, oh, my father was a doctor. He never said I'd be a great like doctor or scientist like him, but here I am.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, doesn't Sarah also find like a weird tape of like him like and guess it' sort of like like we' living some sort of like childhood trauma of like his mother or something?

Chris Prime: Yeah. And then I think it's supposed to be that that like during these like experiments, he just has like freak outs.

Chris Prime: So he's taking out his like aggression or whatever on the the dead.

Chris Prime: you know, that's normal.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, so then it was like, i mean, see, it was how many, it was 20 years until the next entry in the franchise, Land of the Dead.

Chris Prime: I get that they are trying to show the progression of the world. I do like Land the Dead now. i don't think I was a big fan of it when I first saw it, but I like that in the story of humanity kind of doing the same thing again, where it's like, oh you always get the same kind of people rising to power, and then they're doing crazy, like...

Chris Prime: things that keep in power and somehow make money. Like, because that is a lot.

Zach Sheets: in And that movie we definitely continued like the smart zombie evolution because you have Big Daddy who's like able to like do tactics and like have like have his like zombies like use weapons and stuff.

Chris Prime: They don't quite explain how does that but again, another downside about the smart zombies are is that like, The zombie just sort of like realizes they can be smart. There's no like it takes a drug or over the years of survival, the zombies evolved.

Chris Prime: You know, they're just like one day that zombie realized it could chop.

Zach Sheets: and then And then that was kind of like the end, that was kind of like the the last one in like the timeline, because then like Diary and Survivor were like prequels to everything.

Chris Prime: I gotta revisit those to see if I still like them. Like, I was an okay fan of them. Watched them on early Netflix streaming. when Or like, even, think, OG Netflix, when you could just rent them.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, hmm.

Chris Prime: I'm more in the like, okay, if you want classic Romero, I don't want modern stuff. But in the modern era, they're not terrible for zombie things, you know? it could be a lot worse.

Chris Prime: And there are a lot more war of zombie movies out there.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Zach Sheets: And i think like Twilight the Dead is the upcoming kind of like finale of the entire franchise. It's like like George Romero got a treatment before he died and they're kind of like finishing it up and going to be like the big kind of like final chapter.

Chris Prime: said they're about Final Destination, but who knows?

Zach Sheets: Yeah, Kate Beckinsale's going to star in it.

Chris Prime: It's just Underworld again.

Zach Sheets: Well, it was going to be Milo Jovovich, which is like a weird...

Zach Sheets: And

Chris Prime: Yeah, they figure that you want to separate that.

Zach Sheets: then Day the Dead was like its own mini-franchise. There a remake, there was

Zach Sheets: unofficial sequel. There's a TV show.

Chris Prime: I saw the TV show is still bizarre that they they have like one it was a thing it wasn't just like some net like you don't know online web exclusive you know it's like this premiered

Zach Sheets: Yeah, it was a sci-fi show. it it was on like 2021 apparently and no one no one mentioned it or watched it.

Chris Prime: It was still the pandemic, but crazy.

Zach Sheets: And it was like Steve Kostansky who did like Psycho Goreman and the new Deathstalker movie. Like apparently was like the director on that show. Yeah.

Chris Prime: Does he know he was on it? Like,

Zach Sheets: I did what?

Chris Prime: I gotta stop drinking. I accidentally directed a TV show.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, Day the Dead Bloodline, which is like one

Zach Sheets: remakes. There's Day of the Dead 2008 and there's Day the Dead Bloodline. guess Rames Rhodes in the 2008 movie. Mm-hmm.

Zach Sheets: i guess i guess vig rams is is the is rhoads and the yeah the two and eight movie

Chris Prime: Yeah, if i don't think he gets his comeuppance. I think he's just there.

Chris Prime: Because it's not the same Rhodes. It's just a guy named Rhodes. I think I did see that one.

Zach Sheets: It's interesting too, like, Rick and Rames is in like two George Romero remakes.

Chris Prime: He'll act. I mean, he was in Arby's commercials, so...

Zach Sheets: He's the voice of Arby's, yeah.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, I think the 2008 movie, I think it's like extremely, extremely loose remake.

Chris Prime: I don't know. feel like remake has to say remake and it's just sort of like, okay, we wanted the title. Just say that. don't know. Just call another movie.

Zach Sheets: like it's like it's it's like It's a bunch of teens and they and like stumble into like this like research facility.

Chris Prime: Like Lab.

Zach Sheets: This

Chris Prime: Yeah, that's why I kind of remembered. And then like Vin Rain shows up and he's like, hey, this is under like our jurisdiction.

Zach Sheets: is a government project. Get out of here.

Chris Prime: We have the zombies.

Zach Sheets: ye This is impossible mission. I've got to hack these zombies.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, Day of the Dead, it's still one of one of the best zombie movies. i mean in Special effects-wise, some of Tom Savini's best work.

Chris Prime: Yeah, it's a very like simple zombie premise. Anytime they kind of venture into like one territory, it brings it back to just basic human survival or primal things about like humanity that like even during a crisis... it it could You know what I mean? like this This movie could have been during an alien invasion. This movie could have been about time travel.

Chris Prime: This movie could have been about... mutant vegetables. like it It's very like universal of what like people would do to survive and then that kind of chaos.

Zach Sheets: and

Chris Prime: But that doesn't help that you have mad scientist like like in your midst.

Zach Sheets: You have mad scientist and a crazy like psychotic like army colonel or army captain who's supposed to kill everybody. So it's like, oh, what what side do you you want to be on?

Chris Prime: Decide with all the guns or you want to be right. You want to do science.

Zach Sheets: you want like If you get killed, you might end up as like Dr. Logan's experiment. So that's that's fun.

Chris Prime: I mean, yeah, i feel like Logan just sort of like, oh, you're all fodder to him. And then as soon as they kind of like more and more unravel like who he is, it's like, oh, no, he's crazy.

Zach Sheets: He just hides it slightly more better than like Rose. Rose is just like outwardly psychotic.

Chris Prime: Yeah, it's a good character study of like these people of power who like underneath it all are just, like I don't know, mad driven mad.

Chris Prime: But Rose's true colors come out when basically he's got the pressure and he doesn't have his dual pistols.

Zach Sheets: yeah There's like his Samson hair. like He loses his dual revolvers. He has nothing.

Chris Prime: Yeah. But least Logan, he kind of stood by his weird so mad science principle. You know, like, it's like, hey, I don't know.

Zach Sheets: nice

Chris Prime: Hey, guys, come on. Don't get mad at me. Don't look at my freezer. We checking each other's freezers now?

Zach Sheets: Look at Bub. Bub's success.

Chris Prime: That's one zombie out of how many?

Zach Sheets: One down, millions to go.

Zach Sheets: We just gotta grab one zombie time and just treat them super nice and then eventually they'll all be friendly like Bob.

Chris Prime: We will tame Florida one zomb one Floridian zombie at a time.

Zach Sheets: Yep.

Zach Sheets: We can reopen Disney World have them work there.

Zach Sheets: But yes, I think that'll do it for this week's episode. you know Check out that the new 4K if you want crystal clear, Day the Dead, or watch it on almost every streaming platform.

Zach Sheets: And come back next week, we're talking about the na the original Supergirl movie, because obviously we're getting Supergirl in theaters, the new DC Universe entry.

Zach Sheets: But we're going jump back and talk about the Helen Slater version.

Zach Sheets: And I had to say we got all the other stuff there. We got news, reviews, trailers. I got a review of Disclosure Day, the new Steven Spielberg movie. You can check that out. And a bunch of big trailers. We got a new Spider-Man Brand New Day trailer that's up a site. So check all that stuff out.

Zach Sheets: And yeah, so for Chris, I'm Zach. And we will see you next week.

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