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The Purge: Anarchy (2014)

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This week on the Everything Actioncast, Zach and Chris have the urge to Purge and discuss 2014's The Purge: Anarchy as the romantic comedy version of the concept, One Night Only, hits theaters. The second film in the franchise, The Purge: Anarchy takes place during the 2023 Purge as Leo Barnes (Frank Grillo) gets ready to hunt down the man who killed his son but gets sidetracked rescuing several characters caught on the streets during the chaos; estranged couple Liz (Kiele Sanchez) and Shane (Zach Gilford) and single mom Eva (Carmen Ejogo) and her daughter Cali (Zoë Soul).  The group makes their way through downtown Los Angeles, dodging psychotic Purgers and government kill squads.  Zach and Chris discuss how this movie realized the full potential of the concept set up in 2013's The Purge, how Leo is basically The Punisher, why anyone would choose a melee weapon for The Purge, the surprisingly solid USA TV series, and more. You can rent The Purge: Anarchy on Amazon, Apple TV, YouTube, and Fandango at Home.  Next week, we're celebrating 40 gooey years of David Cronenberg's The Fly. We want to hear your comments and feedback.  Send them all to contact@everythingaction.com.  Also, let us know your movie suggestions for us to discuss. Please subscribe, rate, and review us on Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/everything-actioncast/id368044198?ls=1&mt=2)], Amazon Music, [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9f9a5ed7-32c4-4a81-8b70-8df6c7a59c70/Everything-Actioncast] Spotify [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9f9a5ed7-32c4-4a81-8b70-8df6c7a59c70/Everything-Actioncast], or wherever you get podcasts.  You can also find the podcast on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@everythingaction4636]. Check us out on Twitter (@evaction [https://www.twitter.com/evaction]), Facebook (www.facebook.com/everything.action [https://www.facebook.com/everything.action]), Threads [https://www.threads.com/@everything.action], Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/everythingaction.bsky.social], and Instagram (@everything.action [https://www.instagram.com/everything.action/]).

Transcript

Zach Sheets: Hello and welcome to the Everything Extra Cast podcast week of August 3rd, 2026. I'm your host, Zach.

Chris Prime: I'm your co-host, Chris.

Zach Sheets: And this week we have The Urge to Purge. We're talking about The Purge Anarchy because we have in theaters a movie called One Night Only, which is basically The Purge, but it's like romantic comedy.

Zach Sheets: It's like, it's almost like, exact it's like you have 12 hours, but like instead of like murdering people, everyone just has like premarital sex.

Chris Prime: Yeah, it's sort of like a play on like violence. Now it's like love. But I think in that movie, it's like, do you just have to anyone? So it's like everyone just sort of like accepts it? Or it's sort of like, oh, it's it's just...

Zach Sheets: I don't know if there's like a you know a new founding fathers political group that took over America, like a really puritanical government, but

Chris Prime: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Prime: Yeah, that that's where, like, the question is how enforce is it? mean, like, The Purge, where it's, like, complete, like, nothing, you know, as in the title of this movie, where in another form, it's, like, you need some sort of, like, rule, even though it's, like, rule-less, like, you know, law-less, it's, like, no, no, but you need, like, one just to kind of, like, enforce this.

Zach Sheets: yeah.

Zach Sheets: I think I read on the Wikipedia page for one and only that everyone has to get like his implants and it like, like, like, like, tracks your dopamine levels. So like, like, they're like, Oh, your dopamine is rising. You're having sex. You get arrested.

Chris Prime: Gotcha. See, see like that, even in this movie, in in any order of like system, you still need, you still have like interference to like manipulate. So I found it weird where it's like, oh, it's like they tried that with like hair, the musical.

Chris Prime: It's like where it's like love and freedom. And it's like, well, who's paying for this? And they're just like, oh, oh, well, that's the end of the song. Like they tried that concept. They didn't do well.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, the purge anarchy, yeah the second second movie in the franchise, and I think de it's it's it kind of fulfilled the promise of the first movie that didn't really live up to the premise.

Zach Sheets: Because the first movie you know sets up this idea of there's a purge, there's anarchy in the streets, everyone's just like murdering each other, but then you're stuck in Ethan Hawke's house for the entire movie.

Zach Sheets: You don't really see what's going on outside except for a little glimpses maybe on the news or something. And then Anarchy was like...

Chris Prime: yeah Maybe.

Zach Sheets: The Anarchy, you're like you're on the streets, you're seeing like all the insanity that's happening, you're seeing... like you know buses, flaming buses driving by and motorcycle gangs, whatever else is happening. So, and then that's that's kind of like, this is like where the franchise kind like found like its like main, like style.

Chris Prime: The formula.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. in Formula.

Chris Prime: Because.

Zach Sheets: turned, it turned turned to more to like an action, like an it's like like action horror. It's not like the first one was kind of like a home invasion more horror, but this is like, now it's an action movie basically. Yeah.

Chris Prime: Well, the first movie is a thriller.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: Horror thriller just because there's not enough people to get killed or like kind of escalate the tension. This one, they they figured out, okay, we have a whole city of people, so you can just encounter...

Chris Prime: what would be like survivors and then, readers or even like anarchists sort of, but it seems very like these people talked, you know, like they had a plan.

Chris Prime: and that's like the more crazy part is that it, it kind of, kind of feels like the warriors where there are people that during this time, they definitely like organize something. it's like all right, well I'll get the doom buggy. You go get the mask. Like,

Zach Sheets: ye

Chris Prime: Someone get the guns. Like, there's a little bit of organization. Of course.

Zach Sheets: stiffff is' like There's like groups of friends or groups of like people who are like, we're going gang up, we're going to be like the... This is like theme.

Chris Prime: Yeah, yeah.

Zach Sheets: We're the burners. We're like...

Chris Prime: Yeah, by the third movie, it's like, it's weight you're like a ja you're adjusted to this, where it's like, purge happening, so this person is just pissed, and let's see what their wacky kill outfit is. This time around...

Chris Prime: because it's like they're still figuring that formula, you you definitely have the two, like, one, you know, groups of like, one group is way organized, the other group is just passionate. but Or like, they just spur of the moment, decide it, let me just get this gun and just see how like crazy I can ramble for 12 hours straight.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: or Or like, this is how I'll solve my issue and it would be awkward for now, but then, you know, later on, we'll see.

Chris Prime: Like, that would be on my mind in that world. Like, you would i you be paranoid all year long. It doesn't regard the purge. But in the movie, it it it it it shows it as if it's like they worry about it like an hour before the purge starts.

Chris Prime: You know, it's like, oh, hey, you're not going to try to kill me, right It's like, no.

Zach Sheets: yeah

Chris Prime: It's like, all right, cool

Zach Sheets: Well, that was kind of like the the first movie. That was whole thing where it's like the neighbors are like, they show up.

Chris Prime: cool. But that was a surprise at the end.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. Where it's like, oh, we actually hate you. We're going to take this opportunity to kill Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: We're jealous.

Zach Sheets: yeah

Chris Prime: We're actually like, you know, keeping up with the Joneses and we hate it. And it's like, oh, OK, so.

Zach Sheets: oh

Chris Prime: You wait it until year four of the purge, I think, by that movie.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, because the first the first Purge was... because Because this movie takes place in the the far-off future of 2023. But yeah, is the first Purge. So yeah, we're we're like almost 10 years into the Purge.

Chris Prime: Yeah, I mean, that's why I'm like, in in in the sense of paranoia, now that it's been like a running system, at this point, you know, 10 Super Bowls have passed by.

Chris Prime: So there has to be a commercial that says, hey, if you're if you aren't a good person by, i don't know, by like a certain cutoff month, like get ready to fight this person. They're going to come after you.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. i mean I mean, that's Frank Grillo's whole thing, obviously. is like he He spent basically a year planning to kill this one guy.

Chris Prime: And that one guy didn't plan anything. He just, so he just, all he had was like a steel door.

Zach Sheets: No!

Chris Prime: Do you have have a gun? to that Oh, he he does. but But, but I mean, like, it's not anywhere near him in case something happens.

Zach Sheets: He has an easily disabled, like, back, like, armored door, basically.

Chris Prime: Yeah. And like a a nice part of the city or outside the city where the the most of the killing happens downtown.

Zach Sheets: on

Chris Prime: And I like that this movie starts there. It's like it shows you all the different, you know, main cast. But the actual working class of this, I think it's L.A.

Zach Sheets: is LA, yeah.

Chris Prime: don't know if they call it L.A. or if it's like it is L.A.

Chris Prime: But yeah, it's just downtown in l LA. And even the people who live there are like, oh no, like the people here suck. They're gonna purge like a lot here.

Zach Sheets: I

Zach Sheets: i think like i think the news is like this might be this is going to the most attended purge in the history of the purge

Chris Prime: Like, that's not a good thing. you just know it's gonna get crazier and crazier until basically like naep It's going to become block wars. You know, it's going to turn into Judge Dredd.

Zach Sheets: that's what, I mean, the Forever Purge, like the last movie the franchise, is like, there's just like, there just becomes a group of like, or we're never we're never stopping purging. we're so We're purging all the time now. You can't stop us.

Zach Sheets: We're just going to kill whoever we want.

Chris Prime: without any like rules or or sort of like timeline you you're just not gonna have a business no one's gonna trust anyone how do how do you like and don't know it's like you can't really even like viking tribes they like attacked neighboring areas or they went abroad and read it and brought back stuff so they're going on like the rule of everyone fend for themselves.

Chris Prime: Yeah. You're just going to have tribes, which I think is that the forever purge. Like it's just a whole bunch of tribal people.

Zach Sheets: I mean, there's like there's like it's like a big group it's like a group. It's like kind of like a it's like militia or something. They basically they like like the purge preservation group or something. like I forget that what they call themselves. But like, theyre they but it's like this is a group that like forms and they're like, we're we decide we're never going to stop purging. Like this where this is like our our lifestyle now. We're just going purge everybody. We're going to purge we think is not American.

Chris Prime: Gotcha. I mean, they kind of hinted to that here, and then I think Election Day, they get way escalated. But it's nice that, like, there is an arc to how they ruled.

Chris Prime: And seeing, like, again, from the leaps and bounds of the first movie to this movie, it's like, you this movie should have been the first movie.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, probably.

Chris Prime: But, Or even, like, if this was straight-to-DVD spinoff, I feel like this would have been, like, amazing. Because Because the thing about the Purge movies is you think they cost a lot of money. like They do, but for the production, it's, like, $10,000, $12,000 just to, like, rent city blocks and a few game actors and then just throw a bunch of garbage on the street.

Zach Sheets: Well, the first Purge cost like $3 million, and this movie got tripled the budget. It got like, think, $9 to $11 million what it says on Wikipedia. $111 So,

Chris Prime: Yeah, and then then they brought, they ranked in like 80 million.

Zach Sheets: huge success. so

Chris Prime: God damn.

Zach Sheets: huge huge success

Chris Prime: Honestly, this is what like, Jason Blum, as much as people kind of crap him sometimes, he knows how to like, get the most out of a budget. He's no Roger Corbin, but Steve Blum is like, oh, Jason Blum is a Not bad with it.

Chris Prime: Like he. he kind of figures out like, yeah, that's scary. An idea. Let's like just focus in on that. Sometimes.

Zach Sheets: but i mean I mean, I think that's's that's like mean their main thing. like Blumhouse's main thing is like, all right, you get like we're not going to give you like a huge budget. We're also not going to nitpick you and like give you a ton notes. you can just do whatever you want, basically. And then, you know because it's a low budget, like if it makes a ton of money, then it's a huge profit for us.

Chris Prime: So that brings me to the other production company, Platinum Dunes, that's in this.

Zach Sheets: Michael Bay.

Chris Prime: Yeah, which is kind of funny because don't think Michael Bay would make a movie like this, but I think they were they're the ones that probably add notes. It's like more blood or more crazy yeah more action.

Zach Sheets: Make it more action.

Chris Prime: you need you need a guy yeah you need a guy that's in the back of like a freezer truck.

Zach Sheets: yeah You need a minigun.

Chris Prime: that has a gaunt, like a Gatling gun that's mounted to the floor, just because it's supposed to belong on like a helicopter or possibly like a tomahawk.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. It's called Big Daddy.

Chris Prime: See, I feel like that's a Michael Bay note. And we don't any...

Zach Sheets: Although, although but if it was like if it's a full month Michael Bay movie, that truck would be like a Budweiser truck. It'd be sponsored, yeah.

Chris Prime: Oh, Ugh.

Chris Prime: Do we even get like, okay, so I like that this world that they they make is kind of like zany and you get way more into the like the problems of the people, not so much the you know, the the finite details of who the founding fathers fathers are who the the rich society, like, they're just, like, nameless people.

Zach Sheets: yeah

Chris Prime: And it, like, moves fast because of that.

Zach Sheets: well I mean they they introduce all the main characters and then they kind of like they all eventually kind of like come together cause they all get trapped outside during the purge. Or in Frank Grohl's case, he wants to be out there and during the purge.

Chris Prime: Yeah, but

Zach Sheets: Because he's been he's been like gearing up for all year. He's made himself like an armored car. he's got like you know He's stacked up on guns. like like Frank Grohl is basically the Punisher.

Chris Prime: Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Zach Sheets: he just painted a skull on his chest, he would be the Punisher.

Chris Prime: I mean, a lot of people said that it's like, oh, if they ever did a punish, Frank Gilder would be in the running, but then he showed up as crossbones.

Zach Sheets: hu

Chris Prime: So we what what could have been...

Zach Sheets: but he But he's like, he's the main character. Like he's, and he's like carrying this but the movie basically. And then we got like,

Zach Sheets: Eva and Kelly, who it's like a single mom who's like a waitress and her daughter. And they're like, they're going to barricade themselves in their and their apartment for the purge. But then their like, or their horrible like landlord shows is like, hey, I've been i'm watching you like all year. i found I'm not gonna take my chance to do whatever I want to you.

Chris Prime: I don't even think they are like the landlord. That's just like the super who's hired just to maintenance the building.

Zach Sheets: okay, yeah.

Chris Prime: But either way, terrible choice because he had all the keys of the house, like the apartment, and yeah, he he did the stereotypical thing where it's like, okay, you, the lady I'm creepy with during the day,

Zach Sheets: hu

Chris Prime: then at night I'm just gonna make it worse.

Zach Sheets: All crimes legal now.

Chris Prime: I mean, that that's a... off the bat, you don't root for him at all. You know, there's no like, oh, maybe he's nice. It's like, nope. Nope, he came in hit drunken with a gun.

Zach Sheets: Yep.

Zach Sheets: And then there's a Shane and Liz, who are a married couple, although they're going to be separated, or they want to get separated.

Chris Prime: you know yeah Fun fact, they were those two actors were married during this time.

Zach Sheets: yes Yep. Yeah, Callie Sanchez and Zach Guilford. Callie Sanchez, coming i think, close to coming off of like being like the worst character in television history, or one of them. like Nikki on Lost.

Zach Sheets: Like, who was so terrible, they just basically like buried her alive and never talked about her again.

Chris Prime: Like, they just off-screen killed her, or they just had a scene of her getting buried in a cave, and they went, alright.

Zach Sheets: it was like, season at three, they introduced like these characters, Nikki and Apollo, and like, hey, they've been here the whole time. you you guys know them, right? It's like, no, we hate them. So then it's like, okay. They're buried alive and you'll never see them again.

Chris Prime: Whoa.

Chris Prime: i don't know, they ever do a Lost Reunion movie or something, just like, look who we found.

Zach Sheets: But just like one of the most infamous, like the the audience is like absolutely rejecting characters and like despising them.

Chris Prime: They just had no time to build them or they just came off the bat like terrible.

Zach Sheets: They just dump them in as like, hey, here's new characters. They've been here the whole time. Because it's like, it was two seasons of building up by all the other characters and it's like, now here's these two new characters. like You gotta love them now.

Chris Prime: People were just like, no, no.

Zach Sheets: no yeah

Zach Sheets: yeah But yeah, they're like, there's like the dumbest characters in this movie. they're They're aimlessly driving around Los Angeles on like Purge night. like Like an hour before the Purge starts.

Zach Sheets: And we like we don't really have any idea where they're going, but they're still going on the streets when the Purge starts because they're like probably nowhere close to where they're driving to. and then they're also like driving together and they're like they're going get divorced. So this is like this, like, awkward, like, tense, terrible road trip that they're taking, and then it's like, oh, no, we have a flat tire. We're caught in the middle the purge now

Chris Prime: I thought it was like their their brakes or something got cut.

Zach Sheets: of the purge Oh! Like, yeah, the biker gang purge guys, like, cut their, like, gas line or something. Yeah, and then they were, like, trapped. They, like, are trapped outside now.

Zach Sheets: Because that group decided they wanted, like, capture them. they were, like, going to be, like, targeted to be, like, captured.

Zach Sheets: could you Could you find out that, like, like this this group that's, like, like harassing them is kidnapping people and, like, bringing them to, like, this, like rich like, rich person auction where they, basic like play like, bid on who gets to, like, go into, like, an arena and kill them?

Chris Prime: Yeah, but that that's like the weird third act of this movie that is already like a stuffed movie.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Prime: Then they're like, what if there was like another movie happening during this movie?

Chris Prime: Because during this whole time, you just kind of know, you're more into the vibe of them running around the streets.

Zach Sheets: Oh, yeah.

Chris Prime: It's so many interesting like like events unfolding all these the world building of just like this person owns this territory. This person is just like hunting. This is their hunting ground or this is like this person is solving their problem with violence right now.

Zach Sheets: there's like There's, like, a woman on top of a roof just, like, yelling insanity and, like, shooting people who comes near her and, like, a guy on a roof with a sniper rifle just shooting anybody that comes near him and Yeah, like a but like a bus gets set on fire and it's driving through the city and then you have like...

Chris Prime: I don't like a tunnel raiders who chase anyone that enters their tunnels.

Zach Sheets: Yeah,

Chris Prime: Like this is all by choice. They could not just do this also.

Zach Sheets: yeah well, I mean, it's it's either either you go out and purge or you bunker down and try to like survive the purge. That's like basically your two choices for purge night.

Chris Prime: Okay, so let's get into the the like government part, because that's the like additional twist where... I forgot who like it' like kind of does the exposition dump where it's like, oh, we have to like make people keep purging. Was that the end of the movie?

Zach Sheets: That was, I think Big Daddy, who is like, he's got like a, one of these guys that like, they, it seems like they work for the New Founding Fathers.

Zach Sheets: And it' so they're like a mercenary group that's going in and like killing people to make it seem like the purge is going better than it is. Because I think he says the end, like, yeah, people aren't like killing each other as much as as they were before. So we got to like up the up the numbers.

Zach Sheets: Which they reveal in the the first Purge movie, like the but the first movie called The First Purge, not The Purge. That's like basically how The Purge started, is that it was an experiment in Staten Island. to like see They wanted to see if people were killing each other, and then they weren't.

Zach Sheets: So the that New Honey Fire sent in like like kill squads to go in start murdering people. make it Like, hey, look, they're killing each other. It's working.

Zach Sheets: So guess I guess like almost 10 years later, they're still doing that. They're sending in their kill squads to go like kill people.

Chris Prime: Yeah, I guess to like kind of stir up problem more than, I don't know, to just eliminate decedence, like any political enemies.

Zach Sheets: Well, it's also, I mean, the the big thing about the purge, like, the secret, like, reason for the purge is also to, like, kill poor people and kill homeless people to like, you know, save money.

Chris Prime: Cleanse.

Zach Sheets: Like, it's like, we don't have to, we have to like, provide any, like, you know, care for, like, these poor people or, like, they're not, like, we're getting rid of all these, like, people we deem unworthy.

Chris Prime: Yeah, was it the third movie that really goes into it? Or is it the first movie?

Zach Sheets: oh yeah. Yeah.

Zach Sheets: This one starts with the social commentary stuff. And then the election year is full on. Any sort of hot-butted issue that was happening in 2016 was just in the Purge They're constantly saying the 99% or the 1% election year.

Zach Sheets: like they like they like they're constantly saying like the ninety nine percent or the one percent to election year

Chris Prime: That does make sense.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, but that's like that's like the you know the the actual goal of like the New Finding Father. that's why That's why like, oh, crime's down and we're like we balance the budget or like we have like this like like, unemployment's down because we murdered millions of people.

Zach Sheets: But not the rich people that is our group. Like, we're we're good.

Chris Prime: You know, the rich people in this universe also purge, but in such a like high fashion, where it's almost that like high society of dumb things.

Zach Sheets: Yes.

Chris Prime: Where, I think, like in the so first movie, it's like Ethan Hunt...

Zach Sheets: He's a hawk.

Chris Prime: Ethan Hawke's character, he he got rich off of just building like home defenses for purging.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: it doesn't work because someone breaks in. not

Zach Sheets: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Prime: i not sure why the poor people don't rebel.

Zach Sheets: Well, I mean, that's what it starts. We we find out there's like a resistance group in this movie led by Michael K. Williams.

Chris Prime: like Last minute, just sort of, hey, I forgot I'm in this movie?

Zach Sheets: I mean, he's he's he's doing like YouTube videos that like Kelly is watching early in the movie. And she's like kind of like a like a like kind of like say repeating his like talking points to everybody.

Chris Prime: True. It's like his videos could be fine if they weren't like an art project because it's just like the like I don't know anarchist like font and and just like filters that they have on his videos and it's like do you want a clear message or do you want to like put this like a dance beat behind this video?

Zach Sheets: yeah like I want to get this message out, also but I'm also an artist who wants to have a style to it.

Chris Prime: Yeah too much style where it's like his videos pop up like a Saul video where it's like you know, tonight I put a key in someone's head, go find the key. It's like, okay.

Zach Sheets: Well, somehow the Resistance can also, like, hack, like, the billboards, like, the digital billboards that are, like, showing the the clock like the countdown clock. Because, like, he, like, appears in like, the, like, the purge, like, billboards, like, hey, join us. We're taking the fight to the the rich. We're, like, we're join us, fight them.

Chris Prime: I feel like you should do that before the purge, not during the purge. Like, was that a year long marketing campaign he's been doing? And just some people are completely ignoring that.

Chris Prime: Like every now and then there's like a video of him showing up It's like, hey, I know it's Valentine's Day, but ready for the purge.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, i don't know I don't know how big their react group actually is, because like when they burst in, it's like, doesn't seem that big. I mean, they have they they have more big guys than like the rich people, but it's like not enough to like be like an army to like stop whatever's happening.

Chris Prime: Like 10 guys.

Chris Prime: Yeah, that that was my question when I first saw this movie, was what happened to them? Because by the third movie, they're just not there.

Zach Sheets: Well, there is there is a group in... in what like Because the third movie is in Washington, D.C. So there's another, like I guess, another chapter of like the resistance group in D.C. And then Edwin Hodge, who plays... He was the guy in the first movie that was like the homeless guy they they helped. They dragged into their house.

Zach Sheets: then he's in the resistance group in this movie.

Chris Prime: Yeah, it's like a... it's It's a nod to it if you have to remember the first movie.

Zach Sheets: And then... And then in the third movie, he's like the leader of like the Washington group.

Chris Prime: Yeah, he's got character growth.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: I kind of forgot that. like I remember why he showed up and it's way more prominent for a background guy. He's like, yeah, I'm here with an AK in the scene.

Chris Prime: I'm like, he's from something. I don't look it up because I haven't seen the first movie in a long time.

Zach Sheets: Yeah,

Zach Sheets: I feel like the first one is probably the weakest one of the first, like, just seeing where series goes. Yeah. Just because the other ones like are are what you actually want from like but the premise of like just like chaos on the streets and kind of like being in it.

Chris Prime: the premise yeah

Chris Prime: hu i i agree uh the first purge was like it was needed to establish just the brand but in terms of story pacing anarchy is the one that really gets the the formula going because i think right like before the first purge was the strangers and And there's probably another like home invasion movie that was similar.

Zach Sheets: There's like there's like funny games. there's like there's like There's quite a few. Yeah. They're like...

Chris Prime: it's like you But the thing is, you need mass people who are there to kill recklessly. like They don't really have an agenda. They're just doing it because they could.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: So that's why in this movie, I like the the that attitude for other parts. When it comes down to the government... agents or the the like secret society like that's when that's like okay now you're going into like a like a a more sinister corporate like level which I don't mind but like I just show me more Frank Grillo doing things he he basically he does a lot of killing in the beginning and then he doesn't do anything for a while

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: I kind of forgot that, too. it's It's like he has a really good character introduction to the other people where he's like, all right, he saves them. He shoots everyone.

Zach Sheets: Yep.

Chris Prime: Then sort of just stops. He doesn't even save himself during that confrontation in the tunnels. Like it's up to the the the worst couple with car issues.

Zach Sheets: the couple, yeah, somehow are like, they're just like, they're like, we're not gonna, we're not gonna kill anybody, we're like, we're we're just like yuppies who don't know anything, and they're like, but they like, are just like blasting away, and they can they they blow up like the dude buggy guys.

Chris Prime: Yeah, like all this regression that they, at least the the wife, she or the ex-wife, she she's the one that I think it does the better shooting.

Chris Prime: But what do you think about the cast? different groups, the mother-daughter, the married, the strain married couple, Frank Grillo. like It's a good dynamic.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. I mean,

Zach Sheets: Liz and Shane are terrible characters, and I hate them. but But yeah I think you're supposed to like kind of like hate them because they're they're they're dumb and stupid.

Chris Prime: yeah

Zach Sheets: they need constant help

Chris Prime: Almost this whole movie, they constantly need Frank Earl's help. They're just like, you can't leave us. Don't leave us. You're a bad person if you leave us. like They try to shame him.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, he's got a, like, Frank, Leo has, like, a super high talent. Like, he kind of says, like, he's to leave them behind, but he has, like, a, but then he's, like, he doesn't. Like, he's, like, just, like, he's, like, constantly waiting for them or, like, telling them to go ahead and, like, it's, like, all right, I got somewhere to be, but I'll still, I'll still use you guys and help you guys still.

Chris Prime: Yeah, he could have solved his problem early.

Zach Sheets: like

Chris Prime: Like, he could have been done and in an hour. Like, if he just never stopped, he probably could have accomplished his goal early. And then just gone home.

Zach Sheets: what What's like, that's just like his thing is like, you know, he sees like Ethan and Kelly being like dragged out into the streets by the the kill squad. He's kind of like, he's like, keep driving, keep driving. And then he's just like, well, can't keep driving. gotta help.

Zach Sheets: I still have a conscience even though I'm i'm on this like murder mission.

Chris Prime: Well, he also is an ex-cop, so there's something about him that is just like, alright, he likes the order, but he has no problem killing to kind of get, like, to save people.

Chris Prime: Because it doesn't seem like he has any guilt. He's just sort of like up until the end, you know, but it's it the concept is that this has been his life's mission. Just like building up his car, building up a collection of guns, like clipping new newspaper clippings about the man who this target and then ignoring his ex-wife.

Chris Prime: I think that's his ex-wife.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, she comes like, don hey don't don't don't do this. He's like, go back to your new husband, your kids. Let me do this.

Chris Prime: Wait, sure he has new kids?

Zach Sheets: i i Yeah, I think she like has a whole new family now. like She like moved on.

Chris Prime: Wow.

Zach Sheets: it's it's It's similar. you ever Have you seen Silent Night, like the John Woo movie?

Chris Prime: No, didn't see that one.

Zach Sheets: like The setup is kind of similar to that, where it's like his son gets killed, and then he spends the next year like like training gearing up like to like get revenge. Yeah.

Zach Sheets: but But he has like is like a a ton more targets. He like kills like 50 people or something. so

Chris Prime: Well, it's like, yeah, he's going after like a mob.

Zach Sheets: An entire you like like crime organization.

Chris Prime: I don't want to give that movie a shot. It's just like, I keep forgetting that it exists.

Zach Sheets: yeah, but yeah, Frank Riddler just has this one guy which i feel I feel like like, know, the character like the Punisher would just have like a field day in this universe. Just like, you come up with your targets and you just like you can just kill them all with like and have no legal consequences don't think there's ever been like a vigilante character that's been like in the purge universe it like i'm just like i'm gonna research who like the worst people are and run it is i'm gonna kill them in the purge

Chris Prime: Yeah, like like a Purge Punisher.

Zach Sheets: yeah yep

Chris Prime: Punisher Purge. I would have been for it. like the The series could have went in that direction, too. But it makes sense that in this one, they want to have a morally gray area, but the concept is that there is no morally gray during the Purge.

Chris Prime: It's just like you can kill yeah kill or be killed, and even then...

Zach Sheets: kill or be killed.

Chris Prime: there's no consequences for the law. You still have live yourself later, which is, never like go into the day after the purge movie.

Chris Prime: You know, it's like,

Zach Sheets: The actually the second season of the show goes into that. That's like the entire premise of the show.

Chris Prime: see, that's i like, as much as I'm like, Oh, could have, would have the show does it better of like expanding that. And I, if anything, this would make me want to go see the TV show.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm. Like, there's a whole, like, the second season of the show, like, there's, like, a whole other holiday after the Purge called, like, Purge Remembrance Day, where everyone, it's like, you'd, like, remember everyone who died during the Purge?

Chris Prime: oh See, like, it's a great premise.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: A lot of it is like Twilight Zone sort of what ifs or like Black Mirror. But instead of, you know, where's technology or my morals leading me to?

Chris Prime: This is just like, hey, you know how crazy America is like,

Zach Sheets: You know what crazy is right now? What if it was like slightly crazier?

Chris Prime: Like, not even that much crazy. Just, like, for 12 hours. Not, like, a whole day. Not even two hours. like or Or, like, you know, some long extended period. it's like, oh, no, it's not just, like, one city. It's everywhere.

Chris Prime: And now you made killing legal. But, like, you don't have to kill. That's not the only thing you could do during this, like, restricted rules.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, all all crime is legal.

Chris Prime: But then they also said that like you can't use anything above a certain weapon grade. It's like...

Zach Sheets: yeah You can't use explosives. You can't target like government officials. Which is like, they're like, you can't kill us. like You kill everybody else, but not us.

Chris Prime: I mean, yeah even if you try to kill another government official, it's like, what, you you got you guys in Dollmask are going to try to like storm like a government building that's going be armed to the teeth because they're the ones who started this holiday in the first place?

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: like I gotta see in the show if there's ever someone within the organization that goes, hey, maybe we should just wait, turn this time. And then rebel because like there's no laws.

Zach Sheets: Well, I think one of the characters in the second season is she works in like a surveillance, like a New Founding Fathers surveillance center that monitors things that are in the Purge. And then she sees something that she doesn't see.

Zach Sheets: targeting

Chris Prime: That makes sense. It's a Michael Clayton kind of thing.

Zach Sheets: her. And there's also like a which You could probably do a whole movie about this, but like there's like a heist crew that like pulls a job during the purge. Because obviously like if you if you pull it off during the purge, it's legal. like You can't be prosecuted.

Zach Sheets: But then it's it's it's funny in this movie, they they say like, oh, all the banks move their money out of their of the bank during the purge. So you don't get to steal it.

Chris Prime: Probably that was something they realized after the third year.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, I mean, like, i am im surprised there's not more, like, looting or like, people, like, just, like, stealing things. Like, it's, like, I mean, because, you know, it's legal. You can steal whatever you want. It's legal. like it's It's yours now if you can get it home and survive. You

Zach Sheets: can steal a car. You can steal, like, TVs. You can steal, like, but whatever you want. you know Jewelry. i mean, most stores probably put up, like, you know, barriers that you'd, like, break through. But, like, if you can get in and steal stuff, you're good.

Zach Sheets: but yeah, but but most people are just like, ab I'm going to kill people. going to bash people with a baseball bat or shoot them.

Chris Prime: Yeah, everyone just sort of like runs at everyone like no one has a gun. you know There's a scene in the middle of the movie, or maybe like near the opening movie, where they're walking the streets and one of their guys gets like caught in and a snare.

Chris Prime: And then there's just people running, screaming with like a bat. They're like, I'm out here to beat you. It's like, what's to say that whoever you're attacking isn't armed? Like, way more armed than just a melee weapon.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, why why would you not have a gun if you're going to be out there in the purge? Why would you choose a melee weapon? Except for like maybe like the visceral thrill. like I get to bash someone in the face a bat or something. but like ever like The majority of people out there going to have like at least a pistol, if not like a machine gun.

Zach Sheets: so it's like...

Chris Prime: See what I mean? Like, it comes down to, like, silly practicality where I know you want to purge. That's why you're on the streets. But you don't have a plan. You're just like, I'm mad. I want to kill. Let me just grab the first thing I have that is considered weapon.

Zach Sheets: You're more concerned with your cool purge outfit. Your cool mask and your weapon. It's like, I got a signature weapon. I got this spiked mace or whatever.

Zach Sheets: And then someone with shotgun just blasts you the face and kills you.

Chris Prime: Yeah.

Chris Prime: That's what I liked about the second, the third movie where it was like the gang of teens or just like 20 year old, like influencer wannabe people.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Zach Sheets: They're like my Super Super 16 horrible like teenage girls.

Chris Prime: Yep. Yep. Who pretty much just like their whole concept was we could terrify someone who doesn't know how to fight back. But then as soon as they meet someone who could fight back, they're like completely useless.

Zach Sheets: Yep.

Chris Prime: And that's like everybody in this movie. Everyone sort of like, oh, we've got some victims we can like take care of until it's like, oh no, they don't know what to do. But I guess majority of the people in this world like don't fight back or...

Chris Prime: they don't have any weapons because everyone is super chill about everything. And so I'm like, in this world, if you made the purge like a mandatory holiday, you would be training. Everyone be Frank Grillo. Like, you know, everyone would be marking the calendar for like how many days you have left. Like what, what's your plan?

Chris Prime: what where how many weapons do you have? like That would be a normal thing. There's a part of the beginning of the movie where there's a guy in the street hustling for like, hey, like you need a gun, eat a knife. like He's just selling.

Zach Sheets: yeah

Chris Prime: And they're walking past him like get away you know like, no. It's like, if anything, that guy's really doing a service. like He's just like, hey, last minute prep check.

Zach Sheets: It's funny, in the show, they show there's like a, I don't know if it's a franchise or just a local store, it's called Purge City, so basically it's Party City, but for the Purge. And it's just like, you buy masks there, you can buy guns, you can buy all your Purge supplies.

Chris Prime: No, that's a business. like

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: I mean, this guy isn't selling squirt gun. He's like, yeah, this will protect you. like it It makes sense that in this world there's whole economy and and a response.

Chris Prime: And Frankville is the only one that like understands understands it the most. and yeah let you know like well'll We'll skip ahead, but let's let's get into the whole dinner scene. The like...

Chris Prime: Where they have like a meal during the purge.

Zach Sheets: Oh, so so when they when they get to, like, Eva's friend's house?

Chris Prime: like That's like one of the the gist of the movie plot where it's like to get to this one location and she lives like uptown a little bit out of like the downtown zone.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: but We got across like, I don't know, like 12 blocks.

Zach Sheets: And they're promising Frank Gorilla a car. Like, there's, like, she has a car. If you get us to the apartment, we'll stay there and be safe, and then you can take the car and do whatever you need to do. then he's like, alright, Deal. And yeah, they get they get there they get this like this apartment and it seems super chill. Everyone's hanging out and it's like, hey, eat some food, drink some wine, whatever. it's it's it's we're just We're trying to get through Purge night.

Chris Prime: Yeah, I was always thinking suspicion that it was more sinister. They brought these people so that he's like these homeowners could do their own private purge in the comforts of their own home. Like, oh, rich people, you know, like the theme would be rich people bring in a victim to kill in their home.

Chris Prime: But the poor people can do the same thing. Like they can indulge like rich people, like invite your friends, murder them.

Zach Sheets: yeah

Chris Prime: I was getting that feeling.

Zach Sheets: I feel i felt like they could have done a thing where like Tanya, like Eva's friend, maybe he was like, because she's like popping pills too and like drinking wine. like If she like point like put pills in everyone's drink or something, or like it was like like it's like, we'll we'll all go down together.

Zach Sheets: like like It's like, why but don't fight it.

Chris Prime: Oh, like a pack?

Zach Sheets: like Yeah, like like a suicide pack thing of us like,

Chris Prime: I feel like she's too happy about life. Usually there's like a hint about someone some point in the movie if it foreshadowed that, you know, she she had a terrible life and she's like sick of it all.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: And then this is the night that she wants to do it. But I mean. You don't need the purge night for that.

Chris Prime: Like she didn't really she just wanted to chill. She just like wanted to hang out with family.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: I get that. But speaking about like Tanya, like. They they I thought in the beginning the movie, the diner owner who i figure who's played by, he's played by. like

Chris Prime: He's played by Magnum, isn't he? yeah The actor played Magnum P.I.

Zach Sheets: I don't think so. takes that

Chris Prime: No, sorry.

Zach Sheets: It was

Zach Sheets: was, Wasn't the Dinerorn like a woman? like Yeah, it was like Mrs. Crowley.

Chris Prime: You know, I'm Nicholas Gonzalez. It's like a guy that. He's in the good doctor. But yeah, he's like part of the diner crew.

Zach Sheets: Oh, yeah. He's like the, like the, he like works there too. He's like, Hey, Eva, you want to ride home? And he's he's like, nah, I'm good. and the time is like, I would, i would ride him. i would ride, go home and and ride him.

Chris Prime: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That sounds was like, oh, is he not the owner or something? But yeah, if anything, they she was looking for a raise to help pay for the medicine for the father. That's sick.

Zach Sheets: oh which we did do we mention like he, is like he like sacrificed himself to like, to the rich people?

Chris Prime: Yeah, yeah we we didn't go into it, but it's crazy how that is just like a scene.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, he's made a deal with his family that they're going to pay $100,000 and then he will let them kill him in their house. And then it's shot like a dream sequence where it's like they almost seemed like this it's like a possibility that this happen, but maybe they can stop it.

Zach Sheets: And then Noah's just like, no, he's dead. like they They killed him. They shot him with machetes. We don't see it, but he's never he never comes back.

Chris Prime: It's implied.

Chris Prime: I mean, it's sad, but that's like its own movie. That would have been like, we have to rescue our father or like something happened to him along the transport.

Chris Prime: But no, seems like when the purge happens, that guy's dead. Like these rich people won.

Zach Sheets: But

Zach Sheets: yeah, but but but this house party this like house party like turns crazy because... tanya's sister lorraine like so like tanya has been having an affair with like lorraine's husband and then lorraine just like shows like pull like pulls like gun just like blasts tanya away everyone's and everyone's just like what the hell's going on what even

Chris Prime: Oh, she's purging.

Zach Sheets: you though yeah even though like like we're an anti-purge household it's like i guess not

Chris Prime: think that's supposed to show that family is like crazy. Like they could betray you too. But I don't get why she had to kill her sister because it's like they had a secret affair.

Chris Prime: And then she's like, well, I'll be the the top woman, I guess.

Zach Sheets: but I'll stay with my husband I won't kill my husband I'll kill my sister

Chris Prime: Wait, so her sister...

Zach Sheets: or kill or kill but or kill both of them i got like maybe if you're like yeah cause then because the husband like husband like like holds what Eva hostage it's

Chris Prime: I think she trying kill both of them. Because...

Chris Prime: Yeah. But she's, you know loyalty.

Zach Sheets: like a human shield yeah

Chris Prime: Well, it's like, okay, so... Yeah, Tanya's the one that, like, is having the affair. She's the one that ruined that marriage.

Zach Sheets: hu

Chris Prime: So, the sister just completely was like, well... Gonna kill you front everyone, all these witnesses.

Zach Sheets: It's my right. It's my right to purge.

Zach Sheets: And then the funny thing is like, it's like, you know, like, like Frickrilla like shoots, like the husband to like free Eva. And then they just like, like kind like they like are able to like get out there and they just,

Chris Prime: They walk out. They're just like, alright, bye. Thanks for the hospitality.

Zach Sheets: He gives us a color fire to get out and it's like what's that family gonna do now? never see the rest of the game that. Are they just having a super awkward conversation? Are they kill each other?

Chris Prime: I think you're not supposed to know. Obviously, it's to show that basically this is like one of many problems during this like rage fuel night that people can just think you can kill without any consequence.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: But yeah, like it's going to hard to explain to your parents later because they get there. They're just like oh, God.

Zach Sheets: yeah yeah

Chris Prime: But yeah, it's purge. but It warps everyone's reality.

Zach Sheets: this The next morning, Raines is like, well, that was crazy, wasn't it? That was a crazy purge.

Chris Prime: Yeah, who knew i had but i could pack heat?

Zach Sheets: Who wants breakfast?

Chris Prime: So, during the purge, are you allowed to just, like, illegally dump things, then?

Zach Sheets: like Like toxic waste or something?

Chris Prime: Yeah, like, just because how do you get rid of this body and then explain what happened? Later in the movie, they show you that everyone kind of rushes the hospital, like, because it's what happens after, like, the city's in chaos.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: But I get, like, during it, it's just like, okay, well, like, you rent a...

Zach Sheets: I...

Chris Prime: control Like, let's say during the night, you just rent your construction equipment and just tore up the roads. You know, it's like, you're not supposed to do that or regular like already, but technically during the purge, yes, you can.

Zach Sheets: I'm so crazy.

Chris Prime: Yeah, just that's saying like everyone should have done the like whatever your normal day job is. Here's the nightmare version of it. So just like the but the the warriors, this is like a rogue garbage man or something just throwing garbage on the street or a construction crew just tearing up everything.

Chris Prime: whole plumber's union just unloosening pipes.

Zach Sheets: umvis Travis Travis is so backed up in the morning. It's going be nuts.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, yeah what when the when the the group gets out of the apartment, though, they get captured by like the Kill Squad. Oh, no, they get captured by the the biker gang that has been like chasing them the entire movie.

Zach Sheets: And you find out that like they're going around rounding people up to like bring like this the black market like rich people auction we mentioned earlier.

Chris Prime: Which, it just feels unnecessary a little bit.

Zach Sheets: Where

Chris Prime: This is so much already happening during this movie.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, see it seems like it's just another big like action set piece.

Chris Prime: But it kind of becomes like the running man a little bit.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, because they set up, they introduced these named rich people that auctioned them, and it's like, oh, it's the Hartman sisters! They're going to use their trademark blades on them! And it's like, oh, Mr. Whatever it is, and his two sons!

Chris Prime: It's like, are these professional fighters or just people who are just going to run in there and fight like without knowing who these people are? like There's no vetting.

Chris Prime: it's like, we grab people.

Zach Sheets: yeah yeah

Zach Sheets: It's also weird. you're not you're not ifs The auction isn't to like, oh, i want to kill frank gri I want to pay to kill Frank Grillo. It's like, I want to pay to be in on the hunt. like I want to pay to be a hunter in this in this like hunt a game.

Zach Sheets: And then there's this like then it's like, you get thrown into like the arena they built.

Chris Prime: They built like an underground pit arena.

Zach Sheets: And then they have night vision, which I don't know how it works. It looks like it's just like sea goggles. It's not like any sort of like realistic night vision.

Chris Prime: Yeah, just like Ray-Bans.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Zach Sheets: And apparently like apparently they've never captured anyone who had any sort of like combat experience before. Because Frank Miller just like starts like like taking them out and you're like, what? Someone's fighting back?

Chris Prime: I know, they're shocked. no contingent plan.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. Someone, one of us died?

Zach Sheets: but yeah, he like, he like takes out like a bunch of them and then, but then like they they call in like all the, probably like all the waiters and everything are also like, are like, like, like combat training for like the rich people because they all like burst in with the bodyguards and like, they're go like take out the the group.

Zach Sheets: and And they do kill, they they kill Shane. Like he's, like he gets taken out.

Chris Prime: But he's already on the floor, I mean they just shoot him on the floor again.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. and here here He already got shot before by like the like the flamethrower guys and the in the subway tunnels. He's already been like injured once.

Chris Prime: yeah that's unlike- he was such an easy target to kill.

Zach Sheets: who

Zach Sheets: But then they get they get saved by the the resistance group. Michael K. Williams shows up and he's like, hey, time to kill some rich people.

Zach Sheets: And then they're like... Frank Grillo and Eva and Kelly run out, but then Liz is like, I'm going to, I want to purge now. Like, Shane is dead. I'm going to kill these rich people with like the resistance group.

Chris Prime: Yeah, it's just sort of like shoehorned in at this like climax where it's like so much is going on. Michael K. Williams there is like, I'm here to purge. And the one girl just like quotes back his propaganda. He's like, all right, well, bye.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. Oh, a fan. Cool.

Zach Sheets: I kind of wish, like, if they if he go into trouble with having like them, like, burst in, like, you know, like, kill the kill rich people, like, show us show them killing the rich people. Like, give us, like, the, like, cathartic of them, like, murdering the entire group of people.

Chris Prime: Yeah, you don't get that. It's more or less like they're about to, like but it seems like a paintball game that's about to start with them, and then that's it.

Zach Sheets: they're killing, like, the bodyguards and stuff, but you don't get to see them, like, going after, like, the, like, you know the auction people attending the auction. and then the the woman running the auction, like, Friggold just kind of like scares her, like, hey, run.

Chris Prime: Oh, she running it?

Zach Sheets: Remember my face.

Chris Prime: I thought that was like another random person.

Zach Sheets: No, she's like she's, like, getting in a car, and then like they they, like, catch her before she drive drives off, and Friggold's like, hey, remember my face. Run. Run as fast as you can. she's like, and runs away.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: Bit funny if she got hit by a car or something on the way out. That would have been like a little cathartic of just like, hey, you deserve that.

Zach Sheets: Yeah. Or she runs, like, some, like, a random group of persurers. And there's, like, baseball bats, it like, pounding their baseball bats against their fists or something. they're like, oh, man. Fresh meat.

Chris Prime: It's Tanya's sister. She like like found this purge party.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Zach Sheets: But then, so they had a car, and then Frank Earl was able to, like, get to, like, the house of the guy that he was going to kill with, like... was like five minutes left of the purge.

Zach Sheets: There's not a lot of time left, so he goes it's like he goes in there. he he he disabled like the back gate so that he can get like easily, and then yeah know pulls him out of his bed. He's like yelling at him. He's like, do you remember son's face?

Zach Sheets: look do you but Tell me what he looked like.

Zach Sheets: But then he comes out, and you find out... Well, he gets he's shot, because like... The Kill Squad followed them there. They were able to track them down.

Chris Prime: Well, okay, I don't know one, how that security system was just easily broken, you know?

Zach Sheets: Yeah. Just cut a wire like unscrewed something or... Because in the first movie, the show, it's it's like it's like a giant... like i mean Maybe he didn't buy Ethan Hawke's brand or whatever he's selling, but like most people have like like a steel barrier that comes down that like kind of like blocks your like your windows and your front door and stuff. Or just nail up like boards. But see like this guy had like a he probably had a pretty like decent you know protection. He was in a pretty nice house.

Chris Prime: but he just sort of sleeps with like confidence. It's like, you know what? I'll sleep during the purge. Whatever.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, no one's breaking in. yeah.

Chris Prime: There's no reason for anyone to hate me.

Chris Prime: It would have been this karma effect that you think he's innocent, but then it's like, that's where that's the same party and like house that the the father was killed in.

Zach Sheets: oh yeah

Chris Prime: Just come full circle where like Frank Grill forgives him, but then the the waitress mom doesn't. And it's like, why did you do this?

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: just Well, I was like, did that other killing? I got a taste for killing.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, but they, but they it's kind of, it's it's unclear if like if Frank Grille killed him or not. He of the of the house and then gets like blasted by Big Daddy who shows up. He's got like his his big rig there.

Chris Prime: yeah He quietly snuck up on these people.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: And here's the thing. That guy shoots him with, I think, like, a revolver. Something pretty loud, right?

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: And then the frank the waitress and his her daughter are not bothered by that. It's only when you know the other shooting happens do they notice there's a shooting.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: Then they run out of the car like, hey, what's going on?

Zach Sheets: Well, the twist is that Warren, the guy that Frank Odo was going to kill, comes out. So if Frank Odo didn't kill him, he like let him live. And then Warren shoots Big Daddy and like kills him.

Zach Sheets: And then like the like the Big Daddy's kill squad is is like rolling up to like kill everybody, and then the sirens go off and the purge is over. So then it's like, well, alright, you guys are you're safe.

Chris Prime: The kill squad is just like, alright, I guess we'll go home now. See you next year.

Zach Sheets: Yep.

Chris Prime: No way will this be like revenge for next time.

Zach Sheets: I'm sure they were just like they're just like paid... I'm sure they had like no connection to Big Daddy. They were just like a a paid mercenary squad or something.

Chris Prime: That doesn't make sense.

Zach Sheets: and then they get Franco to the hospital because he got shot. Which... i don't even know know how long the wait for that hospital would be. Like, right after the purge ends.

Chris Prime: well and then I remember the guys, like I live four minutes away from the hospital or something, so how like when did that hospital open?

Zach Sheets: yeah

Zach Sheets: But still, I mean, the amount of people that are like probably like going there, like as soon as the purge over is over, they're going to get just like absolutely bombarded.

Chris Prime: Oh, yeah. That should be its own thing. Just people in the hospital being carted in. It's like, well, what happened to this guy? Well, he met the maniacs that hold like, you know, meat cleavers. And then what happened to this guy? That guy got killed by or this guy's injured by the gang that i don't know, lace candy. like

Zach Sheets: Yeah, because all emergency services are off during the purrs. You can't like call 911. You can't call the cops. You can't call the fire department. like But then, i think the third one is they introduced the idea that there's like people driving around in armored ambulances that are helping people.

Chris Prime: Yeah, that that was a new one.

Zach Sheets: Yeah.

Chris Prime: Where it's like, we're aggressive medical, like army medical, where it's like, we're here to provide any kind of relief.

Zach Sheets: to try to save people they don't die. Because if it's the first hour the Purge and they got shot, they have to wait 11 until the hospital's open.

Chris Prime: That's terrible. That was... That is what, like, war hospitals are, like the Doctors Without Borders.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, I think that's pretty much it's pretty much it for Genarchy. i mean, i would say it's definitely the strongest one in the franchise.

Chris Prime: Uh, yeah, it's... I think I've seen Election, like, two or three times, but Anarchy is...

Zach Sheets: i'll put i would say, yeah, this one in the election year is like is like the top two for me, I think.

Chris Prime: i think I've seen more.

Zach Sheets: But like definitely, like, if anyone if anyway has seen it, I don't know how you see the show now, but the show is surprisingly good. so if anyone's, like, interested in, like, the more of like, the world building of the show, like, of the The Purge, like, the show show really, like, digs into, like, weird, more, like, crazy world building stuff.

Chris Prime: all these questions that we're bringing up and things.

Chris Prime: I think at one point the show was on Amazon Prime, but I don't know anymore.

Zach Sheets: Well, it was a USA show because they debuted, it was, like, The Purge and then the Bourne spinoff show, The Treadstone, came out at the same time. And then Treadstone like did it even worse than the Purge show. It canceled after one season, and then Purge got two seasons.

Zach Sheets: But it's not... like Last time I checked, I don't think it was on Peacock or anything. I don't think it's... It's not really anywhere to stream right now.

Zach Sheets: I'm sure it's somewhere. I'm sure if you like you know dig on the internet, you'll probably find it.

Zach Sheets: and yeah And then the first Persian Furrypur are okay.

Chris Prime: First Purge is like a low budget version.

Zach Sheets: The first Persian has an awesome ending because it basically ends like the braid where it's just like, you're attacking like apartment built complex and it's just like the one guy has to go and take out all all these like kill squad mercenaries.

Zach Sheets: yeah, it's been like... when When the Fur Purge come out? Because it's been like a while.

Chris Prime: like, five years, 2021.

Zach Sheets: Yeah, so... i don't i don't I don't know if we'll ever get another Purge movie. I think it's maybe it's kind of like... It seems like it's kind of dead...

Chris Prime: I think you just, it needs to not be an every few years movie. It can come, it's like, and things happen, like, in this world now, you could probably make another Purge movie and have it be politically relevant to something.

Chris Prime: Or just, like, take it from, like, the perspective of, like, 28 Days Later, where it's, like, you know, very different view or the world changed. All the things that we kind of brought up, it's like this this per this version of the purge is people like cheating. Instead of like murdering, it's just like people like, I don't know, breaking their vows.

Zach Sheets: kind of looked like the last thing that happened was like, Yeah, it's like so like for there's like there's like groups of forever purge people like like just like not stopping, and then New Funny Fathers are going to have to like stop... like They have to basically put deploy like the military to stop them. But then a bunch of but people are also like also like fled to like Canada and Mexico. that was the thing Canada back to the we're like, we're going to open up borders for six hours. If you can get across the border, you're safe. Because, like, obviously, like, it's just like, now it's like absolute anarchy in America now. But

Chris Prime: Makes sense.

Zach Sheets: yeah, it's, I mean, it's it's overall, it's a solid franchise. Like, I don't i don't think either of us, like, enjoyed as much as, like, the Saw franchise, but it's, it's,

Chris Prime: Yeah. Yeah, like the Purge franchise is like you like the idea and then. They kind of stretch it for as long as they could.

Zach Sheets: Mm-hmm.

Chris Prime: I like it just once in a while just because it's like we like gratuitous gore and violence, but you kind of need a little bit of order for just like, okay, where's this going? Where's this world now?

Chris Prime: After so many, like I don't know, 14 years of purging and in the storyline.

Chris Prime: But yeah, I can see why it's like it dips and then sometimes it comes back. But... Who knows? Who knows where the if they're ever going to do more right now, Blumhouse is just they got obsession.

Zach Sheets: one

Chris Prime: So we're back to just like supernatural horror.

Zach Sheets: yeah Yeah. It's kind of like... one like what like Someone has that yeah someone just says an idea for like a some sort of like original horror movie and they just make it...

Chris Prime: there a monster in my sock drawer? That's a movie now.

Zach Sheets: I mean, for a while they were like... It was just like... it's an evil pool. It's an evil teddy bear. It's like there's some not great Blue Mouse movies, but...

Chris Prime: Yeah. That's like, sometimes he gets it right, but then this this was good. This was, you know, what if your neighbor was evil? And it was like, totally, like, no law to protect you from that.

Zach Sheets: But yeah, definitely check out... If you watched Perjano Anarchy in while, definitely check it out or you know check out the rest of the series.

Zach Sheets: And come back next week, we'll be diving into David Cronenberg's The Fly because it's celebrating its 40th anniversary. So we'll get into all the all the gory bits of that movie.

Zach Sheets: And over to the site, all our users out there. We've got news, reviews, trailers. I got a review of Spider-Man Brand New Day up the site. So definitely check that out over on Read That on site. And we got our, you can still check out our Demons commentary. We watched the you know Italian horror classic for our July commentary.

Zach Sheets: And we got another coming up soon for August. So stay tuned for that.

Zach Sheets: And yeah, head over to the for all of our stuff as well. And yeah, so for Chris, I'm Zach, and we will see you next week.

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