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S2:E6 Part 1 - A Good Girl’s Guide to Murder
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Our mystery theme continues as we dive into the dark and twisty world of A Good Girl’s Guide to Murder by Holly Jackson—and no, we’re not planning any crimes (we promise). In this episode, we’ll be comparing the first two episodes of the TV adaptation to the book, sharing our initial ratings, and debating whether the show got it right.
Hosted by Keri with co-hosts Lindsey and Crystal.
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(00:00) Introductions
(02:16) Ratings
(06:35) Book vs Series Breakdown - Episodes 1 & 2 (SPOILERS)
(46:25) Persons of Interest List
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Introduction to 'A Good Girl's Guide to Murder'
00:00:08
Speaker
crime enthusiasts welcome to based on a book where we cover stories that have more twists than a season of love island your favorite clueless detective is back i'm carrie always two steps behind but somehow still on the case i'm lindsay and i love a good murder board and i'm k crystal i don't have enough red string or pushpins for this book This episode is my pick for March Mysteries, and it is the young adult mystery novel, A Good Girl's Guide to Murder by Holly Jackson, and it's 2024 six-episode TV show made for BBC, which was eventually released internationally on Netflix.
00:00:53
Speaker
So this is going to be an extra special episode because we are going to be covering and releasing this episode in three parts where we will only be covering two episodes of the TV show at a time, which you will see in the titles and the details of our show notes.
00:01:08
Speaker
Basically, we are just giving ourselves more time to cover more material in a TV show and splitting it up so it's easier to navigate for our listeners.
Pip's School Project and Murder Investigation
00:01:18
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So I'm going to but yop I'm going to set the scene as we usually do, but I'm going to make it short and sweet because no one wants to know too much about the mystery before we get into the mystery.
00:01:33
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So we have a small town and our main character Pip decides to take on a school project for her senior year where she investigates a murder case that everyone in this town talks about.
00:01:45
Speaker
After a popular high school girl, Andy Bell, disappears, everyone in this town, including the police, believe that she was murdered by her boyfriend, Sal Singh. Pip thinks there's more to the story, and this book is her investigation.
00:02:02
Speaker
So we don don we have only read book one for the podcast, but this book does have a conclusion to the overall mystery in the story.
00:02:14
Speaker
That being said, I looked into it and it is a continuous series with the same characters. So now let's get into the ratings. And it only feels right to start with the murder queen herself.
00:02:29
Speaker
Okay, Crystal. Okay, okay. All right, so for this one, I gave it 3.5 capstones. Okay. okay all right so for this one i gave it three point five capstones Okay. I really liked the whodunit aspect. i like the I liked the mystery. It was really well written.
00:02:56
Speaker
I didn't like some of the characters and you could tell it was very YA. who So that's why I gave it 3.5 and not four. Cause I almost gave it four. Oh, also not going to say it, but you all know something happens and I was not happy. Yeah.
00:03:15
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definite I knew that. I saw that one coming. Okay. Crystal. Crystal. I have this 3.5 unknown colors.
00:03:27
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I felt basically the same way. I liked the mystery part of it. I feel like it left me
Content Warnings and Adaptation Differences
00:03:33
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guessing. It left me readjusting my own theories as I was reading along.
00:03:38
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And I really loved that. But it was definitely very YA. There were definitely a lot of characters that I felt like were
00:03:50
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and don't want to say immature because they're young. They're teenagers. They're supposed to be immature. But even some of the adult characters were a little immature, one-dimensional kind of... I don't know. i There was nobody in the story that I particularly fell in love with or rooted for.
00:04:10
Speaker
But the mystery part was really fun. Okay. So for me, I gave this book...
00:04:22
Speaker
So this book actually somehow became one of my top books of the year so far. Whenever she giggles like that, I know that means, oh no, she's either rated it way, way lower than us or way, way higher than us I like this isn't even whenever I say a book is like,
00:04:41
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one of my top of the year, I always give it like a six star because like five, there's like five
Pip's Investigation Deepens
00:04:48
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stars that are like my favorite. And then there's like six stars, like that's going be in my top of the year.
00:04:54
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I don't know what happened, but I was consumed by this f freaking story. I'm reading this, if I'm reading a physical at night with my book light on,
00:05:06
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The book light that I have around my neck that has little headlight hit headlamps on, like i never want to do that. I'm i'm a Kindle girl. I never want to be reading my physical in bed.
00:05:17
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But best believe I was staying up all night finishing this book. I don't know why. it just completely consumed me. And I just couldn't put it down. And i was obsessed.
00:05:31
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I thought finished it pretty quickly. Yeah. I binged the hell out of that book and I loved it. And it was just like, it's not a cozy mystery whatsoever. No, no.
00:05:44
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to me, this is what, for me, this is cozy. Because it's like the YA mystery is what... like I was very much into the young adult novels like this when I first started reading.
00:05:58
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But it was more like the fantasy side. So whenever I started this, like it kind of reminded me of The Raven Boys by Maggie Stiefvater.
00:06:11
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it Minus the fantasy part of it. so if you've ever read that series, it's just like... The mystery part of it, plus like the main character trying to discover what's happening in this small town. I don't know. Like it just gripped me and I couldn't stop reading it. So I get it.
00:06:30
Speaker
It was definitely I really liked it. It was it was not bad by any means. Yeah. So let's go and get into our book versus show. Breakdown and get into all the spoilers. So from here on out, we will have spoilers for only episodes one and two of the TV show.
00:06:50
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That being said, i ain't perfect and I'm going to try really hard not to spoil the rest of the show. I'm going to try to stick to only episodes one two, but I'm the clueless detective and you're not allowed to be mad.
00:07:04
Speaker
I don't make the rules. That's just the rule. It's the rule. So grab your string, start your recorder, and get that murder board because we got a suspicious crime on our hands. But first, let's start with some content warnings because just because it's young adult doesn't mean it's not dark because it's pretty dark.
00:07:22
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It's pretty dark. Yeah. So content warnings are murder, violence, themes of suicide, trauma, and emotional abuse, gore, substance abuse, talk of rape, but I don't think that there's any on page. There is like a flashback. I don't remember any rape on page, but there is talk of rape in the past, sexual assault, kidnapping, animal death, and drug use.
00:07:48
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If you can think of anything else, let me know. didn It's so hard to put the content warnings together because you're always like, wait, did I miss something? Yeah. But I mean, the story graph is pretty good when it comes to content warnings. If you want to go look at that as well, they'll show like major content warnings, minor content warnings, things like that. So they're usually pretty good at it. But start off with episode one of the show.
00:08:16
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So a big difference starting off is that they are set in two completely different places between the book and the scale. I actually read this. It's only different in the American version of the book.
00:08:29
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um Oh. They re-released it in America and changed it in the original British version. ah It's where the TV show takes place. I had no idea. Interesting. Because the author is from England, right?
00:08:44
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I believe so. That I don't know. Yeah. and didn't read that. Okay. Okay. Well, yeah. So the show is set in England, but the American version of the book is set in like Connecticut, um but still has the same small town vibe where everyone knows each other. Everyone is nosy and, you know, and everyone knows about famous murder that happened in this small town.
00:09:11
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which is very popular high school girl, Andy Bell, was allegedly murdered by her boyfriend, Sal Singh, who then committed suicide after her death.
00:09:22
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That is the story. So set five years after this event took place, we have our main character, Pippa. She's in high school or whatever the equivalent is in England.
00:09:37
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he She's in her senior year and she's doing like a final project for her senior year. And she decides to research this very famous criminal case in her town.
00:09:49
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Which is, I think it's kind of crazy. only five years old. It's fresh still. This is not like an old, cold, unsolved mystery. This is a fully solved, fairly recent case. Yeah.
00:10:04
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And in the book, it's kind of set up in like a mixed media type. So first page in you're set you're given like the project proposal of what the project is. And it's like her capstone project, like what the purpose is and like why she's doing it.
00:10:22
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And she wants to research into this case. And the purpose of her project is she says she wants to interview missing person experts, local journalists who reported on the case,
00:10:33
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newspaper articles, things like that. She wants to use it as a study to report on how print, television, and social media became a key player in the police investigation and the implications of how the press presented Sal and his alleged guilt.
Breakthroughs and Threats in the Investigation
00:10:50
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So now I'm going to do like a little, a murder intro, if you will, because I feel like the show doesn't really do anything This justice, like I felt like the show.
00:11:05
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Like I felt like the only reason I knew so much about what went down was because I read the book. Yeah, no, I agree. So. I felt like the show wasn't giving enough details. Like I was watching it with other people and I was like telling them more information about what happened.
00:11:24
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And I was like, I wonder how this would feel watching this without reading the book. And I felt like we weren't getting enough. But what we know in the very beginning based on the book.
00:11:35
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Based on the book.
00:11:38
Speaker
Welcome to Based on the Book. So this is what she has. She does this. She explained this in her capstone logs. And so what we know. Andrea Bell... was 17 when she was reported missing and she was last seen alive with her younger sister, Becca, around 10 30 PM the night that she went missing and their security footage of her car driving away from her house.
00:11:57
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So this is confirmed. Indy was supposed to pick up her parents from a dinner party at 12 45 AM. So from to between timeframe. So something happened between that timef frameme going to current day in the book slash show.
00:12:15
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Andy's body was never recovered. So the town and police are accepting that she's dead because at the time, Sal was questioned when she went missing about where he was during that period of time from 10.30 p.m.
00:12:33
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to 12.45 a.m. that night. And he said he was with his four best friends. Naomi, Jake, Millie, and Max, these four people, his four friends, he was with them that night.
00:12:46
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And he said that he left at 12.15 a.m., returned home at 12.50 a.m. And it was, like, confirmed with his dad he had alibis for that that night.
00:12:58
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Then, and his friends confirmed that, then his friends came forward to the police after they had already confirmed saying that Sal had lied, that he really left at 10.30 p.m.
00:13:11
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So remember, she left, or there was security footage of her car leaving at 10.40 p.m. Now his friends are saying that he actually left their house at 10.30 p.m.
00:13:21
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So now he's a suspect to the police. So then later, Sal's father, or I think, I believe it's like the next day or something following after the friends come forward saying that Sal had lied.
00:13:34
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Sal's father receives a, quote, confession text from Sal, and Sal's body is later found in the woods, and it is ruled a suicide. Following day, police reveal at a press conference, one, Andy's car was found parked on like a residential road.
00:13:54
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Two, they found Andy's phone on Sal's body, traces of Andy's blood under his fingernails. Three, Andy's blood was discovered in the trunk of her abandoned car. Four, Sal's so soo's fingerprints were all over the inside of the car.
00:14:14
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So now, the reason why Pip is taking on this case is because, taking on the case, like, she's not a 17-year-old girl. Right. Pip hates that there is no allegedly here.
00:14:28
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It's just, there's no probably or most likely. There's no trial. He's just guilty. And she doesn't believe that. But in the show, she actually appears to have more motive because she keeps having these flashbacks to her younger self.
00:14:46
Speaker
Seeing Andy and Sal have this argument, like she's at her locker and Andy walks by looks like she's crying. Sal walks by, looks like he's upset.
00:14:59
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And it I want to say it's like right before she goes missing because It's the days. Yeah, that day she witnesses this argument.
00:15:09
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And that also is a motive to her taking on this project as well in the show. That is not in the book. But she also kind of like she grew up knowing Sal and Sal was always a good person to her.
00:15:24
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So she feels like there's something else going on with this case and something weird's going on and she wants to look more into it. So that's basically background of murder that this whole town knows about.
00:15:43
Speaker
So back to the project. Present day. Pip is worn by her teachers in the book. In the show, she's also worn by her mom to stay away from Andy's family and Sal's family. So Andy...
00:16:00
Speaker
Girl that's missing. That everyone thinks is murdered. Sal. Who is. Everyone thinks murdered. Andy wants to say, it wants Pip to stay away from their family members.
00:16:15
Speaker
Cause she wants to start interviewing people for this project that were all involved in this crime. And which is interesting that they do that on the show with her mom. I mean, I think that's more realistic. Like the parents wanting to protect her from right don't get involved with the family, but in the book, her parents are very supportive of this project and like wanting her to go investigate and do all these things.
00:16:38
Speaker
The only thing her mom was upset about was the fact that she did too much homework. yeah Yeah. She was working too hard at it. And like, you need to take a break. You need to take care of yourself. You're stressing yourself out. and You're spending more time on homework during the summer. You should go out and have fun. Right. Yeah.
00:16:56
Speaker
Yeah. So the first person that she goes and attempts to speak to like she immediately goes against this and goes to speak to South younger brother, Ravi.
00:17:07
Speaker
And his story and his family's story is very sad because Pip describes his house as the house that everyone knows. but Like, everybody knows where his family lives because they're known as, like, the, quote, like, the murderer's family.
00:17:20
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She walks by and there's spray paint with, like, scum family on the side. She also describes, like, the town just, like, worships Andy and, like, um There's like her pictures are everywhere and everyone is so cruel to Sal's family because there's a lot of racial bias. Yes. you Right. Because yeah Sal and and Ravi's family, like they are, I guess they never really come out and say Indian, you know, American, or but they like a lot of times they like brown skin, like Ravi calls himself brown skin and.
00:17:54
Speaker
He talks about how like it was easy for it's easy for them to hate us. You know, um it's. And yeah, the the whole town seems to just hate them and shun them.
00:18:06
Speaker
Yeah, it's really they treat them terribly. And, you know, Pip goes to his house and. that's the very first person she wants to talk to, to get some information and, you know, interview, cause she's immediately starting her interviews and stuff and maybe kind of talk to and be like, you know, you want to help me with this and like, let's prove, you know, Sal's innocence because this this is what I believe.
00:18:37
Speaker
And he isn't really interested at first because he's got a lot of trust issues. yeah In the show, it's a really awkward encounter. Like she's like stalking him and like walking like right behind him with her dog.
00:18:49
Speaker
Right? That was down a narrow path behind the houses. Right. Really, like, directly behind him. Like, you're stepping on his ankles at this point. Like, do you do I know you? Like, are you? And she's like, no, I'm just walking my dog immediately behind you on a very narrow path.
00:19:07
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. and And in the show, I feel like they're built a lot more suspense as in like trying to make it a little more spookier.
00:19:18
Speaker
Yes.
New Suspects and Alliances
00:19:19
Speaker
In the show than in the book. like Immediately after this scene, she's walking in the woods with her dog, Barney. Barney? Yeah. i want to like Okay, that's my first note, though, for the show is what's with the shed?
00:19:37
Speaker
Yeah. What is with the shed? she It's never referenced again. It's never referenced again. And it's not, I don't remember it even being in the book. not. But she's like walking her dog through the woods by herself like you do.
00:19:52
Speaker
and And she just suddenly is like, I'm going to go investigate these weird things that are tied onto the trees for no damn reason. And spooky shed. It's not in the book that I couldn't remember.
00:20:05
Speaker
Unless that was where the Calamity Party happened. Yeah, those were the Calamity Party, like, indications. Those are not, it's not in the book, but those are, like, part of the show. That's kind of what i thought. Yeah. that like cola Those little tied-on things to the trees, but, like,
00:20:26
Speaker
The shed part? Like that... That was weird. There's no rave in the world that's going to be in a murder shed like that. Like that... No.
00:20:36
Speaker
who And then she encounters Becca. So remember Becca is Andy's sister. And runs into her because she's like on a run. And like... Pip is so weird.
00:20:49
Speaker
Pip very strange. Like she will literally run after people... like stalking them. If anyone is, if, if anyone's a suspect, it's Pip.
00:21:01
Speaker
Right. You are the suspect because you are being creepy all the time. You're being super creepy, but she runs in into Becca. This isn't in the book. I mean, something that's very different from the book in the movie or the show that you'll see is the timeline is pretty funky.
00:21:20
Speaker
And, Also, for every clue that you're getting in the show, there's like eight clues in the book, if that makes sense.
00:21:30
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Like there's like eight steps to get to the point that you are getting in the show. Which I get because like you know attention span and stuff whenever you're yeah watching it on TV versus when you're reading it sometimes.
00:21:45
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And you know for entertainment purposes. But I do like when reading it, there's like all these steps. and like I felt like every single page there was like something new being revealed. And that made it really exciting. It's like, what do they call it? Like popcorn...
00:22:04
Speaker
what's it called like a popcorn thriller or something that. and That's kind of like what it is. But so after this moment, she like has this encounter with Becca, but then later ah we meet Pip's two best friends, Kara and Lauren.
00:22:20
Speaker
And we also meet Kara's sister, Naomi. Remember, Naomi was the one who is also Sal's close friend who said that Sal lied about the time that he left. She was supposed to be like alibi.
00:22:36
Speaker
So timeline is a little different in the book. We are missing like Ravi's interview. Like she does interview Ravi at this point and has like this moment with him.
00:22:48
Speaker
But um in the book, but immediately the first person in the show that she is interviewing is Naomi. And it's really funny when she goes to interview someone because she's like immediately like,
00:22:59
Speaker
Not even like a, hey, how you doing? Record. So where were you at this time? yep It's like, okay, like buy me dinner first. Like, geez. Right. Like, oh my God.
00:23:12
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merely recording my words. And like, it's a small town. And so everyone is finding out that big Pip is doing this project and like digging into this case.
00:23:26
Speaker
And Naomi is immediately like taken back by her also because she's just like very looking very suspicious. And it is kind of just trying to get more information about the night that she was hanging out with Sal, like questioning like the alibi. Like, why did you lie in the first place for Sal?
00:23:46
Speaker
Right. And then why did you come back and say that he actually left at this time? And so she's kind of giving more information about that, about that night. And Pip is like, she kind seems a little suspicious.
00:24:00
Speaker
Let me add her to person of interest list immediately. That would be me. Everyone's a suspect. Everyone. Everyone I talk to. The dog, suspect.
00:24:11
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is My own pet, suspect. That would be me. And then also in um the show, you see her... The show's, like, kind of zooming in on Naomi's room. And you see pictures of Naomi and Sal, to like, really close
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:24:28
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together.
00:24:29
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Like, cheek-to-cheek pictures. Like, laying on the bed together, taking selfie-type pictures, too. So they were, like, super close. So the next person she interviews...
00:24:41
Speaker
In the book and the show is Max Hastings, which is also another person that was supposed to be an alibi for Sal. And in the show, she does it undercover at a party dressed as a star.
00:24:56
Speaker
For some reason. That was hilarious. And this man looks 40. The man... That's so crazy, Lindsay, because I said the exact same thing. Same age and everything. but i said, that man is 40 years old.
00:25:09
Speaker
That man is not... not I guess he's what? He's supposed to be like 21 maybe. Right. Nah, he's 40. He's 40. Or maybe 23. I don't know.
00:25:20
Speaker
Nah. yeah He's 40. So she's going to his house to, you know, do her little interview, recording interview. And she's at the scene of the crime because that is where they were at that night with Sal, where he claimed to be at that night hanging out with everybody.
00:25:40
Speaker
And she's just basically asking him questions and asking about Andy and Sal's relationship. Kind of digging for more information to get a feel. Okay.
00:25:50
Speaker
And this is where i the whole quid pro quo thing, getting her to take shots. I know. ah wrote that down too. hated it. Quid pro quo. Like, why?
00:26:04
Speaker
Like, first of all, that it made me laugh because I was like, ooh, Hannibal. But another part of me was like, she was just like, all right, fine. I guess I do drink now. She was like, I don't drink. And he was like, well, then I don't answer questions. And she was like, fine, I'll drink.
00:26:16
Speaker
but That like goes back to the beginning of the episode when her and her friends are in the shop and she's supposed to distract the shopkeeper while they buy alcohol. I was like, not my pip.
00:26:28
Speaker
Yeah, no. Not my pip. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Yeah, that part, I really hated that part. And I was just like, stop taking so many shots at once. Right. And then I fully expected her to like throw up in the bushes or something.
00:26:42
Speaker
Because I know that five shots, like I'm a light. dark liquor too. i'm Five shots licker of dark liquor back to back to back. Boom, boom, boom. Would make me sick. Yeah. Like, and if you are a non-drinker who is the smallest Pip is, like,
00:27:00
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She would have been done for. yeah like As soon as those hit, game over. yeah and you know it was on an empty stomach because she's but been working the party the whole time. She's been walking around. ye Yeah. i was I was frightened for her.
00:27:13
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I was little scared. But then, they like nope, she she was a little hungover, but that was about it. like Yeah, a little wobbly after. can black out on the you lawn at this point.
00:27:23
Speaker
You're like 100 pounds soaking wet. she used that She shouldn't have lasted at all. Yeah. So she asked him for information about andy and Sal's relationship. And then she I mean, the way that she's just walking around this house, like she lives there was freaking me out. Like she doesn't care.
00:27:41
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She doesn't give fuck. She literally, she'll walk around anywhere that she wants. Like she owns the place. Yep. She'll start recording. Like she doesn't care who she's talking to. pictures of everything. She doesn't care how private it might be. No.
00:27:57
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She has no boundaries. Because she's trying to solve the case. And I don't know if I absolutely love that or if it just pisses me off. Yeah. yet Can't decide. Yeah. So after this point, there is a very big moment in the book that does not happen in the show and it pisses me off.
00:28:15
Speaker
So in the book, at this exact moment, Pip decides to also interview Kara and Naomi's dad.
00:28:27
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Mr. Ward, who is a teacher at the school. And like I said, in the show, this never happens. During this interview, she asks him how Sal was in school because she's like, you know, was there any weird indication of like him being like aggressive or something like that?
00:28:45
Speaker
Like, how was he in school? And whether he whether that teacher had ever talked to Andy and he is like super vague and says he had one class with Andy. And that's it. And he also says Sal was I think he was supposed to go to like Yale or something like he was very smart.
00:29:02
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And that's it at that point. But it is not in the show and it should have been in the show. Well, and he also like drops a few other things that give Pip. reason to question other people or new ideas, lines of of yeah possibility.
00:29:17
Speaker
And we don't ever get those. And they were kind of important, some of them, you know? Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of clues missing from the show. And some of them I'm just like, okay, it's fine. We don't really need these clues.
00:29:30
Speaker
But some of them are very important clues that were needed. Yeah. So now, like I said, it's getting around town what Pip is doing. And Ravi is now beginning to trust her.
00:29:41
Speaker
And, like, he's kind of getting on board of, you know, he's like, I want to be involved. And... He then reveals that he has Sal's phone.
00:29:56
Speaker
Sal's phone shows an argument that we don't really know about between Sal and Andy on his phone. and so And it has a text message saying, I'm not talking to you till you've stopped.
00:30:10
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And then it also has tons of missed calls to Andy when she went missing because he kept trying to talk to her. And then it also has a confess the quote confession text. Remember in the very beginning, that was kind of something that you know made everyone go to like his alleged guilt.
00:30:25
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And something that's really weird about this quote confession text to his dad is that it has like perfect grammar, which is unusual for Sal because usually he's just like,
00:30:38
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all lowercase letters, no, like, he's not doing, like, periods, post-tropies, nothing. Right. but This one text has perfect grammar. And there is another big difference between the book and the show is that the book, and whenever they're looking through the phone, the notes app shows a license plate number.
00:31:01
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This entire storyline about this license plate number, not in the show. Not at all. I'm going to refer to it maybe for like a second later, but this entire storyline, it's not on the show. I get why it's on the show, but the fact that the way this clue is put together in the book was really fun to me.
00:31:22
Speaker
And i get why it's on the show, but that kind of sucks. But so episode one ends with a murder board.
00:31:34
Speaker
Big fancy murder board because Pip is putting all these little bits together. But no red string. No red string. No red string. Or push pins. She was just using tape on her wall.
00:31:47
Speaker
Yeah. Which I respect. That's what I would have done. Yeah. I kind of miss the push pins and the red string. It was a cool wall, too. It's like one of those chalkboard walls. Yeah, it was really nice. I like those.
00:31:58
Speaker
Okay, so episode two. now we're in episode two. It's time to move to interviewing Andy's friends in the investigation. And there are tons of differences here.
00:32:11
Speaker
Tons. So many differences between the book and the show. So go ahead. Well, right off the bat, we have Emma and Chloe. Chloe.
00:32:24
Speaker
are andy's best friends in the book in in the book yeah in the show it's emma and nat yeah nat in the book is like is scary is it and and she's andy's like nemesis andy is bullies her andy treats her like crap natalie hates andy natalie like like andy's gonna treat me like this i'm gonna fight fire with fire they are not friends but in the in the show they are um and there is no chloe at all yeah so i think that they almost combined
00:33:05
Speaker
Chloe and Nat together to make a Nat. Like a frenemy type situation. Yeah, exactly. yeah So I think that's what they did. It's of characters going on here. There's many characters. There's so many characters.
00:33:20
Speaker
But first interview is with, you know, she's going to go, she goes on like, you know, a Facebook or something it's like, I'm going to go look at, see who were all the friends that were like looking for her when she was missing, who are her best friends.
00:33:33
Speaker
She sees like pictures, like it's like a selfie of like the three besties that she had. and I will say, though, in the book, I love that Pippa uses, like like, what is our 2024 style or 2020 style investigation techniques if you were 17 years old? She gets online. She digs deep through everyone's Instas, through everyone's Facebooks. She's looking at who's tagged in what photos. She's printing out the photos, what times and dates those photos.
00:34:07
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this is She investigates a girl who's been cheated on. And I love it. Yeah. She investigates how I would. Yeah. yeah i I was there for it. I was like, okay, okay, let's let's do this. Roll up my sleeves. We'll get in there with you. Yeah. It was very...
00:34:25
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That was super believable and super kind of fun because, mean, I've done that, you know. Except in the TV show, she had the pictures on the wall. But then Ravi shows up and he was like, oh, you haven't put these in chronological order yet. Let me help you.
00:34:41
Speaker
So he has to put them in order for her. Right. yeah Like, don't take all of her genius away her. right Yeah. She was so so, so smart in the book.
00:34:53
Speaker
In fact, she didn't share her murder board with other people in the book. That was like Sherlock and he was the, the wa the Watson. and so in the show like we said nat is pretty different she plays tennis and pip is warned by naomi to stay away from her so she still is like kind of like the frenemy type person in the book like we said completely different person um she supposed there is a friend named chloe different person named nat um
00:35:29
Speaker
Then, so the Endgame is still kind of the same though here, where it is revealed after speaking to the friends that Andy was possibly talking to a, quote, secret older guy.
00:35:43
Speaker
So whenever she finds this out, she's like, this could be a person of interest. So now, at this point, she kind gathering like a lot of people of interest in In the book, like, she kind of gathers, like, a list as she goes.
00:36:01
Speaker
She also has, I think, Andy's dad because after talking to, like, friends and things like that, she's noticing that Andy's dad may have been, like, very, like, emotionally abusive, possibly.
00:36:16
Speaker
And so she has that as, like, a suspect. They don't really reveal that in the show at all until towards the end. But that is, like... her main person of interest from the very beginning. it's bold. Yeah. Her very first and her main.
00:36:30
Speaker
Yeah. for For a very long time. He doesn't get wiped out of the person of interest list I think ever. I think the first time he is added to the list, like in the very beginning, because she watches like the interview whenever she like first goes missing.
00:36:46
Speaker
It's like the main thing that everyone always talks about. she He talks about her as if in the past. And during the interview. Yeah. He says was instead of is. Yeah. Whenever it's like, okay, well, why are you saying was?
00:37:00
Speaker
So that's like always, but I think in the show, if you look at the murder board, he's always like, they're always showing it in the show that he's out there. It's just not talked about. When she was at the party and she was looking for Max, she heard him on the phone.
00:37:18
Speaker
Yeah. And he was yelling and he was like, ugh, daughters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So after we find out about the secret older guy, she sees Nat leave after the conversation and leave with her brother, Da Silva, I believe.
00:37:36
Speaker
And who is going to become significant later. But she sees him leaving in the car with him. Like he comes and picks her up from this tennis match. This random tennis match. That she lost.
00:37:49
Speaker
Yeah. To Kara, I think, right? Yeah. So now um we have classic camping trip um randomly in the middle of this...
00:38:00
Speaker
mystery young adult novel ah where so pip cara lauren and three other boys i think there's only two in the show but in the book there's supposed to be three they eliminate anthony or yeah yeah um they all go on this little camping trip and all be you know spooky doing stupid things like bringing out a ouija board or something Yeah.
00:38:25
Speaker
um In the woods. Telling ghost stories. Telling ghost stories. And talking about the the entire murder case in the woods. Like, don't do that in the woods. Everyone be quiet.
00:38:38
Speaker
But then eventually they like see someone in the trees. They see like the flash of someone's phone. Yeah. Phone screen out in the trees. And for some reason, they book it after the person.
00:38:51
Speaker
i in the In the book, one of the boys books it after that person. In the show, Pip runs after that person. gates off In the middle of the dark woods by herself to chase them.
00:39:06
Speaker
I don't know why. I was mad. I was like, come on. and never Never catches them, and then they eventually get back to their tent. But whenever she gets back to the tent, Pip finds a note in her sleeping bag, and it says, stop digging, Pippa.
00:39:22
Speaker
Dun, dun, dun. dun. I mean, that would have scared the shit out of me. I would have told everybody right there. yep I would have been, you guys, I just found this note in my sleeping bag. It's time to pack it up. Also, I have been like, everybody, wake up right now.
00:39:36
Speaker
Who put this shit in my sleeping bag? We out. Not funny. Well, in the book, she does confront the boys because she thinks it's a prank. Yeah. And in the movie, she's just like, someone's watching us.
00:39:50
Speaker
Yeah. And I'm just like, I would i would literally freak out. But at this point, like, Pip is kind of distancing herself from her friends. Like, she is getting tunnel vision on the case. And I can totally relate to this. like Absolutely. I would complete be consumed by this. yeah And I would not be able to do anything else.
00:40:10
Speaker
And you can, like, she is realizing her friends are, like, moving on like, doing, you know, regular high school things. And she's just being consumed by this. She's also trying to get into...
00:40:22
Speaker
college so she's working on like other things like she just like loves school like she's like that uh she's like a student that just like loves she talks about she loves taking tests and things like that i'm like okay girl right slow down slow down relax um so at this point in the book There's pretty big difference where Pip goes back to interview Emma again, which is Andy's friend, in the book. This doesn't happen in the show.
00:40:52
Speaker
And it's revealed that Andy hated Mr. Ward. This is never talked about in the show. Not at all. And... Andy's friend says that Andy used to call Mr. Ward an asshole.
00:41:07
Speaker
And she was like, kept saying all this stuff about him. Even though she didn't even take his class. Yeah. Saying right before she went missing. So Pip is like, what the hell?
00:41:18
Speaker
Like, this is not good because Mr. Ward just told me that he barely knew the girl and, like, he maybe had a class with her whatever, but that's it. It was her sophomore year. Yeah. So, Pip now confronts Mr. Ward again and says that Andy, or Mr. Ward says that Andy was actually, he confesses that Andy was a bully.
00:41:41
Speaker
And he didn't want to like, I guess, didn't want to like talk about that when he was first being interviewed by the 17 year old Pip detective. And he contacted Mr. Ward contacted Andy's father about it.
00:41:59
Speaker
And saying that. He needs to do something about it. Right. And so that Andy probably didn't like him because she got in trouble about it. yeah Yeah, exactly. They had a no bullying, no tolerance to bullying policy. So she was going to get expelled for anything that she did, which yeah I mean, what she did was pretty bad and illegal.
00:42:20
Speaker
But yeah, definitely illegal. So once um they get back from camping, So back to the show. That was just a little thing I had to put in here about at this point in the book that happens, which is pretty significant.
00:42:36
Speaker
In the show, she actually sees Naomi and Max arguing whenever they get back to their house, which is like, why are they arguing off to the side? It's really weird.
00:42:47
Speaker
And then so later, um she does like a little stakeout with Ravi. I love, honestly, I love Ravi. I know. They're so freaking cute. I loved Ravi more in the book, though. Absolutely. Oh, 100%.
00:43:00
Speaker
Ravi in the book was way cooler. Yeah. Way cooler. And honestly, yeah, Pip and Ravi were just both way cooler in the book. Yep. And so they're doing their little stakeout, and they see Nat again.
00:43:15
Speaker
And Nat confesses that Andy used to hang out with Max. And Max was really horrible. And Max... before when he was interviewed said that he like never really talked to andy at all liar lies lies lies lies in the book she wants to reach back out to max hastings because she interviews more people like including becca becca's friend and finds out max knew andy a lot more than what he was letting on that way mm-hmm
00:43:48
Speaker
So in the show at this point, so she's like, I gotta to go talk to Max again because he was lying. So in the show, she goes, this really, this really irritated me.
00:44:00
Speaker
In the show, she goes to Max's house And she's like, I need to go talk to Max. And like talking to whoever answers the door. I forget who answers the door. His dad. Yeah, his dad. He's like, I need to go talk to Max. And he's like, go follow his cologne or whatever. and like, so she gets to walk around a house again. and she Do whatever she wants.
00:44:21
Speaker
Walk around a house. to aran And then finally finds the door that is Max's room. And Max is in the shower. And she's walking around his room. digging around his room drawers open drawers doesn't even care like taking pictures of shit like in the book she wants to talk to max when she goes to his house max is like ah what do you want now and stuff and she's like i want to know why you lied about knowing like andy he's like let's go talk in my room because she said she says it in front of his mom yeah yeah
00:44:54
Speaker
So they go in their room, his room, and he's kind of like eyeing his like a like a board off to the side and of his room. I like this part a lot. Yeah. He's like eyeing the board like on the side of his room while he's talking like and she's like, what is on that board that he doesn't want me to see?
00:45:13
Speaker
And he keeps eyeing it. And then all of a sudden she goes to the board and she starts like digging around the board and he's like, stop, stop, stop. And she gets out a picture and it's a topless photo of Andy.
00:45:26
Speaker
Dun, dun, And in the show, she finds it a top or I don't think it's a topless photo. It's like a photo. just really Yeah. Risque photo behind Andy. behind it's it's so corny in the show.
00:45:40
Speaker
It's like behind, like in a picture frame by his bed of a photo of her, but it's like super obvious, like weirdly sitting there.
00:45:50
Speaker
it's It's really bizarre, but I like how it's done in the book. And he Max reveals that he he he never received that photo from Andy. He found it in a classroom and that he just like kept it.
00:46:05
Speaker
And that he knew Andy because Andy used to sell drugs to him that he would buy from her at calamity parties. And that's the end of episode two. Mm-hmm.
00:46:18
Speaker
And that's where we will wrap it up for part one. Any final thoughts on the first two episodes? So far, our persons of interest, Jason Bell, Naomi Ward,
00:46:31
Speaker
Secret Older Guy, Nat DaSilva, and Daniel DaSilva. Period. Yep. I just love the drama. The drama is just good.
00:46:44
Speaker
so much drama. I love it. I'm here for it. Alright, so that's a wrap on part one. Of A Good Girl's Guide to Murder. If you haven't read the book or watch the next two episodes, go do that so you're ready for part two.
00:46:57
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00:47:25
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00:47:38
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