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Episode 123: That Really Grinds My Hedrons
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Hello, Podwalkers and welcome back! We've been gone with new episodes for over a month (outside of a brief update). And we missed you, a lot. But we also were honoring the mission of the show and taking care of ourselves. This is extra relevant as September is Suicide Awareness Month (links below are always in show notes but want to highlight them). Also we wanted to use this opportunity to encourage more people to come and join our Discord, where we continue to have amazing discussions and an amazing community that was active even during this break!
Now on to this episode!! It's a Goblin Profile... of a Goblin we have very Lore for. But that's never stopped us and it definitely did not stop Alex from creating a deck around our Profilee. It's the Amazing Zada and her Targeted Army! There's a lot of discussion about community in today's episode as well as information on a different way to play Commander.
On another new note (phew we have a lot to say when we've been gone a month)... We have joined The Fireside Alliance. From their main page: "An independent media network and a progressive community of progressive communities"
Again we would like to state that Black Lives Matter (with a link to where you can offer support both monetary and not).
We also are proud to have partnered with Grinding Coffee Co a black, LGBT+ affiliated and owned, coffee business that is aimed at providing coffee to gamers. You can read more about their mission here. You can use our partner code for discounted coffee!
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As promised, we plan to keep these Mental Health Links available moving forward too. For general Mental Health the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) has great resources for people struggling with mental health concerns as well as their families. We also want to draw attention to this article on stigma from NAMI's site.
If you’re thinking about suicide or just need someone to talk to right now, you can get support from any of the resources below.
- National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-TALK (8255)
- Veteran's can Press 1 at anytime to be taken to the Veteran's Line
- Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741-741
- International suicide hotlines: A comprehensive resource list for people outside the US.
- IMAlive: Click Chat Now to access a live online network of volunteers through instant messaging.
- TrevorLifeline, TrevorChat, and TrevorText (LGBTQ+ crisis support): 1-866-488-7386, or text “Trevor” to 1-202-304-1200
- Trans Lifeline (US): (877) 565-8860
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You can find the hosts on Twitter: Hobbes Q. at @HobbesQ, and Alex Newman at @Mel_Chronicler. Send questions, comments, thoughts, hopes, and dreams to @GoblinLorePod on Twitter or GoblinLorePodcast@gmail.com.
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Transcript
Podcast Returns with New Plans
00:00:30
Speaker
Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome to another episode of the Goblin Lore podcast. It actually is another episode. We're back. We're back, y'all. We did. And before I get into the whole spiel, because I got a whole spiel for tonight. We do. We actually have plans. We have plans. I wrote some notes now. That happens when you have some time. I know. And you don't feel like you're desperately running from one stop
Summer Disruptions and Mental Health Commitment
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to the next. And that is unfortunately kind of what was happening for us. Yeah, it was.
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Got off schedule a little bit. We had some plans because it's summer busy and things are happening. And so we were just, it was causing a lot of stress. We were going week to week and we kind of came out of Mental Health Month kind of tired, exhausted, in a good way, doing kind of a lot of great episodes coupled with some charity streams and events that
00:01:24
Speaker
you know, that was associated with the cast and we did another one for the Trevor Project in part of June. We did, you know, some stuff to highlight LGBT kind of issues, awareness, however it was, leading us into kind of into July without a clear good plan after two months
Gratitude and Listener Support
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of it.
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really a clear schedule. And yeah, look, we didn't get out we didn't even get an episode every week because there was just a week or two where we just ran out of time. We did we ran out of time scheduled. And so I think want to thank everyone for for you know,
00:02:03
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the patients with this. I know in the past we've taken some breaks too and our commitment always comes back. And we're so grateful that you come back to listen to us after we take these breaks. But we want to practice what we preach. We talk a lot about mental health here. And for us, it was important to take that step back and to take some time to prepare and get some stuff ready and get some stuff organized and kind of feel in a better place for us. And then
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I don't know about you, Habs, but I'm definitely feeling there myself. Oh, I'm feeling so much. I mean, yeah, I will flat out say I was feeling kind of burned out. And, you know, it's kind
Suicide Awareness Month and Community Focus
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of interesting. We're coming back in September, which in some ways is kind of hilarious because it brings us straight into Suicide Awareness Month and Suicide Prevention Month.
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You know, we've done episodes on suicide and suicidal ideation in the past. We're starting off this month, you know, we've actually got some more lighthearted episodes in some ways, just more community-based episodes. And I just want to make sure we are still acknowledging that we are coming into Suicide Awareness Month. So we always have links all year long in our show notes to various support lines, crisis lines that are available out there.
00:03:16
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And so, we will still be talking about that at the beginning of every episode, even if what we're going to be focusing on today is actually goblins, hilariously.
Joining the Fireside Alliance
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Yeah. And one other quick community note, we do have one new thing that has been our first episode back we get to talk about. I know. The Goblin Lore podcast has officially joined an organization called the Fireside Alliance.
00:03:40
Speaker
They described themselves as a independent media network and a progressive community of progressive communities. And they're just found at firesidealliance.com. They have a Discord, and it's a bunch of podcasts and different content creators who just want to work together to kind of create a good place on the internet. And there's a lot of small groups that have had their own small communities like us here. And this is trying to kind of join forces and try to work together to bring together, you know, like pretty
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strong, good communities that have that were already existing in different spheres, whether it be other areas of pop culture, movies, books, they kind of cover a wide range of other things that we're kind of, you know, we're new being the magic group in
Community Support and Partnerships
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there. And I also want to say thank you if
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you're listening at all chewy from the manna pool who also vouched for us, which is just, I was blown away by that. So yeah, yeah, that, that means a lot. But chewy and just the support from community has kind of got us to this point. Like we're, we've been recording for three years now. And the community support that we get, you know, every episode we post and when we people who interact with us on Twitter and the people who've joined us on our discord, it's just,
00:04:57
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It means a lot to us. It's a big part of what keeps us going. We do this because we love it, but also we do it. That helps a lot to just know that there's people who are having these conversations and who are enjoying the content that we put out, and we really appreciate that.
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And one last thing too, during this break and just throughout, we've also gotten great support from the Grinding Coffee Company. So they've just been amazing us taking a break. And even like you said, when you did the brief hiatus tidbit that we just put out or we that we put out, mentioning the fact that they tweeted at us like, we'll be here. We hope you guys are taking care of yourself, basically.
00:05:37
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We want to thank them to just for continued support and for hipsters of the coast and just everybody and our discord in particular I think we could shout them out every single episode because that discord is active, which is awesome to see and Just keeps me going in a lot of ways like it keeps me engaged Yes, and and is you know? It is so much. There's I know there's there's a lot of
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negativity in bad places on the internet. But there's a lot of great communities too. And this is one that we're a part of. And we've talked in the last 60 seconds, we've mentioned a number of other just wonderful people, places and communities that have all interacted with us. And we are just so happy that these all exist and that we all kind of get to do stuff together.
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But yeah, we're back.
Host Introductions and Episode Dive
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We're really happy to be back recording and putting episodes out for you guys. And so let's let's actually get into an episode now that we got all that out of the way. I was like, do we get everything out of the way? I don't know. But we'll hopefully we'll figure it out. I mean, we didn't introduce ourselves. So we didn't. There are new people that are joining. Yeah, let's, let's do that. And then I'll get into the rest of my spiel. So I'm Alex Newman, phoned on Twitter at Mel underscore chronicler.
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I am Hobskew pronouns he him I can be found at Hobskew on Twitter
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Yes. I got a little thing here. We want to try to do something a little different today.
Revisiting Goblin Profiles
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Again, now we've had some time to talk. We've had some time to plan and try to work some things out. Something we really wanted to return to were Goblin Profiles. We are the Goblin Lore Podcast. That was supposed to be our first series that we started. We did a couple early on.
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I forgot about it. It was like a year, two years, a year and a half, two years between. We returned to kind of revisiting Slobad, but it really was more, it was, it was in a different way. It was under the guise of stigma, but I mean, yeah, that was fairly early. I think that was still in our first, you know, 50 or so. Oh, gosh.
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Okay, that's it. It's been a while. And so we decided, you know, we really wanted to try to come back to that. Like, so we did squee again this year, like, so it was like, all right, so who else can we talk about? Well, and we've, we actually came to two goblins that we think would be really cool to talk about. Unfortunately, there's not a ton of story for them.
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But as it turns out, Hobbs and I both have a goblin deck built around one of these goblins. And so we're going to leave the specifics of Hobbs for another episode. You all can ponder that. We're going to talk about Zada today, who
00:08:26
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is a goblin deck, is a legendary goblin around whom I have a EDH deck. That felt like a weird sentence construction. I apologize for that. We got lost halfway because I certainly did. Anyway, today we wanted to return to a goblin profile, but it's going to be a little different because normally we don't really talk about decks and cards and things because despite the fact that we talk
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about a card game, we don't really talk about the game.
Zada's Story and Themes
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We usually talk about the story and the lore and the community around the game. Or with the lack of story, which is, as we're hearing in every single one of these Goblin profiles, but that was kind of the point with Squee. So yeah.
00:09:03
Speaker
And so today we will talk about story. Zada has some interesting story stuff in there, but then we're going to actually talk about specific cards. We're going to talk about this deck that I built and some of the stories around that deck. And I think that ties very nicely into our theme of community. And hopefully it makes for a good episode because like I said, it's a little different, but we're excited about it. So
00:09:27
Speaker
Unless you have anything more to say about that, I have an opening question here. We have opening questions again. This is fantastic. It's amazing what you can accomplish when you actually sit down and have a little time to organize. We actually used our break to actually do stuff. What a concept. It's been quite a while since I created show notes for an episode. I was like, we have show notes.
00:09:53
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All right, so the question that I came up with is, what sorcery or instant would you like to be able to copy targeting all of your friends? That is a little preview of when we talk about Zada and her cards mechanics.
Interactive Opening Question
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I'm also going to say for anyone who's new, the people who aren't new know exactly what I'm about to say. I came up with this question. I'm also not going to answer the question as it's written.
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Because that's just how I do what I do.
Hosts' Answers and Reflections
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So the sorcery or instant that I would like to be able to cast and target all of my friends is, and I know this is low hanging fruit, but you know what? I spent a lot of time writing out show notes or something. The card I want to cast is Cathartic Reunion.
00:10:39
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Oh, wow. Wow. Yeah, it's it's been a long time. We've we've got, you know, the COVID going on. And we've got all sorts of other situations that have made it very difficult for people to get to hang out. And there's a lot of people, especially, you know, in a community built around a game where you play it at a table in a room together.
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I just really want to be able to have that for myself, but also for my friends and to give people that opportunity to be able to see friends and family that they haven't been able to see for a while.
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It's really funny because I kind of figured this might be the direction that both or one of us would go. I was like, I could do something like Vine to Vastwood because I always want to protect my friends. So instead I'm going with just choosing violence and I would cast Arc Bond.
00:11:34
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So choose target creature whenever that creature is dealt damage this turn it deals that much damage to each other creature and each player. Like I'm just gonna I'm just gonna just I am I'm basically gonna take out the entire table which I will tell you a draw counts as a win for whoever caused the draw. So okay. See I'm in a blasphemous act.
00:11:56
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With that on the stack, I'm going to Archbon targeting me and all of my friends. Don't ask me how this actually works in the real world. But if you damage me and my friends, we're going to really, this is kind of like the, if you seek out vengeance, you better dig to kind of the situations like grave. Like, we're taking you with us.
Zada's Leadership and Survival Story
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And we probably could have survived anyway.
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I'm still doing it. I'm still doing it. I am so glad you went that direction because like it's and this is you know, we try to do things like this. We try not to tell each other what we're doing just so we can get our own initial reactions to it though I did try to warn you that I was choosing a very obvious low hanging fruit option.
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You would probably know I was picking cathartic reunion. I figured it was going to be something with friendships and magic. Yeah. I went high concept. I was trying to ask philosophical real world sort of goofiness thing and you're just like, well, if I'm casting a spell, we're playing magic. We're at a table together anyway. I'm just going to wipe out the whole table because it would be funny and it would be great. Yeah. Screw you, friends. I haven't seen any of you in real life.
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Yeah. Remember, remember how magic, you know, goes? We're not this is right here to make friends. We're already friends. We don't got to worry about that anymore. Right? I'm just gonna explode everything. Exactly. You knew this when you sat down. Yeah. Man. All right. Well, that was perfect. So let's let's get into some story.
00:13:31
Speaker
You know, there is literally two paragraphs about Zata's story. I think I'm just going to read what we have in the wiki here and then we can talk about it. It's so small, unfortunately. Like, I love the card and I think she's cool, but this is... These two paragraphs are almost more than Squee has on the entire gamepedia. That is so sad because Squee's been around forever. Now you made me sad while I was already sad.
00:13:57
Speaker
I might have to change my answer, but only when it comes to you. Anyway, so Zada's story struck by the insight that the rarest and most powerful artifact was talk talk himself. Oh, I think I missed some context. So let's do that. We got two paragraphs, but you do actually need context. So this Zada is a goblin on
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Speaker
Oh goodness, Zendikar. There we go. That's the name of the world. So on the world of Zendikar, which was host to these Elder Tours, the Eldrazi, and then they were unleashed. And we're just eating everything because that's what Elder Tours do. And so the Zada is from the set.
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where these things are wandering around and the people on the planet are trying to figure out how to save their plane. And part of this thing, I think they discovered that they can use some artifacts like to gain power. And previous to this, the leader of their group of goblins, well, he became the leader. There's a goblin named Tuktuk.
00:15:00
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who is kind of fun, but he has even less story than this. He was wandering around old Eldrazi ruins and then got transformed into a colorless artifact creature and then just wandered back to his tribe. And they were so amazed by how powerful he was. He just became the leader. So during all these events of the Eldrazi destroying the plane,
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Zada realized the most powerful artifact was Tuk Tuk himself. So Zada convinced the other goblins that Tuk Tuk was contaminated by contact with the Eldrazi and was a dangerously unreliable leader. She assured them that destroying the construct and consuming its essence would make them virtually immune to the Eldrazi and perhaps confer other benefits as well. So the goblins rose up, overtook over through Tuk Tuk, shattering him into many pieces and then devoured him.
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Zada now leads the tribe, directing them to prepare for survival in a world being rapidly consumed by the Eldrazi. She reasons that places already drained of their power will not be bothered, again by the monstrous broods, so they are establishing settlements and lands that have already been destroyed. Looking for ways to secure more shelter amid the brutal white residue, the goblins that develop domes that hang from stone spires or cliffs and are experimenting with building solid slab construction. So she has this story of
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community rising up against a leader that they didn't think had their best interests at heart and trying to prepare for survival in this world that is falling apart, actually literally being consumed. Yes. Yeah, at this point, the world of Zendikar is being warped, physically being warped by the power of the Eldrazi.
00:16:40
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Yes, and that kind of gets to Zada's car. This is actually called Zada Hedron Grinder, and you can see she's got a giant stone mallet and a big bowl on her back full of hedrons, kind of like a mortar pestle.
00:16:56
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sort of approach. She's a chef. Yeah, exactly. And then and just gonna because there's actually only three cards with flavor text from her. So I'm just gonna read all three of those to give us a little bit more story to work with here. So the flavor text from Zada's card is a hedon holds magic for 1000 years, or less if need be, which is great. It's also a quote I get to see a lot because
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So then the other two are Zada's commandos with a quote from Zada saying, there's a word for someone who brings too much gear to battle, survivor. And then there's also probably my favorite because it's a funny one. On the smash to smithereens promo, because all of these relics have one thing in common.
00:17:41
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every last one of them is made of smithereens. It's awesome, right? And also gives Zada a slab haven, like an old location. It's kind of cool. There's a couple of things too that I think stand out for me. Zada is a goblin ally. So she actually pulls into the ally mechanic, which brings up the community aspect a lot more.
00:18:03
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Yes, and I'm sorry to interrupt your thought there, but hopefully to add to it, Zada's commando is also an ally. Yes, that has an ability to let you tap other allies, you get to use it there, you get to use Zada's commandos is, which also, yeah, so the other thing is that Zada is a named female goblin.
00:18:24
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which is not something that we actually get a lot of in magic or a lot of in kind of goblin lore that we know of.
Significance of Named Female Goblins
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I mean, we kind of talk about like even women goblins are kind of made fun of on the original flavor text like goblin lore. I mean, it's because it's supposed to be like this grandmother that the kids just like ignoring. But female goblins and named female goblins and actually identified gender of goblins
00:18:52
Speaker
This is not that common. I don't know if we have another legendary goblin female. The blue red isn't one from Commander. Oh, that's cool. I cannot think of her name right now. Mizix. Okay, so we got two. Yeah. I'm in a file smasher.
00:19:12
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Oh, it's a couple. Okay, but they're all fairly recent. I mean, they are. Okay, yes, these are like five or six years, which doesn't feel as recent. But we've been playing magic for over a decade. Yes. Yeah, it does. It feels like it does. It just Okay, well, at least there's more than I actually thought. And now my point is moot. No, it's not. No, I think it's a good point. It's a thing that is happening more. But it is a thing that did not happen for a while. And among them, Zata is the only leader.
00:19:40
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Zada becomes a leader for people, trying to protect them, trying to – and in more than one way. This is an unreliable leader. He's been contaminated. Throw him down to find different ways to adapt to their environment, looking for ways to survive as opposed to being – I don't want to say being intelligent, but that's a thing. Goblins tend not to get the planning
00:20:03
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capability when in in fantasy properties goblins don't tend to plan they they just run at the problem they're cannon fodder for the bad guys usually yeah and so goblins like snowflakes are only dangerous in numbers i mean the idea behind our show with the community aspect is kind of this idea though that there are so many of us and that it's just like pure numbers tends to
Zada's Card Mechanics and Deck Building
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be
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what goblins do, they just throw a number of things at you. Yes. And I like that that there's a lot more to her story than even just throwing down the leader and becoming a leader. Like there's other steps like we're gonna do this, we're gonna try these things, we're gonna reason, hey, they're destroying the planet and this area is already, you know, they wrecked this up and left, it might be safer. Let's try over here.
00:20:52
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love that. Also, you know, despite not having a lot of story, she does have a lot of community. And you know, we've kind of talked about what's there. But again, there's a strong community tie to her story, and her mechanics, which we'll get into in a little bit. You know, it's just a quick thing, her story of gathering the community seizing power, eating the rich in magic, former leader who was corrupted by ancient Eldritch magic might be a story some so some fine resonance with these days, just kind of throw that that
00:21:22
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those story beats out there for y'all to examine and see if you decide there's some interesting stuff in there. Unless you get anything else to add there. Well, let's talk mechanics, my friend Mel underscore chronicler. Yeah, so I'll start. Let's start with
00:21:41
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Let's start with her mechanic, and then I'll talk a little bit about the story of the deck, and we can get into some specific cards. Zada, 3-3-4-4, and to be honest, that doesn't matter as much. Zada's ability, whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell that targets only Zada, Hedron Grinder, copy that spell for each other creature you control, and that spell could target. Each copy targets a different one of those creatures.
00:22:07
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So basically any spell that has instant or sorcery, that has target on it, you point it at her, it points at the rest of it. You get to copy it for all your creatures.
Creativity in Zada Deck Construction
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And talking from a male standpoint, this is why I wanted to build this deck. That's super interesting to me because there's a lot of cards that you get to completely reevaluate how they work.
00:22:29
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when you get to do this effect. For those who are curious, there was one of the old Nephilim from the first time around that Ravnica happened, actually had an ability like this. It's a little bit bigger and splashier because Ink Treader Nephilim was whenever a player
00:22:50
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plays an instant or sorcery spell, if Ink Treader is the only target, copy that spell for each other creature that the spell could target. So that includes any player cat targeting the Nephilim, hits every creature on the board, potentially. So I know the Nephilim aren't legendary, that's a big talk in the community about what creatures should be legendary.
00:23:13
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or get played as commanders, even though technically they can't. I have a friend who used to play an Ink Treader Nephilim deck, and it's chaos. And that's part of the reason why I saw Zada and was like, well, how do I get to actually play this deck as an actual legendary creature if I want to build this? Though, honestly, I thought about building an Ink Treader deck before that and was like, what with this? But another reason I went with this, and this is kind of the story of this deck,
00:23:42
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It fits the theme of community because and you know, not just because it makes itself a bunch of goblin tokens, which I'll get into in a bit. I first built this deck as a dollar general deck. And that is a format that the Minneapolis are kind of our Minneapolis play group that Hobbs and I are part of has played a lot.
Dollar General Deck Format
00:24:02
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It was kind of made by accident by Alexedo. Yeah, I know. I mean, it was kind of like, yeah, I mean, kind of looking for a challenge and
00:24:11
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Yes, it ended up kind of he put up he put up like a Twitter poll because he wanted to do a deck building challenge if I'm remembering correctly And he asked like how much should be the max for this deck and he put up different dollar amounts You know, I think two dollars is the most and then it was like two one fifty one and then maybe fifty cents Maybe those four I can't remember precisely but I know a dollar one. So yeah, I did it initially we were calling it like 1d H that's right. It's had multiple different names and part of this is because you see because how the community
00:24:43
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Expands and is really intertwined here in Minneapolis Ryan Sainio was already writing for hipsters and started writing about once we got this format kind of up and running like Okay, cool. How do I then find new cards for this? And so he actually has a whole series just called Dollar General Mm-hmm, which I think came out of a joke just to do with like the dollar stores that yes There is there is one called Dollar General. Yes, and so
00:25:11
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Yeah. Well, and, you know, you have a general and commander or an EDH. I think an EDH is a common general. Yes. Ryan is very clever. Yeah. Oh, he's.
00:25:21
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So that is, I built my Zotta deck as a Dollar General deck when I was looking because that was just, you know, we were playing around the time this came out, this set that Zotta was printed in.
Creating a Dollar General Zada Deck
00:25:35
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So I think I just did like TCG player legend under a dollar or something. I just went through this huge long list of legends and I got to Zotta. It was like, you know what, I want to build this deck anyway. Let's see what happens.
00:25:46
Speaker
The deck actually works really well because most of the best cards in it are weird combat tricks that nobody uses outside of limited. So they're all like 10 cents. Right. I mean, this is like the perfect... I mean, so, you know, when we started this format, it was the same sort of thing. Monoread can be a natural starting place if you think about it for a lot of people. So I started with a Zosu the Punisher deck because the first time that people actually wanted to play this when we got together in person, I hadn't had time to build the deck.
00:26:13
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So, in the 20 minutes while we were waiting for people to show up at Ryan's house, I literally went through and pulled out every card over a dollar and then just threw in random red cards that were either in my binder or another player at the table's binder or boxes or whatever and then some basic lands to then even up the count a bit more because I don't even know if I had playables. But it was like I went through and it was only a handful of cards that actually needed to come out.
00:26:40
Speaker
You know, I don't know that I knew that story. I knew you had your Zozi deck. We'll leave that as something you can theorize about whether that's the deck he's going to talk about. Yeah, because that is another goblin right there. It may or may not be the deck that he's going to talk about anyway.
00:26:56
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I didn't realize that you just kind of threw that together on the spot Yeah, cuz I do that both of the stuff in the deck I like went through the decks that were in my that I had with me and was like, well, what can I make cheap? Ah Yeah, I'm sure that most things in this that was also a funny moment of discovering that like platinum and perion was like a $30 card at the time No, it's not I'm sure I'll be able to keep this card in the deck. I
00:27:19
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That is such a famous... You buy cards, you play them for five years and you have no idea what value they are. I think that's a fairly common story in the community. At least it has been for me. Because I've built a lot of dollar general decks. One of the things I learned about it is I could build them for like $30.
Community Events and Deck Exchanges
00:27:40
Speaker
So most of mine, in fact, all of them, I don't think I built a single one out of cards that I had. Though that was kind of a point I know some people love the ability to just pull out the bulk boxes and build a deck. For me, I would just go to a store, you know, Card Kingdom or some of our local stores or whatever, go to a website.
00:27:59
Speaker
pull up and just start building the deck or build the deck somewhere else, but then just check out all the whole deck in one chunk from one place just because then I have the whole thing. I know what the prices are on it. I know it all fits that thing. That's what I like to do. Then I had a brand new deck that I didn't have to go digging through boxes for. That was pretty cheap to put together.
00:28:22
Speaker
So one other thing I have to share before we move on to India deck is to just I want to point out Alex's brain because it's something that I love. So the other thing that was kind of a nostalgic piece of this that ended up becoming part of kind of the nature of this is that there was also kind of a recapturing of kind of how you used to play magic. And for a lot of us, this was kind of learning with whatever cards were around.
00:28:50
Speaker
I didn't have sleeves. I didn't even know what sleeves were. These decks were rubber banded, thrown into a Ziploc bag, which became known as like the deck box in our thing. Ryan once showed up with like a Target bag that he just wrote Playmat on. Oh, he did more than that. He actually put- Didn't he put zones? He put zones on there. He made it an actual Playmat because there's Playmats that have like the command zone and the different zone, the graveyard and the deck. He did all that with a paper Target.
00:29:20
Speaker
So the first time that we actually did an exchange, so we've done like secret Sanas of this, where we kind of just like randomly exchange decks. And one of the places we did this was at GP Minneapolis. And I mean, you literally like everybody's just throwing out these like rubber banded unsleeved decks. And Alex sets down a deck box with penny sleeves, which was like as far as you would go.
00:29:46
Speaker
Well, that was my first deck was penny sleeves. The last time we did this, we actually did this at a local brewery that somebody in the group set up. I would just guess Mike because it was Alex. I know other people in the group do some stuff like that.
00:30:06
Speaker
That makes perfect sense. But so set up, you know, talk to them and said, hey, can we use your back room for an event? And we got like, what, 12 or 14 people? Maybe it wasn't quite that big, but we got a bunch of us there for this exchange. And I actually had not only a deck box, but I put them at dragon shields, because I had a whole bunch of extra dragon shields. And it's, I can't not sleeve a deck. I can't not sleeve a deck. I get the whole nostalgia thing. And I appreciate that. In fact, because the deck I got from Nate,
00:30:35
Speaker
Um, I think it was in penny sleeves, which I have really appreciated, but then it was also in a, but this was beautiful tech. I love that he did this. So it was in a Ziploc bag, but then he took like, uh, a top loader and put the commander and some tokens in the top loader and made like a little pouch with some tape and tape that to the outside of the Ziploc bag. It was as, as a, as a mill who appreciates mechanics and things like it was perfect. I loved that.
00:31:02
Speaker
One point, one of the times that we got together to play this at that brewery, they had one of those card shufflers and I ran a 1DH deck through a card shuffler. Like one of those automatic card shufflers. I like the other end of the spectrum from you when it comes to this. And that was like, there were what, five people? So they did a pod of Iron Man 1DH at GP Minneapolis, where every time a card was destroyed, every time a card was in exile or graveyard. Or graveyard.
00:31:31
Speaker
from any means including mill, including mill, you tore it up. And it was I didn't participate because I couldn't in good conscience do this. But it was one of the like most fun I've ever had watching someone else play magic, and less for them because they're great. I love
00:31:49
Speaker
group. I love everybody in the group. But it was the faces on all the passerby's. And they just watched someone like Mill three cards because Mike Linneman played a bill that bought those like straight up played. He's just, again, I love everybody. It's amazing. And you'd watch them like, okay, 123. And they just start to tear it and just the looks on people's faces. It was
00:32:14
Speaker
Oh, it was amazing. It was so good. So we're going to talk a little bit about the community element to it and get back to this. But now that we've kept set up, what one gauge is? Yes. I mean, to talk about the community, one of the things that I wanted to... I'm going to circle back to the secret Santa things because I want to explain how we set that up because I think that was...
00:32:37
Speaker
probably my favorite events that I've done in this community. And there's so much stuff I've done in the Magic community and the Minneapolis Magic community specifically that I love. But these events were just, to me, so wonderful because everyone would bring a deck. And again, because these are so cheap, it is really easy to bring a deck you're not going to keep.
00:33:00
Speaker
Because if you want to build it, if you want to buy it like I do, you build it out of your bulk, these things are really easy to put together. And some of these are surprisingly good and powerful. The deck I actually got in our last one had an infinite combo in it, despite being all dirt cheap cards. But then everybody brings them, you throw them in the middle of a table, and then we just roll, and you just grab a deck out of the pile. And then you play it. And that deck you get to bring home.
00:33:27
Speaker
And I just I love the community aspect of we all bring a deck. We all get to play something wildly different that we've never even seen. We don't look at it. You just shuffle it up and you start playing and see what happens. And there's I don't know, for me, at least as a person who has not a I don't want to say not a single, but I have very little spike instinct in me. I very little competitive instinct in me. I just like to play games and hang out with friends. And this was like the perfect way to do that for me.
00:33:58
Speaker
So moving on from that, we'll talk about the actual deck. So in a lot of ways, my Zada deck, because I mentioned, you know, Zada's mechanics, or you throw spells targeting only Zada, and Zada radiates them out to all of your creatures that that spell could target.
00:34:14
Speaker
So it's basically just a combo deck with two specific things that I need, but they're all interchangeable pieces in those two categories. I need a bunch of creatures, which I usually get through a bunch by making tokens, and I need combat tricks.
Zada's Deck Strategies and Combos
00:34:30
Speaker
And those combat tricks then, you know, are normally, again, in commander, really bad card advantage. When you cast a one or two mana red, you know, cantrip, cantrip or combat trick, and you're only getting a little tiny bonus, but now they're pumping my whole team the entire thing. Yeah, let's look at like, let's take crimson wings.
00:34:53
Speaker
Yes, this is this is like amazing. This was a whole cycle from shadow more. They all were one minute cantrips that did like some effect and change the color of whatever creature you targeted. But then because they're cantrips, that means that they say draw a card on them. So this one target creature becomes red and gains haste until end of turn.
00:35:17
Speaker
Draw a card. So that card isn't great in Commander. I don't know that there's any other deck I've played. There's probably some, but it's very small. I don't want to say there's none. I'm sure there's so many legends these days. But in this deck, if I have six creature tokens on the board and I cast this targeting Zada, I know draw seven cards for one mana. That's a pretty good rate. Also, it's nice because it's an instant that gives them haste.
00:35:47
Speaker
There are a lot of cards I have, mostly at sorcery speed that make creature tokens. And so usually one of the big disadvantages of this deck is it can sometimes be, it takes a couple of steps to get going. So people can kind of see when I'm set up and ready and be ready for it. You know, if I make seven creatures this turn, normally I have to pass a turn and they all have so many sickness, they can't attack. But then if I cast something like this, not only do I fill my hand back up,
00:36:16
Speaker
with more stuff that I can cast that they don't know what it is. But now all of a sudden, my whole board can attack. I'm ready to go instant notice, ready to attack. So instant ways to get haste are really good in this deck.
00:36:32
Speaker
Anything that says draw a card. Yes, and I have is a good example. And this is one I use because specifically like people who've been building Zodadex, this is a shadow more. So this card has been out for a long time. So this is one that isn't a lot of Zodadex also because it gets haste like the haste in the card, the cards the big one, the haste is also good.
00:36:53
Speaker
But I have five or six cards that do this that are just cantrips. I mean, even in something like... I should have put an example in here. But there's cards that are like, target creature can't block this turn. Draw a card. I'll cast it on my creatures. I don't care. It's my turn. I'm attacking. I don't care if they block.
00:37:08
Speaker
So that's the same kind of thing. And some of these are good even if I'm not trying to set up the win this turn. It's red. Red is not very good at card draw, but this deck needs cards. So if I can get a few creatures on the board and people aren't really scared of five 1-1 tokens and Zada sitting there, or to be honest, because Zada's ability doesn't even require so many sickness, I can cast Zada and then cast one of these things the same turn to try to refill my hand to get set up for the next turn.
00:37:37
Speaker
So that's, again, it's talking about cards that are just very different in the context of this situation. And very different in the context of any of the other legendary goblins that we've talked about from a mechanical standpoint.
00:37:52
Speaker
You know, when we talk goblins, we generally think of goblins as being like you want to have abilities on goblins that benefit goblins, right? Like you want goblins that are all goblins are going to get plus one plus one and haste or all goblins get mountain walk. All goblins, you know, sack a goblin at a mana. You have some of those, but those are traditional ones that people expect to be good.
00:38:16
Speaker
and they are no yeah this is a lot more of just like it's a token deck in some ways I mean this is like I don't play a lot of goblin token makers you know this is a whole different angle to come at goblins from
00:38:32
Speaker
Yeah. And that's one of the reasons why I love this deck is as I, as I built it, like I built it fairly quickly just to put it together and try this deck out. But I fell in love with it in a hurry. Like I played this deck for, I still have it together. Like I first put this deck together five or six years. And I'm not a person who tends to keep decks together. I have, I have only a couple that I've kept together, uh, more than, uh, to be honest, some of them, some of my decks I'll play one game and tear it apart. But this is one of the few that I've kept together and not only kept together for a long time.
00:39:02
Speaker
I kept it – I would play it in just normal commander despite the fact that it was built as a dollar general deck. But fairly recently, I actually went and updated it then to put in some cards that are more expensive than a dollar. There wasn't too many, but especially a lot of the lords, like I was just saying, a lot of the cards that give all goblins plus one plus one and this ability or that ability because they are good in this deck.
00:39:26
Speaker
But they're good in every goblin deck. And they're not good. And they're not going to be a dollar if you're because we've talked about converting it numerous times, but they're not gonna be a dollar. No, Goblin King was the only one I played in the original incarnation. And that's because it was printed enough that I that there was a version that was like 95 cents. So I was able to put Goblin King in the deck and which is kind of fun. You know, I got to play the original goblin Lord that was in alpha. But I wasn't able to play any of the others. They were all too expensive.
00:39:55
Speaker
But, I mean, ultimately for this deck, they're good, but they're not as good as some of these other pieces, because it's a combo deck. And one of the cards that I really like, to me, especially as a Mel, it's super interesting, though it's kind of anti-Vorthos for Zada's whole story, and that's otherworldly outburst. For a red, target creature gets plus 1 plus 0 until end of turn. When that creature dies this turn, put a 3-2 colorless Eldrazi order creature token onto the battle.
00:40:25
Speaker
This deck is so resilient for goblins. And, you know, again, it's kind of anti-Vorthos there where I'm just leaning into the Eldrazi and I'm turning all my goblins into Eldrazi. I'm like Zada, who's trying to do the opposite and save them from the Eldrazi. But sometimes when you're playing the game, you gotta play the game. And this card is so good for keeping my creatures alive. Because there's one thing about 1-1 tokens is they tend to die. They die a lot and they die easily. Even you pump them up with some
00:40:54
Speaker
bad tricks. And this allows me some flexibility too, where I don't have to try to make attacks that are going to win the
Gameplay Enhancements and Resilience
00:41:03
Speaker
game. I can make attacks to try to take some blockers out, do some damage to people, knowing that I can throw this out and refill my board with bigger creatures to set up for the next turn and have a better board state for myself.
00:41:19
Speaker
It's just also it's instant speed. So, you know, your board starts to spiral, somebody decides that they're going to do something about it. And you start the next turn with just instead, you know, it's, oh, yeah, three twos. Yeah, and it's, you're right. And because it's an instant I cast it on their turn, if they board way, you just upgraded all my creatures.
00:41:41
Speaker
at least on the board, present side. I mean, I prefer goblins over Eldrazi. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. I was about to say like, man, this cast is going downhill quick because we're going to have to fire one of those. And Eldrazi, join me in the Eldrazi lore podcast. It'll be me and maybe Ryan Sejno. He has an Eldrazi deck first. He does. It's so good. And sometimes I hate playing it because it's really good.
00:42:07
Speaker
Anyway, so two other big explosive cards that I just love. Teamer Battlerage. Target creature gains double strike until end of turn, and then it has Ferocious. So if that creature also gains trample, if I control a creature with power 4 or greater.
00:42:24
Speaker
Zata is only three, most of my goblins are one, but this is a really good coup de gras to put at the end of a chain where I've resolved several combat tricks. And it's not very hard to get Zata to be at least, or actually I'd have to hold the tokens too, but it's not very hard to get all my goblin tokens at least four power. No, and what's also incredible, so I had not seen this card until you actually put it in the show notes.
00:42:50
Speaker
Fists of flame. I'm guessing it must have come out like during a period where I wasn't paying attention that See, this is commander legends. It came up before that. I'm trying to remember what said it was modern horizons one modern horizons Thank you because I actually have gotten to play this in a in a game I got to play it at least once before I stopped playing magic due to the coven You sorry, you enjoyed the card you you say what it does
00:43:17
Speaker
So the card basically is it's a it's a two mana that you draw a card. So until end of turn target creature gains trample and gets plus one plus oh for each card you've drawn this turn. So I don't even want to do the combat math matters for blockers anyway. So it doesn't matter. It is
00:43:41
Speaker
Well, maybe not rough is the right term, but it does force you to think about numbers. But it is so good in this deck. Because again, it has a single target. So it casts his auto. And now I create a copy for everyone. And so let's say it's just a normal turn. All I've done is drawn my card for the turn. Fist of Flame gives me a second card.
00:44:04
Speaker
That creature gets plus 2 plus 0. Well, now the next creature, the next one gets 3 because I draw another card. And then the next one is 4 and 5 and 6. And so it does make the math a lot more complicated.
00:44:16
Speaker
One of the nice things about this deck most of the time is it's like, I got Zada and 14 1-1s, and so it's just whatever the stack of combat tricks say. And they all add up to power 6 or whatever. So that tends to make the math much easier for both me and the flackers. This card complicates that. But it's so good.
00:44:40
Speaker
Because again, this actually manages to do both the drawing cards to fill my hand and the pumping all my stuff up. And this is another one that again, unlike Teamer Battle Rage, Teamer Battle Rage is great. That's a good way to basically overrun and win the game.
00:44:56
Speaker
But Fists of Flame is kind of like an otherworldly outburst, where now I don't have to win the game in this turn, because this will fill my hand back up. So this attack for me, to be advantageous for me, only has to do enough damage to the board, enough damage to blockers, enough damage to people's faces, to have set me up in a good position for them the next turn, where I have a full hand to start all over again. Even if they wipe my board, I can start rebuilding it then.
Challenges of Mono-Red Mana Maintenance
00:45:27
Speaker
That's one thing with this deck. A lot of times, I'm trying to play a game in the middle where I'm waiting to see how much I can build and how much I can do to start to... It's hard to chip away at people with this deck. You have to go for big swings unless you have one of these couple of cards that lets you rebuild.
00:45:47
Speaker
After yeah, I mean there's some of these that you said you can withstand the resiliency comes in the ability to draw a ton of cards when it comes to a deck like Azada deck your resiliency comes in by being able to refill your hand
00:46:02
Speaker
usually at instant speed, off of these like one mana cantrips that basically are red draw 20 at times. You know, and so it's like, that's just, there is a resiliency that's there. I mean, the hardest part probably is trying to rebuild mana just because this is, it gets mana intensive given it is mono red.
00:46:25
Speaker
Yes. And mono red does not have a lot of good ramp. It does not have a lot of good get more lands thing. That's the that's one of the big weaknesses. I can't do a whole lot of out with this deck. This just makes me want to I mean, I mana geysers and like every deck I want to play though. So I mean, I have a few things there's like bright stone. Again, I didn't put this in the shout outs. I don't know why I didn't. There's a card from legions I think or scourge block. Red
00:46:51
Speaker
Brets on ritual you gain one mana for every run ready for every goblin you control That helps write your rituals real good That one is that one is is less rebuild and that's more of a set up my final combo Like I've seven goblins ready to attack Do the thing cast a bunch of spells? But like you said the kind trips can really help especially at instant speed because then I the combat goes poorly You know, there's board wipes. There's even you know
00:47:18
Speaker
mass bounce, whatever thing is happening for someone to try to like totally destroy what I have, I can at least go, okay, well, now I'm going to draw six cards, I'm going to draw 10 cards. And that's always good when you can do that.
00:47:33
Speaker
So, and without being token makers, I'm going to just hit a couple. I mean, like, Siege Gang is the obvious. Siege Gang Commander. Do you have the deck list somewhere, by the way? I will. Thanks, because I was going to say, I will actually post this. Yeah, that's a good idea. We'll take care of that.
00:47:53
Speaker
But so, like just CGN Commanders is in, you know, every goblin deck. You make three goblins and you can pay Red in one sack goblin to do two damage to a target. It's a good card in this deck. There are, to be honest, probably better token makers. But getting four bodies for one card is really good in the deck. It's just five mana is basically my turn. Which, there are games, there are turns where that's just fine.
00:48:21
Speaker
One I did want to highlight is Goblin Slide.
Impact of Goblin Slide and Unique Approaches
00:48:25
Speaker
This I kind of put in, I wasn't sure if it was going to be good, and it turns out it's really good in this deck. You put it in because of the podcast. You could admit it. It's fine. It's fine. It's actually, the story of it is the podcast has that tagline because of this card. It is. Because it's in my deck anyway. Because it's in your deck.
00:48:42
Speaker
It's an enchantment. We'll actually talk about the card instead of talking around it. It's an enchantment that says, whenever you cast a non-creature spell, you may pay one generic mana. If you do, put a 1-1 red goblin creature token with haste onto the battlefield.
00:48:57
Speaker
So it gives me haste, which is kind of nice. It helps me to build more creatures. It's a repeatable way to do it, which I love, because then it's like, you know, if I cast a sorcery that gives me goblins, I can pay more to get more goblins. If I'm casting Crimson Wisps to draw cards, I get to make a goblin out of that. There's a lot of just, I can send some sorceries in this deck, so it's good repeatable. But as Hobbes was saying, the flavor text on the card is, goblins, like snowflakes, are only dangerous in numbers.
00:49:25
Speaker
Um, and actually I found, I was playing this deck at GP, uh, Minneapolis right after we started the podcast. And I just happened to be like reading flavor decks. I think we were waiting for a game to start or waiting for someone to come back from something. And I saw this and I pointed it out to jokes. I just thought it was kind of funny. I'm like, Hey, that's great. And he's like, no, that's perfect.
00:49:44
Speaker
That's perfect. And that's been an outro ever since. So, you know, one of the things I was thinking is, this is, you know, some of our legends we've talked about, Cranko is obviously still very good in this type of a deck, both versions of Cranko, you know, you do get to play some of that.
00:50:04
Speaker
It really does. It's it's it tends to be a lot more of a spell heavy deck versus even though you're Swarming with creatures. Like I said, once again, I generally think of just I'm trying to cast goblins Yeah, I just love I love Zada for this reason. Yeah, and it's it's nice. You just like said I love It's to be honest is after I started playing commander. That's why I started I
00:50:28
Speaker
I still appreciated drafting and limited because those were environments where you got to play cards you just didn't get to play in other formats. There are things that just don't matter. A lot of the cards in this deck are just not impactful enough.
00:50:44
Speaker
to be worth a card slot in other commander decks. But in this commander deck, they are way more impactful than anything else could be in that card slot. And I love that. Again, that's why I love this format and this game because it's, I think, Mark Rosewater, who, head designer of Magic, says a lot that Magic isn't one game. Magic is a hundred games that all use the same game pieces. And that is such a perfect example of that.
00:51:10
Speaker
Like I said, I think this has been a fantastic way to look at a creature that is a goblin, like there's a goblin profile. There is an element of the community that we really see in Zada.
00:51:22
Speaker
mechanically, she is just so different than what you mean. That's the thing she just meant to be built around. I mean, it's perfect for EDH and hilariously, especially for 1 DH. I mean, yes, you don't need to upgrade this deck and it can play I've seen this deck play with other like expensive, full, whatever you want to call it EDH decks.
00:51:48
Speaker
Yeah, it holds its own against commander decks.
00:51:53
Speaker
I'll say I'm not playing in like competitive, you know, combo leagues. But I, you know, I'm playing against, you know, you know, some of my friends and folk and then the people in the greater Minneapolis group. So there's no slouches with deck building. There's some powerful decks in the in this community that except mine, except yours, we don't need to do anything.
Zada's Enduring Appeal and Community Role
00:52:13
Speaker
No spike instinct whatsoever. No, no, no, there was not a situation where I played a webcam gaming and got a comment of
00:52:21
Speaker
You know, after your appearance on Goblin Lore and how you are online, I never expected your decks to be like that. I have never heard anything like that because I don't play any cards that would be considered spiky. No, none. Hobbs does not play to win. He just plays to have fun. I don't even know what those cards do.
00:52:41
Speaker
And, you know, that's, that's a joke, by the way. Stage whisper carries. It's a good thing you're using the Yeti, we can definitely hear the stage whisper. So perfect. That's, that's great. Like, as opposed to my old crappy mic that I use when we started recording way back when. Yeah, I still cringe a little bit. I think we did some good content.
00:53:03
Speaker
today, or in general, in general, I am proud of our whole backlog in what we talked about, but not always how they sound when you listen to them. Unfortunately, that's just the thing you learn as you do. That's anything, the more you do it, the more you know about it, the better you get at it. But
00:53:21
Speaker
That's a ridiculous aside, which is what we want to do. So I don't know why I'm always like, let's make it more awkward by pointing it out, which is the goal. We've been talking for 53 minutes for a return, Alex.
00:53:36
Speaker
We have. We want to thank everybody that, you know, once again, if you've made it this far, thank you again for putting up with us and for joining us because it is the community. I mean, it's funny. Zada actually is a perfect representation of the cast in a lot of ways. Really this idea that I think both of us wanting to be a little bit silly with our answers or you be a little bit, you know,
00:54:02
Speaker
you'd be a little bit nicer and heartwarming, but still, you know, we low hanging fruit. We knew we were going with this, but Zada, it works. I feel like this does describe a community that is healthy, is that idea that Zada is a leader is really meant to make everyone around her stronger, especially when it comes to
00:54:22
Speaker
goblins which are fragile. I mean, using it in this way is ways to kind of protect its ways. I mean, there's ways that you can use that you get to target your own creature to save the others. I mean, you know, we'll joke about what we said with our friends, but you know, something like an otherworldly outburst, it's just like, oh, cool, you get to save a creature and turn it into a three-two. It's like,
00:54:46
Speaker
very, very good in a deck like this. And there are so many cards that you can try to discover for a deck like this that are really built around resiliency. I mean, she is resilient. She makes your deck resilient, even if it's just, I refilled my hand because it's a goblin deck and, you know, a board wipe really kills us. You know, like there's a reason that I rely heavily on living death in decks.
00:55:12
Speaker
Yeah, and that's a thing that Mono-Red can be really bad at, and Goblins, especially in Mono-Red, can be really bad at. But because of Zada's unique abilities, this deck has capacities that...
00:55:27
Speaker
are unheard of in other places and are unique in this place. I do want to give one quick shout out to Ryan Sullivan who's on our Discord because he also has a Zyda deck and I have learned some new tech from him and I cannot wait to try it out. I haven't had a chance because, again, I haven't played Magic much recently.
00:55:47
Speaker
That has been fun too, part of our community just getting to talk to someone else who has, you know, the same commander and has found some different things and different ways that they built it. I mean, it was just like, you know, fun talking to people in the Minneapolis group who build the same commander. I can't tell you, just conversations with someone who has a Kozlak deck, same Kozlak as me, built a little differently. And so it's fun to see that and talk about community building. That works too.
00:56:16
Speaker
community building. That's what we're here for. Yep. And we will be catching you all again. And we're gonna be talking another goblin and another goblin deck that is
00:56:27
Speaker
Also has a story. Also has a story and potentially may be very different than this goblin deck. Yeah, potentially, you'll have to tune in. You'll have to figure it out. They get like halfway through the episode. It's the same deck. We need you to solve a puzzle and email us.
00:56:47
Speaker
don't know what our email is. So that joke fell flat, unfortunately. Well, actually, if people do ever want to email the show, it isn't our outro, but it is a goblin lore podcast at gmail.com. I think we say to email us your thoughts, hopes and dreams or questions. Yeah, yeah, those are good. All those sound good to me.
00:57:10
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And that's our show for today. You can find the host on Twitter. HotzQ can be found at HotzQ. And Alex Newman can be found at Mel.com. Send any questions, comments, thoughts, hopes, and dreams to at goblinmoorpod on Twitter or email us at goblinmoorpodcast at email.com.
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If you want to support your friendly neighborhood gospel, the cast can be found at patreon.com. Opening and closing music by Vindergotten, who can be found on twitter at Vindergotten, or online at vindergotten.bandcamp.com. Logo art by Steven Raffaeo, who can be found on twitter at steve raffle.
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Goblin lore is proud to be presented by hipsters of the coast as part of their growing vorthos content as well as magic content of all kinds. Check them out on twitter at hipsters MTG or online at hipstersofthecoast.com. Thank you all for listening and remember goblins like snowflakes are only dangerous in numbers.