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Episode 263: A Melthos Look at Edge of Eternities
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Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome back to another episode of the Goblin Lore Podcast! Today Alex and Taya dig into the flavor and the Mechanics for Edge of Eternities!
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Introduction to the Goblin Lore Podcast
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Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome to another episode of the Goblin Lore Podcast.
Transition to 'Edge of Eternities' Card Discussion
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If you've been following us, so our last number of episodes, ah we are still talking about Edge of Eternities, even though it's been out for two weeks and is old news by this point.
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Yeah, I mean, Avatar, we have to talk about Avatar, don't we? has to be Avatar. We can only talk about Avatar. That's all we can talk about. Despite the fact that Avatar is not even the next set coming out, but... On the plus side, or maybe not the plus side, like it's fun talking about the story, but on the changing things up side, we are not talking story-ish.
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We are talking cards today. Um, cause we want to, we want to go through and and kind of talk about the cards on the set of, of Edge and of Eternity and, and also do for us. I like to think of as like a Melthouse set review, though we don't go through the entire set or try to go that deep, but, um,
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To explain, maybe if you're not as familiar with the term, I use the term Melfos a
Alex's Anime Convention Experience
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lot. and so if it Why don't I do introductions so that we can explain more about this episode. Get on the rails before we get off the rails. I'm Alex, phoned. um See, I almost broke the habit, but now I got back into it.
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ah in In the Gotham Lord Discord on the internet and nowhere else currently. And life is ah a little bit brighter for it. My pronouns are he, him. And our our opening question, seeing as I just came back from an anime convention, which was a lot of fun.
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And it's a big topic that we talk about whenever Hobbs is gone, which is also a thing. Was it was an anime show that you're watching or something you're kind of excited and and I've got two I want to talk about. So i was at this con.
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um One of these is a show that a friend told me about a couple of years ago and i never really followed up on it because it was just on services I didn't have. And then which is called your boy Kong Ming.
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which it's on Hulu and it's on high dive, which I now and regretting signing up for, but it's a free trial and and maybe I can get out fast enough to not be charged.
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It's just got a really bad app. High dive just has a horrible app. Such an, such a bad app. It's like the worst app I have ever used before. It's, it's rough. And I had even more issues of the day, but anyway, the the show is about a so Tactician, a prominent historical figure from Chinese history from like the third century, I think, part of the the Three Kingdoms era, like dying andci and and wishing that he had been wishing that if he is reborn, he gets reborn into a more peaceful time.
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And then he shows up in Shibuya, Japan on Halloween and and ends up finding some ah so some singer who is working at a bar and kind of singing a little bit part time and really loves music, but is struggling to make a
Anime Discussions and Their Unique Premises
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career out of it. So he decides that she, he will be her tactician to get her to have a successful music career.
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And it is bizarre and fun. And, um and it's a lot of fun. so I'm enjoying that show. It has a quick 12-episode show, so i'm I'm already almost done with it because I watched four episodes at Otacon because it was just one of the shows they had showing at the cons. It was nice and easy to get in and watch it.
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The second one is also on High Dive that I'm going to try to get done before that I heard about it at an isekai panelist called From Bureaucrat to Villainous, Dad's Been Reincarnated. That show is so good.
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so Okay, so you've seen it. Yeah, it was it was a last-season show. It is fantastic. Okay, cool. that it It sounded really good. It was talked about very highly.
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it is just a goofy twist on Isekai, and I love with it. Yeah, it's really goofy, especially on the the romance, but high society animes. It is a huge twist on that. it is...
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Yeah, and it sounded like there's even some, like, so this is like dad gets stuck in his daughter's game, but then it sounds like there's some stuff, like, from the family's point of view outside of the game. Yep, there, yeah.
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Yeah. The daughter's trying to like tell the mom what happened. And then she's just like, well, I'm an otaku. I understand. Like the whole family is just like on board right away. It's that just sounds incredible. And like of all the like stuck in a game things, I'm not sure I've ever heard seen one that has like a so not even a significant, but like like important scenes outside of it.
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it either outside either doesn't exist or they sort of hand wave it away, like sort of online is like it exists. But well if you take the helmets off, they die. So nobody does anything until the game resolves itself. And so this sounds like a lot of fun And I'm glad high recommendation from you that I'm i'm definitely going to try to squeeze both of these in before I am charged.
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It is. It is definitely worth it. That was a highlight of last season. It's fantastic show. Cool. All right. Well, yeah. ah I'm Taya. Taya transcends on blue sky, or you can find me on the discord.
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a Pronouns are she, her, are they, them. And I've been but watching it, know, new anime season started a couple of weeks ago.
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ah and I, there, there's quite a few shows that I really, um, uh, me. I did the living cat is just kind of hilarious and dumb. Uh, that That sounds both.
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All right, just from the title, what do you think it's about? Knee-Eye to the Living Cat. um I'm going to guess it is a more lighthearted, comedic version of Pet Sematary.
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Not quite. Basically, cats suddenly start transmitting a virus when they touch you that turns you into a cat as well, so the cats become like a zombie apocalypse.
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Oh my god, okay. okay it so And people have to like resist petting the cats and playing with the cats.
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Okay. That's, that's fun. It's, it's really amusing. um But the other one I'm going to talk about, and this is just because it had a magic parody in it, which was really funny, is their season two of Panty and Stalking with Garter Belt. This show is originally from 2010. It is an old show. It's really crude. There are some very problematic episodes in the original run, but it still was pretty funny. Yeah.
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I would just skip episodes that you don't but don't find a agreeing, but it's basically about a pair of fallen angels who hunt ghosts on Earth to try and earn their way back into heaven, except one of them is too much of a slut to actually do her job, and the other one is too interested in sweets because they're better on Earth than they are...
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on heaven. So they're both really bad at their job. But apparently the studio that originally created it had lost the rights to the show, to the producing studio. And that studio went out of business a few years ago. So the rights were kind of ah in a weird space. And the original studio finally got the rights back. So 15 years later, they they released a sequel. It's on Amazon Prime.
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And the second episode had an absolutely hilarious Magic the Gathering parody in it. but
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And yeah, it was it was like Magic the Uncling or something like that. Okay. That's fun. and ah Okay, maybe Wright's thing. I was just thinking like with a gap that long, it's like sometimes anime is...
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you just get a You just get a new season, and at least for me, not plugged into it quite as much as I am to some of my other hobbies. It just feels like out of out of nowhere, there's just a new season of a show, which kind of like as a semi-casual anime fan. And I like the way they handled it, because the first season ended on ah on a cliffhanger, and they started the second season...
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starts with like one of the, one of the main characters is sitting on the ground crying and he's like, it feels like, it feels like it's been 15 years. And the other like, it's only been five minutes. Get your crap together.
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Nice. That's, that's, that's a really good, I love, i love having like, it's a very, very specific niche thing, but I love those sort of like canceled jokes.
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Like, well, all of its issues aside when family guy came back and they had the bit where it was like, Oh no. yeah Like they, ah again, they, they had a bit like that too, or somebody asked like, Oh, you know, is there any way, you know, Oh no, we've been canceled. Is there any way we could, that we could come back on the air? And then Peter Griffin's like, well, maybe if, and then he lists, you know, 30 shows or something that had all been canceled in between. He's like, maybe if all those shows are canceled, we can come back.
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And then that's how they open the show. Yeah.
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but yeah Yeah, there's a lot of good anime this season. No bad girls is another really funny one. That one is about a high school girl who has a crush on the school disciplinarian who is like the straight laced girl that does everything right.
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So she tries to be a bad girl to get the disciplinarian's attention, but she is so bad at being bad.
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Okay, that sounds really good.
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Yeah, i've I've got a few. Like another one I heard about there. It's called The Way the House Husband. Oh, yeah, that's an older one, but yeah it's really good. yeah i i got I got to see that that the setup for that, they showed, um I went to a panel about the Yakuza, and they're like, you know, fact of fiction. They kind of talked about the real organization and some of their history and things, but mentioned like that show. And they wanted to talk about some other media things. Of course, they talked about the games a little bit, which the Yakuza series slash Like a Dragon series is great.
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when I've been into lately and trying to catch up and they keep coming out with games, but they also mentioned that anime with the this, this idea of like a guy who used to be Yakuza person, fairly highly ranked, I think. And then like left to just become a house husband.
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Like his wife is the one who makes all the money. And it's just him taking on the challenges of housework and making food and things. And yeah, There was a fun little, I think there was a promo that they showed us where he's just like making breakfast for his wife. Very funny show there. They're short. If I remember correctly, that one's like one of the ones that has like short seven minute mini episodes inside each episode.
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Panty and stalking is the same way. Actually, they have two or three episodes in each episode ah that are just short self-contained stories. Okay. Yeah, the the other, like i talking about shows that just kind of randomly get new seasons, I still have from last season, there is the, the new episode. So the new episode, new season of I've been killing slimes for 300 years and accidentally maxed. That was good too. Yeah, that was good. I got to finish that. And I just noticed while I was making a list of anime that I need to watch a reborn as a vending machine as a new season. Yep.
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It is back this season. It is just as ridiculous as it was two years ago when it came out. Yep. So I've, I've got a bunch of stuff. have Have you ever watched the show no longer allowed in another world?
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Yes. That was a weird show. Okay. That's another one they mentioned at the isekai panel a lot. Yeah. That one. Yeah, that was, that was a, it was definitely a unique take on the concept.
Return to 'Edge of Eternity' Card Discussion
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All right. ah let's Let's talk some cards. Yeah. so So as I started to talk about it and then realized we hadn't even introduced ourselves at the beginning. So Malthos is a term I use a lot.
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good It goes back to Wizards sort of came up with some different psychographics to kind of describe how different people enjoy the game. and And some of those are kind of in that conversation. They're technically a little different.
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But in that conversation are concepts of Vorthos and Melz. um And these are aesthetics that people like. So Vorthos is story stuff. Flavor text, books, like a lot of the stuff that we talk about here is is very Forthos and the stories and all of that.
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But also, especially Taya and I are also high on the Mel side as well, too, where there's like appreciation for the mechanics or really like how the mechanics function together.
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Or in the case of like a Melthos thing, how the mechanics tell the story, how the story and the mechanics sort of interact. Yeah. And so when we do set reviews, we don't like, all right, we think this is going to be, you know, the best card in X format or whatever, because that's not really what we talk about.
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But it's it's more things like this card has really cool flavor or this card maybe doesn't have great flavor. I haveve i have a flavor miss or two on my list here.
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And so that's kind of what we're that's what we're going to be talking about here for for Edge of Eternity. And it's a weird one. Because of the the sci-fi thing threw me off a little more than I was expecting, I think.
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Well, was flipping through the set. After four weeks of going through the story and all of that, I thought I had a good ah good handle on this. And then trying to like feel out what's a good Malthus thing.
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The sci-fi was throwing me off a little bit. I think, unless you have have a burning thing place to start, Taya, I think I have a good spot to kind of start the conversation.
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Yeah, go for it. I kind of want to talk about Tezzeret a little bit. All right. So I think, and i don't I don't know that I have any specific strong opinions, but just thinking about Planeswalkers and this idea of when we print new when they print new cards and the character comes back and the color identity changes.
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It's a concept you and I had an episode about a couple years ago. think we mostly focused on Legends and not Planeswalkers as much. But just this... I'm trying trying i trying to wrap my head around like, what's the significance of Tezzeret as a colorless commander, as a colorless character.
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I think he's the first who moved to colorless because it's been Ugin and Karn, right? Those are our only colorless. Those are the other. Yeah. Okay. And like Karn is more mechanical potentially than even flavor because he's a golem.
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Golems are kind of colorless by by default. Yeah. And again, it's part of the thing with the spirit dragon, but like, just because of like the color, how the color pie is kind of broken out and it colorless is just a weird spot in it. I'm trying to just wrap my head around and maybe there is, frankly, maybe there isn't a specific story reason for him to be colorless.
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And it was more a mechanical thing, which, is also a weird thing. Sometimes he is made of dark steel now and dark steel is colorless. True. Dark steel is colorless. He's very, he's always been artifact centric, but he's very artifacty in this, this thing.
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And maybe, maybe there's something there with he, he's replaced whatever was the left of his body. He is mostly artifice now in a way. and Okay. That's, that's interesting. It's just,
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don't that this morning, walking to the bus. which just like What is that? Like, what does it even mean that he's colorless now? Like what? What impact? Because he's always been blue, black, right? Has he ever been anything but blue, black?
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ah Mono blue. Oh, that's right. That's right. One of his first ones was mono blue. Yeah, I thought it was because of his Darksteel body that he's just basically ah full cyborg now.
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He's had a number of mono-blue ones. Okay. Yeah, that like that makes sense. The full cyborg thing. Yeah, because most even most of these planes... Just looking briefly at the art, most of these past planeswalkers, too, you could tell he was still mostly Flash.
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Okay. Okay, that's cool. So just... an interesting place to an interesting conversation to have. Maybe. Yeah. They, they made me like him in this story, which I never thought was possible. Yeah. Then there's that too.
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It's like actually made me kind of like him. Cause he, he's like stepping away from his own, and to to his To an extent, his own megalomania, just a little bit.
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He's just like, you know what? you know All the ambition, all the things I was doing, it just landed me on puppet strings for all of these these different forces. Screw it. i'm just I'm going to try to do whatever I can to just resist forces stronger than me.
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And that's kind of his his how he operates now. He basically is like, I'll just do whatever I want and I will not serve anybody.
Card Analysis: 'Codebreaker Hound' and 'Depressurize'
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Well, I'm going to talk about, first one of the first ones want to talk about is Codebreaker Hound. Of course, I'd start with an uncommon. It's just this little 2-1 for 2-0 blue that when it enters, you can look at the top two your library, put one in your hand, one in your graveyard. little bit of card selection. it has warp on it.
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But the thing is, in the flavor text is even across the edge, a dog is still a dog. Uh, and this little weird, what is that? Like 10 legged dog creature has torn apart this robot. But what got me when I first saw this art is that robot looks exactly like the guide light robots from aether drift. So is like this little puppy just tore apart a sentient robot. And it sounds like they might be from the edge then is where those, guide light robots initiative, but it looks exactly the same as one of the guide light robots.
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Uh, Yeah, I missed that. Okay. This cute little puppy probably just committed robot homicide. Yeah.
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Yeah, and then we made a fun little joke about it in the flavor text. Yeah. so Yeah. but you You say something about uncommons. I think most of my list is common and uncommon because that's where some of the fun stuff is.
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Yeah, I like... ah Let's talk about depressurize. Ooh, no. One. Again, here's a common. one One in black, instant Tiger creature gets minus three, minus zero until end of turn.
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Then if that creature's power is zero or less, destroy it. and that is the The flavor text. The Sunstar faith teaches of perfect void, of emptying oneself that the light may fill the hollow, but in the void of death its teachings bring a little comfort.
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I don't know. I just think, again, from a flavor standpoint, the flavor of this mechanically is really cool. um The name is wonderful. Like one of the things, had an episode about this number of years ago now, um about names. And one of the things with names is just the way this game works. Like you can never names The same name for two cards, like because of how reprints and all this stuff, the rules, the underlying rules of the game.
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If a card has a specific name in English, every card with that name is that card they can't have is the same card. So A, finding a one word name is really hard because so many got used early on.
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So that's kind of cool. But also B, it means that when we get to sets that have very, very unique flavor, sometimes they can use these terms that don't fit anywhere else. Depressurize doesn't work anywhere else in Magic.
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It doesn't fit into the normal universe. But when we're in a space set, It's a great name for a kill spell. It sure is. And the art is just fantastic.
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The art is great. and But I love this mechanic too because it like, excuse me, it decreases a creature's power and then if the creature does not have enough power to hold on, they get sucked into space and die. Like I love that mechanical, the the way the mechanics tell that story. I hadn't even thought of it from that point of view, but that is...
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That is 100%
Exploration of 'The End Stone' and 'Chrome Companion'
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spot on. All right. I'm actually going to talk about a mythic for once. ah The end stone, which is a seven mana artifact, legendary artifact. Whenever you play a land or cast a spell, draw card.
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When Morrow previewed that that line of text was going to be in the set, I thought for sure that was going to be on a Simic card. Yeah. Yeah. yeah But then the the next part is at the beginning of your end step, your life total becomes half your starting life total rounded up.
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So as we talked about in the story, the end stone is this magical, like self-sapient artifact that can manipulate time flow so that everything works out to its advantage.
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And i like you know no matter what you do with this card, you get card advantage out of it. So it's always generating advantage. And then it does this like time loop thing where it resets your life every turn.
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Yeah. Yeah. And at the beginning, like depending on when you play this, like it could hurt because it's dropping your life total. But then they have people have to kill you before your next end step in order to kill you for damage. Because if you're at one, then your life total goes back up.
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But then if you gain life, again, it comes down. and yeah that's it's a fun, and again, Legendary Artifact kind of fits. the does It doesn't give it sapiens necessarily in this in in mechanics, but that kind of plays to there being just this one, it's this unique thing. Yeah,
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that's a fun one. Yeah, i like the flavor text is also, the future is set, the present remains uncertain. Yeah. because it It knows where it needs to go, and it just keeps manipulating reality to get to where it wants to go.
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Yep. You know, I forgot to put this on my list, but I had it originally flagged, and I remember that because I just thought the exact same thought when I read the flavor text about it. So I think my next card is Chrome Companion.
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The other dog. Two for a two one artifact creature dog. ah When this creature becomes tapped, you gain a life. It has two and a tap, put target card from a graveyard on the bottom of its owner's library.
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But this is this is more just me wanting to verbally roll my eyes at the people who write flavor text for Wizards. Because the flavor text for this, Robodog, by the way, who has wheels on...
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ah the back Instead of a back half, they're like half motorcycle, it looks like, and and have like a mechanical eye. And then the flavor text is, Liberation Station's morale greatly improved after Rover took up residence.
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And I'm like, come on, really? i mean, it's it's on the nose, but if we're going to name they're going to name the RoboDog who has wheels Rover. And then I wonder if that had anything to do with the Mars Rover, which...
00:24:29
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was probably not, but that, that was one of my very weirdly, very specific, narrow memes that I just always was entertained by when people, people had a very emotional connection to the Mars Rover that was supposed to have been on what, like a six month mission or something.
00:24:48
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And it was active for five years or something like that. A longer than that. It was like 14 years, 14 years. Yeah. Just some bananas amount of time. And then, it's last transmission with something like batteries empty, it's getting cold or something. And it's, it's just like the personification of that thing. Like remember XKCD or something likes to do a lot. They do a lot of like math and science comics.
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And they did one where it was like population. the They had all the planets in the solar system sized by population. And then of course earth was really big. And then there was an asterisk. It was like, even giving Mars an honorary population of one due to the Mars Rover.
00:25:28
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it still isn't big enough to show up in the picture or something like that.
Reprints and Themes in 'Edge of Eternity'
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Sorry, that was a really long tangent.
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So I'm going to go with another uncommon for my next one, which is a null, which is one of the few reprints in the set. I think this is the first time it's been printed since Theros block, but it's it's just a single blue instant counter target artifact or enchantment spell.
00:25:54
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There's a lot of artifacts in this set. I don't know if that makes it playable in limited or not. I have no idea. I don't play limited anymore, but Yeah, I just, so what I want to bring this up though is is the art and the flavor text on this card are great. And it shows this Drixt just unraveling monoist ship and kind of just erasing it from existence.
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And the flavor text is your ship and crew have been contaminated by the Great Destroyers. We cannot risk their spread. Prepare for unraveling. And, you know, that's referring to the Eldrazi, where the ancient race the Drix are fighting.
00:26:40
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And I just, I love this. I love the art on this card. i love the flavor text. It does exactly what the yeah the card ability does.
00:26:51
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Yeah, I mean, and and again, talking about those the cool names and things that fit, like Anul certainly fits in this set. Yeah. You're saying there's not a lot of reprints because most of Magic is fantasy. Yeah, there's a handful, but there's not a lot. And most of the reprints are the Shocklands, which don't even fit.
00:27:12
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They don't fit anyways, really. I mean, they're just kind of generic. Yeah, they're they're kind of generic and you can hand wave, well, space and different planets. And sure, they will have the same sort of thing, different geography things.
00:27:27
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I see like Banishing Light, I think is the only other reprint that I had seen. I'm sure there's ah more that I probably missed. But yeah, I hadn't really put that together that there wasn't a lot of reprints in here, but you're right.
00:27:39
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and it And it makes sense because they're just... so much of magic is very fantasy themed. Even the things that are, I mean, outside of sets, like foundations, they do so few reprints nowadays anyways.
00:27:52
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I mean, other than like the common, meant the common like mana fixing lands that get played, you know, repeat reprinted a lot for limited sets, you know, regular cards don't get reprinted a whole lot anymore.
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Yeah. And, and a little bit like the shocks, I think the shocks are not quite as generic, but those, those lands that they, the the common lands that are specifically have generalized names to make them a fit on just about any world.
00:28:22
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Yeah, I'll always be upset at them for making the Triums world-specific. The Ikoria ones were bad enough, but those names are at least fantasy. The the other half of the set from Streets of New Capenna are just... You can't reprint those in any set that cares about names at all.
Thematic Card Discussions: 'Terminal Velocity' and 'Emergency Eject'
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Yeah, and and any yeah any standard. It's it's just it's nonsense. Yeah.
00:28:52
Speaker
Yeah, it's like, ooh, this is Rafine's Tower. It could have given like any generic name possible. but Yeah, yeah even even something more fairly specific but more generic, something about like criminals or Den of Thieves. or I mean, I don't know. There's things that could get reused but still be applicable to the the people of Capenna or the the different factions of New Capenna.
00:29:19
Speaker
Yeah. Let me close that tab. ah about Terminal Velocity. So this is this is another on on the my list of good names. Like, real good names.
00:29:32
Speaker
I could have shown up in Aether Drift too. Yes, that that's one that there's is' a couple of places, but most magic, it wouldn't be a you you wouldn't yeah fit. But then also, okay, so it's four red red for sorcery.
00:29:46
Speaker
but You may put an artifact or creature card from your hand onto the battlefield. It gains haste. And when this permanent leaves the battlefield, it deals damage equal to its mana value to each creature. And at the beginning of your end step, sacrifice this permanent.
00:30:01
Speaker
uh, flavor text, a victory was the best retirement gift. The Admiral could have asked for, but, uh, basically does flavorfully hit the idea of an artifact, probably a ship, potentially other things as well, or a creature moving so quickly that it gains haste,
00:30:21
Speaker
die crashes and dies at the end of the turn. And then when it blows things up in the process, yes, exactly. And then blows things up. And so that when it dies, it also does damage to each creature.
00:30:33
Speaker
so yeah, love, love the, the flavor of that card. Yeah, that is, that is a really cool one. ah The next one I'm going to talk about is emergency eject, which is another name you couldn't have in any other set, but that, that wasn't why I put it on the list.
00:30:50
Speaker
I put it on here because it is your standard, you know, just your trope of something being destroyed and having some escape craft get away from it. It's one of those really common white destroy, non-land permanent, it's controller gets something. In this case, it's a lander token because you're going to land your ah rescue craft somewhere.
00:31:11
Speaker
Uh, and the flavor text is, this is your captain speaking. Our eternity drive is ruptured. Light be with you all. so Yeah, that's, that's good.
00:31:23
Speaker
So yeah. And fits right in now it's two and white, so it's not nearly as powerful, but yeah, that is, is on the the path to exile sort of. well I was comparing it more with things like generous gift.
00:31:34
Speaker
Uh, yeah, that's, that's fair. Generous gift. White does a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I suppose as path is an exile literally in the name as opposed to destroy. But I was thinking of it because of the land it's giving you a land. This gives you an artifact that sacks to find a land, but yeah, that's, that's fun.
00:31:56
Speaker
Let's go with one that my response was just, huh? And that's, that's a vote out. Oh go God. That's so good. Yeah. Yeah, we have our Among Us reference here. In other words, i yeah I was playing near the start of the pandemic. I was playing a bunch of Among Us with some Wizards people. So I was not the least bit surprised to see this in this clip.
00:32:24
Speaker
Nice. yeah So it's three and of black for sorcery with Convoke, ah which allows you to tap creatures to ah reduce the mana cost. And then it has destroy target creature.
00:32:36
Speaker
And the flavor text democracy is not always just.
00:32:41
Speaker
Yeah, it it is. When I saw that, i that really put a smile on my day for the or my face for the entire day. i just thought that was yeah perfect. in An alien that is ah both definitely referential and legally distinct from the crew people of the Among Us game.
Critiques on Flavor Inconsistencies
00:33:01
Speaker
All right. ah The one I'm going to talk about, which I think is... it's a bit of a flavor miss for the character. And that's Tanook's steadfast second. now I'm not going to say, love this card. I love what it does, but nothing about these abilities say Tanook to me.
00:33:21
Speaker
So the first one is other creatures you control have haste. That's cool. And the second one is artifact cards and red creature cards in your hand have warp two and a red. know, he's not the kind of person to call and help or anything like that. And he's not, he's not a builder.
00:33:38
Speaker
really yeah see and I see that as like a pilot who's really fast but that doesn't even really fit his story in the yeah they these character in the story Yeah, they don't fly the fastest ship.
00:33:53
Speaker
No, because that's, you know, giving your other creatures haste and then warp where you can cast them from your hand and then exile them and cast them later is kind of like super haste a little bit.
00:34:05
Speaker
And so it's like that that's that was the flavor I read, which would be really cool for a mono red Kavu pilot, but doesn't really fit Tanook.
00:34:14
Speaker
And it also doesn't have anything to do with him being the second. Yeah, yeah that's that's true too. So I just i love Tanook. I love the character. I love this card. I love what it does. I ordered one of the yeah the Borderless ones for my Doretti deck, but i just i don't think I think they got the flavor totally wrong for Tanook on this.
00:34:37
Speaker
Yeah. i think This other one is a Landfall card, which really didn't make any sense either. Yeah, that's kind of just like filling the slot, the green-red slot for this set is Landfall.
00:34:50
Speaker
Yeah, suppose that they can, we could segue that into one of mine. um Another character that I think had um had some had some flavor fail. ah especially Or flavor fail, maybe not, but I think there's ah there's there's definitely a the the flavor text as a mismatch with the story, and that's Servandum the Lucient.
00:35:13
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I could go down the whole thing about the um Sunstar Company versus the Monoith and how they're depicted in the cards versus the story. Yes, and this this plays into that a little bit. So this this sort of so there's two Surveillance. Most of the main characters, there's it looks like there's two of them. Yeah, all of the all of the main story characters got two versions of them.
00:35:37
Speaker
Yeah, which is kind of fun because you know we're not seeing them again anytime soon. and I mean, and honestly, I kind of like the card, two white, black, black for a human night with death touch and lifelink for four. And whenever servantum enters or attacks other creatures you control, get plus one, plus so and gain death touch.
00:35:55
Speaker
But like the flavor text, a new dawn burning away the darkness like that does that just does not fit at all. Like what he's the one who fired on, you know, killed 4000 civilians or whatever the number was for six. I want to say.
00:36:11
Speaker
just random innocent people because of whatever was going on. And then like, again, that ties into like you're saying, the whole flavor representing how they've just represented the two religious factions is like mostly mono black and mono white.
00:36:27
Speaker
And here's the shining nights. And here's the, um the monoists the evil evil gravity wizards yeah and it's like that does not fit really at all how no yeah servanum notably is the only um black white sun star character which feels wrong Yeah, well, it does feel wrong in general, but it it does feel more right for him because that black-white will kill anybody that's not with us.
00:37:06
Speaker
Yes, and that that is, black-white is one of their sort of strong elements of that color combination, is the strong community but only for our community and don't care about outsiders at all.
00:37:21
Speaker
That's why that's like the the Church of Orzhov is kind of archetypical in that way. They're very, you know, all the community of the church, let's make that all work. And then everybody who's in the outs, it does doesn't matter.
00:37:36
Speaker
Well, even then, it's it's now it's it's not only a it's it's it's the it's not only a church in this case, it's also an oligarchy. So it's it's going to make sure that, yeah, they might work for members of the Orzhov, but it's going to work much better for something. Yeah, it's it's it's much more, yeah.
00:37:55
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. And and this, the the way the, um ah what were but were the knights called again? What was their? Sunstar. Thank you.
00:38:06
Speaker
Sunstar Free Company. Yeah, they they are mono white in the way that Kondo from Kamigawa, or was it Hondo?
00:38:20
Speaker
It was mono white. where he was, yeah, Konda did a lot of harm trying to protect his people and ultimately didn't even really help them out because of the amount of damage that he caused. It sparked off an entire war with the spirit realm.
00:38:39
Speaker
It's not a good way to keep your kingdom safe in the long run. And the knights are, the free company is similar and the, we,
00:38:50
Speaker
Try to the long term preservation of stars is more important than the people who might um like live there currently. Yeah. Yes.
00:39:01
Speaker
And that's not really presented in the cards. very No. And in the cards, they are all presented as like heroic night figures are always in. Yeah. Literally, you know, printed a card called honor.
00:39:16
Speaker
that I'm shocked wasn't actually printed before. That's a brand new card too. And they've listed as a story spotlight for some reason, even though that isn't really a... Something that isn't even in the story.
00:39:29
Speaker
What it? The end stone itself is not a story spotlight. And it's the point of the story. In a sense, it's the main character of the story.
00:39:43
Speaker
Oh, that's... Bananas. I forgot whose turn it is. This set had some story card continuity issues.
00:39:54
Speaker
Yeah. like You want another fail flavor fail from me? Sure, before we move on. on that yeah ah So this is another white card. This is Beyond the Quiet.
00:40:06
Speaker
Oh, the board white. The alternate version has one of my like favorite art since Glimpse the Impossible. oh Ooh, yeah, that's gorgeous. I hadn't seen that. Okay, so Edge of Eternity here, Beyond the Quiet, is three white white for sorcery, exile all creatures and spacecraft.
00:40:25
Speaker
That part, like the mechanical, fits. That's perfectly white. they get it They get one of these every set. And this one, exiling spacecraft, perfect. It fits in this set. That's a new mechanic in this set.
00:40:37
Speaker
Great. But both the art and the flavor text, the flavor text is, as the super voids photon collar washed over them, time stopped. Their souls would experience the grandeur of their demise for eternity.
00:40:50
Speaker
A board wipe where you are being pulled into a black hole is not out of flavor for this set, but it is out of flavor for white. The black hole, the super void in this set is the like remit of the mono black faction.
00:41:07
Speaker
That is not. And, and this is a place where, the free company being kind of on i there is a mono black legendary artifact.
00:41:17
Speaker
The black hole itself is a mod is, is a, yeah, a model black legendary artifact. So it's like, this is, this is a place where they could have just had something about fire, all the guns or something.
00:41:29
Speaker
And, or had something about Vondam, like killing a bunch of innocent people. and easily still hit that board white flavor and had it been in flavor for this color and this faction.
00:41:41
Speaker
But instead, it's sort of just a generic white. I don't know. The flavor of that doesn't quite fit. for Yeah.
Impact of 'Thrumming Hive Pool' and 'Eternity Elevator'
00:41:48
Speaker
Go with the alt art and the alt flavor text. Oh, yeah. didn't read the flavor text for that. But the alt art is gorgeous.
00:41:55
Speaker
Yeah, see, there we go. That that that fits a little better. Yeah, the other flavor text is, at the end of all things, will you find redemption or rebirth? ah Neither, since you just got exiled. But...
00:42:09
Speaker
Yeah, that art is spectacular. Alright, I've got one last card I want to talk about tonight, and...
00:42:22
Speaker
They teased there would be a Sliver card in this set, which got me all excited because I've been a Sliver i've been a sliver fan since Tempest. i That was the deck that I played in Tempest. I love my Slivers casual sixty or casual multiplayer the first commander deck I built was sliver overlord.
00:42:42
Speaker
i do love me some slivers. And then when they, when they said they were going to print a new sliver card, i was like, Oh, cool. and then we saw in the story that slivers were like these mythical scary creatures that, you know, you'd hear from, you'd hear from, uh, stories from your parents or something, you know?
00:43:02
Speaker
Uh, and then, then we got to see what the card is, which is thrumming hive pool. but which shows this half-circle thing inside of a world with a bunch of like ah i' kind of like almost like cement or something freezing and then a sliver that's popping out of it.
00:43:30
Speaker
But the the this sort of this is the only sliver card in the deck, too. So we we got the mention. We know that they exist in the edge. They look like proper slivers, not those monstrosities we got in Magic 2014.
00:43:47
Speaker
So hopefully that means if we ever see alip yeah a sliver theme back, they will look like proper slivers again. Yeah. there There was also, can't remember what story, and not to to go too far from from this card too, but there was a mention in, not the story, obviously, like you said, it brought up in the story a little bit too, but there was one of the articles that was about the stories.
00:44:13
Speaker
There was actually a little bit more information about Slivers in the Edge. Yeah, yeah. But this just, it' so it's a six mana artifact that has affinity for slivers.
00:44:25
Speaker
So, you know, a lot of times we'll be playing this for like zero or one mana. gives ah Slivers you control double strike and haste. And at the beginning, your upkeep creates two sliver creature tokens. It makes two. For some reason, i was reading that as one.
00:44:40
Speaker
so yeah, you get two one you get two ah one ones with double strike and haste every turn.
00:44:48
Speaker
I've actually, i like I said, I don't play limited myself, but I heard from a friend that this card's a beater and limited in this format. Even though you're always to be casting it for six.
00:44:59
Speaker
Yeah, you're casting it for six, but that's two, like you say, haste double strikes coming out every turn. You know, they're one ones, but double strike literally lets them punch punch up Punch up and oh man.
00:45:17
Speaker
But I was very happy to get me some new Sliver cards. I haven't updated my Sliver deck in a long time because people just don't like playing against Slivers. But, you know, I want to update it and get this in there. And then maybe I'll play it once before I put it away again. I'll talk very very quickly about one last card. This doesn't fit the actual flavor of this set.
00:45:46
Speaker
But the Eternity elevator, I think, is just super cool. Because it's just the the a space elevator is sort of a sci-fi-ish theoretical thing that, you know, people could build to, like, bring resources into low orbit to build ships or to load up ships is kind of the idea.
00:46:08
Speaker
And all sorts of like, how do we actually make this thing stand that tall? But that's kind of what this is evocative of. It definitely looks like a space elevator going down to a planet.
00:46:19
Speaker
Can't quite. i don't think that is what it is. It's a spacecraft, but like the the type. But it's it's a cool evocative picture of sci fi stuff. And this is a set where they get to do some of those things.
00:46:32
Speaker
Yeah, it's a five mana Thran Dynamo that has station for 20. But if you somehow get this station and people don't just write it all the way, it lets you add X-Men of any one color where X is a number of charge counters on the Eternity Elevator.
00:46:48
Speaker
Which is at least 20 at that point inside. So yes, tapping it for 20 would help me cast Kozilek. um At least once or twice. And because obviously because it can't go anywhere and probably has limited self-defense capability, this is a spacecraft with no power or toughness.
00:47:06
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:47:09
Speaker
You're right. So maybe it is just an actual space elevator then connecting two things. And that would make sense like the resource which just makes a bunch of mana. You're bringing mana from the planet up to space.
00:47:21
Speaker
Yep.
Conclusion and Social Media Handles
00:47:22
Speaker
But yeah, I think this might be the only station card that, um besides the planets, but the the only one that, the only artifact, it's it's just not a creature at all.
00:47:32
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Well, that's fun. Okay, cool. Well, that's, that's this set. I have no idea who we're going to do next.
00:47:43
Speaker
We've got two licensed sets coming out for the rest of the year, so we don't have any more story. Yeah, nothing till Morwen. Yeah, so we'll ah we'll see where we go.
00:47:56
Speaker
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00:48:11
Speaker
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