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Episode 268: Who Put the Magical Heroes in Super Magical Situations?
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Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome back to another episode of the Goblin Lore Podcast! September is Suicide Prevention Awareness Month. Hobbes has been continuing to train for the Twin Cities Marathon (running to raise money for the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention) and Goblin Lore in conjunction with Drew from Show and Tell will put putting out stories of hope. You can find the ongoing playlist here.
Taya, Alex and returning guest Reinhardt discuss the recent spider-man set briefly, how Magic’s story might have been influenced by super hero comics, and speculate some on the future of Magic’s story.
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Opening and closing music by Wintergatan (@wintergatan). Logo art by Steven Raffael (@SteveRaffle)
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Transcript
Introduction & Guest Intros
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Hello everybody, Hobbs Q here, just doing a quick intro before we get into Alex, Taya, and returning guest Reinhardt.
Suicide Prevention & Fundraising
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ah This episode's coming out October 1st.
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Suicide Prevention Awareness Month has ended officially, that means. My marathon is on Sunday, so there are still videos being put out, including one from Travis M., big supporter of this cast and of just, I mean, Mental Health and Magic the Gathering.
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So I wanted people to get a chance to check that out. um You can still donate through Saturday through to the marathon to my efforts to raise money for the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention.
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I just wanted to say hi. I'm hoping to be back with you all soon for full episodes and to pass you over to Taya, Riot, Hart and Alex. Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome to ah another episode of the Goblin Lore podcast.
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Excited tonight. We are we are bringing a topical, I guess, episode topic that is not necessarily specifically about the the recent set, but... um We have a returning guest, which is exciting. um And ah two hosts. ah Hobbs is still taking a break. Why don't introduce myself? We can do some quick introductions and then do opening question and get into our topic.
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So I'm Alex Newman. I'm found on the Discord. We have a Goblin Lord Discord that is free to join for folks who would like to join that. I love Twitter stories. a while ago now and um it feels nice to just not have that going on in my life.
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ah My pronouns are he him and Taya why don't you introduce yourself and we can hand it to the guests. Sure hi I'm Taya, Taya Transcendental Blue Sky, pronouns are she her are they them and we have a guest with us tonight as well.
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Hello. Yeah. ah My name is Reinhard Suarez, and i'm a writer, among other things. um In the magic world, i have contributed stories to a few sets.
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Strixhaven, um one of the Innistrad sets, I think it was um Crimson Vow, ah The Brothers War, and Phyrexia will be one. So it's been a little bit, but I still...
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like to keep track of the story.
Superheroes in Magic: The Gathering
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And I'm just really happy to be here. it's it's I love this podcast and I love chatting with everybody. Yeah, appreciate that. I love having conversations with you when we can get you on. And it's it's been a little while.
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Yeah. yeah Glad to have you back. I look back and this, this wasn't our most recent episode, but around that time, ah one of the most recent episodes you were on was when you walked me through the story because I avoided the Phyrexian story for a stretch because it had some some triggering elements that I just weren't good for me. So I avoided it for like a year, year and a half. And then you walked me through, kind of caught me up and everything, which was, which was a fun episode to do. Yeah.
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So. All right. Well, the the topic we're doing tonight um is talking about superheroes. And Reinhardt, you brought this to the show. Do you want to introduce the topic idea for the pitch? Yeah, i ah I saw that, ah you know, we're we're soon to have or are do we officially have it now? And is it like live?
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think it's I know the pre-release was has happened. OK, i these just one Friday was the Friday was the full release. Perfect. Okay, so the full release of Spider-Man. and so Spider-Man is officially in Standard and in Magic Dex, going back to vintage if he can get there.
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um But I thought it would be interesting to think about both kind of the superhero archetypes, superhero storytelling, And also, ah you know, and we'll probably get into this ah sooner rather than later, like what types of superheroes um might be fun to think about in the magic multiverse, but also um which of our characters kind of resembles superheroes or superhero storytelling.
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All right. Yeah. And this sounds fun. um I did. We do have an opening question and I told everyone that I would go first because I have both an answer to the question and an answer to a question that isn't the question um as as I have a want to do sometimes.
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So the opening question we thought we'd go with with this whole idea of talking about superheroes, um talking about magic and and maybe superheroes in magic. I thought it would be fun to just What's a like it a superhero that exists in another property that you think would be fun to see sort of fall into the magic universe and then have to figure out how to deal with being there.
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um And I sometimes, a lot of times, honestly, when I come up with opening questions, I usually have an answer. And this one I did not. I've been thinking about it all day. And I started flipping through a list and then it hit me.
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I think it would be really funny and also potentially really interesting to see Rocket Raccoon fall into like Kaladesh. Like, The Edge would probably not be much of a difference.
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Rocket showed up there, and there's spaceships and very similar technology to what he's dealing with anyway. But I think Rocket Raccoon in like the normal Magic Universe on one of the... Or... Avishkar.
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I'm sorry. Or one of the... I want to say there's another world that has has a lot of magic tech stuff. um What world is Jace from? Isn't that kind of magic tech?
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Vryn, thank you. So like one of those worlds I think would be interesting. Oh, probably Eveshkar would be more interesting, to be honest. ah just I think him him trying to figure out how to...
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Deal with their tech, but also just kind of some of the person, his personality meshing with some of the people we know on that world. I think. Yeah. Yeah. I think, ah you know, you could you could definitely see a scene with ah with Rocket and someone like Ganti, you know, trying to figure, you know, Rock is trying to.
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Get some cool tech out of him and Ganti's like, who is this guy? You know? Yeah. I could see that. Yeah. Just a moment of like, I have a, I have a plan. I need these ingredients, but I also need, you know, that guy's heart or something.
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Oh, and then the other question. That's right. I had a second question. um So one thing I just I wanted to shout out a a novel, of a superhero novel, because there was a it's been a little while, but for a long time for for a stretch, I was I really enjoyed reading like novels, superhero novels, as opposed to
Superhero Stories & Characters
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comic books. I've never really been that into comic books. I read some I've read a few here or there. And there's a couple smaller series that I followed for a bit. But I was really into like novels for a while. And um there there's ah there's a book called After the Golden Age by Carrie Vaughn.
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that I just I've been thinking about since I read it i don't know 10 or 15 years ago because it starts like the main character is a non-powered just normal person who happens to be the daughter of the two most powerful superheroes in the world And the scene, the first scene of the book is she was just kidnapped by some people trying to, you know, get ransom for her, except they're doing a really bad job of it.
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And she's been kidnapped so many times that it offends her how poorly this kidnapping is going. And she starts to correct their kidnapping and telling them how they should be doing this.
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And I just, that, that scene has stuck with me for a while. So I did and some other superhero stuff may show up in the story, but this I'm pretty sure it would not be necessarily be relevant. So I wanted to make sure I shouted it out.
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All right. As for me, I'm going to cheat on this question a little bit. I'm going to actually pick my Marvel TTP RPG character ice. Uh, she's a Asgardian berserker that wields a giant ax, uh, and as a total, um,
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ah Just a total slut. It's even tattooed in runic across her midriff. But I want her to go touring the plains because ah she is really cool and would basically try to get with all the female planeswalkers that were possible. And yeah, i I really enjoy, if you've never played The Marvel TTV RPG, the system is kind of awful. It's still a version one and it needs a lot of tweaking and balancing, but ah it's still been a really fun ah campaign ah that I've been playing in for ah about a year and a half now.
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So, yeah, like I wanted to cheat on that one, but I would love to i would love to bring ice into some magic story.
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And I guess, you know, I didn't quite know what my answer would be right up to right now. um I had a couple of candidates in my head, but I think I would settle on Dazzler.
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um And i'm so I'm such a fan of Dazzler since... since the 80s when I read her books.
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um But I think the idea of a plains hopping rock star would be just such a fun story to tell.
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And it's, um to my knowledge, not a story that we've seen in magic. um So i that that would be my pick. that would be you know And I'm imagining like it would be such a it would be just a ton of fun to write that story.
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So... Other than the one from the D&D set, we don't have any planeswalking bards. We need one. Dazzler! Yeah, there we go.
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no Might actually... ah Might show up next year in the Marvel set, though I can't imagine...
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that Well, they go kind deep in some of these sets, so i'm going to i'm so I'm going to stick with might show up next year in actual magic. You never know. I mean... um They go really deep. um um you know I'm a little miffed, a tiny bit miffed, a little bit, as giant as a Star Trek fan as I am, that I was not i was not reached out to. I'm just kidding. I'm not miffed.
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it They didn't even know that I know Star Trek. even though my Tesserit is very, very clearly con. ah i i just found out today that ah Kathleen and Graham from Loading Ready Run were on creative for that set, which makes me um much more interested in the set now.
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All right. Cool. So Where do we want to start with this topic? I mean, I guess where we could start is since we since we had the question of like an outside a character coming into a Magic, we could kind of look at some of our present characters and...
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um pull out aspects of them that very much are superhero-like.
The Gatewatch: Magic's Superhero Team?
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like my When I proposed this um topic, I was really thinking of the Gatewatch as a kind of proto-superhero team.
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um At least you know when we were... i guess this would be around... Really, it felt like that around Ixalan time and just before that with... um uh like the shadows over is it shadows over Innistrad and yeah yeah like they felt very much like a an X-Men type team Amonkhet came right before him like ah right before Ixalan yeah so yeah it was uh it was Innistrad then Kaladesh then um Amonkhet then ah then Ixalan
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And you, you had like the, um, each member of the team had a different power and, uh, especially, you know, like on Zendikar, they combine powers.
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So that's straight out of superhero stories. Yeah. I think that was the intent for the, the plane to watch the, uh, or gatewatch. I mean, ah I'm pretty sure that was their intent is to have it is be magic's take on a superhero team.
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The, uh, um, which I, I thought the idea worked out pretty good. People just got sick of it being in every single set. And I think that's why ah nowadays we don't see,
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um We don't even see the main story in some sets or eat or just get glimpses of it like Dusk Mourn. We had the little bit with Jace looking for Lou.
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And that was kind of just a ah side story. And then we got nothing related to the main story and Edge of Eternities. No, no, very, very specifically. They told us before and do like, it's gonna be a lot of story. It's not gonna have anything to do with the main storyline.
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Because Edge is its own little thing. And, you know, you can think about, um you I'm much more of a Marvel zombie than a DC guy.
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ah But um in Marvel, you know, there were crossovers, but largely every comic was self-contained. um From time to time, the Avengers would see the X-Men. From time to time, you know, the Fantastic Four would see...
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would see um some other team, but, those were few or far between. um and I think like you could right now almost seems like setup in, in the same way, uh, comment books are set up where you have like, um,
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A story, B story, C story, all these kind of parallel storylines that may intersect in like this grand event, um which is kind of cool to say.
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Yeah, that that's fair. because like and And again, I'll say this as someone who is mostly outside of comic books. I've read some familiarity, but it's not a major hobby of mine. But like a number of years ago around the Gatewatch era,
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um i've talked kind of talked about this like on the cast we talked about kind of how the storytelling of magic was changing where they had these different storylines and now now they're kind of trying to do this and this is even outside of the gate watch but it looked like they were kind of trying to have multiple threats multiple threads like like you mentioned like the a and the b and the c different storylines because you had like with beginning with the original zendikar There were three sets where they introduced three villains. i want to say because it was Zendikar.
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It was a Lara and it was Scars of Mirrodin. And I remember which order those were. I thought it was a Lara then. um okay Then Zennikar, then Mirrodin.
00:16:28
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Okay, thank you So with Alara first, then they introduced three major threats. And those three threats were the three threats in the story until like last year something. Right, so a very long time.
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And so now we're kind of in this refresh stage, I think, where there's this plot with Jace and they're kind of just for the most part, things are a little more isolated.
00:16:52
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And we're following Kellen for a while as well. Yeah, yeah. And so let' we'll see what they do for the large overarching things. But like the Bolas story led into a literal Avengers set that...
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You know, released in the War of the Spark that released like in the same year as Avengers Endgame within two months, I want to say, within a couple of months. It was, yeah, it was definitely the same year, right?
00:17:19
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And um which, you know, I think unfortunately lent itself to comparison. and yeah I would say unfair comparison. Unfair comparison. which is Because these sets are planned so far in advance.
00:17:32
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Oh, yeah, yeah. I think that was just a... Is it clear? like There was some inspiration, potentially some inspiration from the MCU that had been running for enough years. Or even just comics in general. Because the whole point of the the the Marvel Cinematic Universe is it was Marvel trying to do with movies what they were already doing for decades with their comic books.
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yeah And so it's very... It very easily could have been inspiration just from the original comic books as opposed to the movies. But it was just it was interesting to see those major storylines in different mediums, different you know properties entirely culminating in the same year. i want to say there was some ah there was some third one. I can't remember what that was off top of my head. But it was it was a funny, just weird coincidence of timing.
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But yeah, to to you to your point, Reinhardt, I think the Gatewatch was definitely set up to be a superhero team.
Evolution of Magic's Storytelling
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Everybody had their own oath. Everybody kind of had their part to play a little bit in in ah a given role in the different threats that they were facing.
00:18:37
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Yeah, and it was interesting to see how how and everything for me, like when you say superheroes for me, the first team that I think about is the X-Men. I was a huge X-Men fan ah a long time when I was a kid. I was a collector. Yeah.
00:18:56
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my I think my collection is still in storage somewhere ah close to my parents' house. I have like X-Men. i went My collection went from Uncanny number eight to like 300 something.
00:19:13
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ah So like I and, you know, that was when it was before the the pandemic and all the prices just went crazy. So as a kid, I was able to actually get them for relatively cheap.
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um But, you know, you you think back to the original X-Men team graduate, you know, and then cast change. Then you had the all new, all different X-Men. And then you eventually had the Australian team. And then you eventually had Blue and gold teams and and then, you know, the continued evolution of them. And we can see that, you know, with the Gatewatch, even after um I would say.
00:19:57
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Jace and ah and especially after. ah Gideon died. ah The spotlight kind of came off them and went on to a bunch of other characters, Kaya, Saheeli, and then bringing back Teferi. And they were kind of brought into the fold of the Gatewatch. They all have their oaths, or at least Teferi had his oath. Yeah.
00:20:27
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you know And that culminated into the end of Phyrexia, right? um We probably... i don't i don't know if we'll see a group calling itself the Gatewatch again.
00:20:39
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um may have run its course, but you never know. Yeah, I think at this point, we what we would be more likely to see a team formed.
00:20:50
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If they decide to form a team, they they might have a and more modern name, if that makes sense. Because it didn't the Gatewatch come from the battle in Battle for Zendikar? Yeah, the um basically when they ah after they beat the Eldrazi, they gave their oaths to defend the multiverse from other threats that regular planes-bound citizens couldn't handle.
00:21:17
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Yeah, like the name, there was a gate, something was like where that that battle kind of happened, and that's where they got the name, but I can't remember that off the top of my head, so. Oh, it was that the, ah oh, yeah, Seagate, Seagate Restoration, yes cgate yeah, Seagate. Yeah, Seagate, okay, so that was my impression of like that's where it came from, but maybe...
00:21:41
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Maybe not. Maybe I'm wrong there. But regardless, like like you said, Reinhardt, I think that probably ran its course, particularly that group. We may see some other faction, but at this point in the, you know, the the sort of new metaphysics of of the multiverse where normal folk can travel the planes too, um they just need to do it in a specific way, finding the correct paths and such.
00:22:08
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This story emphasis on planeswalkers specifically has definitely taken a back step. There are still planeswalkers with who get relevant stories. Chandra just had a set with a lot of prominence. Jace is the supposed to be the man antagonist who knows what's going on there right now.
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So I mean, they're they're still present in the story, but like a full team of planeswalkers feels like, like something we're, we're not, we're not going to see right now. med Potentially. Like we already know that Strixhaven focuses on a set of five students that arrived there via Omen Path.
00:22:46
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ah So, we know, that one's not going to planeswalker focused other than I, I'm assuming that Liliana will be involved and, Taivar was heading to Strixhaven too. And since Shonan is writing the novel for Strixhaven, I'm assuming Taivar will be involved.
00:23:05
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It seems likely. Yeah. And so we we may end up with more of a ah team, ah maybe even of non-planeswalkers focused on something. Yeah. Yeah. I think that that that was something that they brought up.
00:23:19
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When they did the whole Omen Path thing, which was now it opens possibilities more for non planes walkers to have plane hopping adventures in in a way it returns us back to the weather light um where the, you know, we followed the adventures of the weather light and I, you know,
00:23:40
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I hope that that is something that can be, you know, that we can go deeper into. Like, i I would like, I like the experiments that they've done so far with the story as far as like taking the same cast of characters or some of the, like Kellen, right? And taking the same character going from plane to plane and seeing how he adjusts, to seeing what happens.
00:24:03
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You know, I think things tend to go in cycles and that kind of storytelling is it will feel fresh and new even though you know Gerard did it 20 years ago yeah yeah Yeah, and there's there's some extent, like like you mentioned earlier, like sets take a long time. They they are planning magic sets multiple years out.
00:24:26
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um And even even if all the story and things haven't been in place at that mark, they're still sketching some things out. So there could be some, it can take a little while for things to catch up, or maybe they experiment for a little bit, move into a different direction to let that sort of happen and then see how ah people react, how they like this and that.
00:24:45
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And so that can be part of that cyclical nature as well. Yeah. It's, ah I would be surprised if they do another Gatewatch style team up. um I think that, you know, they, they ran that for, ah it was like a three year, yeah. Three year storyline from,
00:25:12
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2015 to 2018 or was it 2019? There was a three to four year storyline. ah We're wrapping up the three to four year three year storyline post Phyrexian invasion with um Reality Fracture ah next year. I'm really excited about that set. We know nothing about it so far, but that name has already got me hooked.
00:25:38
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It it brings back ah brings back thoughts of um like planar chaos and and the time stream and not time vortices
Future Magic Storylines
00:25:49
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and everything. I mean, Teferi did enough to maybe knock things apart.
00:25:56
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so yeah well and Who knows? the last The last scene we see of Jace and Tarkir could fit reality. you know Could fit a name for that set. Yeah. yeah I definitely think that was a reference to what happened to Jace. um And I'm guessing that we don't see anything of Jace and Lorwyn or Strixhaven. And then we have to wait until next fall to find out what's going on. Yeah.
00:26:27
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I could see that. that and i That's very much a ah superhero trope as well. The, um, the hero who goes a little bit too far or is too zealous with, you know, eight in in a pursuit to do noble things, um, ends up being a villain or acting in in that role. Right.
00:26:52
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Yeah. That's very much a standard trope. You have, uh, allegiances change all the time in comic books.
00:27:02
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Yeah. Yeah. And i i i could I think you're you're probably right, Taylor. We won't, at least for the foreseeable near future, have like a specific team just formed to go do things.
00:27:14
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um I think we may see t like like a more ad hoc team of characters who are established in their own places. Right, like Dustmourn. That's exactly what I was thinking of, too. Yeah, we got that team that they teamed up to go find Nashi and they had a purpose. And then, you know, that was it. The team went up their different ways.
00:27:35
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Yeah. And and i'm I'm thinking like, again, in this sort of era of them starting to have kind of gone through all of the threats they established and now we're kind of restarting that refresh.
00:27:46
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They definitely set the house up as a mounting threat. in Duskmorn. So that is another one of those where i could see that being an invasion, you know, a Phyrexian invasion style thing where we start to have a little bit of it show up, a little bit of it show up, and now it becomes the major event. a bunch of people come together, do a thing, and then we move on.
00:28:07
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And Bolas was also just released, so he'll be up to no good. ye Yeah, that was a bad idea. Yeah. Ugin is known for his bad ideas. He just likes to imprison things and it never works out.
00:28:25
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Yeah, like literally ah zero zero for infinity. Zero for three at least. Yeah. oh I mean, speaking of that, I think it's also interesting. like I've always thought As far as superhero storytelling goes, youre your stories are only as good as your villain.
00:28:49
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um Your villain really is the key to making something compelling and in ah in that kind of um superhero um dynamic. um And I think magic is shaping up to have quite a few, actually.
00:29:04
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Yeah, I mean, one of the the best villain monologues we've ever seen was Bolas and Amonkhet. He just broke the gatewatch and sent them all off. so and And he's coming back, but there are other villains too, you know? Yeah, oh there's there's definite there absolutely are others, but like, yeah, he had a line for everybody. and that Yeah, like Chandra, fire, really?
00:29:28
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I'm paraphrasing what it was, but that that is that is basically what Bolas said when he was talking to each of them. Yeah, yeah. Fire against the dragon, really?
00:29:40
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Yeah, then the way he called out Gideon, and then they kind of never, i'm still kind of upset about how his story ended based on how his story was building, but that was that was a good villain monologue there.
00:29:52
Speaker
Yeah, and I'm i'm hoping that when he comes back, he and he will inevitably show back up again, that, you know, for old time's sake, he's got some
00:30:05
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he's got some poop jokes from Test of Metal. yeah Oh, yeah. mean, he was he was very snarky in the little bit that he showed up in Dragonstorm, so he's definitely not lost his sense of humor with his other memories.
00:30:20
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But, um you know, there are also like some really low key, like awesome possibilities. um And I'm thinking of a couple. I'm thinking of ah we actually have Gayadron Dehada back in the magic universe, which is yeah amazing. Haven't found anything out about what she's up to.
00:30:40
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um but she's around. And and she was a she's a big deal. like ah For anyone who didn't read those Armada comics, like she was one of the main antagonists there, and she was very feared. A very feared planeswalker.
00:30:57
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um So that's awesome that there's someone else like that out there. ah And like whatever the heck was going on in Edge of Eternity's you know i don't know what the heck is going on there, but there are some really cool possibilities coming out of that too. yeah I mean, Slivers and Eldrazi.
00:31:17
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yeah Yeah, and Tezzeret being not the worst person. No, Tezzeret was actually really cool in that. i I hated Tezzeret until Edge of Eternities.
00:31:29
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Yeah, that could be interesting. Even if they do keep that really disconnected, that could still be an interesting like, okay, we're going to take a break from, we're going to let this percolate on the other side. let's Let's go check in on the edge again and see what's happening over here.
00:31:45
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's a cool, I really liked everything about that set. i I love the cards. i love I love, you know, when I went to, Pre-release, it was just super fun to play all these different types of cards, see all the the cool art. um I sadly did not open Tezzeret in my pool. I really wanted to.
00:32:06
Speaker
ah But other than that, everything was great. And the story I thought the story was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. i've got I've got Sammy and both Tanooks in various decks. um I do like my ah Serena crew.
00:32:23
Speaker
Serena crew.
00:32:29
Speaker
So I think, I i mean, i think we're poised to have like some really great stories coming out. They may not necessarily follow superhero storylines, right? Like they're all sorts of different types of stories. And I think the Gatewatch was a deliberate attempt to kind of emulate that because it was not something that,
00:32:53
Speaker
I think magic had had before. um And they tried it and it it was, you know, ah I think for the most part it was successful. I would say that, yes, maybe a few, a number of fans kind of were tired of it at the end. And, but I think they, they still made a good overall, a good story out of it.
00:33:14
Speaker
Yeah. And I think, cause was there until the end, they they totally, they totally ah flopped the finish on that. Yeah. with the war of the spark yeah or uh uh what did what did um what did spice call it spice had something where he just it just love full of the spark yeah or something it was like like it was like it like it it was less than 12 hours you can't call it a war that is yeah like it's it's the yeah we started to like brainstorm different ideas or was you know the scuffle scuffle of the spark
00:33:49
Speaker
But yeah, so that was that was kind of the culmination, I guess. And then they do. There are Gatewatch members kind of show up in these other sets afterwards. But that really wasn't Gatewatch, was it?
00:34:01
Speaker
No, the Gatewatch pretty much officially dissolved after the war. Yeah. Because Jace went on his own way for a while. ah He showed up on Zendikar, but he wasn't.
00:34:16
Speaker
He did try to convince Nyssa to come back and work with them. So I think they're still like talking a little bit about it. But that didn't go well. Nyssa does not like Jace at all. I don't blame her.
00:34:29
Speaker
too Fair. Fair. yeah that's that's right and you have liliana was on the run gideon died yeah that's fair that that was kind of the end of the game watch yeah chandra was kind of mourning that everything went wrong for all of her friends uh uh and then you know went and lit some stuff on fire that's what she does so during um during the phyrexian arc uh Chandra, Nyssa, and Jace were working together. they i don't think they were calling themselves the Gatewatch. No, they were still working together. They were not on screen. you know and That was an interesting kind of
00:35:12
Speaker
and interesting pickle to to try to ah portray, I think, for several writers to to kind of portray that there was something going on, but they're just not on they're not featured. But there's there's machinations afoot.
00:35:27
Speaker
Yeah, it really, I mean, not that all involved Teferi, J. Chandra, and ah um working together for quite a while. ah and Well, Johnny was till he got gotten.
00:35:43
Speaker
oh to To some extent, just about every Planeswalker with a name tag, it seems, was involved on some level in that, which is, it kind of fits. It it fits and I think was probably handled in a way that different from how the gatewatch led into the war of the spark where it was focused on this handful of characters with a little interactions and then suddenly everybody gets pulled in it it felt like and you guys can correct me if you're wrong i i was not following stories closely then but it felt like the dominaria or the the phyrexian invasion had a lot more okay we're going talk to these characters here then we're going to see these characters here and they they really sprinkled everybody all about
00:36:25
Speaker
Yeah, it was a little more like that. War of the Spark was a bit more, ah i guess the word is contrived. i don't mean to attach a negative to it. it was It was that, like, that was a specific plan, specific plot point was the gathering of them together. Yeah. Versus, you know, Phyrexian arc was a little bit more organic, where the threat was everywhere.
00:36:50
Speaker
Yeah, and I mean, sorry, what i'm what I'm trying to get at is talking about it from like sort of the superhero fiction lens. The Gatewatch was like a specific team doing its one storyline with other people sort of showing up here and there, where it felt like the Phyrexian storyline was a lot more of kind of what you you were talking about a bit, Reinhard, where there could be multiple sort of different teams or different books or different series, sort of each series.
00:37:16
Speaker
play and It was more like, you know, almost more like the end of end game where just everybody and anybody starts popping out of portals. who Okay. Yeah. At the very end, it was like that, but they were, they it made sense.
00:37:31
Speaker
Maybe like how they have yeah got there, like a summer crossover event that the comics do. so Exactly. Yeah. That's exactly how you could think of it. Okay. ah Versus ah like War the Spark very much was like, um gosh, like Secret Wars, where it was it was like architected to like by some other force, Bolas or whatever, architected to be that way.
00:38:00
Speaker
Which is, again, interesting because, you know, i like to bring up the Armada comics because the Armada comics actually also had a lot of superhero DNA in it.
Magic's Storytelling & Canon
00:38:10
Speaker
And um so this whole like ah bringing um a bunch of planeswalkers together and entrapping them using a beacon.
00:38:21
Speaker
it's actually the second, you know, war of the Spark was the second time that happened. um the The first time was the Planeswalker War of all the Armada Planeswalkers who armed with all the Moxes responded to the Mox beacon and um were were entrapped by a crazy Planeswalker named Ravidel to like, he wanted to kill them all.
00:38:47
Speaker
um So, you know, ah Crazy supervillain plans. um they They get recycled. if They go they go go way back in Magic's history.
00:39:00
Speaker
it's I read a few of these back in the day i had the Fallen Empires ones and the Ice Age ones. That piece I had read many, many years ago. There's a lot of these I did not ever.
00:39:11
Speaker
Yeah, i i I only read, i read some of them that I picked up when I got back into Magic that just I happened to find at a comic book shop, but I have definitely not read all of the old Armada comics.
00:39:26
Speaker
Yeah, when you read about when you read them, and especially when you look at the art, the art is straight 90s superhero art. like the characters The characters looked more like superheroes, I would say, than they did like fantasy characters.
00:39:45
Speaker
um they They looked cool. They looked awesome, but they were more superhero-esque. Yeah. but Yeah, that's really interesting. I didn't know. i knew Planeswalker War being a thing in the past, but I didn't know that they were brought together by a beacon, too. so that's really funny that they reused that storyline almost 30 years later. Yeah. Well, you think, um I like to think that Nicole Bolas was like, how am I going to get the all these Planeswalker? Oh, wait.
00:40:15
Speaker
Yeah. Let me go to this book in my library and read some old comic books. I'll just use that plan. worked last time. Yeah, and I'm assuming the Planeswalker War didn't work well for the villain. but You know what?
00:40:33
Speaker
never got resolved. We never know. The whole line was canceled before so those issues came to pass. So so down it kind of didn't work for any of them then. no.
00:40:47
Speaker
It's a big mystery because, number one... what's funny is actually to fairy took part in it. He was there, but, uh, he's, he, he has never acknowledged it.
00:40:59
Speaker
Um, yeah Jared Carthalion also took part and he's never acknowledged it. Uh, so who knows? Yeah. yeah Is that from the, the era of questionable, uh, Canon?
00:41:14
Speaker
Yeah, it but it does it does show up on the official timeline, I think, but there's never been anything filled out about or you know covered in modern modern story about it at all. It's never been mentioned.
00:41:28
Speaker
Yeah. And you know what? you You just brought up canon. That is for fans of superhero comics. Debating and fighting about canon is is like a rite of passage.
00:41:41
Speaker
What is canon? What is not? what you know Did this person do this? Did this person do that? And Magic has that too. um i I would say, not that I have any sway over anything, but ah And ah much to Jay and Nelly's chagrin that I think everything is canon.
00:41:59
Speaker
um but Let's fit it all in. Yeah. Yeah. A long enough timeline, anything could be canon. That's that's kind of the ah right the wheel of time hand-waving. Well, you know, but it when it when the age comes back around, it's going to look a little bit different.
00:42:16
Speaker
Yeah. I would love for them to fill in some of that ancient history though. And that would be like, that would be the kind of thing I would love for them to do while they're releasing this UB sets, but to keep magic story going is to just release stories about some of these other times and places.
00:42:33
Speaker
Well, you know what? I, I think this is where magic fans and fans of magic story can play a role. um As Taya mentioned, um,
00:42:45
Speaker
ah There is upcoming a Strixhaven
Supporting Magic's Storytelling
00:42:49
Speaker
novel. like So this is the first magic novel since Forsaken. which yes yeah no yeah And um if you are at all a fan of story and if you know and if you love Strixhaven, there might be some people who only have gotten um exposed to Strixhaven through the D&D supplements.
00:43:14
Speaker
um Pick it up. Pre-order it. Like, let's make this a huge hit so that so that ah I can make my cockamamie story pitches and get some of this stuff into into canon.
00:43:28
Speaker
um ah Yeah. Seanan posted about this ah the day it was announced and talked about how important it is for people to pre-order this to show wizards how much we want long form magic story.
00:43:43
Speaker
Yeah, she may made made made the same pitch. She's like, I got to write this book. I'd like to write more. Please support this. yeah and there are plenty of great ah ah seasoned novel writers um ah that contribute to story.
00:44:00
Speaker
um And, you know, there are so many parts ah of the Magic unit Multiverse keep on saying universe magic multiverses that have not been cataloged both in the past and the present Let's let's give these writers like let them let them pick a place, pick a pick a cast picks, you know, and, you know, we used to have uncharted realms. Right.
00:44:26
Speaker
um And that was I mean, we when we look back and when you read some of those stories, like some characters really got their their footing there and like some worlds got their footing and their first mentions.
00:44:39
Speaker
Like you need to have, if you want the story to get richer, um you need to have words. You just need to have a word count. And these books are a great way to do it. So yeah, like if you're at all interested, take a look. And if it sounds interesting to you or you know someone who's, I'm not being paid by Wizards, by the way, by doing it for doing this.
00:44:59
Speaker
But like pre-order. I'm not being paid by Shannon to plug her work either. i do get to play Commander with her once in a while, which is lovely. But I'm... I'm not getting paid to promote it.
00:45:11
Speaker
Yeah. So we're saying the same thing. Oh, not being paid at all. Yeah. and But yeah, if it's something you like, of course, it's same with, and, and well, it's unfortunate we've, we've talked about on the cast and I'm sure we will talk about it again.
00:45:25
Speaker
um That, you know, we have all these universes beyond sets taking up space where story isn't really happening. Then um still we, we see wizards is, know,
00:45:36
Speaker
Seema, know, so from several moves, making good moves to show commitment to the story still, though this this novel from Shonen. And Edge of Eternity got 16 stories. keep going back to that. It got 16 stories. stories.
00:45:50
Speaker
So like they they just the most recent magic set that had store like set was set in the magic property universe itself. They gave a lot of extra space. They gave more space than most any other set that I can think of has had.
00:46:06
Speaker
And so there's still some some some commitment there. So if if that's something you like, engage with it. We don't read those stories, listen to them, buy the book. Next year, we're actually, even though there's going to be seven sets released, um we're still getting the same amount of story we used to get because there's three in-universe sets.
00:46:26
Speaker
And we used to get story for the three main block sets and not the core set, except for 2019 or 18, whenever day the Chronicles Bullets. But we usually never got story for core sets. So we'd get story for three sets a year, and we're going to get stories for three sets um next year.
00:46:44
Speaker
Yeah, yeah which will which will be nice. ah the The way it's a arranged, there's going to huge drought for us. because Yeah, um because Lorwyn and Strixhaven are released like six weeks apart.
00:46:56
Speaker
ah It was January and April, there's a little bit of year, but not a ton still. Oh, yeah. No, there's that unanowuned the unannounced Universes Beyond set that's in between them.
00:47:06
Speaker
so yeah there's like there's yeah, there's like six weeks ah after Lorwyn releases, there's another set that comes out. Yeah, that from a from a keeping up with the card game standpoint is a whole other thing. But from for the story, at least those two will have a bit of time to breathe. But then, yeah, that's the first third of the year.
00:47:24
Speaker
We don't have any magic sets of story until is it October, November? Yeah, I think so. Reality fracture. I think it's October. So we don't have. We're going to have a gap in the summer where we gobble in the rest to figure out what we're going to talk about. I mean, that's how it used to be, though, because we always had the we always had the ah summer um story missing when we had core sets.
00:47:47
Speaker
That's fair. so Yeah, and there was we would get a little spoiled because there was a few years where we'd have things like Commander Legends that would... not have story itself, but would have long articles.
00:47:58
Speaker
And they did do stories for the commander decks one of the years. I think it was C15. Maybe it oh yeah was the experience commanders.
00:48:09
Speaker
But we got story for at least some of them. Yeah, so we'd get some extra bits there. But but yeah, definitely so support.
00:48:21
Speaker
And again, if it's, you know... something you like, support it, but even just show up for the web fiction. Read those, listen to them. They have them on YouTube, i think. They have them in podcast apps.
00:48:33
Speaker
Yeah, they have they have actually on embedded in the web pages, I believe. If you go to the web fiction, you can just listen to them right there.
00:48:44
Speaker
Yep, they have they have that there too. like i just I know for some of the Edge of Eternity's ones, like... part of how I caught up on some of those stories was just listening them on the bus through the podcast app, which was cool to just have it there too.
00:49:00
Speaker
Yeah. That's I listened to most of the ah edge of eternity story this time when I was busy doing other stuff. And that was, it was really nice to have that option.
00:49:13
Speaker
Even though with edge of eternities, you did miss out a little bit because you didn't get the branching story. Yeah. Yeah, that had the the weird um choose your own adventure for pieces of it and and little ah addendums and stuff, which which was really neat in the in the written articles.
00:49:32
Speaker
Yeah, that's so that's If this is something you like, support it. And those are good ways to do it too. Like if you can buy the book, that's, that's great. That's a month. That's amazing. Please do it. But even some of these others, I'm to say, if you want to support a, uh, trans, uh, comic book owner, I will, as soon as they get their pre-order page up, I will be sharing it on blue sky, ah I know she would appreciate the orders. Excellent.
00:49:58
Speaker
And um also some writers, like this is the thing I see a lot of writers talk about too. They say if, if you know, financial things and you have a hard time buying books, talk to libraries because if your library buys a copy, that's still a copy of the book that's sold.
00:50:14
Speaker
Right. Right. And um you know, and word of mouth can spread through the libraries and, know, you know Because libraries often will only have one or two copies, but if there have more copy or if there are more people that will want the copy ah want to read it, they might just say, okay, well, I don't want to wait the two or three weeks. I'm just going to go buy it.
00:50:37
Speaker
But they wouldn't know about it until they saw it there. or you know So, yeah yeah, all that stuff is is just um a nice way to support what you want.
00:50:48
Speaker
You should support what you want. um But, I mean, as far as returning back to ah superheroes,
Predictions for Magic's Storytelling
00:50:57
Speaker
right? Like... um i i don't know I don't know if we're going to get that kind of storytelling for a little bit. I mean, that there are certain aspects of superhero storytelling that are heroic storytelling, right? Like um heroic fantasy.
00:51:15
Speaker
um But as far as like the team, the the specific being with the team, getting to know the dynamics between the people, i don't know if we're going to have that.
00:51:27
Speaker
for a while. I think we're going to kind of spreading out a little bit and maybe we'll have a little bit of that later. Maybe, who knows, there might be like a crazy Gatewatch reunion at some point because something needs to be done.
00:51:43
Speaker
um But yeah, I'm thinking that maybe the the more kind of picaresque well disparate storytelling is going to be what we're going to have for a while.
00:51:55
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I don't think we'll have a focus on on a specific team in particular. I think we may... Honestly, I don't know that we're going to have a lot of focus on a specific character set to set. We may have some of the same characters showing up in a couple of sets here and there, like we have Jace sort of.
00:52:12
Speaker
But like like you said earlier, Taya, Jace just skipped out. like he's he's not He didn't show up in Edge. he did That storyline didn't show up at all. And he didn't show up... um I don't know, it was the Tarkir, but like he may not show up at all in in in the in the upcoming sets too, just because from what we know of the story that's going on there.
00:52:34
Speaker
And so I think any recurring characters are we may have, at least for the time being, um may be like that, where we see this character here, we see these two characters interact there. and Like said, Reinhardt, we may not have a full team dynamic thing until such time as people get pulled together and then we get a little bit of team dynamics as they come together to deal with one threat. But I don't know that we're going to have a specific, like co a team that is a specific construction in that or you know in that configuration for multiple threats, multiple things.
00:53:08
Speaker
think it's been more ad hoc for a while. Yeah, and I think in that way, um the the different stories for the different sets are going to be more self-contained, I think. like I'm assuming that the Strixhaven story will be self-contained. We're not going to necessarily follow these students to Reality Fracture or whatever.
00:53:30
Speaker
Yeah, it's like Bloomboro was really self-contained. Not 100%, but pretty darn self-contained. I expect we'll see a lot of sets like that with maybe one little thread, one little thing, um but just an establishment of the universe again. And just here's some new worlds, here's some old worlds, just establishing who people are in different places.
00:53:52
Speaker
And then we can start to see people coming together for things, even if it's not major events. We just have those crossover events you talk like like you talked about. um um aether drift was a little bit of that in a lot of ways where we get to see a couple of worlds that had featured fairly prominently one that has not prominently at all and we kind of got to see ah bunch of different people kind of coming together for this event and i wonder if we're going to have a lot of more small scale events like that outside of the specific culmination of whatever jace has going on
00:54:25
Speaker
At least for now, as they establish more threats, more overarching storylines that we'll probably build into in the coming years. So is this is this coming year, so 2026, supposed to be the culmination of an arc?
00:54:39
Speaker
is that Yeah, so... um it's basically the end of the Omen Path, um, arc. It's, uh, there was three small arcs that basically the Kellen one. And then the, uh, the last year has been kind of, uh, the following loop, um, story, finding and following loot after Kellen wrapped up. And then,
00:55:07
Speaker
um you know, we know Jace disappeared and then we're going to get the two sets at the beginning of the year that um we might get little like cameo pieces of the story like we did in Bloomberg.
00:55:21
Speaker
ah But I don't think it's going to feature heavily the main story. And then we out then we get the wrap up of basically the last three. years Everything since the end of the Phyrexian arc is going to wrap up in Reality Fractured.
00:55:32
Speaker
Okay, interesting. That seems, yeah, and they kind of kind of set it up that way. I think they said Jay storyline was like a three or so year thing, which would end there. um I'm trying to find the article that talked about Reality Fracture because it was a very, very small amount of story, which is totally fair. that they it's It's far enough away that they didn't want to give too much, but...
00:55:54
Speaker
um and Like, it didn't even say Jace. I think we're just assuming Jace because Jace is what's happening right now. Yeah. and This is, yeah, but like you announced, that they they announced at the end of the Phyrexian arc that the next story arc was going to be a three-year arc of, like, one-year mini arc. So this would be the end of that.
00:56:14
Speaker
Yeah, here is all they have said about Reality Fracture. Years of subtle machinations will finally shatter the facade, revealing a villain you'll have to see to believe, but not just yet, more will be unveiled soon enough.
00:56:27
Speaker
That's what we got. But it kind of lines up with with what they the expectations they set for how long, whatever Jace has going on. They've been really cagey about it, which fits Jace himself has been very cagey.
00:56:41
Speaker
um he's He's been having his own sort of internal villain monologues about how nobody can understand that he's doing this for everybody's good. Yeah. Magneto said. Yeah, exactly. Magneto was right.
00:56:53
Speaker
ha Yeah. So we'll ah we'll see what happens with that in about a year now. but ah And we'll see how much it plays into the other two sets, but I think you're you're probably right, Taya. We'll probably see like Bloomberg level or less.
00:57:11
Speaker
which was very, very, it was what, like Ral showing up, finding Jace as an otter. And then that was not even finding Jace looking for Jace, looking for Jace and then, and then leaving because he didn't find him looking for Jace, finding a dragon.
00:57:31
Speaker
So it has more story tie in with the Tarkir set than it did with Jace's storyline. That's, that's, that's right.
00:57:40
Speaker
So yeah, that's that's my expectation is we'll have a about that level. maybe Maybe just a pinch more and and that's it. but Maybe we see Luke show up. I don't think we see Jason at all until Reality Fracture.
00:57:52
Speaker
I don't think so either. The way he disappeared at the end of Dragonstorm. Yeah. the teaser very much does have uh, an end game sort of feeling to it, a hidden villain revealed, you know? Yeah.
00:58:08
Speaker
Yeah. I think at best we get some weird, post credit scene style hint at the very last story for Strixhaven, but probably not.
00:58:23
Speaker
Yeah. I I'm interested to see how it goes. Uh, you Lorwyn's going to be sweet. Uh, Strixhaven, had my issues with the story, the and original time.
00:58:37
Speaker
um but, uh, um, you know, overall I liked the setting a lot. Um, so as long as wizards doesn't shoot themselves in the head by releasing a Harry product, a Harry Potter product when they released Strixhaven, uh,
00:58:56
Speaker
I will be okay with that. ah Yeah. And even from a more step back specific story, but more just overarching Vorthos stuff, I really, really appreciated Strixhaven, like creating alternate, alternative sort of impressions of the, of the two color of those two color. yeah Yeah. The enemy pairs. Cause that's the thing where it's like,
00:59:22
Speaker
as As a person who, by and large, I kind of feel red-white is my color identity, but it's like very lore-hold-knot Boros. I like having that distinction where we get to see two different representations of the same color pairs. Yeah, I think my biggest problems with the original Strixhaven story mostly relied around how much I hated Luca. Yeah.
00:59:43
Speaker
so yeah I mean, he just shows up on the plane. Somebody is rude to him. So he decides he's going to help peace so help some cultists wipe out the Ming part of the plane. There's like what's in it really for him. Why is he doing any of this?
01:00:00
Speaker
Yeah, Luca, not not great. That poor guy. i just, eat you know, talk about getting a raw deal ah everywhere, every time.
01:00:12
Speaker
i mean, a little bit. He got some raw deal on Ikorion. Yeah, that's where his raw deal started. Then he kind of decided, I'm going to now make this everyone else's problem. And at a certain point, you become the problem as well. Yeah, I mean, when you just decide to kill all the humans, I think you might have gone a little too far in response to what what what happened yeah you're like there's there's you know systemic issues in this society i will work to destroy all of you there's a there's a gap in there where you could have done something differently and and it would have gone better but
01:00:52
Speaker
Well, he's gone now. He is. Speaking of superheroes and characters not actually dying. He's like super duper dead. There's not many characters that they have super killed in this series in the last decade. He's one of them.
01:01:10
Speaker
Like we have one third of the Eldrazi left. We have Phyrexians and we have Bolas. They didn't fully resolve any of those three arcs. And they could even bring back Tibalt if they want because he was thrown
01:01:24
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's that's 100 percent comic book death. It's like, yes, you so absolutely. In a situation where there is no reason for him to survive, but you didn't see the body. Yeah.
01:01:36
Speaker
He might still be alive. I mean, that that in itself, Phyrexia in itself being sealed away and not just detonated. That is a comic book thing as well.
01:01:46
Speaker
So, yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah. so that That happened with all three and and they managed to have, because we we still have, well, Bolas is free now. like They managed to have all three of those threats contained for like less than a year in skill life.
01:02:04
Speaker
What was the gap between the the end of the Phyrexian arc and when Bolas released? Dragon Storm has been about, it's been like two and a half years Two a half years. Okay, so it's a little longer than I was expecting.
01:02:15
Speaker
they had it They had it on lockdown a little bit longer than I thought, but Not a lot. It's not a lot of time. I think it goes to show that instead of Jace, they should have just put... The Gatewatch should have just put Soren in charge, and then they would have stayed sealed for thousands of years. Yeah.
01:02:37
Speaker
Yeah. Jace and Ugin. They're well known to have good plans, I guess. Yeah.
01:02:46
Speaker
Yeah. a
01:02:50
Speaker
Ah, Ugin, Ugin, Ugin. and of course you won't take any responsibility for it either. No, after after a few thousand years of doing the same plan and having it fail over and over again, he's he's picked his course.
01:03:03
Speaker
yeah I did the same thing I did last time that didn't work. I don't understand why it didn't work this time. He's like, do you know how many games I've ended? I've ended so many games. Yeah. Give me a break.
01:03:15
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:19
Speaker
Right. Well, i think unless you guys have anything else, maybe we wrap this up here. no no thank you for coming back. was nice to have you on again. As always, I have a lot of fun. Thank you both.
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Speaker
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Speaker
We welcome all feedback through social media or by joining our Discord which is very active. And now goblins, I just want to remind you that goblins, like snowflakes, are only dangerous in numbers.