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Episode 270: We're Time Spiraling!
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Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome back to another episode of the Goblin Lore Podcast!
Take a step back 19 years into the past to discuss Time Spiral story with Taya and Alex. The first return of Hobbes’ favorite dragon and the first trip back to Dominaria after years away. Things aren’t so good on the plane.
https://multiverseinreview.blogspot.com/2022/03/time-spiral.html
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Introduction to Goblin Lore Podcast
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Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome to another episode of the Goblin Lore Podcast.
New Block: Time Spiral Begins
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We are back this week to continue talking story, not current story, because there isn't any current story, but we are talking old story, going back to some old sets and covering story and and taking kind of a meltless look at the cards later on. But tonight, we are going to start a new block. We we covered the invasion story in cards recently.
00:00:55
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We're going back to Time Spiral. Well, forward from invasion but still back from the current day uh we uh i guess i'll just introduce myself we can introduce two hosts who are here hobbs is still taking a break but i'm alex um pronouns he him i stopped myself from starting my old intro when I gave a a Twitter handle, which I don no longer, ah no longer exists.
Magic Legends and Personal Stories
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um I am found on the discord, the governor discord and nowhere else in social media right now. um We have an opening question, but let's ah ta introduce herself and I can jump into that.
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Hey, I'm Taya. Taya Transcend on Blue Sky. Pronouns are she, her, they, them. um And yeah, I'm looking forward to talking about Ice Age. Wow. ah Time Spiral. I was looking at an Ice Age character ah as I said that.
00:01:51
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Yeah. I mean, that could be on the list for, for a later on. Time spiral is easily my favorite block for lots of weird and personal reasons, but, um, Yeah, so I guess before we we get into into that, can talk a little bit about that background and then get into the story.
00:02:08
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We do have an opening question. We wanted to just talk about a legend um from this set that you know kind of means something to us or that honestly that we have a good story for. it Because mine, and the the the card itself has, I haven't done much with Thalen of Havenwood, but Thalen of Havenwood is very much a legend.
Nostalgia for Fallen Empires Set
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That would fit like the very, very first deck that I ever built when I started playing Magic back in 1994. This guy is a 2-2 Elf Druid for green-green and has each Fungus gets plus one, plus one for each Spore Counter on it.
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And then an activated ability, black-green, remove a Fungus card in a graveyard from the game, put a Spore Counter on each Fungus in play. my yeah My very, very first deck that I ever remember building that wasn't just the pile of cards I own was a Thalid deck back in Fallen Empires.
00:03:07
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Yeah, i had I had a full set of the Kindred decks from fall in Fallen Empires. The Thrall deck was my favorite, but I do think that the... ah The Sapperling one was probably the best overall.
00:03:27
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Yes, these these were... um i had a lot of fun with it. They were... I mean, Fallen Empires was not a good set, but it was a lot of fun to to play with these.
Fungus Deck Mechanics
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Like all fungus, and these have kind of come back in some Dominaria sets, which is fun. But these were you know all funguses that during your so upkeep, you put a spore counter on them. And then three of them. So Thalid, Thalid, Devourer, Thorn Thalid.
00:03:56
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You could... Oh no, if this Thorns just zap people. Well, you can remove the counters to do things. Thalid could make Saperlings. That Thalid Devourer could make Saperlings. Could also sacrifice Saperlings to get plus one, plus two until end of turn.
00:04:10
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it It was... Yeah, I mostly build around those two. and i was I tried to do like a green go wide deck that was... built around these salads. But it was, you know, and and Fungal Bloom, that was a really important card that put spore counters on all your funguses, or on a target fungus. God, it wasn't even that good. Green Green Enchantment. Green Green put a spore counter on target fungus.
00:04:35
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Oh boy. But yeah, it was... Hey, six six green green and you can get a Saproling. Yeah, six green meta for a one-one. Oh boy. And can...
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Could they at least deactivate their abilities at any time? Yes, I could at least make the Sapralinks at any time. Put a Sapralink token into play, treat it as a 1-1 green creature. Okay. the Yeah, so that it was, I mean, especially about today's standards, not good, but it was a lot of fun, and I had a fun time with it.
Nostalgia and Time Spiral
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And so when when I was playing Time Spiral and Thalen of Havenwood came out, and Havenwood is the location there where during Fallen Empires where the elves made the Sapralinks. I think in the story, this is the guy who made them, probably.
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Because kind of the story of Fallen Empires was, well, a bunch of empires that were falling, and these elves created these these fungus that eventually overran them. Yeah, they created... ah The whole story of Fallen Empires is basically you had an entrenched um kindred group that is being replaced by an outside kindred group of some sort. So the the elves are getting replaced by the Thalads. They created them as food, and the Thalads decided they didn't like being eaten. Yeah.
00:05:49
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you know that that We get another legend in this set, Endric Saar, Master Breeder, who invented the Thralls, which were a slave race to the Ebon Hand, and they decided they didn't need the Ebon Hand anymore. And so that's why when you control seven or more Thralls, you sacrifice Endric Saar. Yep.
00:06:10
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Yep.
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Yeah, no, it's, ah I don't know, it's it's cool. ah well and And now I just realized too, looking at the Thalen of Havenwood card, the fla the flavor text, the sight of my thalid still thriving is a bittersweet welcome to this cold waste, means he got pulled forward in
Jaya Ballard's Introduction and Card Details
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time. That's the story that's happening here.
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this is it This isn't like the commander decks many years after this set where they would print old legends in the set and just be like, this is a person from 500 years ago.
00:06:42
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We're just giving them a card in this secondary set. No, no, this guy apparently was pulled forward in time is what they're saying. And I think that happened with all of these. um Except the one I'm going to talk about, which is Jaya.
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uh,
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ah Jaya had been on flavor text almost since the beginning of magic. ah She always was known for quick quippy flavor text. ah And she finally got a card in time spiral, ah which is mono red control card.
00:07:19
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yes But interestingly, two of her abilities have to do with dealing damage to things. And one just destroys a blue permanent because color hosing was still very much a thing back then.
00:07:31
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um these are close to three so different magic cards too yeah it three abilities i guess the the first one isn't exactly blue elemental blast bla right it's only half of it yeah the second one is lightning bolt uh essentially but it's lightning bolt or it's incinerate since can't regenerated yeah And that's the same cost as Incinerate too, which is fun. Yeah.
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And then the last one is just ah six damage to each creature and player. ah
00:08:06
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yeah I think that's an Inferno. Yes, because there's Inferno with... I pulled up Jaya Ballard Flavor Finder. yeah, so she... um Well, half of a Red Elemental Blast. She basically has discard a card, do this other card, Red Card's effect.
00:08:24
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Yeah, kind of the spell shaper thing. Yeah. That was started in Mercadian Masks. and And she has some really sick-ass art from Matt Kavada.
00:08:35
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Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. i have I do own and a Jaya original art. I have the one for... is it? Rite of Flame something? From the secret lair, the Jaya Memoriam secret lair.
00:08:52
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ah And, uh, yeah, I, It's sweet art. And also specifically, there's ah there's going to be a lot of things that this they put a lot of attention to detail in all the little details of this block, which is the one of the reasons why I like it.
00:09:09
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It's also one of the reasons why it's super, super opaque and hard for people who don't have all the background of magic to understand what's happening. But I just look, all three of those cards, not only are they big like red cards that fit Jaya's flavor, all three of them have flavor text from her in Ice Age.
Complexity and Appeal of Time Spiral
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Oh, cool. i forever I never realized that. It's so Inferno, at least the 8th edition one here. it's the I think the Ice Age probably has the same flavor text.
00:09:37
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Oh, no. Inferno is from the Dark. It's not from Ice Age. But in 8th edition, 6th edition is the first time they have flavor text from Jaya.
00:09:48
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And it says, and it is, some have said there is no subtlety to destruction. You know what? They're dead. Yeah. Very giant. so yeah So some of these were were after the fact, but like this incinerate from 10th edition would have been printed before Time Spiral.
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Actually, that does that one does go all way back to Ice Age. her Yes, I think toast is an appropriate description. It goes all way back to Ice Age. Yeah, that's that's a fun little detail.
00:10:15
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All right, cool. Yeah, I guess at this point they just must not have wanted to put counter blue spell on a red card anymore. Yeah, I think they they probably decided like a repeatable counterspell might be a little powerful. though I guess destroying a Permanent is pretty powerful. Yeah, and you still have to discard a card. but and Yeah.
00:10:37
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No, I just think they decided at that point Red wasn't going to get counterspells anymore, and we didn't get another Red counterspell until Tibble's Trickery. You're right. That's a good point, too, because they were they were much more about the color pop, which is ironic given the next set. that Yeah.
00:10:51
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you know the point of the next set was to imagine alternative versions and wasn't supposed to create Canon going forward, but it kind of created Canon going forward. But yeah, that's, that's fair.
00:11:03
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but Cool. So yeah, Time Spiral Block um was in there. 2006. The novel was published in September of right we're dealing with a ah you know ah nineteen year old set now yeah holy moy So yeah, this, um one of the reasons this was my favorite set is because I'd been playing Magic on and off for most of its history. I got in with Revised in 94, so I missed, you know, a few sets before that, but a lot of the Legends and Antiquities and Arabian stuff
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um kind of showed up in other places between chronicles and even even in revised it was the first time they did like what we think of as a course where they took the alpha beta unlimited stuff and then took a few cards out put a few cards in from other expansions so there's a few antiquities and arabian nights cards that showed up and revised and so oh i basically i had a good grasp and that there were times where I was playing less and more um but when this set came out in 2006 and was very referential looking back to the whole history of Magic, particularly the oldest parts of it um which is most of what I had played I loved it. There was so much. I mean a lot of, I think a lot of my love for the sort of Mel and Meltho stuff comes from Time Spiral Block
00:12:34
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where there's some really cool mechanical things that are interesting, there's some really cool flavor. things that fit into the mechanics and a lot of like weird history references. You have like castle Raptors where I can go into a lot of specific cards too much, but like I just, castle Raptors is a bird soldier that gets, as long as it's on tap, it gets plus zero plus two because in alpha there was a enchantment called castle that gave your untapped creatures plus zero plus two. So it's just these, all of these cards were referencing old things.
00:13:09
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um But so the set, the the story that we're going to talk about to tonight specifically, and we'll come back to the the individual cards later, we'll do a a look at the cards later.
00:13:20
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But the set, um the story for this was kind of doing the same thing. one of the One of the things that ultimately happened, just to set the stage a little bit, for for folks who might be familiar with some of the beats of the magic story, this block is when the mending happened.
00:13:37
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Not in the first book. That's the let's the culmination of this this set, this this block of story. But the whole point, like one of the big things that was happening is Wizards was not just building this set on the past, present, and alternate, present, and future thing and messing around with mechanics.
00:13:55
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They were also really going back to the past and doing a bunch doing a bunch of tinkering to... kind of change how the story was going to be told going forward. And we get the, this is the last set with the old school planeswalkers because then the mending takes that away. And we have the new planeswalkers, which sort of, mean, I guess we still have tech, we have today, but though there was a recent change to how that works too, pretty recently.
00:14:22
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And so this set from a story standpoint is kind of a pivotal piece, the pivotal spot where, But also it's not like, again, because it was so self-referential and looking back, it's really hard for some people to understand.
Teferi's Return and Time Displacement
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New players were definitely turned off by it.
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This set also spun out. ah The reactions to the set also created multiple iterations of them completely revisiting how they build cards and build sets so that they don't have oh a block like this that new players just can't even understand and bounce off of really hard.
00:15:00
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But coming back, all of that aside, I guess let's talk about the story. And so this starts with Teferi, which is kind of fun. Teferi and Joyra. Um, they have been, um living in a bubble ah outside of the time stream since invasion, which again, we just talked invasion during the invasion.
00:15:20
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Urza wanted to bring in Teferi and have Teferi help him fight the, fight the Phyrexians and Teferi instead said, you know what you do you, I'm going to protect mine. And Teferi phased out, um, Zulfir parts of Shiv and, a couple other regions are there.
00:15:40
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This is kind of now coming back after the the war, after the invasion is over and a few other things happen. We're coming back to Teferi kind of Just, you know, coming back to Dominaria to try to bring back all these places that he phased out and realizing that they won't fit.
00:16:02
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ah Shiv, and in particular, starts to return into Dominaria, but doesn't metaphysically fit where it used to. um And the the resulting crash could destroy Dominaria.
00:16:15
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And due to the way that the whole set of Dominaria, the whole plane of Dominaria has been set up as some like pillar of the multiverse, it's possible that Dominaria being destroyed could destroy the entire multiverse.
00:16:28
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Yeah, Teferi also made a little calculation mistake here because yeah he thought it had only been 100 years since they went bye-bye, phased out, but it had actually been 300 years.
00:16:44
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So, yeah, yeah, he he phased out for three times longer than he had planned on it. Yeah, might might have something to do with it, with it not fitting. Also, all of the events that happened in between, like he he phased out all that stuff in the beginning of the invasion story.
00:17:03
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And so then there was the Wrath overlay, caused the whole, the artificial plane of Wrath to merge into Dominaria, bringing a bunch of geography with it that wasn't there previously and merging things.
00:17:16
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You've got all the stuff that happened during Apocalypse, though I think that was more just weird apocalyptic things, like weird ah death plagues by the name of Yawgmoth rather than
Radha and the Mana Rifts
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planar mechanics, but, um, yeah, they, Joyra and Teferi, uh, start trying to figure out what they, what they can do.
00:17:39
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They get to the regular world to try to smooth out this landing, to try to figure out what, what they can do. And they talk to Freilis in Sky Shroud, which is, as, uh, as you said, Taya is, is when they find out that, um,
00:17:54
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are to to use the same sarcasm that the multiverse and review author had here, the our master of time. ah So miscalculated. Yeah. um Yeah, no, that's a minor error.
00:18:08
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ah Just 200 years late. um You know, it wouldn't be the first time to fairy screwed something up. Won't be the last time.
00:18:19
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Yeah. yeah but definitely Definitely not the first time, though I guess those are some older stories we can talk about and can say not the last time, which are more stories we could get to potentially.
00:18:33
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um But also then when they're in Sky Shroud, they discover Radha. Yay, one of my favorite characters. Although in her her early printing, she's just kind of skinny and she's still muscular, but she's not this big hulking... ah woman she becomes later after embracing the spirit of Keld.
00:18:56
Speaker
ah Do you have Radha deck? I have one um digitally. i haven't I haven't made it in paper. I've been pulling the cards for it, but it's ah it's a Grand Warlord Radha deck. The one from the first dominar or Dominaria. Dominaria, yeah. The one that generates a butt ton of mana when you attack with big creatures.
00:19:22
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Uh, yeah. Um, I got a, uh, I got an altar of her to one of my TTRPG characters, my Marvel Asgardian Berserker.
00:19:35
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so yeah, I have a, I have a custom altar of her to play. Um, but yeah, I just, I need to, I have, I have the rest of the, ah you know, the half of the deck that I've pulled sitting on my desk and I need to pull the other half.
00:19:51
Speaker
Cool. But yeah, so this is this is where Radha first shows up. The Radha heir to Keld version um first shows up here. And this is you know part of part of the the consequences of the invasion there. You have Sky Shroud and Keld in the same location. And so you have this this elf who has green red and has these kelden you know more warlord tendencies as opposed to the old Sky Shroud elves and kind of the merging of these things, but also significantly for the story, when the things they learn is that Radha can tap into the mana of these rifts. So that's one
Time Rifts and Historical Impact
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of the things that they discover coming back. There are rifts all over Dominaria. This ties into the mechanics of the set a little bit, where there's a mechanic that
00:20:38
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Well, we can kind of get into that later, but there's mechanics that mess around with time. And I think both, i want to say both suspend and split second represent like time rifts in their art for most of these cards.
00:20:52
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But then this is also kind of part of the storyline is is as they go, they learn that these rifts are causing stress and damage to the plane. So Teferi trying to... Yeah, they're basically all the mana and Dominaria is leaking out into the multiverse through these time rifts.
00:21:10
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Yep, which are mostly the consequences, as they kind of learn later, of the many, many apokali that have happened. Yeah, I mean, they're it's pretty much all to blame on planeswalkers because they... Yes. Yeah.
00:21:25
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It's just kind of... They're the ones who tend to do big, dumb things that tear holes in reality. yeah And so then they get convince Radha and Freilis that Radha should come with him so that he can study her link to the Skyshroud Rift and you know see if he can learn how to fix these other rifts based on on some of that knowledge.
00:21:54
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So Radha would rather stay and fight these time-displaced Gaffins, who now rule Kel'd, Um, and she's finally convinced by, uh, by Teferi that he will give her his power. He will lend her his power to fight them.
00:22:12
Speaker
Uh, part of it is some less than friendly banter, including a time when she jabs a spike through his head. And remember old school planes Walker, he is nigh immortal and all power, like lots of very, very powerful.
00:22:29
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And uh, his body is not exactly where he's living. It's just a place for him to power interact with the rest of the multiverse. Exactly. And so, yeah, getting, getting stabbed in the head is, is a minor inconvenience to planeswalkers most of the time at at this point in time.
00:22:50
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ah which is also why, by and large, they haven't been the focal point of stories. For the most part, you only get them in the stories when they're side characters kind of coming from outside to trying to do something, like Freilis in the Ice Age stories, or when they are mortals who you know ascend like at the end of the book, and you get that in a few cases, like with Jaya and um Karn have have that has that happen too.
00:23:20
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So yeah, they they go to Urborg because there's another rift there um with the overlay of the stronghold from Wrath is there. um And this is where they run into Venser.
00:23:31
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ah He has a similar link to his to the local rift there. um yeah He also has built a teleporter that interacts with them. So ah that's another thing, you know, another of of interest to Teferi again, trying to gather information and and learn information.
00:23:49
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how these things work yeah ventzer was also uh experimenting with um phyrexian technology so you know there's another blue mage who doesn't necessarily make the best decisions that's fair that's fair Yeah, I mean, and especially like the stronghold is, you know, what is one of the strong points on Wrath, a Phyrexian creation um to be used as part of the invasion. Yeah, and that bit comes from the Muradin block story when Venser shows up again, when find out he's been working on Phyrexian.
00:24:25
Speaker
Hmm. Okay. Artifacts and stuff. Yeah. So they, ah after after a demonstration though, this thing won't power down and the rift spits out a huge shadow dragon.
00:24:40
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um In the chaos, Teferi planeswalks them into the rift to try to figure out how it works. And then he gets snapshots of all these disasters through the various created by the various rifts through the ages.
00:24:52
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And so this is this is, I think, where he kind of gets the idea that, okay, we need to fix these rifts tied to these disasters from all of these various things, which includes Shiv. Like, this is a rift created by his own
Nicol Bolas's Resurrection
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hands. That one was.
00:25:08
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there are ah number of others, um, that they kind of spend some time moving forward in the block. over Uh, and there's also an, an, a small important thing that happens at this point in the story too.
00:25:22
Speaker
Yes. Uh, know, you may have seen the card. that It was one of the initial original sagas printed in, um the Dominaria set, but the, the eldest reborn, uh, um,
00:25:36
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Everyone knows Nicol Bolas is the oldest of the um Elder Dragons. Yes. He tells himself that. Yeah.
00:25:48
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And then this is where we get some some words from a a disembodied voice ah that calls itself Sensei Rue.
00:26:00
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yeah, it it's, I think this is another one where it's very, if you knew apparently, you know, if you knew the history, which I didn't at the time, but then you learn fairly quickly that, yeah, that's Nicole Bolas. Nicole Bolas shows up here and.
00:26:16
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um Yeah. But by messing with the rift, they managed to ah resurrect Nicole Bolas from his defeat thousands of years ago. Yep, because of course of course. And he chops to ferry in the little pieces.
00:26:34
Speaker
Yeah, but, you know, of course he gets better. Yeah. Because as planeswalkers would at this time. yeah um One other neat thing, which we probably will talk about a little bit more when we talk about the cars, maybe not a ton, but they're this set, so all three sets in this block they did, they had kind of a funky treatment.
00:26:54
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um This one is the weirdest, maybe, game. So Time Spiral in the booster packs, you had, you know, your normal pack, your normal disbursement of Commons and Commons rare.
00:27:06
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um But then they also had one extra card out of the time shifted sheet. Yeah, this was the first set that came with a came with what is now just a bonus sheet that they do for a lot of sets. Yeah.
00:27:19
Speaker
yeah But and they did it in time spiral and then they didn't do it again until, you know, when they start, whenever they started making those bonus sheet cards, like within the last couple of years.
00:27:30
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. The other two in this block, the quote unquote bonus sheet was just part of the normal disbursement of cards. They were just different treatments on specific cards. So it's not like today where you might get the same card has two or three different treatments. There it was just like the specific,
00:27:48
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future site cards had a different border on them. um But the time shifted sheet, they gave them a purple rarity, which is also kind of a reference to fourth rarity that they kind of talked about not doing. And then lo and behold, years later, we get mythic rares like a year after this set too. I think, I don't think it was that much of a gap, but one of the fun things is this, the, the time shifted sheet was the first time I think they printed at the old border on cards since they,
00:28:17
Speaker
went away from it. And it's like the last time they did it for quite a while. It wasn't until they started doing like judge promos with the old border. It was just this one time they printed 121 on this sheet.
00:28:30
Speaker
on this sheet Good cards, bad cards. Yeah, they were they were all cards throughout Dominarian's history. so they were all things from the past.
00:28:42
Speaker
Yep, all like pre-modern cards um from Dominarian. guess Sari Dideros was homelands, but just all pre-modern cards mostly on Dominarian sets. But that included Nicole Bolas. He's the only Elder Dragon they put in that sheet. Yeah.
00:28:58
Speaker
but which Which is cool, again, because then he's part of the story. Then they have that original card. You could potentially open that original card um in in in a booster pack.
Teferi's Loss and Story Cliffhanger
00:29:08
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So, yeah. Then after...
00:29:12
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to After Teferi manages you know to lose in a duel and not stay dead, he does he does convince Nicole Bolas that you know maybe you would like it if the world continued to exist and also the multiverse.
00:29:25
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And so Bolas decided to head off and get some vengeance on people related to Tetsu Umazawa, the person who killed him um before you know everything ends. And he's kind of I'm not going to help you, but you know what?
00:29:41
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I'll let you keep going. If you want to save everything, go for it. Yeah, it's more, it is interesting, though. And this definitely shows that the the red part of Bolas is that, you know, faced with the potential end of the multiverse or getting revenge, he focused completely on getting revenge.
00:30:01
Speaker
yeah yeah his his he's got a he's got a temper yes his his contribution to the multiverse not ending was simply letting Teferi work on it if he wanted to like, you know what?
00:30:16
Speaker
i'll stop ah i I'll stop distracting you. You go ahead and work if that's what you want to do. So yeah, that that's fun. And so if he leaves.
00:30:28
Speaker
Teferi decides, hey, let's go to Shiv and brings Venser and this Viashino they work journeying with at the time. So they go and then Radha and other members of their retinue go back to Skyshroud.
00:30:45
Speaker
After meeting with Freilis, Rodhog gets some Elvis Rangers to go take out this Gotham warlord, Gret. After a battle that ends with him exploding, she's touched by the spirit of Keld and makes a covenant with it and becomes a true Keld and warlord.
00:31:00
Speaker
We see represented ah probably in the next set, I think, is where we get the heir to Keld card. um And then Teferi closes the Shiv in Rift, bringing Shiv back um and But this costs him his planeswalker spark, which they don't.
00:31:22
Speaker
He did not know that that's what's going to
Time Spiral's Legacy in Magic
00:31:24
Speaker
happen. And then there's a cliffhanger where Shiven's attack and he realizes he doesn't have a spark anymore. So that's the end of the the first book. the and the The end of the story for Time Spiral, we still have.
00:31:38
Speaker
Then p Planar Chaos and Future Sight to kind of continue down this route. with Teferi as the main character the the whole time from what I recall. its I read all these books, but it has been while.
00:31:51
Speaker
I read them when they came out, and I don't think I've read them since then. Yeah. ah I never did get a hold of these books to read. They're not known as some of the best books in magic history. ah They definitely were on the downswing with the story going into this and then Which is all true. i I hadn't been reading a lot of story at that point.
00:32:19
Speaker
I had mostly taken a break from invasion until here. I came back in Ravnica, the block before this. But still, so like for me, and some of it, again, just there was so much nostalgia for me in this set, in this block.
00:32:35
Speaker
um One cool, I mean, there's some other, there's a lot of little details here. Like there isn't a ton for the story. That was the whole story summarization. um But there's so many weird little references to things. And one thing I want to point out too, that all three sets in this block their name came from a card.
00:32:57
Speaker
So there's only a handful of sets that have cards, or there's only a handful of sets and cards that have the same name. A lot of them are incidental, like Morning Tide, but this was an intentional... Well, yeah, and they've been done, and then there's some that are intentional, like Mirrodin Besieged got a card. Yep.
00:33:16
Speaker
Yep. And so theres there, there's some that are definitely, these, I think most of the time it happens, it's intentional. Um, but these are, these ones were definitely intentional that, um, time spiral is a card from Urza saga.
00:33:34
Speaker
Um, and then planar chaos and, and future site are both also cards that had been printed before the these sets came out. And so just looking at, think they,
00:33:46
Speaker
They did that very intentionally to try to, again, the the references run so deep in this set. The story has a lot of references back. That was kind of the whole point of this. They're touring Dominaria.
00:33:58
Speaker
This will get into it a little more in the next two sets um when they're going through and trying to close more of these rifts. They basically have a run through of all the different apocalypses, all the major events that happened before in Magic's history.
00:34:15
Speaker
got to get a little section in one of these three books to talk about, Hey, remember when the whole planet was almost destroyed because of this? Okay, cool. And now let's close that rift. And it's a succession of that until finally the the multiverse has had enough and just says, you know what, what if there weren't planeswalkers like this? What if planeswalkers couldn't just punch holes in reality? And if they were just like funny little people who could just hop around And we get, in fact, in this crew, we we get our first ah new planeswalker as well, which is which is kind of fun.
00:34:53
Speaker
So, yeah, I don't know. They're... Do you have anything else you want to talk about for this set? was just reading through, you know, if you check out the multiverse and reviewing for this, one of the things that ah they put at the end of their articles in trivia is trivia. And one of the things I like they called out is that Joyra calls Teferi planeswalker when she's angry with him, which he doesn't like at all because it's styled after Urza planeswalker.
00:35:22
Speaker
Yep. Just got to remind him how much he is like his mentor that he spent all those years working for. Yep. And Mentor, who he had like a very specific break with and is not a big fan of.
00:35:39
Speaker
I mean, like that was part of their conversation in the invasion set when Urza shows up. He's like, all right, you hear all the armies from you know the the lands that you're from, they're ready to fight the invasion? And he's like, yeah, how about you fight your own war and I take my people and we leave? Yeah.
00:35:56
Speaker
The folks who, at least Teferi has decided he is the protector of these folks, so he just phased them out instead. Yeah. Which just worked out so well for the multiverse.
00:36:09
Speaker
Yes. so like Maybe a little bit liker of maybe a lot more like than he wants to admit, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, there's oh, here's a fun like bolus reference to and and these it's like boluses discard your hand if you take damage, which is an ability from his original card um is represented the story as his touch causing seizures.
00:36:33
Speaker
kind of a neat ah neat thing. There is also a lot of weird continuity things too that also get talked about in this article. So I'll talk to Hobbs and and give him um this link and ask him to throw this in the in the show notes too. So if this is something you're super interested in, if you remember Time Spiral and enjoy it or just a big end of the story and weren't around then, this is there's a lot of interesting things here. And the the person who runs this ran this blog is Very, very thorough in linking things.
00:37:03
Speaker
So thank you to Squire. No, there's an L in there. Squirrel? I don't know how I would pronounce that. um For running this blog and posting all of this information. It's super helpful for us.
00:37:18
Speaker
It's great for community people. And i I know, like I found out about this from ah from my buddy Reinhard who used this to catch up on some story that he was missing when when he was doing some writing for for wizards for magic.
00:37:32
Speaker
And so this is cool. I'll throw this in the, in the notes, but I think that does it for this week. We'll come, you know, join us again. We'll,
00:37:43
Speaker
we're going to keep going through time spiral. Uh, at some point we will probably chaos is a weird set. That'll be a fun one to discuss. Yes. Yes. I'm really looking forward to planar chaos and, uh, future site is, is also a very, very bizarre set.
00:37:58
Speaker
So when we get to, when we get to talking about mechanics, um, that's going to be fun. And, and the story too, like the story, i can, I, I really liked these. I know that they're probably not great overall, but I liked them.
00:38:13
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