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K and I discuss growth, how we can adjust our perspective towards growing, some pitfalls and challenges we might face when we care about growth and some personal struggles we face in our own growth journey.
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Introduction and New Setup
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Hello. Hello. All right. I think we're good. Um, round three. So we're trying something new here. We have a new set. Yes. Um, I like it. It's not too bad. This is where we sit and do most of our chatting. Yes.
Value of Watching the Show
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Welcome. Um,
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Not this close normally. No, this is way too close. But. Yeah. So if you're just listening and you have no idea what we're talking about. Go to YouTube search. I guess it's Bill Anthony's. You can search. Or just podcast. Yeah. You'll be able to watch.
00:00:47
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The watching, I've gotten some feedback on the watching. Oh really? Yeah. And people have said that they enjoy watching it because they get to see some of the... Yeah, the expressions. The judgment and the criticism coming from you. I mean, mostly you don't have any expressions or facial. But you have a lot. I have a lot. So that adds value. Yeah. So there's that. There's that communication ad.
Humor and Holiday Party Ideas
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Um...
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update on the shirts. I think I had another idea. These shirts. I know. What was the one I came up with last night? I was really cracking myself up with it too. Okay. So I can answer that by telling you this. Uh, and we'll actually talk about this today about like progress and growth and stuff like that. I just got an office.
00:01:32
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I just rented an office. I just signed a lease for a... What does that have to do with the shirt though? Because I said I was gonna have an office holiday party. Yes. And I called it the company. I said a company holiday party. And you literally laughed in my face. I did. But was that the shirt? We're really struggling with our memory.
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We need to do those memory. No, it was then. Cause then you were saying about how I was going to invite people and lock everyone in and yeah, there was some sort of saw that type anyway.
Understanding Growth
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But yeah, so, so onto the topic today, we're talking about, I feel like we've been talking around. Obviously a lot of this podcast is about growth. I mean, that's kind of inherent in everything we're talking about. Um,
00:02:22
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But I think, you know, today we thought we would specifically look at like, well, how do you grow and what are maybe some things that like hold you back. And I think one of the common sentiments around growth or what people might experience is kind of like,
00:02:45
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Maybe it's not, it doesn't happen as fast as they like, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to make some changes. I want to grow. I want to like learn. I'm going to be this better version of myself. And then you get a couple months in and you're like, man, I'm kind of still still here. Still here. Still struggling with the same shit. I read that book. I listened to that podcast. I did the work, but man, like I'm still have the same problems. Yeah.
00:03:11
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And as we know, it's not just about reading a book or listening to a podcast, but even when you are working at growth, it's not an instant gratification situation. And there are different things that process that allow for.
00:03:27
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growth and different times and different people. And so that's kind of what we're talking about today. That's interesting. I never really thought of it like this before, but if you were to think about growth, like if you were to say, Hey, I experienced growth in this capacity, in this domain, let's just say nutrition. Hey, I think you should be closer. You think so? Yeah. I don't think so. Okay. Anyway, am I closer?
00:03:53
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Anyway, if you were to say, hey, I experienced growth in this pursuit. Right.
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I would submit that it's usually looked back at like it's retrospective It's it's in the past the growth occurred not I am growing bingo So I think when we look at that like hey, I want to have this growth And yeah, I'm speaking for myself right now like I want to have this growth I feel like I haven't grown as much as I want should that's a whole separate bag of worms, but I
00:04:29
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If we then kind of reach that friction point of questioning our growth, I think we can reposition and repurpose our perspective to be like, how am I growing right now? And I think comparing growth to growing,
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takes this big thing of growth and kind of chops it down into like, okay, I'm growing like the little, like the little plant, right? It might have like a little butter thing. It's not going to be a full on. It's not going from a seed to a tree overnight. Correct. That should be a shirt. Yes.
Personal Growth Experiences
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So one of the things we just to be transparent on this podcast, I think we try to do is offer some of our personal experience as a way to kind of let people in, describe, give, give a example, not just have it be like teaching, but like have a conversation about what we're experiencing. And I have found that
00:05:33
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often like listening to other people talk about their experience is helpful for me. Yeah, I agree. But the goal is for people to take that and apply it to their own experience. So you said, starting with kind of, if we're going to look at that growth, you recently got an office. Yes. Congratulations. Thank you.
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Talk to us about the office. What do you want to know about the office? What I want to know is when, so for you, let's talk about between the ears. That's like something you're looking at. That is something you're in the process of growing that as a business, as a, yeah, that's something that you have as a current like goal, something you're developing. You have goals for that. Yes.
00:06:29
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And so a lot has happened in the past year with that, but one of the things you kind of identified was this need for an office. Talk, talk about that. Yeah. So it wasn't, I don't think I actually said right away, like I needed office. I needed, I wanted a space to help facilitate some of the work that I need to do in a manner that works with how I work.
00:07:00
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Tried to do some stuff at the gym, not the right environment. Tried to do some stuff downstairs in the basement. Okay, good for tasks and stuff. But some of the more creative endeavors that I need to do and some of the writing and developing things out and just kind of letting it stew in a protected space.
00:07:27
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was absent. I've literally written the newsletter in the car, if people are coming over. It just felt like I didn't have any boundaries or any space that I could create as an environment to be that. That's not the kitchen table. That's not downstairs. That's not the bedroom.
00:07:49
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And when do you feel like you kind of realized this wasn't working? Like the situation you had set up for yourself was really not conducive to you making progress. When do you think you realize that? How long ago? I don't know. Not not it was not recent. It's been a while. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a while. So I would say probably since I probably over a year, probably closer to two to two years. And it was probably when
00:08:22
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Yeah, it was, well, I don't know. Yeah. It was probably about two years ago. So, you know, I think one of the things is with growth.
Challenges in Growth Journey
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So that, if you look at it as like, or in my mind, when I'm looking at like, okay, well, you want to grow between the ears. Okay. That requires that you do, there's some inherent work required to do that work. There has to be this environment that's conducive to that.
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And so you identify there's a problem. The solution to growing between the ears is find a better space. Seems simple. Yeah. Why do you think it took so long for you to actually sign a lease, like to call somebody up to look like I was thinking about the other day after you'd signed the lease, but just driving along on my way to the gym. And I must've seen 10 signs.
00:09:17
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little buildings, office release, office release. Yeah, because you're looking for them. Right. So it's not like we're looking for a new gym space where it's like, wow, that's going to be tough. So what do you think it was that kept you from, like, I know this is going to help between years grow, just do it. I think one of them was financial.
00:09:47
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And insecurities about that or being a bit more conservative say than you Maybe less of a risk taker in that regard Is that only financial? No, well, no, I mean just yeah, so I was thinking like okay, I'm between the ears It's no surprise like not a big moneymaker, you know, right? Like we're not gonna pay the house off with between the ears this year or anything It's not this year
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Definitely not this year. Definitely not this year. So I guess to say it's not like there's this steady stream of revenue, like a traditional business would have. Like you felt like you could
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What's the word? I don't know. I can't help you. Justify. Like, OK. Yeah, so like there's not like there's not as. My business can justify. Right. You didn't feel that way. Yeah. I didn't think that I was in a position, frankly, that I earned the right to have an office. Which is an interesting thing. Yeah. Earning and deserving things. Yeah, for sure. OK. So, you know, the easy thing to say is, well, there was a financial component, but it wasn't just about dollars and cents.
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So I felt like that was a consideration. I felt like I should, in air quotes, be able to
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if this is like kind of my best work and what I feel like is my purpose and a way to serve, like I should be able to do that. Anywhere. Anywhere. Yeah. And so I don't know if I would say pride or ego. I think, um, so I subscribed to probably a misleading belief or a false kind of litmus test kind of deal. Um,
00:11:41
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And then the other thing I think that's a big thing for you kind of to the point of like that we're going to, we've kind of hit on is one of the things you do struggle with is that, and you've said it like the paralysis by analysis. So all of those things just going around in circles into the decision-making matrix and not that combined with not being a risk taker and like not feeling like you deserve it, like which is funny about that.
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Yeah. And what's funny, like when I think about like not being a risk taker and then I do a quick check of things I've done in my life, it's like, okay, not necessarily true, but what it is with certain decisions where frankly, the risk isn't like, what's the greatest risk? Well, the greatest risk is that for getting this office that I'm out
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whatever, you know, the financial, the financial element, like really, like that's, yeah, that's the risk. That's really the only risk. And so you think it's cause the risk is actually too small. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's not like, like it's not like it's life or death and sometimes, and maybe this is because of my past experiences and just kind of levels of operation. Like talk to me when it's dire, talk to me when it's like, yeah, you said
Necessity for Change in Growth
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that was a lot of things. Like it's harder for you to,
00:13:03
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Yeah. If there was more of a dire situation, you'd probably just act. Like that's when I show up. Yeah. So part of like us talking about this is just the point of just because we know like areas of our growth or areas for growth. Okay. Like what can help us? It doesn't always mean it's an instant like, okay, now I know and now I'm going to act. So what was something that helped you finally
00:13:33
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Like, what do you think happened? What was that shift where you're like, okay, I'm gonna do this. Well, I would just, before I answer that, I would just echo what you said. And I, and I've said this to so many people, you, we've talked about a lot. It's not for lack of knowing. Yeah. And generally speaking, it's not for lack of information. Like we know a ton, we know a lot. That's the relationship between the rational mind and the emotional mind.
00:14:02
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And that highway, that exchange between the two, the translation, however we want to talk about the link between what we know and what we feel, that is where I think the gold is. Not like that kind of gold, but that's where the real essence of Between the Ears actually lies, is it's not about doing an event. It's not about all night stuff. I've had people think that I'm going to do crazy things, illegal things to them.
00:14:29
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That's not it's not that I'm not yelling at you. It's it's it's Providing the stage for you to see which what actors are rational which actors are emotional? What's the script like and like kind of that whole thing? So for me I think I I did not not gonna say like a hit rock bottom, but I really came to the
00:14:53
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I really came to feel, not know, but feel like there's no way I'm going to be able to push forward and accomplish what I want to do, which is ultimately serve people so that they can live a fully engaged life and progress and everything.
00:15:10
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if I don't make a change. Right. And so you were obviously an advocate for me getting an office. You've been pushing me. You've been suggesting it. You've been whatever. You talked to Jo, who talked to her person about an exchange. So I got a contact. But I got that contact like a month before I called. Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:34
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And then, um, whatever we were going through some stuff and just try to kind of find our way and make sense of what we're at, where we're at, what we're doing. You know, we're, we question a lot. And I think we talked about raising awareness last time as not always a good, like not always a pleasantry. Um, and so we're kind of on a continuous elevation of our own awareness. And so I was driving home from maybe coaching or maybe doing something. I don't know what it was. And, um,
00:16:04
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Yeah. Call the guy and said, Hey, can we meet? And he said, yeah, when are you free? So let's go tomorrow. And I pretty much knew whatever I first saw, I was going to sign because like, what is there, you know, like, Oh, yeah. And so, and I think like, as you said, like hitting rock bottom, I don't know that it's, um, like you said, it's not that you would did that. I think for some people, you do kind of get to eventually a fork in the road. And so sometimes you have to get to that point to really choose the growth, like,
00:16:34
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Okay, like I'm there because I think for you it was sort of like, okay, I know this thing could help me. I'm either going to choose it and see where I can grow or not and be like, I'm done. But like knowing that having like a little bit of a pivotal moment.
Creating a Growth-Conducive Environment
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So now I think what's cool is like, okay, so you're in that growth. It doesn't mean that now you got the office, you've just like had a day of like,
00:17:04
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everything just got instantaneously better. But you're you took a step forward. You're kind of in that you've set up the environment. You've set yourself up for success to then enable that growth and the things that follow. But it but it's interesting because it did take you kind of. Yeah.
00:17:22
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breaking free of some of the stuff you, you kind of always do like the paralysis by analysis or the, you know, not feeling like you deserve it. Like, well, I'm going to use this money for this and it could be used for something else. Like that's where, um, you know, you've gotten very familiar with those things because they've, oh, they've been there for a long time and kind of deciding. I don't think it's necessarily that those things go away, but building awareness around them and saying like, okay, I'm not going to choose to let that
00:17:53
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um, control my decisions. They might not be gone. Right. But that's the part that I think is, is super important to be very clear about. It's not to say I'm going to ignore those. Right. It's not to say I'm going to never have them occur because I can't, like they're going to happen and it's not going to avoid them.
00:18:21
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It's about being able to understand and work with them. And that is where the real power is. And that ability to objectively or as close to objectively as you can within yourself, have the awareness to recognize something, to see it for all that it is and all that it
Self-Awareness and Barriers
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isn't. And then make a decision.
00:18:44
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for your, for yourself. That in essence is really what all of this is about. Um, and so yes, when I start getting paralysis by analysis, like I am guilty as to, I am very much a victim of paralysis by analysis. I struggle with that tremendously.
00:19:06
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Why does it come up, this and that? Yeah, sure, I can rationalize away, but the fact remains, it's a consistent thing that I bump up against. So looking at life hacks and tips and tricks to avoid it,
00:19:24
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I'm not of the belief that avoiding things fixes them. Like then you're just playing hide and seek and you're always going to get found. This stuff is always going to find you, which is why I keep saying like you have to find yourself first and rediscover yourself, reintroduce yourself, get to know yourself better.
00:19:47
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I mean, so instead of ignoring it, it's it's seeing it. Yeah, and there's a whole there's using to Yeah, so not to simplify it, but for people that are thinking like, well, I have to like fix this before I can experience growth. I think that's
00:20:02
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That's the trap. Yeah, that's the trap. And there's just things, you know, recently we had one of the calls for the practice and someone kind of, we were discussing that about kind of when you journal, like, man, the same thing. And, you know, looking back, like I'm still,
00:20:20
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dealing with this and it's been however many years. It's still there. And I think once you can kind of accept that and know that it's not like growth can't happen until you fix that because that's not realistic. Yeah. And then you look into, yeah, it's not realistic. You know, and this morning when I was journaling, I
00:20:42
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I wrote some stuff that I'm like and I even wrote like Wow, I am still questioning this stuff. I'm still writing about this stuff
00:20:53
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It might sound like a broken record, but it's not. It's not. And the fact that you're repeating it is potentially what you have to do to, to look at it through all different angles, through all different parts of life. Um, cause you've changed. Your life has changed. And could you imagine not
00:21:19
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cleaning that out, not addressing that? What are you going to do? Are you just going to bury it? Bury it. Bury it. Bury it. Bury it. Bury it. And then finally it becomes like a zombie that comes up and ruins your life. Yeah. And you know, I get it. Like that happens. And you are not either casting judgment on that. We're here just with like a big old spotlight though saying like, hey,
00:21:46
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we might be able to find our way. And yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I'm thinking of like, okay, so what are current in terms of like, well, how, what are things we do? The other piece of that is what's interesting is like, there's things we know that help us to do that.
00:22:03
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to uncover and flush out those things, and often we avoid them. Maybe it's journaling. Maybe it's taking a day off. Maybe for me, and we've talked about this, for me, the thing that helps me a ton is going for a walk, usually in the woods somewhere,
00:22:28
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that's sort of free of people taking the dogs. Usually not with other people, not, not even with you, like just by myself and for an hour, just kind of letting thoughts come, not judging
Avoidance of Helpful Actions
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them. Sometimes I actually talk out loud to myself, but just like flushing that stuff out. And there'll be days where it's like a beautiful day. It's not like my schedule is packed. Why don't I go do that? And it's like, I don't know.
00:22:55
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Well, why don't you? Like, like just wondering. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, then there's like, well, I could do this, I could do that. I should be doing something sort of like to your point, like, I could be working. Is that really the most valuable thing to do? Stop my life, spend an hour and a half walking the dogs. Cause then when I come back and then there's the kids and then, you know, you go through that thing. So some of that, and some of it is really like,
00:23:20
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To be honest, like, I don't know if I want to look at it right now. Like what, what am I going to uncover? What, what am I going to, but surely not every time you go for a walk, it's like this. No, but I'm not sure why laziness. Like I really have no idea, but there's things we know that help. Um, like why people know they should exercise. Why don't they? Yeah. Well, um,
00:23:47
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Yeah. I don't know. Good luck. Fine. Like, like you can figure that one out. Yeah. So I think it's also just highlighting it's normal to figure out what works for you and still be like, Oh my gosh. Like every time people embark on eating well, right? This is like a great example. Okay, fine. People are like, I'm going to eat well.
00:24:06
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Um, you know, a lot of people at the gym like a challenge. They like a group they like, and I, and I understand it. They need, we, as people need like that camaraderie, like I'm going to commit I'm accountable. And then inevitably somebody falls off the wagon. Um,
00:24:25
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you know, and it's that on and off. But what's funny is when people get back into it, they're like, wow, like, this feels great. I feel great. Why did I not eat well before? Why did I stop this? Yeah.
00:24:38
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But it happens, right? We all and it's like, man, or everyone falls off. I mean, that was one of the podcasts a couple of times ago. We talked about the value of getting back on, you know, hopefully you don't like break every bone in your body when you fall off. But to the extent that you like are taking care of yourself, that's going to hedge that. I think that, um,
00:25:04
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And this is just my observation. When we really measure it, and when we're really like all of these criteria and rubric and the decision making matrix, it's set up to fail. And why should you go walk? Well, so anyway, so when we measure, we look at time and comparison.
00:25:33
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The third one would be a number in there. So times and for like the gym or whatever, but like metrics. Am I really going to go walk for hour and a half? Okay. Boom. You've already sort of like put a, put a metric to it, put a number to it. When I could be doing, so now you've compared and is it going to, you know, be the best use of my time. So we're back to the time thing.
00:26:01
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take that, run that through. If you know something, if you're listening to this and you know, like you know something that helps you, but you also know you're not doing it. Like be honest with the decisions of why and be okay with yourself too. Like this isn't to like, you know,
00:26:27
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self defeat yourself. This is this is to grow those decisions to not do something that you know is going to be helpful for you. Apply the lens of am I assigning numbers comparing or you know I mean really that's the big like the big two numbers and comparing um
00:26:51
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And then consider what would it look like without those? So instead of putting, and that's the rat, those are rational things. Doing work is better than walking in the woods, not doing work. That's like a rational, um, comparison and way to stratify like value.
00:27:09
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Which is really like, that's part of current, at least where we live.
Re-evaluating Personal Decisions
00:27:16
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Everything is like efficiency, maximizing. It is a rubric. It is. And it's a, and I'm going to write the next, I'm going to write the newsletter about this, but like I'm tired of saying, of hearing and saying how busy we are.
00:27:32
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I'm absolutely tired of it. And I'm going to throw up a challenge out there for the rest of the year. Stop saying busy. Now, if it was like was if somebody says, hey, was it a busy weekend? I would even say, don't say yes. Tell them use an attribute. Busy is just a meaningless nothing word. What does that mean? What does it mean? Anyway, so we're doing something or we're not doing something that we know is good for us.
00:28:01
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What's it look like? What's the environment within myself? What's the communication, the self-communication that's present when I don't do something I know I should do? If you can find a number, if you can find a comparison, it'd be like, oh, interesting. So let's do something one of us have plans to do. Okay. That we didn't do yet. Okay. Skydiving. Okay. Still haven't got my license. So that's something you've been wanting to do. For three years. Yeah.
00:28:32
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So that, but that one, like, okay, the, the number is like financial. Yeah. What's the comparison? I compare the time and the prioritization. If I'm going to go re-get my license. So I like skydiving experienced at it, but not on the civilian side.
00:29:02
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Am I really going to spend weekends and nights jumping out of airplanes when I could be growing between the ears, coaching at the gym, helping out with dinner, watching the dogs, you know, driving the kids around like, so am I really going to prioritize this activity, which there's no real direct rational gain. Right.
00:29:30
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But it brings me tremendous joy and clarity. Which you can't really measure. And I can't measure it. And what's funny about that is there is nothing else that provides that same feeling, that same experience than it is when you're in free fall. For me. For me. Some people, that's knitting, it's shooting, it's archery, it's whatever. So some of growth for you, I think what's interesting is
00:30:00
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and for everybody is like sure identifying some of the things that one like what what you're not doing that you know will help you grow and for you like so this the skydiving like part of the growth in that is probably back to the original thing with the office is feeling like
00:30:20
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it would help you grow a tremendous amount if you felt like you deserved things. Yeah. Like on a personal side. And also that does spill into your work. So yeah, that's really like the growth. And so looking at that matrix of like, okay, well, so is growing worth it to me and
00:30:41
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Not that it's about getting it back to a number, but ironically, skydiving, which you can't measure your happiness or, okay, I just gained 20 points of more in like the self-deserving bucket. Ironically, those kinds of things, being joyful, being happy, celebrating yourself will probably result in some positive things that actually ironically are measurable.
00:31:07
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Right. And there's also something about, well, you said two things, but there's one thing about like, if that is really then a hobby and if that is something that I, that I do value and do want to experience, I mean, for us, like boundaries practically don't
Finding Joy and Fulfillment
00:31:22
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exist. So that's a struggle.
00:31:25
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So this is something totally out of the norm, you know, with the, the F your fun shirt or whatever, or no fun. And this has been something we've talked about for a long time, but it's like, I don't find fun. I don't find what norm, what reg, what people generally will say is fun is fun often.
00:31:44
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Like going out for a drink. Yeah. Going dancing. Right. Hanging out. I like hanging out. It depends. But like, yeah, I don't know, like parties. Like, oh, that was so much fun.
00:31:57
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What was fun about it? I'm not really sure. I don't dance. I do dance again. This is two episodes in a row. I do dance. I created dance. Rachel can confirm. Anyway. Um, but, but what is fun to me is like doing something involving the body is something that's like connecting to something a little bit deeper. So like, yeah, for me, for me, jumping out of a plane is a tremendous amount of fun.
00:32:24
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And that's only like a fraction of why I like it. But the deserving. So I've been like working on some thoughts and writings with around deserving things. And yeah, that's a big, big, that's a deep one. Yeah, that's a deep one. And that's not like to our point before it's not you plant the
00:32:46
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deserving seed. Like I want to feel like I deserve things. And then you put the seed in the ground and there's the tree. Like, wow, I now feel like I deserve things. This uncomfortable process of growing into feeling like you deserve things. Yeah. Like do you deserve to grow? Because if sometimes I struggle with feeling like I don't deserve things, right? That's what we're saying. So then do I feel like I also don't deserve to grow?
00:33:17
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I don't know. No, right. So I don't, but then it's like, well, then what's going on with deserving and right. So you're finding different actions, different things, um, outlets to build that. And so skydiving is one of them. Getting an office is another one, not to change it completely, but like the growth piece, I think we do, people do,
Life Experiences and Growth
00:33:43
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Like sometimes I, I'll speak for myself when I think about growth, it's like so heavy. Yeah. It's like, Oh my God. And as we say, Oh, it's work and so heavy. And you know, like whenever that was two years ago and we started the become thing a year and a half anyway, like, so that's a,
00:34:09
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side business become like BK, our initials, actually, and Olivia and Marcus, which is funny, BKOM. So the O has that like line through it. And that's like a nod to the Norwegian culture. It's a Norwegian letter. Well, one of the reasons that is interesting about that is like that business, that entity is around
00:34:36
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providing growth for people by way of experiences. Yeah. And growth is like, yeah, learning, but there's, it's not, it's in the, it's a little less heavy. Sure. And so I think it's like, whether you, you know, that's just, what's cool about that is, you know, recently I've kind of become more passionate about it as a result of feeling like, yes, I need more of that for my own growth. I need more,
00:35:05
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enjoyment, experience, like really appreciating what's out there, what's around me. And yeah, the boundaries and the busy, all that stuff is kind of getting in the way of that. Yeah. And so growth for me right now is both some of the heavier stuff, like looking at some of the failure points, looking at, you know, journaling, like discovering, but it's also in the like experiences, like
00:35:33
Speaker
embark making those decisions to grow in ways that aren't measurable. Like, but that's okay, I'm gonna go on a hike. I'm gonna go on a hike every week. Sure. Well, show me how that's gonna help Morristown get new members. Yeah, where's the data? Where's the science? I don't know. But, but if I'm feeling
00:35:55
Speaker
Like I'm taking time for myself, I'm more fulfilled. I, you know, actually what's funny is in that, in the become newsletter, my first one. Very nice. There's actually an article that points to the Norwegian expression or concept of, it's called like free air life. That's the literal translation. Free air life. Yeah. And
00:36:21
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What it is, is this like cultural thing from when Norwegian babies, kids are like damn near just able to like walk. But even before then they're in pack packs. They're exposed to nature. Yeah. That is part of their upbringing, right? No matter who you are, even if you're a little less fit, more fit, older, younger, everybody gets out there. And because there's this like,
00:36:46
Speaker
thing with nature that does help us as humans there's another word for it in English that's about nature connecting that they talked about at the do but like so what are some of those growth things too like considering all of the things it's not just a
00:37:01
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It's 360 degrees of like what helps you grow, not just the like, all right, let me like do the work, get the book, read the thing, listen to the podcast. Uncover, uncover, you know?
Redefining Growth Approaches
00:37:12
Speaker
Right, yeah. No, that's a good point. The heaviness of growth can be, or the perceived heaviness of growth can certainly be a turnoff. And you know, I think that's one of the things I'm trying to back away from or undo a little bit with Between the Ears, because at first it was like,
00:37:29
Speaker
I don't know what I'm getting into but like somebody approaching it would would assume it's gonna probably be crazy hard and whatever and yell and scream and you know I had a skull and crossbones as the as the logo like that didn't exactly do any favors. There was some blood on the between the ears flag. Remember that? Yes. At least it was my blood.
00:37:59
Speaker
Anyway, you threw me off. Yeah, so it's like, oh God, I want to get better, but I don't want to do some crazy shit. It's honestly not. And I think that trying to write that now, hey, initial impressions and stuff, my parents used to tell me, you only get one time to make a first impression.
00:38:25
Speaker
And I think there's a lot of validity to that, but then you also have, um, you can also try to change the story, change the story a little bit and have that. So, but anyway, the heaviness of the growth, um, yeah, if, if, if, I guess if the topic of personal growth is so heavy, then it's like, okay, let's just like step away from it a little bit and, and rethink about it of,
00:38:56
Speaker
What's something that I can, how can I make a small change for a big impact that, yeah, helps my life enhance. Yeah. And I think when it comes to growth, also the way people view growth is that, um, I have to.
00:39:15
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build something, grow something from nothing or something that is not already there. And that's not necessarily true. And what that article about in the become newsletter I really liked was that the Norwegians also have this way. And I think the quote, one of the paragraphs said this is like, they live in a land that is beautiful. They've been given that.
00:39:43
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How dare you squander that? How dare you like complain that it's not a tropical island. Yeah. Well, you're in the Arctic circle, but it's beautiful. So to tell, to complain about the lack of palm trees is not cool. And they really honor that. And they really, are you crying?
00:40:03
Speaker
No, I just got like emotional. Oh my God. Um, so it's this watery discharge coming out of your eyes.
Impact of Comparison on Growth
00:40:12
Speaker
Um, and so for them to, for them to say we have, as human beings, we have a duty to, to respect this land, honor this land and, and have free air life or whatever. Um, that is amazing to me. And,
00:40:29
Speaker
But what's funny about that is we do that kind of stuff like, and we're guilty of it. Like instead of looking at the positives, instead of looking at what we have, it is a huge, I mean, it sounds obvious, like no shit, but like.
00:40:45
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Yeah. Talk about stunting your growth when all you're going to do is look at what's missing in the scarcity. Yeah. Well, we don't live in Norway. Right. So F that like it's not, I'm not traversing a fjord and looking at the like feeling like I'm on top of the world when I go to Jackie Hollow. Right.
00:41:05
Speaker
But is that what I'm going to, is that really what I'm gonna focus on? But that's when you go back to the fucking comparison. And that's a comparison, it's a stratification, it's a filing, it's a number, whatever it is, there's some sort of a metric there versus being like, I am in the presence of,
00:41:24
Speaker
a thousand species right now that if I were to actually think like, how did they get here? It would blow my mind. So we do have that. And so, you know, what can you like? So the comparison thing, because I think that's a huge thing that just stifles. So we identified like, yeah, growth can be limited by like the metrics, the comparison. Like that's something I definitely like. That's that's a huge barrier for me.
00:41:53
Speaker
What and so the thing is not to just like ignore it. No, like while I used to I used to whatever that is. A lot of times it's comparing to ourselves. What is the strategy or like so so it's not ignoring it. But like to grow beyond comparison comparing to other people comparing to your own things comparing to whatever.
00:42:19
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I mean, don't you agree that comparison is, yeah, I mean, it was a comparison is the thief of joy, right? I mean, not like what's the fix for it. I mean, I understand that, but like, yeah. Okay. So going through that process, identifying it, and then you just kind of identify it, but identify like, okay, I'm making a comparison and I want to focus on the present instead, or on me, or like, what's the,
00:42:50
Speaker
Okay. So, so like I, you know, I mean, you can use an example or not. I'm not sure you actually asked me a question. I did. Do you want to rewind? Rewind. Rewind. How old are you? You're showing your age, Campbell. Yes. We can use our fingers to roll the cassette back. Yeah. The cassette back. Oh my God.
00:43:17
Speaker
I'm going to make you a mixed tape after this. Yes, the jewel case. It's just going to be all like Alice in Chains. Good. So I think let me just see if I interpreted your question right.
00:43:35
Speaker
If you find you're getting into a scenario where you're kind of becoming just paralyzed by comparison or you're beating yourself up because you are like, cool, I've got the awareness part of I'm comparing. I see that I'm using numbers and better than or worse than or not worth it or whatever. And it's really hampering my growth. And it's really hampering my growth. How can I write the ship?
00:44:03
Speaker
Well, obviously I don't know for like hypothetical person what, what is happening there. But one of the ways that I have found it to be helpful personally and in some clients is that when we're in that, okay, we're in our rational head. Okay.
00:44:29
Speaker
Look at your son. Okay. He loves it. Okay. Come on. Not everybody's watching this. When, when you're in that you're in your noise was our dog. Yes. I'm sorry. You're in your rational head. Okay. All right. Even though you might feel frustrated that you're not making progress or that you've lost progress, you're still very much like in your rational mind. Okay. Okay. So.
00:44:58
Speaker
It's happening in your head. There's these numbers and quantifying this. Let's look at the gym. I used to lift 400 pounds. Now 200 pounds is hard.
00:45:16
Speaker
Okay, that's like the little stimulus that you're in that's driving this I'm not good enough, I'm whatever. That's the metric that's telling you you're bad. Yes, there's a metric. There's a number. Yeah, there's a number or there's a greater than or less than type comparison that originates in your rational mind and pushes you to fabricate some feeling or some emotion.
00:45:45
Speaker
And again, this isn't like advice, but this is just something I think that can be helpful rather than focusing on the action of what's happening or the comparison, like the lift, like the lift. Yeah. Um, instead look to connect to an attribute because an attribute like, so what would that be with lifting with this example?
00:46:11
Speaker
Okay. So let's just say you're, you had a 400 pound back squat, but it looked awful. Not even that you squatted 400 pounds. You maybe had an injury, maybe had a kid, maybe had a life change, maybe got sick of squatting, maybe whatever. Maybe you did want to re vote, refocus on your technique and come back onto the bar and you're like, all right, 200 pounds. Damn. Like that was hard.
00:46:42
Speaker
I used to do double that and the comparison of the numbers and the whatever, instead if you were to focus on an attribute about yourself, like you are here right now working on your squat. You are being resilient given your situation that you've been through come from whatever. You are committed to moving your body
00:47:11
Speaker
with good mechanics so that you can be healthy for the rest of your life and not be in a chair. So looking at the attribute and then what is the attribute? What is the attribute slash like what's a feeling that kind of drives that attribute within you like a virtue or something? Not I'm not as strong. Strength is a measurement. Like that's not like that is not the thing.
00:47:36
Speaker
So looking at the attribute also requires you to take a very humanistic and personal approach.
Women's Unique Growth Challenges
00:47:43
Speaker
And the only way you can identify an attribute is to go within yourself and within there is like comparisons don't don't exist. There's not, they, they certainly can, but like they're not driven by external data, numbers, comparisons, metrics, that kind of a thing.
00:48:04
Speaker
It's an easy thing to say, but like, yes, you're no lesser of a human being because you can execute a movement in the gym. And I think that that is like very well kind of understood. The gym is also a little bit of, I think, low hanging fruit, but I mean, it's the space we're in, but it's very real.
00:48:21
Speaker
Yeah. One of the major things like especially for women is like I used to be leaner, thinner, whatever. And that is a paralyzing thing because there's constant comparison. There's constant metrics. There's how your clothes fit. That's what you look like. There's what people say. And you might be someone that
00:48:49
Speaker
didn't really enjoy living life counted every nut you ate and looked like super lean. But now you're maybe not as lean and you're enjoying having living life you have you have a piece of cake at a birthday party you're learning to like, you know, but but identifying like, okay, that comparison like what so the attribute is like,
00:49:14
Speaker
valuing myself for more than my leanness, enjoying life. Yeah. And I would say like, look at your, look at the attribute attribute characteristic virtue. Like let's not get spun up on the word, like the, the, the semantics look within yourself.
00:49:33
Speaker
and identify some, and identify basically who you are and who you are being. You don't say I'm, I'm being a weaker person. Like you understand, like that's just clumsy. That's not happening. If you go, if you look to go within and be like, I'm going to attach to, or I'm going to open up that emotional
00:49:54
Speaker
mind and look at that and like you can find something because where you are you you're there you can find something I guarantee you you can find something positive something wholesome something that reflects and is representative and you can find who you are
00:50:14
Speaker
You might have to look hard. You might have to sift through like, Nope, not that. Nope, not that. And that's where the mindset component of it being a form of self-communication is the guide. Um, I never paid attention to.
00:50:34
Speaker
how much women said, I want to get my pre-baby body back until you really kind of like came back from birth fit and we started doing that. And I don't, I, I, you don't know anything. I literally do not know anything. Okay. Okay. Go on. What I was going to say was,
00:51:05
Speaker
I try to not speak as if as an authority or as a pining on something because like I don't want to, I don't want to be misunderstood or honestly speak ignorantly or whatever, but like.
00:51:22
Speaker
you're never going to get your pre-baby body back. And I don't, like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't want to be like the man speaking to the, like, there's a lot of that stuff going on right now. Physiology you've had, you've given birth to a child. You are right. So it's like, so it's like, you're never going to get your pre puberty, right? Like you want to get your pre baby body back. So are you going to trade your baby in? Right. Because that would like, if we're going logically, that's what would be required. So like,
00:51:50
Speaker
Right. And then that is, I mean, and that's where like, for me, the birth fit stuff is, as I've talked about, like really opened a lot of things up for me in terms of like the women's stuff, not just with like postpartum women, but you know, we've talked about this, how women are definitely just different, their set of experiences. And then you add maybe moms as a subcategory of that. And like, you just look at that, the note, the, the comparison, that's just, sure.
00:52:20
Speaker
Like, sure, that logically, it's like, okay, I know that, but there's a lot wrapped up in there. And so now you've gone through a pregnancy, your body has done... Literally the most amazing thing. Yeah, but like, it's changed in talk about growth, like every day your body is changing, every day you feel different.
00:52:38
Speaker
how you feel inside, outside, how you look, like all the stuff you're, you are completely out of control of what's happening for nine months. But you also satisfy the entire purpose that you're here on this fucking earth. Yes. But, but like I'm just saying, but I'm saying just because, but that's, that's back to the rational thing. Like that's fine. You can say like, wow, this is amazing. I'm, I'm,
00:53:01
Speaker
creating a human you can still you're still out to feel like wow I look like so swollen and like I'm not I'm not discounting that I'm just saying though like I'm highlighting the thing that like rationally you look at them like you just made a miracle you were right so I think so there's but yeah it's like this like
00:53:22
Speaker
Right. And then there's, and not to do this, but there is a lot of societal pressure until I think recently they were like trying to change that. But like, yeah, the expectation. Right. Like, there wasn't even.
00:53:39
Speaker
Like, you know, like, like the, like the father or the man or whatever, like, I don't want to know about all that other stuff. Like, well, you just birthed a human out of a crevice. So there's probably some stuff that's going to happen, but like, just keep that to yourself. Like, don't, we don't, we just want to see the nice, the female, the feminine, the woman, like all the good stuff of being a mother. So I think that,
00:54:05
Speaker
there's a lot there with women and their experiences and and then comparison and and that's like a huge to kind of go back to what we're talking about for women like not to categorize people and I'm sure men have a whole category of kind of general like growth but for women like that is a huge thing of an area for growth to like not do the comparison what I was like before I had kids after I had kids
00:54:33
Speaker
women, I talked to someone recently that a friend and member and BTE, you know, practice person, talking about women and responsibility, and how that's such a tough thing. And so I think there's a whole set of like, nothing's as simple as like, just, well, I'll just identify that I'm comparing and move on. And so I think there's like a lot of growth around
00:55:04
Speaker
you know, looking at all those things, comparison, and we're, you know, okay, like, what am I comparing? Is it to myself? Is it to all these other people? I mean, yeah, that's a whole, we keep saying this, but that's, that's, that's probably a podcast that I should do on my own. But yeah, like, you know, Olivia recently had kind of a little tiff with her two girlfriends. And you and I talked about it that like,
00:55:31
Speaker
That's just the beginning. Yeah. Females, women. You guys are ruthless. Yeah. There's like a ruthless element. And so of course that comparison, you're, you're comparing to yourself, you're comparing to them. There's always this comparison going on. So I think, yeah, that's a lot. There's a lot of growth to be had just in that in general.
00:55:53
Speaker
comparing how you look, how you're mothering, how good your lunch looks. I mean, people, there's a whole thing. It's like posting their lunch, the lunches that you made for your kid on Instagram so that basically everybody else can feel bad if they didn't, if they don't have a bento box of organic, grass fed, paleo, whatever for their child. So anyway, just, I think the comparison thing is definitely like,
00:56:22
Speaker
a big one, and especially for, you know, for women, and that's been that's been something for me to like you said, not to ignore, but to look at that like rational versus finding an attribute about myself.
00:56:37
Speaker
to make some... Yeah, so focusing on when that happens. Don't look at the action. Look at the attribute. Find an attribute within yourself. And it's hard. It's like, oh yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, okay.
Mind-Body Connection in Growth
00:56:54
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Do it then. And I think that that's also part of what
00:57:03
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That's I think an untapped element of our day to day that we can do, that we can actively jump into a little bit more. Um, and I think part of it is the practice between the ears strives to uncover some of this and then provide opportunities to kind of like then spread the seed and water it and watch it grow or not or whatever. Um,
00:57:32
Speaker
And I think that where we're sort of movement also is a way to do that because it is such, there is so much tied in the body and the mind are connected. And when we do tap into certain types of movements, we get these experiences. The Chinese have been talking about this for thousands of years.
00:57:56
Speaker
mapping the body and all of that. And that's what like Richard at the strong fit, he's like all into that. Um, but yeah, like they've like the, the Eastern arena, not just the change, but like the Eastern, uh, cultures, you know, and, and we look at movement and frankly, a lot of it's external ego. Yeah.
00:58:15
Speaker
And so there's so much there. And I think that what we're doing more and more of is getting into that and trying to share that and really like working with people who they're like, Hey, I want to feel like I can, I want to feel like I'm good. It's like, right. We have to have a couple of questions.
00:58:34
Speaker
Not even a couple questions. A couple things that we need you to do. We need you to sleep and recover. We need you to fuel yourself fairly well. We need you to move. We need you to pause. And we need you to have some time for yourself.
00:58:49
Speaker
And that's a lot. That's actually really hot. That is a lot. Those aren't like, yeah, I got it. Right. It's not like, yeah, but you know what's better? 60 days to flat apps. Right. Boom. I can just, I can just, I can just take that off the shelf and whatever. And it's like, yeah, sorry. So when we then look at things like where's the numbers and the comparison of the data, well, the measurements, it's like, right.
Critique of Metric-Driven Growth
00:59:13
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Because it's all marketed as.
00:59:15
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number result number result number of promise number promise and it's like really yeah and that's that is the interesting thing with growth like so working with like Kyla from strong fit that metric and starting to look at like when you have the wrong metric I mean that's what you're saying like
00:59:34
Speaker
The metric isn't like you're looking in the wrong place, basically. Yeah. Okay. Starting to. Did you met, did you count your reps today? No, what is funny? So we worked out and that's been something I've been doing is not, we've been trying to like no data. Yes. But for having done data for now 20 years, counting three sets of 12 or 50 box jumps, whatever. And we've talked about this too. Like the mind likes to count. So like, I would like count and I'm like, why am I counting? I don't need to count.
01:00:03
Speaker
But like, like, so I wasn't adding up, but I might start back at one and like, one, two, three, like, why am I counting? So, but I don't know in the past, I would have gone to my spreadsheet and, um,
01:00:22
Speaker
and entered in all my little numbers and there they are in the sheet, you know, and you know, as well, like I've gone back. I have all my numbers. I have all my benchmarks and times and going back and being like, wow, I recently, not that recently, but did some 400s or something. And like, what's funny about that is, or no, I know what it was. It was Nate. We did Nate. Yeah.
01:00:48
Speaker
Uh, we programmed it for the gym. Yeah. This was maybe like last year. Yeah. I remember it was hot out and I felt really good about it. I felt like, wow, I really like felt my glutes felt my hamstrings and that kettlebell swing. You know, sometimes you can feel, I can feel like the kettlebell is in charge and I felt like I'm, I'm like moving this thing. My muscles felt good. I felt really good about myself. It's like, wow, that's great. Nice.
01:01:18
Speaker
Then I started thinking, I wonder, I wonder if that was like the best Nate score I ever got. Right. Was it? Was it? And then I'm like, well, I have that number. Right. I'm going to go back. Got my computer. Right. Find Nate. Found it. Wasn't the best score. I had done it with you and all those feelings. I was like, wow, I suck. Yeah. Like that's literally what my process was. And then I'm thinking this is insane. What did you feel?
01:01:49
Speaker
So when, if you remember, and if you're like, Hey, I don't know that, then don't answer. But when I actually felt like I did, when you felt like you did well, what was that? Like, what were some emotions? I felt strong. I felt like I worked hard. I felt like I had been, um, like my movement was good. You know, I felt like the effort, I felt like I was some of the attributes, probably like hardworking, committed.
01:02:13
Speaker
you know, like persistent, I was persevering, like all that stuff. And I was. And for sure, because you felt it. But then you looked at the action and compared and completely dismissed the attributes that were very much real. Because a spreadsheet said that you did two more rounds. And here's the thing, not that it, and it doesn't,
01:02:39
Speaker
even if each of those movements were exactly the same, the point still remains, I shouldn't have done the comparison, or that's not helping. But what's funny about that is, I'm pretty sure, actually, if you, and the reason we've said this with comparison in the gym, for example, or not in the gym, that's a problem is it doesn't, when you narrow it down to just a number, there's so much not accounted for. Like, I can tell you for a fact,
01:03:05
Speaker
my kettlebell swings probably were actually like good kettlebell swings. They actually were probably over my head and I actually used my hamstrings. My heels stayed down, all that stuff. Like it's not, it's not a full picture either of like your progress. And we've talked about that as it relates to the gym. I want to do a benchmark. I want to see, and you've said like, yeah, it'd be funny if we did like a, you get like a number for quality of movement. Oh, I want to do it. And the reason for that is partly because you're kind of like,
01:03:36
Speaker
a little bit of an asshole with that, but excuse me. So like if you do Cindy, but your squats are shitty and your pushups are crap. Yeah. You didn't do it. No, I'm sorry. You're getting like, yeah, you got 15 rounds, but like a minus 10. That's your, no, no, no, no. What's your, what's it's called? It's a multiplier quality of movement multiplier. So you got like really a two or something. What? No, you would have gotten a 0.1. Okay.
01:04:03
Speaker
So if you got 15 rounds of Cindy, but your moves like an asshole, I would have said, Hey, nice job on flailing around. You just turned yourself
Storytelling and Personal Growth
01:04:10
Speaker
a 0.1. So what if you moved really well, impeccable movement was like, then you get a one, then you earn, then that's the score. Then you get a one. Got it. So the point in that is someone doing Cindy for the first time ever, or, you know, just not
01:04:27
Speaker
not knowing like good mechanics, and then they repeat it. They still got the same score, but it's not at all the same. So we can't just look at the numbers. Here's the thing. When we compare, we do math. It's a math problem. All it is is a math equation. All right. You were a 10.
01:04:43
Speaker
You look back and shit, you were at 12, 12 minus 10 to whatever, or 10 minus 12, whatever. It's a math problem. However, it's not just a math problem because then we create a fucking English and a literacy problem. And we have this whole writing about it and we create this story. And it's like, no, if you're going to compare, then like, and you're going to compare. Hmm.
01:05:08
Speaker
But if I were to say, hey, what's the difference between calculus and war and peace? You would be like, those are two totally different things. And yet, when we compare, it's not just about the, oh, objectively, data-wise, I was this, I was that, buh-buh-buh, graph, chart, math. It's like, okay, there's the math. And then there's this novel
01:05:37
Speaker
this story being written to talk about that. And it's like, it doesn't happen. Math is. So like to kind of bring it back. Yeah. Let's wrap this up. So growth. I mean, that was like our thing. I think you and I, different areas that we can focus on, but some of the things too, um,
01:06:00
Speaker
that we're sort of saying is one, it's not an overnight thing. No, it takes time. Two is yep. It's also an act active. It's an active. It's an active thing. And we can improve, I think by just checking ourselves when we're looking at it pro retroactively or in the past. And some of the things that you struggle with, yes, they will probably continue to
01:06:24
Speaker
be there not to ignore them but to identify them and then this sort of looking at the metrics and the comparison and how much that's kind of getting in the way. Yeah I think if you feel like you're not making growth or if you feel like you're
01:06:41
Speaker
at like a sticking point and not moving forward, I would suggest, take a look, how much numbers are in there and how much comparison is happening. And not even from a personal, it's not even personal comparison. It's like going for a walk in the woods is not a good use of my time. That's a comparison.
01:07:03
Speaker
So I think it's interesting for us to look at some of the stuff after this call, after this podcast about like, what, like that's an interesting exercise. My sister who listens had said it would be cool to suggest like an exercise or a homework or a writing thing. Okay. With the podcasts. Okay, cool. Kind of like you do with the newsletter. Yeah. And I guess for this, that would be an interesting exercise for someone to do is to look at like,
01:07:33
Speaker
Am I in a growth process? Do I feel like I'm in that like, yes, I'm growing? Like, what would lead me to believe that? Okay. Or, wow, I've kind of feel stagnant.
01:07:44
Speaker
Am I falling into that kind of like I'm busy like if you can't really remember what happened last week Maybe you're just trending towards like I'm just kind of yeah three things kind of comes mind as it relates to what we just talked about one is What's and this is for you to explore? Yeah, I don't know. No, we don't have the answer What's the difference? between growth and growing
01:08:09
Speaker
Like for you in your life. Write about it. What's the difference between growth and growing? Number two, looking at if you feel like you're not growing or you haven't experienced growth or whatever, can you, or no, correction, if you know maybe like what you want to grow in,
01:08:36
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And if you know what's good for you, but you're not actioning it.
01:08:41
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Can you try to replay the tape or over the next week, be aware of the conditions at play when you decide to do not act? What does that conversation look like? So like me not going to for a walk in the woods, just being aware of like what's happening. Yeah. Like why did you not walk? And it's, and it's not a, um, it's not a judgment, but it's just, yeah, it's not a judgment. And in the coaching profession, they say, don't ask why. Cause it gets people defensive.
01:09:12
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Not, you're not on trial right now. All right. But like, what was the situation? What was the environmentals?
01:09:21
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What were you thinking? Yeah. What was the conversation like? So that's two. That's two. Two B would be like, are there numbers and comparisons within there? Okay. Three, how can you, how can you, um, focus on and express attributes, not just actions when we're in this kind of a thing?
01:09:44
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Or like look back at some of the times you're like man. Yeah, like I know I said I was gonna go to the gym, but I remember blah blah blah Okay, if you're not like What are some instead of looking at the action or the non-action? What are some attributes? That you can express there and yes, you're going to it's going to drive an action. So don't get me wrong This isn't about like just you know Feeling good stuff. It's going to drive an action
01:10:15
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And I'll just say like that's why these life hacks things are full of shit, you know Oh, all you have to do is put your running put your running shoes Next to your bed and get dressed and like yeah that might help But that's not the fix You getting yeah, you put it in putting your clothes on the morning It's probably not like the fact that your clothes aren't right next to the bed is probably not what's hindering your no progress. No, so I mean it's Yeah, so I think I think that's really good
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