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Elissa Legault on her tremendous rise as a Canadian Marathoner, building herself back up after a length injury, her evolution as a Coach at LegGo Coaching, the mental struggle of taking a step back from the sport, her mindset after her first race back in Vancouver, rehab and recovery tricks
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On today’s episode of Just In Stride, we’re joined by Elissa Legault, an elite long-distance runner and coach at Leggo Coaching. With standout performances on the roads, she has proven herself as a fierce competitor while also helping others chase their own running goals.
Elissa’s journey hasn’t been without setbacks. After dealing with a tough injury, she had to step away from competition, navigate the challenges of recovery, and rebuild both physically and mentally. Now, she’s back stronger than ever, using her experiences to not only elevate her own racing but to guide the athletes she coaches.
In this episode, Elissa shares the lessons she’s learned from injury, how coaching has shaped her perspective on the sport, and what’s next for her as both an athlete and mentor. Her story is an honest look at perseverance, patience, and the process of coming back better than before.
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Introduction to Just In Stride Podcast
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Hello and welcome to the Justin Stride Podcast. I'm your host Justin Pugliese. If you love endurance sports, you've definitely come to the right place. On this show, we'll talk to athletes, coaches, and professionals who can help us reach our true potential.
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Justin's Journey in Endurance Sports
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Elisa Legault: Overcoming Injury and Coaching
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On this episode of Just In Stride, we're joined by Elisa Legault, an elite long distance runner and coach at Legault Coaching. With standout performances on the road, she has proven herself as a fierce competitor while helping others chase their own running goals.
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Elisa's journey hasn't been without setbacks. After dealing with a tough injury, she had to step away from competition, navigating the challenges of recovery and rebuild both physically and mentally.
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Now she's back stronger than ever, using her experiences to not only elevate her own racing, but to guide the athletes she coaches. In this episode, Elisa shares the lessons she's learned from injury, how coaching has shaped her perspective on the sport, and what's next for her as both an athlete and mentor.
00:02:40
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Her story is an honest look at perseverance, patience, and the process of coming back better than ever.
00:02:48
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Elisa, welcome to the Justin Stride podcast. Thank you for having me Yeah, I saw like you' you're back to racing, um back at a competitive elite level.
00:03:00
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um You know, it was like in a year and a half ago, you were kind of peaking in the sport and and one of the top Canadian Quebec runners. And it was really inspiring and to see you kind of take a step back and then return. It's been it's been really nice to see.
00:03:16
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Thank you. Yeah, it was a big moment for me last weekend. um One year ago, i didn't think that I will race again at that level. So I was very grateful to be on the start line and to be healthy again and be able to race and see how like my training went and everything. So I was very happy to be there.
Adapting to New Training and Mindsets
00:03:39
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and And can you walk us through like some of the emotions that you were feeling and um maybe some some of the mental aspects of it going in because it had been so long?
00:03:51
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Yeah. um I wasn't like that stressed about the raid because I didn't know. like I started working with a new coach in October last year.
00:04:03
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So the training has been like very different from from what I was doing before. So um I wasn't like, I didn't have like um training where I knew like, oh, I can run run that pace something like that. So I was just like, let's see and be curious of,
00:04:22
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the shape you are in now. And it's like a, it was sad 2.0 and see like from there you do a time and then we're going to improve from there. So I was very like in a positive mind and just like be able to be on the start line and see like other faiths that I know and that have been like doing great in the last year. i was very happy to race beside them.
00:04:46
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he And did you have any like, maybe not time goals, but goals for yourself going into, you know, a competitive setting again? Or was it just like, i want to line up and finish and, and like, kind of like see how it goes along the way? Or did you have something like um some kind of strategy in mind that you were going into the race with?
00:05:07
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Um, uh, I would like, I say that I, I'm not like totally happy with the time. I was hoping for a bit faster. But it's still like a like a ah good time for me and I'm happy. But um I will say like if I was able to run like maybe a two-minute faster or maybe one and a half, I would like be totally happy with my race last weekend.
Marathon Training Insights
00:05:33
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And I guess looking at that time, what what do you think the the main factors going into that are? Like was it... Was it that it had been a while since you competed? Was it maybe the training at this stage in the season?
00:05:47
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can you like, can you say like, oh, I could have done this better or that better to kind of maybe prepare to to kind of get yourself to a similar fitness level? Yeah. um yeah There's a lot of like factors. i can say like I talked to my coach after and because I'm training for a marathon also, so we didn't like taper fully for that race. We kind of like back off and just I did kind of a long training on Tuesday before the race. So maybe I had a little bit of fatigue and I was also in altitude for like five weeks until the Friday before the race. So I traveled all day on Friday.
00:06:25
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um And also I had like um my quads at 10K were like totally like blocked.
00:06:35
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And I haven't had that in the past for a half marathon like ah It was weird. I was like, I don't know if like I was battling for the port first place with Kamanta, the other girl. And I told myself like if she passed me, I don't know if i have the gear to like go with her and Finally I did, but yeah, it was challenging because in the past I haven't had that. So to have that so her early in the race and like see how my body can like adjust with that like
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um difficulty, I was like, okay, one k at a time and let's see like if you can hold like a little bit more. ah So, yeah, its I think it's a mix of things. And also, in the last year, um before I started to work with my new coach, I did a bit of triathlon just to get back in shape and have fun.
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And I was only running for me, i was only running like 40 or 45 K a week. And this is way far from what I did in the past and what I'm now
Recovery and New Challenges
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doing. So I think I maybe need to get back more K and like more endurance and like everything. So a big mix of every a lot of things.
00:07:52
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Yeah. Maybe a lot of, you know, reflection. Like, is it difficult? I'm sure it was difficult like to compare you before and you now, you know, you say like, oh, didn't do that much volume or as much as I was used to.
00:08:06
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that, was that part challenging for you or frustrating? Yeah. Kind of, you know, trying to get back to where where you were? Yeah. yeah I was like conscious conscious that it will take time. ah And in the past, like i was doing like in my last year, I was, I had an average of K per week, maybe around like,
00:08:30
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160, 170 K a week. So, um, it was a lot, but I built that, uh, over many years. So I'm like, I know that I need time to get back there and maybe it's not necessarily to go back at that, um, amount of K, but just to build back my endurance, because we know that it's, it cannot be over like a week or two, like you need years to like, uh, build that. So,
00:08:58
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Yeah, um it's challenging, but if I go back a year ago, i was starting to do like run walk intervals. So I'm happy like to be able to run over 100k a week now. For sure, for sure. And so why did it change with the coach? what you know You were working with a coach prior to that. He got you to an exceptionally...
00:09:22
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like fit level, like a super elite competitive. um And so why did you feel like you needed to change at this stage? um Actually, it's my second change for Ronnie.
00:09:37
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I work with Claude. I know that you, I think you received Ariane that yeah was working with him too. So and he's the one that like builds like all my, my, a my running career, like we we worked together, I think five of or six years together.
00:09:54
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um And um at some point um i was ah ah trying to make the Olympic team in for Paris and he wasn't like ah aware of like all the races I needed to do and like the process and everything. So at that point in January of 2023,
00:10:14
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twenty twenty three I decided to work with Reid Colfess, an Olympian. So I worked with him from January to until my injury. So until like October.
00:10:29
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And then when I had my injury, um I knew that at that time I needed like four months off running and then like run walks and everything. So I just said to him like, I need time. I was very like in a dark place and like I was,
00:10:47
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almost in depression. So I told him like, I don't want to hear anything from running. So I will get back to you when I'm ready. And finally, when i I got back, I was like, okay, I want to try something new and that I i cannot compare myself to my whole self.
Training Evolution and Strategies
00:11:06
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So this is why I tried triathlon. um I did that for like... from maybe like March to like, until like last October. And it was fun. Like I wasn't like very good at bike, on the bike, but I learned a lot and it builds back my, like my, my form and everything. So that was nice.
00:11:28
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um And when I decided that I was ready to come back to running like fully, um I wanted a coach that was a, um,
00:11:39
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a mix of like flowed and reed that had like the high level experience but was closer to me and now I'm working with Felix Antoine, he's training like um he trained like three Olympians last summer and he's building like a group in Quebec so I'm now training with a group of girls too so that was important to me like the fun part because I was always like training alone before and for marathon training, it, it starts to be like very lonely, like all those like long runs and everything. So, uh, that was a huge part of my decision.
00:12:21
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Okay. And how's it going so far? It's been great. Actually. Like, uh, I'm able to like see my coach in person too because Claude I was seeing him maybe like once a month or once two months so now I'm seeing him like every week I'm also like training with a few girls and like it's way more fun and we did a training camp in January and that was also like very very fun so it's all fun and I like I'm very like happy with us Are they they're at the same level or training for the same things as you, or are you kind of, um, do it have different goals in mind?
00:13:00
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Um, there's like different levels and different like, um, distance training. So I'm the, the more like, uh, like for marathon and everything but there's another girl that is starting her debut in like on the half marathon in Houston last January so she's starting to do more mileage so that's nice to have like a training partner also for a long run.
Injury, Recovery, and Motivation
00:13:24
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Okay, nice. Now, is that the thing that you've noticed the most, the biggest change in the the styles of the coach? always curious because, you know, you've had like two already well-established coaches.
00:13:37
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Reid's exceptional athlete in his own right. ah Like you said, Olympian. um so you know what are What are some other things that you notice other than the group and the face-to-face that that this guy this coach is is implementing in your plans now?
00:13:54
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Yeah. There's one thing that I really love is, um and I haven't had that before. It's like, we change of like speed during the training. For example, we do like ah five k at marathon pace. Then we're going to do 1k reps at 10k pace. So we do like different like speeds during the training. So we touch like different like, um different like, like speed and like,
00:14:22
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It's nice to change also during the training. And also we have like ah passive rest. I wasn't like doing that ah much in in the past. Like I always would jog between my intervals.
00:14:36
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So that makes the training different because we can recover better and like push more on the repetitions too. So passive rest is not jogging during?
00:14:49
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Yeah, exactly. So walking or just like staying on the side. More like a kind of a track style where you do like, okay, okay, where you do your inter interval and then you take your rest standing or but walking and then you you hit you go again kind of thing.
00:15:05
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Yeah, but I saw my training for the, like, uh, the future for my marathon and I will have like jog, uh, rest. So maybe it was more like for a half marathon and less distance okay kind of thing. Yeah. Baby steps.
00:15:18
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Right. Yeah, exactly. So. can you go through it like with me and and maybe explain kind of what happened to you? And cause I, I find this, I mean, I'm coming off the injury myself. we We spoke about it a little bit before we were recording and, um, you know, it's, it's, it's really challenged. It takes away something you've done or do for many years, uh, almost every day to then all of a sudden it's like not in your life anymore. And it's, it's, uh,
00:15:48
Speaker
you know, it's like a breakup or something where we're like you're used to, yeah you're familiar with all this stuff and and you're comfortable with the training and and and then you don't have it anymore. And I can see where it becomes frustrating, where you can go definitely into some kind of depressive state.
00:16:05
Speaker
and Maybe you just go through like kind of what happened if you know actually what happened and um kind of how you work through those things. Yeah, sure. ah And yeah, it's exactly that because um I like racing, but I love ah the lifestyle. So when I had my injury, I was like, okay, I'm not doing it anymore because I cannot run like every day like I like to.
00:16:31
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But yeah, um like you said, like before my injury, I had a really great year. I did ah the Canada team for the world championship on the marathon.
00:16:43
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I also did ah my PB on the half, so I really had a great year. And this is when I changed coach to try to make the Olympic team. um And one thing that I noticed is that my new um training with the new coach was more very more challenging.
00:17:05
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um But we kept the same mileage, so my training load was very high.
Olympic Dreams and Overtraining
00:17:11
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um And I learned ah after my injury about ah red.
00:17:17
Speaker
I don't know you already like know that or talked about that on the podcast. Yeah, i have with with certain people that have been affected by it. Yeah. Yeah. So this is like the main part from my injury. Like I wasn't eating enough for like the calories that I was like ah burning through my training and everything. So And I wasn't, like, aware of that.
00:17:42
Speaker
I wasn't, like, losing weight or something like that. But it's on the long a long period of time, too. Like, it's building, like, slowly and everything. so um So, yeah, I changed coach. I changed training and everything. And I was training very hard. And you cannot, like, make an Olympic team, like, not training hard. But, yeah, maybe i will have...
00:18:07
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I will need more time to like adjust. and like maybe We talked with Claude about that after my injury like in last December and we said like Paris was too soon for me and maybe you will ah it would have made more sense to like focus on LA and just build something before... like and
00:18:32
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I forgot my word, but yeah. So, yeah. so To build, maybe to build towards the next Olympics rather than kind of you're you're close and try and qualify in a short window.
00:18:46
Speaker
Yeah, to force things and everything, yeah. And I had, like, the support of, like, the Quebec running community, and that was nice, but that's what that's what part partly, like, caught me into, like,
00:19:00
Speaker
oh, you need to do, like, the Olympic now, and, like, you're good now, and you need to focus on this now. So I got caught up in that, and, like, I was trying to make it, but, yeah, maybe with more time, it would have made more sense to, like,
00:19:15
Speaker
I just in the adult training. So, yeah. So, I trained with Reid Colset all spring of 2023. And twenty three um and in June of that year, i i was supposed to have like a down rest week at the end of June. And after that, I was supposed to prepare Berlin Marathon for a first shot as ah trying to qualify for the Olympic.
00:19:47
Speaker
But at the beginning and beginning of that week, I got a call from Accleston Canada ah asking if I want to and replace a girl on the team for the World Championship of that year.
Coping with Severe Injury
00:20:02
Speaker
so obviously I was like, yes, I want to do it. ah But it was five weeks before Berlin. So um like instead of like taking the rest week we started right on the marathon build and I think this is like one thing that got me because maybe a month after that I had actually turned into injury and I wasn't able to run like I was like limping and like everything so
00:20:33
Speaker
after maybe two or three weeks I called athletes to Canada to say like i won't I won't be able to make the team anymore. So that that was one thing because it was my first injury and that made me like not do the world championships.
00:20:51
Speaker
So I was okay, that's bad. um I took time to rest but I was too focused on like trying to make the Olympics so I got back very quickly um and maybe like a month ah later i did a big training and after that I was cramping in my boots and I was thinking oh it's maybe like desidratation so okay that's fine and in the afternoon I was very hurting like in my lower back um so at first I thought it was my sacroiliac
00:21:29
Speaker
um But after a few appointments at the Kiro, did an MRI and it was a stress factor in my sacrum.
00:21:40
Speaker
wow So it was a ah big stress factor. Like we have like four grades and I was like the highest. So she said, the doctor said to me, like, you're out for at least three months and it will probably be four months.
00:21:53
Speaker
a um It's not like in your legs or your foot that you can like... immobilize the section and like it will like recover faster, feel faster. So she said like you cannot walk but you cannot stay still too long.
00:22:11
Speaker
So you need to like just move a little bit but rest and everything and I had my dog and I cannot walk my dog and that was a lot because I cannot do anything actually.
00:22:23
Speaker
um um So yeah, that was that was a lot. um And it's hard because you often heard, like, you cannot, like, put all your eggs in the running basket and, like, you need to be something else and running.
00:22:41
Speaker
But you put so much time and so much energy and you love it so much that it's hard, like, when youre you have the running take away from you.
00:22:52
Speaker
to say okay what I'm now like what can I do um and also it it was at that time it's been like maybe one year that I left my job to like ah full running so I was like okay i'm I don't have a job too and like I cannot do anything so I got back into working and I'm I was in accounting. I started my running coach and my running coaching my running
00:23:25
Speaker
my run coaching company um in April last year. So yeah, I needed time to just focus on something else. But it was hard because I was seeing also on social media other girls like doing great. I was like, oh, I want to to to be done and like be able to run and everything. um And yeah, so that was hard.
00:23:51
Speaker
yeah Yeah, that's, ah I mean, i' i'm I'm finding it hard just listening to to that. You know, you think you're doing all the right things to to get you to the goal, the ultimate goal, which in your mind, you know, I think the last time we spoke was like 2021. And we were talking about the the Olympic goal aspiration. And, ah you know, it sounded like it was within your reach, you know, but, you know, same volume, more intensity, this kind of thing. And then, like you said, with these,
00:24:21
Speaker
a adjusting the plan for less rest, I guess it was a ah combination that, you know, the body can, is a it's yeah it's a really powerful tool, right?
00:24:34
Speaker
But we have to take care of it too, right? So, yeah it's ah Yeah, it's too bad. you know it's um And then how did you handle that? Like you know meant like like you said, it it kind it becomes you, it's it's everything you do, it's it's what people know you for. um how did you How was that like at the at the beginning of you know when you got those that news?
00:24:59
Speaker
Yeah, I think it was by faith. One was deny, like i I couldn't believe that I was off for like that long and i will need like so much rest.
00:25:16
Speaker
And I was thinking like I built that for like so much years that I will lose everything, like my fitness and like my level that I'm at now.
Return to Running and Fitness
00:25:26
Speaker
um And after that, I tried to focus on everything else, so my friends, my family, like, you know, when you're training for a marathon, you don't have ah so much time or so much energy. So I was like, okay, those persons are my priority now, and I will focus on them and, like, just trying to have great moments moments and everything.
00:25:53
Speaker
um and after maybe two months, the doctor said ah was able to swim. with a pool and between my legs.
00:26:06
Speaker
I was just doing laps in the pool and I started to work with my strength coach. He was giving me like little programs to like keep me motivated.
00:26:18
Speaker
um And the doctor said the next step is ah you you will be able to bike and then and ro welcome we run run walk So this is when i did I did the math in my head and I was like swimming, biking, run. That sounds like triathlon, so I will try that.
00:26:41
Speaker
oh So yeah, I built back my motivation to train from like trying something new and something that I had no like comparison to make between my last shape that I was in before.
00:27:00
Speaker
um And I started to work with a triathlon coach in January, I think. So at that time, I was only training for swim and bike. and we took we really took life time for running because um I was building fitness through the two other sports. And running is like kind of natural for me so we knew that when we were gonna get back to running it will not take that much time to get back in shape so yeah so I did that and i was I was convinced that I wouldn't go back to running at that time but I will like become a triathlete wow okay yeah
00:27:43
Speaker
I mean, did your sister have an influence there or? i Yes and no because I was doing like long distance than things. So yeah, and I did a 72.3 in last July. So that was so much fun. Like I really loved it because it was long and like, yeah, this is what I love.
00:28:03
Speaker
So yeah. Maybe a bit closer to marathoning, you know? Yeah, exactly. So yeah, I really appreciate that time and i
00:28:14
Speaker
I got back in fitness way more than I was thinking because when I, I joined a group in Quebec, I was able to like follow the girls and do the training like very quickly. So i was like, okay, like cross training is really a thing and it's working. So yeah.
00:28:32
Speaker
Yeah. Maybe can you speak to that? You know, i have actually an athlete now, like I'm coaching a couple, a couple guys. And he went from like marathon and he's like, I want to do triathlon and I want to do a half Ironman.
00:28:44
Speaker
And I don't, you know, the, the running definitely has come down in volume because he's got to focus on the other stuff, you know, but we did a 5k time trial like two weeks ago and
Nutrition and Coaching Philosophies
00:28:53
Speaker
they they killed it. You know, he, he's like got a PB and stuff. And I, it's hard to to make, to see how that could benefit you, but you know, the more volume doing other stuff, it still builds your capacity. Right. So.
00:29:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I was doing like three, four hours ride bikes. um And yeah, I think like the hurt and your body doesn't know like what you're doing. It's working like when you do like aerobic stuff, like you're working out. So after that, you only need like the specific things of like the technique and everything to to get back in. But I truly believe that If you work out your heart and like your body, it's going to follow like very soon.
00:29:41
Speaker
who Okay, good. So then then you thought, okay, I'm not going back to running. I'm going to stay in triathlon. So yeah then and there was a switch back to the running? Yeah, actually, like I said, like I started my running my run company in coaching in April. And and I was like going to see my athletes in a few like events.
00:30:04
Speaker
And I went to Montreal Marathon in September. And this is when I did i had like the the illumination in my head, like, oh, I missed that. like I want to go back to running like fully.
00:30:19
Speaker
and And the week after that, I like emailed my new coach and asked him if he wants to take me on his team. And Yeah, so we started to work together from there.
00:30:32
Speaker
can Can you speak to maybe um the lessons, you know, from this experience? You know, you you know you're you're having so much success in the sport. seems like you're doing everything the right way.
00:30:44
Speaker
and you get hurt and you have to build yourself back up. And now here you are. what What are some, like, you know, maybe lessons that you can carry through with you through life ah that you learned from that experience?
00:30:58
Speaker
Yeah, the main thing is like the nutrition, like i wasn't eating enough and I think a lot of people don't eat enough like and they don't know it.
00:31:09
Speaker
um And this is so much important. Like now I see the difference with before, like I have so much more energy, I recover so much quicker. And I work i started to work with a nutritionist in November.
00:31:27
Speaker
I worked with like other nutritionists before, but um I told her like I need a plan and I need to see and know what is enough for me on different like kind of day.
00:31:39
Speaker
And she made me a plan like, okay, for like ah intervals that you need like that kind of like meals during your day. for rest day for like doubles and like long run day and everything so now at first it was challenging because was counting but I needed to know like visually like okay I need that kind like that amount of rice in my plate to be enough and now like I'm used to like the portion and everything and like she made me the plan when I was above a week and it was
00:32:12
Speaker
and it was so much more than what I was eating when I was doing like a week. So it was like, for me, it was eye-opening, like how less I was eating and it was so important like to eat more. So this is my main lesson that I learned and how it's important to eat like ah more often. Like before I was eating like three meals and ah that was about it.
00:32:42
Speaker
And now she made me a plan three meals, three snacks. So I'm always thinking this is like almost a chord like to just like follow that. But I know that if I followed that, I should be like.
00:32:57
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and Enough. ah Okay. With like the amount of food that I need. Can you, can you give us an example of of what that looks like in like, in terms of food? um yeah ah in the morning it's like like my traditional like oatmeal oatmeal with like um banana, peanut butter like put some like protein milk in it so to have like enough protein in the morning too um usually i have a snack mid morning like it can be like a muffin with the fruit and like
00:33:37
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ah a slice of cheese, something like that. And for the lunch and like lunch and dinner ah are the same. Like it can be a bowl of rice with like tofu and like vegetables.
00:33:49
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In the afternoon, same thing like as the morning and I have a snack before to go to bed. So sometimes it's challenging because we have like intervals in late afternoon. So maybe we're going to train from four to six 30 and I still need to have a snack a post workout snack uh dinner and like before bed snack so this part of my like which is hard because I didn't need to like crunch like a lot of food after my training but
00:34:22
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This is when I see the difference with ah before like ah before I was probably had my dinner and maybe a snack before to go to bed. But the amount of food wasn't the same.
00:34:37
Speaker
It's interesting. I mean, there's so many like, I don't know if you feel this way with coaching too, but like there's so much more you can provide as a coach than just a running plan.
00:34:50
Speaker
yeah Right. And this is why you can follow a plan plan online, but the expertise that you're able to give your athletes now about stuff like this, like sleep and weight training and food is invaluable, you know? And ah I don't know if people understand that when they sign up with a coach and, and, and how important that can be. Right. Cause even, even for you. And I, I find this so interesting because even the top athletes can learn something and it sounds like you have, you know?
00:35:20
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Yeah. And the other like lesson that I learned that I can like give to my ex-let too is the fun part because I, I lost that in the last time, like before my injury, I was like so focused on ah doing the Olympics that I was like, okay, I need to train to eat, to sleep. And like, that was my life and no question. And like, I was like a robot, robot, robot. Yeah.
00:35:48
Speaker
Yeah. and with my athletes now, like, i I tell them, like, okay, for example, someone will ask me, oh, it's, like, there's a storm outside, I would like to do my training on the treadmill, is it okay? I'm like, what sounds fun for you? Like, do you want to go in the storm, you prefer to stay inside? so like, we it doesn't matter, and, like, if you have fun, the rest will follow, and, like,
00:36:19
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it will be so much like better in the longterm. For sure. what So were you still having fun at that time? Like, did you lose the sense of fun?
00:36:30
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and Before my injury? Yeah, I can say it. Yeah. I was like, so, so, so focused like on running and like, also one thing that I learned too is I wanted to control everything, like my sleep, my, my food, my, I didn't want to get sick. Like,
00:36:48
Speaker
all year around but like we are human so it's normal to get sick and like yeah so that was a lot so just like focused one day at a time like having fun like on that day and like don't like think too much in our advance and like trying to control also like for example I needed to run a specific time at in my and my race so I was training with that time in mind that's like uh that pace and time. And if I did like two seconds per K, like slower, I was like, okay, my training is not good enough. Like all that thing, like just like be more flexible and like, yeah.
00:37:31
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Do you believe now that you have the tools to surpass where you were before? Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I think,
00:37:45
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I think my injury was the greatest thing that happened to me. That's fun to say, but um I learned so much and I'm truly a better athlete now than I was before.
00:37:57
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i and it's
00:38:01
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it's hard to know that you sometimes need that to like open your eyes and see like what what what needs to be do do
Mentorship and Personal Growth
00:38:13
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differently. So,
00:38:15
Speaker
uh yeah definitely yeah what you all the things you need to do like differently now to move forward and uh to have a better balance are you having and you're having fun it sounds like which is good yeah but yeah yes i do having the training partners having the coach and you just you told me you just moved also to to be yeah to be closer to that yeah exactly so now i i have like Also, all the installations, like in Quebec, we have like the like yeah indoor track, like and we have like all the strength coach and like once a week we meet with him and like he look at our movements and make sure that we're doing them like correctly.
00:39:02
Speaker
We have like treatments also like to make sure we stay healthy. so It's game-changing too to like be around like a group of people that are there to help you like be he'll stay healthy and be like the better athlete you can meet That's amazing. Well, I'm happy you're in a good place now. you know ah i want to continue to see you grow as an athlete and and achieve everything you want to achieve in the sport because ah yeah you're doing so well and and it's it's hard to see that momentum stop, but it sounds like you picked up where you left off kind of thing.
00:39:35
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um the yeah The triathlon stuff interesting though, because that was part of your your kind of childhood too. I know growing up, it was it was part of how how you were active as a kid.
00:39:46
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Maybe we can go back for those who don't know you and just hear how you grew up and and where and and how you got into running in the first place. Yeah, I did my first race at the age of nine actually. So I run now for like 20 years and more.
00:40:05
Speaker
um and quickly get into triathlon at the age of 11 I think so I did like five series of triathlons at that time and we were doing that in family so my father and my mother and my sister was in the club too so it was nice like memories because we we were like going there like few times a week like the four of us and like training with friends so it's it was nice and we did try training camp in Florida and like everything. So it was very nice.
00:40:41
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Um, and I got to buy crashes in the last summer of my fifth year. So this is when I like, it was enough for me. I was like, this is not for me. I don't want to do that anymore.
00:40:55
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um and yeah, after that, I got into, CGS like the, in between like high school and university in Quebec. So, uh, ah In those years, stopped running just to like focus on living, being the like a teenager, being with with my friends and everything.
00:41:15
Speaker
and And when I got into university, I had one friend that wanted to do the half marathon in Montreal. And she said like, Oh, do it with me. And I was like, you're crazy. The longest distance I did before it was like 3k or something like that. So I don't want to do a half marathon, but she convinced me and I did it with her. And this is like when I, I got back into running and like,
00:41:39
Speaker
From there, like, I knew that I love like long distance and you it this was my thing. Okay, good. Yeah. And did you ever see like, yeah maybe that you would continue running, but did you ever think, Hey, I could be possibly if a future Olympian or take this to like a professional level?
00:42:00
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So I remember like when I i did my first marathon, I did it with a book. And after that, i contacted Claude to coach me. And he was training Ariane. And at that time, I don't remember like where she was in her marathon time.
00:42:17
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but she definitely did Montreal one where she went once. Yeah. um And he said like, oh, you can train with Ariane. And I was like, you're crazy. She's way faster than me.
00:42:31
Speaker
I cannot train with her. And I remember it was so, so far from me. So I was like, oh, I cannot like run that fast. And yeah. So I truly truly believe when you like,
00:42:44
Speaker
put the work, put the consistency and like, just like do the right thing. You can really improve and do like things that seems impossible at first. I'll have to say this. um I think the reason she won is because I was pacing her.
Overcoming Mental Barriers
00:43:02
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so That's a huge part. I think, I think there's a few things that happened that day, but it was her first marathon. I think it was her first marathon. Yeah. It was her first marathon. I think I had done maybe one before, um but I got to train with her. Like I met her and um kind of through like Lululemon Run Community and stuff. And I got to train with her. I used to go to the track with her all the time. And ah we had like a good training. Well, we have a great friendship and ah and a good training relationship. And um
00:43:34
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and the And I remember I had to get to the start line for that race. And you know how it is. We used to start on the bridge. ah Yeah. Pont Champlain, I think. Yeah, exactly.
00:43:46
Speaker
But there's the... there's the Island there, you know, yeah you have to take the Metro there. And I remember like, I had to go to the bathroom before the race start. So like, i was like really like on the clock and I just made it, you know, just made it to the start line with her. But I said to myself, if I can stay with her as long as possible, then I could probably PB in my, in my marathon time.
00:44:10
Speaker
and That's what happened. I just tried to hang on with her as long as I can. I think she dropped me at 33 and then, Sally, you know, my so, yeah, it was super fun to, to watch her and and see her grow as an athlete. and And I'm sure for you too, like as a, as a Quebec athlete and and you look ah up to other runners in the sport and, and, and it seems so far from, from where you think you might be able to go, but look at you now, you know, so, is there anybody you you look up to now in the sport?
00:44:44
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Um,
00:44:46
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It's a good question. I don't have like a specific person, but I like to see like great performance or some, some like, um, the, the woman in the U S trial last year that got fourth.
00:45:00
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Um, I have, uh, I forgot her name. Uh, but she's like, I like, like, um, is it Jesse something? I think it's that. Yeah.
00:45:12
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I'm bad with names. So, but anyways, she finished fourth and she wasn't supposed to even be closed, I think. Yeah, exactly. So those kinds of first performance or, um, yeah. So,
00:45:25
Speaker
And at the time, I was really looking at Melanie Mira in Quebec. So I remember, like, ah one time she said to me, like, oh, we can go for a joy and everything. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:37
Speaker
And she was so kind to me. And also, Natasha Wodak had a great impact on me, too, because when i I did the team for the World Championship, I wasn't, like, aware of, like, that. And she said to me, you need to, like,
00:45:54
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put your name like on the, like you need to like kind of register through Acre City Canada and say like, I want to participate. And if it wasn't for her, like I wouldn't have done the world championship because I wasn't aware that my performance in Ottawa Marathon was enough for that. So she's the one who told me that. So yeah, I have a few like person like that who helped me like grow and like learn how things work at that level. Yeah. Yeah. Cause how are you supposed to know without some guidance? Right?
00:46:29
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. And like, there's ah like a protocol, like you need to declare, like, I want to do those like, uh, high level races. You cannot just qualify and like,
00:46:40
Speaker
don't say anything. So, yeah. Yeah, Tasha's great. I got to speak to her a few times and she's, you know, veteran of the sport but still performs much. So um great. Yeah, right? Like, it's a crazy to watch and Melinda Elmore and like all these...
00:46:58
Speaker
amazing athletes that are, you know, Melinda was at the Olympics and, you know, and Tasha's been there and yeah, it's, it's so, so fun to watch. And it's nice that they also help out the you know, the next generations too, you know, it's a. Yeah.
00:47:13
Speaker
Yeah. Natasha was always there to help me and like, always like open to share like tips, tricks, trainings and everything. Like when I, uh, at the end, when I was working with Claude,
00:47:28
Speaker
I was talking with her and she like would recommend some trainings and we will try them and everything. So I really appreciate her. And like, she's a big part of like who I am now as a runner.
00:47:41
Speaker
Where would you say, i mean, there's two questions. When did you realize your own potential? Was it that someone told you or that you realized it yourself?
00:47:51
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and And when did you have, when would you you, is there a moment where you had like that breakthrough?
00:47:59
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um I always had the imposter syndrome. like Even like when I did the Ottawa Marathon where I did my PB, obviously at the starting night of the champion the World Championship, like I was like, that's crazy. like How did I get there?
00:48:21
Speaker
I don't know if I have a specific moment. I always thought that we can be better, but I like to keep things myself to myself too. Like when I have like goals, I have like trouble like saying saying them out loud before the race or before like an event or being, before being qualified because um maybe it is this is because I don't like see myself like at that level too. And like, I don't know.
00:48:53
Speaker
I just love running. So I'm like, that if I can run and like be the best, really sad that I can be. ah Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I see myself like ah at that level to be truly honest. Yeah. Okay.
00:49:09
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, the times would indicate otherwise, you know, you also won the Canadian champs, and right? and in In the half marathon. So, you know, at a certain point, you know, you can whether you believe it or not, the results are,
00:49:26
Speaker
are the results, right? So yeah you think you think maybe that's an unlock for you when you have that that confidence that you can like really see yourself or maybe that, can you see that maybe as something that holds you back a little?
00:49:40
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Because I know that, for example, I'm doing a race and I see a girl that I think that is better than me in front of me and I can like pass her, will question my decision to pass her because I'm like, I'm not supposed to be in front of her. So I know that I need to work on that because i cannot like base my performance on others because you cannot control what the others do and how she feels and everything. So,
00:50:12
Speaker
Yeah, definitely I need to work on that because I think like sometimes I get caught up in my head, like especially like for a long distance, you have a lot of time to think. So yeah, I need to definitely work on that and maybe like trust myself more. and is ah Is part of your training too, like do you work with any sports, and mental strength coaches or anything like that? or Yeah, I think you know her, Camille Charbonneau. Right, yeah.
00:50:39
Speaker
I was working with her in the past and I i did a podcast this summer for the Montreal Marathon. I was co-host and we we received her on the podcast and this is when I i told to myself, like and this is this is good for everything to everyone too, but I realized everything is good now. like I'm in a great place, good mindset and everything, but I want to keep that and uh in time so I contacted her and I said to her like I don't have like a specific like thing that I want I want to work on or I'm not like there's nothing like that's going wrong now but I want to keep that so let's work together and like see if we can like find something or perfect something or get better at something so yeah I'm working with her since the
00:51:36
Speaker
September, I think. Oh, nice. Yeah. Nice. And is it helping? You find some some benefits in that? Or there some simple things that you can maybe suggest that people do like on a regular basis to kind of keep their themselves in a good frame of mind?
00:51:52
Speaker
Yeah. and One thing that I like to do before race with her is like um having like few thoughts that can pop up in your head like negative thoughts and be prepared to like replace them with something positive or something you can like ah focus on instead of that thought so that was a whole trick that we did in the past um also like even as i said like i have like a lot of fun with a group of of girls to train with uh there's challenging like parts too because
00:52:32
Speaker
you're always challenged with some some other girls, you're feeling better, you're feeling worse than one one day. So I needed to adapt that because in the past I was doing my own thing at my pace, at my feeling.
00:52:44
Speaker
Now yeah you have to like be aware like of the other girls and everything and like you don't want to compare yourself, but there's always like comparison and like you need to keep that healthy.
Future Racing Plans
00:52:56
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So yeah, we work on that too.
00:52:58
Speaker
Yeah, there's like a healthy side of it and also where it can be creeping as a negative part to it. Okay, that's good. That's good. And so what does this year look like for you? I know you just raced in Vancouver and you know did you did a training camp recently.
00:53:15
Speaker
So what's the what's kind of the outlook on 2025? Yeah. Yeah, there's a world championship. we We are aware of that.
00:53:26
Speaker
um We don't know if it will be too soon. um But this is why we decided to do Vancouver half to see like, what is my shape?
00:53:37
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um The time was not enough to be like enough to qualify. and so at first I was supposed to do like Vancouver half and marathon on March 30.
00:53:49
Speaker
um And maybe another half in the beginning of May because the window for qualification will close at that time. But since Vancouver was not strong enough, maybe we're going to swap like a half in March and marathon in May to see like if I have more time to prepare for the marathon.
00:54:09
Speaker
um It's not like the... Main goal, if I can tell the year, like if I can do it, I can do it. If I cannot, this is not like, it's my coming coming back year, so that's fine.
00:54:23
Speaker
um If I don't do world championship, there's also a world championship and there's a half marathon there. So maybe we're going to try that instead. Okay, at the end of the season. ah Yeah, it's in October. So but yeah we're going to have a little more time to like do a strong half too.
00:54:42
Speaker
Okay, good. Good. And is ah the plan to like, like what's your favorite ah distance? Is it all distance running or is it like, are you, you want to focus on marathon? You want you like, like, i don't know. It's hard. You have great times in so many different distances, so it's hard to know where you're going to go with it. But I think, you know, half or full for you, but is that, that's, that'd be my guess.
00:55:06
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and Definitely full. yeah And I love the training for a full, um, I also like the half, but if I had to choose, it would be the full.
00:55:17
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Okay. And so what do you most love about the marathon? The endurance part and like the the mental part too, because you realize like how the mental part is a big part of that distance. And if you train that and know how to trick your your your brain and like how to like have tips and tricks to like stay stronger and stay focused it can do a huge difference on your performance you you still need to train but yeah i think like if you train your mental too like you can be a strong runner okay sosh so what are some um like tips and tricks that you that you try to implement when you're racing a marathon
00:56:02
Speaker
and and for me in the past like I was always thinking like at the end of the race like okay like so what what will happen at the end of the race and I i learned to focus on the the present moment and the present K and the present like reps and training and everything so give your best on that that specific like reps or K and then gonna pass to it the other and also if you don't have like for example in a marathon if you don't have a good like 1 or 2k that doesn't mean that in 5k you're gonna feel better and like it's like rolling like emotions and like feelings so you can feel like feel better like in 20 minutes so just to like stay positive and like
00:56:50
Speaker
focus on the moment, the present moment is the key for me. Yeah. Okay, good. Yeah. yeah That's a, that's a good one for sure. I remember when I first, when I raced my first marathon, it was exactly that. I didn't, I didn't know what to do or how to,
00:57:05
Speaker
Like it was kind of, it was after triathlon half Ironman distances. And I was like, well, if I want to do a full Ironman next year, I'm going to have a marathon this year. So I know what it feels like.
00:57:17
Speaker
And I'm just like one kid at a time. And i remember focusing on my watch. And I know it's not the best thing to do, but it's like, okay, try and be consistent on the... the per k right?
00:57:28
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um And it it kind of worked for me. So it was it just distracted. It's just distractions to kind of get you forward, right? Instead of seeing like this, like you say, if I have two bad K, that's not the end of the world.
00:57:41
Speaker
You could feel better again. That's the just the nature nature of that distance, right? Yeah.
Early Sports Influences
00:57:46
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And I work with Camille too, to like try to get out of like my head and my body and just focus on the outside. So what is what is happening like outside is there like a crew is there a kid is there like um uh like i don't know beautiful house or everything like you have time to like check the the surroundings and like just like not focus on like how you're feeling and just like be like yeah out of your head what's the best advice you've ever been given
00:58:20
Speaker
um be patient for the marathon yeah like don't start too fast and like be confident that you're you're gonna be able to like pick it up and like finish strong you're patient at the beginning yeah right it's it's always attempting to come out too strong too hot and then you pay for it later but yeah yeah because you always like If you will prepare, you will always think like at first, oh, this is my day. I can do like a race and like I'm way faster than I train, but it's not happening usually.
00:58:57
Speaker
For sure. and And so are your parents still very much like active and are they, there's they're still like very supportive of your, your, your running career? Yeah, for sure. My dad is still running.
00:59:11
Speaker
um And my mom, like, she walks the dog and everything. And yeah, we have, like, great parents for that. When I did my fifth triathlon last summer, was a small one, like, in Quebec City. And they came, like, to see me race. Like, they they love, like, to see us race.
00:59:30
Speaker
So, yeah, they are very present as a person of of us. Yeah. And your sister's crushing it too, right? She's ah yeah she's she's super competitive in the triathlon scene right now.
00:59:41
Speaker
Yeah. But actually she did the on pace last summer. Right. Yeah. That too. Of course. Yeah. And what's what's it like to have that kind of in your, like so close to you, you know, have you like taken some things from your sister and terms of like lessons?
00:59:55
Speaker
Yeah, she's definitely my mentor in the sport because she's doing that for so long now. um When I started to like travel for races, she gave me tricks when I had bad races, when I had like the change of coach, how to do it, if I should do it. like the We talk a lot and It's nice to have her like in the sports too because she knows so much and like she has great advice and she used to like train in groups too. So yeah, she she's great.
01:00:28
Speaker
So you guys are pretty close then? yeah Yeah. That's awesome. well i mean yeah i mean and what What did she share with you about her like Olympic experience? um it was like tough ah to get there because She trained so hard and like, it's special like in in Canada, you know, like maybe a month in advance that you're going to do the team. So the stress and everything. But when she was there, like she had so much a great experience experience, except like, I don't know if you know or remember, but the triathlon in the swim was in the team. So there was like,
01:01:14
Speaker
ah i and ah like they wasn't sure if the swim will happen and everything the guy got like pushed a day later so it was stressful for the athletes to like don't know if they will have a swim and if they will have like ah yeah so that was stressful but the she said to me and was her best race in terms like of like ah cheering and everything like i was there and there were so much people like it was a great experience so yeah because of the pollution in the water right that's i remember yeah if i remember correctly they were trying to clean it up so they'd be able to do the triathlon
01:01:59
Speaker
yeah and it was borderline like i know that some actually got sick and everything oh god your sister was okay yeah okay nice um so now you said you're how's your coaching business going and and what are uh what would you say is like a very common question you get from from your athletes and how do you how do you handle that uh the business is going very well like better than i thought uh even in the winter actually i was i was under the impression that i will lose some people and like have less athlete but actually like at
01:02:34
Speaker
the end of the fall I got more achete for the winter so I don't know what happened but that's a good problem and the biggest question or the most common question and um nutrition is a big part for like endurance I think that's our starting with a half for the marathon so we talk a lot about that and like practicing the gels and everything.
Coaching Business Insights
01:03:03
Speaker
Um, also my biggest like battle with them is to slow them down for the easy, like part of running. So I have, I have often people that like will jog at their half marathon pace. And I'm like, you need to slow down. Like if you want to go like faster.
01:03:21
Speaker
So this is my biggest battle. And what else? ah Uh, It's funny because i for me it was like, how to say that, like when they run on a treadmill, they are surprised that their watch don't have the same data as the treadmill and they like struggle to like understand that it's normal that you need to focus on like the treadmill thing. so it's just like basic stuff for me that like I know but I realize that when you start you you know so uh so less and like it's it's nice to be part of the they're like um growing as a as a runner and like they learn and everything so I'm happy to be with them in that's
01:04:11
Speaker
So you have like different levels of athlete or would you say it's more like beginner athlete or what's the, what's the mix? I have like some walk, run and intervals to like, um, I have a guy that ran 235 last fall. So he's my fastest, but ah except of him, like I have few of them that are qualified for Boston Marathon. Oh, good. That would be my, my strongest.
01:04:39
Speaker
It's nice. Hey. Yeah, it's challenging. Like, the guy who ran, like, 2.25, you realize that there's so much more detail that you need to, like, focus on.
01:04:49
Speaker
Like, for someone who starts running, you just, like, give him a plan and, like, just make sure, like, it's, like, progressive and then everything for injury. But it's so much, like, easier, if I can say, with, like...
01:05:03
Speaker
than someone who like is already like ah at a high level and you need to like just improve like little details and everything so it was challenging but very fun yeah exactly right because it's like they're already quite speedy so to be able to run at that speed for a marathon, you have to have some kind of ability already. So then it's like, how do we fine tune things, improve on little things that can take you, you know, a couple minutes faster. But with the new person, it's like, there's so much, there's so much there to, to uncover. Right. So yeah.
01:05:40
Speaker
Yeah. Just, just runs. And also like, sometimes I have like questions like, specific question like ah should I do like a laptop test and everything and I'm like this part running like you can improve so much in that part and then we can talk about like details and like tests and like everything and shoes even like you don't need to have five pairs of shoes like to start running like one pair is enough and like Just like do the basic and then we can like go in detail.
Simplicity and Life Lessons from Running
01:06:08
Speaker
stuff Yeah. Don't you find that? i don't know if you find this, but that, that a lot of, uh, you know, runners just starting out a couple of years that they may be overcomplicated when it can just be really simple.
01:06:22
Speaker
Yeah. Oh yeah. Truly. And like, I remember like I did my two or three first marathon, like in training shoes like i haven't had like carbon shoes and it's it's okay like you don't need like carbon plate shoes to and like run fast yeah yeah no I and I believe that too I actually ran my fastest marathon in just regular shoes that I was felt good in like I just yeah they worked for my body my my feet my feet felt really comfortable in them they were light and
01:06:57
Speaker
it just worked for me. Like I even had carbon plate shoes at at the time and i I chose not to wear them. I chose the the other shoes that I had. Yeah. so but it's It's true. And I think it's also like marketing parts of like, you need to have that and that and that and that to run fast, but actually like not that much.
01:07:16
Speaker
Yeah, it it's meant to be... It's a nice sport because it's ah it's meant to be accessible, right? And like the idea is you can just have a pair of shoes and go out the door and and get some exercise. and that's But yeah, you can have the $700 watch. You can have the $500 shoes too. The chest strap for heart rate.
01:07:40
Speaker
yes Which is crazy. so that's cool. That's cool. um What would you say that running... has brought to your life? Like, and I'm sure this question maybe means a bit more to you now than maybe it would have two years ago. Yeah.
01:07:56
Speaker
Um, being grateful for what you have and don't take it for granted. um it's cheesy maybe, but like when, when you lose something that meant so much to you, you realize that you can lose like everything and just like being able to like,
01:08:16
Speaker
live one day at a time and like do what you love. It's, it's important like to, to realize that and be grateful for that. And do you find that you've expanded on who Elisa is and not maybe just not just a runner in that time?
01:08:33
Speaker
Yeah. and Yeah. I, with my company too, like I was so happy to help other runners give my experience and like,
01:08:46
Speaker
it's my own, like, it's my company and, like, I'm my own boss and, like, a I take my own decision and everything and I'm building something. So it's nice to see, like, how like oh it's growing up. And, like, also when I have, like, athletes that are racing, I'm so much, like, nervous and, like, I want them to do well because I know, like, how much work they put in.
01:09:12
Speaker
So, yeah. yeah I don't feel like me, you follow along and you're texting them as the race is going. They finish and they, they have this, this text message feed. Like, uh, I actually like, I didn't know, but one of my athletes had like the messages popping up on his phone and his, on his watch.
01:09:30
Speaker
Yeah. I didn't know that at the time, but he had one he had one of these watches where the messages pop up. So he's like, I got your message at 40k.
01:09:40
Speaker
soap um So where can people find out more about you, about your coaching and just what you're up to? ah For me, it's my Instagram and the coaching. I also have an and Instagram page and I also have like the the website. It's Lego coaching.
01:09:56
Speaker
Okay, perfect. Perfect. Well, I want to say thank you so much, Elisa. It's been a while since we spoke. And I mean, I've been following your journey and and it's always great to catch up. I'm inspired by where you where you've been and where you're going.
Episode Conclusion
01:10:10
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And I'm really grateful for your time today. Thank you, Dustin. I hope you have great season and I'll talk to you soon. Thank you. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye.
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