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Antoine Jolicoeur on his long and successful triathlon career, having fun at a competitive level, being a professional while getting an education, writing his own book on triathlon, coaching athletes, discovering the world of trail running
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Welcome to the "Just in Stride" podcast, where we dive into the world of endurance sports, motivation, and personal growth. I'm your host, and today we have a very special guest with us. He's a triathlete, an author, and a coach who has inspired many with his dedication and passion for the sport. Please join me in welcoming Antoine Jolicoeur.
Antoine's journey in triathlon is nothing short of extraordinary. From grueling training sessions to crossing finish lines, he's not just competed but excelled, embodying the spirit of perseverance and resilience. As an author, he's shared his insights and experiences, offering a wealth of knowledge to both novice and seasoned athletes. And as a coach, he's guided countless individuals towards achieving their personal bests, fostering not just better athletes but stronger, more confident individuals.
In today's episode, we'll delve into Antoine's experiences, the lessons he's learned along the way, and his advice for anyone looking to push their limits and achieve their goals. Whether you're an aspiring triathlete, an endurance enthusiast, or someone seeking inspiration, this conversation promises to be packed with valuable takeaways.
So, lace up your shoes, get ready to be inspired, and let's get started.
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Introduction and Background
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Hello, and welcome to the Justin's Drive podcast. I'm your host, Justin Puyese. If you love endurance sports, you've definitely come to the right place. On this show, we'll talk to athletes, coaches, and professionals who can help us reach our true potential.
Justin's Journey and Sponsorship
00:00:18
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Being a student of distance running for over 10 years and interviewing people in the sport for the last five, I've learned a ton, but there's always more to discover. Everyone has a story, and I know you'll resonate with each of our guests as we embark on this new journey together.
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Meet Antoine Joliqueur
00:01:14
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Today, we have a very special guest with us. He's a triathlete, an author, and a coach who has inspired many with his dedication and passion for the sport. Please join me in welcoming Antoine Joliqueur. Antoine's journey in triathlon is nothing short of extraordinary. From grueling training sessions to crossing finish lines, he's not just competed but excelled, embodying the spirit of perseverance and resilience.
00:01:39
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As an author, he shared his insights and experiences, offering a wealth of knowledge to both novice and seasoned athletes. And as a coach, he's guided countless individuals towards achieving their personal bests, fostering not just better athletes, but stronger, more confident individuals. In today's episode, we'll delve into Antoine's experiences, the lessons he's learned along the way, and his advice for anyone looking to push their limits and achieve their goals.
00:02:08
Speaker
Whether you're an aspiring triathlete, an endurance enthusiast, or someone seeking inspiration, this conversation promises to be packed with valuable takeaways. So, lace up your shoes, get ready to be inspired, and let's get started. Hey Antoine, welcome to the Justin Strive Podcast. Your first time on this show, not not our first time speaking though. Yeah, dick thanks for having me. Yeah.
00:02:33
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Yeah. I mean, there's a lot to unpack with me. We haven't spoken probably, you know, stay in touch, but not spoke about, you know, interviews or anything like that in about five years. So, so much has transpired. I know you got into ultra running. I knew you as a triathlete, as a pro triathlete. um What's going on with you lately?
00:02:52
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Yeah, it's been quite a long time. I think like maybe like four or five years. So yeah, well still I still doing been doing a lot of triathlon but like since 2020 I've been getting more into ultra running just I think because of Covid like 2020 there was no triathlon races and i'm I'm used to traveling a lot for triathlon races and because COVID you couldn't do that so I sort of decided to register for UTHC which was in September in Charlevoix in Quebec so I did my first ADK race so for the past few years I've been well
00:03:31
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I've been like an hybrid athlete, so doing but both triathlon and ultra running races. And right now, i'm ah um did
Antoine's Sporting Evolution
00:03:41
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ah I a few, well, two weeks ago, and now I'm training for ETHC, the same race I did, but 125. So it's going to be my longest, longest one. So ah I'll see, like maybe for the... a few years I'll be focusing more on trail running, but it's still up in the air what i'll what I'll do for the next few years, but just living life and doing some endurance events and yeah. But from what I remember, you've you've always liked to get into the woods and to like running wise, you know, this is something that ah you're pack quite passionate about also. So is it an easy transition for you to go into trail running and
00:04:22
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yeah and Are they complementary? For that, I've actually done ah Trans Montreal, which is like a 60k rate from like, well, it starts like in St. Louis, Belgium and goes completely east of Montreal. It's kind of like, it doesn't exist now, but it's like, it was a pretty cool event, like ah Even though it's not on the trail, I really like ah that ultra-running event. So I've always liked to do a lot of I've lived in the Le Francine all my life. So I've been used to doing ah playing in the woods. And my background before doing a triathlon is a cross country skiing. So i I've always been some someone who and really enjoys ah just playing around, doing end different sports, whatever and the sport is, whether it's running, cross country skiing, or cycling.
00:05:10
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hey Yeah, maybe we can get into that, actually, your upbringing and stuff. Was that something that your parents promoted a lot, or was it something you naturally gravitated towards? ah It just was something natural, like ah growing up in St. Andelac, it's like a small village, small town. And I just had to cross the across the street, and there was like super nice cross country skiing trails.
00:05:35
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so being super young like ah we went with my parents. My parents were super active. my My mom used to be a water polo player and an open water swimmer. And I grew up next to a lake. It's like perfect environment to just play sport and so I discovered cross country skiing, I really like it and I've competed, I've done some competition in like in Quebec, Canada, maybe a few times in the USA and after a while I just, well the season is so short like winter season so you have to train all year long so in the summer we do
00:06:11
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ah running, we do cycling and since I've been like swimming ah for fun I just decided to do a triathlon and I've really enjoyed it. So for a few years I was doing both but then once you like reach a level of competition you you sort of have to make a decision like if you want to focus 100% of cross-country skiing or 100% triathlon and i'll just enjoy triathlon because you've got three sports so you never really get bored and because ah i feel like you can train a lot more in triathlon like in the season it's a lot more uh longer i felt it was an easy decision to to do to switch to triathlon and it's been like uh right now i'm 21 and it's been uh
00:06:55
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over like 15 years, 16 years maybe that I've done track on and I've been professional for the past maybe 10 years. So it's been quite a long time. Yeah. Yeah. You're just like one of those staples in triathlon. Like you're always doing the Ironman like the 7.3s and more trombone and like doing the home races and stuff like that. You're just like, you're just like, uh, you know, the hometown guy, to two you know, and then traveling also. So it's, it's kind of cool. Like,
00:07:23
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Did you recognize potential in yourself or did you have somebody to guide you down that path? you know was It was sounds like it was very natural for you, but do you have kind of a mentor to kind of guide you down that direction?
00:07:37
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ah Yeah, like once I started I was in a small club called Trianor in the Laurentines and like ah my my coach, a friend of mine and me, my coach was was like, you both guys have good potential. So I recommend that you join ah like ah another coach, which is like more our competition level in Montreal. So so I've just, we've we both like all kind of increase our level of competition and it's I started racing with like a smaller distance like sprint triathlon and and with like the drafting so it's called an ITU like International Triathlon Union so there's like all sorts of levels you've got the triathlon cup and then you go ah if you perform well you do like the
00:08:26
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Continental Cup and Pan American Cup and then up to like World Cup level ah So I never done the like WTS level all which is like the highest level you can reach in in triathlon But I've always found that I wasn't really good in the short distance I've really always liked the speed to perform well, especially on the running. So even when I was doing As a junior, I was always trying to to race with the senior and do like the Olympic distance. So like one one time for like the the national race, the sprint and the Saturday. And ah as a junior and ah the Sunday, I did the Olympic distance with the senior. So I always enjoy more the longer distance. That's why the switch to after a man and our men was quite quite a.
00:09:16
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easy switch for me because I've always enjoyed more that longer distance and I've always looked up to the the long distance guy like Chris McCormack or Craig Alexander and I've always wanted to like race in like Kona so yeah I always enjoy like I like to do the long distance stuff for training and like for racing it makes sense to do that walk with races too.
00:09:38
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And um wait so where would you say your your strengths lie you know in triathlon? Because you know you were cross-country skiing, so I've built like a probably a huge endurance base. And your mom was a swimmer and a follow-up player, so you probably got some good tips from her. And you like did some biking and running growing up. So like where would you say you're your biggest strength is as a triathlon?
00:10:01
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ah Yeah it's weird like when I started triathlon like I was but a bad swimmer and like I really remember my swimming coach like pulled me outside and on one day the pool is like you need to start to learn to swim so he was like teaching me how to swim like outside the pool like looking at the mirror in
Training Philosophy and Approach
00:10:19
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the So but I've worked a lot on the swim because when you're you're competing in triathlon I2 distance like it doesn't matter how fast you can run if you can make the the peloton like the pack on the bike you're gonna finish like last or year you won't be competing and that's something we saw like in the Olympic Games like there was a good USA guy Matt McElroy he can win like the best uh competing in the best podium and even win the WTS races but like
00:10:49
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his strength is not swimming and he didn't make the pack and he was far away but if you you were in the pack you would have probably maybe being the podium artist at the top five. So the swimming is so important in ITU so you have to swim a lot. So I've improved a lot in my swimming and when so swimming became my my strength ah but since like yeah and then biking was my middle discipline and running has always been my weakest but since Covid I was like I really need to improve my ah
00:11:24
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my running and because there was no competition I was like I really gonna focus on that and but doing some ultra running races and doing long distance training ah it helped me a lot on my running and for the past few years I feel like ah running has been ah which was my weakest now is like one of my strengths and like for the first first time, like yeah last ah few weeks ago in like, ca in like, ah instead of being passed on the run, I was able to pass a few people. So it's kind of cool that to see that even if like, sometimes we have a mindset that we're like, Oh, running is my weakest. So you like sticks into your mind that it's always going to be a weakest, but it's stuff that that can change and like,
00:12:12
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For sure, like if you put a lot more time on on a discipline like running, maybe your swimming is going to decrease that a little bit. So I feel like I'm less good ah at swimming than I was before. But I'm at a good level. i I am still in the like maybe I'm gonna top five or top 10 after the swim so I don't lose that much time but I feel like I'm more balanced as a triathlete as I was before. Before I was I think I was spending way too much time swimming trying to always like be in a top three or
00:12:45
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force out the the swim and losing losing too much energy just spending too much energy just trying to to be a good swimmer and that's I think my biking and my running was ah weak because of that because I wasn't spending that enough time ah biking and running. So now I think I'm more balanced and in long distance track on, you need to be a good biker and a good runner. So it doesn't matter that much if you're a little bit slower on the swim. So yeah. Where is that? I didn't think about that strategy in the shorter distance stuff with the swimming because it gets crucial in an Ironman. Forget it. Like you don't really care where you come out or you care, of course, that you want to be in it. But
00:13:32
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you know, winning the race on the swim, but like you can lose it in an ITU event, like a shorter distance. Yeah. Like when I would see like Sam Long is like, he's a weaker swimmer. Like there's some T100 races is like a few minutes back on the swim and it's going to pass everyone on the bike and run. Like, and that's where the, it happens. Uh,
00:13:54
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For sure, it's a disadvantage like for people who if you have to. like Right now, the level at Ironman and Ironman races is so strong that people now are like good in the three sports. So if there's a sport, you're really, really bad. like It's going to be really hard to out bike like the those people. Like Ditlev is the top on the bike and on the run. And now it's pretty good on the swim. So if you have to.
00:14:22
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But ah you're coming out a few minutes out of back on the swim. It's going to be really hard to catch him on the back on the run. So now you almost can't have any bad, bad. You can't have weakness on the throttle now. Hey, you better be balanced than to have one strength and then two weaknesses or vice versa.
00:14:45
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What would you say are some ways you can improve like as a swimmer, as a biker, and as a runner also? ah feel like The thing I've done, which I've helped me a lot, is to train with people who are way better than me. Like for for the swim, I've always swam with the real swimmer, like not in a triathlon club. And I feel that that has improved helped me a lot, because you're always going to get beat at every set, every morning. But then that's like, it's a motivation to to work harder. And same thing for like,
00:15:22
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for cycling right now I cycle a lot by myself but when I have the opportunity and I can train with like a friend who have like professional gravel racers so when I travel and train with them like ah it's always like hard on the ego but then that helps me push a lot and then when you're coming back um training alone you're like well I need to improve a lot so When you're training with people that are faster than you, it just makes you want to train more and improve a lot. And you can just improve by tiny stuff. You see how the technique is better than you, so you're you're trying to just... yeah
00:16:01
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You're like a sponge, you know? So you you're you're learning a lot just from training with better people from you. And I have trained a lot with the trail runner. So that helped me a lot. So I pretty much never train with triathletes. I always train with the swimmer bikers or or runners. And I feel that helped me a lot. And I feel like you need to have fun training. For me, that's really important. ah So I really like to do gravel rides, trail running, ah ah running, I always like to to run on the trails and in the mountains. And because that's what I enjoy, I spend a lot of time doing it. And that's what helps me a lot because you you have to train so much to perform well in Ironman. So if you don't enjoy it, you won't be able to spend that much hours training. So you need to find stuff that
00:16:53
Speaker
that you like. So for me, I've really enjoyed more like doing a six hour gravel ride than maybe a four or five hour ride on the TT. And I feel like it still is going to help me as much. yeah And I'm actually going to spend a lot more time on the bike because it's just so, so fun and just, I'll just like exploring. So I feel like a maybe don't have a conventional way of training.
00:17:19
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But the that allowed me to to be in the sport for like so many so many years and to still really enjoy yeah written training. So I think it's the key to to be able to to train and to compete for such a long time and all your career. Yeah, yeah and I think it's interesting that you say that. because like When people think about training for triathlon, they probably have an image of what that looks like, you know, and you're app proving that you can do it another way. You don't have to be on the TT bike. You don't have to run the road. You don't have, you know, um, there's, there's, there's other ways to do it. And that's in a sense, you're doing kind of a cross training within the sport too, right? It's not like.
00:18:02
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just because you're racing on the road, doesn't mean you have to train on the road. And, and so you're in the trails and that's kind of, that's kind of nice to hear that too. and but And I feel like in just my philosophy, like some people drs really like to, like I train some people and some people really like to do all the training under their trainer indoor because it's for them is the most efficient way to train. and And for me, even if I know that for my intervals, maybe it's better to do it under the trainer because it's going to be like more precise. I just enjoy more to to go on the road and like,
00:18:36
Speaker
you You have to to do, like for me, it's like, even if i I'm racing as a professional, it's still just OB, like I don't make a living doing it. So I'm not enjoying it. Like, what's the the point? That's the way I see it. So you need to do what you enjoy. And I feel like I've been involved to perform well and doing that way of training, which is maybe I feel like it's an alternative way of training, but it's, it works well. And, um, I think it's important to to enjoy it. So because what's the point of of training and racing triathlon if you don't don't like it. Ben, did you but you always have the idea to go pro to always be a professional? And did you have an image of what being a professional was compared to you know what it is now for you 10 years later?
00:19:22
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ah Well, when I was younger, the goal was like to go to the Olympics because like when you're racing, ah like IT racing, that's like the level you want to reach. right ah But also, ah like I said, ah also always look up to people who are racing Ironman.
00:19:38
Speaker
and that Yeah, that was the goal also to to go to go as a pro and like when I so make the switch from ITU to long distance I race once as an age group and I run the overall age group and add the choice between either race as age group the following year and compete at the world championship or get my pro license and compete as a pro and the choice for me was super easy like to go as a pro because I felt like that was the way to to improve the most.
Nutrition and Race Strategies
00:20:10
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I much prefer being really far away as a pro and like getting my ass kicked, then maybe winning as an age group and not really learning as much or improving as much. So I feel like yeah being beaten and not winning and like being really far away, but like being able to compete as a pro with
00:20:33
Speaker
people who are really good at it makes you want to to improve more and train more. And that's, I feel like that was the the what I wanted to to do. Yeah. So so what were the some of the bigger lessons that you did learn by becoming a professional?
00:20:48
Speaker
Yeah, de ah you sort of learn by your mistakes. you know like the Because like swimming was my strength, I've always like led other swims or been in the top two or three other swims. Being like a young guy like trying to to race, I've always like pushed way too much on the on the bike. and like My goal, as always, like I'm going to try to lead on the bike like for as long as I can. So first race like was maybe like 40k on the bike. And then I get passed by Sanders. Every year, it's like, OK, now I got passed at 50k, now 60k. But like then I would would completely blow out. And that appended a few times in the Atherman races. My first Atherman race I did, too. I was racing with like ah Luke Vanjolle.
00:21:36
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a legend in the sport. You've won like a few times. Yeah, the world champion will record for Ironman. And i I was a super young guy. First Ironman, I tried to follow him on the bike and I completely blew out on the run I just completely collapsed at like 25k. So you learn from those mix mistake mistakes and then you you realize that you have to to do your own race and pace well your your effort because you won't be able to um to survive in Ironman if you're trying to to follow the Bass Racer. So ah that's what ah the best lesson I've learned and also to be to think about more about nutrition. For my first Ironman, I was just like, I'm just going to double what I eat for my 70.3. But like you can't just like do an Ironman just eating gels. like
00:22:29
Speaker
ah For my first ever man, I was like so bloated. Like I was just eating like yeah my Lugo nojels, which was like extra sodium. And I felt like I think I just retained so much water because I had so much sodium. And for the second lap on the the bike, I couldn't eat anything. And that's one of the reasons I completely blew out on the run. So so now like my nutrition is much more dallian and I always have like you need to have like your A ah nutrition strategy, your B nutrition strategy, your CED, like always have other options and don't like ah i've always have multiple options to eat so not only gels but also like
00:23:13
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uh drink uh gummies and like other stuff so if you get sick of eating gels and you feel like you can't absorb gels anymore you have other options that you can fall back on and that's that that's the key like you need to have a good plan but you need to be able to adapt well and that's what i've learned too in racing ironman races or ultra running races is like It's never going to go as well as you plan to. And like so you need to be able to to add up to to it. and Because sometimes you see people who are like, or like I need to eat like 120 grams of carbs. and
00:23:51
Speaker
They're like bloated, they're like starting to vomit, but they're still trying to eat 120 grams of carbs. like You need to be able to add up, and if you feel like it doesn't work out, ah you need to be be able to adjust your strategy on the spot. and That's the thing. you you You're not really going to learn it.
00:24:11
Speaker
by me telling it to do it. You sort of have to learn it by making this that mistake once in a race. And once you've made that mistake, you you won't make it again. Yeah. For me, it was Ironman, my second Ironman in trombone. Same thing. My stomach shut down on the run. I loved the running portion. I was waiting for it the whole day, you know? And then I couldn't eat anything. I couldn't drink anything. I felt like I didn't know if I had to throw up or what then you need to do. So it's like, I'm just like, what do I need to do to reset my stomach? you know And it's the worst feeling, you know especially when the body feels like it can continue, but you just can't consume anything to help you move forward, right? so Yeah, like for an afterman, if you've eaten well and run on the bike, you can sort of like,
00:24:59
Speaker
go to enough marathon without feeling that much. Or like for a full Ironman, you can't fake it. You need like you need fuel, you need energy. Because you always start your marathon with like negative energy. So it's it's hard. like yeah and Nutrition is such a big part of ultra distance training, whether it's Ironman or ultra running. yeah And we just did a series on nutrition. So it's, it's, it's fun that you're talking about it, but is there, um, is there like a basic setup that you would suggest, let's say to somebody, like, is there like a bare minimum that you would say, or a starting point for somebody who doesn't really, like, you know, athletes getting into the sport, let's face it, they don't, they don't know nutrition unless someone's coaching them about that right away. It's an afterthought. It's like, Oh, I got a thumb hand.
00:25:50
Speaker
doing a marathon, I need to run to run a marathon and I'll eat whatever's on the courts. That's how I used to think it was. Yeah. Would you say like, is there like a starting point that everyone can kind of use immediately? And and I like what you said about the options too to have like, yeah, get sick of this. Maybe at least you know, you can have something else. Yeah. I feel like obviously nutrition is like anything else is like you need to try it on the and training. Yeah. And, uh,
00:26:20
Speaker
there's a new trend right now it's like eat as much carb as you can but like sometimes it can be dangerous to like to eat way too much especially if you haven't prepared it so I would suggest people to like maybe start with like 45 50 grams of carb per hour in training and so that's maybe like ah two two gels per hour or like one gels and like one big bottle with lots of carbs in it per hour try it and if you feel feels really good you feel like you you don't feel too bloated your gi works well then you start like ah going to 60 grams 70 75 90 grams and then you can start to up your your nutrition and once you go up to more than 60 grams that's when it's important to
00:27:07
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to mix your type of ah ah carbohydrate sources. So like not don't only eat glucose, you need to mix with glucose, fructose, or glucose and sucrose. So you maximize your way to absorb those carbohydrates.
00:27:22
Speaker
and ah I feel like also when you start to go on the higher end of carbohydrates intake that's when it starts to become interesting to mix with the like maybe I have two gels but also three gummies and ah maybe at 20 grams of carbs liquid carbs so then you have different type of of fuels that you can intake and ah for like longer races like an hour man that now it can be interesting to also eat some more solid stuff like ah a bar, energy bars or maybe even like a banana. I feel like sometimes it can help you to settle your stomach a little bit but sometimes it can be hard to just stick with gels or just always liquid calories so maybe at the
00:28:11
Speaker
100k mark on the bike starts with Afro energy bar, Afro banana and ah for the run it's like the most basic stuff. So gels, gummies and coke or anything like a sport drink or even energy drink.
00:28:29
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and then Yeah, so try try stuff in training. and Sometimes you also don't need that. They're the super expensive stuff. Like sometimes just sour patch kids ah can work pretty well. Or like yeah you can also make your own sports drink with like maple syrup. or no Yeah. So now there's like tons of tons of options. Like personally, I i work with the like I'm I work as a
00:29:00
Speaker
research and development director for chrono nutrition. So we're going to promote ti our products, but there's a ton of options. So try try every lots of things. Like sometimes you can try a specific amount of coverage rates for one brand, but it's maybe it's not go it's going to work better with another brand. So try a different thing. Try a different caffeine intake, electrolytes and things like that. There's so many things you can tweak.
00:29:25
Speaker
ah So the earlier you can start like pra practicing it in your training and ah making it more dial-in as possible, the better it's going to be for your for your races. And like I said, even if it seems perfect for your for your training and everything, maybe it's not going to work out perfectly on your race, so you need to be able to add adjust well.
00:29:46
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and The one year people do is like, oh, well, I've tried maybe 90 grams of carbohydrate. It works really well on my training. But they haven't really tried doing it at the race space intensity. And when you're going super fast, it's like most of your your blood flow is going to go in your muscle because your muscle working really hard. So they let there is a lot less blood flow for your ah GI for gastro.
00:30:15
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your stomach to help you digest. So it's a lot harder to digest food when you're going super fast. So it's really important to not only practice pract your nutrition strategy when you're going slow, but also when you're going at your race-based intensity and especially like the best time to do it and when you're doing brick training. so bike-run training. That's when you're gonna feel it because usually it's pretty much it's pretty easy to eat a lot on a bike but it's on the the run that's the hardest. So the best test to do it is to run off the bike and you you're gonna see if you you've eaten too much or are not enough.
00:30:54
Speaker
Yeah, that's cool. And I actually did a Half Iron Man this year, first time in like five years. So it it was interesting. But that was one of the things I focused on actually was because I've been talking so much nutrition with people that I was like, I'm just going to try and fuel as much as I can during this event and see how I feel, you know? Yeah.
00:31:15
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And I purposely did it, you know, I had, like you said, I had bar on the bike and I had some good like carbs in my drink. And i so I made sure I was doing like staying on top of it. And I actually felt really awesome. i Despite my training or didn't wasn't, my training wasn't the best, but at least I had fuel for the event. And I was like, yeah.
00:31:35
Speaker
It's noticeable, I have to say, it you know, when you do it. when your like is running Yeah, like for the past ah maybe two two or three years, I've started to eat a lot more on the bike.
00:31:47
Speaker
And ah even like for a league pass in last year, I had one of my band's best race ever. And like actually, like I was feeling pretty bad on the first loop of the bike. So I decided, like ah we're going to eat a lot more. So ah basically like I one strategy I do is I put all my gels in one iRobot on the bike. So I put like eight or nine gels in my my bottle.
00:32:14
Speaker
But I actually finished my old bottle like on the first lap, which has what I plan to eat for the entire bike. So I ah went to the A station. I i was like, give me all your job.
00:32:25
Speaker
I took a bunch of the gels that they gave out. So I ate like way much what I planned to do. And I felt like so good on the run. I was able to finish really well on the bike and I had one of my best marathons. So I think like feeling well on the bike.
00:32:44
Speaker
you you actually like feel so much better on the start of the run and that's what helps you to to run so so much better. like It's crazy how much feeling can have have a big impact on the run. so When you bunk on the run, especially on a marathon in an Ironman, usually it's not because you haven't trained enough on the youre running it's maybe you've biked too much or maybe you haven't fueled enough on the bike. Super important. So what did you do? You dr you drank your gels? Because you said you put your gels in your bottle. Yeah so I put all my gels because I don't want to spend time having to like open the gels and then I have like sticky sticky ends and you know what to do with my ah empty gels. So I just put all my gels in my my bottles and I drink it. I like a
00:33:36
Speaker
So I put my chrono gels and my bottles and I put some water so it's not too Okay, okay I've seen I've seen for dinner doing it in a race. I was like, well, that's pretty smart So you pretty much have like 1,000 calories in the bottle. The only issue with it is like my ah this year of race Center for the Chattanooga And there's tons of bumps, like there's lots of railways. And I've lost my buy bottles on the like, maybe 20, 10 or 15k on the bike. I was like, Oh, shit. I'm like, all my calories are gone. so that That's a like, it's a good thing. But like, if it you've lose it, you're kind of ah
00:34:25
Speaker
in deep water, so you always always carry like other gels or other gummies extra um in case that happens. Since it happened, now I been have other options. yeah you keep it in your shirt or where do you keep the extra stuff? I have some in my ah yeah nutrition box and ah some in my shirts too. Yeah. Okay. Nice. And if I lose some, like I always have like, uh, that's always jealous in the, on the course so that I can grab in case. Yeah. Um, would you say that's where you're improving the sport the most? Like,
00:35:02
Speaker
Where did you see the biggest progress? ah you know You said you had your best race not too long ago, so and you've been doing it quite some time. Yeah, I feel like ah it's both. I've improved a lot on my running, and the trail running has helped me a lot. I think physically, but also mentally. like Once you've done an ADK or 100K race,
00:35:26
Speaker
doing a marathon doesn't seem that as big. I was coming out and out of the bike and I was like dreading the the run. I was like, oh shit, I need different ah a marathon. But now I'm like, well, I've run like more than twice that. So it doesn't feel as big. And also, like ah I like to do long runs in my training, so it's not that irregular that I'm going to run a marathon in training like yeah a few weeks before and my Ironman. So that but prepares me well for the Ironman races. But also I feel so like ah feel like my marathon has improved a lot, but also I feel that
00:36:10
Speaker
pacing a lot better. So not going too fast on the bike, but also the fueling on the bike and the run has helped me a lot. So there's a few things that I think has helped me
Mental Resilience in Sports
00:36:23
Speaker
a lot, but also I feel like every year you just increase your your endurance and you you start getting ah getting better. ah yeah And you're probably smarter too, right? You're you're more, you're wiser and and more mature and you know, you know, there's also the ego part of it. So before I was like, well, I'm going to stick to that guy, even if I'm going to blow out in like DNF. But then you realize, well, that's maybe not the smartest idea. So then you it's kind of hard to do it. But sometimes if a good good writer it passes you, you have to make that decision to
00:37:03
Speaker
let him go, and hopefully he can run a good marathon and pass him back ah after. So you need to be smart and sometimes let the ego at the door and like be like and be confident. like I think I wasn't confident on my running ability, so I was like, i'm a but my mindset was like, I'm a bad runner, so I'm gonna go all in on the bike and just survive on the run.
00:37:30
Speaker
but I had to switch that mindset and like I'm a good runner so I need to do a good enough bike so I can perform the best I can on the run so I think mentally you need to to have that switch and sometimes I feel like ah was like undervaluing my ability and not being enough confident. And I guess I was thinking, oh, I'm just super confident on my biking ability. But actually, I was just underconfident on my running ability. So it's something you need to think about and ah switch time that mindset. I feel like
00:38:09
Speaker
The mental part and your mindset is so important in endurance part. It's something you need to think about how you plan your races. What would you say is your greatest accomplishment in the sport?
00:38:23
Speaker
ah One thing is just to be still like... Being a pro like that many years after like not not giving up, there's so many times I've thought about giving up, and especially like Covid. I was like, I'm done. like There's no way like I'm going to continue like training without knowing if I'm going to race again.
00:38:47
Speaker
But as the artist part, like artists here for me was like 2021, because it's like, I've gone through COVID, I've gone through it like one year of networking, but 2021 I've injured myself in that injury, like even continue until the start of 2022. It was like a tendonitis in my big toe, which is sounds like ah such a small injury, but it's like an injury that affected me like for such a long time. I was like,
00:39:19
Speaker
I was still training a lot. like I was preparing for our own races. I would still like do so crazy like long runs, but then I was doing going through that the runs with so much pain. And then I was walking and it was so painful on the run. So it was a big year of like just like training a lot, but nothing being able to race. So I just wanted to to give up. and So being able to continue and like the ah persevere ah if I think that's my getting as I'm the most proud. But if you think about, like talk more about races, winning Canada men in 2022, especially since this was my first races after COVID, my injury, that was like something I was super proud.
00:40:11
Speaker
uh it was super cool like to do it with like my friend who was pissing me, my family who was cooing me uh and I think it was my probably my best race ever or at least one of my best race ever I was like sort of in a full state I was feeling so good like I had one of my best marathon also so I was really happy about that and just it was just good positive day uh And the lake passage last year, I think it was my fastest Ironman race, but it's such a hard course.
00:40:49
Speaker
Like it's not supposed to, you know, not supposed to PB in our lake passes because it's such a hard but race and that's super good, and good run. So those two races are the races I'm the most proud. And for ultra running, it was the ADK UTHE in 2020. That was also sort of a race that was like such an ah I wasn't good physically, I was super good, but I'm super proud of how mentally I was able to to push through. i was such an like It was sort of makes a positive but also dark place in um my head. I was able to push myself such in a ah dark spot. it's like I wasn't allowing myself to walk even for like a few seconds and I was pushing myself that much because
00:41:40
Speaker
I've just trained, I never trained just for one race because there was COVID, there was no no racing at all, so I was i one really wanted to perform well, so I was really happy with with that one, but mostly because, not because of the result, but because how much I was able to to push myself. And that's the thing ah I want to achieve at every race I do. It's not the result. It's not my time or my position. It's like I want to go in that dark spot where it's like everything hurts, but you're still pushing yourself to your best. yeah Would you say the the trail races or that ADK is even more challenging than, let's say, an Iron Man or something like that?
00:42:25
Speaker
it's sort of different ah Mentally, it's really hard but because in Ironman, it's like for the EDK, it was maybe like a seven hour race and Ironman is like maybe an eight hour race. It's similar. But in Ironman, you've got three disciplines. So it's like you sort of i have like mental breaks. It's like, okay, now I'm done swimming. Now I'm going to do the biking. And in Ironman races, there's lots of more strategy and you see a lot more people.
00:42:58
Speaker
But in an ultra-uplifting race, you're alone in your in the forest. And that's the odd part. So mentally, I feel like ultra-running races are are pretty hard. And ah in February, I did a 100K race in Arizona.
00:43:17
Speaker
And that was the hardest thing mentally I've done because ah I've been in, I was injured for all the preparation for it. And also I had COVID just before flying there. But because I like I booked the Airbnb, I booked my flight, I was like, I'm still going to try to do it.
00:43:35
Speaker
but I had to pretty much walk the last 50K or most of the 50K. So mentally, that was the hardest thing I've ever done. The race took me at least three hours more than what I planned to do. So mentally, that was the hardest thing to do, just to be able to not... You're so far away from the top.
00:44:01
Speaker
uh so far away from the time you want to do but you're still pushing through and that's mentally super hard but i feel like i'm still proud of it because i push through and that is gonna i feel like that's gonna help me for all the other races i'm gonna do because you know that you can suffer through for 11 hours and uh that's i think being able to do those push through to the bad races is really important because yeah It makes you mentally ah stronger. and And that's not something a lot of pros do. you know so Some drop out. you know yeah and now ah yeah But sometimes it's the smart thing to do. Especially if you have
00:44:50
Speaker
in injury or if you feel like you're pushing through an injury and that's continuing, it's going to make it worse. Maybe it's not the smart thing to push through. I felt like I wasn't injured. I felt I could still push through. Even at COVID, I feel like I was healthy enough to to push through and not get more sick or more injured.
00:45:12
Speaker
and And yeah, sometimes the for for pros who like make a living from it, ah sometimes it's the smartest thing to DNF, because maybe you can do another hour and then race two weeks like ah later, and then you can actually make money from it. For me, which is, I want to compete at the highest level, all but for me still, ah ah be from I'm not making any money from it. So for me, it's like I feel it's important for ah myself like the respect ah for myself because I know I'm gonna be in a really dark space for months and months if I DNF and I know and for the respect for all the other competitors for the races in itself I want be both to able to
00:46:01
Speaker
I have that respect for everyone else and be able to to push through and like, it's so such a humbling experience to be like, because I want to race Black Canyon, I want to do it. I was a really good place at maybe the 30K race. I was like with the really good people, but then I finished like so far away. So there was at least like 50, 60 people who've just passed me for the from to 100k. It's such an humbling thing, but that humbling experience is going to make you stronger. And ah when once the next time you're going to race, you're going to remember that humbling experience and you're going to have that extra mindset. So I feel like it's sort of like there's physical training, but there's also mental training and that's
00:46:49
Speaker
You can have that mental training or mental experience by training. It's only in that those specific races or specific moment that are super, super hard mentally that you're going to build to like reach that higher level of mental strength. So I feel like for me, it was important to just push through and go through it. even So even with all your experience of all the years of endurance training and racing and There were so some surprises for you going into an ultra race like that. Yeah, like it was my longest, longer race. And I also knew like, because of my injury, I wasn't able to do the training I wanted to do. Like the longest run I've done was maybe 40k. So I knew I wasn't prepared. So I knew I was going to go through
00:47:41
Speaker
something that's going to push me both physically and mentally. So yeah, even if I have lots of experience, like as a triathlete and as a ultra runner, I still experienced something that I wasn't prepared to do. And that's really what I like to do. That's what i still want to do that's that's why I went to do a Canada man, because it was something that was so much different than a normal Ironman races that's when I like to do like ultra gravel race or that's why I just registered for one in june twenty five a trail running race because I know it's gonna push me through.
Future Endeavors and Education
00:48:19
Speaker
ah Even if I have the best race ever I'm still gonna suffer maybe as I've never suffered before and that's something um it's weird to say but it's something I'm looking for because I know it's gonna make me ah
00:48:32
Speaker
a better athlete ah and mentally a lot stronger even if it's a bad ah super good race a bad race i'm gonna learn a lot from it and that's what i'm looking forward to it it's like i'm looking forward to to race races that are challenging mentally and physically yeah and would you say that's what motivates you the most it sounds like that's what makes you tick you know at this stage Yeah, I feel like ah I used to be super motivated by ah maybe like increasing my FTP time on the bike or increasing my my time on the run. ah But right now, it's been I feel like it's been so long that I've been in the sport. For me, it's not the time or the performance. It's just the going in the unknown. That's what I want to to do for the next few few races.
00:49:22
Speaker
maybe it's not going to be in triathlon, maybe it's going to be more in ultra running races. I still don't know, but no matter what it is, I know it's going to be like end-to-end sports because I'm not good and I don't really like this short stuff. So it's just finding crazy races ah and pushing myself and pushing myself physically and mentally. That's what I want to do. And I want to... I'm a good place in my my life with the Physically, also like in my my work, and ah I have lots of flexibility and so I want to like be able to travel a lot ah and do the craziest race I can i can find ah and just challenge myself with it. ah So you have something in mind already or not yet? you know
00:50:06
Speaker
Yeah, I have a big bucket list. like ah Mostly for ultra-running races, I want to do all the the biggest ones. UTMB for sure is the one big goal. There's La Diagonal de Fous, which sounds like such a crazy event. And there's all the the big ones in the States, which is like Leadville, Western States, and Hardrock are crazy events. there are Also like maybe some gravel races and there's a small part in me who would like to do like the Leadville double, which is like to do the Leadville on the mountain bike and then like a few weeks later the Leadville ultra running races. so
00:50:48
Speaker
I also want to try to do maybe ah swim, ah swim, run races, which sounds like super fun. I've done it by myself during COVID because I live in St. Andelec, which is the best place to do it. There's tons of legs and that sounds like such a cool event. Just swimming, biking, ah swimming and running ah for for hours and hours and and challenging place.
00:51:14
Speaker
So yeah, right now I'm in a place where I just want to find cool events and I want to be able to do it for as long as I can and still challenge myself. Yeah. That's so great. I mean, you know, you mentioned a few times now that it's, you know, this sport is a hobby for you, you know, and that's, that's great. And and you can still do that pro level, but on the back, back end of it, you know, you also and a lot of spend a lot of your time you know getting an education and and and something that complements the sport that you're doing. And if you want to talk a little bit about that, I i also know you came up with a book. So something tells me it's kind of all led to this point. you know
00:51:53
Speaker
Yeah, so I've always been passionate about sports science and so I did a double bachelor in nutrition and and food science because my goal when I was younger was always to like start my own like sport nutrition company and I've always been so interested in nutrition.
00:52:10
Speaker
So after that I decided to do a master in sports science and right now I'm ah completing my ah my PhD in sports science in Shabrook. So right now I'm really interested in thermal regulation so how you can perform best ah in warm races. so When you do a PhD, you have to do like three different articles to have your thesis. So one of my research was studying IPE graduation with the visa role. So out to instead of beginning in a race or an event,
00:52:47
Speaker
with the normal level of adhesion how you can start being hyper-raduated so drink a lot of water with the glycerol solution which helps you return return that water so that you can finish the the race or that event.
00:53:03
Speaker
So that was my first article. The second one was like and doing a validation study study on a the core sensor, which is a sensor to estimate our core body temperature. And my third third one, which should be published really soon, it's about ah the Omius headband, which a lot of people are using it right now, which is a cooling device, which helps to cool the the forehead. So my goal was to to see if it actually really helps to cool yourself, both on the forehead, but also like your old body and ill if it can help you perform better. So ah those are my three studies for my PG and that's super cool because it's like
00:53:48
Speaker
things I'm really interested about in the stuff I can also show bring in. I can actually use myself in my racing, but I also can use it with my coaching too. So I can coach my athletes. And, uh, as you said, for the past, I recently published a book called, um, definitely it's something I've always wanted to do to publish a book either about track on or sport nutrition.
Antoine's Book and Research
00:54:16
Speaker
And, uh,
00:54:19
Speaker
The editor company contacted me ah one year ago, and or a few, a bit more than one year ago, and it was like, ah there's a big interesting triathlon right now. We feel like you're a, you could be a good person to write that book. So I was like, well, I'm super buzzy right now with my PhD and training and stuff, but yeah, that seems interesting. I like ah good, I feel like it was good,
00:54:48
Speaker
challenge for me to to do that, the writing that book while doing everything else. And so it was a super, super interesting thing to do. And I was super happy when the book come out. And ah I've seen a lot of people have given me like good feedback on it. So I'm super, super but happy about it.
00:55:07
Speaker
Nice. And so what were the results of your studies that you've done? Yeah, for like the the last one I did about Omos at Ben, it's really the, well, it was a super hard study for people to do it. It's like, because they were doing a 70 minutes of running at 35 degrees Celsius. And then they were doing a 5K temporal on the treadmill. So it was super challenging for them. And what's super interesting is that we 3D printed our placebo. So they couldn't know if they were really really really wearing the real one or the the false one.
00:55:45
Speaker
ah and the omias had been actually helped to reduce the forehead temperature but it didn't have any impact or core body temperature so the the way we do it is we measure rectally so we have a rectal monitor ah so the only impact it adds so during the the 70 minutes which was submaximal it actually it reduced the forehead but it also reduced the perception of heat so it alters our perception of heat so that's why maybe some athletes are using it in races because it feels a bit cooler when you're using it but during the tiki they were pushing themselves so much the omius had no impact either on perception of heat or perceptionption or i
00:56:32
Speaker
actually sure ah for a temperature and didn't have an impact on the on time trial temperature. So for a study, the homeo said then wasn't really useful in improving performance. But obviously, obviously it's that in that specific ah test. So maybe for a longer races like a marathon, it could help.
00:56:54
Speaker
And if maybe it just helps you because you think he's going to help you, you you can still. ah yeah So I feel like it's it's awesome, much more like a placebo effect than an actual impact on performance.
00:57:09
Speaker
Okay, gotcha. And were there other, like, fine? Like, so do you use that? Or do you do other people, you know, use that too? or And all other people use it. And like in the triathlon, there was a few people who've used it in the Olympic Games. Even like the the guy who finished second in the Olympic Games used it.
00:57:27
Speaker
having seen like a I've watched the walk race and there were some people using it too. and Personally, I just prefer to use a a hat because what I like to do is just, because what's interesting is like the your head is really important for thermoregulation. It's your head that tells your body if you're cool or or super warm.
00:57:53
Speaker
So if you can actually trick your head into taking it's less warm than it is, it's going to help you to push harder. So what I like to do is just ah cool my head by having my what putting putting ah cold water on my hat or actually putting ice on my cap and putting it back on my head. And that's actually feels that it helps me even more than anything else. And i also just put lots of water on my body, lots of ice on my body too. So I feel that that's the like cooling strategy that as is the most helpful for me. And yeah,
00:58:32
Speaker
Yeah. And especially when you're doing those hot races, like that's something you gotta be able to manage as you. as you're going through it, flowing your pace a little bit, but also cooling the body temperature. So it's good to know that the head is the main component to that. Yeah, the head and the body, that's why we see a lot of people like, because you can do it cooling during the event, but there's lots of studies on pre-cooling. So what you can do before the event, it doesn't really apply to travel because, well, it's not a remedy thing though.
00:59:04
Speaker
because like the swim is so long so and usually in the morning it's not that warm but like what we see now in the Olympic Games like most people are having a cooling vest before the races so that they actually cool their body a lot of people are us actually ah trying to cool internally so by drinking cold water or Even drinking sludge and that's one of the most efficient way to to cool yourself or having a combination of like external external cooling so having that ice vest and Internal cooling with the sludge is the best way to cool yourself and we see a lot of people's also even for the like race walking event like people ah racing with
00:59:47
Speaker
cooling a cooling door neck with a cooling scarf or just ah a wet towel under their neck so there's Right now there's lots of studies on this because so it's a fascinating field of study because there's a lot more event that's going to happen in the in warm condition and especially with climate change. So I feel like a good good field of study right now because it's going to be a lot bigger issue for the following years. yeah So you almost done the PhD now.
01:00:20
Speaker
Yeah, I'm hoping to, well, I was hoping to finish it this summer, but real with training and everything else, it's been the super busy, but I'm hoping to submit it ah this fall. And then it takes a few months to for evaluation and to actually defend my thesis. ah So that's stressful thing like you need to have ah a jury with a few reviewers your so you present your study then they challenge you for one or two hours you have to be really on point like know everything else so that's going to be another challenge so that's going to probably be under the winter ah then I'm falling down with my with my study so that's ahm really looking forward to it
01:01:02
Speaker
but We have the endurance for it and the mental strength now, so you should be good. Yeah, I feel like there's lots of endurance athletes who are into into like academia. I don't know if because we're just interesting by stuff or just because we have the mental ability to just push ourselves for many years of hardship. Yeah, exactly.
01:01:24
Speaker
And so the book, tell us about the book. What did you, like, what did you discover by yourself by writing this book? And what does it include? It's only in French, I saw. Yeah, so I can show it to to you as it's close by.
01:01:39
Speaker
Yeah, nice yeah people like the design and everything like it has lots of pictures and some it's mostly for people who are beginners like ah people who want to get into a triathlon or people who have done triathlon for a few years but just want to get better and I even have like athletes I coach who've been doing like even Ironman races who still bought it and they find some entering stuff in it so ah The first part is just a talk about triathlon, like the history of triathlon, what equipment you need for triathlon, and then I delve more into the the physiology of of sport, endurance sport, also the different types of training you can do. ah
01:02:21
Speaker
like sweet spots training or 80-20-20 or pyramid training. And then I drove into the specific sports, so swimming, biking and running. So the technique, how you can improve in in swimming. And ah I give a specific training ah for both sprint, Olympic, and Ironman races for all the three sports. So if you go to to your local called swim, you can actually pick one of the training and just do it.
01:02:49
Speaker
and And also I have a section about nutrition, ah mental sports psychology, and also like how to perform when it's warm, how to reduce the risk of injuries. And one thing I think is really cool is I have I have some sections of exports. I call it the Conseil del Expa, so export tips. So I have a few friends of people i've been who have been helping me in my pro career. So like my physiotherapist i wrote a section about how to to deal with injuries. There's a guy who gives tips on ah why you should do a bike fit. There's a psychology student who's helped me with the sports psychology section. So there's lots of
01:03:39
Speaker
tips, bits in it. And there's also what I call it the coach tip. So there's a little on a square and I put my my coach tips about training or stuff like that, how to improve your transition or little things like that. So you don't need to like read the book from A to Z. You just can pick the thing that interests you the most. Or if you have a question about something you want to learn about something specifically, you can just look at it. yeah Do you think you you would have learned something from this book when when you first started going getting into triathlon? and you oh yeah yeah that That's the reason. like That's what I said in the in tradition. I really wish I had that book when I first started.
01:04:21
Speaker
Maybe that could have ah helped me a lot for a few races, like not make some mistakes too. Yeah. so And I really enjoyed that the process of writing a book. So my goal is maybe to do it like a definitely ultra runner, like in becoming an ultra runner. So maybe do a few more books about other sports and maybe sport nutrition and stuff like that. It's a super cool process to do. And it's cool to to see people, like I went to events, I've seen people with like, oh, I bought that book and I'm training for my first marathon, or I've used my book for my first argument. And it's like, oh, wow, that's really cool to actually see people who've used our book, yeah. And what do you think are the most common mistakes that athletes do make when they're first starting out?
01:05:10
Speaker
The biggest mistake is like, track things or people who want to get in track or people are super motivated. and That's a come come common characteristic of people. ah So they always, most people want to go into like, the biggest one, they want to go into Ironman right away. So one thing I talk about is taking the time to actually be become a traffic traffic become like traffic is our lifestyle so you need to take that time to actually go to maybe a super sprint then a sprint Olympic distance like going through all that steps it's going to take longer to get to your biggest goal but the the journey is going to be worthwhile and you've got to enjoy it and that makes it
01:05:59
Speaker
yeah you won't get injured after the few weeks of training because if you want to do an hourman too fast, and chances are you're going to either burn out or get injured. Even if that doesn't happen, you won't have the the best experience once once you do your hourman because you won't have enough time to actually prepare yourself well enough to You want to have the Ironman experience where you know you've prepared well enough and you can actually push yourself and that you can actually push through all the way to the end. So I feel like being too in pitch, too in a hurry is one of the biggest mistakes that a lot of people make here. Yeah, they rush through to get to the endurance event. Yeah. But it's an endurance event.
01:06:51
Speaker
need to ah do the Ironman. There's a lot of people who've never done Ironman. Some people, they're the distance they really like is the sprint. have Such as like people who do road running, their distance is the 5K. That's what you really want to do. And they always try to improve the 5K time. Like people who do sprint track on, they always want to improve their sprint time. like You don't need to always step up the distance. Find the distance that you like the most.
01:07:21
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And right now there's also exterior racing where like with the mountain bike, the trail running. There's a triathlon epic one, which is like we do gravel ah riding instead of road riding. So there's so much options now, so many distance too. There's even winter triathlons, so there's tons of options. So you can really find the the type of events or the type of distance that really ah suits you well.
01:07:50
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And your lifestyle too, because it's the training commitment as well like that you have to yeah you have to commit to. right so Even for me now, I've run marathons in Ironman, but I find the half distance is perfect. I can still train, doesn't take over my life. know but yeah You don't need to do the six, seven hours. five friday yeah that That's the one thing I talk about. It's one of my coach tips. is like If you want to do an environment, you actually need to sit down with your family and talk about it and and talk about the commitment it represents. You need to talk about like maybe I won't be
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there all the the sunday and saturday because i'm actually going to be training a lot so everyone needs to be you and you need the support of the the family but there's also ways that you can ah include your family in that and make make it more exciting for people to to be part of part of that. like So it and doesn't affect your family life or your yeah your couple life, you know? Yeah, exactly. I'm sure a lot of relationships end because of Iron Man, too. um So where so is this is there a plan to have it also in English, this book, eventually? Or is it only in French? Where can people find the book?
01:09:09
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ah Right now, it's only in French. I don't think we're going to make it in English, but that's something I would like to to do. Or maybe make a make one day a bigger book and in English, metaphor for Trothon. So right now, it's in Quebec, it's in most... ah bookstores, but you can also book it in a cube leaf. So you can buy it online at too, or just look at my ah Instagram and I just DM me and I'll send you send you the link. yeah Okay, nice. Any chance I can get a signed copy? Yeah, yeah for sure. yeah That's awesome. And do you know how the sales have gone so far? or like
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and It's kind of hard because it's like the editing company who takes care of everything, which is really, really useful because when you go through that process, you have no idea like how much time and how much people you need to actually do ah do a book. somem really happy that I was helped by that editing company. So I actually have no idea how many books were sold in bookstores, but I was able to sell some in doing, because I like to do nutrition support conference or conferences about the triathlon. So when I do those, I always bring books and I sell tons of the books. So I think it's going pretty well. So I'm really happy about that.
01:10:40
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very good. What would you say um that endurance sport has brought to your life? I think it's just about, what there was the saying is like, yeah life is a marathon, you know, but like, I feel like life is not a marathon. It's like a tri-running race. like Being able to Like there is no better like school than like sports, you know, especially like competition sport, elite sport. And that's why I feel like there was lots of, I like Olympians would then go to, go into academia or go start their own business or like really also so successful in other part of their life. Because like sport teaches you to be consistent, to show up every day, even though you don't feel good, like,
01:11:30
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if you If I ah were only training the days, I feel super good. you won't be able to achieve a good level of competition. So showing up, being consistent and also perseverance is like the best thing you can learn from doing sports for a long time. And I feel like that has helped me a lot in like my PhD studies, because my PhD, I feel like is the hardest thing I've been doing all my life. And without competing in track on ultra running races,
01:12:04
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I'm pretty pretty sure I would have dropped out of of it in my PhD because it's too too much. But I feel like yeah it has helped me being more better at going through hard stuff. So whether it's like a hard thing in life, in your your job or in your relationship, just doing sports just makes you stronger person, I feel like, and it helps you being more balanced in your life too. Like sometimes it feels like you don't have a really balanced life because you're wi waking up super early, you're training a lot, but you actually have lots of stuff in your life and you're able to find balance. And that's one of the things I've learned with sports, which I feel like is going to help me with ah either my other projects or my jobs or anything else. yeah
01:12:58
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And when times get really tough in those moments, are there any like things that you say to yourself or mantras? Is there like something you write down or some kind of process you do to break through that? ah Yeah, it's actually funny. like yeah once I don't see it anymore. but like Once in a while, when I was going super hard in the Iron Man Racist, I was just rep repeating myself Guggins, you know David Guggins, because I've read that book and he's such a hard are guy who just pushes through everything else. is like I remember once in Iron Man Racist, ad like everything was oating, blisters, and I was like, why am I complaining?
01:13:43
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i'm like Complaining about the blister. I don't think Goggins would complain about the blisters. So I just repeat myself think Yeah, again i we what would Goggins do and like also I repeat myself that is all a roller coaster, especially in ultra running races like There's so many races or in Ironman like so many races I felt super bad on the bike, but then I feel good and run so I I repeat myself that the everything is going to pass. ah So just being being in the moment and just focus on what you need to do. And there is something I talk also about in the book. I repeat myself, it's TPN. So there's three things you need to actually control. And it's technique, spacing, and nutrition. So when you stop thinking about how many kilometers it's telling you to do, or what are your temperature
01:14:40
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competitors, where are they? You just need to think about those two things. How's your technique? Can I improve my technique? On the bike, can I be lower, more aero? Pacing, can I be faster? Or should I slow down a little bit? And nutrition, like should I be eating a little bit more? ah Should I drink more? So those are three things that you can ah always think about at any moment of your race. And that helps you to to stay in the moment, stay in the now. So that's the most important thing because when you're like in a super long races and you still have like 50k running to do, if you think about that, it's going to be too hard mentally. But if you think about right now,
01:15:25
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what I can do right now to go to the next eight station or go to the next kilometers. That's the the best thing you can do. That's great advice. And I think everyone can definitely use that. Where can people find out more about you Antoine?
01:15:40
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Yeah, they can follow me on social media on Facebook and Instagram at AntoineJDTry. I also have my coaching on Instagram. It's JD Performance Coaching. ah So yeah, that's pretty much it. And the book is definitely triathlete. So it's available pretty much ah everywhere. yeah So cool. Well, thanks so much. I appreciate you coming on and and us getting to reconnect here. You're always a great conversation and and you know so much about this board and I love your your point of view. So thanks so much for sharing. Yeah, it was really cool to chat with you. Take care Antoine. Take care of ya. Thanks for tuning in to the Just In Stride podcast. I truly appreciate you taking the time to listen and I hope you enjoyed that conversation as much as I did.
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