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Delving into THE MANDALORIAN Chapters 5 and 6 | 013
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Join Branwen and Seah as they deep dive into all things Star Wars. Follow along as we fly off exploring all the wonders and geekery of a Galaxy Far, Far Away, chatting nostalgia, worlds, lore, sound, music, story, behind the scenes, and much more with each other and some very special guests.
It's Season 2! This season, we're on a rewatch of The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett in the run-up to the release of The "Mandalorian and Grogu" in cinemas in May.
In our thirteenth episode we're jumping into Chapters 5 "The Gunslinger" and Chapter 6 "The Prisoner" from Season 1 of "The Mandalorian". We talk about themes, performances, story details, the incredible Peli Motto, glitchy Mandovision(TM), devaronians, how awesome Ming-Na Wen and Natalie Tena are, and much more. Watch out for our brand new segment "West End Geek Girls", which may now have a short them tune!
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Favorite Lines and Quotes from The Mandalorian
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place here Hi Hi! What's your favourite line from The Mandalorian Season 1 Episode 5 or 6? I wasn't a stormtrooper, wiseass! Ha ha ha ha ha!
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Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! I wrote that line down to you. I did like that one. That did make me laugh. Hello, Bramwen.
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Hello. What's your favourite line from The Mandalorian Season 1, Episode 5 and or 6? Crazy tweak. Which is also a Mayfeld line. Which is also Mayfeld. Ah, very good. And we're going to come back to that line because I love it yeah for a particular reason. Okay.
Introduction to Sisters of the Force Podcast
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But yeah, you are listening to Sisters of the Force. Hello. I'm Franwyn.
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And I'm Sia. And this week we're going to delve into The Mandalorian Season 1, Episode 5, The Gunslinger, and Episode 6, The Prisoner. Excellent. belting couple of episodes, if ever, I saw Yeah.
00:01:14
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It's good. Both of them are just so good. They are good. They are definitely good. We are sans guests this week. It's just, just the two of us. Just the two of us. Oh no. don't stop. No. But yeah, we've got lot to talk about. That is true. you're on your sort of rewatch now, you? I'm on a rewatch, yeah. I got really sick and I binge watched the entire first season. I love that for you. That is so good. Yeah.
00:01:42
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ah And so now I'm rewatching. So I did my rewatch this morning. I kind of remember because it's like, it's quite a recent rewatch. It's only been like two weeks, I think. So that's very recent so it's it's all quite fresh. It's all quite recent, which is really nice because none of my other rewatches have been that fresh. Some of them have been like 12 years, not fresh. So but but I noticed that listening to the Last Jedi episode today, that it's been some time since you watched it. Just some time. Yeah, this is this is quite a recent rewatch for me as well, because we did start a rewatch not long ago. and we did similar to you. We did season one. and Okay.
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I think at that point, I realized we were going to be doing it in the podcast. so Yeah. So we sort of halted. Held And now I'm doing a rewatch of that and then we can carry on with season two along with this the podcast, which makes a bit more sense. Yeah, yeah. Otherwise, it's quite a lot to just be like going back. yeah And I think that the other thing I found is that I'm slightly confused because it's been so recently
Episodic vs. Serialized Storytelling in The Mandalorian
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that I've watched it that I'm still not like the story didn't is a bit jumbled. Yeah, yeah. Like the order of things. The order of things. That's what I mean. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I get it. but it's cool
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good i love this little dynamic that we've got going on uh of you doing like a very recent rewatch yeah yeah i think i'm really it's really interesting it's going to be interesting how we do season two now i'm going to be like oh when do i be you been share do i binge How have you enjoyed Mando season one? like and and like oh you know Have you got any things that you particularly love about it? Oh my gosh. Yeah, I've been really loving it. I am obsessed with Grogu, although he's not Grogu yet.
00:03:29
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We keep saying this, but... Yeah, the child. The child. I'm completely obsessed. And... I'm really enjoying like the little small stories, so it being like quite compacted. like Especially these two episodes, there's no like they're very separate things. And it's like we have that kind of one and done adventure. Yeah, yeah.
00:03:49
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That's really cool. i I think that's kind of why I was asking that, because I felt the same about these two episodes. I mean, there are other episodes that are one-offs, but these two feel particularly... yeah like that. um They're quite different in in feel. They've got different directors and different writers and everything. But they have got quite unique characters. A bit like Episode 4 did last week, the Sanctuary one, which again, completely different feel. Different vibe to the other one. And i think that that kind of honours George's original Star Wars thing. He likes that serial, you know, the the old Flash Gordon TV series from, you know, last century. Yeah, of course.
00:04:29
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It definitely, it picks up on that light adventure of the week, yeah monster of the week sort thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it. It's interesting to binge watch it. It would be completely different experience if I was doing like one episode a week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But i don't, in all honesty, I do not remember a time when I did things one episode a week. Yeah, yeah.
00:04:48
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Because for the last however many years of my life, it's always been, no I'm going to sit here from start to finish. Wow. You're a binger. I'm a binger. I am a binger. but I think I'm like in a fairly unique breed in that I'm not a great binger. Interesting. I remember the first time I got the DVDs of The Mighty Boosh, which is a bit of a specific callback for anybody listening. If you're in the UK, you might know what we're talking about. If not, sorry. Sorry. And I got them for Christmas, like all three seasons, I think, and we pretty much plowed through them you love it in in two days or something, which that's that's probably the closest I've got to binging, other than like watching all six Star Wars films in a day. A Lord of the Rings marathon or whatever, which I've been known to do. Yeah, I think we've, like, I didn't have a TV growing up for most of my growing up years. Growing up years, what does what does that even mean? ah So we didn't, we very rarely had TV.
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And when we did have a TV, it was like with a DVD player, it wasn't, yeah we never had like live TV. live tv yeah So if we had live TV, it was because we were somewhere else. Or if we had access to a TV, it was because we were in someone's house.
00:06:03
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And that's when you binge it because you're only house-sitting for four days or whatever. I totally get that. And it's the same like my mum comes to visit me now and she just goes, right, what series is good? What can I do in a night? And she'll stay up all night in my living room and just watch whatever it is That's wild. yeah Yeah, she will. I don't think that she's alone. you know i think lots of people do that. like Fewer and fewer people, I think, probably have TVs nowadays yeah and just consume on devices and you know yeah as we can now. don't have to like be on the TV at 7.30 on Saturday night or whatever. No, that's When I was a kid. yeah I did used to walk down to Gwen Ann's house to watch Doctor Who on a whatever day that was when I was a kid.
00:06:48
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And we live like a 15 minute walk apart. So it's like my weekly waltz down the hill. to watch doctor There was something about that routine. i mean, you know, i was there 3000 years ago and like you would assemble on the sofa weekly yeah and you couldn't miss it kind of thing.
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I mean, I was there pre-video even. So you you literally, if you didn't catch it. To catch it, that was it. Yeah. It was gone. Anyway. Anyway, yeah.
00:07:22
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of a That was a fun tangent. I just thought it was interesting to to go down there a little bit because of this nature. Like, guess it's going to be interesting to see what happens in season two and three because as they go on, it becomes more of an arc, like an ongoing arc. Yeah, got you. And some people have stated a preference for this earlier style of like these kind of modular episodes. Yeah.
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And obviously some people love the the deeper like ongoing storyline stuff as well. like both. I think they a good job of balancing them. Even in season three, I feel like there's a good ah good balance. so It's going to be interesting see what you make of it all. Well, there's some really interesting through lines through it all, isn't there? Most of my notes for especially the Gunslinger episode was there's lots of, ooh, little seed of mystery. Carry on. That's going to be revealed later on down the line somewhere. Sure. It surely is. There's a whole load of that in episode five. Yeah.
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So yeah, let's get into um The Gunslinger. Let's do it. Dave Filoni directing. Yeah. Which is cool. I'd forgotten that he directed episode one as well. Oh, yeah. ah He's quite prolific in his directing because these are his like debut live action directing. Okay, cool. like He did loads of directing in Clone Wars and Rebels. yeah like He's very much from an animation background. yeah That's his history.
00:08:38
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And so this is the first time he's like gone into live action directing direct play to it Obviously having Jon Favreau as like your mentor to do that.
Dave Filoni's Transition to Live Action
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Yeah, yeah. Can't really go wrong. You're going to be fine. He's done some pretty serious movies We've got a really, really strong opening.
00:08:57
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Yeah. Mid-air fight straight away. Super fast. I love how like old school it feels like the dog fights from A New Hope. It's like lots quick camera movements and whooshes past and all of that stuff. It felt very real. Yeah.
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The sound design, straight away, sound design of the um the Bounty N2 chasing him yeah in his cockpit. Yeah, excellent. The engine noise is like... it's wild what is this it's such a cool sound what does that sound like it gave me like real arcade vibes like arcade game like space at all type games and then we've instantly got the that's my line blowing up exactly yeah which was a close second to my favorite line actually me it made me was like i can't pick that because she is definitely gonna pick that
00:09:46
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It's pretty disturbing when he's left in space and like the whole ship is dead. And it's silent. Yeah. And it's so rare that we're on a ship and we get actual silence. Yeah, there's never silence.
00:09:59
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And he's sort of flicking the buttons and like trying to get the ship back to life. And um so we get yet another damaged ship making a crash landing on Tatooine. Yeah. Just in case. It's a bit of a theme going on here. It is, My next note was women in STEM.
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Yes. I mean, I could talk for an hour and a half about Peli Motto. She's so... don't know about it, it's Amy Sedaris, who is just an icon of American comedy and like character acting. She's so great. She's so versatile and...
00:10:33
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She, not to give too many spoilers away, but she's one of my favourite things about the episode of Book of Boba Fett. The one that I keep going on and on about. Okay, so we get more Peli action. We get lots more. I think she's going to become more and more of a regular character because fans seem to love her. like I mean, why wouldn't you? She is great. She's just so good like She's got that like extreme character thing going on, which is partly in the writing. yeah Apparently,
00:11:01
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The vision for her character was Danny DeVito in Taxi, which was... Okay. Have you seen Taxi? I don't remember watching it. It's like a kind of American sitcom. Yeah, yeah. I've seen bits of it. I think.
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and Yeah. And DeVito plays like the dispatch guy who's answering the phones. And he's like up in this caged kind of office. Yeah. Like away from everybody, nodding over everyone. And I think like her little office with the glass where she pretends not to be asleep later on. Yeah. but But like her comedy, but she's so warm and like she just does all the things like she gives us all those lovely lines. Like you got a lot of carbon scoring building up on top. You know, it's just like, oh, that's feeding the Star Wars in me. It's feeding, as you say, the women in STEM thing.
00:11:49
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Love that. um Do people in the US know what STEM is? Is it is your universal term? I don't know. Good question. Let me Google it. Science, technology. Science, technology, engineering.
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Magic. I know.
00:12:04
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Do I know what STEM means? I know what it is, but I've never actually thought about what it stands for. I'm guessing it probably is the same in the US. ah that She's got the pit droids, which is an extension of her character. i love the pit droids. She's got a whole droid thing going on. like I love how she brings back that thing about Mando not liking droids. She doesn't shouldn't bring it back, but but her kind of workforce yeah forces us to revisit that yeah little characteristic of her. And that leaves her working on the ship alone because yeah all of her crew are droids. Yeah, so she's just there doing the job with her. like I love the machines that she's got and she's like hitting them and it's all just really classic vintage Star Wars. yeah It's amazing how like that retro Star Wars thing. I've been trying to work out...
00:12:55
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Like, obviously, A New Hope set the tone for technology. know, we've got like the displays in Luke's X-Wing and the tracking things and all that kind of stuff. And all of the control panels on all of the ships and in the Death Star and everything. And it's of that era.
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To me, it looks like repurposed arcade machines, yeah which I'm pretty sure is probably what it was. Yeah. Would make sense. And that's that's obviously continued. like Filmmakers today are paying homage to that all the time and it's like it's part of Star Wars. you know We can't really change that without it and not being Star Wars anymore. yeah But I don't know back then if it had a vintage feel or if it was... I don't think it did.
00:13:39
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There's a bit of tech in the next episode that I was like, what is going on here? That's quite... really? Yeah, yeah. We'll talk about that in a minute. But... cool We're coming back.
Return to Mos Eisley Cantina and Easter Eggs
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so um So he sets off into Mos Eisley. Yes. Is this the same cantina as in A New Hope? Yeah. Yay! The very one. And the name of it is Slipping My Mind. That's not like The confusing thing is it's not... I know. the original barkeep, whose name is also Slipping My Mind, Woolruth, Woolruth, something like that. Nice. um It's not his name.
00:14:19
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I always thought that he was the owner, but I don't think it is. Don't think he Okay. Before we get there, though, yeah I just want to talk about the music. Oh, yes. A music note. The music...
00:14:31
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As he's walking through Mos Eisley, we get this kind of synth thing again, which is becoming more and more part of the the score. Like we kind of have moved a little bit away from like the first couple of episodes when it was all about the the big tenor recorder. yeah, yeah. You know, the do-do-do-do-do thing. And we're getting more into that sort texture. We still get those recorder yeah things happening, but we are getting a lot of this sort of synth texture, particularly in this episode. Yeah.
00:14:56
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And there's um a particular sound that I've dragged onto the soundboard. Have you? Go on. Not from the episode, but from a 1991 rave track. Oh. Which, obviously, early rave and Acid House, that whole era of the late 80s and early ninety s yeah dance music, was partly about samplers yeah and drum loops and little vocals and all that kind of thing. But it was also a lot about synthesizers, analog synthesizers. And there was a track by Beltram, that came out in 91 called Mentasm or something Mentasm.
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And the sound that it starts with is this weird synth sound, which I can't remember what synth it is that does it, but it became like a meme of its own. Okay. And it became known as the Mentasm sound. Excellent. And so I've got a bit of the Jerry Beltram track.
00:15:41
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Yeah.
00:15:45
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Yeah. So back in 91, raving hard. Nice. Because that sound, it feels like there's a lot of that in what Ludwig is doing. yeah Like it's not quite the mentasm, but it's that really buzzy, yeah, kind of sawtooth, sawtooth wave. Yeah. It's the kind of music that hits my brain in a really nice way. yeah Yeah. It's got like, it hits all the right frequencies that just makes me do things.
00:16:14
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Yeah. It's good. It's a good sound. It's a good sound. But I've definitely noticed it. I haven't really put it with mentasm until this episode and just something about that bit is as he's walking through the town, he sees the stormtroopers helmets on the spikes, yeah um which is a dark. It is dark. It's a dark image. Visually dark. Yeah. I mean, spoiler alert, is how Clone Wars finishes, like after all the seasons of Clone Wars. The very end of it is a similar thing. Similar tabloid. quite the same, but a similar thing. Right. And as we'll see eventually. But yeah, so look out for mentasm. Okay. I bet Ludwig, knowing Ludwig's like history and is what he loves in music and everything, he knows what mentasm is. He knows know about it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. So, yeah, sorry, we get into the cantina. Into the cantina.
00:17:07
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Yeah, um which is now now being by droids. by droids. And not any old droid, but Eve 99 from Jabba's Palace. ah excellent which is the best full circle from a from a canteen that wouldn't allow droids in yeah we've now got jabber's queen like droid overlord running the bar excellent we see a few little easter eggy glimpses of people as he's kind of wandering around yeah i did notice that yeah including Frog Lady, who we're going to meet next season. Oh, okay. Well, it's probably not the Frog Lady. It's of her species, which I don't know if we know the species name yet. She's called Frog Lady and everywhere I've ever seen. ok It could be a baby Yoda thing where we were. Yeah, yeah, that we don't know. there's an insect. Did you know just the insect character guy? Yes, I saw him. He's got a name because we meet him later as well. He's called Dr. Mandible.
00:18:04
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Nice. And r five four that you might have recognised from... Yeah. you hope he's the the one that had the bad motivator yeah when ah Lars buys him and then it goes wrong and he has to buy Arto instead.
00:18:18
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And it's confirmed that is our five people. Wow. Yeah, he's made his way to there. We see him again as well. So three of those characters come back. come back Impressive. Well, I know about Fog Lady, but the other the other two definitely do. My next note in this was we meet the gunslinger.
00:18:36
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and Yeah. I just find him so annoying. Yep. You and 99.9%. don't like him. I'll tell you who doesn't. Okay. It's the other host, one of the hosts of Children of the Watch. Okay. Alex. He... Doesn't find him annoying.
00:18:52
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Well, he's got a bit. You know, he's gone on and on and on and on. And he did admit in a recent episode that it was a bit. He's annoying. But he does... but I think that the the consensus among us progressive Star Wars lovers is that he is intentionally... and He's written like that. Yeah, he's written to be annoying, but he's annoying. Yeah. He is annoying. He is annoying.
00:19:14
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ah like I don't have too much of an adverse reaction to him. i mean i i do. It's fine. I can see like he's clearly come from a bit of a privileged background. He's yeah not a real bounty hunter. No. he's He's trying to buy his way in. He's a terrible bounty hunter. He doesn't know what he's doing. He has no idea.
00:19:31
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His brand new macro binoculars that we see later, it's like, yeah. He doesn't care about the money. He's not doing this for the right reasons. Daddy bought me the binoculars. Yeah. Maybe that's what it is. I've met too many of these people in my life and I'm just like, no other direction. Stop pretending. Yeah. I think he triggers people a lot like that. I would absolutely get that.
00:19:51
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But I like how he immediately, well, very quickly, he's like, okay. I need your help. I'm not who I'm pretending to be. yeah Toro Calacan. I can't say his name without thinking of Alex from Children of the Watch. Alex, if you're listening, you've scarred me for lying.
00:20:09
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excellent I was a bit curious because i can't remember who it was. One of them says that there's no guild on Tatooine. Yeah, it's the droid. The droid, yeah. yeah I'm like, but that sort of confuses me a bit, yeah. Yeah, yeah. mean, maybe because I always get, I think I sort of, in my brain, i kind of confuse bounty hunting and the crime underworld. Crime syndicates, and yeah. They're not the same thing. Bounty hunters are a separate thing and they can be like totally outside of the crime world. yeah There's obviously a lot of crossover. Yeah, that would make sense.
00:20:41
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Boba Fett was working for Jabba and a lot of bounty hunters worked for crime lords. But yeah, so I guess it's not too unbelievable that there'd be no bounty hunter guild on
Introduction to Fennec Shand
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Tatooine. Maybe Tatooine because it's such a wretched hive of scum and villily, especially Mos Eisley. Maybe even the bounty hunter guild won't touch it because it's so dodge.
00:21:02
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It's incredibly dodgy. We're not doing But we're introduced via but a puck to Fennec Shand, who is possibly in my top five of Star Wars characters of all time. Interesting. I was going to say I have questions. Okay. Have you got particular questions? Particular questions, just intrigue.
00:21:21
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My note was intrigue. Who is this woman? But also in general, have we met her before and I've not because I've not done other things? Or what what the what's the crack? Right, chronologically, yeah think this was our first meeting with her. Okay. I'm probably going to get loads of, like, DMs from people now telling me I'm wrong.
00:21:43
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um But I'm pretty sure she is now in several different things Okay. Like we've also now seen her in Animated as well. Right. She pops up in The Bad Batch. The Bad Batch is like 20 years before this or something. Okay. In between Clone Wars and and A New Hope. In between times.
00:22:01
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I feel like it was just because she was mentioned with such like, you should know who this person is. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, I don't know whether it's a, you should know who this person is because you've met her or I don't think we had at this point. Okay. think she was a new character. And I think that was just a writing technique to make us feel like, ooh. Ooh.
00:22:18
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Ooh. She's kind scary, yeah. I mean, apart from the fact it's Ming Nguyen, who is such an incredible woman, actress, everything. She's like in her late 50s, I think, and is in Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. as one of the main characters, and is physically just incredible. like She does loads of her own fight sequences and stuff. I wouldn't mind betting she does the fight sequence with Tori Calaghan that we see later on. she is...
00:22:46
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A badass, for want of better phrase. Excellent. I've got so much. And when I saw her in it, I was like, oh my like I cried fangirl tears. She Because there is a little bit of a, she's been shot and left, but not really...
00:23:02
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Yeah. No one ever really does. No one ever really does. If you don't actually see them burn a body. Yeah. I mean, I'm really glad that they actually addressed that and gave us that epilogue. The last bit, yeah. Rather than just like, she pops up again later on. Like, I'm glad that we saw on the same day that she died, we assume, yeah mysterious boots walk up. We'll talk about that when we get to it. The speculation. The mysterious boots.
00:23:30
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at the time was pretty ripe and accurate as it turned out. Oh, okay. Spoilers! Fans guessing we all were guessing like, man, there is some pretty solid evidence as to who it is. Right. And it was that person. It is that person, okay. Yeah.
00:23:46
Speaker
If I guessed now, would it be really... No, no, well oh I'll be impressed, as impressed as I would if anybody guessed at the time. Let me think about it. I think I had an idea because of what was being rumoured around at the time. yeah There is an audio clue which I didn't notice at the time. I heard it when I watched it the other day. Okay. It's very subtle audio clue. Anyway, but we'll talk about that when get there. We'll talk that when get there. Jumping ahead. We're jumping the gun.
00:24:14
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Speeder bikes. So, yes. Yes. Sorry. ah Leaping onto our bikes. Welcome my brain. I'm just checking. There was nothing wanted to say about her. Sorry. About the fact that it's just Fennec. I could just talk about Fennec for an hour. We're coming back to her. So we're. Yeah, yeah we are true. That's very true. um I did want to say that I thought the guy who played Toro Calican is awesome.
00:24:37
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Like, yeah nails the part so well. Yeah, that's true. I'll give him that. I'm still annoyed. Yeah. He does manage to source some pretty good speedy bikes, though. Yeah, that's true. As you know, they're pretty rusty looking. them i They look so familiar, though. Like the handles look really familiar. It's all like, it's quite nostalgic-y speeder bikes. I like it. If you've been listening to the last couple of episodes, you know there's ah a new segment that we're doing called West End Geek Girls, which I almost did. Oh, I'm so excited. You almost did it. okay again Because um there was a lot of talk in the role blend game about swoops, which are very like speeder bikes. Yeah.
00:25:19
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I think we talked about them in the solo episode that we did few weeks think we did. Yeah, because I love swoop gangs. I was reading about them today in my old source book. Excellent. I think one of them is more of a swoop. I think it's the one Mando's got. it's a bit lower slung and it's got like Harley Davidson style. Yeah, yeah,
00:25:36
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Like touring bike handles. Handles. You can tell how into biking I am. Yeah. I love that they're very different, the two bikes. They're like secondhand, whatever he could pick up. Just rackety. He's a resourceful guy He's a resourceful guy. He's this is all right. He's doing a thing. But that whole like that whole sequence of them on the speeder bikes,
00:26:02
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The music is amazing. Yeah, that would probably Western again. Cinematography is amazing. just, it's like, this is visually and sonically a treat. It is. We have the Spanish guitars. Yeah. Like, it's spaghetti Western again. Yeah. Which totally suits, you know, the gunslinger. I mean, that's title of the episode. Although, who is the gunslinger? Is it Mando? I always assumed it was, what's his name? Is Toro Caligón? Yeah, the annoying one. Yeah. He does do a bit of a quick draw at the end, doesn't he? kind of thought he was like, he's the gunslinger, but he fancies himself as a gunslinger. He's not actually one. I think he is. Mando is the true gunslinger.
00:26:39
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Yeah. And yeah, they kind of race across the dudes and we get that lush scene with the Tuscans. Yes. A little bit of Tuscan lore. Yeah. little bit of intro, Tuscan lore, setting us up for the future. Yeah. And that gag of like, why don't you tell them yourself? And then there's two Tuscans and we get the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bit of Tuscan music. So good. But seeing Mando, yeah, using sign language with them and having a conversation with them and not having any of Toro's like xenophobic. No, Mando's just on it. Or like even xenophobic. Yeah, he's really, yeah, talking to them, which really love. And he's super chill about them as well. He's just like, well, yeah. Yeah, and they seem to respect him. He negotiates their way across the thing, which is a totally non-critical part of the story. They didn't need to put that scene in. It tells us a lot more about Mando and introduces us to a bit of Tuscan lore, which I don't know how far ahead they'd written, but I think they had written season two at this point. Because not giving anything away, there might be more Tuscan stuff going on. And I've already hinted that there might be with Tuscan.
00:27:46
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in the book Boba Fett. Like, it's it's just really interesting storytelling subverting what we all thought about them, which is a really good kind of allegory for privilege and,
00:27:58
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yeah i mean That whole line of they think we're the outsiders. Who has the right to be there. Yeah, yeah exactly. Yeah. Which is really, really cool. I'm loving that for this series. Yeah.
00:28:09
Speaker
Okay. So we get the place where Fennec is hiding out. Yes. And we get to see her, I looked this up, 785 Firepuncher X sniper rifle. Of course did. With custom thermal scope. Yeah.
00:28:27
Speaker
but I mean, Mando did say is' an MK firefighter. He did say something. I didn't take that in, but yeah. Or an MK sniper rifle, but I had to look up the entire name because i wanted I kind of wanted to know because he did say it was modified. Yeah. And wanted know how it was modified. was Scope. And I think it's the thermal scope, yeah, which is a big plot point because obviously they use that against her. Yeah.
00:28:51
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With their flares. I said, my note about her was that she seems cool, but she's a bit slimy. She's very sneaky. In fact, when we get to that bit, there's a very specific reference I want to talk about musically, which is very tenuous, but it does feed into that. I've got to call out.
00:29:08
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ah Amanda's got a couple of lines that are clearly just like the most glaring Easter eggs ever. He says, she's got the high ground. Yeah, I did notice that. Yeah. I may have slightly rolled my eyes, but because Pedro delivers it so well, it's like, no, it's fine. It's all good. we'll we'll let that We'll let it slide. liked Toro like playing with Mando when he thinks he's sleeping and we all know that Mando's awake. Mando's just watching him. You're dumb. It's so funny.
00:29:41
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But yeah, they embark on that reckless charge once it falls. Just like, yeah, let's just go. let's just go Fast, straight towards ah trust in these flares. Yeah. We have all that synths again and strings. Synths and strings, which is definitely part of the Mando-like sound world. Sequence synths, like arpeggiators or like... Yeah, yeah,
00:30:03
Speaker
Or gated something. That kind of thing. Yeah, with strings as well. Loving it. So good. There's an amazing, my favourite bit of cinematography, I think so far in the whole The Mandalorian, is when Toro kind of reaches her and he swerves around to the right or something, one way or the other anyway, just like a hard kind of, almost like a skid stop, which they're on repulsive lift, so don't how that works. I don't know how that works, yeah. But he rolls around to one side and a flare goes off at the same time and he's illuminated in full white
00:30:37
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flare light temporarily as he turns but the rest of the cinematography is still night time and it's just like this kind of weird it looks so real it looks so real whether they built a a like speeder bike on a crane or something so they could actually have him on it and actually light it in the volume yeah yeah i don't know don't how they did it No, wow but it's a beautiful shot. It looks, it's so realistic. You don't even notice until you've watched it six times or whatever. And it's like, that shot.
Confrontation Analysis: Mando, Toro, and Fennec
00:31:10
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Wait a second.
00:31:11
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Her hand-to-hand fight with him. Like I said, I think Ming Noh Nguyen, she's so, just going to keep saying how amazing she is. She's great. They just have that awesome like fight with, again, great synths. Yeah, my note there was good music, kid still annoying. But you know he's like he's already, now we're kind of like counting down yeah for the demise of Toro.
00:31:35
Speaker
I noticed that Mando, when he's like watching, we see from his POV, you know, through his... Vision in his mask and it's all glitchy. Yeah, yeah. Why is it glitchy? I mean, I know like holograms are always glitchy in Star Wars. I often wondered this, like even the Jedi Council at the height of it. Glitchy. They still have glitchy holograms. Sort out your holograms, people. What's going on? Has nobody written a bit of like AI script or something just smooth out any lack of connection problems? The Binox were okay. Why is his mask not? Yeah, brand new Binox, crystal clear. Fine. But Mando's like brand new, like Beskar helmet. What? I don't know, is his helmet new? I know most of his arm is new. know if she forged helmet. His helmet is new as well. Is it? Well, it looks shinier after he's been to see it. He's been buffing it anyway. But clearly not worried about the electronics. No, not at Because it was very... And then we get our second Mando callback quote, she's no good to us dead. Yeah. Which is Boba's line from Empire Strikes Back.
00:32:45
Speaker
Yeah. Nice. He's no good to me dead. Yeah. um and mando what are you doing going off just being like is he trusting he he's so annoyed he's annoyed with him he's can't deal with him anymore it's just like he just can't be bothered anymore but like he needs the money does need the money from the bounty so i don't know my thought was that oh i can't be asked to argue with this kid and it's just gonna waste my time so i'm just gonna go and do it i think That was the vibe I got. That's how I was feeling about him as well. Absolutely.
00:33:19
Speaker
Yeah. to Cut to a gorgeous sunrise shot of Toro reclining on the bike. Yeah. And she's sitting in the right-hand side of the frame. Yeah. Beautiful. And this is when she starts, like you mentioned earlier, and she's a bit slimy, yeah. And immediately there's a bit of music which I kind of went back and watched it on YouTube. I was trying to find the clip, okay but couldn't quite find it. So maybe it was slightly in my head, but it reminded me when she starts talking to him of in the original animated Jungle Book, the snake sings the hypnotized song to Mowgli. Trust me.
00:33:53
Speaker
Yes. And it felt like, I think that's a sort of pseudo rag melody in the old Disney film, you know, when they would like appropriate another country's musical style. It's got that kind of semitone vibes, like yeah harmonic, minory, I'm not sure what it is. yeah And the music...
00:34:14
Speaker
around this part of the episode is similar harmonically to that. I'm sure that's not a reference, fine but Jon Favreau did direct the live action Jungle Book. Oh, there we go. we'll have watched the original Jungle Book loads and loads while developing that. Interesting. And I mean, it's a trope, like the kind of hypnotizing- Cool if true. Yeah.
00:34:37
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it's It's just like eerie hypnotizing music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it feels like she's trying to hypnotize him. Yeah. she's just She's just trying to get her way. She's a smooth talker.
00:34:47
Speaker
She is a smooth talker. And he's just too heavy-handed. She could smooth talk me anytime.
00:34:56
Speaker
Sorry, this is a family podcast. Keeping that. Yeah.
00:35:01
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I'm having that soundbite. He is, yeah. he he's I mean, to be fair, he doesn't quite fall for it. He pretends to fall for it. And then he double-clotches it, really. Point-blank range. Yeah, but again, heavy-handed. like he could have There was other ways of doing that.
00:35:15
Speaker
He could have got the best of all the worlds. And that's kind of even what... like When Mando comes back and realises what's happened, he's just kind of he just kind of sighs. Yeah, like, oh boy. Oh, here we go. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, the kid could have potentially taken Fennec back with him. Yeah.
00:35:32
Speaker
And got the money and got Grogu, because he knows where Grogu is. Yeah, he knows where Grogu is, yeah. He could have had everything. Yeah. Apart from Mando himself. But if you've got Grogu and Finchand, that's plenty of... Yeah. But anyway, he doesn't... As you say, very heavy-handed.
00:35:52
Speaker
It's a very shocking moment, though. yeah There's like this weird bit of... I don't know if I would call it music or sound design straight after. like The Blasterbolt happens and it's a regular Blasterbolt sound. But there's this is kind of weird almost echo. It's a really deep...
00:36:08
Speaker
like Heavy fear feeling. Heavy feeling. assume that was because they were in a canyon. but of so it might be like actual echo. Yeah, yeah. That's that's that's what where my head went when I heard Yeah. I mean, I feel like, I think that was probably my initial thought. But then when I was looking back at it today, I was thinking, wait, is this a score? yeah, yeah, of course.
00:36:30
Speaker
They're kind of on a dune, like in canyon-ish. I don't know. But it's very dark anyway, and it made me feel like I'd been shot in stomach, which I guess was the intention. Oh, it's the intent, yeah. yeah But it puts you back on her side then, I guess. Yeah.
00:36:45
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I guess there's, I think there is a bit of like, wait, that was a bit unsportsmanlike. That was unnecessary. Yeah. Yeah. And like her reaction is almost like less about her injury and more about the fact of like, what? Yeah. What are you doing? Like her surprise is like really apparent. Yeah. Interesting.
00:37:06
Speaker
Controversial. Amazing, amazing shot, to which I screamed at and then had to go and get a book to show my mum and dad. Yeah. The first time we watched this, Mando on the back of a juback. And there's like a low angle shot, which I'm going to post on our Instas. Yeah. for you to go and check out if you're listening um because in the original novel the original novelization of Star Wars yeah there were like color photographs at a couple of points in the book I think you know like i don't know if you would have been in your lifespan but like you know paperbacks is it in your lifespan especially film like novelizations they would have some it's just like a regular paperback but like about every so often they'd have ah yeah there'd some color glossy yeah yeah yeah pages i know what you're on about i've been around on for a while
00:37:52
Speaker
I mean, sure there's plenty of paperbacks still don't have that. And if not, some vintage ones floating around. But yeah, there's a photo of a stormtrooper on a dewback in Tatooine. Oh. That's exactly the same angle.
00:38:05
Speaker
Right. 100%. That I don't think is a shot in the film. It was like a publicity shot or a deleted scene or something. Yeah. Wow. um And they've intentionally filmed.
00:38:16
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It's exactly the same. Project there. Wow. It could not be any more similar. So I'll post it side by side yeah on our Insta so that you can check it out. So I suppose, meanwhile, Grogu has been with Peli this entire time. Yeah.
00:38:31
Speaker
I wonder what they got up She's been babysitting. She's been babysitting Grogu. she's not playing sabacc with the pit droids. I think that's what she was playing. She's playing some kind of card game. She quite maternal towards him though, which is quite nice. She loves little Grogu. She is basically.
00:38:50
Speaker
As an audience, we just want to we just want to look after him. Get him some bone broth. Get something with bones in. Get something with bones in, yeah. Which is what he needs. He's he's an apex predator.
00:39:04
Speaker
We're beginning to find that out, yeah yeah. So she's been looking after him, but she does fall victim him to Taro's schemes. yeah Yeah, so Mando appears back and they're being held at gunpoint and she's a bit like, I don't know what to do now.
00:39:19
Speaker
yeah I'm a bit lost. It is a bit of a stalemate, but yeah you can never underestimate Mando. No, I like her line about you're cleverer than you look. did she say She takes off an absolutely no sh** from Mando whatsoever.
00:39:37
Speaker
But also, my other note about this was, so Mando goes to get cuffed, he uses the flare again. flare thing, yeah. The flare thing again. And then he shoots um Toro. but Yeah, yeah.
00:39:50
Speaker
He's holding Grogu. I said, that's so irresponsible parenting of you. What are you doing? It is. but I mean, he's a bounty hunter parent. So there's the added thing. And maybe he is the gunslinger after all. because Don't shoot the thing holding the child. That's...
00:40:08
Speaker
He does know that Grogu is quite capable of quite lot. Yeah, that's true. He's quite agile in him. I think he knew... Like, if it was a child that he didn't know, he might not have done that, i'd like to think. But because he knew that Grogu would leap out of Taro's falling... And he does. He runs off.
00:40:23
Speaker
Yeah. He runs off and hides. Not without giving us a little bit of a heart attack first. Yeah. Like, where is Grogu? No. My next note was just that Peli's fun and she's a much more responsible parent. She's beautiful. Yeah.
00:40:38
Speaker
When he says, will that cover me? When he gives her the money and she's like, does that terrible kind of like, yeah, no go I'll cover you. So funny.
00:40:50
Speaker
And finally, the spurs. Intrigue. The spurs. So we hear this like jingling spurs. I did hear spurs. I knew there was something going on.
00:41:00
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Okay, who wears spurs? I'm not even going to guess because we'll get too many DMs telling me I'm a wrong. Yeah.
00:41:08
Speaker
Because everybody knows except you. Everyone knows except for me. It's my podcast and I will not be told that I'm wrong. i mean, you could pretty much take a pretty uneducated guess knowing where we're going with our podcast in the coming weeks.
00:41:26
Speaker
I don't know that we knew. You didn't know at the time? No, we didn't know yet. No, okay. We were literally like... Stabbing in the dark. There were rumours about things, about films that might be being made or stories that might be being written. But we didn't know anything.
00:41:40
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For definite. Okay. All right. I'm going to leave that then. There was a lot of debate. Yeah. We will revisit it when the time is right.
00:41:52
Speaker
It's a fun episode. It is a fun episode. I enjoyed it. It's pure Western. It's pure Mando. Yeah. It's just great. Yeah. And and just but because of Pelly. I mean, Pelly, she comes back again and again. she i think you would call recurring character at this point. okay I just get absolutely freaked out about how many...
00:42:14
Speaker
different types of acting she can do. was watching The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt around the same time as this. Yeah. And it took me quite a long time to spot her in that and think, oh my gosh, that's the same. Wait. Because I'm not great at remembering actors and names and stuff. They don't store up in my brain very well. I remember faces really well, but I don't remember names at all. But she looks so utterly different. I mean, a lot of it is a wig, like a wig.
00:42:44
Speaker
She wears a different wig in each of those two shows, which is completely different wig. But Pelly, I feel, is like, don't know, in her 50s whereas the character in Kimmy Schmidt is probably in her 70s and like she's one of those actors that can can play a long way either side of her actual age yeah and just do it she's a really funny follow on Instagram as well is she as an actress yeah she posts that's a good plug she mostly just posts silly like meme videos like there's very little stuff on there that's uh but it's just a fun a fun follow love that yeah good we need more fun things so I think she for me wins character of the episode
00:43:21
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Yeah, fair. Fair enough. And that's even with Fennec Shand in it, so that says a lot because Fennec Shand is amazing well.
Heist Plot and New Characters in Episode 6
00:43:28
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favourite. Yeah, I'd have a job to choose between those two actually.
00:43:32
Speaker
That's fair. All right, then we're on to episode six. Yeah. I really enjoyed this one. I love a good heist. Yeah, it's really good. It's really tense. It's so fun.
00:43:46
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Rick Famuia, amazing director. He's gone on to direct plenty more Mando. Okay. I think he's got really, really involved, actually, I think even in writing and stuff, I see you remember in season three. He's like a big part of Mando. Yeah. And I think this episode really, like, consolidated that.
00:44:02
Speaker
Yeah. It's just so well executed. Like, the tension yeah of it all the way through, like, for all different reasons. Like, the tension of the actual heist, but the tension of the characters on the heist. It's nuts. Yeah. There's so much going on. Yeah, we learn so much about lots of different people and lots of different situations. yes And there is some ripple out after this. Okay. Just again, spoiler alert, but there is a little bit, only a little bit, but it's a good bit. Really, really good bit actually. Okay. Good to know. My first note was, ooh, mystery and intrigue.
00:44:40
Speaker
We open on mystery and intrigue. This is our catchphrase. This is going to be our catchphrase. Forever. Oh no, that's what we said we were going to do. is some We're going to make merch. Yeah, intrigue merch. I'm on it. Okay, what scenario or character or what would represent intrigue?
00:44:59
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Sorry, I've got one. I'm not going to tell you anything about though. I'm just going to show you late one night. Oh my gosh, intrigue.
00:45:08
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Meta-intrigue. I mean, i think I would, like was going to design a t-shirt, I'd probably put Sheev Palpatine pre-Scar. Yeah, sure.
00:45:20
Speaker
and Like doing the Simpsons. Doing Mr. Burns. Mr. Burns. Mr. Burns' hand thing. Yeah. Intrigue. Maybe that'll work. Intrigue.
00:45:30
Speaker
He's the grandfather of intrigue. We'll have multiple intrigue designs. I think it's worth it this point. I love this slight opening use of the volume. Because although we have mentioned the volume a bit, I think, on this show, the volume, if you didn't know, i mean...
00:45:48
Speaker
Please go and watch the gallery on Disney Plus if you don't know anything about the volume because it tells you all about it. It's like a behind the scenes of Mando season one. Yeah. And it shows you how it works. It's phenomenal. It's like horseshoe. I thought it was 360, but it's like a horseshoe. Horseshoe shape. Like bank of screens, basically, with super high definition. Yeah.
00:46:07
Speaker
resolution on them that is linked to the movement of the camera. So it uses like motion sensors and that kind of thing. So yeah yeah as the camera moves, the or as the camera parallax changes, then the footage that's being shown on these super high quality screens changes as well. And does all the lighting. And obviously, like in the last episode,
00:46:28
Speaker
is just superb because you can have like these huge Tatooine vistas without needing to near a desert. yeah The sunrise shot on Tatooine is made possible because of the volume because it just the actors' faces so beautifully and backlights and all of that stuff. clever But here we're seeing it in a completely different context to create a bridge of a of a ship, which... yeah In the old days, if you look at films like Return the Jedi, for instance, would have been a map painting, which is great and beautiful, but you could only have like two angles. Two angles, yeah. You might have map paintings. your stuff
00:47:05
Speaker
Ah, complete tangent. Forgot to mention in the last episode. oh As Din is flying into Tatooine. They use two map paintings of Tatooine, one of a canyon and one Mos Eisley in the distance. They're the actual map paintings from A New Hope. What? Oh, that's cool. They dug them out, cleaned them up, probably scanned them. Yeah, and used them. that And I hadn't noticed. i was reading The Art Mandalorian a couple of days ago yeah before watching the episodes. So then when I watched the episodes, I looked out out for and immediately I was like, why did I not see this before? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:47:42
Speaker
So cool that they're the actual same one. That is cool. So they are still using matte paintings. Yeah. But they've also got the volume. But they've now got the volume. So they could have projected the matte paintings onto the volume. Onto the volume. Yeah.
00:47:54
Speaker
But yeah, they've got the, somebody's 3D built this sort of starship hangar. Yeah. Yeah. Which is. That's cool. Yeah. I also read in the art of the Mandalorian that they worked really hard on the fact that outside the ship, you get blue light, like the shielding of the aperture for the hangar. Yeah. It's got like blue light around it, which is very pale blue, which is typically what we see in big capital ship hangars. Yeah. But inside, everything's orange. You've got, like, sparks, people working on ships, and it's all very warm orange light. And the contrast of those two just – I don't think it has any particular story relevance, but, like, visually – mean, blue and orange are opposing colours on yeah the colour wheel. yeah And cinematographers use that a lot because human skin – whatever shade of skin it is, it has that kind of brown orange, you know, like we're in the warm color palette. yeah And so they often like bleach out the background to sort of a bluey greeny color. Yeah. to To make the human people stand up. Yeah, exactly.
00:49:03
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People pop. And I feel like there's something similar going on cinematography-wise here. Okay. Just to make it feel really human or species, human people.
00:49:16
Speaker
My note for this was, this is just, it's such a shady gang. There's like... yeah They seem instant shade. I've just heard so many great characters in this episode because all of the characters are so amazing. yeah They're all shady in their own way. Yeah. Like, they've all got different edginess to them. Different things going on. They make me so nervous. I can't... Like, the whole time, particularly when they're en route Razorcrest and they're teasing Mando about his helmet, I'm just like... Oh, no. Yeah.
00:49:42
Speaker
On edge constantly. Can we talk about each of them? Because I love them more. Yes. I mean, we've got Ran, who just... just lovable, hateable. Yeah. I was not sure the entire time how I felt about him. was just like, I'm unsure of you, sir. You freak me out a little bit and I don't know why. he gives us this sense of security that he and Mando have got history. And they seem to know each other and they seem to each other. the fact that Mando has gone back to him. Yeah. yeah Makes you feel, well, if Mando thinks he's okay, then he must be okay. Maybe he's all right. But he's also really shady. not. He's horrible. Yeah. He's not a great man at the end of the day. And then just right there, kill him.
00:50:21
Speaker
No, yeah what? Yeah, absolutely. and didn't really care the rest of his crew not coming back either. No questions asked. his team that he's assembled. Terrifying. So that's him. We don't spend so much time with him, so we don't really get to know him. We're never going to this point. he's done. But we've got this amazing cast of four. Yeah.
00:50:43
Speaker
So in order of how we meet them, we meet Mayfeld first? Yeah. Yeah. So Mayfeld, I don't really know the actor, but I know he's really, really famous as a comedian. He is really famous. I don't know him either. Yeah.
00:51:00
Speaker
I think it's... I just don't follow American... I watch American comedy TV. Yeah, but not stand-up. I don't watch stand-up and stuff. No, neither do I. Because apparently... People didn't expect him to do this. Oh, interesting. Because he's so comedy and he's so known for that. yeah They didn't expect him to do it this way because he plays it so straight. He plays it really straight. He's an incredible actor. Yeah. Like it's a masterclass, his performance. And no spoilers. No spoilers. Okay. But he is really good Like I cannot Overestate how good he is Coming up as well um He's got this um He's got this kind of weird gun Thing going on What is that? The shoulder gun It's just an extra gun Appears when he's annoyed he can shoot around corners Without having to stick his head around That's pretty clever to be fair It looks very janky to me As though it's not going to really be reliable But it's fun What's it connected to? Yeah. as Inspector Gadget kind of thing. Yeah. yeah
00:52:06
Speaker
Who's next? Is it Berg next? Berg next. We meet Berg next. It's that time. West End Geek Girls time. Yay! I'm so excited.
00:52:18
Speaker
If you've not been listening to this, this is your first ah Sisters of the Force. What are you doing? Go back to the beginning. Yeah, go and start from episode one. You can start where you like. i'm I'm not bothered. Absolutely. We're very much dip in, dip out if you want. um Although we'd obviously like if you stay with us. But for the last few episodes, I've been doing this little feature called West End Geek Girls.
00:52:39
Speaker
Back in the day, in the late 80s, West End Games, a US company, brought out Star Wars, the role-playing game, which is very much like Dungeons & Dragons, but set in the
Exploring the Deveronian Species
00:52:48
Speaker
Star Wars US. Yes. And I used to play it when I was at school. I loved it so much. I still love it. I've still got all my books. So I noticed that especially Filoni and Favreau, i don't know which, or maybe it's Pablo Hidalgo, somebody from Lucasfilm is drawing on stuff from the original role-playing game.
00:53:07
Speaker
And it's got me more and more intrigued about all of this because I keep spotting things and thinking, that was in the role-playing game. And I've not really heard of it since. Where has it come from? so I've been doing a bit of research. There's a book that's recently come out that I've forgotten the name of in typical Brammerin style, but next week I will mention it, that's written by one of the guys that was involved with West End Games at the time. And he's talking about how, like for instance, the ISB, if you've watched Andor, the Imperial Security Bureau is a big part of that story. That originated in a Star Wars source book as like almost a sort of little throwaway adventure component. And it's now become part of one of the... Part of the universe.
00:53:45
Speaker
Biggest parts of Star Wars universe. Yeah. So I've decided, sorry to hear, that every episode, um for as long as I can keep it going, I'm going to dip in at some point and talk about that one of the things in whatever we've been watching And this is the point. Which goes back to the RPG. Okay, so fair play.
00:54:05
Speaker
He's a Deveronian, and Deveronians go back to A New Hope. They're one of the first species we see in the Cantina, okay briefly. um But we didn't really hear anything about them throughout the whole original trilogy.
00:54:17
Speaker
They have come back since. We've seen them in, I think, the Clone Wars, definitely in Rebels. There's an amazing Deveronian in Rebels. yeah But this is one of the first live-action Deveronians we've seen, and...
00:54:29
Speaker
He's really cool. I love him as a character. So I looked up Devaronian because one of the things that West End Games did with the role-playing game is they looked at all of the aliens that we'd had in the original trilogy yeah that probably didn't have a name or had a silly name. Like the Star Wars figures would come out. And so there was a figure called Hammerhead and there was a figure called Walrus Man, you know, and Snaggletooth. All of those kind of thingss yeah Nobody named their species, but role-playing game gave them proper names. So Greedo species became Rhodians and yeah Hammerheads became Ithorians. and they So they fleshed them out. and
00:55:03
Speaker
Or they didn't even have a name at all, like a Deveronian. We didn't have a clue what this was going to be called. yeah So, devaronians are mammalian bipeds, which we know. um yeah I did not know most of this, or I'd forgotten it. Okay, interesting. The males of the species have completely hairless, red-tinted skin yeah um with a pair of dark corns, obviously. yeah Apparently, the females are covered with a mat of thick fur, ranging from white to brown. Nice.
00:55:29
Speaker
And they don't have horns either, so they look completely different the males, which I had no idea about. That pretty In fact i feel like I've possibly come across a female in a role-playing game that looks like a male, one which isn't quite right. Unless it's a trans-Deveronian, of course, which that's a whole to explore. It's whole other thing to unpack. They're very different as well. like The two sexes are very different personality-wise. Males are very interesting and they lead exciting lives full of action and adventure. But they're not very trustworthy or dependable, apparently. yeah Whereas females are very dependable and trustworthy, but they're not so interesting um because they often allow allow their responsibilities to consume them, which is quite interesting. Interesting. thing So the the males go out around the galaxy exploring. They've got wanderlust and yeah they they travel around. So if you're playing the role-playing game, chances are you're going to be playing a male if you want to play Mediterranean. Because the females tend not to leave. They're staying at home. The home planet, yeah. They stay at home and they they govern it. They are the government.
00:56:32
Speaker
They don't let the males get involved at all. They absolutely... de That sounds great, actually. I was going say, when I first started reading this, I was about like, well, not sure about this. By the way, this is from the Galaxy Guide Volume 4 Alien Races book. Okay. Which was like an amended part, like an add-on to the main game.
00:56:57
Speaker
Yeah, so they're governed by the females who don't allow the males to participate, even if they wanted to. It's a very organised government and it's built around stability and strength. And the males are, in quotes, allowed for rather than considered part of society. Which
00:57:16
Speaker
that sentence is what made me want to... There were several things I could have done in this episode for Westlakey Girls, but this is the one. Love it. Because I thought... That actually sounds great. Hilarious. yeah a little ah A little planet where... Yeah.
00:57:31
Speaker
It makes complete sense. like Because when you originally said they're not very interesting, was like, oh, that doesn't sound like fun. This is the 80s, gosh. Actually. Patriarchy. Just planet on my own. Yeah, wait. Just... a Fair play. Let's just send all the mails off to other places. It says, it gets better, it says, Devereigny mails are wanderers and vagrants and are extremely self-centred.
00:57:57
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it's However, it does say that they're generally not concerned with material wealth. Well, I think Berg is an exception. Berg seems to be, yeah. He's in it for the money, I think. Yeah. Or he's in it for the violence. Yeah, it says as long as they have enough money to enjoy themselves, which that probably is Berg. He just likes to have a good time, earn some money, do some violence, and probably buy some Corellian brandy or something. It's going to surprise he's the muscle. Yeah.
00:58:26
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um They're not very political at all because of their lack of ties. The males, this is. Yeah. Because they don't have a tie to any particular location. They're just ready to move on. So so in terms of the role-playing game, they were kind of good to meet because there'd be useful like non-player characters to take the party somewhere because they're constantly travelling. So that was their kind of role. Yeah.
00:58:47
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Anyway, that was the little tangent about Demeronians. I love Berg. I can't remember who the actor is. Again, I think he's quite well known. didn't recognize him, but he's just so good. He's great. So good. He is fat. He embodies, obviously there's a lot of prosthetics and stuff that's gone into makeup and everything, but he just embodies it. It looks and feels so natural. Yeah.
00:59:12
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yeah And then we've got Zero. I love Zero. Did you recognise his voice? Of course I did. course. I know
00:59:26
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i know that voice as soon as it speaks. We've got so many British comedy greats in Star Wars playing droids now. Yeah, we've got quite. Matt Berry is coming up as a drawing. No. David Tennant is a droid. What? I mean, he's not a comedy great, but he's a he's a great British great. We'll have him. And he is quite comedy. He is quite comedy, yeah, yeah. Definitely. Yeah, that's true.
00:59:50
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But yeah. Oh, I laughed my head off when you first spoke. I want him as a sat-nav voice. Yeah. Actually, I have a note about that. my My note was, I want Richard Daiwadi to voice my sat-nav as Zero.
01:00:05
Speaker
And then in brackets, I put, or Michael Sheen as any version of himself he wants to be. We are missing Michael Sheen in the Star Wars Galaxy so far. Ah, he's busy man. Yeah. He's a bit of a Sisters of the Force favourite, just for our listeners. site Just so they make come up again.
01:00:21
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i But yeah, this is a bit of a cyclical moment because we mentioned Boosh earlier on. We did. Oh yeah, we're back to Richard. Sabu from Boosh. Yeah.
01:00:33
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Oh, British comedy greats. We love him. He's so good. And i I don't think he was in the suit. I meant to look up who was actually performing. Whoever is in the suit is great. Oh, so But his sound design as well, I love yeah all of his movement. is yeah It's like louder than we've had before. He looks like a fly. Yeah, his face, like I read in the art book.
01:00:57
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I hadn't even noticed it, but but I'm glad I read it before I watched it again because yeah they were so chuffed that when they went to hyperspace and because in the volume, you know, they're inside a kind of part set of the the cockpit of the Razorcrest. Yeah, sure. and the stars going to the star lines for hyperspace is obviously on the volume walls. yeah So it it reflects in his like eyes, in his insectoid eyes. And if you watch it again, just look out for when they jump because it is the coolest bit of cinematography. You could never do that if you didn't have the volume. You couldn't CGI that in the way. it just looks so organic and real. It like sells not only Zero as a droid and his like texture and everything, but it also sells going to hyperspace. You actually believe...
01:01:43
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Oh, we can go to Hyde Space because it's reflected in Zero's eyes. Can I get that on the t-shirt? Yes. I love it.
01:01:55
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Last but not least. Yeah. You can introduce her because you know much more about her than I do. I know about that. You introduced her to me. Did I? i think back in the Back in the day. When she played um a character we shall not name in series. Yeah, in a franchise that we shall not name. Yeah, sure. Yeah. So apart from being in a franchise that we shall not name in a film series that we shall name and being a character that we shall not name, she's a musician.
01:02:19
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and And they are one of my all-time favorite festival bands, Molotov Jukebox. Wow. Which means she's really accessible. i've I've hung around near her so many times. Yeah, yeah. Which is just like, what? I think I follow her on socials and I think she's quite chatty. like She's really chatty. Yeah.
01:02:38
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Natalia Tenner, we should probably name her. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Rather than just leaving her a mystery. i mean, they could go on Google. or Yeah, they could go on Google. I... I love her to pieces. I think she's got like an incredible sense of humour and her playing and like performance as a musician is just lush. She's magical. yeah But in this, she's terrifying. Crushes it.
01:03:06
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I noted, like it isn't a quote exactly, but she cat hisses. She does, yeah. Which isn't a Twi'lek thing particularly. No. And she doesn't have the Twi'lek French accent. So she's clearly like Hera. She's a British Twi'lek. That's lived among other races so much that she's lost her accent. And was probably even brought up not on Ryloth or anything. My note was we've never seen, have we ever seen a Twi'lek like her? Because she's...
01:03:31
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Yes. ah Yes. yeah yeah Okay. In the animated shows. Okay. We go to Ryloth a lot in Clone Wars and right sometimes in Rebels as well. And because one of the main characters of Rebels is a Twi'lek, so we go to Ryloth in connection with that and her family. and Because Ryloth as a planet suffered hard under the Empire. I think they weren't part of the Republic possibly.
01:03:57
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And the empire sort of enslaved. It was just awful, m which is why the first Twilocks that we meet are in Jabba's palace, one being his head honcho and the other being a dancer slave girl. You know, there's this whole...
01:04:13
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They've had a really difficult time and still are, even in the New Republic era, like it's not been a very peaceful place to come Still not good. Yeah. So I think there are lots of aggressive Twi'leks out there have been fighting for so long, forever, or were enslaved and have had to escape or fight their way out or whatever.
Twi'lek Characters and Cultural Diversity
01:04:31
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Yeah, of course.
01:04:32
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It's a really, you know, challenged race of people. I forget that Jabba's henchman is a Twi'lek actually. Yeah. Yeah, he's very different, i guess, because he's kind of an older and older one. yeah But yeah, we see all sorts. There's all kinds of Twi'leks. I mean, Hera from Rebels is just the most beautiful mother figure character. She's so nice. yeah and You just want her to be you know part of your family. And yeah yeah there are other Twi'leks we've met that are equally lovely, but then we have also met some scoundrels. yeah
01:05:03
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I did also note that Shian in particular, she has her own set of like, very tango-esque violin score that comes in with her yeah yeah yeah what yeah interesting and i mean she dances around like physically she's very like strike pose yeah yeah yeah but she's terrifying fighting with knives yeah like yeah she's lethal i love her name by the way xian which is like x i hyphen a n a n yeah that I know a lot of Twi'lek, well, the word Twi'lek has a hyphen, not hyphen, sorry, an apostrophe. It's got apostrophes in the middle it.
01:05:39
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And I've seen other names that have apostrophes
Mando and Zero: Droid Dynamics
01:05:42
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in them as well. Okay. So yeah, my next note for this was they're off. They're off in the Razor Quest. Mando's annoyed that Zero's flying the ship.
01:05:53
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Yeah. And then they all start peer pressuring him to take his helmet off. terrifying before we get into that because that is like terrifying just your point about him not liking zero did you notice that mando called zero it yes i did whereas ran calls zero he like within the same conversation they're using different pronouns yeah which just is another example of mando's disdain for droids he just cannot with droids Yeah. People seem to do it to Grogu quite a lot as well. Yeah, I think... It goes between it and he quite a lot. Yeah, they just don't know what to make of him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. think like there's a bit, as we' we'll get into this argument that they're kind of having, or the kind of confrontation. Yeah. like Okay, so yeah, as you were saying, that they're like the helmet thing, which I was on the edge of my seat.
01:06:41
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Yeah, they're all kind of bullying him and you're not quite sure which way it's going to go And they're bickering among each other as well yeah they're ribbing him but also on the edge of fighting each other. i mean, Mayfeld seems the most...
01:06:54
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Grounded
Tensions Aboard the Razor Quest
01:06:55
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of all of them. Yeah. But like, and that isn't saying anything because he's awful as well. yeah Yeah. But Xian is like absolutely winding him up. Yeah. She's obviously got history with him. Yeah.
01:07:06
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And Berg just wants to sort intimidate him. Cause chaos. Yeah. He doesn't like it because Mando closes his weapons door. Yeah. Yeah. It's like no weapons for you. Yeah.
01:07:18
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But yeah, they accidentally discover Grogu. Yeah, that's also scary. Terrifying. Does Mando pretend he's his pet? Yeah, they Just quiet life. Mayfeld just says, is this some sort of pet? And Mando says, yes. yeah And then Mayfeld is like, maybe I want a pet. And like picks him up and pretends to drop him and stuff. And I'm just like, oh, leave him alone. Put him down. and it's all quite tense. And Mando's like trying to be really nonchalant about it, but keeping a really firm eye on the situation.
Design and Themes of the Prison Ship
01:07:48
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Yeah, yeah.
01:07:49
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I loved Mayfeld's line. This was almost a line I chose. Maybe he's a Gungan. yeah And then he impersonates a Gungan and he's really good. He's like, great. I did notice that. was quite fun. Another line. I loved Mayfeld again. i could just trim an album Mayfeld's lines. Mayfeld's great. He's got a loony line too. He says, did you two make that? Yeah. A Twillock and a Mandalorian. Yeah. Well, maybe.
01:08:18
Speaker
Zero's landing. my goodness. think we should just shout out Zero's flying. And he's narrating it. Yeah. I had my note for that was, I love that Zero's talking his way through all of the things because that's exactly what I do as well. That's how my brain works. And it's like, do this now, do this now, and this now. That's exactly what you're doing. love it.
01:08:42
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lover No countdowns. No. If it works, it works. Definitely. He did it. He managed. i had to drive a bit like that today. It was terrifying.
01:08:52
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Then they get onto onto the prison ship, which is really cool looking. I love that set. Yeah. It's a bit reminiscent of... um Cell blocks. A new hope of the blockade runner. It was a cross between the blockade runner, the white walls and everything, and the cell
Escalating Tension and Star Wars References
01:09:06
Speaker
bay of the Death Star. It's kind of somewhere in between the two, yeah which I'm sure was intentional. yeah Some of the droids that we see, we see a few different types of droids, but some of them are floating ones, the ones that Berg smashes up later on. Yeah, it looks like dustbins. I think we saw one on Owen Lars' farm when the Jawas are lining up the droids to sell. okay. I think I'd need to go back and check, I'm pretty sure... That's where the design comes from. I think it was in the art of book.
01:09:32
Speaker
Which, side note, if you like the visuals of Star Wars and you like finding out how stuff evolved in Star Wars Galaxy, they do art of books for most of the TV shows. um And they're all incredible. They're big coffee table books. They're not cheap, but...
01:09:48
Speaker
Visually, this is for the listener's benefit, by the way, as well as you. like it's It's well worth investing in. If there's a series you like, go and find the art of book. You learn so much about the background of the show as well as just being blown away by all the design and yeah um all the different people sharing their stories of like their contributions. Designing stuff, yeah. It's amazing. Loads of Easter egg stuff. It's really good.
01:10:10
Speaker
Excellent. We meet a mouse droid. Yeah. It's just a little mousy. did have a... what What is the purpose of a mouse droid? I think they take messages. like Because obviously, you know, Star Wars technology hasn't evolved to the point where you can like wirelessly send messages from one partnership to another. Right.
01:10:31
Speaker
I've seen them used in definitely in role playing games, but I'm sure I've seen it used somewhere in the animated shows. We'll track it. Okay. When we do Clone Wars, when we do Rebels, we'll look out because there's mouse droids all over it. And they all, I'm getting a bit tired of... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they all do that. They all do that, yeah.
01:10:51
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Although, as I think I mentioned it in the um Last Jedi Breakdown, BB-8 does a comedy version of it when they put the laundry bin over his head. Yeah.
01:11:03
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If I didn't bring it I meant to, because love that detail. I think you did bring it up, yeah. there's a Did you spot the Ardenian, which is from Solo, the character Rio with four arms? Yes. There's one of his species in one of cells. In one of the cells. nice That's all like really, that again, more tension, but like them walking through the cells and all
Character Dynamics and Tactical Skills
01:11:24
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of these like...
01:11:25
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presumably criminals criminals in all of these cells just like what criminals as far as the new republic goes anyway i mean it feels like the new republic is in a bit of a mess still yes it's very early days yeah um and we can talk about that when the x-wings turn up later but like yeah the whole thing is feels a bit like sketchy hard yeah very sketchy because that yeah quite quickly we get to the bridge uh where there's this human but they didn't expect to be there i think that's my interpretation of it Well, Mando is just like, you said there wasn't a new people. Yeah. and Did they know? Who knows? Yeah, who knows?
01:12:01
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Yeah, Easter egg, Matt Lanter plays him. He's the guy voices Anakin Skywalker in The Clone Wars. Oh, okay, cool. And it's so lush that he got to have a part. Because, I mean, obviously, like yeah he and the other actors who play you know all the characters in The Clone Wars. Yeah, yeah. Like Ashley Eckstein and, you know, they they're sort of playing all these beloved, hugely, you know, developed characters. yeah Some of them obviously playing characters we know from other actors playing them like Hayden or whatever. But it's so lush when we get to see them in in live action. We really want to see Ashley in live action at some point. I'm kind of gutted that she isn't playing Ahsoka in live action. I get it. Rosario Dawson phenomenal as Ahsoka. I'm not going to take anyway yeah anything away from her, but I can't help feeling would have liked Well, equally with some of the Rebels characters, like they've recast them yeah in live action, which i I kind of get it, but but also it's just a bit hard yeah when those poor people have been playing those characters for so long is and years and years.
01:13:07
Speaker
But yeah, anyway, it's just nice to see them on screen. yeah And more 70s looking controls. Yeah. Yes. Is this what you're talking about? This is what I was talking about with the like, he gets the little thingy out, the distress beacon. And I'm like, that is the most like 70s tech I've ever seen. What is going on? The very first remote control you could get for something in your house. yeah I'm sure it's like intentional. Again, I think it possibly speaks to the fact that the New Republic are scrabbling to build a government, you know yeah a galactic government.
01:13:40
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They've inherited what the Empire left behind. and yeah There's a lot about this in the books and you know the k kind of aftermath the aftermath haven't Bells up. Here we go. The bingo card. Every week.
01:13:57
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Yeah, there's a lot of talk about how the New Republic is struggling with the idea of like reusing Empire tech yeah and and not wanting to, but at the same time... But they kind of have to. They kind of have to. Or they, in like in this case, I think, use old tech that they were using before. Sure. So everything's a bit held together. Yeah. And and like he just seems to have no idea what to do yeah in this situation.
Twi'lek Naming and High-Stakes Dynamics
01:14:22
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And it all gets very tense with all of the guns pointing in all directions. It's a combination of the Spider-Man meme with the three Spider-Mans. And there's a scene in the US office um in an episode called Murder, which is i think in itself is a reference to the Spider-Man scene where yeah they do a gun standoff with four of them in a similar way. And it's just like, oh, the tension. Yeah. The tension at this point, because we have got this time pressure, yeah which we've already got that because they've already given themselves like 20 minute turnaround or something before they leave the ship. But then Zero's giving them like, oh, he's pressed the button. he's pressed the button, therefore. They're coming. yeah You now have five minutes. It's like always upping the ante. He says, you have 20 minutes.
01:15:10
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And Xi'an goes, we need five. He just walks out. Love it. ah Okay, so my line that I chose at the beginning of the episode, Crazy Tweak, happens here, which is version of our tracking of things having two names. Now, I know Twi'lek Tweak. It's just a shortened version of Twi'lek. But love that they did that, that they come the fact that some people call them Tweaks, because I don't think I've heard anybody call a Twi'lek that before. Okay. To actually shorten it and cut out some of the letters, which the fact it's got an apostrophe in it already suggests there's some missing letters that we've dropped over the years. don't know what the original word would have been. But yeah, I love that. It's such a tiny little detail in the script. Such tiny detail. Love it. And Bill Bird just does it so naturally as though that's, of course, what he calls a Twi'lek. Yeah.
01:16:00
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My note then was we've got more evil Twi'leks because we meet Quinn. Oh, yeah, Quinn. Yeah. Oh, he's awful. He's horrible. He's just he just doesn't care about his sister. He's so two-faced. They have a little moment and then that's it. Yeah.
01:16:18
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I mean, he locks Mando... Straight in the cell. Well, they all do. Collectively do. Which is awful, awful. Although, obviously, I not going to keep him in there for very long. No. And, of course, once he gets out, Mando does that. like I don't know if he does it intentionally, that move of like separating them ya into two groups with the doors. It's ah like the opposite of Rey. Yes.
01:16:40
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cutting off the Rattar's tentacle. It's the same kind of timing. He separates them all out. Because he's got the screens there, hasn't he? He's right in the control room again. He's got multiple screens. You can see what he's doing.
01:16:51
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At that point, I did write, ah yes, bitches, four versus one, I like these odds. Yeah. We're back to this. Yes.
Action and Humor Aboard the Ship
01:17:03
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The tension then, like he because he then puts the red lighting on and the white strobe. I don't if he put that on intentionally or whether that's just the ship auto doing that, but it makes even more tense. It makes it so tense. It's classic, classic tension building, but also the score is incredible at that point. It's just like, it's so synthy and so lush.
01:17:25
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i was just like, this is great. Yeah. We get a couple of comedy light breaks. um Zero saying, it seems comms are no longer functioning, therefore you cannot hear me. yeah yeah But then he starts hunting Grogu. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like this cat of mouse yeah starts on board the Razorcrest, which is so tense. Yeah. So then we're just cutting between two tense things. Yeah. Yeah.
01:17:51
Speaker
Mayfeld says something about nice family. Where Kryn's just like, oh yeah, whatever. Kryn's like, oh, leave her. Yeah. Yeah. And then they all split up into individuals. What are you doing? Yeah. You're on a ship with a Mandalorian on the loose. Yeah.
01:18:08
Speaker
Who's angry. i'm trying to get him. You know, you just tried to lock him up and you know he's broken out. Yeah. You're going to go off on your own? Yeah. That was wild stupid. You've seen him take out those droids earlier on. like Yeah. Yeah.
01:18:19
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believe we glossed past that scene by the way but anyway there's so much going on so much going on sadly the whistling birds don't work on berg Yes, I did.
Zero's Hunt and Climactic Escape
01:18:31
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That was a note. Wait, was that whistling birds on Berg?
01:18:34
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I think it was. But I thought, because that I was thinking, like did they not work on him? Because it looked like Berg was the one who smashed into them. So then like Mando wasn't really in control of them because it was more Berg smashing him interests that set them off.
01:18:51
Speaker
I'll have to watch that again. Yeah, because that's what I thought had happened. I thought they were heat-seeking sort of things. Yeah, because Mando didn't actually control them and they all went off in different directions when his wrist got smashed. He does the fist-clenching thing, doesn't he? you Yeah.
01:19:05
Speaker
He sets them off. Episode three. Hmm. All right, okay. Need to revisit this. Because it was bit unexplained. I didn't quite get it. Yeah, I thought it was an accident smashing and just explosions happened. Yeah. He does attempt a Rancor-style kill. Yes. Which doesn't quite hurt. But then the side doors come in and it's like, well... Although as we find out, it's actually... He's actually fine, yeah, yeah.
01:19:33
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I did write that's a really gruesome way to go if that's how he went. Yeah. It's so grim. You think you've escaped one way and then the other blast doors close, aren't you? Yeah, yeah. It was inevitable at some point. we've We've been teased by blast doors since the original movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the sort of like...
01:19:49
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Yeah, aperturing doors isn't the word. I'm not sure. He'll do. Mando does a Batman move on Mayfeld. Yes. We get the classic. Like, hope we can't see him. And then suddenly he's there. Yeah. Right behind him. I loved I was like, yeah, sure. Give me all of that. It's great. I think with the red lighting and the strobes going off, that's what you need.
01:20:10
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Classic. Grogu thought he'd blasted zero. yes And Gregory looks at his hand as if to say, He looks at own hand and like, what's happening?
01:20:23
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Before that, we've got a whole little we've got a whole little shian fight as well with Mando oh my gosh I'd forgotten that yeah the knife fight they have a knife fight and she's lobbing things at him yeah and yeah they leave it quite ambiguous until the epilogue but yeah yeah it's quite clever on the rewatch how you notice that all the deaths are inconclusive yeah or not even seen yeah you don't see them you don't see any of them die like that yeah But then yeah, Grogu's little... What? My note was what would have Grogu done if to zero if Mando hadn't shot him first?
01:21:00
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Well, he would have probably blasted Zero across the... Whatever that space is. Cargo bay, I guess it is. He would have done something. And then I just wrote classic tracker switcheroo. So many switcheroos we've had. yeah as The maximum amount of switcheroos you're allowed in any heist. Yeah, you have to have at least a certain number. yeah We can't finish
Director Cameos and Episode Reflections
01:21:23
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without talking about Trapper Wolf and and the other two X-Wing pilots, who are three directors, Dave Filoni, Rick Famuyiwa, and Deborah Chow. Nice.
01:21:34
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Who have directed the emphasis episodede several of the last few Mandalorian episodes. And they gave themselves cameos. And Filoni is the only one with a name, as far as we know, which is Trapper Wolf.
01:21:48
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And Filoni is known to be obsessed with Wolf. Sounds like a discover when we watch Rebel. Nice. I nearly, nearly picked it as well. was, I told you that was a bad idea, was going to be.
01:22:00
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Yeah. Great line. Such good line. Driving away as everything's blowing up. Such Mundo line. Lush. I love these two episodes. So much going on. good.
01:22:12
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They sort seem simple on the surface, but when you're actually getting so much going on. I think so far, out of the ones that we've covered, The Prisoner might be my favourite one. Just because of the cameos and the like nutsness of it all. Yeah.
01:22:26
Speaker
Great characters. It's a really well-directed heist. It's, yeah, Prison Break. Classic. Classic, yeah but Star Wars, you know? it's yeah ah is very popular, i think, among the fans for all of those reasons. It's a bit of a glimpse into the New Republic as well that we haven't had much of. It's our first, like, seeing...
01:22:48
Speaker
New Republic yeah X-Wing yeah scouts, you know, like out there um in the Outer Rim checking up what's going on and and a prison ship with a New Republic guard on. It sort of pulls us back into the bigger galaxy.
01:23:02
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It's pretty cool.
Community Shoutouts and Fandom Engagement
01:23:03
Speaker
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01:23:16
Speaker
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01:23:32
Speaker
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01:23:57
Speaker
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01:24:33
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01:24:49
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Very, very good friend. Both of us, really. can't wait to talk about Star Wars. ah With him. du And yeah, we're going to be talking about the final two episodes of Mando season one. it's yeah a big story wrap up. I love it. I can't wait. Excellent.
01:25:05
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Yeah. I'm excited. We'll see you then. Bye. Bye.