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Delving into THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT Chapters 3 and 4 | 020
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Join Branwen and Seah as they deep dive into all things Star Wars. Follow along as we fly off exploring all the wonders and geekery of a Galaxy Far, Far Away, chatting nostalgia, worlds, lore, sound, music, story, behind the scenes, and much more with each other and some very special guests.
This season, we're on a rewatch of The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett in the run-up to the release of The "Mandalorian and Grogu" in cinemas in May.
In our twentieth episode (woop!) we're continuing our journey through The Book of Boba Fett, Chapter 3 "The Streets of Mos Espa" and Chapter 4 "The Gathering Storm". We talk about themes, performances, story details, Mods (what would you get?), Joseph Shirley's incredible score, Jabba's palace, crime syndicate hierarchy, Krrsantan, and much more. Watch out for our brand new segment "West End Geek Girls", which now has a little theme tune!
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Impactful Moments in The Book of Boba Fett
00:00:16
Speaker
Hi, Branwen. Hello. What is your favourite line from The Book of Boba Fett, Episode 3 and or 4? Hit it, Max. ah Nice. but I was struggling to find one and then that happened at the end of episode 4. I was like, yeah, this is the one. See ya. Hi. Hello, what's your favourite line from Book of Abbot, chapter 3 or 4? I've got two, but the one that hit me quite hard today was, you can only get so far without a tribe.
00:00:46
Speaker
oh yes so See, this is your week to do serious one. Yeah. The other one was, next time don't touch my buttons. but That's a good one.
00:00:57
Speaker
But then he said that and I was like, oh no. Yeah, that's a serious line. That's a real, like, I think that's a theme about what we're going to be talking about today. So that's a nice cool little introduction. Excellent.
Introduction to Sisters of the Force Podcast
00:01:11
Speaker
You're listening to Sisters of the Force and I'm Branwen. And I'm Sia. And we talk about Star Wars, which is super fun. Funnily enough. That's what I live Funnily enough, with a name like ours. Yeah. We're currently part through a kind of deep dive into the Book of Boba Fett TV series, which came a frightening number of years ago. did it? Yeah, feels like it was only yesterday, but it's quite a few years ago now. And we're on a kind of a journey of TV shows leading up to the release of The Mandalorian and Grogu, which is a Star Wars film coming out.
00:01:46
Speaker
In May. Ooh, how exciting. It's like three and a half months or something like that. That's quite close, isn't it? Terrifying. i haven't finished Mando season three. Sorry, you're going to watch it again. Yeah, going to watch it again. Very, very soon.
00:02:03
Speaker
I'm holding so many plot lines in my head, I can't. It must be really confusing. I'm so confused. I've just started two other series on Netflix as well now as well, so that'll confuse me more for a bit. And a book. Yeah, it's the multiple thing. we We have to carry around a lot of very important information these days. yeah yeah It's a lot. Thank you, streaming.
Reflecting on The Book of Boba Fett Reception
00:02:25
Speaker
I'll tell you what, i've been we're now effectively, having watched these two episodes, we're now over halfway through The Book of Boba Fett and I am enjoying it so much. Yeah. The first time around, there was a lot of flack about it in the kind of negative Star Wars community space. Sure.
00:02:44
Speaker
And it really, i hate it when it that happens in real time and it kind of starts to affect your- Your thinking. Like viewing experience. Yeah. Yeah. Because it was coming out weekly, like each time and a new episode would drop, there'd be more negative pushback. Yeah, yeah. So then the following week, you start like overthinking yourself, like, am I really enjoying this? Yeah. And watching it now with distance from that, ah the answer is yes, I was really enjoying it. Yeah. really enjoying it now. It's so full of interesting light themes and lore and all of the stuff that I love about Star Wars. There is a lot going on. I wonder if that's kind of, I try not to really engage with anything online about the thing that I'm enjoying. Yeah, that's a very, very good plan. Yeah, I just, i don't i don't have any interest in what other people think about it until after I've finished the thing. Okay, yeah. So I tend to, whatever, this is part of my binge-watching problem as well, though, is that I will go and I'll watch the thing and I won't engage in what anyone else thinks about it until I've finished it and I've made up my mind and then I go and look at what other people are saying. That's wise. Yeah, and I think it's it changes the viewing experience then. I'm also...
00:03:52
Speaker
chronically late to all of these things. I'm
Division in Star Wars Fandom
00:03:56
Speaker
a little bit guilty of that in a lot of things, but not Star Wars. I'm always yeah first in the queue. First in. I think when this came out, there's like a sort of a five-year period where the fandom kind of transitioned in the Disney age. I mean, it didn't really transition. It was already set up as soon as Disney brought out Lucasfilm. It was inevitable that we were going to have this like toxic fan base thing going on and the fandom started to sort of actually divide in a sort of a sensible way because it kind of needed to into the fans that aren't toxic sure and might you know have a few issues with stuff of course that's like natural yeah but generally with Star Wars positive to the kind of clickbait like YouTubers and podcasters which is basically selling hate you know like purposefully being hateful just yeah which now we see across all of the internet But i think i feel now there's a healthier situation going on where those people can fester in their own... They're all still watching Star Wars, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:04:55
Speaker
I'm not liking that much. But yeah, they're just festering in their own like yeah dislike of everything. Sure. Whereas there is certainly, I don't know, I've certainly experienced this in the podcast community just by listening to quite a lot of I've been trying loads of different podcasts, listening to different ones and they're all really Star Wars positive and and fun and full of nice people. And Blue Sky has helped, I think, because that's generally a very positive space. Very nice place, yeah. yeah and it's And that's filtered into Instagram, I feel like. those yeah Some people are braved.
00:05:26
Speaker
coming back to Instagram and it's, yeah, there's some good stuff going on. Interesting. That's very interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
Robert Rodriguez's Influence
00:05:34
Speaker
Anyway, i suppose we should get into these episodes. Let's get in. Yeah. A bit of like big picture stuff. Yeah. It's very interesting to think about. Yeah. So we've got Robert Rodriguez is back. He's not, I don't know if he was exactly the showrunner. don't think if you had that label of the Book of Boba Fett. Okay. It's probably still Jon Favreau, but he was very influential in it and he's directed, this is his second episode already. Yeah. And we're only on episode three. Yeah. So I think he directs.
00:06:00
Speaker
A couple more even, maybe. At least one more. Okay. But yeah, he seemed to have a lot to do with it As we mentioned last week, he directed the episode of The Mandalorian, Where the Boba Fett... Where Boba Fett appears. Yeah, appears.
00:06:12
Speaker
And yeah, he's back again with this one.
Exploring Star Wars Lore: Booma Monks
00:06:15
Speaker
Cool. The Streets of Moz Espa. Yeah, we are. and My first note was, ew, brain jar creature. Yeah. Jessica told me what these are, and I can't remember. Yeah. I feel like we talked about them in the Return of the Jedi breakdown that we did, but maybe not. Are they monks? They are monks of the Boomer. It's like B-apostrophe-O-M-A-R-R sect.
00:06:42
Speaker
And they want to detach themselves from all physical like senses. Yes. Okay, yes. This is feeling familiar. They're aiming for purity. Yeah, got it. So they remove themselves from their bodies.
00:06:55
Speaker
And yeah, they're just literally the brains in a jar. Like that monk practice of mummifying yourself while you're still alive. Is that a thing? That is a thing. Oh, gosh. Oh, yes. It's pretty grim. Right. I don't know which came first. Was it the monks of Boma or was the mummification monk?
00:07:13
Speaker
I can't remember what they're called, but yeah yeah, look it up, it's creepy. I can kind of believe that that's the thing. Yeah, that tracks. There's all sorts of people out there. So yeah, I looked this up because I did sort of remember, but I didn't remember all the details. And Jabba's Palace was originally one of their monasteries yeah on Tatooine.
00:07:32
Speaker
And when he kind of came in and took over, sort of appropriated the the palace without their consent. But he kind of let them continue to wander around because he found them amusing to watch. Right. Okay.
00:07:45
Speaker
ah sure Which I guess is on brand for Java? don't know. Yeah. Quite funny.
Matt Berry and Controversial Roles
00:07:51
Speaker
Yeah, pretty gross. Okay. There's some things about Matt Berry. Matt Berry is a British comedy actor yes who I love. light He comes from Mighty Boosh, which we've talked about before. Yeah. We have, yeah. And he's been in many things. I love Toast of London. It's hilarious. Yeah. And what we do in the shadows, I mean, gosh, Laszlo. Yeah.
00:08:10
Speaker
But he is one of those actors now that has stepped into the world of, ironically, she who must not be named. Because the first quote that I wrote down of this episode was 88 saying, the name that should not be spoken. Should not be spoken, yeah. Referring to Jabba. And I'm like, oh, the absolute irony of that, that you are now colluding with...
00:08:32
Speaker
Come on, Matt Berry. Sort yourself out. If we're talking too cryptically, he's in the new Harry Potter audiobook series on Audible. The franchise that shall not be named. Yeah, which no I'm going to name in shame because... You're going to name in shame. Excellent. If you haven't worked out, listeners, I'm a trans person. And yeah, it's a bit sad
Power Dynamics in Mos Espa
00:08:51
Speaker
that I keep losing some of my favourite artists into the domain of yeah yeah money making. Yeah, anyway.
00:08:59
Speaker
But I do love his pronunciation of Fortuna. Yes. There's another pronunciation thing later on which I'm just going to jump to. Excellent. think it's right near the end. He's got some hilarious ways of pronouncing stuff. Yeah, he describes the Acrylish spokesperson as Master Garfalaquox. Yes. And my betting is that they knew Matt Berry was going to be this character when they wrote that scene. Oh, okay. And they're like, what's the best name we can write? What can we write for him? For Matt Berry because he's kind of known for his overpronunciation. yeah, yeah.
00:09:33
Speaker
Tasha Dimitri does an incredible impression of Matt Berry. Does she? Obviously, she plays his wife in What We Do the Shadows, so she's she spends a lot of time with him and she rinses him in a way that is so beautiful. She does it on the Adam Buxton podcast, if anyone's interested in that. i'm Amazing. After through his little pronunciation of Fortuna, which I'm not going to do yes successfully, he then does a really nice bit of like exposition for us.
00:09:58
Speaker
I mean, he's really doing it for the characters in the room, but it's quite helpful. It's a good little lore drop. Yeah, like this is what's going on. If you haven't figured it out. Here's where we're at. We got the Trandoshans, we got the Aquilish and we got the Klatooinians. Yes. All ostensibly existing under Bib Fortuna, but Bib Fortuna's pretty rubbish, so... There may be uprising. Yeah. It's all kind of out there. It was hanging in the balance. Yeah. And and then, of course, Boba came along and... Has destroyed balance....assassuated Bib Fortuna and has now upset the balance. Yes. There's the mayor as well, but Fennec points out that he's got no power. Yes.
00:10:32
Speaker
And I guess there' there's a lot in these two episodes about this like delicate balance of what's going on. Yeah, that's what these two are about, really. It's kind of setting up. Yeah. Setting up for later on. Yeah. So now we've kind of got this who's who of where and what's going on and where we are. Yeah. And we now know who's going to be a threat and who's going to be yeah yeah what the outcomes are likely to be.
00:10:52
Speaker
I like the fact that we see all these different factions in these two episodes. We see a lot more of them, which helps us to watch in real time the kind of balance of power among... It's not exactly criminal underwear. mean, there's crimes going on for sure. It kind of is, but it kind isn't, isn't it? It's a bit odd. Yeah. As we mentioned before, like Mos Espa is a bit more well-to-do than Mos Eisley. In fact, there's a reference to that later on, can't remember which episode it is, where I think he says to the kids, you can go and live in Mos Eisley. No, he says it to the water merchant. Of course, yeah, yes. He tells him to go.
00:11:27
Speaker
He says, if you don't like it, go to Mos Eisley. In other words, Mos Eisley is still a wretched hive of scum and villainy, as we knew it was. So yeah, it is interesting, but it's like we find out there is crime going on. Of course. There is spy stealing and all of the stuff. yeah And some unscrupulous business managers like the water guy. Yeah.
00:11:46
Speaker
But it's not quite as criminal as maybe it was under Jamba, maybe. i don't know. Maybe it's worse. Who knows? Who knows? Difficult to tell. We're not sure. Yeah. But I found all of this like stuff fascinating in these episodes. I think it's kind of what I've been hungering for, a kind of more detailed, crimey, sort of underworld-flavoured Star Wars show yeah for a while, and which involves alien races and the different syndicates and all of this stuff. And I'm kind of loving all of that.
00:12:13
Speaker
th It's got it all. It's got it all in here. It really has. yeah So then we meet the water guy. Yeah, Lothar Peel. Lothar Peel. That's a great name. It's a good name. so he's I love Again, he's got this, and and it sort of, again, feeds into this power balance thing, the way he speaks. He speaks a bit like the mayor's majordomo. He says, like, I'm insulted on your behalf. yeah And all this being pseudo polite to each other. yeah in a really weird way. Is it kind of a mafia thing? Is there a bit of that vibe? Yeah, potentially. yeah It feels a bit like that.
00:12:47
Speaker
yeah But he's got a problem with a mod gang. Yeah, he really has. Who are essentially teenagers. Yeah, and don't want to pay his extortionate prices. Thank you very much. Yeah, yeah. Incredible. Yeah. Do we go and meet them? We do. Do we go and meet the
The Mod Gang and Cultural Influences
00:13:00
Speaker
kids? Yeah, we do. Very, very quickly he goes, all right, I'll come and see what's going on. Let's go meet these people. And we go off to meet the mod gang. I've called them cyber brick kids. Cyber brick kids. Yeah, that fits. Yeah, I did write down cyber cockney originally because we hear Scad, oh yeah who's like the guy, one of the leaders, the guy one. Yeah.
00:13:19
Speaker
And he is definitely like East End of London. Yeah. But then Drash, which is Sophie Thatcher's character spoken, she's a bit more yeah private school. Private school educated. Private school cool kid. Yeah, yeah.
00:13:32
Speaker
and So anybody in the US, we're talking about the nuance between British accents.
00:13:39
Speaker
They represent various different aspects of the British youth yes in their diversity. ah They're quite respectful to Boba. Yeah, they're not bad. She calls him Mighty Daimyo at one point. I thought she was taking the piss, though, to be fair. don't know. It felt... Maybe. Maybe. I took it as genuine, but you might be right. I'd probably just... I took it as her being, she's very much like, there is no work here, mighty Daimyo. What do you want us to do? Okay, yeah. Yeah, I guess. So she's a bit like, yeah come on. Yeah, fair play. Come on.
00:14:09
Speaker
But they were quite polite. They didn't like yeah trying to attack him or run away or anything like that. And he gives them a compliment. He says, you've got guts. Yeah. He says, you you better fight as good as you talk dank. I had that written down as well. We're beginning to find out what dank actually is. We don't really know, but we can possibly... can possibly work it out. It's the English equivalent.
00:14:30
Speaker
If we find out he's been charging them 1,300 credits or something, yeah like a ridiculous amount of money. So much money for water. Yeah. One of them says it's a month's wages for a week's worth of water. Yeah, yeah that's pretty hardcore. Which is great. Sounds familiar. Yeah. Yeah. It's another Star Wars parallel that's become all real in the day.
00:14:51
Speaker
I also had a note here that there seems to be club nights. Yeah. There's a banging club anthem going on behind this pretty cool. They're just hanging out on their multicolored Vespers. hey Yeah. He kind of employs them. Straight away, yeah. Boba's now got a gang of... Let's have a job....of mods.
00:15:08
Speaker
I'd forgotten that they were called mods. They are called mods. But I love the mods. They're called mods, yeah. The dual version of mods. I don't know if US listeners or even anybody outside of the UK would know about mods. Would have mods, yeah. Like mods in the late 50s, I think, and 60s in the UK. They listen to music that could be referred to as hip, like quite uptempo, British beat kind of stuff. yeah It kind of evolved in the 70s to bands like The Who. They kind of became mod icons. Yeah.
00:15:37
Speaker
And the mods drove these Vespa things. Brightly coloured Vespas. They've got like the extra mirrors on either side, which the mods in the UK used to add mirrors onto to their little Vespas. But also so it's obviously a play on the cyber motivations. Yeah. Just, I love it. So they are mods. It's great. I love them. They are fab. I love their Vespas as well. I've always wanted one and never got one. I could see myself cosplaying as a mod. As a mod. If I was going to cosplay.
00:16:04
Speaker
I've always wondered what it would be if I ever did, but i feel like I could do that, yeah. Interesting. After the credits, we have... We've got creature shot! We have got an Inception creature shot. A multi-creature shot. It's amazing. I kind of grinned. I'd forgotten it was there, to be honest, because it's been long since I watched it. grinned when I saw the little scurrier. I think my mum shouted, oh, look, there's one of those creatures because she loves them. And then a bird took it. yeah And then and then if the frog took it.
00:16:40
Speaker
And we have to have this. It's only a little one this week. It's time already. like it. Yeah, where with we're peaking early. right at the beginning. i love it. It's time for West End Geek Girls. Yay. I've got to be about the frog. I mean, there are various things. I think last week, I don't know if i actually said, but I had intended to just deal with the various alien races in each of our Book of Boba Fett episodes yeah because there are three or four main species of aliens and have been a really good time to deal with all of those because all of those got named by the role-playing game. Sure. But when I saw this little establishing shot, was like, no, we've been tracking establishing shots. This is peak establishing shot moment. Excellent. And I also thought, I bet the role-playing game gave that little frog thing and a name because it was in Return the Jedi. Yeah. So I went on a deep dive. You've seen it before. I found out was called a wart, a W-O-R-R-T. Okay. So wart with two R's, which I initially thought maybe that was named recently, but then I went back and back and back and back. And I think the first naming of it was in 1990 in the Return of the Jedi source book that came out then. Right. And all it says is if you approach the castle during the night, talking about Jabba's Callous, obviously, yeah you may have the misfortune to meet the wart a repulsive toad-like creature with a lightning-fast tongue. The wart cannot harm human-sized visitors, though jowers have been known to disappear mysteriously when wandering around the council.
00:18:07
Speaker
I could see a wart taking a jower, maybe. Yeah, maybe. prettytan But the wart is too stupid to realise this, and it still attacks anything it means. but okay If it attacks you, you'd better simply endure its disgusting, sticky, drooling caress. nice Woe betide the fool who dares strike Jabba's little friend. It's another then example of Jabba keeping things around. Keeping things as pets and keeping things around. For amusement, yeah.
00:18:34
Speaker
Sounds slimy and I like it. Yeah. but Oh, well, that was exciting. So much has happened and we've only just got past the first credits. This is the credits. Well, we're back in the Bacta tank, which means... Flashback. Flashback. Flashback. I got a bit confused here as to when we were in Flashback. Did you? Because I think as we're drawing nearer to present day in the flashbacks, that's why I got a bit confused. Oh, okay. When he was with the Tuscans and Fennec wasn't around and everything, it was all like easier to distinguish. Okay. Yeah. Well, we've got some more Camino first. We get a lash of Camino before we get him in his Tuscan gear and on his own bantha. Yeah, he's heading off,
Boba Fett's Emotional Journey
00:19:13
Speaker
isn't he? Into a beautiful, beautiful journey. Is he going to Mos Eisley? Yeah, I think it's Mos Eisley. And he has this amazing score behind him. Oh,
00:19:20
Speaker
With the male voice choir, like unison. So large. Yeah. So good. yeah Yeah. Incredible. Yeah. The reason we know it's Mos Eisley is because we see Pelley taking her pit droids for a walk in the background. It's really easy to miss. I did not spot that. There's sort of an overhead shot. I don't if it's like of him on the bantha walking through the streets or something. And she's just in the background and the three pit droids are marching in single file behind her. It's so cute. Yeah.
00:19:47
Speaker
Incredible. I had a note here because he's off to see the Pikes, isn't he? Yes, that's right. Yeah. And he's there to collect money on behalf of the Tuskens. Yeah. Protection racket. Which is like, what? What's going on? I had a note that he's crime bossing before he's even a crime boss at this point. He is, yeah. He's like, ah this is the thing. He sort of learned his role via the Tuskens, which is really interesting because the Tuskens are very detached generally from And I can't get how the pikes, because it felt like in the train episode, the pikes were just doing whatever they wanted yeah in terms of the Tuscans. So why would the Tuscans expect money from them? I don't know. Well, it was because of the him stopping the train. He stopped the train and he said, you're not going to pass through here without, you're under our protection now. Of course. But this isn't happening again. See, this happens again and again on this podcast. You explain things to me and I appreciate that. Because i was. I was like, what's going on
00:20:41
Speaker
Why would they respect the Tuskans? You'd have to pay them. Oh, of course, because the Tuskans wiped them out. Yeah. And sent them back with black melons. Yeah. um yeah I thought that the head pike sounded like Liam Neeson. Oh. Whether it's because my head was in Qui-Gon on Tatooine mode. Yeah, yeah.
00:20:59
Speaker
I'm not sure wasn't Liam Neeson at all. Maybe he was an Irish actor, maybe, don't know. don't know, I didn't look him up. He's just hanging out. another case of those crime lords who just like sit in their same chair all the time with two guards. They don't really seem to be doing much, they? They just hang out. These crime lords. Constant state of meditation. But yeah, he complains that he's been paying the Kinton Striders and that he's not going to pay twice, which is fair enough really. Yeah. Yeah, makes sense. Although the Kinton Striders obviously have done nothing to protect their train and the Tuscans were able to take it with the help of Boba, but still. And the Kinton Striders are now also going to be on borrowed time, clearly. Yeah, of course. Except... Yeah, this...
00:21:39
Speaker
ah I found this really upsetting. Yeah, it was. I found the whole sequence really, really upsetting. And i'm like I found the sequence where we see Murder of Tuskens before really upsetting. Yeah. But this time, because we've got to know this tribe as well, it's just like... Yeah, yeah. It was horrible. My heart. I couldn't take it. I heard Children of the Watch talking about this episode the other day because they're doing a rewatch too. And they were a bit annoyed that the Tuscans had sort been set up in these first few episodes and it would have been great for them to still been around the finale. And I kind of get that. They did invest a lot of time in the first two episodes. With tuscan To build this Tuscan law and all of that.
00:22:20
Speaker
But at the end of the day, I feel like all of that is for Boba's benefit. Yeah. Is to develop him as a character. And if that hadn't happened, we wouldn't have had Boba going to take over Jabba's palace. That's quite interesting as well, though, because there is some significant dialogue in the finale that tells us what really happened to the Tuscans. Right. Okay, that's a interesting. Spoiler! Yeah. ok But also, the Tuscans couldn't have survived. Yeah. Because even in the next episode, I'm jumping ahead slightly, there's some foreshadowing about it because Fennec said biker gangs taking out Tuscans is highly unlikely. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So. Fair enough.
00:22:58
Speaker
No, the Tuscans had to go yeah because it's yeah partly about him, but partly that sets up the finale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, yeah. Fair enough. But none of this takes away from the fact that it is brutal. It was heartbreaking. Absolutely brutal. Really, really grim. Incredible music. Yeah, i was going to say the choir s thing. It goes quite Gregorian. Yes. And very religious sounding as he's burning the bodies. and oof Yeah. It's a lot. The Tuscans get a really, they've had a really rough time. Really rough time. Yeah, I hope they get some comeuppance in future Star Wars at some point. He has a bit of a rude awakening. does.
00:23:36
Speaker
Just a little bit. Ripped out of the pacta tank.
Black Chrysantan's Attack
00:23:39
Speaker
This is brutal. Black Kassantan is wild on every level. He's going for it. He is. He's showing us his true gladiator. I love his electricity knuckle duster things. Yeah. My note on this was there is absolutely no time to feel the weight of all of this. yeah It's completely juxtaposed with this. He's pulled out of it. Yeah. We're now battling. We're pulled out of it. We're battling. Yeah. And again, we've got the cartoony hits, the sound design of that. Yeah.
00:24:06
Speaker
yeah It's all big and over the top and cartoony again. It's quite, and the animation almost of, I was watching Boba being thrown across the room and you could sort of obviously look for the cuts where, you know, it's Tamara again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's bit computer gamey as well, maybe. I don't know, there's something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It got me thinking yeah because do we know the destiny of Black Krasanth? And yeah, I don't think so. I think he's still around, isn't he? the end Boba.
00:24:32
Speaker
Yes, he is still around at the end of Boba. Because in The Mandalorian and Grogu, one of the few things we really know about this film is that there's a sort of a gladiator sequence oh with Jeremy Allen White from The Bear playing Stinky. Yeah. AKA Rota the Hutt, who's Jabba's son, I think it is. ok We're going to meet Stinky in our Clone Wars rewatch. In fact, I think it's in the Clone Wars movie, so it's the first thing that we're going to watch. Right, the first thing we're going to see. ok and So if there's a Gladiator sequence and we've got this Black Kassamson link, is he going to be in the film? I would absolutely love to see him again. Yeah, yeah.
00:25:12
Speaker
Fennec takes too long to get there, so yes everybody else does first, including... We'll get the mods in there. The mods get in there. And do a pretty good job considering that they're just yeah relatively untrained kids yeah against a vicious gladiator. A gladiator, yeah.
00:25:28
Speaker
Who is massive. Yeah, he is huge. Absolutely huge. huge. I love him. but i really want him to stick around and be more. Yeah, yeah. I love him in the comics. I love he's got relationship with Dr. Aphra, who, again, would be nice if she popped up in The Mandalorian and Grogu. Oh, yeah.
00:25:43
Speaker
as a comic book character that is fairly well beloved yeah okay among the fandom. More people. A queer female Star Wars character from the comics that we need in live action, please. Into live action as well. Thank you. yeah Eventually, I think Fennec does sort of save the day.
00:26:03
Speaker
Yeah. She opens up the Rancor pit and locks him in. Yeah, so chucks a throwing dagger at his hand. which is Yeah, yeah, so he can't cling on anymore. yeah So then he's in the Rancor pit. They've got him in the dungeon. Yeah, they put a Gromorian in the Bacta tank, which I thought was quite nice. It shows his respect for his staff, that he's prepared to share the Bacta.
00:26:24
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Get in the Bacta tank. Yeah. And then they have a bit of a meal. Of course, Chrysanthemum survives because that's an incredible line from the end of the finale. Okay, cool. Is I owe you a soak in my back to tank. Oh, yes. Oh, wow. I'd forgotten that one.
00:26:41
Speaker
Oh, imagine a Wookiee in the backstack. I can't. yeah Excellent. The twins are back. Yes. And I don't quite know where they're coming from. They seem to be, it's this thing of like, where are they staying? Like what's going
The Rancor Gift and Danny Trejo
00:27:00
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on? Yeah. It's this thing of people not saying what they really mean. Or the layers of I'm not that very good at the subtlety of the criminal underworld. There's all this like saying one thing and meaning another. sure. Which is very criminal underworld. Yeah. So I'm not quite sure what they're being honest about whatever.
00:27:19
Speaker
They say they feel bad for sending Kasuntan after Boba. Yeah, but they literally just did it. Yeah. I don't know. Is this like days later? What's happening? don't think it's very long. It's the same day because I'm sure they're having this meal and then the twins turn up. Oh, yeah, the twins just turn up. And they brought gift to make up for it, which is even more surreal. And it's not just any old gift. It's a full-size rancor. It is. So Rancor. Yeah. Incredible.
00:27:43
Speaker
We in the Bad Batch do get a baby Rancor in one of the Bad Batch episodes. And I'm dying for a tie-in with... Apparently this one's a baby Rancor. Oh yeah, a calf, isn't it? Yeah. Because yeah Danny Trejo is the Rancor Keeper who's... ah Yes, incredible....an amazing Star Wars edition. I didn't realise this. He's Robert Rodriguez's cousin. Oh. Which explains why he's in quite a lot of Robert Rodriguez's work. Okay. That makes sense. But I mean, he's in loads of other stuff anyway. he's not just in. my My note was Machete is now a Rancor caretaker. It doesn't get more perfect. And he's really good as our Rancor keeper as well. He's really, yeah like, he loves the creature. He's really sweet. Yeah. He's full of information and he's not afraid to give it to Boba. You know, he respects Boba as well. and Yeah. love it. Love him. Yeah. He's great.
00:28:36
Speaker
He's going to teach him how to ride a Rancor. Yeah. Good. Yeah. I kind of enjoyed this little interaction and seeing Boba bond with it. Yeah. We get a little Easter egg of the witches the Rancor Keeper says it's said that the Witches of Dathomir even rode them through forests and fens.
00:28:53
Speaker
So we now have Witches of Dathomir in the current canon, the Disney canon. And they came through Dathomir. Then they're in Rebels a bit as well. They're in all sorts of places across Star Wars now. okay But originally, they were first mentioned in a very early novel in the expanded universe back in the 90s called The Courtship of Princess Leia, which is where Han and Leia, I think they get married even, okay on the planet Dathomir, which looks nothing like the Dathomir that we now know. Okay. And I can't remember, it's been like 30 something years since I read the book. sure
00:29:30
Speaker
So I can't remember what the witches were like, even if they were even in it, but I'm guessing they were nothing like the witches now. But it's nice to think that
Chase Scene and Star Wars Homages
00:29:39
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the, because in that book, the witches did ride the Rancor. Oh, okay. So that's been brought in. don't know that we've seen them riding Rancors in the new Disney camera. Maybe we have. We'll find out when we watch Clone Wars, I think. Interesting. Yeah.
00:29:54
Speaker
nicer Nice little Easter egg there. Yeah. There's a few point of view shots of the Rancor, which um we've had a few point of view shots lately, which is quite an interesting thing for Star Wars. And I don't feel like we had point of view shots. Previously. Until quite recently. Yeah. But and to have a point of view shot of the Rancor itself when the blindfold comes off. Yeah. he's got slightly double vision. Yeah, and he's looking at Boba, yeah. And then he kind of settles on him. I don't know if he's like bonding with Boba. that works. Yeah, well, he says that he's imprinting. Right. He'll imprint on the first human he sees, which is why he's got his blindfolds on to start with. Yeah. Because they obviously want him to imprint on Boba. They've kept a blindfold on that rankle for a long and time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah
00:30:32
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Boba says to feed him with a full Ronto carcass, which yes Rontos are those big, in like the special edition of A New Hope. And we see Luke and Obi-Wan flying into Mos Eisley on the Landspeeder. there's that massive like dinosaur type creature. oh I think there's a couple of Jawas riding it.
00:30:51
Speaker
They're swinging around it. Yeah, this is a very tall, very high thing. it's like four meters tall. Oh, okay. And if you go Galaxy's Edge in Disney World, yeah you can buy Ronto burgers in the restaurant. I've never been. like I've not been to Disney World or Disneyland, so I certainly haven't had a chance to go to Galaxy's Edge. But one day, absolutely absolutely not if it's ever safe for me to travel to the US again, am going to go and Ronto burger because... I'm down. Fair enough. Rontos are one of those things, a bit like Bantha blue milk, that yeah even though ostensibly they're like fairly restricted in the planets they live on, apparently their produce is all over the galaxy. Yeah, yeah. Everyone drinks blue milk and everyone eats Ronto burgers. Yeah, yeah.
00:31:38
Speaker
They head off to the mayor's office. Straight off to the mayor's. This yeah conversation with the very cowardly. He's so annoying. He is really irritating, isn't he? I love him.
00:31:49
Speaker
He's kind of like, I love him in the same way as I love Taro Calican in the Mando episode on tattooing. Okay. That annoying wannabe bounty hunter. Yeah, they're just great Star Wars characters that are just annoying but have a role to play. I had absolutely no time for the other guy. You had far more time for him than I did. I was watching, there's like a receptionist guy at the mayor's office. at the mayor's office I think he's got a beard, maybe not. I remember him in the episode a couple of episodes ago and just, it feels like he doesn't have any time for this guy either, the major doer. No, not all. I mean, if that was your boss, it would be... It'd be a pain. Yeah. And again, it speaks to like this, how is this power balance working? What is going on? yeah Yeah. When you've got all these awful people. And the mayor's not very effective either, really, is he? Yeah. I think he just relies on his like lackeys to, you get that feeling. Again, he's another one of these leaders that just sits there on his comfy chair all day and yeah i says yes or no to things. Yeah, sure. Sure. But it all leads to the major demo sneaking out the back.
Vespas and British Mod Culture
00:32:52
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Incredible scenes. Yeah. It's very, very rebels. I know when this came out, one of the the biggest complaints in the the fan base was that this was too slow. sure Okay. and I get that Lucas, if he had been directing, and would have said his classic, faster, more intense, which is what he always says. Yeah. And I kind of see that. But these are the streets. How fast can a Vesper go? Especially in Mos Espa where you're going around corners. Yeah. And yeah, I definitely relate it to Rebels.
00:33:21
Speaker
In the very first episode of Rebels, we get scenes like this in Lothal, Space Port, which is where a lot of Rebels is based. I've actually seen that episode and I remember what you're talking about. What? Yeah, and there's a sort of another little Easter egg connected to that. So I think it's very conscious. At the very end of this race, the Majordomo crashes into classic car chase. Classic. Classic. Classic, classic fruit market thing. Yeah, it's not melons. These are meluran.
00:33:50
Speaker
Okay. And the very first episode of Rebels is a chase for the same fruit. I think Ezra steals one or something. Steals one. Yes, he does. He steals one and they chase him. The rebels are trying to steal it.
00:34:04
Speaker
loads of it to like redistribute to different people in the way that the rebels are doing that a bit Robin Hood-ish so I feel like the fact that he crashed into a whole barrel load of them at the end bit of a homage it was sort of saying yes this did look like the rebels chase from episode one of rebels yeah also there's lovely little Vesper crashing through a painting yeah Jabba the Hutt yeah so good Loved it.
00:34:30
Speaker
Again, very Rebels. It made me laugh. I thought it was great. yeah and And there's an Arlon rickshaw droid. I had to look up that it was called an Arlon rickshaw Which we saw in Attack of the Clones. There's Padme and Anakin Go on one. yeah But it's just carrying these two Bith, which may be ex-members of Figrin Dan and the Modal Nodes who are annoyed because Figrin Dan is now moonlighting with Max Rebo at the Sanctuary. Yeah.
00:34:55
Speaker
Busy over there. Yeah. There's also a swearing protocol droid. I didn't notice that. They almost run him over. oh And he says, he does a classic Star Wars swear. Can't remember what it is now, but it is one that I've definitely heard before. Amazing. There's a lot happening very quickly. so anybody who says this a slow chase is wrong. because we've just proved there's so many little encounters. There's a lot going on. c yeah yeah The kids are using their like, so I keep going on kids, they're not really kids, they're mods and they're using their cyber gadgets.
00:35:23
Speaker
It yes reminds me of cheating in pod racing. Yeah, yeah. like sebulba's antics and it also reminded me of in the film greece when danny is racing is he racing the drag race yeah yeah in the cars and they've got like the little blade things that come out of the wheels yeah the come out the wheels and it all gets really stupid same kind of antics the same kind of vibe yeah I feel like if they had made that chase any faster, then it would feel too much like pod racing. And the whole point of pod racing is it's the fastest thing. yeah So like, that makes sense. I think, yeah, there needs to be some differentiation between yeah speeds of stuff on Tatooine. Yeah. or Otherwise, it would all just be pod racing. And we've already found out that that's the fastest, most dangerous thing that you can do. This is true. And Majordomo would not have a very high role on his repulsor lift operation.
00:36:13
Speaker
so so And anybody, as you mentioned earlier, Vespers are not fast vehicles. No, they're not. I definitely think these are something that didn't export to the US. So okay again, listeners are anywhere else. Vespers are like great motor scooters. They're kind of very low power engine.
00:36:31
Speaker
They're halfway between a pedal bike and a motorbike, aren't they? They're like... Yeah, they're really, really not powerful things. Yeah. We call them hair dryers over here quite often. but Hair dryers might have more... Horsepower. and More power. yeah The newer ones do. I loved the shot of Drash. You see side swipes as she stops when yeah he crashes. It's a really lush shot I remember it being in the trailer. It's good shot. remember being very excited about it and wanting to be her and wanting to have a Vesper and cybernetic stuff going on. yeah Excellent.
00:37:04
Speaker
Yeah, she's fab. We love her. Meanwhile, SCAD, the Cockney one, is at the airport watching pikes arriving on a transport. Now, I'm surprised they don't have their own transport because yeah they're not poor. They run spice. But maybe they're trying to arrive a bit undercover. they're trying to be a little bit on the down low. Yeah, not drawing attention. least tiny bit on the down low.
00:37:27
Speaker
But it looks like that's what we're dealing with. It looks like this is what the big bad is, kind of. Great episode. I loved it. It is a great episode. I enjoyed it. Yeah. I love Black Cassandre. I love yeah Vespers. yeah I love Rancors. I love great Danny Trejo. am here for all of it.
00:37:47
Speaker
All of it. All of it was great. Thank you very much. So The Gathering Storm was directed by Keith Tancharon. Okay. I wasn't familiar with his name. He has directed a lot of TV, including some superhero stuff like okay Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., which I've watched all of. I think he directed like 19 episodes of that or something. So I've watched quite a bit of his directing stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But originally he was a dancer choreographer. Oh, interesting. And he worked with Madonna as a choreographer, I think. Okay. Choreographed some videos for her and possibly for Britney Spears as well. Interesting. Really interesting. Like how he's ended up directing a Star Wars TV episode. Yeah, yeah. I was trying to think, are there any dance things in this episode?
00:38:34
Speaker
Not directly, but whether there is anything that you could imagine a choreographer
Cyber Enhancements and Implications
00:38:38
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doing. I don't know, the kind of fight scenes in Jarvis Palace, maybe. There's some great little fight scenes in this one, but there's also just so much going on. Yeah. Because we're flashing back and forward. Yeah. It almost feels like two episodes in one for me, this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:56
Speaker
And it's so close. we quite a long flashback, yeah, that's really, really quite close to where we are. And then we get present day. Yeah, it's just one flashback yeah that brings us to present day. yeah And then although we've had some other present day in the last three episodes, we're now kind of picking up almost from present day. Yeah. Yeah, it's a very small jump between the two different time periods, that's for sure. There's a really brutal depiction of the harshness of Tatooine with a banter walking past the skeleton of a banter. Yeah. I found that pretty yeah intense. That was a lot, yeah. We've seen other skeletons in the dunes, you know. It just felt a bit on the nose to have this one. Yeah, to have an actual banter.
00:39:37
Speaker
Especially he seems to be very kind to his panther, Boba Fett. He does seem to be kind to his panther. He's a lot of affection, which he's obviously learned from the Tuscans and their toothbrushing and all of that stuff. Yeah, yeah. I forgot about the toothbrushing. Oh, my God.
00:39:53
Speaker
So good. He's very kind her. He's very kind to And talks to her a lot. But he didn't direct it a little bit away from the skeleton that was lying there for all to see. A similar thing with like Mando and Grogu. He doesn't exactly protect him from harsh and violence in any way, does he?
00:40:08
Speaker
So it turns out there's a lot of guards around Jabba's palace. Yes. And they're Niktoes. I thought they were Weequays for a minute because we've seen Weequays. Weekies? Weequays? Weequays? never sure how you pronounce that. We've seen them working for Jabba before, but these are definitely Niktoes, which are the same species that kidnapped Grogu originally or had Grogu. Okay.
00:40:28
Speaker
So they do get about a bit, of these nectos. They are a prolific kind of race that's involved in the criminal underworld a lot. Okay. Across all different time periods as well. I've just been listening to star Wars Bloodline, which is a novel that is set not far before The Force Awakens. And it follows Princess Leia, or she's General Leia at that point, I guess. yeah And she's still in the Senate.
00:40:51
Speaker
And there's a whole sequence involving Nikto kind of crime family. Interesting. Which is quite interesting. okay It's a good book. Claudia Gray. She's amazing. And Children of the Watch, if you listen to Children the Watch, get on their Patreon because there's a book club and that's why I'm listening to it. I've been getting into the you on the book club Patreon book club. It's really awesome. I love book clubs. I love Star Wars book clubs more than any other book club. I've got a smutty book club, but we're not going to talk about it. okay.
00:41:21
Speaker
You don't even know what I'm reading. I dread to think, but you can tell me about it after we finish recording. Okay, I'll tell you later. My mum pointed out that he cooks a scurrier. Yeah.
00:41:32
Speaker
I didn't know that the Banthas ate meat. No, you kind of would imagine them as being herbivores. They do refer to people as Bantha fodder as well. so Yeah, that's true. So maybe it is just a thing. Well, i don't know, you see, because I feel like the word Pudu in Hatties has been translated in in Return the Jedi is translated as Bantha fodder. Interesting. When he's talking to Han. Yeah. When Jabba's talking to Han. Yeah. But in Phantom Menace... Yeah. Yeah. Sobulba shouts Poodoo when he crashes his podracer. Yeah, I thought it was just him swearing. Yeah, to me he's saying s***. Yeah. Which would make more sense if Jabba would be calling him Bantha Poo. Yeah, yeah. And Poodoo. But then the subtitles said Bantha Vodder, but then maybe they couldn't write subtitles that said Bantha excrement. I don't know. yeah, yeah. I'll have to look in my Ben Burt's Guide to Hutties and see. Yeah, look it up. Yeah, find out. Look it up. What it is. See if it's in there.
00:42:29
Speaker
I love the banther. We know that I love banthers and I love that we get lots of time with this particular banther. She seems great. And that's so nice to him. Her. It's her, isn't it? Her. Yeah. Old girl, he calls her. He tells her to go off and have banther babies. Yes. Oh my gosh.
00:42:45
Speaker
Go off and find other banthers have banther babies. So funny. but But then we're straight into Fennec backstory. Yeah, I loved seeing the flares in the distance and feeling like, oh, wow, we know what that is. We know where we are. Yeah, that was so cool. We're the other side of it. Like a parallel timeline. I love that. Yeah, lower yeah like a parallel timeline. But he quite quickly finds her and takes her off to the mod shop which what is going on with that music when they're outside it's so cool i did have that as my favorite musical cue did you until what the kind of virtuosic synth drone link there's there's three stages to it yeah it's like the first which we hear from outside which is my favorite version of it yeah that was great and then as soon as we go in it gets much darker yes And more minimal and more bassy. Yeah.
00:43:36
Speaker
And then during the montage of him doing the mod, it turns a bit more big beat. Yeah. Kind of like 90s big beat, but space synths and yeah stuff. I mean, I loved, I was here for all of it. because So good. We've had so many different iterations of what is contemporary music in Star Wars. And I've never been 100% in on all of them. But this one I am 100% in on. This one, yeah, we're here. And I don't know if it's because Thundercat is playing the mod guy. Thundercat, he was in Suicidal Tendencies, I think in the 90s or the early 2000s. Okay. Which are like a kind of metal band. Yeah. But then more recently he's been like known for sort of like funk and soul, contemporary R&B type stuff. Yeah, sure. So he's definitely a musician. His background is music. He's a bass player and producing I don't know if he always has different colour braids, but he's got very distinctive yellow braids in this one. So whether he had any any input on the music for the Mod Parlour. The music is great. so It's so cool. As ass is the montage. Yeah. I mean, it's another montage, of course. It's a montage. But the detail, we get to see, like we don't get to see anything gruesome, which I was very relieved about. yeah and We saw all of the tools. Yeah. He's kind of like spinning blades and all of that stuff. yeah
00:44:47
Speaker
And I love the bit where he's connecting wires yeah like fixing bits of metal in. And we see all of that in a lot of detail. He's hot wiring her. Yeah. In a really odd way. Amazing. Like his craftsmanship is really, really cool.
00:45:00
Speaker
The whole montage was quite stylish. They use crossfades between bits, but quite quick ones. And yeah yeah it was really unusual. I've not seen anything like that. in star wars i don't think normally the montages it's either a very slow crossfade or a cut but these were like quite quick i guess it's not a big period of time no he's working quickly he's working fast but it is time passing isn't it yeah i suppose in the same way as if you were getting tattooed yeah yeah you want montage of that rather than totally yeah sitting for the whole the closest thing is like a tattoo type thing isn't it's like body modification or piercings yeah yeah i guess although piercings are over in a second Yeah, true. Blinkin, you missed it. Hopefully, anyway. Otherwise, it hasn't gone well. Yeah. I wonder how long it is before we get mod parlours.
00:45:46
Speaker
Is that too dark of a thought? I don't know. oh I you know. I we are probably almost there with tech. I feel like there's tech bros kind of trying it already, isn't there? Yeah. Tech bros are doing stuff like that. I think that would freak me out way too much. I mean, I'm fairly modded as a person in terms of hair sinks and tattoos and stuff, but yeah I think I'd draw a line at electronics in me.
00:46:06
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know. it depends what it was. I guess if it was for like... Too much of a hippie kid at heart. Yeah. I'd be too mistrustful of that. It's true. like there is i think I wouldn't want to rely on it like Fennec is relying on that. like If that fails, she's gone. rose She's dead, yeah. if his name scad like If his eye thing breaks down, well, could probably get it fixed. He's not going to die overnight. He's not going to die. Yeah, that's a good point, actually.
00:46:31
Speaker
What's the difference? There's one that's happening as he brings her in. There's some kind of weird chip going in onto someone's back. Yeah. And that's very much like a tattoo. She's sat in a tattoo chair having this thing welded to her back. And it's like, okay, yeah, I've been there, seen this a hundred times. But I did wonder what that was. Yeah, yeah. What was? What is it? What was she having done? Yeah. What's that doing? Super interesting. Okay, listeners, A, would you have a mod or not? Maybe I'll do a poll.
00:46:56
Speaker
And if you did, what would you get modded? What would it be? What would you get modded and why and how? Yeah, and you're saying no and I'm saying potentially. I'm saying no. I don't, yeah, I don't know. Unless it was something that could make my tattoos glow or something, that'd be pretty cool, wouldn't it? Yeah, like a little kind of inside light or something. Backlight them. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Fancy. Oh no, that's freaked me out. I don't know. I think I'd like, if there's anything hearing-wise, because as a music lover, there might be something where you could hear like a different frequency range or something. you could hear, I don't know.
00:47:31
Speaker
Anyway, interesting. Interesting. But then then that makes me think cochlear implants kind of stuff. Yeah, we're already we're already there. But that goes back to my original point of when do we start? When is capitalism going to bring to people? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. No one can afford anything at the moment, let alone...
00:47:54
Speaker
Actually, that's not true. yeah my My circle can't afford anything at the moment. I'm sure there are circles that can. We're not going to talk about that. Yeah, hopefully hopefully this isn't going to be forever. Yeah. So he takes Fennec back yes to the place where she was shot, presumably to just soften the blow of her waking up. Yeah. And gives her a lovely black melon to drink. Yeah.
00:48:22
Speaker
Great. Not very nice. And then they pretty much instantly start to make a bit of a plan, don't they? They do, yeah. She's instantly kind of like, all right then, yeah go on then, what are doing? Yeah. We find out that the ship is now called the Fire Spray. i think that's the intention there to replace the old name, which we talked about the other week, I think.
00:48:39
Speaker
Did we about that? Maybe not. Maybe I was talking to somebody else. don't think we did. Oh, I was talking to Ketlan, who is a friend of the pod who was around my house the other day. were talking about it and like, has the new name stuck? And I sort of feel like it probably hasn't.
00:48:53
Speaker
that people are still calling it its original name. But seeing this reminded me of when we found that out. And I do quite like this name, especially as later on, it actually, it literally sprays fire on the Kintar Striders. Sure, yeah. The Kintan Striders. So it works. It works as a name. I loved seeing Fennec's scope through her scope. The little ball thing. The little ball thing as well. No, I mean her gun scope. Her gun, yes. Like her sniper rifle and she uses that to see through, which is what Mando does as well quite Yeah, yeah. And in fact, Boba was doing it in the last episode. Yes. But hers has got like fancy red writing and the look it like... Yeah, she's got all sorts of stuff. The GUI on it is really cool. And then when she gets the little floaty drone thing out... Yeah, yeah. It has the same, it's made by the same company or like modded in the same way. It's got the same red text and I love her unification. My little question about that was, do we know what that is, her little ball? I think it's just a drone, literally a drone. It's a little drone. It reminds me of Darth Maul's on Tatooine. Yeah, yeah, the probe droids. Does he call them probe droids? He does, doesn't he? I think so, yeah. I guess she would probably call this a probe droid. Yeah.
00:50:01
Speaker
But really, it's just a drone with a camera built into it isn't it? Yeah. But it knows to hide from things. It's quite clever. Yeah. Is it AI then? It's, I guess, and a drone droid? something like that okay It's really cool. And then we're off a ship heist. Yes. yeah I love this. Oh, that's where we got to find other Banthers, make baby Banthers line. Yes. Although she doesn't seem to want to go. No, he throws some meat for her to send her off. Yeah.
Sarlacc Pit Encounter
00:50:27
Speaker
Fennec dropped this line saying you want to head a Gotra, which ties back to the episode that we recorded with my mum. Yes. Where we mentioned the droid Gotra. Yeah. So it seems to be a Star Wars term. I just don't know if it's a real real world term or not. Anyway.
00:50:41
Speaker
Interesting. She says that he he's changed, as he says. And this episode is all about his change. I think we see so much of that. Yeah. So yeah, we're into the heist. We're going in through the kitchens. Yeah. She's cutting through bars. she then cuts through the kitchen droid's neck. Yes. It's hilarious. I love the chef droid. It was so cool for a second with all those spinning knives and then gone instantly. And the other droid that's in there, the one that says they'll go and get the rat catchers, that?
00:51:08
Speaker
Eve 99. Yeah. It is Eve 99. Yeah, I thought it was. Jabba's old droid boss, yeah which in the subtitles, it describes her as the sous chef, which I don't think that Eve 99 would like put up with that. No. She's a little bit more than a sous chef. don't think she's a sous chef. Maybe she is, like, after the downfall of Jabba, under Bib Fortuna, maybe Bib Fortuna kept her in there. Because I have a feeling in the From a Certain Point of View book, it was suggested that she wanted to stop having memory wipes. She learned from R2 and 3PO that to stop having memory wipes means that you can develop a personality. yeah And she wanted that. So maybe she's still struggling with that and hasn't done it yet. And she hasn't noticed that Bib Fortuna has just, like, reassigned her to kitchen sous chef. Yeah.
00:51:51
Speaker
Yeah. Aw. Anyway, she's... What a shame. But we don't see what happens to her, but presumably she is fine because she crops up again Amanda. Yeah, yeah. There's this other little tiny droid, which is called an LEP server. LEP droid? Yeah. What is that? It's from the Clone Wars. What is its purpose? It's just a server kind of assistant, multi-purpose. Right. see. I get the feeling it's from the same sort of family of droids as Boba's dresser when he gets out of the Bacta tank. You know, there's that... Okay, sure. Droid on a wheel. yeah Potentially as pit droids as well. They just assist in whatever needs doing. i did ah My note was, what is its purpose other than being quite cute? It's basically cute.
00:52:29
Speaker
But yeah, I think they just get yeah they're sort of servants, I guess. right You know, we see R2 serving drinks on the sail barge. I get the feeling that usually instead of an an elaborate astromech doing that... You'd have one of these guys. They'd have server, yeah.
00:52:43
Speaker
Sure. That makes sense. So they get in. Yeah. They get to the ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They get to the hangar. We get Boba's theme. It's like an upgrade to Boba's theme because now he's been reunited with the ship, which I love. Yeah, yeah. Did you notice the six-footed gonk droid? Yes, that is actually quite explosive. Yeah, it didn't last long.
00:53:02
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But we did hear a gonk quite clearly quite a few times, which I like. I always love a gonk. I need to get a gonk for the soundboard so that we can have a gonk every time we want. Definitely, that's what we need. They're incredibly explosive because she uses it to blow up a fair few guards. Yeah, Fennec in this fight is incredible. She does she's great some amazing manoeuvres. You can tell my notes I was getting a bit confused by this point because they just get slightly unhinged. I love her decision to go with him. Yeah. And the way that conversation is really nice. I'll go for the ride. Yeah. I'm off. I'm coming with you. Does she say next time we stick to the plan and she says next time? Or vice versa? She says next time we stick to the plan. Yeah. And then he says next time, question mark, as in yeah you're going to stick around. Yeah. You're coming. Yeah.
00:53:44
Speaker
So he takes her along for this incredibly brutal murder of an entire speed bike can. Literally spraying fire. Just out of pure anger, which I mean, I get. And because he's got to do it because... Well, he's been led to believe that they killed his tribe. Yeah, retribution. of course he's going to do it. And Fennec just gives him a tiny little nod. Yeah, I think she gets it. Well, she's heard the story yeah around the fire. She's the one that said that it was unlikely. Yes.
00:54:07
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The sound design of the fire spray in Tatooine atmosphere, sounds like a tractor almost. It's a very low RPM engine, which I'm here for. When we saw it on Tython in The Mandalorian, don't think we were close enough to it. sound the same. No. We were lot closer in this episode, which is really cool. Yeah. Great sounding. And then they're off looking for some armour in the Sarlacc bit. Yeah. This is why there's so much going on in this episode. Yeah. Because we've just had, we've had this heist and now we've murdered a speed bike gang and now we're hunting Sarlacc. And we're still nowhere near the end. It's ridiculous. Yeah. She's very nervous about this.
00:54:44
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and Understandably. There's some beautiful shots here though. Yeah. Them looking into the Sarlacc pit and yeah the shot from the Sarlacc pit up and oh my God. Yeah. All the like playing with the rotation of the ship and all of that. Like having the cockpit and she has to climb down onto the glass. Yeah. Yeah. To like reach the seismic charge button. To press the button. Yeah, yeah. Did you say fire in the hole? She said fire in the She says fire fire in the hole. And he says, next time don't touch my buttons.
00:55:12
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Well, I think it was a worthy use of a seismic charge, to be fair. I think it was a worthy use. It sounded cool. It looked cool. Yeah. There's Sarlacc everywhere. he needed revenge. Yeah. For the Sarlacc. There's lots of creepy sounds down there as well. Yeah. Just before she blows it up. Yeah. Sounds terrifying in the Sarlacc pit. Yeah.
Garsa Fwip's Peace Efforts
00:55:32
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Interestingly, I saw the picture of the Sarlacc in that book. I was just talking about the best tree book. yeah. And it is a wild creature. It's enormous. Like it goes right under the sand for miles and looks like just a big sort of blobby alien thing. And the bit that we see, the mouth, is only like a teeny tiny... Tiny bit of it, yeah. Which I guess is why, you know, the Krayt Dragon living in the old Sarlacc pit starts to make sense when you realise it's this huge thing that leaves a massive cave behind it when you... Yeah, when you eat it.
00:56:01
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Boba just goes like wading in. Yeah. And now we see why he needed a bacta tank. Because he's nuts. Because yeah he's been burnt to pieces. He's been completely decimated by the Sarlacc. Yeah. Not good. And a final re-version of him taking up Bib Fortuna. Yes. And we get that lush Spotska pose. little funny.
00:56:23
Speaker
I live for that moment. I don't know why. Something about it is just really cool. It's so good. It is cool. yeah She does look great. And so full circle. And then we're back to the present. Yeah. Straight back round. Yeah. The droid says he's completely healed. Yeah.
00:56:34
Speaker
He's out the tank. Fennec says the mayor's majordomo is singing like a yosem. Yes. Whatever that is. What is a yosem? I've not looked that up yet. I want to find out. And so we're straight round to the sanctuary because that's, I guess, where the majordomo is said to go. Yeah. I put Rebo's laying down some chill out techno, which is my favorite music cue of the two episodes. Oh, that was your favorite music cue. Yeah, this superseded the mod parlor music, which they're both similar. I mean, I'd have a job to really choose between them.
00:57:02
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I think I just like this in-universe electronica. Yeah, sure. Because I feel like the music in the mod parlor, although it technically wasn't diegetic, ah kind of kind of could be I feel that some of it was supposed to be diegetic because they would have had music on in there in there yeah and it would have been that type of music 100% so I'm here for this kind of diegetic music that feels super contemporary and futuristic yeah because so often it doesn't yeah in science fiction science fiction doesn't always do diegetic music very well but this yeah Max Rebo's band is doing it this one's interesting for me yeah Love it. And
Wookiee-Trandoshan Conflict
00:57:37
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note on this was Garsa Fwip does some great de-escalation or tempts some great de-escalation. Oh my gosh.
00:57:45
Speaker
She's fab. So we're going to find out in the Clone Wars a little bit more about this Wookiee-Trandoshan conflict. Yes. We talked about it last time a little bit. Yeah. When the Trandoshans bought the Wookiee pelt. Yes. Yeah, yeah. i feel like this is where, as geeky Star Wars fans, we get a lot more from this kind of scene because... I was absolutely on the edge of my seat every time we got a shot of the Trandoshans because I just could sense. okay I mean, I know they're setting up a fight, but you don't really understand the full scale of that.
00:58:14
Speaker
When A, Kassantan is a trained gladiator, and B, Trandoshans hunted Wookiee. Like all of those yeah things together lead you to appreciate the tension of this scene so much more. Yeah, and I had that this time round because we had this conversation last week.
00:58:31
Speaker
which means that when I watched it this morning, I was like, oh, I get it now. Yeah, because I mean, the translations were being a little bit annoying and it could just... But they weren't being that annoying. But they weren't being that annoying, yeah. He is just unhinged. He's not having it. Yeah. He's not having it. And she does, like you say, she does do a good bit of like de-escalation, but... Boba gets that amazing line. Yeah. Worth a shot. Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:54
Speaker
we see We finally see a Wookiee ripping somebody's arms out of their sockets. We've been waiting. yeah He only does one, though, I think. Yeah, just one arm. Is it just one arm? Yeah, it's just one arm. Yeah, yeah because he has the other arm. yeah And Garsapwhip just rolls her eyes. Sighs.
00:59:10
Speaker
ah Seen it all before. She's incredible. Yeah. Oh, I love her. she She's great. I noticed when I watched this episode last night yeah that there's something about the lens they're using all there's something about her. I feel it's a combination of the two things. She makes widescreen look way more cinematic. Just her. Just...
00:59:30
Speaker
Interesting. Whether they use a slightly specific type of lens for her, which I know sometimes happens with actresses, especially older than, you know, past their 20s kind of thing, when yeah suddenly nobody is allowed to look old anymore kind of thing, which is really annoying. But there may be something about the lens choice, but... Every single shot of her, it looks like a similar example of this is at the end of Return of the King when Arwen appears from behind the banner at Minas Tirith. Yeah, yeah. Aragorn's just sung his song and they reveal that she's come back. and She's there. The shooting of Liv Tyler in that moment looks similar. It's very, very complimentary to them as performers. Yeah. It makes them look super beautiful. Yeah. It's just a lens choice maybe. But I also feel like she has a look which we don't often see. Yeah. It's just really specific. Yeah. And she's just so beautiful. is. I mean, I know she's got like an incredible makeup on. Yeah. I just became fascinated by her head tails and the glitter detail in her dress that extends into the wraps of the head tails and stuff. All of the styling. Her costume's incredible. Unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:40
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. She shines in a way that the others just don't. Yeah, yeah. There's other beautiful characters, yeah. And yet she's quite a bit older than those, like, in a sense, less stereotypically beautiful than the Hollywood standards of things. but
Palace Negotiations
01:00:52
Speaker
she, like you say, she just pops way more than anybody else. She does. She's great. And when she's hit at Max, if I was Max Rebo, I don't think I'd be able to play my instrument anymore. Yep. Okay. Yeah. but So, yeah. Before I gush any more about Jennifer Beals, let's... In a very respectful way. Let's go back to the palace. go back to the palace where Fenwick is dealing with some politics. Yeah. We got this, the meeting of the families.
01:01:17
Speaker
Yes. Which is very, yeah. It's quite tense. Yeah. Yeah. that I like how each of the families have got their own feel. Yeah. They've all got their own language, which, you know, affects the way they communicate and everything else. They all comm communicate in in different ways, but... yeah It also, they just have a different perspective somehow. we We're told that really well. Maybe in this choreographer thing, director-wise, like what Bronwyn was talking about when we had her on for the Sanctuary episode. yeah The nuance between choreography and movement direction. And when we're dealing with aliens like Trandoshans and Aquilish all move in different ways. Yeah. Yeah, it's super interesting. It's all quite a tense it quite a tense meeting and Fennec's holding her own pretty well yeah in all of it.
01:02:01
Speaker
Yeah. But they do have to get a little kind of rancor threat in there. Yeah. Yeah, doesn't go. Just to kind of make their point. Yeah. But I mean, it stands to me. What she's saying is sound. There is this problem on the horizon of the Pikes. And, you know, we can't do this individually. No. But ultimately, they don't want to do it. But they won't get involved. Yeah, they settle for neutrality. Yeah, they're not going to betray But they won't get involved in the actual fighting. Which is an interesting bit of foreshadowing. Yeah. It's kind of like, I'm quite surprised at the Trandoshans especially because they're known as being quite aggressive species and fighters maybe Maybe they know some stuff about the pikes that we don't yet Well the pikes are very powerful in their, you know, the spice trade is huge and they're a big part of that and you wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of that I guess And I suppose they're all still testing Boba as well, aren't they? Yeah, true. And it all goes back to that early on thing that we were talking about of the fact that Mos Espa is not as rough and rugged as Eisley. Like, I don't think this
Community Dynamics in Mos Espa
01:03:05
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would be happening in Mos Eisley. No.
01:03:06
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I think Mos Espa has maybe got a bit lax, a bit soft almost. Interesting, yeah. Because that you know the uneasy balance has been maintained. Bib Fortuna was not the dynamic... leader that he should have been. And the others were just, they've all just got a bit too complacent. Yeah,
Foreshadowing Pike Conflicts
01:03:25
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for sure. And now they don't really know how to deal with an actual threat. They're not quite sure what's going on. Yeah.
01:03:31
Speaker
Could well be. But yeah, they've settled for neutrality. Fair enough. Which makes sense. I love this line, credits can buy muscle if you know where to look. Followed by the theme. The theme of Lambo, as if we didn't know. remember first time around, everybody online was like, are we doing this? Are we doing it? Are we really doing this? Oh, yeah. Little did we know that we were about to get the best episode of Star Wars television. The best episode ever. Ever.
01:03:57
Speaker
which we can debate next week. but Excellent. That is what we're going to debating next week. I cannot wait. It is, as I've said many times, my favorite episode. i love We're doing just the one episode. We are, because I love it so much. yeah As
Podcast Scheduling Humor
01:04:10
Speaker
the keeper of the schedule, I made the executive decision that we need a whole episode to just talk about. Do you know, my phone made a noise the other day that I'd never heard before because I keep my phone on silent. yeah I've heard it before, but I don't register what it is. And it made a noise. And I was with Jessica, friend of the podcast. yeah She went, do you need to get that? And I went, I don't know what that noise means. And then she went, do you need to check? And I looked at it and I was like, it's just telling me that the podcast episode's out tomorrow. And she was like, what do you mean? And I went, Bramwine's got control of my calendar
Audience Growth and Feedback
01:04:40
Speaker
and can put things on it. And this is how my phone tells me.
01:04:45
Speaker
So yes, scheduling queen over here. That's so funny. Yeah, I apologise because I'm often tinkering with the schedule and every time I do a little edit, I'm like, is it going to notify Sia? I'm just going to get 10 emails. It does notify No, it doesn't e email me anymore. okay It just plops it onto my onto my calendar, which is good and then notifies me because I won't do anything if I'm... yeah If it's not in my calendar, it's not in my life. so you know, it's good that you've got control of my calendar.
01:05:18
Speaker
Yay. yeah I can't wait. Bryce Dallas Howard. Exciting times. Mando and Grogu. Here we go. No Grogu, actually, is there? No, Greg, you know. But Mando... ah Mando's back. Kelly Motto.
01:05:35
Speaker
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Speaker
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01:06:32
Speaker
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Introducing Video Content
01:06:33
Speaker
us on all other things. Insta, Facebook. Blue Sky. Facebook. YouTube channel. YouTube. It's a YouTube channel. We got quite a few listeners on YouTube, I think. Have we? Yeah. Interesting. Which is really cool. It's not not video on YouTube, you'll be sorry to hear, but it's just audio. but but Maybe one day, i don't think, the world is ready for our...
01:06:54
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oh which is not ready for visuals. I do sometimes
Closing Remarks and Future Episodes
01:06:59
Speaker
like the idea of video yeah because I've often got like props that I want to show, like show and tell type Yeah, sure. Maybe one day.
01:07:05
Speaker
Props, maybe one day, maybe for a special occasion. Yeah. Yeah, we'll be back next week. Just us two. Yeah. and Talking about one episode. So looking forward to it. Get ready for some geeky stuff.
01:07:21
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Excellent. Until then, we'll see you. Bye. Bye.