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Delving into THE MANDALORIAN Chapter 17 | 023
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Join Branwen and Seah as they deep dive into all things Star Wars. Follow along as we fly off exploring all the wonders and geekery of a Galaxy Far, Far Away, chatting nostalgia, worlds, lore, sound, music, story, behind the scenes, and much more with each other and some very special guests.
This season, we're on a rewatch of The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett in the run-up to the release of "The Mandalorian and Grogu" in cinemas in May.
In our twenty-third episode we're side-stepping back to re-join The Mandalorian for Season 3, Chapter 17 "The Apostate". We talk about themes, performances, story details, music, sound design, anzellans, purrgils, pirates, Bo-Katan's mood, and much more. Watch out for our brand new segment "West End Geek Girls", which now has a little theme tune!
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Favorite Lines & Humor from The Mandalorian Chapter 17
00:00:15
Speaker
Sia. Hi. What's your favorite line from The Mandalorian Chapter 17? No, no, the bogan. It's boke.
00:00:29
Speaker
Oh well, that ruins my choice. Does that mean you have to re-choose? It does, yeah. I don't have many choice. I haven't got many choice listed. It's quite hard, this one.
00:00:42
Speaker
Okay. Hey, Branwen. Hi. What is your favourite line from the Mandalorian, Chapter 17? Avast, Mandalorian! i also had that one written down. So we literally had the same choices.
00:00:57
Speaker
Amazing. We're so in each other's heads now. oh That's so funny.
Introduction to 'Sisters of the Force' & Season 3 Discussion
00:01:05
Speaker
You're listening to Sisters of the Force, a Star Wars podcast with me, Branwen. And me, Sia. And today we are kicking off The Mandalorian Season 3. Da-da-da-da!
00:01:17
Speaker
Yay! Having finished Book of Oberfett last week, which was amazing, with lovely Mary. yeah This is a wild episode. This is quite a wild episode. Like, I remember watching it for the first time and I had no idea what to expect. Like, having left...
00:01:31
Speaker
Well, initially left Mando at the end of season two with this whole Luke Skywalker episode and yeah all sorts of shenanigans going on.
Expectations & Setups for Season 3
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Speaker
And then the weird like Mando drop in Book of Oba Fett. And i was like, what on earth are we going to get next? yeah Where are we going? What's what's his next mission? and i was not disappointed in just like the the surprises and the kind of unexpectedness of the whole thing. was really cool.
00:01:59
Speaker
I was really glad to see some of the characters again that I wasn't necessarily expecting to see. Sure. and yeah This one sets up quite a lot as well. There's a lot of setup. Yeah, that's very true. Yeah, which I seem to remember when listening to like episode one, you know, of The Mandalorian. Yeah.
00:02:13
Speaker
we were saying the same thing of how like it lays out a load of stuff. And I think because of the kind of complications raised by having the Mandalorian the book of Boba Fett and yeah, all of that sort of like story sidestepping and everything else that I feel like they needed to like,
00:02:31
Speaker
re-establish, set up what this season is going to be. So if anyone was going through and watching without watching the Book a above of Boba Fett in the middle, this would make no sense. Yeah.
00:02:44
Speaker
Well, I don't know. Yeah, I was wondering about that. I hadn't consciously sat down and thought about that. I'm guessing they've probably tried to do it, but don't know. You would have left on that whole Luke Skywalker drop thing and then suddenly Grogu's back.
Continuity Confusion without The Book of Boba Fett
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and that's true there's no explanation of that in this one apart from the recap i guess i was gonna say the recap i think has a little bit of it a little bit yeah but not really yeah i guess you'd have just like gone oh well But also, why would you be watching this without watching the book of Boba Fett in between?
00:03:19
Speaker
but Let's be real. It's true, yeah yeah yeah. Although I think there might be you know your casual Star Wars watchers who will have like got into Mando because of yeah k Grogu.
00:03:33
Speaker
And then they would have been like, oh, we don't need to watch this book about Malarkey. And they wouldn't have realised. And would have missed half of the story. I wonder what the like viewing figures of Mando season three are like, because it could be that people tuned in and then the viewership might have fallen off a bit as a result of that. Maybe that's something to look at. Yeah. I mean, it's their loss because the viewers, I mean. Yeah. not flat front team it's definitely not their loss they're fine yeah they yeah i feel like they just had fun with this season oh yeah they just thought that you know what let's just do this why not yeah okay so here's my confession yeah okay i haven't finished season three Okay. So... You don't need to confess that. um I started... Well, this is where the confession comes in. That's context for the confession. The confession is... i started season three last Thursday. Yeah. And I watched...
00:04:32
Speaker
Most of it? How many episodes is it? I watched all but the last three episodes. Okay, yeah. So I did a classic, see a binge is what we like to call that. Yeah. I just sat and binged all of it. That's a good three or four hours of TV. Yeah, I'm good at that.
00:04:48
Speaker
And then I had to go to work, so then I had to stop. But today, when I re-watched the first episode, ready, there was a little tiny voice in my head going, watch the last three, watch the last three, watch the last But you didn't. And I went, if you watch the last three, you are going to be useless for recording a podcast about episode one this evening. I get it. Yeah, that would have been that would have been confusing. Very confusing. So guess what I'm doing after this.
Viewing Habits & Unfinished Season 3 Confession
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That's cool. I'm sorry, my dad is calling me. Let me just... That's because he heard about my binge watching. Yeah, he's like, how dare you watch that many episodes of TV in one go?
00:05:34
Speaker
I don't think he would, actually. I think you condone i think there's there's a reason I'm like this. If you're listening, hi Mike. How are you? I miss you. Haven't seen you for ages.
00:05:46
Speaker
And by the way, Sia's allowed to watch as many episodes of Star Wars television as she likes. We'll answer my phone to my father later on the a separate podcast. That could be a bonus episode. episode Yeah. Anyway. Okay. So I don't know why that was a confession, really, because like I think most of season one, you hadn't watched all of them.
00:06:09
Speaker
you Yes. I think you did watch As We Went, I think. as we I watched a bit As We Went, and then I was a bit ahead. Yeah. And then came back. That's cool. Yeah. So this is the apostate. Yes. Is that how pronounce apostate? Apostate. Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:23
Speaker
yeah um I had to look that up because I didn't really know what it was, so... What an apostate was? Yeah. Interesting. I think I am far too into cults to... I mean, I'm not into cults. What are you trying to tell here? That was such a weird way of saying it I'm fascinated by cults, so... Interesting, yeah. I know what an apostate is, and... ah Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got one. We
Opening Sequence Analysis: Rituals & Sound Design
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got one. We got one in this episode.
00:06:54
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He is part of a cult. it's quite It's incredibly culty. It is, yeah. We have said that before. that I mean, this whole opening sequence is so, like, i mean, it's ritualistic. Yes. My first note is we open on mysterious flutes and hammering, which must mean and the armour is around. Yes.
00:07:11
Speaker
It's the clue, yeah. i spoke like On my first it was something about sound design as well, of the Forge. yeah Before we've even seen the logo, like the the helmet thing, which yeah normally the helmet thing and the first Star Wars logo has that tune with it, but they've kind of stopped doing that, which I quite like, you know, that they've integrating...
00:07:31
Speaker
The opening sound design. I love something that starts with sound design before the visuals. I do like that. Gives you a little clue. Yeah, as a sound person as well. Yes. Yeah, so it was quite a good clue of like forged noises, like the hammering and all of that kind of stuff. The noise of the, what's it called? The flame thing? ah Furnace. Is it furnace? Yeah, I think so.
00:07:53
Speaker
My brain is not working with words this evening, so bear with.
00:07:58
Speaker
Early on, there's like a real focus in, i think it's one of the first things we see of the Mythosaur on the wall, yeah which is yes a bit of, which we've already seen. It's nothing new and it does inform us of where we are. yeah But it is a little bit of foreshadowing, I think. Yes. A little bit.
00:08:15
Speaker
Tiny bit. But here we are. We're at a baptism. Yeah, the interesting sound stuff going on with the diegetic drums. Like the drums are part of the soundtrack, but the Mandalorians are playing the drums yeah in the corridor.
00:08:28
Speaker
Yeah, this is a really interesting place. Yeah. what Where are we? Do we know where we are? I don't know that we do know the name of this planet. I think it's like it's a secret to the galaxy. I'm not sure how Mando found them, actually, because I would have thought the children of the Watch would have been in hiding. Hiding from him, yeah.
00:08:47
Speaker
They're rebuilding, regrowing. they're They're trying to be in hiding from the galaxy generally, like they were on Navarro. But somehow he's found them. He knows exactly where they are. Yeah, he's probably got some kind of communication with the Armourer going on generally.
00:09:02
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Although she's not very happy to see him. No, no. And to be fair, I think she's like, he is a heretic. You know, he's yeah been booted and like, she doesn't see a way that he can ever come back. No, that's true.
00:09:15
Speaker
Even after this whole episode, she doesn't as well get to. Yeah, that's true. I was intrigued to see whether this was shot in an actual place because although they're very clever with the volume and they get cleverer and cleverer, and we had this conversation with the ah episode Tragedy, which yeah you was shot in the Californian Hills, I thought this looks very real. like They're in water. yeah like There is water lapping on the shores. Yeah. And there was wind blowing in the kid's hair, I think it was. Definitely there was you could see wind blowing somewhere.
00:09:47
Speaker
But apparently it is in the volume, according to the internet. Okay. Which I know how they know. don't know whether we believe you not. Those people on the internet.
Pirate Themes & Layered Storytelling
00:09:56
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It's apparently based on Lake Powell, which is on the border of Utah and Arizona. And like when I say based on, I think they actually shot a load of stuff there to make the 3D imagery, you know, that they need to...
00:10:08
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put on the led wall in the volume so yeah it is a real i don't think it's a cgi place entirely like some other locations are think it's like i mean i'm guessing a lot of the like exterior volume stuff is probably mixture of real footage of real places but yeah mixed in with cgi stuff and yeah Yeah, know.
00:10:31
Speaker
But it's very realistic looking. It is. But it is also very Star Wars-y and not of our planet. Yeah. But they've managed to get a whole furnace in there somehow. Yeah. Whether they've built that from scratch. I mean, I think she's probably got a the furnace, isn't it? She seems to take it with her. But it didn't seem like they had much time when they left Navarro to be packing up a furnace and then... Like the last time we saw it was on the Ringworld. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:10:59
Speaker
Which again, like how would you just like fly How did you transport a furnace to the Ringworld? I bet it compacts down really small. I think I get the feeling. of The armourer, she's very and very, very skilled and she would like take great pleasure in making a genius design yeah of something that like folds up hinges and little, you know, fold away bits.
00:11:19
Speaker
Yeah. But do want to see the design of that. Yeah, yeah. How does it all fold into this? How does it work? You'll carry on. Yeah. that' But yeah, cts cold tv cult, behaviour. Cult vibes. I mean, i was yeah it was just kind of religious rather than culty necessarily. Yeah. Except for the thing of like, this is it. You're now never going to show your face again. Yeah.
00:11:40
Speaker
I felt a bit sad about that as well because it's like, obviously we don't find out, but i don't think we find out this episode who the kid is, but like yeah he's someone's kid and yeah yeah they're going to not see their kid's face ever again. That's weird. Yeah. It's weird thing to think about. That is weird.
00:11:57
Speaker
i was listening back to our episode with Jessica breaking down ah chapters 15 and 16 and she said something about Grogu touching Din's face and that his face wouldn't have been touched. Wouldn't have been touched that as well. Yeah. Like that is, it's just things we take for granted. But yeah this is the way.
00:12:15
Speaker
Yeah, I suppose. It doesn't have to be, but it's their way. It doesn't have to be, yeah. As far as they're concerned, if you want to be a Mandalorian and have all the benefits of being a Mandalorian, yeah which is like protection, brother and sisterhood and all of that stuff, then this is the way. But as we know from the other sects, you know, the night elves or whoever they are nowadays, yeah, you don't have
Character Motivations & Mandalorian Culture
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to do it. No.
00:12:43
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It doesn't have to be... But anyway, they're and interrupted very quickly by a dragon, a water one. Yeah. We've had sand, we've had flying, we've now got water ones. I think Favreau loves, I mean, we had ice on the very first part. yeah. That big thing. I think he loves his, like, giant creatures. creatures, yeah. Which I think is is cool.
00:13:04
Speaker
That's very Jon Favreau. It's called a lake monster or a dinosaur turtle, apparently. Either way, terrifying. I feel like Team Favreau is not great at coming names for things. No. Like, a lot the creature names are just a bit generic. We want Star Wars. Oh, yeah, there was a sand monster at one point, wasn't there? Yeah. not really. Sand Beast, that's what had in Book Bobber. Sand Beast, yeah. And, like, was it Fire?
00:13:30
Speaker
um i can't remember what the little critters were on Navarro that Oh, yeah, like fire. Caradoon started to feed fire neocats or something. Fire cats, yeah. Have an earth name and stick a descriptive place in front of it. and Sure. Like we want tauntauns and wampas and crepe dragons and things. Clever names. George Lucas needs to just give them me a whole book of names creatures. Names and stuff, yeah. Or get the role-playing game people on the case. Yes, that's true. kind yes sorry i had to I had a note that this fight is really quite dramatic. Yeah. But they're also pretty screwed before Dillon shows up.
00:14:09
Speaker
I don't think he's going very well at all. No. he've lost Mandos, you know? Yeah. Paz has got his light heavy or probably a light repeater. Yeah, yeah. On the go, which is doing something. but it's not really doing very well. Yeah. No. They try and put the little charges on the back. There's a really weird GoPro shot, like as though the GoPro is attached to somebody's helmet. Yeah, yeah. As they're flying off from the thing. I mean, it's a...
00:14:33
Speaker
bold to directing choice yeah yeah suck kind of cool yeah but yeah they are they're not winning that's for sure until we get that recorder harmonic sound which we're now getting very used to hearing whatever it is i've got a recorder shall we see if i can do it oh you're a recorder i do amazing i don't think i can do it though No, I can't.
00:15:00
Speaker
You didn't even try your rest. No, I didn't. I chickened out. This recorder has probably not been played in ages. I stole it from work. Don't tell anyone. Right, next time I'm going to get my recorder out. Okay, well we'll learn how to do it for the next episode. We'll do some little, yeah squawks and annoy everybody.
00:15:17
Speaker
Yeah, he pretty much saves the day. He torpedoes the thing. Yes. The lake monster. I love right at the end, Grogu just pops up and gives them a little wave. Yeah, yeah. yeah All the Mandalorians behind their helmets are rolling their eyes.
00:15:32
Speaker
Not this little guy again. so I loved there was some big brass low notes over the titles. Like, again, they sort they keep reorchestrating the theme. Yeah. I think for most of season one, the theme was always the theme. as it You know, it's original mix kind of thing. Sure. But now we're hearing it in lots of different iterations, which is great.
00:15:55
Speaker
But then we're straight Din being quite thoroughly ticked off by the armourer. Yeah. um She is not happy, as you say earlier. She's not having it. not happy, yeah. She's not a believer.
00:16:07
Speaker
She's convinced that Mandalore is absolutely unlivable, absolutely toxic, and that the mines will have been destroyed with everything else. Which, I mean, I get her point. Like, the footage that we've seen and that we now see again of the planet being...
00:16:23
Speaker
nuked by the Imperials on the Night Thousand Tears. It's like it doesn't look as though there's much left of Sindari. Yeah, completely. You know, and that probably would be... Looks like it was gone. Underneath, yeah. Yeah. yeah she I mean, obviously there's a lot of bitterness in her...
00:16:38
Speaker
for the fact that they've lost their planet. Din did just save them from the big good lake monster. but Perhaps that's why she's given him the time of day, you know, that she's let him and Grogu come in and have a little chat.
00:16:51
Speaker
Somewhere he's found this bit of glass. Yes, I had a question about that, which was, when did he find this? Well, I guess I don't know how long has passed between the events of Book of Boba Fett. Okay. We don't really know. Like, he finished up on Tatooine...
00:17:08
Speaker
Did he come straight here? Maybe he's been on a little mission to try and find her for starters because he you know he knows he wants to come back and find out more about what he can do to redeem himself. I suppose he would have been going around asking for Mandalorian yeah if anyone had seen Mandalorians to try and find them if he didn't know where they were. Yeah, kind of like a rerun of what he did in season two, just following breadcrumb trail yeah to them. And along that way, found some Jawas that have got it from somebody else. Yeah.
00:17:39
Speaker
But it does look like it's got the Mandalorian text on it, the the particular fonts that they use. Yes. And it's given him like hope that somebody went there to get it. If somebody can go and get it, then somebody can go again, you go to the planet.
00:17:53
Speaker
And he wants to go there to see if he can find the mines. yeah She's doing yet more behind the mask eye rolling. Yeah. she's not having it she gives a very eye-rolly this is the way the end of the scene which yeah is potentially going to be on our soundboard for next week yes nice but now we can see groger in hyperspace grogu in hyperspace is very cute Is Mando asleep at this point? he is, isn't he? Yeah, Mando's just kipping in the cockpit, but Grogu's got a lot to look at. He's looking just at the... Well, is he just... What are these
Grogu's Connection to Star Wars Rebels
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things? Okay, so he's seeing what are called purgils, which are like giant space whales that can travel through hyperspace, as we can see, evidently. yeah They were introduced to us in Rebels. Okay. Which is the connection of all Star Wars things. Yeah, yeah. And they are kind of nomadic, the way they just travel around, it seems. And Ezra, who's one of the main characters of Rebels, who is Force-sensitive, he is very good at making Force connections with creatures. Right. He does it multiple times, and he makes a bit of a Force connection with the Purr girls in an episode or two. Okay. And they discover that they can jump to hyperspace. Okay. Are they like following the ships through hyperspace or are they just doing it themselves? No, I think they're just making their way. Okay. spoiler, trying to avoid spoilers, but the Ahsoka show, which has often been called Rebels Season 5, is, yeah, we might get to see them again and we might get to find out a bit more about okay how they operate. And I think this is probably sowing a seed for that. For that later.
00:19:37
Speaker
In case anybody hasn't watched Rebels. At this point, Dave Filoni would have known that he's going to be using purgles in Ahsoka. So he's like, we need to introduce them in live action. So let's just have a beautiful scene. yeah Kroger in hyperspace. Yeah.
00:19:53
Speaker
And they happen to be following some purgles. And they happen to there. Ooh. Well, it's very pretty. It's very atmospheric. Yeah. And then he just kind of pops himself down and goes. Yeah, he gets to see so cute. He just shuffles himself down and goes and finds his sleeping daddy. Yeah.
00:20:08
Speaker
And I thought they were going to go straight to... Well, I didn't know where they were going, to be honest. I'd forgotten when I was on the rewatch. But I'd forgotten that they're going to Navarro. so Yeah, we're back to Navarro again. A nice droid welcoming them in space. Welcome to Navarro.
00:20:23
Speaker
Who I think we then see again in the street. Yeah, so I had a question about her. Because she's like, in the street when they see her, she's just like...
00:20:34
Speaker
giving off tourist information to no one in particular. It's like, is she practicing or is she like, does she have audience? What's going on? How is she doing like air traffic control at the same time? it just maybe they've got like a protocol droid hive mind thing going on where like they're all connected via a network and of them's up in a room somewhere doing the incoming ships thing. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's others that are doing, yeah, the Disneyland greeting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Welcome to Navarro. was weird. She's talking about going to see the hot springs and taking in the sights.
00:21:11
Speaker
Well, I think Grief has, you know, he's got big ambitions for Navarro. He's already done tons if you compare it to like season one Navarro. This is unrecognizable. Completely different now. Here we get the absolute retribution of koakia monkey lizards. Yes. just This is what I was referring to way back in season one Yes. When you and Sarah were horrified by cooking. Eating them, yeah.
00:21:36
Speaker
Now they're free. We've now got them running free, cheering at people from the trees. Yeah. There's a lush, busking group.
00:21:46
Speaker
Yes. Two Twi'leks, a Gran, and I don't know what the other species was. yeah I think they're playing medieval space music. It sounded very medieval. And the instruments looked a bit medieval as well, or some of them did anyway. it's kind of cut That's very Grief Karger to me. That that feels like Grief Karger's personality. That's what he would do. Here, minstrels. do Yeah.
00:22:10
Speaker
but That's what you would have called them as well. They go past the IG-11 statue thing. It's kind of half statue, half taxidermy. Taxidermy is so weird. I'm not sure about that. Mando says, do you remember your old friend, which I found really sad. Grogu just kind of looks at Is Mando that says that?
00:22:32
Speaker
Yeah, it is Mando. Yeah. Yeah. grief comes to get them and we go straight into his office and my note here was grogu's doing exactly what i would do which is oh not pay attention and just spin around in the chair yeah is he using the force to do that yeah i'm assuming yeah he's just like reach anything he's just pushing himself around with the force He also steals some snacks at some point as well. the Yeah, he's getting the M&M. All will the red M&Ms have been picked out.
00:23:02
Speaker
He's a levitating one. Yeah. When we do our Star Wars costume slash wardrobe whatever episode with Mum and Rebecca, we need talk about Grief Karga's robes. Oh, yeah. This robe is impressive. Oh, my God. Like, it's red, it's gold, it's...
00:23:21
Speaker
broad, it's sumptuous. All of the stuff. Oh my gosh. It's pretty cool. He's got some good tailors on Navarro. We get a nice bit of pirate foreshadowing well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's talking about them being an official trade spur of the Hydean Way. Yeah. which and The Hydean Way was mentioned last time we were on Navarro when Grogu was having his little blue macarons in the yeah lesson.
00:23:47
Speaker
And yeah, the Hydean Way, as we mentioned back in that a podcast episode, is like one of the main trade routes across the galaxy. So the fact that they're like an official part of it is really cool. he shows that Navarro has become like valuable. I guess, is this where he, when he mentions the pirates, it's to do with the asteroid belt yeah where the mining is going on? Yeah. Yeah, he does. I'm going to see him a bit. Yeah.
00:24:10
Speaker
Yeah. He's trying to sell Din place. Piece of land. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he's trying to sell it. I think he's offering it. He's offering it. He's offering him to come and stay and settle down. he also He's also really dismissive about Grogu's name. He's like, whatever you say. Yeah. Is that meta?
Portrayal of Pirates in Star Wars Lore
00:24:28
Speaker
We've had a few meta like responses, feel like, to Grogu's name. Somebody's saying, I'm not calling him that.
00:24:35
Speaker
Yeah, Peli said, I'm not calling him you. I'm not calling you that. What a terrible name. Which is what the fandom is all saying. And then grief is just like, yeah, whatever. Whatever, yeah. Which like, what the rest of us are doing.
00:24:46
Speaker
Shall I use cool croaking? Yeah, fine. Yeah, fine, whatever. But yeah yeah, Mando's not keen. i mean, I think he is part of him is like contemplating, kicking back, relaxing with his kid on a nice planet. He's quite determined though, isn't he? That he's going to go and bathe in these mines. Yeah, he's got to rejoin his cult. Yeah. And in order to rejoin the cult, he needs to find a droid. And he wants one droid in particular. One particular droid.
00:25:17
Speaker
But before they get into that, yeah, is this this is where the protocol droid comes in and gets his um title wrong. Yes. Magistrate. no high magistrate. So funny.
00:25:28
Speaker
For a kind of... not species yeah they kind of are a species who are so well programmed with etiquette and protocol protocol droids are always messing up titles they're always getting things like that wrong 3po is doing it all the time and used to think oh maybe it's just 3po's got a glitch with other protocol droids as well we need some better ai yeah they're not a fan of the titley things yeah They just can't do titles. But yeah, Vane, the Nikto pirate, we're going to get to know a lot more of beyond the Mandoverse as well. Really? Ooh, intrigued. He's coming to other TV stuff, which I love. Okay. Yeah, he's a Nikto he's there with his gang, which includes... Short-lived gang. Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:16
Speaker
There's a Klaatuinian, possibly two. There's possibly two Niktoes, including Vayne. There's a Weequay, maybe two. There's Weequay. And there's one Quarren. And then there's two something else, I think. There's a little Trandoshan who looks really short, whether he's just standing on the floor, I don't know. Yeah.
00:26:32
Speaker
He looked really short. Oh my goodness! It's time already! I changed my mind lots of times about this. but Okay, tell me. We're going with something a bit generic. or Generic.
00:26:45
Speaker
Like it'd be easy to just pick another one of those alien species, which is what I've done a few times with West End Geek Girls. And by the way, listener, if you've never listened before. you This is a thing. This is a thing. It's called West End Geek Girls. We refer to one component from an episode of whatever we're covering and relate it back to Star Wars role-playing game. which was made by a company called West End Games back in the late 80s, early 90s.
00:27:11
Speaker
And yeah, I thought we'd just go back about pirates a bit because okay pirates are a very important part of the Star Wars galaxy. We yeah hear about them a lot. They've been around for a long time. But in the original trilogy, which is the only thing really that predates the role-playing game, yeah they weren't really dealt with. They were mentioned, like Lando calls Han a pirate. A pirate, yeah. Yeah.
00:27:34
Speaker
And I think pirate might have come up in Hannah and Leia's conversation once twice. I think she's called him a pirate too. Yeah, but there's never been an actual reference to an actual pirate in the original trilogy, right as I remember.
00:27:46
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ah So the West End Games early version of the role-playing game did flesh out pirates in quite a lot of detail. Okay. Which is really cool. In fact, in the very original rule book, the very first book that came out, one of the character templates at the back was for a pirate, which I remember when I bought the book, i was like, oh my God, this is so cool. I want a pi pirate. I never did because there were so many other cool things to Yeah, yeah, And I ended up playing a smuggler, which is like, yeah. Standard. A bit more obvious, but hey. If I ever play again, I might play a pirate. Play a pirate. Possibly as a result I'm about to talk about. Space pirates.
00:28:21
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the character template that they give you has got like some information on the back of the character sheet to just tell the player a bit about that particular pirate. Sure. And it says, so i thought I'd read that because it kind of gives you an idea of what West End Games thought pirates were yeah the world of Star Wars as like the original version of the Star Wars pirate. So you were just a kid. And when you were offered a position in the crew of, insert ship name here, yeah you jumped at the chance. Finally, way off the Hick planet you grew up on. You realised the ship was a little disreputable, but you hadn't realised you were hooking up with the genuine article. Desperate, grizzled pirates thirsting for gold and the blood of innocents are mating. Excellent. Well, it isn't quite like that, actually. Pirates are not much like the vid show stereotype. No one actually says, are matey. Certainly no one wears an eye patch or a wooden leg.
00:29:14
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Give modern medicine some credit. And you've never known a pirate who made anyone walk the airlock. did you i yeah After all, the point of piracy is to make profit, not cause bloodshed. Okay. Atrociousness might make a captured ship's crew resist.
00:29:32
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Maybe piracy isn't the most honourable profession in the world, but imperial oppression has driven most of the small traders out of business. Bacers who don't work for the big corporations, don't have many options, bankruptcy, retirement, or piracy. Piracy.
00:29:45
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The Empire creates pirates and then destroys them. Most of your shipmates are in the spice mines of Kessel now. So obviously this was written at a time... The original West End Games version was kind of set in the time of the Rebellion.
00:29:58
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Sure. Whereas now we're obviously in the time the Republic. We're beyond back. So yeah, you'd have to sort of flip... what he was saying about the empire and just replace that with New Republic because it works just the same yeah as as is what's going on here. sure but It makes that joke about stereotypes and are matey and all of that. Funnily enough, like there's always a quote on the character sheets, which if you make up a character, you can come up with your own quote, but it gives you an example quote. And the quote is, are matey? Walk the plank or something and then chuckles in brackets. So it's like pirates know their stereotypes and they're going to like live them. And they're going to play out to it, yeah.
00:30:34
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And reading that again, which I haven't read probably since 1990, really brought my mind to a character that I really, really love from the Aftermath trilogy. Okay. Which is non-binary pirate. I believe it's the first non-binary character in the Star Wars galaxy. Ooh. non-binary pirate called Eliodi Marikovania who uses multiple pronouns.
00:30:58
Speaker
Okay. Either Zzer, because this was written quite early on in the terminology around non-binary people, whereas a lot of non-binary people now use they, them. But back in 2015 or whatever this was written, 2014, 2015, some of them were using Zzer. know some non-binary people still use Zzer. I know some people still do, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Pronouns still, I think.
00:31:20
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um But Zay also use he, him and she, her interchangeably, which is really cool. yeah The character is only featured in a couple of interludes, one in book two of the trilogy and one in book three of the trilogy. They're a human character from Nar Shaddaa, which is the smuggler's moon up above Nalhata, which is the Hutt's home planet. Yeah.
00:31:43
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But they've escaped to wild space. And in the book, Eliody and Zerkru takes over a superstar destroyer and relames it Liberty's Rule. It's amazing. But the character is very flamboyant. yeah They've got this whole routine with the crew when the crew kind of takes over.
00:32:04
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I think they take over a a passenger ship at first. I can't remember whether they go straight for the Annihilator. No, I think they take over a passenger freighter. And one of the kind of second in command types has to go and announce the arrival of Eliodi who kind of like comes in in this like massive costume and does this whole amazing monologue with a little voice.
00:32:26
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thing changing thing it's so cool that's giving our flag means death that is yeah yeah it's very very queer yeah it's also very willow the tv show which is deleted from disney bring it back disney please we're watching again yeah it's incredibly queer and i love like the queerness of pirates generally i mean gay pirates it's great I feel like Chuck Wendig, when he wrote the Aftermath trilogy, may have gone back to see that description and thought, you know what, we're just going to we're just going to have a pirate that leans into it and does all of the stereotypes, but does it ironically with a wink and a flash of silver or whatever. you know it's I think that's what pirates are. That's very steed. Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:12
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We're branching out. Yeah. We need to branch out into our flag means death because i want to talk about
Comedic Elements & World-Building in The Mandalorian
00:33:18
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it. but i need to watch it You do need to watch it Multiple people told me to watch it. Yeah, you do need to watch it.
00:33:25
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Anyway, I did find out some more from the Galaxy Guide 9, Fragments from the Outer Rim, which came out a little bit later. But it doesn't really tell us anything that we didn't already know. There's a nice little excerpt from Caelden Crothbert's study of the galactic balance of power, the New Order's Greatest Challenges, from Dataline Press, datapad entry 524.21. Something or other. like i love the role-playing game. I love the role-playing game. So cute. But it just, yeah, it says a similar sort of stuff about how the Empire has kind of like created this vacuum that pirates are filling and shown in the Outer Rim and so on. Anyway, so that was our rather extended West End Geek Girls nice pirate sidebar. I love it.
00:34:07
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I like the pirates. I like, well, these pirates are trying to get drunk in a school, which is not appropriate. Not great. Yeah.
00:34:15
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I still quite like them, though. I don't think they're trying to get drunk in there because it's a school in their defence. It used to be their drinking bar place. It to be bar. Yeah. But now it's a school.
00:34:27
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But not many of them are ever going to drink again because grief creates a bit of a scene with them and does a quick draw on Vane, which is pretty impressive. Yeah. Shoots them in the arm and then Din just wastes the rest of them. Yes.
00:34:42
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Well, he gives them a moment to think about it and then they all kind of reach for their weapon. So gone. Yeah. The wrong decision was yes Yeah, so Grief really wants somebody to be there. Yeah. you To fulfil Cara Dune's role because she's been recruited by Special Forces.
00:35:00
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Sure. A.K.A. let go by Disney. Or sent away by Disney, yeah. We'll go with the Star Wars Galaxy version of the story. Sure, sure. Gideon gets a name drop. Yeah, yeah he's been...
00:35:12
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Taken to the war tribunal yeah by the New Republic. Foreshadowing. So he needs somebody, yeah, to be a marshal, but yeah, Din's not going it. Din's not having it. Yeah. He is there only for IG-11. And my note there was, of course, he's stubborn enough to only want IG-11. Yeah. He can have any droid.
00:35:31
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He just wants IG. I think it's because it's is it because it's the only droid... He's ever trusted. Yeah, had sort of positive feelings for. I mean, I think he's warmed a bit to some of Pelly's droids. Yeah, he seems to. Especially that little cute beady unit that helped him make the end one.
00:35:48
Speaker
Yes. Which will forever live in my heart. Yes. But yeah, I think, yeah like you say, it's the only one he was he trusted. Yeah. However, it's going to go well. My note here was, oh no, he's scary again. Smash him. Yeah.
00:36:04
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Have you ever seen Carpenter's The Thing? Yes. You know the scene where they've they're like doing an experiment and the head thing falls off and sprouts legs and starts running across totally reminded me of that because they're sort of doing surgery on the droid, looking up to the power, the head falls off and it just starts dragging itself across floor. Dragging itself. In a very menacing fashion. It's terrifying, yeah. scary. I think because, i mean, I mentioned the thing, there are other horror films that have done a similar yeah of course you know part of a body whatever pulling itself along. Even though it's droid, which shouldn't be disgusting in the same way as like part of a sentient body or anything. Yeah, but it still kind of is. It's still pretty gross. It's got his orange his red lights are back on, which is the sign that he's bad. He's evil, yeah. Yeah.
00:36:50
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That's how we know. I thought I saw the protocol droid push the bust of grief. protocol droid did push the bust. Okay, yeah. It was the protocol droid that saved them. Yeah, one droid destroying another. Destroyed a different one, yeah.
00:37:04
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That's exactly what happened. Because Grief's kind of just running around going, shoot it, shoot it, shoot it. Yeah, absolutely. No wonder he's a marshal. I mean, considering he's like the head of the bounty hunter guild in this sector. should be bit more skilled. would have thought he would have been a bit more like, I mean, I guess he would have absolute respect for IG bounty hunters because he knows how lethal they are. Yeah, that's true. Even if they haven't got legs.
00:37:28
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that's Very true. They're saved by the useless protocol droid. He's not useless. No. But all of this is is to our benefit because it means we get to go and see some Anselans. I love them. Me too. I was just watching the Mando trailer again, which you saw five weeks ago, listener. It's got three Anzelans in a little bike thing with Grogu and I reckon they're the same ones. I think yeah they are these three. Yeah, they be. Because he defends them and and they come back up again later on in the season, don't they? and Yeah, they appear again later. Yeah, they do. Yeah, Grogu's forged a bit of a shape relationship with them. Yeah.
00:38:13
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It's again voiced by Shirley Henderson, the amazing voice actress. We like Shirley Henderson. Yeah, she's so funny. like she She's just like ah She just gets Anselm. It's one of the best. like I mean, obviously somebody's written the dialogue, but I can't help feeling that she makes a lot of the dialogue yeah in her delivery of it. Even if it's written word for word what she says with all the little alien language bits. like I was watching it with subtitles on and like,
00:38:43
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It gives you the bit the English bits where the Anzelans are trying to speak English and then it just says Anzelan speech. Yeah, it doesn't even try for half of it. It was quite funny that they are really trying to speak English and they're speaking pretty well, but Lando still can't understand them. and grief's repeating everything i think the gag is is that he does and he's just getting increasingly like annoyed with grief and at one point he even says yeah i got that yeah and then grief just carries on doing it and you can see din's just like i can't even i don't even have the energy to like tell you to shut mean it must have taken a lot for din to even get into their workshop it's like alice in wonderland or yeah he had to crawl through that hatch didn't he yeah It's like um Luke Skywalker in Yoda's cut on Dagobah, where like if he stands up, he's going to bang his head. At least Dinah's got his armour on, so he's yeah he's all right like going to be okay. But it doesn't look very comfortable with sitting in your armour while crunched up. yeah yeah Talking to Anselm and Zabel.
00:39:44
Speaker
I think the Anselen quote that I was going to use is for my favourite line that I didn't use because you did it. I think it was a different one. It's different one. Where it says, it not friend anymore. Memory say it's broken. Buy new droid. This one poodoo. Yes.
00:39:58
Speaker
She's dropping bit of her tease in there. Yeah. And bad baby. i think they're everything. because In the first teaser of The Mandalorian and Grogu, there was a shot right at the end where Grogu shoots something and one of the Anselans says, good shot, baby. And it's a really great thing.
00:40:20
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Jam Transmissions, Rick Villanueva's show, he uses that at the end, very very end of his show, and it's really great. Makes me laugh every time. Great. Oh, they're so funny.
00:40:32
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they're really great puppets as well. They're just so cute. They are. Yeah. They've so much character. And each one has got his own little character now. Now we've got more than one, not just Babu Frick. Yes. But yeah, they can't fix IG without a particular... Not without a memory circuit. Yeah. So that's the new mission. It's like one side quest after another. Or one quest after another because each thing is a main quest. Go and memory circuit. So that's where they're off to.
00:40:59
Speaker
They're in space. Yes. And they've just taken off. So Mandy's trying to teach Grogu a bit of... Yeah, that was my note. Quick lesson for Grogu about how to fly a starfighter despite being a baby. Yeah.
00:41:12
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Ties in quite nicely with Pelly's line in the last one. They taught you how to fly an X-Wing already. Yeah, yeah, yeah. forgot about that. That was amazing. Yeah, little callback. Now he's actually getting that tuition. Now he's actually learning how to fly a starfighter. It was kind of cool. I kind of enjoyed seeing the display for a because often you don't get a good look at the controls of the ships. You just get a little, you know, passing glance at the camera or... hands rushing over the controls in emergency situations. Whereas this was like, he's pointing at which display you have to look at in yeah you know in the M1 to be able to see where you're going to go and like yeah how the concept of like fuel consumption dictates like your hyperspace planning because you have to do jumps where you can refuel, otherwise you'll drop out of hyperspace with no fuel and you'll be stuck. Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:00
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so Sure. But the lesson is interrupted by pirates. Vane has come back with five more. Yes. Including a shy dop, which was, okay, this jumps back to, again, the episode we had Jessica on for, which was chapters 15 and 16, when in the believer, they're going to to get the location of Moff Gideon from the Rhydonium plant. Yes, yeah, yeah.
00:42:30
Speaker
And they were attacked by what? Somebody, I can't remember who called them pirates. Somebody called them pirates anyway. Mayfeld called them pirates. Mayfeld called
Pirate Chase & New Characters Excitement
00:42:40
Speaker
them pirates, yeah. And I think on that podcast episode, we discussed as to whether they were even pirates. Because if they're pirates, pirates usually plunder and steal. They're trying to steal stuff. But these pirates were just trying to blow up the Rhydonium. And I think we came to the conclusion that maybe they were trying to stop it getting into the Empire. I don't know.
00:42:58
Speaker
I never felt like pirates would do that, so maybe they weren't pirates. but But they did look like pirates, and this race evidently has pirates among them because there's one flying one of the fighters. I just thought I'd sort of circle back to that episode. Excellent. Rather than just like, oh there's a shy dop. We learned that the other day. It's like, there's a shy dop. We've seen them in the context of the pirates.
00:43:21
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Maybe. Maybe they were pirates. Yeah. We get a fairly classic asteroid field chase. Amazing. Amazing. Dogfight. Some pretty fast ships. The N1 is like all over the place. so cool.
00:43:35
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I think this is, yeah, my music favourite moment is during this dogfight. There's just like a really epic horn rendition of yeah the Mando theme. Yeah, there is.
00:43:46
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Super high energy and beautiful. It Brogu's just giggling the entire time. Yeah, he does not get phased by combat. No. He's just never easily concerned. I think he knows, like, Din is just going to wipe the floor with these guys. Yes. Which he sort of, like, he takes a few out, or one or two, i think. Yeah.
00:44:07
Speaker
But then... Big ship. We emerge from behind, yeah, an asteroid to see this giant capital ship, which is so cool. What a cool-looking ship. It's huge. Which is captained by Gorian Shard, a walking lump of moss. What do you...
00:44:24
Speaker
ah Or seaweed is what I thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what seaweed is. i thought i think I thought seaweed because pirate burn percent Yeah, 100%. Yeah, of course. What is he? I don't know. i didn't look it up. It's not somebody that I've ever seen before. Okay. Should we a live Google? A live Google? give minute. It's not the first time we've done a live Google on this podcast. We have started to recently do a bit of on the fly. on the fly research. Research because, you know, you can't cover everything.
00:44:55
Speaker
So when he spoke, I thought I recognised his voice. So I went to look him up. Yeah. Turns out he's in Game of Thrones, which might be why I recognise his voice. Along with half the cast. Yeah, the Star Wars Game of Thrones crossover. Yeah. He's a perfect voice cast. Oh, it's so good.
00:45:17
Speaker
It just says on Wikipedia, Gorin Shard was a male individual of a plant-like species. Great. so Thanks, Wikipedia. In other words, we don't know. That makes me feel better because it means, like, it's not that we didn't do our research, it's just there is no research to be is no yeah. I feel like back in the day when I watched this the first time, I think I looked him up then because I was like, oh, what's this species I've never seen before? Because that's how my brain survives. Yeah.
00:45:40
Speaker
Day to day. And I seem to remember like discovering. Now, what my brain didn't do is when I watched this last night at about nine o'clock, yeah I noticed an alien on the bridge oh as Shard is walking around. There's an alien that looks like a warthog yeah with like a hairy long face with like little tusk things.
00:46:03
Speaker
And I was like, I remember those from the role-playing game. So that can be West End Geek Girls for this week. So I went through my books and I trawled and I could not find it. I'm sure it was in Jabba's Palace. So eventually, like after about three hours, this late at night, you know, when your brain stops like working efficiently. yeah And I'm on my laptop, which is trying to update Adobe Acrobat. while i like you know So i eventually remembered, oh, let's just Google this thing and find out what it is, because that's what Wikipedia is for. sure And it was created for this episode, I think. Oh. And we've seen one since in Skeleton Crew, which, spoiler alert, might be where we see Vane again. is it's Skeleton Crew is very piratey. You can guess from the name. Yeah, that makes sense. Skeleton But yeah, so we may even see this same guy.
00:46:57
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don't think this race existed before this episode of Mandel, think. But, listener, if you think I'm wrong, give us a shout. Yes, tell us. Send us a DM. Tell us.
00:47:12
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Well, he does a runner. Yeah, I don't blame him. Wiz is probably uses like the high speed boost. Yeah, he uses his booster. Yeah. And then jumps pretty much at the same time. I couldn't tell what was just yeah yeah sublight boost and what was hyperspace like. Yeah, a bit of both.
00:47:27
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Bit blurry. yeah And now he's heading to Kalavela, which is
Bo-Katan's Character Development
00:47:35
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in the Mandalorian system. I didn't realise it was actually in the Mandalorian system.
00:47:39
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yeah Apparently the exterior of this planet, as he's coming into land and we can see the castle, That includes, well, whether it's wraparound volume footage or how they did it, it's off the west coast of the Isle of Skye, place called Naced Point, which I've been to the Isle of Skye a few times. I love it there. And maybe the reason i love it is because I'd secretly like to live there.
00:48:06
Speaker
In a castle. Yeah. It's quite lonely though, isn't it? On your own, yeah. I think she could at least... done with Like even the protocol droid doesn't go in. It's like it knows not to... Leave her be. Very pretty droid though. It's like a kind of aquamarine kind of bluey colour.
00:48:24
Speaker
If I had a droid, it would be that colour. That colour. It is a good colour for a droid. Yeah. So as they're going in, Mando's talking to Grogu, telling him about where they are, telling him about the castle.
00:48:35
Speaker
Yeah. And then my note for this bit was, Bo-Katan's just been a little b******. She's just wallowing. yeah She is. She's absolutely indulging herself. Yeah. yeah Very, very self-indulgent. She's doing the queer, I can't sit on a chair straight thing. Classic yearning. Yeah. I'm off. I'm going to just... You have to sit sideways. Come and do something's got to happen at some point. I'm going to wait here until everyone realises how pissed off I am. Yeah. She's such a drama queen at this point. So dramatic.
00:49:12
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I mean, to be fair, she's been through some twists and turns. She's had some really terrible stuff happen to her, so I'm going to let her off. She's brooding. But yeah, she has really bailed on the whole project. Like all her crew has gone off. Yeah, yeah. Her army and her fleet, they're just being mercenaries around the galaxy. Yeah. Which I don't really blame them. She tells Din to go and lead them. You lead them then.
00:49:36
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Yeah, so moody. My note was, i kind of get it but also find a new goal, girl. What are you doing? Yeah. Stop. Because yeah I thought when you know she got that cruiser yeah off Gideon, you know, like, it's going to be well for her. She had some good mates. Obviously that didn't work out. Yeah.
00:49:58
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She even makes digs about Children of the Watch and says how them and the other groups gave up on Mandalore before the purge even happened. It's all making out that she was the last one there, which she possibly was. We don't know yet. yeah But yeah, Mando explains his plan. He's still determined. She's just being so negative. She is. She's not having any of it. Yeah, she's contradicting herself. Mando sort picks her up on the fact that like you said this and now you're saying this. and She's just past the point of caring.
00:50:28
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yeah But she tells him where the mines were, which is really all he needs to know. yeah That they're under the civic centre in Sundari or what's left of Sundari. Yeah. So now he knows. He knows. He's now got a mission. And we are again, i remember thinking, well, that'll be the episode eight of this season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then episode two comes out. to The Minds of Mandalore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. That was quick.
00:50:53
Speaker
Oh my gosh, we're going in. Where else are we going in this series? so fun. love it. There is a lot happening. she's really What does she say to him as he walks out the door?
00:51:05
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can't remember. She just says goodbye to him, I think, but in a really like... Sarky way. I'm just going to go back to my lounging sideways. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lounge sideways are a bit longer. i i know the feeling about being too queer to sit on a chair probably because I am, but like I'm also, I couldn't possibly be me. I can't brood that well. No, no. I could, yeah. I'd get bored too fast. I think in my earlier life I might have done. I remember, yeah, when I was 13 I could do it. I think maybe when I was 20 I would have done, I'm ashamed to say.
00:51:40
Speaker
May well have few times. know, it was far too chaotic at 20. Yeah. But yeah, Bo-Katan is probably my age, maybe.
00:51:50
Speaker
Yeah. But she's, you know, like I say, she has been through some stuff. She's been through some stuff. Yeah, we'll let her off. She's been through some stuff, yeah. She's going to redeem herself, yeah. Yeah. So how are you enjoying season three based on this episode so far?
00:52:03
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Ah, ah this this episode's full of lots of interesting, intrigue-y bits. We're setting up lots of story. We've got some great new little characters. Yes. Mostly in The Undellants. Yeah. Literally little characters. They're so cute. don't know. I do love these pirates too. I love a pirate. I quite like the pirates. I did hope when Grief started talking about pirates, I did hope that it was going to be Eliode Marikovania, that particular pirate from the right Aftermath. Because I know they got Cobb Vanth out of the books. Yeah, thought maybe they've got Eliode. I'm waiting for Eliode to pop up. She's been in a comic since.
00:52:41
Speaker
I think. Okay. but Not yet in a live action. Yeah. No, I thought this was a really nice setup and, well, I binged them, didn't I? So I watched the first five episodes in one go. caught you. So it definitely caught my attention. I'm so excited to watch them all because this is i like Book of Boba Fett, I've only seen this once before. so this is new new, not new territory, but newish territory to me. can remember as it unfolds, I'm like, oh yeah, i remember. I remember this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:09
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I mean, I only watched it last Thursday and I was still like, can't remember. But because I binge watched it, it was like I needed to separate what happened when. Totally.
Excitement for Future Episodes
00:53:19
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But yeah, we'll be back for episode two, chapter 18 next week, which I'm very much looking forward to.
00:53:29
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We've got a little Nando recorder. I'm only just learning how to replay my recorder. Yeah.
00:53:38
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Ludwig would be cheering you on. There you go. That's all you're getting. That's good enough for me. We'll build on it. it would help if I knew where the notes were. and follow us on the platforms. Yeah.
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