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Delving into THE MANDALORIAN Chapter 18 | 024
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Join Branwen and Seah as they deep dive into all things Star Wars. Follow along as we fly off exploring all the wonders and geekery of a Galaxy Far, Far Away, chatting nostalgia, worlds, lore, sound, music, story, behind the scenes, and much more with each other and some very special guests.
This season, we're on a rewatch of The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett in the run-up to the release of "The Mandalorian and Grogu" in cinemas in May.
In our twenty-fourth episode we're continuing through The Mandalorian, with Season 3, Chapter 18 "The Mines of Mandalore". We talk about themes, performances, story details, speeders, R5 serving in the rebellion, spelunking, what on earth the cyber creature that lives in the remains of Sundari is, some epic musical storytelling, and much more. Watch out for our brand new segment "West End Geek Girls", which now has a little theme tune!
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Favorite Mandalorian Quote Discussion
00:00:15
Speaker
Hey, Bramwen. Hello. What is your favourite line from The Mandalorian Chapter 18? I honestly think it's adorable that you actually believe these children's stories.
00:00:27
Speaker
Nice. I mean, i could have gone for any one of Peli's lines. Yeah.
00:00:35
Speaker
I had that one written down as well. I wasn't going to go for it. i wasn't sure what I was going to do. but ah Okay, yeah. Could have been that. See ya. Hello. What's your favourite line from The Mandalorian, Chapter 18? Okay, I've got two.
00:00:49
Speaker
One of them is, ugh, boring! yeah And the other is, sorry, pal, no chance cubes. Yes, Peli. We love Peli.
00:01:03
Speaker
we do love Peli.
Introduction to 'Sisters of the Force' Podcast
00:01:06
Speaker
ah You're listening to Sisters of the Force and we are Star Wars podcast hosted by me, Bramwen. And me, see ya. And I just changed the intro for no reason. did. I like it. Carry What's wrong with it?
00:01:19
Speaker
Today we're continuing our journey through the Mandoverse, having done all of Mandalorian Season 1 and 2 and all of the Book of Boba Fett, which has been an amazing marathon.
00:01:30
Speaker
And we're on to Chapter 18, The Minds of Mandalore. duund du du d deum Which is, yeah, like, I mean, a title. What a title. As an fs episode title, I think we were all quite fired up at the time. Yeah, that makes sense. We're doing this already? Already,
Rachel Morrison's Directorial Achievements
00:01:50
Speaker
yeah. Yeah, you said last time that it was it felt a bit like we've now got a mission for the end of the series. And no No, this is it. We're going straight in. Episode two, straight in. Let's go.
00:02:03
Speaker
This was directed by Rachel Morrison, who I didn't know anything about, but looked her up and she was the first woman to be nominated for an Academy Award for Best Cinematographer. Oh, that's exciting. That is pretty cool. Yeah. And she did loads of films in like the early 2010s that were all at the Sundance Festival ok consecutively year after year. wow.
00:02:28
Speaker
And she was cinematographer on Black Panther as well. Was she? Wow, that's such a challenging film to make. Yeah, quite. The kind of world building in that is incredible. Yeah, that's one that I've actually seen. Yeah. It's an amazing movie. I think I'm about to do re-watch, actually. Ooh, exciting. It's a bit sad watching it now, though. Yeah. A bit hard, but still, is a classic, and I'm glad it's there for all time.
Cinematography and Note-taking Challenges
00:02:54
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Of course.
00:02:55
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But yeah, I feel like she was a great choice for this. I hadn't noticed until I actually looked her up and realised that she was a cinematographer. i hadn't realised how much cinematography plays an important part Oh, there's a more.
00:03:09
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Loads of interesting stuff. To the point where I found myself making note after note about cinematography. Yeah, yeah. To the point where it's now got its own colour scheme in my notes. Excellent. Previously it's only been like general notes, sound, dialogue and music. Now we've got a colour for cinematography. I wish I had a colour scheme, but I'm ah using pencils in a notebook. You're analogue. I'm very analogue about this. Which is beautiful. it's because my screen's too small. Yeah. I can't be watching an episode and doing notes at the same time. Well, this is it. I've got my laptop on my lap when i'm watching. I've got glasses half on doing that really annoying thing because I'm old and I'm trying to like type faster than I can watch. And it's made me realise again how quick everything happens. Oh, this is yeah. Yeah.
00:03:57
Speaker
I had to pause so many times this morning just to write the thing down. And then yeah my notes are illegible. I keep going back 30 seconds and my parents are like rolling their eyes. Yeah, yeah. Having having already watched these episodes before, they're now like, oh, we're watching them again. And you'll rewind them as we go. Yeah, yeah. be fair, my mum loves it. she likes She's not like, oh, yeah, actually, I wanted to see that bit again. Yeah. Perfect.
00:04:21
Speaker
Excellent. Yeah.
Pelly's Character and Language Mix
00:04:24
Speaker
I'd forgotten that we see Pelly at the beginning. Straight in Straight in with Pelly. I love her much. Every time she's on the screen, I love her a little bit more. She's only in this like introduction bit, isn't she? Yeah. It's just a cold open. Yeah. But she eats the whole thing. Yeah.
00:04:40
Speaker
but she like eats the whole thing yeah I wrote down pretty much everything she said. yeah me too. She's purring like a nozzle shrew was the other one that really liked.
00:04:50
Speaker
Ghost trip another speeder. It's Boonta Eve. It's ripe. Yeah.
00:04:56
Speaker
Yeah, she is incredible. I love the chance cubes thing. I only noticed that like this morning I was found the online transcript for it because I needed to check a few things I typed quickly and handspelled very well. Yeah, yeah. And I noticed that last night. must have missed that. So throwaway. She's very naturalistic. Even though she's a larger-than-life character, yeah she somehow makes it all feel very natural and throwaway, which is really weird. I don't know how to explain that because it's like a contradiction. Yeah.
00:05:26
Speaker
It must be even harder to do that because you are essentially talking gibberish. Like these aren't things that you would say in everyday life. She's not an actor that's known for sci-fi either. Most of the stuff I've seen her in has been very real and naturalistic. And then suddenly you're a mechanic, which is quite a character with language. yeah know Language-wise, mechanics always get the hard jobs because they have to like... No one over the path. Yeah.
00:05:56
Speaker
I love that we got to see Boon to Eve as well. Yeah. Until this point, I don't think we'd... Have we not seen it? I don't think we knew what Boon to Eve even was. Obviously, it name checked in the Phantom Menace. Phantom Menace, yeah.
00:06:08
Speaker
The Boon to Eve classic. Maybe it was in one of the computer games at the time or something. I don't know. But this is the first time we've properly seen it in a TV show film. cool And it looks fun. Like there's just people racing around the town in speeders and the sound design. We just see like the bigger lot overhead shot. There's like a kind of jiji chi chijioooooo yeah classic sounds.
00:06:33
Speaker
Yeah. Makes you prick your ears up going, ooh. It does. What is this? What is super interesting is that the vehicle that she's got, I couldn't really see in the overhead shot what it was. It sounded like pod racers to me. Yeah. But the vehicle that she's currently like scamming. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:49
Speaker
Yeah,
Influence of Role-playing Games on Star Wars Canon
00:06:50
Speaker
total scamming. Which I love. So I'm from. It's like a regular speeder rather than a pod racer. It's like a land speeder. Oh!
00:07:01
Speaker
Oh my God, we are less than seven minutes in. We are straight in. be fair, most of the rest of this episode is Mandalore and that didn't exist when the Robin Hood was the end. Very, very good Well made. So there's not a lot to pick from there. So I thought I'd better get something from this. Get it right early. Pre-credits. All right.
00:07:23
Speaker
In case you've never listened before you wonder what earth is going on, this is a little segment we call West End Geek Girls where... I go very geeky and delve into the West End games role-playing game of Star Wars, which I played when I was at school way back when. And we find things that have sort proliferated, proliferated, proliferated, whatever that word is. Proliferated, you're right. Proliferated into the contemporary Star Wars canon from those humble origins of the late 80s.
00:07:57
Speaker
And a lot of these things are to do with naming. yeah a lot of the stuff that we've had so far have been like alien races and things like that that were named by the creators of Western Games. So I had pondered about doing Rodian, but I'm sure Rodians are going to come up at some point. But I thought I would do a little thing about repulsor lifts because okay I don't know that they were called repulsor lifts before the role-playing game. o Historically speaking, the only thing that predated the role-playing game was the original trilogy yeah and a couple of books that are now no longer canon. But I don't think any of that. I even dug out my original novelisation of Star Wars of course and started skimming through it this morning. i was trying to find if it mentioned Repulsiveness. You can't control find in there, can you? No, I didn't. My brain was like, where's the control left? But yeah, it didn't. I'm i'm sure it's online somewhere. But yeah, I thought that maybe repulsor lift was a term.
00:08:55
Speaker
So if you're a listener and you know for a fact that repulsor lift is a term came around before, then let us know. Yeah. Tell us. But as far as I know, repulsor lift became this terminology.
00:09:08
Speaker
I'll read what it says about repulsors. So we're talking about land speeders in this instance, but it covers lots of other things from carts that you push things around on to even like starships have repulsors on to help them land. There's all sorts of places where repulsors come up. So since the development of repulsor lift technology, most other forms of atmospheric propulsion have been supplanted by this cleaner, quieter and more efficient mode of energy conversion. This is what we need. We need this in the real world.
00:09:36
Speaker
Some manufacturers maintain that repulsor lifts have made primitive engines such as combustible, atomic and nuclear obsolete. While it's still possible to obtain primitive engine vehicles, the vast majority of atmospheric transportation is handled by repulsor lift craft.
00:09:50
Speaker
So here we go, the technical bit. This is the bit I was really interested in. Go on. Repulsor lifts levitate vehicles via anti-gravitational emanations called repulsor fields that propel vehicles by forming a field of negative gravity that pushes against the natural gravitational field of a planet.
00:10:10
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Okay. Boom. Boom. So that's how they work. It's easy. yeah This is an audio medium, so you can't see the panicked expressions that went across my face just then. I don't understand.
00:10:27
Speaker
I don't think anybody really does, but I love how West End games always did come up with this sort of pseudoscience thing, which is a bit against the kind of nature of Star Wars in a way. Like George Lucas was just like, no, it's fast. You know, we don't know how it works. It doesn't matter. But when it's a role-playing game, you kind of have to do that.
00:10:45
Speaker
yeah. Land speeders are basically any light-duty surface transport vehicles that rely upon repulsive of propulsion. Many also use turbo-thrust propulsion engines for additional speed. I'm guessing that's what's going on at Boon to Eve. Probably.
00:10:58
Speaker
These craft hover approximately one metre above the surface and attain speeds of up to 250 kilometres an hour. Some newer models are capable of even higher speeds. Whoa. ah Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, let's have some examples. Many manufacturers... This why love the role-playing game. I get So into it. so many Many manufacturers produce a wide range of models, but the most popular include Bespin Motors Void Spider TX3, the Abrickian the Mobket Deluxe,
00:11:30
Speaker
And the new Sorosub XP38, which I'm going to add in, you're remembering in New Hope when Luke and Ben go to sell Luke's Landspeeder, you don't see the sale happening. You just see this kind of like insectoid alien counting the money. Counting the money. yeah Yeah, yeah, And they're walking away and Luke says, I can't believe we managed to get as much as we did ever since the new XP38 came out. Blah, blah, blah, blah. blah So this is where West End games pick those tiny details.
00:11:58
Speaker
They make them real and put them in a book. And then 40 years later... We talk about it. Favreau's nicking it.
00:12:09
Speaker
Oh my gosh. The reason I also chose this as well, apart from it just being a cool little background detail of this episode, yeah is that you may or may not know that there's a new game coming out this year. oh Fuse Games are creating it and Lucasfilm Games and Secret Mode publishing it. It's called Star Wars Galactic Racer. There's no date yet, but it does say 2026, so it's on the way. and does seem as though I might be buying a PS5 at some point. It looks amazing. Like they just shared some gameplay not long ago and it's incredible. So it's a set in this era, like 5ABY. Yeah.
00:12:48
Speaker
Racing in the unsanctioned Galactic League in the New Republic era. And it's got a campaign mode. So you're like playing a story, which I'm guessing is, I bet there'll be elements of it in the TV stuff at some point. They'll like make some little links as they Yeah, yeah. Cool. But you can also play player versus player. So, know, if you're hooked up. Yeah. But in that, I think you fly a speeder, look very much like the one that this Rodian is trying to get fixed.
00:13:17
Speaker
Poor Rodian. He just wanted get where he was going and he's been done over by Pelly and the Jawas. I loved seeing this Rodian like and hearing the Rodian's voice. Yeah.
00:13:31
Speaker
Today, you're listening to this five weeks from now, unfortunately, but today I listened to Blast Points just put out an episode that's just about Greedo's voice and it's absolutely wild. Excellent. It was just a coincidence that this is the episode that we haven't been covering. We're talking about yeah. some of the most Rodian speech that we've heard in a long time. Yeah. In a long time. a long time. Excellent. Excellent. There's a lot of interesting sound stuff. I've noticed the pit droid chitter, which I don't think I've ever really yeah like checked out before. it's Obviously, we've heard it loads of times in Phantom Menace and then in Mandalorian, but it's such a great little... They've got like a little language of their own. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They talk to each other. Yeah. But it's it's different to normal binary though, isn't it?
00:14:15
Speaker
Yeah. sound very different. Yeah, that's right. I mean, I'm going to talk about R5 later on and his sound similar to R2's, but not. Not the same, yeah. Whereas these are very different. Again, these are almost like little rodents or something. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
00:14:29
Speaker
Yeah. Chipmunk pit droids. They get a lot of nice little background moments in this opening. Like there's one thatques plly i know she's doing a paused i that He says two for two months yeah when the Rodian asks how long it's going to take. yeah So good.
00:14:46
Speaker
And another one does the thumbs up when she says, is he gone? Yeah. She is, oh, I just love how, like, I just relate to her so much. Yeah.
00:14:58
Speaker
I would dream of being that kind of confident yeah yeah or projecting that level of projected confidence. Projecting confidence. Because she isn't at We don't know whether she actually is. but She's very Neuro-spicy. When she says, you know, I don't just sit around here and work all day. I'm very popular. you, Belly?
00:15:15
Speaker
Are you? Do just hang out with your pit droids playing cards and... I think the thing you could say about her is she knows who she is kind of thing. She can project all she likes, but she seems to be quite comfortable with who she is. Oh yeah, for sure.
00:15:31
Speaker
Which is great. She's a hustler. She is a hustler. So then Mando turns up in yeah back in his Starfighter. Yeah, and there's another thing, the pit droid. There's a pit droid with the two little things waving and bringing him in.
00:15:47
Speaker
I think I've noticed that before. Yeah, I think he's done it in a previous episode. Yeah, I think he does it quite a lot. I think there's there's normally a pit droid getting them in. And then, yeah, we get incredible, fast-paced dialogue of, no, I cannot get you what you want.
00:16:02
Speaker
And she speaks Joey's again, which is so... Yes. and Did you notice she speaks? ro Okay, so people who don't live in Wales don't necessarily even realise there's a Welsh language.
00:16:13
Speaker
Newsflash, there is a Welsh language. There a Welsh language. lot people speak it. It's a very ancient Celtic language. And lots of people who speak Welsh, they kind of speak very fluently, but occasionally they'll drop an English word in, especially if it's a newer term yeah for something that hasn't got a Welsh name yet. yes so you hear I've heard Hindi speakers do that as well. in India where they just speak in India but occasionally you get an English word so she's doing the equivalent of that with Jawaese and basic yeah where she just goes buth bla blah blah blah bla memory circuit blah blah blah
00:16:46
Speaker
Which means there's either no word for memory circuit in Chowat East, which I'm guessing there is. It's more likely that she just doesn't know it. She just doesn't know it, yeah. Like when I'm speaking Welsh, I'm forever like, I don't know that word. know that word, going to drop this in.
00:16:58
Speaker
Yeah, me and my sister spent ages trying to work out what and what waterproof trousers were in Welsh, and we just couldn't do it. So we were just running around going, through so seek dry trousers rather than waterproof trousers.
00:17:11
Speaker
we're just kidding We couldn't do and we don't I still don't know what. If you know what Welsh for waterproof is, please let me know because I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Didur. Didur. Didur.
00:17:22
Speaker
Something like that. Yeah. Any Welsh listeners are now shouting at their phones. Trusas dimdur.
00:17:32
Speaker
And the Germans seem to understand Pelly because they're like having a right old debate with her. But it doesn't look good. No. Which Mando's gutted about. He's got to go and do some spelunking, which I had to Google. You had to Google spelunking. Oh my God, this is one of my favorite words. It's a great word.
00:17:47
Speaker
I love the word spelunking. I am terrified of actual spelunking. Me too. and But i could say spelunking all day. yeah It's such a fun word for such a terrifying thing. Yeah, such a serious sounding hobby or Is it a hobby? What is happening? know. Why would you go as belonging?
00:18:11
Speaker
I mean, it's that much of a weird word that I thought it must be a Star Wars term. Really? Which is why I Googled it. And then i was like, oh no, it's actually a thing. Don't watch enough horror, clearly. Yeah, that be that's the
Mando's Droid Needs and Peli's Persuasion
00:18:23
Speaker
reason. Yeah. So Mando needs a droid that's going to help him to go caving is basically what's belonging to this. So Peli starts gaslighting R5-D4 who is not keen. Yes, instantly.
00:18:40
Speaker
R5-D4 is as good as the day it came back from serving in the rebellion. Yeah. R5's like, what? What are you on about? I mean, there is that whole chapter in, from a certain point of view, Star Wars edition, which we mentioned before, where R5 knowingly did what it did to help R2 achieve his goal of like finding Obi-Wan Kenobi. But even with that in mind, i don't does that qualify as like serving in the rebellion?
00:19:07
Speaker
I guess. Not entirely, maybe. Serving on the edge of the rebellion, maybe. Yeah. He's a terrified droid. He's very scared. He's a poor little droid, yeah. I'd quite like to have R5 and look after him. Yeah.
00:19:22
Speaker
And she just pats him on the head and he falls apart. Yeah. Next thing, he's up in the end one. Oh, I'll reinstate your droid port. Off we go. Yeah. And we see that this is the first cinematography note I made is as R5 pops up, we're seeing the fireworks of Boonta Eve reflecting in the top of the Naboo fighter and and off R5-D4 himself, I think. Yeah.
00:19:47
Speaker
How to make an opening sequence pop. Let's have it as Boone to Eve. Yeah, let's do it like that. My whole note on this was this is such a fun opening for then what is quite a serious episode after this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's very little comedy after this point. I think maybe that is like a fan-fro thing of like, well, we've got to get some fun into this. Yeah, sure. So let's just have a long cold open with Pelly. Can't go wrong. Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:11
Speaker
Because there are a whole host of reasons why he didn't really need to do all of this. yeah Why is he obsessed with taking IG? How did he even take an IG with him anyway? Yeah, yeah, he can't fit him in the N1. So he has to go all the way to Tatooine just to get a fairly broken down yeah half five unit.
00:20:30
Speaker
well But it if it means we get Peli, then that's great. I'll have all of the Peli. She drops a May the Force Be With You. She does. If we don't see her in the film, I'm going to be really sad.
00:20:41
Speaker
Yeah, me too, actually. i think she's the only thing I would really hope to see and think that there's a good chance that we would. Yeah. We'll see. got a funny feeling we might not, but it will feel wrong if we don't.
00:20:54
Speaker
But she's the best. Yeah. To wrap up the cold open, Mando's got that brilliant line, all right, kid, you ready for an adventure? Yes. Which is just lush, just a brilliant way to go to opening titles. Yeah. We're on an adventure. We're going spelunking. are literally on an adventure.
00:21:14
Speaker
On a pretty inhospitable planet. And it hasn't encouraged me to want to go spelunking myself. No. At all. ah I have been, we'll talk about this when we get to it. Ignore me. All right. Okay. Bye.
00:21:28
Speaker
We'll get there. I've got things. Okay. We have two approaches to Mandalore in this episode. Yeah. And they are both kind of narrated yeah by the lead character at the time. Yes. once ah Both times to Grogu, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they show very different sides to these two characters. And I feel like the whole rest of this episode, apart from all the interesting tourist of Mandalore stuff going on, yeah It's a lot about the difference between the Children of the Watch yes and bokkatan Bo-Katan's crew, whoever they may be calling themselves at this point.
00:22:07
Speaker
And they're very different. They're both two different sides of Mandalore. Yeah. And I think it's brilliant writing how we get this sequence of like perspectives throughout the episode, which culminate in that final twist of one of them like flipping over to the other side. Yeah.
00:22:24
Speaker
yeah suddenly becoming a believer because she couldn't do anything but that. Yeah. Really interesting. Like what would it take for Bo-Katan to overcome her... Cynicism. Cynicism is a really good word, yeah. I was going to say prejudice, but cynicism not good it. very cynical at that point.
00:22:41
Speaker
Yeah, i don't I don't feel like she's prejudiced to him particularly. No, not really. Maybe she might have been even... Well, some of her acts was a little bit in The Duchess. Is it The Duchess? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, she she is just very, very cynical. She's reached that point of like, I've messed everything up. And she's almost yeah being forced to face all of that by having to come to Mandalore.
00:23:04
Speaker
Yeah. So on this first approach... Mando is talking to Grogu and he says, it was once green and beautiful back when the songs were written.
Mando's Romantic View of Mandalore
00:23:13
Speaker
Yeah. And I thought he's got all the romance in his heart. Yeah. And he's like pointing out Concordia and Calavala. Yeah, I grew up over there. You need to learn how to read maps.
00:23:23
Speaker
Yeah. He's just like fully in He's going home. he is going home. Yeah. It's really beautiful. Yeah. There's a really lovely music cue there as well. I think it's Grogu's theme. Oh, yeah. Like he's kind of learning. Yeah, he's teaching him how to read the maps and read the scopes and stuff. And then we're straight into this thunderstorm. Yeah, i this is where I started like making massive cinematography notes. Have we seen much rain? We very rarely fly through rain in Star Wars, do we?
00:23:51
Speaker
No, not full rain. I think we saw some on Kamino, but I don't know we... I don't think we flew through it. Maybe not much. Anyway, brief shot maybe. And Luke flying onto Dagobah. Yeah.
00:24:03
Speaker
Probably in the animated shows, but not in much in the live action. So it was, yeah it was pretty wild. It was really heavy rain, yeah like as they went through the clouds. Some really, really clever use of the volume for this. And they must have had practical rain yeah to like throw out the M1 cockpit. Yeah.
00:24:23
Speaker
The ship lights kind of illuminate the rain in a really particular way, but like it's all very foggy as well, so they must have loads of like fog or haze or whatever. Just taking a load of smoke machines. In the studio with wind machines, just everything firing on all cylinders.
00:24:37
Speaker
Yeah. But then suddenly through the clouds and spectacular like wide shots of the surface with this kind of green, scorched, glassy devastation. Yeah, which we've seen before because we've seen his tablet, haven't we? Yeah.
00:24:51
Speaker
But like to see a massive landscape of it yeah is wild. Yeah. And it's a planet that we've seen in the animated shows ok ah multiple times. And we've seen it in Mandalorian or in The Book of Boba Fett, but like as it's being destroyed. But we've never seen like, well, this absolute wreck of a planet, I guess.
00:25:14
Speaker
It's kind of got a beauty to it. Yeah. But it's very dark. Yeah. Definitely dead. Yeah. Or pretty dead. Yeah. We get a lovely little bit of Mando exposition. Yeah. Because... Just filling us in. We need to know that they're cut off from the rest of the galaxy. yes So he's got to say it out loud to Grogu. Just sew this plot point in. Grogu's really helpful, actually, to things. Yeah, it's like having a non a non-speaking character yeah who needs to learn. yeah Like, we are Grogu every step of the way.
00:25:48
Speaker
yes Yeah, it kind of sets the stakes, I suppose. And we are, yeah, we're sort of trapped in this little world, I guess. Yeah. Which R5 is not happy about. No. I don't think Grogu's very happy. He looks out the window the green. No, he looks he's a bit kind of, yeah, he's a bit unsure about the whole thing really, isn't he? Yeah. He also seems to feel a bit bad for sending out there on his own. Yeah, I think that's it. He's watching R5 disappear off and it's no fun whatsoever. Yeah. Sound design wise, R5's, motors sound just like to me. I think they've got a library of astromech. Yes, this is what astromechs sound like. Yeah. Unless you're a particularly creepy one that grows arms. Yeah.
00:26:30
Speaker
I am not over that droid. never going to happen. Yeah, ah but his voice, I mean, as we know, pretty much every astromech has its own little dialect, which is so Ben Burtt and so Star Wars. I love it.
00:26:46
Speaker
This one is probably the closest to R2s we've ever got. Yeah. Probably because it was only the second astromech we ever met. Yes, good point. It's got more ring modulator, I think, if you want to get technical. Yeah. It's got like, I bet it's R2's library, but just stuck through a kind of variable ring modulator. through a ring modulator. Yeah, I think that's what's going on.
00:27:06
Speaker
Yeah. So any music tech geeks out there, we'll know ring modulators. like It takes parts of the frequency range, yeah pitches if you like, and adds them together or subtracts them to make new frequencies. And it ends up sounding like a bit warbly. The Daleks daleks are ring modulators.
00:27:26
Speaker
Yeah. anything that you put through a ring modulator, it sounds like a Dalek. So does that mean that R5 is it is a Dalek version of
00:27:36
Speaker
Oh my gosh, maybe. Wow. These worlds need to stop colliding. I'm very confused. Yeah. We've had some Daleks and Cybermen before in the last season. Yes. yeah So confused. It turns out that Din can seal his helmet, which I didn't know that you could do that. No, I had a note about that. I said, is there anything this armour can't do at this point? Yeah, I mean, I think I just assumed it always would be, but then...
00:28:05
Speaker
Yeah, there's been lots of different sort visual information that I've noticed in Rebels especially because one of the main characters is was a Mandalorian in that. So we saw Sabine taking her helmet off and putting it on. And even in that series, Ezra, who's not Mandalorian, but he is a collector of trooper helmets.
00:28:24
Speaker
And whenever he puts them on, they sort of do up in different ways. And we've seen Kylo Ren and we've seen Vader's helmet and all of those different helmets work in different ways. But they... Sometimes you hear that air sealing thing. Yes. And sometimes you don't. You don't, yeah. And I think I always just thought, because troopers are sealed. Yeah. And they have like filters, don't they, to sort of filter out smoke.
00:28:46
Speaker
Yeah. So Finn said in The Force Awakens. Yeah. But Mandalorians, I've never been quite sure much. Whether they're sealed or not. Well, sometimes he just pulls it up to drink stuff. Yeah, so he just has it on loose by way of covering his face. yeah But of course we've seen Mandalorians like flying through zero gravity space in Rebels. I don't know if we have in...
00:29:10
Speaker
Mandalorian, yeah. That one episode with Bo-Katan in season two, don't think they actually went outside the atmosphere. no they were like just still atmosphere Anyway, we have in Rebels, Sabine has definitely flown through non-breatherable atmosphere. Okay. So maybe they've got a limited supply. don't know. that they can Yeah, must have. They can do it for a little bit. Yeah.
00:29:34
Speaker
Because Bo-Katan also dives very, very deep into the water. Yeah, so she's gone watertight, which airtight and watertight are pretty much the same thing, I guess. Yeah. Lots of beautiful cinematography in the caves.
00:29:48
Speaker
Grogu's little face as he's looking through the cockpit going, oh. Yeah. What, as Mando goes off Yeah. yeah The first time. She should look worried. Yeah. It's a scary place.
00:30:01
Speaker
Yeah, there's this green lighting that's obviously coming through the glass. like The whole planet is kind of melted and formed into glass. But then there are patches above the civic centre. Once he gets into the main remains of Sundari, you can see light patches of sunlight dappling. Coming through, yeah. In through the architecture and stuff. It's just yeah incredible work. It's beautiful.
00:30:22
Speaker
Good work, Rachel Morrison. So we meet these Alamites. Yeah. Quite quickly. yeah My original note was, what are these, please? And then Bo-Katan answered it later. Yes. But they're actually quite scary. They are. They're big, chunky beasts, aren't they?
00:30:40
Speaker
ah From what I could gather, they lived outside of Mandalorian society. Like when yeah the planet was inhabited, they would live in the wilderness. Yeah. But then since they obviously survived the destruction yeah and have just come to live in the city, maybe there's stuff here for them to scavenge. I don't know. i can get yeah I've seen some terrifying horror films that have got less scary creatures than this. and Yeah, they've got very strange features. They're just very like unnatural like physique as well. like Different bits of them are bigger than should be and vice versa.
00:31:14
Speaker
quite freaky mando just about sees them off yes uses his dark saber which he's struggling with yeah it's very very heavy still not having a great time is he no with this dark saber but luckily he still his little vibra knife and yeah does a bit of fancy mandalorian brawling so he's all right he's fine and then go back to take the baby down the mine because of course yeah Well, he's discovered that it's not poisonous atmosphere. It's be breathable.
00:31:42
Speaker
Although i noticed he doesn't unseal his mask, he just brings Kroger out. Yeah. As a canary. But you we don't get the, because when he does have it pressurised, you can hear his breathing. Okay. And when he doesn't have it, and then that goes away. Ah, I didn't notice that. So I think, yeah, he's he does depressurise the helmet, I think, but we just don't see But he definitely sounds different. Right.
00:32:05
Speaker
I should be looking out for that and from now on. He goes a bit Darth Vader-y when he's pressurised it initially. And we hear his breathing. And then for that whole brawl, we can hear his breathing. And then once he's spoken to our five, that stops.
00:32:18
Speaker
Oh, wow. Gosh, you're so observant. Incredible. I'm observant in very strange ways. Yeah, I think that's possibly it, is that we both are in different ways, which is kind good. That's why we work together. It's useful.
00:32:33
Speaker
But yes, we we're off to look through these ruins and they yeah just look gorgeous. The whole, yeah all of it is stunning. Yeah. From where we see Sandari in Clone Wars, it's very like cubular, if that was such a thing. Okay, cubular. There's a lot of it boxy architecture. Everything's very like 90 degree angles and stuff. and Sure. Even though it's been trashed, we can still see traces of that.
00:32:58
Speaker
And in fact, later on in the episode, when they actually get to the mines and they sort of go into that more cave-like stuff, it still looks, I don't know if it's like just very ancient, so it's a bit crumbly, or whether it's natural formations and that maybe the natural rock formations have kind of square-like yeah and the Mandalorians copied that.
00:33:18
Speaker
Like, yeah. don't know. I'm guessing the mines were probably built by the Mandalorians. Yeah. So they're just very, very old, like ancient mines. Yeah.
00:33:30
Speaker
They do a spectacular long, what do you call it, descent. Drop down, Into city, yeah, which has become a bit of a Star Wars thing. Yes. Rebels, we saw it in Malachor when Ezra went there and Rey also doing it in the Star Destroyer at the beginning of Force Awakens and then Exegol, we have it all over
Motif of Long Descents in Star Wars
00:33:49
Speaker
again. Yes. So it's kind of a visual motif. I quite enjoyed watching Grogu do it in his little pod, though. That was quite cute. yeah ah I love the way he drives that pod.
00:34:01
Speaker
It's just a wild... Well, now having seen him in the trailer and with that little Odians pram thing, he is ah scary.
00:34:12
Speaker
He's an interesting driver. Again, babies driving. Not sure. Yeah. There's a lovely little ah circle cut classic passage of time yeah when they're exploring the games. A little wipe, a circle wipe. Yeah, yeah.
00:34:27
Speaker
ah like it. Some creatures that I don't think we have names of. Yes. They're listed on Wikipedia as reptavian creatures. Reptavian creatures? I've just put dragons. They are like little baby dragons. Yeah, yeah. glowing green eyes. we do love glowing eye. Clearly. reckon they're puppets? Because they looked quite... They did look quite puppety, didn't they? Not so much when they're flying. I think when they're in the... When they're in the sewers. Pipes and stuff, yeah. They looked quite real. Yeah.
00:34:58
Speaker
Less real later on. Yeah. And then we get this kind of... Is it a trap? Yeah. He finds a helmet sand. It looks a bit like a trap. Or I don't know. Or is it just chance? Yeah, unburying Mandalorian helmet. And by the way, we then get the recorder yeah riff yeah for the first time this episode, I think. Or at least it's very noticeable. Yeah. It's kind of a really nice musical cue. There's like some very peaceful synth ambience in the background. That's exactly what I wrote in my notes. Was it? Oh. Yeah.
00:35:30
Speaker
We're on a wavelength. The lovely music version of the theme. Oh no, it's a trap. Yeah, a full sense of security. we think it's all lovely and well, we don't actually. We think it's like a period of mourning for the dead Mandalorians. But then all of a sudden, yeah, this horrific droid.
00:35:46
Speaker
Yes. Which reminded me of the Scorpon X from the Book of Boba Fett final yeah, yeah. The Calicoid creation nest things that made buzz droids as well and the droidekas and everything. Because it has that single buzz droid eye type thing the Scorpon have. Yeah, there's something organic in there.
00:36:05
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Well, I think the big spider thing is a droid itself. And then there's like a smaller droid, which is grievous-y. It's like cyborg, cyber something, like a hybrid droid.
00:36:21
Speaker
thing yeah which has got i'd say less organics than grievous but yeah he doesn't have much so it's like it's an eye maybe it's just it's mostly just the eye isn't it but that whole thing is genuinely terrifying it's pretty gross isn't it it's quite yeah this is why you will never catch me is belonging
00:36:46
Speaker
From now on, there's chance ever. Like, even if there's remote chance that I would ever go splurking, I'm not going to go now. If there's a chance of meeting a giant mechanical spider with a cybernetic hedgehog thing inside with six legs. So gross. Or whatever it is. It's pretty disturbing.
00:37:04
Speaker
cra He really catches Din without very much effort at all. Yeah, just got him. It's got him on a... Well, it's going to eat him by the looks of it. It looks like it's extracting stuff from him some point. It's really horrible.
00:37:18
Speaker
He's put him on a spit because there's like a kind of a heating element or something that's going to start cooking him. But yeah, he's draining him of blood or something. Something. Yeah. It's pretty gross. It's so grim. I do love the sound design of this thing, though. Yeah. When it's the smaller version, I'm not so bothered about the big one, but when it's smaller and it just makes some great noises. Yeah.
00:37:42
Speaker
And visually, I think the small thing is super interesting as well because it has got these kind of weird spines on its back and too many legs. Do we know anything about this or is this mystery? Not really. No, there's very little information out there. I think it's just something for us to...
00:37:57
Speaker
Discover as we go. yeah If we ever see one again. I got the feeling it's a one-off. It feels like yeah it could be something left over from Mandalore that got corrupt when the Night of the Thousand Tears happened. and yeah Who knows? Or maybe it's just another scavengy creature that made its way here.
00:38:14
Speaker
Yeah. Later after the, I don't know, the purge. Who knows? Because a bit later on when it is trying to drain him of blood or plasma or whatever it is that he's trying to get, it's like really steampunky. It's got kind of yeah this ancient steampunky mechanical thing going on. Definitely. It's really interesting. I just wanted to know what it was and who it was and what was going on, but then there was
Mysterious Droid Encounter
00:38:36
Speaker
nothing. Yeah.
00:38:37
Speaker
It definitely felt like it was pushing Star Wars a little bit, like out of the regular stuff that you would see. yeah i mean, I know we've seen all sorts and we can definitely compare it to Grievous and we can definitely compare the bigger version to the Buzz droids, like a giant Buzz droid. So it has got some common things, but it felt quite different. I remember the first time I was watching it thinking, what on earth is this? yeah Whereas mostly when you're watching Star Wars, it's like, oh, here's another iteration of this. yeah got it But it is very different. Yeah.
00:39:06
Speaker
I mean, I felt that about the Alamites well. Like, I didn't yeah feel like they were very familiar. They felt quite RPG-ish to me. But D&D RPG rather than Star Wars what was ah rpg yeah yeah Kind of a bit Orc-ish, I guess, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Uruk-hai specifically, i think. Grogu has an amazing chase scene, which I put with his hair raising. Like, yeah I was like... Come on, Grogu, because he's being chased by the Reptavian. Then the Alamite comes after him, which he force throws out. yeah struggling you like Don't fall asleep, Grogu, keep going. And then the dragon thing has chased him outside and he just gets in. Just gets in and then hits into the thing. oh
00:39:46
Speaker
Yeah, and he's showing R5 really urgently on the thing. We're going Yeah, yeah, yeah. So R5 can navigate. It's amazing. Loved it. There's lot going on. I wrote that he's getting very independent. Yeah. Yeah, I guess this is a pretty This the first time we've seen him kind of I'm off on my own. Yeah.
00:40:05
Speaker
This wasn't like Luke putting him in an X-Wing and sending him. This him having to do it because his dad's told him, you've got to go and get Bo-Katan. Yeah. And thank goodness he told him all of the geography of the Mandalore system. Yeah.
00:40:20
Speaker
Well, if that wasn't the best bit of foreshadowing, you're going to need to know all of this, child, in approximately 40 minutes. well We see a bit more of the Isle of Skye, which yes I love because I love the Isle of Skye very much.
00:40:38
Speaker
I need to go back there so I can feel like I've been to Calaballa. My note here was we go back to see Bo-Katan. She's still being the surly emo queen of my dreams. Yeah. She's she's using a different queer pose. She's not in the recline pose. She's in the like head between the knees pose. Yes.
00:40:59
Speaker
I want to be left alone, Bo-Katan and every teenage girl ever. yeah Yeah. When actually they don't. But she really wants to go and find him. She wants to feel informed again.
00:41:09
Speaker
Yeah. As soon as she realises Grogu is on his own, yes she's like, what happened to him? Let's go. She almost looks gleeful as she's flying her ship into the atmosphere. I don't know quite what that means. Because, yeah i don't know, there's sort of like a horrified fascination that she has seeing it again. Because I'm guessing she's not seen the planet since The Purge. No.
00:41:32
Speaker
Well, she thought it was wasn't breathable. Yeah, so she wouldn't have even gone to try, I'm sure. And also just like the huge sense of failure that she has. Even if she didn't believe it was really toxic, she would use that as an excuse not to have gone back. course Because Grogu's come to get her, she can't really turn it down. So she's, yeah, it's almost like a grin of like, I'm doing this. I don't know.
00:41:56
Speaker
Yeah. She's bit less forthcoming with her exposition than Mando was. She says it didn't always look like this. i think it's the beginning of her sense of trying to regroup her pride, her Mandalorian pride, which she's absolutely left.
00:42:12
Speaker
ah Yeah. And she's trying to sort of regather it, I think. Yeah. It's quite an interesting way of talking to Grogu. I don't, because most people treat Grogu like a baby. Yeah. But she's not really doing that. But it's more of an aside to herself, isn't it yeah i was going to say, I think she's talking to herself rather than him. Yeah. Which is very different from how Mando was. Yeah.
00:42:33
Speaker
Like, Mando is so full of hope when he's going there because he's got his mission. He's determined he's going to do this. He wants to become part of Mandalore again. and Yeah, yeah. Whereas she is holding it all at arm's length and has been ever since The Purge.
00:42:46
Speaker
Yeah, she's got a lot going on. She doesn't hang about, though. They go wading in. This is my favourite music cue. Is it? Yeah, there's a little Bo-Katan fighting scary thing moment and the music is incredible. Oh. Is that when she's fighting the Alamites again? No, not the Alamites. It's when she goes to get Dent and she's... she Oh, fighting the spider droid thing. Yeah, the first face-off she has with the smaller scary one. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that when she gets the um dark saber? Yeah.
00:43:15
Speaker
Yeah, she's a little whipcord thing to put back to. And I'm all right in thinking she's not really struggling with it.
Bo-Katan's Mastery of the Darksaber
00:43:22
Speaker
No, she's fine. She's just fighting with it because...
00:43:25
Speaker
Maybe, just maybe maybe, she could be the Mandalore. This might be some subtle foreshadowing. Yeah.
00:43:36
Speaker
ah She's got a little shield. I love her little light shield. Yeah. It's really cool. And she goes she does this whole routine of, what are you saying? I can't hear you. And then he very clearly says, behind you. Yeah.
00:43:49
Speaker
The subtitles said weakly, wasn't that weak really. Yeah. That's such a pantomime thing. Again, I think we talked about this on this podcast already, actually, about what pantomime is. Maybe, maybe not. Not sure. Oh, interesting. Maybe i heard somebody else talking about it on a different podcast. we It feels familiar, but Yeah, i don't know if the US people get what pantomime and panta is. It's a very British thing. But there is one of the many, many pantomime catchphrases is, it's behind you. It's behind you. Which is what the audience call out when the bad. Anything is behind anyone. It's behind the good person, yeah. yeah Or even the other way around, yeah.
00:44:26
Speaker
Panto's so weird. Yeah, it's very strange. Not my favourite thing, if I'm perfectly honest. nice But it has lots of good things. And I quite like the it's behind do you thing. That's quite fun.
00:44:36
Speaker
no After the fight, it's all quiet as Din is recovering with his pog soup. Yes. Which he's never had before. You've never eaten pog soup? I've really noticed the city ambience. There's like some sound. It's like air movement. There's occasional creature sounds. And I noted that when...
00:44:58
Speaker
I used to teach at our local secondary school. yeah We did a play that I'd written about a character who lived in a post-apocalyptic world and I made a soundscape for what was called The Dead City and it's pretty much this exact same thing say sound design.
00:45:15
Speaker
That's so funny. Of course, there is a stereotypical dead city sound. Yeah. is What does silence sound like in a place that's been devastated and is post-apocalypse?
00:45:27
Speaker
She is very dismissive of Din, and like that line, my favourite line about saying she thinks he's adorable, that he believes it all. yeah But she quickly turns a corner and says, I'll take you.
00:45:40
Speaker
I think i I read that as I'll take you because to show to show you that it's pointless. Yeah, I thought she was kind of trying to bring him in on her yeah hopelessness of it all.
00:45:52
Speaker
I wrote that she's still being a drama queen, but I do get it. I understand. She's faced with a destructive city. yeah She is. And and like she's taken the blame for all of this. like She's just surrounded by her failure at this very moment. And it's huge. It's epic. It's the biggest. Yeah.
00:46:10
Speaker
Yeah. I think at this point as well, she is kind of starting to, she she wants to believe in something. Yeah. She is kind of. I think she's feeding off Mando a bit, like his enthusiasm, his naivete, if we want to call it that. Yeah. He's just, yeah, he's very determined and maybe she sees, oh, wow, these children of the Watch have actually got a purpose again and she's realised that she's lost purpose. She's just spent the last however many weeks on her own. Sitting queerly in a throne. with an aquamarine protocol droid for company.
00:46:45
Speaker
I want to be left alone. On the west of the Isle of Skye. This sounds ideal. can i It sounds great. i'll just I'm going. I've got lots of books to read, actually. It would be quite nice to yeah go and be left alone for a little while.
00:47:01
Speaker
But yeah, she's she's work i mean she's a work in progress here. yeah What pains me is seeing our kind fight one another time and time again. was quite a potent line, yeah I thought.
00:47:12
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think maybe that's helping her. Like, she's possibly seeing the scale of this destruction and is perhaps realising that she isn't entirely to blame because, of course, she's not. The Empire is to blame. yeah But maybe she's just beginning to realise that. yeah And, like, Mando isn't blaming her. He's just like, oh, yeah, show me minds. Yeah.
00:47:32
Speaker
He doesn't hold any kind of judgment towards her. No. so And I think we have a massive turning point, despite she's so dismissive of him and his rituals and everything. yeah But she says she's talking about her father and she says he died defending Mandalore and we get that really potent, this is the way from Din. And I think she's like, oh wow. So you you respect my side the things. yeah You respect my father for that.
00:47:58
Speaker
So maybe that's when she says, I want you to get the full tour, which again, she could be just, you know, being a bit fatuous with him. but Yeah. It doesn't feel quite so much like it at this point, though. No, it's almost like she wants to give herself the full tour again. And she wants to go and see the sign, you know, the tourist sign. yeah There's some beautiful music around that, this is the way. yeah it's It's been quite intense harmony-wise, and it's quite distant horns and stuff, and some like high strings, which are quite suspensy. But it sort resolves into this wholesome major, like a... Kind of a grand, the whole history of Mandalore in one major chord. yeah
00:48:36
Speaker
And then it goes off again, but it's like for a moment we get this clarity, which I think is possibly showing both Din acknowledging her family and her traditions and everything. And she... acknowledging his acknowledgement of that if that makes sense like they find a common ground in that major chord yeah okay maybe that's a little bit deep but you never know it's what i would do go in if i was conveying i'd be banging that in there yeah exactly that's what it's there for the music's there to give you clues as to what's going on and how we're feeling yeah I don't know if we knew before that the mines were originally mythosaur there, according to Bo-Katan's history lesson.
00:49:17
Speaker
Because that obviously is setting up what's about to happen. Yeah.
Skepticism and Intrigue about the Mythosaur
00:49:20
Speaker
But again, that's a story, isn't it? Or she thinks it's a story. Yeah, she believes it's fantasy. And I mean, we all want it to be true. We've seen the mythosaur ever since we first saw a Mandalorian yeah as part of their sigil and the symbol of Mandalore. So we want it to be real, but but we we haven't seen one yet. yeah Well, they've rule they've all been talking about it being legends and they've died out yeah and they don't exist anymore. Yeah.
00:49:49
Speaker
We saw Boba Fett riding a dinosaur in the holiday special. LAUGHTER
00:49:55
Speaker
Which is the second nearest thing. The next nearest being Boba Fett and Mando both riding a Rancor. Yeah. Which sure sort of, yeah, made me think at some point we are going to get... Maybe we'll get Mythosaur. Somebody's going to ride a Mythosaur. It's either going to be Din or Bo. I don't care which. Which one of them one of them. Both of them together can ride it. That's all good. Hmm. Yeah.
00:50:20
Speaker
They're quite big. i think they'll be fine. Yeah, they could put two on there easily. Sure. If a Rancor can, then yeah. yeah but She's quite amused that he's going in the water. There's kind of a turning point in her face at this as well, as soon as... Because she's kind of like, here it is.
00:50:35
Speaker
Wow, great, what were you yeah expecting? and It's a pool of water. He just, like, right, in we go. And he starts saying the words. And at this point, there's a shot of her where she's just kind of... Her face is changing, and I think that feels like her reawakening her own thing. Maybe that's the shot I meant.
00:50:52
Speaker
I thought she's almost amused, but almost being the operative word. Like she wants to think this is ridiculous. Yeah. But actually she's thinking he's actually doing this, isn't he?
00:51:02
Speaker
There might be something in this. She does a typical Bo-Katan thing when he like she doesn't hesitate. No, straight in. She goes straight to rescue him. yeah amazing underwater cinematography. Like, how on earth did they do this? Like, it's wild. It looks so real. and Yeah.
00:51:19
Speaker
Okay, so this is the one bit of spelunking have done was underwater. What? That's like the worst bit. I know.
00:51:31
Speaker
I know. it wasn't a scary, it wasn't a scary cave. I was told before we went into it, it was like, it's going to get dark at this point, but it does open up and it's fine. But actually, yeah, you just have to keep swimming through it. But for the listeners, Bram went shuddering. I did it and I'm really, really pleased I did it. am too. didn't even it. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was an experience that I was quite scared of.
00:52:07
Speaker
Because it's that moment when you're in the cave and you're like, ahha there's no, you can't surface here. You've got to go all the way through to surface.
00:52:17
Speaker
And that was terrifying. and so once you're in, did you have to come back out again? No. So it was a tunnel. So it was a tunnel of rock. So we went through it. Yeah. Which was. And came out the other side kind thing. Came out the other side. Yeah. But there was some little nursing sharks in there. What? So we came face to face with little nursing shark. So you're spelunking underwater and there were sharks. Yes.
00:52:41
Speaker
Oh my gosh. You are definitely worthy. This is the way. I've not done it since. Don't blame you. I was really, really happy when I came out. Yeah, I can imagine.
00:52:57
Speaker
Yeah. Terrifying. Now I've heard far too many horror stories about cave diving and never again. But yeah, this shot was beautiful and I enjoyed enjoyed watching both. sound Isn't there an X-Files episode that's about...
00:53:13
Speaker
Caves and Water. possibly. No, it's not. It's 9-1-1 Lone Star. Okay. If you do watch 9-1-1 Lone Star, don't watch the cave. Don't watch the cave. terrifying. It's just that that for like 50 minutes of horror. Anyway. Oh, terrifying. Back to the Mithasaur.
00:53:32
Speaker
I would have actually shit myself if I had seen anything like that big. It's enormous and it's like really weird looking. i mean, we love it because it's mythosaur, it very weird. And I always love these like underwater with lights yeah stuff. yeah There's a bit of that in The Phantom Menace when they're flying through the planet core.
00:53:54
Speaker
I've done lots of night diving as well and that is the best bit. I love going down with a torch. Again, terrifying. but Yeah, because you just don't know what's like on the, you can't see very far ahead. And you have to swim over things that are, you can't, you have to take a torch off them to swim over them and yeah out and' it's a lot. Oh my gosh.
00:54:12
Speaker
Well, respect to Bo-Katan for diving so deeply yes to rescue Din, who is basically useless at this point. Like, what happened to him? I assume he got knocked out on the way down. That's kind of what i assumed happened. Because he's not conscious for no this next bit, really, is he? No. Because he fell far, so I just assumed that he whacked a helmet on something. Yeah.
00:54:34
Speaker
But also bit a Yeah. just suddenly gone yeah if you're falling off a ledge his best car must be quite heavy to just pull him straight down drop him like yeah a brick and if that happens and if you're falling that deep you are gonna get yeah some form of i don't know oxygen starvation you're gonna get the bends you're gonna pass out yeah unless you're a perk it pressurized her helmet yeah Yes.
00:55:01
Speaker
and Maybe did some underwater training at some point. I'm sure that would be a Mandalorian. She appears to be breathing, so I think she's definitely fine. Yeah, yeah she's good. My favourite musical cue is the reveal of The Mythosaur. It's so drama. It's very pulpy. Yes. It's spectacular. It reminded me of like Flash Gordon and that kind of yeah yeah sci-fi drama.
00:55:24
Speaker
Great. So good. What an episode. What an episode.
Episode Reflections and Mythosaur Excitement
00:55:29
Speaker
Some of my favourite stuff, like Pelly and Mythosaur. I'm happy. I wrote Mythosaur, probably spelt wrong, in capital letters. And then I also wrote, I have so many questions, but I think that's the point. We don't know enough about this yet. Yeah, it's absolutely right. Like, everybody left the episode being like, oh my gosh, I need to rethink everything. Yeah.
00:55:54
Speaker
But then she just doesn't say anything for the next few, does she? No. she She's got some processing to do. Yes, she does. I feel like we learned a lot this episode. I mean, it had all of the things. So much going on. So I can't even remember what comes next. I'm looking forward to seeing it though. Oh my gosh. Oh, this is the five that I binged in one go. So I can't remember what happens in what order. It all blurs into one long Mandalorian film. Yeah. Well, I'm looking forward to finding out next week.
00:56:26
Speaker
Don't forget, if you're enjoying the podcast, come and give us a little five-star review on Spotify or Apple. You can leave comments on Spotify episodes. yeah Thank you to the two people who reviewed us on Apple or given us little five stars. That's very kind. You know who you are. You do. We don't. Unless you leave a little typed review, then we know you are. Yeah, yeah. In the meantime, you can find us on Facebook, on Instagram, on blue Sky and YouTube. I might share some of my Kinder Surprise journeys on um yeah Instagram.
00:57:04
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Yes, do This is the content that we need. If you'd like to see how many Kinder Surprises I can eat in 10 days. Yeah. as measured by little star wars figures but yeah we'll be back same same place whatever podcast app you like listening come and find us yeah and yeah until then bye