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Season Two Recap
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Joe and Mark reflect on the Re-Creative journey so far, after two complete seasons, and over forty episodes.
For more information, check out the show notes for this episode.
Re-Creative is produced by Donovan Street Press Inc. in association with MonkeyJoy Press.
Contact us at joemahoney@donovanstreetpress.com
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Transcript
Mark's Guitar Journey
00:00:09
Speaker
Hello, Mark. Hello, Joe. How are we doing today? I am doing well. I'm still flush on my performance of Friday night playing guitar for hours and hours and hours and singing. It's fun. Yeah. So you play guitar. Do you play guitar well? Actually, I'll be honest. This is the first time I've played in eight months or so. So I was quite worried about it because I know that all of my friends have been practicing. So I was like, okay, let's see what happens. But I used to be in a band.
00:00:37
Speaker
And I was never a great guitar player. I always did it just to accompany myself as a singer, but I still have all the little tricks. And I was amazed at four in the morning with a bit of whiskey in me. I still managed to remember the lyrics to everything that I tried to play. So, or not everything, but most things.
Favorite Songs and Versions
00:00:54
Speaker
So yeah, I still got it. What's your best song? My favorite song to play is fairy tale in New York.
00:01:01
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a pogues. It's a, it's, but I do the Christie Moore version. So Irish folk singer. Yeah. Cause it's a one person version. So it makes sense.
00:01:12
Speaker
Yeah. And you're going to regale us with that right now? No, I will not be doing that right now. Okay. I definitely don't have the equipment to record that sound here. Oh,
Season Two Recap and Reflections
00:01:22
Speaker
okay. You know what? And that's not what we're here for now anyway. We hear this is a recap of season two and possibly season one, because we didn't do a recap of season one. I'm thinking that should be like a traditional thing, like an end of season recap. Yeah, it's a debrief, if you will.
00:01:39
Speaker
Recap slash debrief. Debriefing, yes. I will, yes. Okay. So are you going to ask the first question or should I?
00:01:49
Speaker
Oh, wow. Yeah. Because traditionally, okay, throughout the entire season- You ask the questions because don't worry, it's me asking the questions. Exactly. That's exactly what I was going to say. My questions may not be as good as yours because I'm not accustomed to them, nor have I thought of a first question. But my question now would be, so here we are. We are wrapping up season two. We've done over 40 episodes. Did you ever think we'd get this far?
00:02:13
Speaker
I thought we would. I think we're both pretty diligent guys and I knew we had the skills to do it. So I did think we'd get here, but I wasn't sure that we want to get here. I thought we might, you know, get into it and go, Oh, maybe this isn't our thing after all. But, but, uh, so I didn't have any confidence. We couldn't. It was like, would we? That was my question. Wow. And, uh, okay. So we have. And so what do you think about that? Like it's been so much fun.
00:02:39
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that I really look for it. Probably the listeners don't know this, but we normally record on a specific night, a specific time, and we try to schedule our guests so
Podcasting Joys and Challenges
00:02:48
Speaker
that they can do that. And occasionally we have to move it. But I look forward to that night. I look forward to it. I'm like, oh, right, I get to the podcast thing. So that's been something that wasn't in my life, and now it is. And I don't want to give it up now. It's fun. I get to talk to really interesting people about the thing that excites them.
00:03:06
Speaker
Let's and I feel the same way. Yeah, I did not know going into it like you, you know how much I would enjoy it and.
00:03:15
Speaker
And I really enjoy, because now I'm retired from the CBC. So that's made it easier for me to do this, but it's also given me something in my life to replace what is missing. You know, I do miss like the whole gang at the CBC and whatnot. So yeah. And we talked to so many amazing peoples, many of whom I've never met before. So yeah, that's really cool. Yeah. I've been actually really enjoying just meeting people too. Like that's been kind of cool that we've got people
00:03:43
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now approaching us and saying, hey, would you be interested or we're having previous guests suggest new guests? And that's kind of cool. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes that's worked out really well. Yeah. Yeah. We're like, uh, okay, who's this chucklehead we're talking to? Oh, actually they're, actually they're super cool and nerdy and dislike us.
00:04:02
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Yeah, and to be clear, there has not been a single chucklehead. Except for the two on the mic right now. Exactly, yeah. And yeah, I guess we can't ask about favorite guests or anything like that because that would be like favoritism and then people would be like, wait a minute, what? I'm not the favorite guest? Well, that would also be like seeing your favorite child too.
00:04:24
Speaker
Can you do that? I mean, I'm not, I'm, I'm not a parent, so I can't do that. I can't do that with my cats even. I don't even have a favorite. Yeah, exactly. They've got their own qualities. Everyone's their own thing.
Looking Ahead to Season Three
00:04:37
Speaker
So, um, dream guests, let me ask about dream guests. So, cause okay. First of all, I guess we should make it clear. So we're wrapping up season two. We fully intend to go with the season three. We're not entirely sure when season three is going to resume. It could be like a month from now. It could be,
00:04:53
Speaker
We want to take a little bit of a break. We want to get a little bit of a backlog of recordings and then we'll come back with season three. But in season three, who are the, who are the dream guests, Mark, that you want to get? If you could get anyone. All right. You want me to out myself.
00:05:11
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Yeah. I want Tom Hanks, man. Tom Hanks. I heard him on Q, yeah, I was pretty sure it was Q, talking to Tom Power, and he told this great story. Is it Tom Power or Tom Powers? I don't know. I worked on the show for a while. Anyway, it was a great interview, and Tom is a fabulous interviewer, but I don't think you even have to be a fabulous interviewer with Tom Hanks. He's just such a great raconteur and storyteller, and he told a couple of stories, and I'm like,
00:05:39
Speaker
Oh, I would love to have a chat with that guy. He's just so much fun. And the way that I would pitch him is I would say, you know what? We can't promise you much, but we can promise you a great hang.
00:05:52
Speaker
Yeah. Oh yeah. That might be enough. I hope for him. Like it'd take you 45 minutes. You're going to have a good hang. It'll be fun. You'll, you know, you'll have a laugh. You can talk about typewriters. You can talk about typewriters and we will be there for that conversation. I will certainly because I've had a story published in the, in the Saturday evening post about typewriters. Oh, I didn't know that. It's actually the saddest story I ever wrote.
00:06:16
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It's called empty space times two. I feel like weeping right now and just hearing the title. Yeah. It's like Orson Well said, you know, with the title like that, you don't need a story. Just release the title. So, yeah, I'm I'm there for a full on 45 minute conversation about typewriters. I will not be able to bring the expertise in terms of specific models and makes and stuff. But I'd be happy to have the conversation. Well, how about you?
00:06:43
Speaker
Well, first of all, let me just say Tom Hanks, if you're listening, you know, drop us a line. Or if someone who knows Tom Hanks is listening, yeah, let them know. We can promise a good hang. Yeah. Um, me. Wow. Who would be my dream guest? The name that keeps popping into my head is Steven Spielberg. Oh, he'd be great too. Yeah. Now I heard Tom Hanks on The Great Creators and he was, he was terrific. That was, you know, I like, I enjoy that podcast.
00:07:13
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And I heard Steven Spielberg on our arch nemesis podcast. Smartless. Smartless. Wait a minute. They're not my arch nemesis. I enjoy that podcast immensely. Oh, I like it. Yeah. It's like a love hate thing. Did you, did you hear we'll learn out of the news the other day? No. Oh my God is hilarious. I think Michael Buble was presenting at some hockey thing. I don't know. I wasn't paying attention to the hockey part of it.
00:07:39
Speaker
And I guess he made some mistakes on the ice and he tried to make a joke about it later on about having taken some mushrooms before. And then Willardette suddenly was in the story because I guess he was there and he basically made a joke about it. And I was like, okay, that's good. Willardette can really make a joke about anything.
00:07:58
Speaker
He is funny. Yes. He is. Yes. He is funny. I would, you know what? I would accept him in this podcast as well. All right there. Well, here's your invitation if you need one. Yeah. Yeah. And so any final thoughts on the previous two seasons? Well, this might take us down a rabbit hole and maybe it's a whole podcast unto itself, but the one thing that I will observe
Time Travel and Human Nature
00:08:23
Speaker
In these conversations, I am amazed at how often the subject of time travel comes up. It's almost every single podcast. Now, for granted, we've talked to a lot of science fiction writers, and so it's going to skew towards time travel eventually because it's a metaphor that's pretty hard to avoid as a science fiction person. But even the non-science fiction people mention it, it's amazing to me.
00:08:49
Speaker
So I don't know what that means. Well, actually I've been writing something about it, actually. I think it's because if you consider for a second, humans are time travelers. We're really the only species that is.
00:09:04
Speaker
or that has the capability of being a time travel, because, you know, we, we think about the future. We plan for the future. We relive the past and the secret, of course, is the secret to a happy life. I think is that Buddhist idea of trying to live in the moment as much as possible, but that's very fleeting and very hard to do. I mean, I've been meditating now for, for a long time, more than 20 years. And yeah, when I'm meditating.
00:09:30
Speaker
Like I'm almost never in the moment. My, my thoughts are always either in the past or the future, mostly the future. That's the way I tend to, to gravitate towards, but, uh, yeah, so staying in the moment is very difficult. So we do actually spend a lot of our time traveling in time. So I think that's why I think it's just, I think it's just the way that humans are wired. We think about the past and we think about the future and we live in those times probably more than we should.
00:09:58
Speaker
Now, here's an interesting thought around that. In the past, people did not really think in terms of time travel. It did not occur to them that what if there was some machine or device that could take us back or forward in time? They were stuck firmly in their own time and their imaginations didn't let them go there until H.G. Wells came along. That's true. So the metaphor
00:10:25
Speaker
strengthens the instinct, but I mean, certainly Marcus Aurelius and his meditations talks about this issue about, you know, don't, you don't want to spend too much time worrying about the future. Cause you can't apart from like what you can control and you know, you can't live in the past. You have to try to live in the moment with what you've got. So I love the way that a Canadian astronaut, Chris Hadfield put it. Don't be too in love with your past self. Yes.
00:10:53
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And coming from someone who was a fighter pilot and an astronaut, I imagine that temptation to look back and go, wait a minute, I used to be a fighter pilot. And holy cow, after that I was an astronaut. And now I'm just some guy, some schmuck like Joe and Mark writing books. Next I'll be doing a podcast.
00:11:17
Speaker
Oh my God. Yeah, that's right. One step then to cable TV. So yeah, that's true. But I think it's, I don't think you can spend too much time worrying about past versions of yourself, what you do. But I do think there's some validity to being the friend of the future version of yourself.
00:11:38
Speaker
So trying to think about and be compassionate to that person. It's like every decision you make today has an impact on that person. Do you want them to be cursing you later? You want to be nice to them. You want to make things easier for them if you possibly can. So when I'm eating that bowl of ice cream, chocolate chips and a little bit of maple syrup, I am not being a friend to my future self who's at the dojo doing setups.
00:12:07
Speaker
Just try to work off the, yeah. Possibly, yes, possibly. At a certain point though, the now, I mean, it is about the now though, like that's where we do live. So you've got to balance that with your future, your future self and being nice to your future self.
Engagement and Feedback from Listeners
00:12:26
Speaker
That's my idea. Yeah. Yeah. And then it comes, yeah, everything in moderation. You can have a bit of ice cream. Yeah. Like today, I'm not cursing my past self for Friday night at all.
00:12:36
Speaker
No. And nor should you be. I enjoyed the music and it was fun. And we are going to get you to perform on this podcast one day. I don't think so. Okay. So I guess, so we'll leave it there. So we're looking at returning at some point in time. We will announce it on our website, I guess. Yeah. Probably March or late March, maybe early April, something like that. Yeah.
00:13:02
Speaker
something like that. So stand by. Not next week. No, no. But to everyone who's listened so far and come along with us on this journey, thank you very much. Email us any thoughts you have. Anybody you would like to hear on the podcast? Joe Mahoney at DonovanStreetPress.com. Yeah, who's your dream guest, listener? Yeah, good question to leave off on. Thank you, Mark. Thanks, Joe. This has been so much fun. Thank you. See you soon.
00:14:05
Speaker
Recreative is produced by Mark Raynor and Joe Mahoney. Technical production of music by Joe Mahoney, web designed by Mark Raynor. Show notes in all episodes are available at recreative.ca. That's re-creative.ca. Drop us a line at joemahoney at donovanstreetpress.com. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks for listening.