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Wolves 0 - Forest 3 - Match Reaction
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Chris & James react to the first defeat of the Vitor Era. Was it as bad as the scoreline suggests?
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Introduction and Initial Reactions
00:00:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hey, everyone. Welcome into Daily Wolves. It is me, Chris, and with me today is James. Hey, James.
00:00:15
James
Hey, hey, yeah, just a bit disappointed about the game, but, you know, Forest are a good team, so.
00:00:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, the the sound of resignation because we are recording this straight after tonight's game. I mean, if you're hearing this, we recorded it straight of the game. Wolves, nil, Forest, three. And I kind of came into this with so much optimism, James. I mean, you know, don't get me wrong. I would have taken a draw. That would have been because they're flying. So that would have been.
00:00:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
a decent result.
Lineup and Player Readiness
00:00:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But first things first, i mean before we get into the game itself, what did you make of the lineup? Because obviously there was some changes today, quite a bit enforced it seems. and What did you think when you saw the team sheet?
00:00:58
James
ah I was very sceptical, I'll be honest, when I saw that team sheet, seeing Ike Norrie playing that centre back role, I was really not filled at home. yeah and um yeah I quite like um Rodrigo Gomez on the left, so I ah felt comfortable with him back in on on that left side. but ah Pedro Lima, it was I personally don't think he's ready for Premier, especially in it's such a big game against Forest, when they're flying high, as you said.
00:01:32
James
um And yeah, without CUNY, I mean, everyone knows that's just such a such a big loss. so Yeah, I was skeptical i was very sceptical.
00:01:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah yeah the lineup was scary i think similar to you the thing that worried me most in the back three was uh was eight nori just because he's not got the physical strength or and he likes to get forward so much and i just don't see him as a center back at all but i get that you want someone at least who's got some experience defensively as opposed to just putting a midfielder in there like we've seen too much of the likes of limina and stuff in there and it's not worked so i get trying to just shift someone across that is
Defensive and Attacking Analysis
00:02:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
potentially presumably more positionally aware um lima yeah not quite ready but again i don't mind the rampag and round holes kind of thing of if somato's out technically he's one of the if doc's stay because doc's not there he's got to be in the middle then
00:02:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
then I kind of get it and it, and at least he offers, I think he does offer stuff going forward. Um, maybe left doc a little bit more open than like Samado would, cause obviously they've got quite a good partnership. So I think maybe a little bit oh more susceptible at the back. Cause he was pushing that touch line. Like he was so high up and obviously they had been told to cause both him and Gomez were like pushing really far up the wings at points, but it did leave a lot open at the back.
00:02:56
James
Yeah, I will say um they both playing really high up and now I totally expected that before the game. What I will say is um Lima, I saw a little less tracking back compared to um Rodrigo Gomez.
00:03:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:03:09
James
I'm sure that's just inexperience and fitness because, I mean, he's never started a Premier League game before. But I think that probably killed us on a couple of occasions, especially that second goal. where Daugherty was just left stranded, although definitely was his mistake. I just start so don't know what he was trying to do, that second goal, but I think it just shows a little bit of an experience, but I will say he was but really surprised me. he He seemed really comfortable in that role, even though maybe he was a little out of shape most of the time.
00:03:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, um in terms of the Lima thing, yeah, I think, yeah, he's got a great cross on him. Like he's, I think he's got some positive signs there for the future. And yeah, he did leave doc a little bit open to, but yeah, that second goal, I mean,
00:03:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
we'll We'll get onto them one by one,
Hwang's Performance and Key Moments
00:04:00
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I guess. But yeah, he that there's a big mistake there from Doc. um But the lineup itself, yeah, was those were the two big concerns for me as well. They made a big thing about five changes. But obviously, we knew Andre wasn't going to be there in one form or another. We knew that technically, Strandlas encountered as a change. But he was rested from the start of the last game anyway. So for us, that's not a big deal.
00:04:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
But going forwards, I was actually not too worried. It was all defensively. I was scared. That was that was the main issue.
00:04:30
James
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. But um the forwards with a Huang um going back on the left, i after the Tottenham game, I was yeah actually quite looking forward to seeing him on that left. But he really he really struggled today. I mean, I think everyone really saw that. The ground, it was very frosty towards him. And I did i did feel bad because the the atmosphere was really against him whenever he got the ball. And I think that that obviously didn't help. I i honestly can't remember. it a good move he made in that game. Everything just went wrong for him. And I do ah i do feel for him, but i I think it's clear that he's not kind of good enough in that to start for us at the moment. He he scores goals, but he's really not good in transitions and playing stuff.
00:05:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, you I think we have to give him some credit, like that one chance for Strandlarson, where it was like cleared off
Defensive Errors and Missed Opportunities
00:05:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
the line. That came from the Huang drive and, and shot where he a bit like Newcastle, when he cuts back, like he drives into the box, cuts back, defender goes down and then he e takes the strike.
00:05:30
James
Yeah.
00:05:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
So like, I know that's like one moment and defensively, I think he did do some hard.
00:05:39
James
Yeah. but um Sorry.
00:05:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, go on.
00:05:44
James
I was just going to say, ah ah don't I don't think I've spotted that in the game because I was complete other end and all you could see was a ball flying. level and Yeah, but ah yeah, if he he might have yeah you might have had a couple of moments I didn't spot, but
00:05:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. Okay.
00:06:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. He, um, so the one, there was the first of Strandalarsson's like huge moments where we could have, you know, we we should have got a goal. It was cleared off the line, but it came from Huang. dr He got the ball, uh, in there, like just inside their half, drove up into the box and then say, cut back.
00:06:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's heading towards the touch line, does that kind of quick shift he does where he cuts it back and almost drops the defender on their bum as they slide in. And then it's his strike that goes past the goalie and then Strandlassen tries to toe tap it over the line and it's blocked by the defender.
00:06:35
James
Yeah.
00:06:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
So again, that was one moment defensively. I think he did have some moments where he got back and he's worked hard as he does for the team to try and get in people's way. And he did, he did do some hard work defensively. I'm not, I'm not buying him out completely. Cause yeah, there was a few moments where his passes were astray and there was one moment where he looked like he should have had a great shot and it actually touched his right toe before he struck it with his left boot, which is why it went like off to the ah sky because it was just ah one of those unfortunate moments. But yeah, he, I get, you could hear it and I could tell there was a few moments where it didn't quite work, but I feel like he was, as he does, he was in and out and he had a couple of good moments, but then there was a few moments where people do jump on his back pretty fast.
00:07:16
James
yeah Yeah, it's just inconsistencies with him. Guedes was a bit quiet as well. i'd say ah ah It might have been different on the um the TV for you, but but just i you know he kind I felt he kind of dropped in a bit to kind of fill Kinyu's role maybe.
00:07:35
James
But yeah, he just
00:07:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, perhaps he...
00:07:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
He did seem again, more from, from the coverage, watching, you know, the the image overall, he often seemed particularly that first half, but I think the second half we struggled more and they were, but they were even more willing to sit back and just soak up pressure.
00:07:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
The first half whenever Gedge got the ball, I felt like he was at least driving at people and trying to, trying to get forward and always making runs.
00:08:02
James
Yeah.
00:08:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
But obviously before all of that, the sucker punch was only what, like six or was it
Forest's Strategy and Execution
00:08:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
seventh minute or something, there their first goal. And they, basically that entire game,
00:08:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nuno is done to them what he did for us is make them and be able to just soak up pressure and soak up pressure and then hit hit teams on the counter and it was literally like watching us from three four years ago however long it's been because it it felt like old school wolves i say old school it's only a few years but you know the Nuno era wolves because they literally for large periods of the game didn't have the ball were happy to just sit there deep soak it up and then that opening goal, you just knew it was going to happen and you knew it was going to be Gibbs White, it just had to be.
00:08:47
James
Yeah, as soon as the fans started cheering him on, you were just like, oh, it's just going to happen, isn't it? But yeah, I have like exactly that written down.
00:08:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:08:54
James
and Nuno did exactly what he did under us, just soak up that pressure. And then as soon as they make a mistake, bam, just go for it. ah Yeah, it just seemed like they were two steps ahead the whole time.
00:09:07
James
Like, we played some lovely football that first half, but she said They just soak it up so well. but it's just the It's just great. it It used to be great to watch as a World's fan, but now playing against it, I really, really, really don't like it.
00:09:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Did you think that we could have done more with the first goal? Because it seemed like we backed off and we backed off. Did you, from your position, think that anyone could have you know closed anyone down faster or anyone was out of place? so
00:09:38
James
I would have highlighted Ike Norrie out in that but I mean I'm not putting the whole blame on him because he's not in his normal position and he just seemed like he he was locked in no man's land for a bit he was kind of shimmying left right didn't really know where to be and they played out to Alanga and then I mean it was just easy from there.
00:09:58
James
Um, yeah, apart from that, it was just, it was just a good counter-attacking goal from Forrest. They, they have such quality up front. It's just Lincoln, they went left, right, left, right, bang into the net. But yeah, I would say like Norrie possibly just, he just wasn't, he was first six minutes in, wasn't switched on maybe.
00:10:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe, yeah, I felt likewise that he was kind of in, because Bueno was more central to Gibbs' why, and it was almost a two-on-one, because Eytanori was almost heading in that direction rather than, like you say, going off to the winger. And then so when it came out, he was he had so much space to then just put it back in, and Eytanori, like you say, was kind of caught in no man's land. So ah for me, yeah, potentially that's the difference between having an experienced centre back there and someone who's more of a wing back slash winger.
00:10:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
it just shows that we really do need this new signing and M people to be fit because that those moments were the difference where people were just given so much space on those counters and you knew that, that but you know that's what they're
Podcast Promotions and Coverage
00:11:04
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00:11:05
James
Yeah, yeah it's it's yeah it's really it's really bizarre to watch because you just know it's going to happen, but you can't stop it. It's it's inevitable. And yeah, Nuna has done such a good job with that with that team. um Yeah, it's just the two wingers, Alangrin, Hudson and Doy has got such pace. And as we'll talk about the second goal in a minute, I mean, absolutely did dirty like a kipper.
00:11:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah. Before we get onto the rest of the first half and that um goal, I will just take her a moment to remind everyone that this podcast is part of the Global Sports Podcast Network, the only network bringing you exclusive daily news and views on your Premier League team, the Premier League, women's football and fantasy football, a unique listening experience that puts fans First, bringing you the very latest breaking news from your team. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and make us your first listen, every day.
In-Depth Defensive Critiques
00:12:00
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Global Sports Podcast Network, every club, every day. The main thing for me, James, is that entire first half, the first half finished and all I could think was, and we' ah we're building up to the second goal, but because the period in between, particularly the first and second goal,
00:12:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
I was just thinking, how have we not scored? That it just felt like we should have scored. Their keeper made a couple of decent saves. They had one cleared off the line by a defender. did like Did you get that sense being there? Did it feel like, because from from my perspective watching, I was like, I don't i don't understand how we've not scored.
00:12:36
James
Yeah, so it was the exact, at the ground, it was really, the atmosphere was really starting to pick up, yeah especially towards like the half an hour mark, because Sells made a few cracking saves. He was absolutely brilliant. I mean, I haven't watched much of him this season, but I can tell why they're doing so well with him in goal. He was absolutely brilliant. um Yeah, it was a couple of chances. I can't think off the top of my head, but it was obviously Strant last night, a couple that header,
00:13:03
James
Um, and the one off the line. And then I think, um, Roger, Rodrigo Gomez had a really good effort that was saved as well. And yeah, everyone started really picking up a bit and we're like, Oh, we really have got a good shot here.
00:13:17
James
Um, but that's, I hope that kills you, isn't it? A few minutes later, they came on the transition.
00:13:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah yeah as you say you've kind of reeled off a lot of the big chances as we mentioned already that that one cleared off the line from Larson where but if he puts it anywhere else but but there it's a goal the Rodrigo Gomez chance i mean it was a rocket on on the volley and just keep i mean it's no it's fairly close to the keeper but the pace of it
00:13:23
James
Yeah.
00:13:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
meant I think it still could have beaten a ah few people. And then again, it's a beautiful cross from, I think it was a Gomez cross for the, for the strand last and header that again, it's, he's done the right thing. He's hit it down. Like he's, he's coming at him so fast and he's so close to goal. He's put it down and just tried to direct it towards goal, cause it's got all the pace on the ball.
00:14:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's just close enough to like, he's pretty much just hit the keeper because he's, but then the keeper. I know we talk about, he doesn't, hasn't really had to make the save because it hits him, but positionally he's in the right place. You know, like he's put, he's put his body even before the ball has come in, in the right place in the goal to just for it, for it to hit him. So.
00:14:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah But it was so frustrating to see those those chances go go flying. And then there was another chance for Larsen, I think, where he managed to get the ball and break free ah and got, ah like I say, ah another strike on goal. Larsen could have had a hat trick in that first half.
00:14:45
James
Yeah, he could have.
00:14:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
And there was two, so two great saves and one cleared off the line. And it just, it could have been so, I know gay football and like all sports is a game of ifs and a buts, but it just felt like it any other day that he would have had a hat trick already.
00:14:58
James
Yeah, yeah that's that's why I'm coming out of this game, not really Not really worrying, there's not much of an overreaction because that could have gone two ways, 100%. I mean, if yeah Larson headed the ball more right, it's just so many ifs and buts and um yeah it's just got to hope more stuff goes our way in the next few games because we have got a really tough run, I think.
00:15:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, we have, which is why I hope we get not just this new guy coming in, ah but but maybe a couple more because that second goal that we've been talking about, I mean, doc. I think I almost think like he knows that guy has got the pace to beat him where he is. And so he's put it's because the thing is he he's putting his hand up for the off cycle, but there's no way it's nowhere near. And then he's claiming for it.
00:15:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
And rather than just trying to get the ball and it gets to a certain point where it's like, you know, this guy's going to beat you. You almost need to take the yellow card and just take him down and do something. Cause once he's in the box, he can't, he can't touch him and it's all over. And by then he's passed him anyway. So were you like, again, what did you make of that? But I felt, did you think he should have just taken the card?
00:16:14
James
Yeah, he 100% should have as soon as Hudson and Doyle got past him. But I just don't know what was going through his head. Because he can't have been saying offside because he was coming from behind him.
00:16:26
James
He was coming from behind his left shoulder.
00:16:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:16:29
James
And yeah, as soon as he kind of slowed down a bit, you just knew that he was going to get skinned. And as you said, yeah, definitely should have gone for the foul there.
00:16:40
James
Because Hudson and Doyle would have him 10 out of 10 times. um yeah i just want i I'd just love to know what he was thinking in that situation because he obviously knows himself that he's not going to beat him in a foot race.
00:16:55
James
but
00:16:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah it was an odd one. The ball seemed to bounce just before them and he let it go over him and normally he's quite good in the air so I didn't or anticipating you know those long balls coming in so I didn't quite understand why he didn't either like cut it short or try and get it before it.
00:17:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know, before it's gone over them, because it just seemed to loop over. And by then, and then once he's passed him, that's it, it was game over. And you just knew then it was going to be going to be another goal. And Chris Wood, again, we named the two scorers when Nathan and I did our last episode, we said who was going to score for them. It was going to be Gibbs white and Chris Wood. And and there he is. It's ah one of the easiest finishes I'll probably have all season.
00:17:36
James
Yeah, it it was inevitable. I mean, it's bittersweet because my fantasy team is going to be getting a few points from that. so yeah But um yeah, he just just knew it was going to happen.
00:17:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh don't.
00:17:49
James
I mean, he's he's he he's like Strand Larsen in the way he kind of kind of drops off and takes a ball down and helps out the wider players in the midfield.
00:18:01
James
ah But he's just always he always is in the right spot at the right time. And he was there. he just He just kind of, he wasn't moving at all. He kind of just sat near the penalty, er the six yard spot and waited for the ball to come to him, just put his foot out and it's it's there. It was just, that that was the goal that annoyed me, but it was just too easy, I think. Cause we did, we had two players on him as well and he was still free. It's just frustrating to watch, but.
00:18:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but that, that being right before halftime just felt like such a sucker punch because we'd been on top. It felt like we should be at that point, at least one, one, if not two, one. And it just felt like it took all of the energy out of everything going into halftime. I mean,
00:18:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
I couldn't tell it but you can't always tell on ah from afar on the cameras but it felt like that and I'm presuming it was the same same there it just must have been like must have just taken the wind out of everyone.
00:19:03
James
Yeah, the the energy just kind of came out of the whole stadium after that. it when When we were 1-0 down, we were all kind of going, yeah, we're we're in this, we're really in this, and we've been playing well. As soon as that second goal went in, everyone just kind of went down the shoulder slum, and she's just like, oh, here we go.
Second Half Dynamics and Substitutions
00:19:22
James
And it's just this it's it going to be impossible to come back against that that forest side when you're 2-0 down. And it's clearly seen in the second half as they drop off 11 men behind the ball. It's pretty much impossible to break down.
00:19:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah the second half was but a bit more, I don't say a non-event, we still had some chances, we dominated possession for the most part, but again that's they that's kind of what they set up to do. They shifted from a four to a back five partway through the second half as well as they really started to shut up shop.
00:19:55
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and um And so it again, just classic Nuno and it was really frustrating to see. I did appreciate that. I mean, what did you make of Pereira's subs? Like when they came on and who came on, did you did you make anything of, ah were they positive for you? Did you like, and did you see any improvement or any, any, anything from that?
00:20:19
James
ah It was, it was, it was a, it was a tough one because I don't think many substitutions could have changed anything in that game because of how deep they sat. I think bringing off Tommy Doyle first was probably the one that annoyed me most. I think he was fantastic today. One of our best players. He, he was so good when collecting the ball in the middle, turning and like running with it. So when he came, I can't remember who he came off for. You might have to remind me, um, but yeah, when he,
00:20:48
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I think it was the meaner pretty much.
00:20:49
James
when he came off. i Was it Lamina? Yeah, Lamina wasn't great. He's had a couple of games also. Lamina was a bit rusty coming on. Um, I, I'm going to stick on Huang again, but I just, I wanted him to come off first because he it just wasn't the game for him. And when he didn't, and yeah, I think it wasn't necessarily the subs. It was just, I think the wrong time he made the subs. I think someone should have come off straight away at halftime to really give us that boost of energy, get us an early goal, but yeah.
00:21:26
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yeah i mean obviously again he's limited at the place he probably wanted to do it the most which is in the back line because he had mainly youngsters on the bench we had Mapeu on the bench and even i think al was Alfie pond on there and even a 16 year old uh Oco-Wendu i've got that name completely wrong i think but so yeah it just obviously Rubbings like just emphasizing the fact that we we've with between injuries and
00:21:39
James
Yeah.
00:21:51
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and everything. There isn't a much cover there. It was interesting that Pedro Lima came off in that first wave of subs at like 57 minutes. It was, it was him and Doyle. I think for, um, Lamina and my brain is, oh, it's Bella guard.
00:22:08
James
yeah yeah Yeah.
00:22:09
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Um, Yeah, and then we had Forbes come on later. But again, there was no real shift. Belegard maybe had a little bit more physical strength than Lima did on that right hand side, just in terms of physicality and experience, but it didn't really change much in terms of what was going forward.
00:22:28
James
Yeah, I think Lima had to come off just because of fitness and um first Premier League game. I mean, full 60s got to take the wind out of you, but playing your first game.
00:22:39
James
And yeah, belicica I would actually say Bela God was pretty good when he came on. he um he He did add a bit of, as you said, that physical presence in the middle. I remember him kind of shielding a couple of players off the ball a bit and And yeah, creating so something, but say at the same time, it just, it still didn't really add that much to the game, really. Forest was so compact and so good. It was staying back. It was really impressive to watch. But in that second half, I don't think there was at any point we looked like scoring.
00:23:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I mean, it was like trying to thread a needle, right? Because they had literally two banks of five at points and all sat almost pretty much on the edge of the penalty area. And I mean, it was it was trying to do precision stuff and or whip in a ball and hope that but they're pretty strong in the air anyway.
Physicality and Refereeing Decisions
00:23:35
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And was it just me as well? Or did they seem because they're quite a physical team. And what I noticed, particularly with the likes of people like Belegard and Midfield trying to hold them off and There was a lot of, ah from my perspective anyway, there was a lot of just pulling on people's arms and like holding onto them a little bit longer than, I know everyone does it, but it seemed a lot like they were very manhandly in a, sometimes too much of the ref let quite a lot go. There was one point, for example, Bueno had the ball and like he was gonna break forward and someone literally just pulled his arm and held him back so that he couldn't go anywhere and he had to pass it.
00:24:11
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And they seem innocuous, but if they added up like through the game, every time there was a chance that something could flow, people would just kind of held that bit longer. I don't know if I'm just seeing things, but did you get any of that?
00:24:28
James
ah Yeah, definitely, especially on Strantlarson, I'd say. Yeah, it's the ball kind of gets lofted over the top. Morillo especially, really get both hands on him and keep him where he was. And it just, it's down to opinion, isn't it? Depends on the referee. Some rest would pull that up, some wouldn't. And this one, yeah, wanted to keep play flowing, which normally I'm all for, but watching that I was really, really wanted him to get a foul quickly. but Yeah, I think it's just down to opinion and they they are an aggressive side and obviously Nuno's been telling them to do this, especially 2-0 up, just slows the game down a bit and if we would say we had a bit of possession it would kind of slow us down, get us to regroup a bit and I think that's what they they're aiming to do, yeah.
Podcast Platform Promotion
00:25:22
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Yeah, it just frustrated me. ah Because sometimes I'm like, I get that it, I don't know, there's an element of the game I don't like. And sometimes it's just when it gets a little bit too Yeah, dirty for my, for my gentlemanly conduct. I'm an old fashioned gentleman and I don't like to see it. Um, but before we go into like the latter part of the game and the the third goal, um, I should just take another moment to do the other bit of housekeeping that I need to do, which
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00:26:16
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So, by you know late to be honest, in a lot of parts of the game, all I really wanted was a goal, because i wanted to root I wanted to ruin their growing clean sheet record.
00:26:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
When it got to the point that I didn't think we could win anymore, ah because they're on this run of like, that's six wins now, and I think is it three or four clean sheets? And I just wanted to, I was like, we yeah, it was like i just ah just want to we I felt like we deserved a goal, particularly on that first half,
00:26:35
James
I think other think it's full, yeah.
00:26:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I was just like, I just, I just want us to break the clean sheet. Just give us a goal. Didn't ever feel like it was going to come. And then, and then the typical sucker punch again, a bit like we did to manual mostly. And, and yeah, what was your view of the third goal?
00:27:00
James
Yeah, it's funny because as soon as a one-year um was coming on, I kind of turned to my brother and I was like, he's going to absolutely kill us on the counter-attack. And it happened. I just, yeah ah the writing was already on the wall. He's a big he's big, quick player. And they were obviously going to get one more chance at that game because we had all 11 players in their half. And as soon as, um I think it was ahdson Hudson and Doy, was it on the left, driving with the ball?
00:27:30
James
I might be wrong there, but as soon as that happens, I saw about a thousand people just stood up and was like, I'm not watching it and started walking down. ah Yeah, it's just, it it just, it does annoy me because it kind of, I think there's a big difference between 2-0 and 3-0 and the 3-0 scoreline kind of makes it look like a really poor performance from us, but which I don't think it was.
00:27:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:27:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I agree. I don't think it was. And I feel like, again, I know we've got some hard games coming, but that first half performance particularly, I feel like a like against a bunch of other teams, even without Konya, it showed that we are still dangerous going forward. And on another day, a bunch of those go in, you know, ah because some of them were were unlucky with deflections or people on the line in in the right place or whatever it was. and And another day, yeah like that that whole thing changes. and against So against other teams we've got coming up, I'm still hopeful that there's so much positivity going forward, even without Konyu in the side. I know we didn't score, but we felt dangerous, if you get what I mean. And especially and if we do get this defender in and maybe one or two more, then then there's the potential that some of the mistakes at the back will be
00:28:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
improved so overall there's a positive element but that third goal was really frustrating and before i get your input on it i just want to say what frustrated me though was i know i know that because there's all this speculation right about um i mean because nothing is officially confirmed yet about lamina potentially moving away to saudi arabia when he came on now obviously you can't see this from there but he looked so kind of uninterested like when he was standing on the sideline waiting to come in almost like oh gosh this isn't really what i fancy and then and then that third goal it's him that falls down in the middle which gives all of the space yeah for the for the goal because he's he's tracking back and he's in the middle and he turns i'm i'm not saying he fell over on purpose or anything but it but it was a weird movement because the ball as it comes across behind him because it goes across to the right first
00:29:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
he He turns as if to try and get it but there's physically no way he can and he gets his feet all twisted and falls down. If he just kept running with the with their striker as opposed to like trying to do this weird half twist, he would have stayed upright and would at least have been there to kind of compete for the ball coming in or like positionally try and make it harder for him. But he just kind of like spun and flung himself in this really weird spaghetti motion and his whole And he said he's a bit rusty because of injury, but it just didn't bring it for me in a way that felt like he used to. ah Might be, again, seeing things that aren't there because of all the speculation, but it was frustrating. um did you you You already said that he felt he looked rusty. Did you did you notice the fall for one thing in that goal?
00:30:31
James
Uh, I'll be honest. I don't think I did. I think, I think I was on my way out when they played that pass, but, um, yeah, you you might be right. It might be, um, that he's probably got one foot already out of the door and he's just a bit like, let's just get through the next few weeks and so I can leave.
00:30:49
James
Um, yeah, he just, it was when he came on, I think the first pass he made, he was a bit half-assed and played it to the Nottingham Forest player and it was just.
00:30:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ah.
00:31:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:00
James
We all kind of went, oh, no it just doesn't look just doesn't look like he wants to be there anymore.
00:31:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:31:06
James
And I think you're right. Yeah. I think everyone kind of saw it as well.
00:31:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah it's really frustrating because it's only been what a year or two you know within a couple of years his journey is so like roller coaster coming in helping save us from relegation and all the way up to Club Captain and and now this kind of downfall under the Gary O'Neill era but uh and then and then to be one foot out the door and as I say I might be seeing some things that aren't there but And I know we're two nil down and no one, you know, no one coming on is happy when they're two nil down thinking, I'm probably not going to be able to turn this around, but I don't know. There was just something about it that didn't sit right. And then the way he just kind of got himself all twisted up in that third goal. It just, it just annoyed me. Cause I was like, come on, there was no way you were going to, there was no way you were going to get that. So just keep tracking, just keep tracking the guy that is right in the middle. You know, the guy that is the danger man, just track him, but no.
00:32:07
James
Yeah, it sort of reminded me of, um, Guedes last season with the kind of not bothered attitude and not tracking back and kind of half-arsing everything he does, which just, it's just the worst possible thing you can have in a team that is struggling with relegation. You need players who really want to fight for the badge and maybe he doesn't want to anymore, which is a bit sad because ah he was it' one of the players that you could see really cared and loved the club.
00:32:37
James
but maybe not anymore.
00:32:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously it's all speculation at the moment, but from a lot of it, a lot of fairly well respected sources. So, uh, it might just be a matter of time. However,
Upcoming Matches and Strategies
00:32:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
despite all of that, despite three nil defeat, like you say, the score line, I think isn't, uh, I mean, it's what not in forest have been doing to people or season. It's what they will continue to do most likely. And it's what Nuno does. So, but I think there is some positive elements there. Next up.
00:33:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bristol City away in the Cup. I mean, it's the second-band game for Cunha, so he won't be there, but I don't think it really matters because it's that we're not that fussed about the effort.
00:33:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Normally, I'd be really fussed about the effort, but it's relegation, fight that is priority. Do you think we're going to mainly see, we'll do a proper forecast later in the week, but do you think we'll just see like wholesale changes, kind of lots of youngsters come in?
00:33:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, we haven't got that big a squad.
00:33:37
James
Yeah. Yeah, I think we will. Honestly, I think it's come at the perfect time, though. A pretty bad loss to Nottingham Forest. I think a ah a game against Bristol City Mid Table Championship side might boost a little bit of confidence back into the team. That's if we win, though. And yeah, if we hopefully win. ah yeah ah I do think there'll be changes, though. Maybe um maybe a couple of young centre backs to come in and give give it a whirl. but yeah And attacking wise, I think we'll definitely switch things around. Probably a few youngsters were coming into the team.
00:34:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. And then, uh, obviously the next big massive league game though, is after that is a way to new castle, which is going to be, it's going to be tough Wednesday, 15th of January.
00:34:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, um, yeah. And then it's Chelsea and then it's Arsenal. Like we're in that, we're in that run again, where it is going to be, it's going to be interesting, but you, Hey, you never know.
00:34:41
James
yeah no you don't but
00:34:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
You never know.
Final Thoughts and Positives from the Game
00:34:46
James
it is it is tough
00:34:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right. Any final? Yeah. It is, it is. Any final thoughts, James? Anything from the game that you didn't get to speak about or anything at all you want to share with the what share with the people?
00:35:01
James
I think, I think the overall reaction is don't overreact. I think this is a game against a really, really solid team. They're high flying. They did exactly what they've been doing to everyone else. And we competed for the majority of that game, I believe. So I just, I just think maybe I heard a lot of people on the way home on the radio kind of saying, Oh God, we really need some signings really, yeah which we do, but at the same time, we we didn't we looked comfortable for much of that first half. So I would say don't overreact, just see what happens in the next couple of games. And I think <unk> there's positive signs there.
00:35:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
There is, there is, and and basically, you know, there's a sentence that sums up all of that, James, and it's the sentence I always close with is just remember everyone that out of darkness cometh light.